McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Mark,Seattle — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:27:36 GMT

I know I'm a bit late on this discussion but I would like to comment on the Warren show on Saturday. I find it incredibly disturbing that the so-called religous audience was so unimpressed when Obama answered questions about how to confront conflicts in the world with diplomacy and reason. When McCain answered the same questions with "I will hunt them down to the gates of hell and murder them" the crowd erupted in cheers. I am an athiest but I find that I follow the commandments (the ones that make sense to me) to a tee because frankly human beings should just treat each other that way. What happened to "love thy nieghbor" and "thou shalt not kill"? McCain's belief that abortion is murder is completely contradictory to the fact that he is willing to murder anyone that looks at him the wrong way. And Christians support this ideology?
Another thing I found annoying was msnbc's reaction to the forum. Mitchell and Buchanon immediately proclaimed McCain the victor because Obama's answers were too intelligent and focused on nuance. What kind of world do we live in where a person is weaker for thinking things out in an intelligent way? Obama answers Warren's questions thoughtfully and McCain pretty much looks at the audience and gives his stump speech. I'm not saying that either candidate won or lost. I don't think that was the point of the forum but msnbc sure did and was perfectly happy to proclaim McCain the winner hands down. I found the entire thing disheartening to say the least and have once again lost more respect for the media and the so-called religous right. I think these people might actually want to read there bible before spouting off on whats right and wrong in the world because there reaction to McCain's angry and violent rant towards those in the world community that don't share his ideology are about as far from the teachings of the bible that you can get.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Michael — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:31:15 GMT

"liberties" with his position on the GI Bill? You mean the bill he voted and campaigned against because it was too generous to servicemembers, but now wants to claim credit for?

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Nashville_fan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:33:01 GMT

For a man that has so many town hall meetings, it is amazing that John McCain is so rarely asked a real question. I have a few:

How is John McCain going to pay for his expanded benefits card for Veterans?

How is John McCain going to pay for the Iraq War?

How is John McCain going to reduce the deficit?

Why does the media never ask John McCain for specifics? He is always talking about war and peace - but no SPECIFICS. "More wars" cost money - where is it going to come from?

Am I the only one who thinks that an "isolated" Russia with nuclear weopons is a dangereous thing?

Why do I think that backing Russia into a corner is gonna force them to bomb their way out?

Can John McCain defeat the evil that comes out of his own campaign? If not, then why should we trust him to do it anywhere else?

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Mamba Wamba — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:33:44 GMT

Obama's lies are catching up to him.

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Nj — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:34:04 GMT

Shifting positions???
Obama has always been against the war. So where is the shift??

McLame was for the war, wants to stay there and can only talk about ONE TACTIC that has sort of worked.

And on the Politcs front. McSlime uses his POW stories over and over to garner Sympathy. Too bad he LIES about them,

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Is McCain Now Copying Solzhenitsyn?

By Taegan Goddard | August 17, 2008 8:23 PM | Permalink | Comments (19)
Last week, a speech by Sen. John McCain had phrases that were likely lifted directly from Wikipedia.

Now it seems McCain may have lifted another story last night at megachurch pastor Rick Warren's Faith Forum. According to a very persuasive Daily Kos diary, the anecdote McCain told about a North Vietnamese prison guard making a cross in the dirt as a sign of solidarity -- or as he said, "just two Christians worshiping together" -- is very similar to a story about Alexander Solzhenitsyn and his times in the Soviet Gulags.

"As Solzhenitsyn stared at the Cross drawn in the dirt his entire perspective changed. He knew he was only one man against the all-powerful Soviet empire. Yet he knew there was something greater than the evil he saw in the prison camp, something greater than the Soviet Union. He knew that hope for all people was represented by that simple Cross. Through the power of the Cross, anything was possible."

Steven Waldman notes that McCain's recounting of this story has changed over the years and "has gradually morphed from being about the humanity of the guard to being about the Christian faith of the guard and John McCain."

Andrew Sullivan says that McCain's early accounts of his years as a POW do not even include this story.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Nj — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:35:33 GMT

McSlime

DIDNT SHOW UP FOR GI BILL VOTE.
What a guy

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Citizen of Rome — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:36:16 GMT

"McCain predicted that his opponent would probably try attack him by politicizing this issue and “misrepresenting” his proposals as a form of privatization."

No! Why would anyone do something like that - to you? "Live by the sword, die by the sword" - you "Happy Warrior"?

You've lied non-stop from the beginning, and we all know how you've voted against veterans' benefits. Maybe if we'd all set an air craft carrier on fire and collaborated with the enemy you'd feel more generous to us?

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mad in Madtown — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:36:31 GMT

The Obama campaign responded this way: “All his bluster, distortions and negative attacks notwithstanding, it is hard to understand how Senator McCain can at once proclaim his support for the sovereign government of Iraq, and then stubbornly defy their expressed support for a timeline to remove our combat brigades from their country,” Obama spokesman Bill Burton. “The difference in this race is that John McCain is intent on spending $10 billion a month on an open-ended war, while Barack Obama thinks we should bring this war to a responsible end and invest in our pressing needs here at home.”

Nuff said. It's the economy, McStupid!

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Holden., Pine Grove, Washington — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:37:16 GMT

Obama (mis)thinks that throwing more benefits at the military makes them a better military. Obama views the military as just another group of voters he has to pander to. He has no ideas on how to make the military more effective or efficent. And why would he? He knows nothing about what the military even does. He just knows how to throw more money at a problem that he really doesn't understand.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Diane from Illinos — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:37:47 GMT

McCain has ALSO been a "bit unclear" on his economic policy, his energy policy, and his health care policy. The ONLY policy he hasn't been unclear is his foreign affairs policy...that being, bomb, bomb, bomb. This guy changes his position on the policies depending on who he is speaking to, the time, the temperature....whatever..none of us are real sure WHERE McCain stands on ANY policy as he changes them at a whim. The ONLY policy he's been consistent with is the bomb, bomb, bomb one and this should scare the bejesus out of anyone even considering voting for this ill-tempered, grouchy, creepy old man! Obama '08!

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

GP Chicago — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:38:17 GMT

So how is it that he thinks veterans socialized health care is "top-quality", but a system for every-day americans is wrong?

This is a very conflicted viewpoint. So he believes in socialized health care for a few but not all...kind of like his tax cuts.

Thank you running Mr. Obama...you actually make sense of things.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

GI Jane, Ft. Bliss — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:38:26 GMT

McCain has forgotten more about the military then Obama will ever know about it.

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?? — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:38:30 GMT

Call him a liar before he's even opened his mouth - thanks for the clean campaign, you senile old bag of treason.

Are you fools going to let Rove BS you into ANOTHER stupid choice?

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Scooter — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:38:44 GMT

America won't survive another eight years of Bush.

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iowan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:40:43 GMT

Perhaps the Little Genius should have given a bit more thought to how to pay for the shattered minds and bodies of tens of thousands of young people before he went on his Heroes' Tour of Talk Shows promoting War Against Everyone in 2001-2. For that matter, the Little Penguin can squawk all he wants about the 'success of the surge', but a wiser man would have found a way to have not made it a necessary part of (hopefully) saving our military asses (which, of course, are now unable to track down bin Laden, let alone help the Georgians, who bankroll his campaign staff. Out of touch, poor judgment, paid-for, bad temperament, and no coherent overall plan. At least Reagan had a relatively coherent plan and knew how to choose advisers with some degree of decent judgment.

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Jes S.C. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:41:04 GMT

McCain had no pity for his former wife, as a vet do you think I believe he has good intentions for the veterans or wounded Soldier coming home.

His record in the past on military and veteran issues shows what he's made of shee---it, his record speaks volumes on his stance. That's why many of us have no benefits for our condition. An election gimmick every 4 years.

I'm sorry for the Soldiers and veterans who continue to believe these war mongering lies.

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Nashville_fan — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:41:44 GMT

"On energy, McCain claimed that "For some time now, I have been making the case for a dramatic acceleration of domestic energy production." But he only recently -- June -- reversed positions to move in favor of off-shore drilling. "
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This should be at the TOP of the article - where it can be EASILY found. Seriously.

John McCain is a POW and a LIAR. He has had ethical lapses in EVERY position of responsibility he has EVER had.

Every.

Single.

One.

Military. Marital. Legislative.

Why is John McCain always on the wrong side of the truth?

P.S. Distort his position on the GI Bill? Nothing to distort, he opposed the bill, and then accepted credit for its passage from President Bush. What's to confuse?

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Pat Huntington NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:42:01 GMT

McCain, go ahead and explain your opposition to the expansion of the GI bill! I dare you!

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Pete - Albany, NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:42:29 GMT

“I suppose from my opponent's vantage point, veterans concerns are just one more issue to be spun or worked to advantage,” McCain said. “This would explain why he has also taken liberties with my position on the GI Bill.”

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What "liberties" would those be, Senator McCain? You opposed the new GI Bill and then didn't even have the decency to show up in the Senate to vote on it!

Those aren't "liberties" on your position...those are FACTS!

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Fresh Meat — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:43:04 GMT

As for Iraq, McCain wants to remove our troops from the region once the Iraqis become self sufficent. Obama on the other hand wants to surrender on Day #1 of his administration. And as far as our 'pressing needs at home', Obama obviously has learned no lessons from ignoring terrorism during the '90s. Obama is like an ostrich with his head buried in the sand (or in his case, probably somewhere else) just to ignore the real problems the country faces.

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Kathy, Lexington, Kentucky — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:44:02 GMT

Obama has not taken liberties with McCain's stance on the GI Bill ... McCain did NOT support it and did NOT vote for it. Plain and simple.

Here's WHY troops DO support Obama 6:1 over McCain

7/2008: McCain supports rationing healthcare for vets.

6/11: Republican magazine FORBES reports; "McCain's top economic adviser, Doug Holtz-Eakin, blithely supposes that cuts in defense spending could make up for reducing the corporate tax rate from 35% to 25%" ie., cut defense spending to cover corporate tax cuts.

5/22/2008: McCain voted AGAINST the Webb'sGI Bill. [vote 137]

9/19/2007: McCain voted AGAINST a bill to specify minimum periods of time between deployment of units sent to Iraq. [vote 341]

5/4/2006: McCain voted AGAINST an Amendment that would provide $20 Million to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for health care facilities. [vote 111]

4/26/2006: McCain was one of only 13 Senators to vote AGAINST $430,000,000 for the Department of Veteran Affairs for Medical Services for outpatient care and treatment for veterans. [vote 98]

3/14/2006: McCain voted AGAINST increasing Veterans medical services funding by $1.5 billion in FY 2007 to be paid for by closing corporate tax loopholes. McCain loves tax loopholes for corporations, since he voted for them over veterans' needs. [vote 41]

3/10/2004: McCain voted AGAINST an increase in Veterans' medical care by $1.8 billion. [vote 40]

10/2/2003: McCain voted to TABLE an amendment by Sen.Dodd that called for additional $322,000,000 for safety equipment for United States forces in Iraq. [vote 376]

4/2/2003: McCain voted to TABLE a vote (never passed) to provide more than $1 Billion for National Guard and Reserve Equipment in Iraq related to a shortage of helmets, tents, bullet-proof inserts, and tactical vests. [vote 116]

ya gotta ask, "Why does McCain hate our military so much?"

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mike — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:44:06 GMT

McCain cheated at the forum LOOK please.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/18/us/politics/18mccain.html?ref=us

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C A, Tuscaloosa, AL — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:44:16 GMT

McCain is unclear on everything he talks about unless in front of an audience comprised of Evangelicals. Then he will give short and concise answers tha the knows they want to hear. McCain is one of the biggest political panderers I have ever seen. And even worse McCain is right up front about his pandering and there are people who buy his BS. Unbelievable.

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9999 — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:46:30 GMT

Speaking of veteran's health care. John Mccain recieve's $58,000.00 per year tax free disability military pension. This is 100% disability pension. If the man is 100% disabled how can he be expected to handle the demanding schedule of POTUS. I thought the idea of 100% disability pension was to provide an income for someone who can no longer support himself because he is 100% disabled.

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Drill Me — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:20 GMT

[[ Democrats, including Obama and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, have signaled their own willingness to move to inclusion of drilling provisions in a larger energy bill that calls for a stricter focus on alternative energy. ]]

Anyone believe Obama and Pelosi? Anyone? They'll put so many conditions in the energy bill that could never be met so that not one hole will be drilled. These two have turned into the biggest liars in Washington.

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What_you_Selling — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:30 GMT

Hey did anyone tell Bill Burton the question was on the Russia/Georgia issue, I know all Obama has is that he was against the war before he had a vote but now that he does have a vote he voted for it every time. but that wasn’t the question.

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Linda Montgomery, AL — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:37 GMT

Seriously, isn't it time reporters or Obama surrogates took the McCain about these constant lies, and his too frequent ripping off of Sen. Obama's position.

It was Sen. Obama, and Sen. Clinton, who first suggested the Veterans cards. And it was Sen. Obama, not McCain, who first put nuclear power on the energy table.

And it was Sen. Obama, not McCain, who accurately sized the situation in the lead up to Iraq. Just this weekend, the NYT wrote quite an extensive article highlighting just how anxious and incorrectly certain Sen. McCain was in his analysis of the matter.

Yet repeatedly, and foolishly, Sen. McCain insists (unabatedly) that Sen. Obama should give him personal credit for promoting a troop surge in a war that shouldn't have been promoted at all.

Honestly, is Sen. McCain psychologically sound?

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Man-sized Safe, Portland, Texas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:47:39 GMT

This is great. McThuselah is giving Veterans the same deal he gave his first wife. You get disfigured or maimed, he'll take care of all your medical bills for life, just don't expect him to personally care for you.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927

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R.Merrell — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:48:36 GMT

This sounds like another McSame flip-flop in the making. McSame's voting record speaks for itself. He's a Bush guy. He's supported Bush and voted right down the line with him for years. He voted AGAINST the recent G.I. Bill (ala GW Bush), no matter how he tries to spin it. He's like a fish out of water.

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DV, CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:48:46 GMT

And yet attempt people have made to improve the VA, McCain has been against.

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Mc$5,000,000 — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:49:24 GMT

At that forum over the weekend, McMayday emerged from his "cone of silence" to make the following startling claim: "I know how to find Osama Bin Laden".

Now, why he doesn't fill in his buddy Gen Petraeus so that we can go do it is a mystery to me. Guess we have to wait for him to get elected before he will share his secrets. Political gain first, country second. Gues also that he'd rather win an election than catch a mass murderer.

But then it hit me - of course he knows how to find Bin Laden. He has to in order to get him to do the video that the GOP intends to release right before the election like they did last time.

How to find Bin Laden? Call Karl Rove and ask him for an appointment. Simple as that.

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Marcel,Las Vegas,NV — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:49:53 GMT

What about the New GI Bill? McCain and Bush both didn't support the VETS then. Both of them said that the New Bill would hurt the military and then take credit for its passage. McCain didn't even have the guts to vote on the bill as a matter of fact McCain hasn't voted since April of this year! And now he wants us to belive that he will come back to DC to vote on oil drilling bill. He cheated on his first wife and he cheated during the form this weekend he wasn't in a sound proof room he wasn't even in the building during Obama's questing. McCain lied in church!

Obama/Hagel 08 Real Unity

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DV, CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:50:51 GMT

Some PLEASE explain to me why Georgia bombing South Ossetia and provoking Russia is Russias fault?

Gods I hate the rah rah nationalistic invoke fear BS. This is exactly what McCain was hoping for...fabricate a enemy and wave the flag.

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mark, salem,CT — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:52:02 GMT

McCain did not vote for the bi-partisan GI Bill and said he was against the bill. When it comes to veteran's care he talks the talk but does not walk the walk.

Obama needs to talk about McCain's poor veteran record on the stump.

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formerly of NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:52:49 GMT

What exactly would the "little plastic card" guarantee? An appointment that day, week, month? WIth a doctor of one's choice, or a doctor approved by the VA? Who determines the rates for the visit? Are there co-pays? And finally, if Sen. McCain thinks that a system like this can work for Vets, why can't a national health system work?

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Lee-- Dallas, TX — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:53:46 GMT

Did you hear this from today?

"John McCain told fellow veterans on Monday that his Democratic rival Barack Obama tried to legislate failure in Iraq."

'I'm John McCain and I approve lies, fears, and smears.'-- Lee

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KJ, CR, IA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:55:25 GMT

McCain says:
"I believe the VA should always be there to provide top-quality care for our veterans."
and...
“Our Veterans’ Administration is not equipped to care for the wounded as a result of this long war,”

So tell us, John - how does the VA provide top-quality care when they are not equipped to? You obviously don't even realize when you contradict yourself. Besides, the VA hospital near us hasn't provided quality care to veterans since at least the 1970s, and probably much longer ago than that.

Your lack of support for veterans is deplorable, especially since you've been there yourself. You probably got better medical care while you were a POW than what most of our veterans get here in the U.S. today.

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ujw, ny — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:56:40 GMT

So, just to be clear, the vet takes his plastic card to any provider and he gets the same service for the same price as he might expect at a VA hospital? No upfront co-payment?

Or is it like the airlines charging an extra $100 for a serviceman's 3rd bag? So that while he's fighting an immoral war, he's got to remember to complete an expense report.

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Ron Indiana — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:57:00 GMT

First Read is having a good day, today...reporting the whole story, and commenting on the accuracy of the statements made.
It is my understanding that McCain is not especially liked by many veterans. Certainly he did not vote for the veteran's GI benefits that were given to WWII veterans. McCain wanted veterans to serve another term in Iraq instead of getting the benefits they had earned. The Straight Talk Express should do well with this group...unless McOld is not talking straight...Or busy listening to Obama's answers at Saddleback.

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Christine, Hadley — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:57:26 GMT

The intended use of this card seems to be contradictory. Just what our Vets need...more beauracratic confusion surrounding their entitled benefits and treatment. Way to go McSkippy! Since his record on Veteran's issues is an embarrassment (to be kind) I shouldn't be surprised at this latest bonehead move.

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Mel — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:57:43 GMT

First, the assertion that Obama wants to lose the war in Iraq (the logical end to McCain's ridiculous argument) - it absurd.

Second, wouldn't the fact that Iraq has a functioning, sovereign government that has decided it wants us out on a timeline - mean we won? I mean we have accomplished each one of Bush/McCain's varying justifications for going to war...and finally - they have stood up - so can't we stand down?? The question still remains - What, exactly, does McCain define as a "win"?

Finally, The US may have a stronger voice with our allies and a stronger influence on what is done about what happens with Russia if the Bush administration and the Republicans (including McCain) who supported it hadn't squandered this country's reputation in the world. McCain can posture and swagger around offering his Bushesque platitudes about how we are going to kick Russia out of the G-8...but there are 6 other countries that would have to support that proposal - and we aren't too popular with all of them at the moment.

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Chuck Hagel and Colin Powell — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:58:45 GMT

McCain is not war hero. He is a LOSER and that is why we do not support him.
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Obama: By McCain's standard, $3 million is middle class

Obama, who has notably sharpened his jabs at John McCain since he returned to the campaign trail this week, took aim today at John McCain’s crack during a Saturday forum that $5 million is the line between middle class and rich, my colleague Ken Vogel reports from Albuquerque, N.M.

“Maybe he was joking,” Obama said at the town hall this morning in a library, joking that by McCain’s standards, making $3 million must mean you’re "middle class."

Obama continued that McCain’s skewed idea of wealth "is reflected in his policies.”

Here's the McCain comment to which Obama was referring, which occurred at a forum with Pastor Rick Warren at his Saddleback Church:

WARREN: Everybody talks about, you know, taxing the rich, but not the poor, the middle class. At what point, give me a number, give me a specific number. Where do you move from middle class to rich? […]

MCCAIN: How about $5 million? No, but seriously, I don’t think you can, I don’t think seriously that the point is I’m trying to make, seriously, and I’m sure that comment will be distorted but the point is…that we want to keep people’s taxes low, and increase revenues. … So, it doesn’t matter really what my definition of rich is because I don’t want to raise anybody’s taxes. I really don’t.

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So glad to be voting for Obama — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:00:20 GMT

Mccain would rather lose an election, than lose a war? Really?! Well, good, cause he is gonna lose big time. The Iraqi 'war' is an invasion that ought not to have happened. When will the rest of the people start reframing this illegal invasion of another country by the US for what it truly is? The Bush/Cheney oil plan for personal wealth.

As far as legislating failure, I believe that the Senate has already stated that mccain "did not use good judgment" in his political dealings. Mccain cannot run on the 'judgment' theme.
At the very least, Senator Obama did not cast his vote for an illegal invasion of another country under false pretenses! Another major lack of judgment call for mccain.
After the Saturday night fiasco of deceit by mccain, I honestly don't know how he can even go in front of people and continue his attack of lies.

mccain is a disgrace in my opinion.

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Mister Anderson (The Matrix) — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:00:20 GMT

Isn't the economy the #1 issue?

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Mona, Baltimore, Maryland — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:00:20 GMT

McCain is a warmonger. He loves to see the United States in altercations around the world and he will take us there with out any hesitation if he is elected President. America, don't let Senator McCain fool you.

Senator Obama has peace, intelligence, and caring in his blood. Lord, if we ever needed help, we need it now. Help the citizens of the U.S. elect Barack Obama!

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Bye Bye Nancy — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:00:21 GMT

Just two weeks ago, Nancy Pelosi adjourned congress without holding a vote on drilling, mocked congressional members that supported drilling, mocked Republicans for giving speeches on a dark House floor supporting drilling, and stated that she would never allow additional drilling. Now she says she supports drilling? Doubtful. It's more like she's engaging in a little cya activity. Enjoy holding the gavel Ms. Pelosi, it won't be for too much longer.

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McCain is Bush — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:01:06 GMT

Anybody know who has archival footage of the Anti-American propoganda films John McCain made for the Viet Kong during the Vietnam war?

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Beverly in Chicago — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:01:15 GMT

Amnesiac McCain said “If I may be so bold, there was another president . . .” and then caught his blunder. However, he still hasn’t corrected his presumptuousness; he’s sending his two envoys, the wolf-in-sheep’s clothing, LIE-berman, and one of the gang, Lindsey Graham. McCain’s probable undiagnosed Alzheimer’s has kicked in again. It seems he’s forgotten the President of American is G.W. Bush; and the Secretary of State is Condoleezza Rice and Lindsey Graham is not Defense Secretary. Who’s acting too Presidential now? Or could it be to continue to lead Georgia to believe that he, Rove, Cheney, well paid lobbyist, Randy Scheunemann, and the USA got Georgia’s back?
Does this explain why the fat, slime ball, lethal, killer, Karl Rove (McNut’s strategist) placed himself in contempt of his House Judiciary Committee subpoena because he was in Yalta laying the precursor for his Cold War with Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili? McCain’s slavishness to the Bush/ Cheney/ Rove fear card is undeniable. Instead of checking his tire gauges, McCain should have his head checked out; especially for Alzheimer’s.

Nobody but Obama for 08

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Houston — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:01:40 GMT

Thomas Friedman says Macain has a perfect record: he didn't show up in the Senate for any of the eight votes on veterans' benefits in the past year.

BTW: FirstRead may want to ignore the story about McCain cheating on the "cone of silence" agreement, but it's "got legs" as they say in the journalism biz because the NY Times reported on it. Neocon William Crystal dishonestly revised his column to remove a reference to the "cone of silence" after it had become clear that this was not something made up by Obama's campaign.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/18/bill-kristol-quietly-revi_n_119566.html

If there was an agreement that McCain would not be able to hear the questions Obama had been asked, then he broke his promise. There should be no need for Obama's campaign to prove he listened in on the question.

If a baseball player is caught using a corked bat, he's out of the game even if he didn't hit any balls. But it looks like McCain hit one out of the park by answering the specific question on education about teachers' pay before Warren asked him, but AFTER he'd asked Obama.

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jbentley,Chicago,IL — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:01:49 GMT

McCain claims to be Mister Military guy, yet he had the extremely bad judgment to fall for all of George W.'s phony justifications and fear-mongering for invading Iraq, which turns out to be one of the biggest foreign policy disasters since Vietnam. As for caring for Veterans, McCain was in charge of the Armed Services committee in the Senate and didn't even realize that conditions in Walter Reed were equivalent to what might be found in a prison or a Third World country. Why the press and the Obama campaign doesn't call him out on this is beyond me.

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Arin, Buffalo, NY — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:02:14 GMT

McCain stole the "cross in the sand" story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4bTvhXMO7I

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Nadine, Baltimore, MD — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:02:53 GMT

Senator Barrack and his family will be fine if he does not win this election. How will you family be with a McCain (Bush 3rd term)? This is a question you need to ask.

The choice is yours.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

jeff D Evanston IL. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:03:26 GMT

McCain even added that both candidates want to end the war in Iraq and bring troops home, but only one wants to win it. john mccain the war was won then GWB proclaimed mission accomplished!!!! when i here the president of the united stated proclame mission accomplished to me that mean that the war was won back in 2003. now are you telling me that GWB did not land on that aircraft carries and proclame mission accomplished!! or didn't he. you can't have it both ways!!! also your flip floped on time line for reducing troops, before you were against it, now you for it, again john which is it!!!

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Jes S.C. — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:03:45 GMT

Surge again, a tiring quote from McCains limited vocabulary, well truthfully it did not work. Ask the thousands of returning Soldiers. The greenback did a better job. The root of all evil will change anyones' mind for a while ask McCain with a rich mans' mentality.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Bubba, Corona CA — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:04:30 GMT

That's right McCain, pour more money into the private sector health care system. Make the doctors richer, the local hospitals more crowded and cost the tax payer even more dollars. This is just great, that you said one thing a month ago and now say just the opposite today.

We need to drill, drill and drill some more so the oil companies can sell all that offshore oil to China. Heck, why not give them a free ride ten years from now when they finally get the oil flowing.

Let's also make sure we keep this war going in Iraq, so our friend in Texas, Haliburton keep getting that pay check each month for God knows what they may be doing over there.

You go the Urge to Surge, John. Keep up the good work.

NOT!

OBAMA '08

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

subgruvet, ok — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:05:50 GMT

This vet would never vote for McBlinky. He acts like, but isn't the friend of veterans he would like to portray himself as. His recent arrogant "defeat evil" quote at that sham of a civil forum, when taken in contrast to Sen. Obama's well said humble statement on the same subject shows what a careless man he would be. His military career, much of it could be characterized as just that....careless. Thank goodness he piloted a single seat aircraft.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Gail, TN — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:06:01 GMT

The fact that Sen. McCain stubbornly insists on "winning this war" emphasizes his black and white, good vs. evil worldview. He is neither nuanced nor complex in anything he says for public consumption.

Haven't we had enough of that already?

I really would like to know what war wounds Sen. McCain carries inside, how he has struggled with PTSD, and how being isolated and tortured forty years ago continues to affect him to this day.

McCain's prison camp experience finds its way into every conversation and most answers he gives to questions. We deserve a president who has a wider lens on the world than winning wars and his personal, horrible, mind-altering experience. Johnny-one-note, please do us all a favor and just finish out your career in the Senate. Perhaps you could best help veterans as a legislator.

Obama '08

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Laura — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:06:40 GMT

Great idea...the vets need care outside of the VA system. VA hospitals tend to be far away from where the vet lives and works. I hope this catches on with Congress.

As usual, Senator McCain has the great idea not just empty talk.

Laura, Boston, MA

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Ian — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:06:46 GMT

An "expansion of services"? So McCain wants to create an new entitlement program which, obviously requires increased spending. AND, he never misses an opportunity to put youung Americans (who apparantly are voting for Obama) into harm's way - increasing the need for the entitlement.
So how's he planning on paying for it? Bank of China? Japan? The Saudis?

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Rick, NC — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:07:37 GMT

John Mccain has opposed almost every veterans bill since he has entered congress...of course he is always there to get his share when it is doled out...what an American zero

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

BudInTexas — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:07:40 GMT

This coming from a guy who did not support the new and expanded Veteran's Bill.

This from a guy who lied in a church on national TV (I was trying to listen through the wall - when he was being fed the questions in his car).

This from a guy who was part of the crew that left our beloved wouded vets in the mess at Walter Reed.

This from the guy who wants to get more GI's killed and wounded, so he can exorcise his demons from his Vietnam failures.

Wow - what chutzpuh!

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

MI Chick — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:07:57 GMT

How can you forgive Obama for his drug use and breaking the law, but you can't forgive McCain for something that happened almost 40 years ago at a time when he'd been under duress for 5-1/2 years? And, since about half the children in this country grow up with divorced parents, does that mean that those children should forever be angry at their parents?
In the end, Pat, it really doesn't matter what you think; it's "above your pay grade." The Lord with his fatherly love forgives.
NObama (Sent Monday, August 18, 2008 10:13 AM)
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Last I checked, "thou shall not do drugs" was not one of the Ten Commandments that you cons think need to be posted everywhere, but "thou shall not commit adultery" is.

Here lies the hypocrisy of religion in general.

This must be above your pay grade as well.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

thats a fact jack — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:08:19 GMT

mccant is willing to wage unnecessary war inorder to win elections while good Americans suffer from high unemployment, housing crises, lack of affordable health care and seeing their kids future thrown away so mccant can have HIS WAR.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

think — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:08:31 GMT

Living in one of those small-midwestern towns Obama dispises, I have to agree with McCain on the ability of veterans to access local health care. Veterans here have to make a 120 mile round-trip to get to the nearest VA facility.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Jason Willis, Orlando, FL — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:08:34 GMT

McCain has one of the worst voting records in regards to Veterans, that is a FACT. Look it up. It's sad that the American people are so blinded by his POW story that they refuse to acknowledge the man doesn't support the troops as much as he claims, OR as much as he should.

Obama supports the troops 10x more than McCain. It's why he gets 3x the donations from troops.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Smick — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:08:41 GMT

McCain sounds like a worn out record.....Action speaks louder than words. Why didn't McCain defend vets when the Webb bill was in Congress??

The many faces of McCain....

Obama/Webb 08

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Houston — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:09:47 GMT

Here's another problem for McCain that most of the media probably won't touch with a 10-foot : It looks like he may have "borrowed" the story about the cross in the dirt from Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's "Gulag Archepelago".

http://religionblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2008/08/john-mccain-and-the-cross-in-t.html

This comes on top of his "misremembering" that it was the Greenbay Packers and not the Pittsburgh Steelers whose names he claimed to have given to his North Vietnamese captors to fool the Vietnamese about who the other pilots were in his squadron. It's hard to believe he could forget a key detail about such an important and dramatic event in his life -- assuming the event ever occurred.

McCain defends vets card, raps Obama

Ralph Malph — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 18:10:44 GMT

McSame and bush have politizied everything they have touched the past 7 years including patriotism, security, economics, justice, torture (its a republican thing now), everything...too funny that he should claim the same of others when he is a big fat same as bush