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Silver Tongue — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:51:15 GMT

What a bad week for this to happen. Obama is on vacation, his cell phone is off, and Russia is beating the snot out of Georgia (Georigia was a 7.5 point underdog btw). If Barack could only give Putin and Co. a call, he could clear this little matter up in 5 or 10 minutes!

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Dennis, Ontario, Canada — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:53:59 GMT

As a Canadian on the sidelines, I can't understand how any American in their right mind would contemplate voting for McCain...

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D.A. Reuter, Bremerton, WA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:54:11 GMT

I am disgusted with Senator McCain's decent into fascism, it is un-American.

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D.A. Reuter, Bremerton, WA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:55:19 GMT

I am disgusted with Senators McCain's and Lieberman's decent into fascism, it is un-American.

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Cindy Lou, TX — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:55:56 GMT

I'm disappointed in Joe Lieberman. It's like he forgot he was ever a Democrat. Other than that, McCain takes the same cry-baby stance whenever Obama hits him back; it's as though McCain thinks he's above criticism. McCain WAS aggressive and belligerent given that the U.S. apparently needs Russia to help suppress Iran's nuclear agenda. Come to think of it, maybe old man McWarmonger doesn't want to suppress Iran's nuclear agenda--he did speak of bomb, bomb Iran, did he not?

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Anderson Fleets, Boston MA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:56:58 GMT

Obama took the "measured" response by issuing the following whine: "Can't we all just get aloooong??" in that nasally tone of his. No Barack, lots of people can't just get along. Sometimes you have to do more then talk, point fingers, and pen op-ed pieces like your good friend Biden does. Sometime you actually have DO something. It's probably hard for you to understand that because you have yet to do anything.

And, I hope you're having a nice vacation Barack.

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JoBama08! — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:57:11 GMT

If this country elects John McCain as President. Then Canada is starting to look "much more attractive". No, i'm no deserter, but I am smart enough to jump off a sinking ship.

John McCain and The Republicans are BAD FOR AMERICA.

Haven't you had enough lying Republicans in charge for a good long while? Like forever!

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tj — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:57:45 GMT

I would be very angry if I were the President right now and you had a Republican candidate was talking like he was running the country. McCain stated yesterday that he knew the Georgian President for 25 years. He is 41. Has McCain known the President of Georgia since he was 16?

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Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:59:07 GMT

McCain's hypocrisy was evident long ago, evidenced by his treatment of his first wife, not to mention the Keating Five mess. It's not unexpected now.

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Zia — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:59:11 GMT

Obama is more in line with the current demands of being a president. Someone who could pick up the phone and talk to Putin and Medvedev instead of getting photographed in China hugging bikini clad volley ball payers. McCain is all talk or all action. The guy knows no diplomacy. We need a president who will restore America's respect in the world, not make it worse by talking down to everyone

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Nashville_fan — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:59:33 GMT

""Empty words about bipartisanship mean nothing just days after the McCain campaign accused Barack Obama of being ‘in sync with Moscow’ and not putting his country first. Senator Obama is focused on what the United States and the international community must do to resolve this crisis, not on the tired political games that have stood in the way of progress.”
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Bravo Team Obama!

The TRUTH hurts, huh John McCain?

Your days of LIES and HYPOCRISY are numbered.

Soon you will reap what you have sown, and it won't be pretty.

Spin that.

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linda in brooklyn — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:59:56 GMT

and msnbc only too happy to propel this disgraceful line of political posturing. but, then, the villagers always seem to think that belligerent and pathetic chest-thumping is somehow a demonstration of good old amurcan 'manhood'.

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Missouri Mom — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:00:16 GMT

Why on earth is Barack Obama pulling for the Russians?

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judy ovilla tx — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:00:59 GMT

Dr Susan Rice is as "smart as a whip" and "uppity" to boot. She will not back down to those ignorant Republican thugs. They are not match for her. She is a "younger","strutting" female version of Bidden. She, unlike Obama, will "kick you" where it "hurts.

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Carol, Long Valley NJ — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:01:07 GMT

Confusing signals, the Republicans claim that Obama has the "most liberal voting" record in the Senate.

Today, The McCain campaign states:
"In the Senate, Barack Obama has voted in lockstep with President George W. Bush nearly half the time"

Which is it? liberal or pragmatic? busted!

Obama 08

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sean, atl, ga — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:01:27 GMT

the bully playing the "victim card"....yea, Mccain...didn't work for *her* either....sad how identicle your campaign is to the Clinton campaign. You can't even learn from their mistakes...what makes us believe you can learn from Bush's?

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DV, CA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:01:31 GMT

So...as I understand it...

Obama - Let's work on a way to resolve this crisis without having is escalate.

McCain and his repubs - We strong, we right, you not! Kill Bomb Grrr.

That about right?

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On Vacation, Don't Bother Me — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:02:12 GMT

And while this is all going on, Barack Obama is negotiating who will roast the pig at tonights luau.

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Michelle Zee — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:02:42 GMT

Tucker Bounds sucked when he was on MSNBC and even more so now. If he was smart he would have kept his job on MSNBC, because like Bounds and the destructive repuke party, this is not their year.

Hellooo, the crisis is not in Georgia, it's in America. What happened to "Country First"?

BTW, we are not in a position to fight with Russia. Why are we sticking our noses in others business.

If you say "Country First" then mean it. Although, the republicans say many things, but they always mean something else.

Jindal needs to know that we are not in a position to tell anyone about democracy when we invaded and are currently occupying a country when they have asked us to leave.

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Nick, Costa Mesa, Ca — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:02:49 GMT

Maybe Georgia shouldhave tried to move across S. Ossetia whihc propted the response from Russia that we all knew would happen.

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Nicholas: Minnesota — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:03:09 GMT

I cannot think of a situation in which Susan Rice has been helpful to the Obama campaign. She does not perform her job well.

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Clara Kansas City, MO — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:03:36 GMT

Jen, MI (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 9:47 AM) Excellent post on modern feminism! I see it in the same light!

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IDTT, Laurel, MD — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:03:58 GMT

It's clear, Sen McCain would rather start a war than lose a political campaign. Just a little straight talk, my friends.

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PAUL — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:04:03 GMT

and while the world's media stares at the conflict in georgia or the distraction of the olympics in china, the "false-flag-attack" on american warships in the straight of hormuz goes into full preparation stage for its scheduled "unveiling" on saturday 8/16/08

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Clara Kansas City, MO — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:04:14 GMT

Sarah, Escanaba MI (Sent Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:08 AM) Your comment at the end is crazy. He has all but given the Clinton’s a “monica”. How much more magnanimous can one get?

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imapoliticaljunkie — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:04:19 GMT

Susan Rice wants us to know that the McCain camp is being aggressive, but what about her affiliations? She's on the board of the Center for New American Security which is a group of aggressive Democrats trying to revive some of Rumsfeld's ideas.

Allen McDuffee wrote an article for the NY Observer on the subject.

http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2008/07/why-are-democra.html

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Clara Kansas City, MO — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:04:59 GMT

PS. Maybe when McCain said, “We are Georgians” yesterday he meant “W” supporters? Did he say this in front of a crowd of like two dozen or so? Just thinking ‘out loud’ here.

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Carol, Long Valley NJ — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:05:03 GMT

Which country is John "I will not question my opponent's patriotism" McCain putting first? Georgia or Isreal or the US?

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John, MI — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:05:59 GMT

I say let them take each other out. No talking, no fighting, just let them deal with their own issues. Imagine what this country would be if we minded our own business once in a while instead of stepping on everyones toes and acting like the ruler of the world. I bet our relations would be better.

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Liz, NY — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:06:43 GMT

New campaign slogan (after the 50 other ones McCain has already tried)

John McCain: Hypocrisy You Can Count On

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Liz, NY — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:07:10 GMT

New campaign slogan (after the 50 other ones McCain has already tried)

John McCain: Hypocrisy You Can Count On

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Yetty — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:07:46 GMT

Stupid republicans. While Americans are suffering bcos of the economy, they are busy fighting to see who has the bigger balls regarding Georgia.

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Bob in Tallahassee — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:07:51 GMT

What do you expect from McCain? His only foreign policy postition is to act like a bully, threaten actions we could not possibly carry through with, and then act towards all who question his narrow minded views that they are unpatriotic at worst, or incompetent at best. This is nothing but the same old crap we have been hearing. Both McCain and all who listen to him and support him have got to grow up. The world is not a playground and the US can not be its bully.

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MI Chick — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:08:23 GMT

[“In the Senate, Barack Obama has voted in lockstep with President George W. Bush nearly half the time, including the Bush-Cheney Energy bill which gave close to 3 billion dollars in new giveaways to Big Oil -- a terrible policy that John McCain opposed. The truth is Barack Obama’s plan is a job killing machine that ignores the struggling economy and raises taxes on family savings, social security and small businesses.”]
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What is this?

"You're like Bush!"
"No, you are!"
"Am not!"
"Are too!"

Sheesh...and one of them belongs to Bush's party and embraced him...repeatedly...and that's the insult he decides to throw at Obama...

McLooney needs his strait jacket.

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Msierra, SF — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:08:45 GMT

The Georgians invaded Ossetia on Aug. 7
Try and keep that in mind
Georgia STARTED military hostilities

The Bush neo-con policy has been to push into ex-Warsaw pact countries and enroll them into NATO
It has tried to place 'Star Wars' missile defense sites in Poland and the Czech Republic

These are both affronts to Russia
Who are these missile defenses aimed at ?
Only Russia has missiles capable of reaching Western Europe

But, the Bush regime has also worked to admit nations that were part of Russia into NATO
The Baltic states and even Georgia

WHY ?
If Georgia has an unstable government, guilty of aggression in Ossetia.....
WHY WOULD YOU WANT THEM IN NATO ?

Do you need Russia's cooperation in the Middle East?
in Non Prol;iferation issues ? In the world economy ?

Why poke at them ?

These are the same geopolitocal 'experts' who told us Iraq had WMDs
These are the same foreign policy 'experts' who lead us into the Iraq War

They MUST be 'experts' they're from Washington !!
They're 'EXPERIENCED' !!

John McCain, Endless War

Notice that John McCain has adopted the Bush 'policies' lick, stock and barrel !!

Americans get the government they want
In the long run, Americans get the government they DESERVE

Obama/Biden '08

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Pete - Albany, NY — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:09:47 GMT

"U.S. knew Georgia trouble was coming, but couldn't stop it"

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/255/story/47631.html

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sally m from pa — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:10:27 GMT

"John McCain shot from the hip -- very aggressive, very belligerent statement, and he may or may not have complicated the situation."

Rice was responding to a clip of McCain overtly siding with Georgia, having told the Georgian President, "I know I speak for every American when I say to him, today, we are all Georgians."

Maybe so.
“Yesterday, I heard Sen. McCain say, ‘We are all Georgians now,’” Saakashvili said on CNN’s American Morning. “Well, very nice, you know, very cheering for us to hear that, but OK, it’s time to pass from this. From words to deeds.”
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/13/georgian-president-to-mccain-move-from-words-to-deeds/

Sounds like the Georgians are expecting something from their fellow American "Georgians". What do you propose, Sen. (or is it President) McCain?

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GAB, Austin, TX — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:11:12 GMT

Amazing. Its a disuputed territory, mostly Russians live in South Ossetia (North Ossetia is wholly in Russian territory. There are Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia (who didn't want to be part of an independent Georgia but remain apart of Russia and North Ossetia)and the Georgian Army went into South Ossetia and attacked the Russian peacekeepers. Doesn't sound like the Georgians are lilly white in this situation. Sounds like Georgia took a calculated risk by doing this while Putin was attending the Olympics. I think McCain would support any nation over Russia because he is an old product of the cold war. Why wouldn't we have a measured response to this situation, like Obama called for. Go back to your corners and lets negotiate a diplomatic settlement. I'm surprised McCain hasn't been talking about nuking Russia...not yet anyway. Thats the problem with many in this country....everything is a knee jerk reaction..with JERK being the operative word. Many of our so called political class are people of extremes, not people who try to calmly balance their views and responses.

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Charlie Tallahassee — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:12:27 GMT

McCain & Co are shooting themselves in the foot on this one. I think most Americans realize, after 7 1/2 years of Bush's misguided lone star approach to foreign policy, that we cannot afford (in lives or money) more of the same with McCain.

It is to our distinct advantage to have the rest of the civilized world on our side when we confront such crises as this. Was it Teddy Roosevelt who said "Speak softly and carry a big stick"? Bush/McCain seem to believe in "Speak loudly and if they don't listen whack 'em with a stick!" No matter the cost.

Obama / Biden or Clark '08

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jbentley,Chicago,IL — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:13:20 GMT

"Right, strong, clear, principled"?!

Gimme a break. John McCain's chief foreign affairs adviser is a highly paid, registered agent of the Georgian government. If that isnt a conflict of interests, I don't know what is. Besides, what does John McCain's sucking up to Georgia have to do with protecting "our country, our security, and our freedom?” What a joke.

For McCain and all of these rightwing yahoos, the only response to any foreign crisis to chest-thump and act as confrontational as possible. Folks, look what it did for us in Iraq and elsewhere.

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bearnut — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:13:24 GMT

The McCain campaign sounds like an elitist foursome on some private golf club, flexing their flabby belly muscles at some international crisis, oblivious to the fact that the threat of U.S. military power is empty, and our tired rhetoric of "spreading democracy." Everyone outside the Republican "country club set" fears McCain and his narcissistic center of the world shoot first mentality.

Obama in a landslide, electorally and electoral college

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RENEA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:13:46 GMT

Mccain has two high priced lobbyist-neo-cons who pushed for the war in IRAQ and as of today are policy advisors for his campaign.Mccain is not standing on firm moral ground when it comes to his response on the Georgian/Russian conflict.

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James D, Hayward, California — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:14:12 GMT

MSNBC- Please please follow up on this and press this issue. McCain's advisor OBVIOUSLY told the Georgian president that the US would support him. That is the only reason he would act in such a ridiculous fashion! Please follow the money on this issue and see that it leads right back to McCain. I can't belive this guy had the termerity to call anyone else presumptious!

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Wake Up — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:14:25 GMT

Just shows how soft and inexperienced Obama is. Imagine if the U.S. ever got attacked....Obama would try to sit down and talk with terrorists instead of taking a hard defense. He puts down his own country and his wife has never been proud of this country. Good grief - - can't imagine this youngster trying to run this country.....

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BudInTexas — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:15:08 GMT

The McNasty campaign is now officially bankrupt!

Nov 4, 2208 -
Obama 53% (369 Electoral Votes),
McWar 38%, Barr 7% others 2%

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Sam PHX, AZ — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:15:58 GMT

Give me a break. It is obvious the Mccain is the one that is saber rattling and polical posturing. The news has not covered this very well. They say there is no miliary option but do not say why. The reason is Bush/McCain has our military tied up in Iraq. For those that want military action then you must agree that McCain needs to initiate a Draft a raise taxes for his new wars.

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Alan, NJ — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:16:23 GMT

A pox on both their houses. It's obvious that both sides are politics as usual.

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Brian M De. — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:16:51 GMT

You know I believe that the war on drugs is working. Because someone must have done a roundup and dropped them off to the GOP. These people for McCain are crazy liars.I truly think it's time for the DNC to kick Old Judas Lie-Berman to the curb. To think Obama campaigned for that snake. The Snake Talk Express is really becoming disturbing. I believe that John McBush has sold his soul to the devil. You look at the people he has surrounded hisself with.The very people he cussed at in 2000.

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Suz in KS — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:17:28 GMT

Thank you!!!! I'm so sick of the hypocrisy from the McCain campaign. It all makes me ashamed that I supported him in his 2000 bid for president. But this is either hypocrisy at a high art form or its being a namby pamby whiny baby about being called on the carpet for off the cuff inappropriate response. His campaign this time around has been ANYTHING BUT presidential.

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banko — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:17:35 GMT

John McCain is a War Monger no question about it. He keep saying " I hate wars, I know how to win wars". Folks that says it all.
John McCain's Neverending War in Iraq (2002-present)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOCeQDHUTw8&eurl

John McCain vs. John McCain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:17:42 GMT

Exactly the sort of reasoning Republican Jim Leach, 30 year veteran of the House, fiscal and foreign policy expert used when giving his endorsement to a Democrat for the first time ever. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aH5Jv25YbDRc&refer=home

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Zach, San Jose, CA — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:17:46 GMT

Does it not matter to anyone that Georgia started this with their invasion of south ossetia and their attack on Russian peacekeepers?

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Brian M De. — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:18:11 GMT

John McCain said we can bomb Russia and behome for dinner and start drilling in Siberia when we get done.

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Demosthenes112358 — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:18:46 GMT

McCain "speaking for every American"... that's not presumptuious in the least. Right?

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Nashville_fan — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:18:55 GMT

"McCain and his surrogates haven't exactly been pure. "

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Haven't exactly been pure?

Somebody should catalog all of the cute and benign ways the media has found to say "John McCain is a liar."

Can we get some "straight talk" from the media please?

What you are trying to say is this:

"John McCain and his surrogates have been politicizing the conflict between Georgia and Russia in an attempt to score political points.

John McCain has made several statements that create the illusion that he feels he has already been elected President of the United States. Will voters reject his presumptuousness?"

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LB, Virginia — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:20:52 GMT

I can't wait for the debates. Without his home boys, McCain will sink. I can't wait to see smoke coming out of the old dog's ears--and have him flailing his T-Rex arms about, stomping his feet while cool-as-a-cucumber Barrack just watches. America doesn't need another hot headed cowboy in the White House, we need Mr. Cool in there and it can't be soon enough!

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Matt for Obama, Idaho — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:21:38 GMT

GOP ia Anathema to America.

There is no other possibility.