Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Jen, MI — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:48:48 GMT

As it should be!

Support a woman's right to choose.
OBAMA/BIDEN 08

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Catholic With Questions in IN — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:49:23 GMT

Rebman said he understood Biden to be personally opposed to abortion, but that he “doesn't want to impose” his views on others and often has voted with abortion rights supporters.

Wow, a pro-life politician willing to step outside the box to try to understand other people's views. Maybe he sees that maybe God and Jesus didn't make this a cookie-cutter world with cookie-cutter answers and he may not have the only 'Christian' view and try to beat everyone over the head with it. I think I like this guy. Good job Obama.

Obama-Biden '08

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

JTatEHT, Egg Harbor Twp, NJ — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:50:05 GMT

Let word go forth to every woman, who supported Hilary Clinton, and who also supports a woman’s right to choose, that staying home or voting for McCain works against their own self interests and their own hopes for other women. McCain believes that life begins at conception, that the life of the fetus should be given the same weight as the life of the mother – and if elected, he would appoint new Supreme Court and other justices, who agree with this position.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Ian — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:53:23 GMT

Have you met the average Catholic, Monsignor? They're not exactly proponents of hard-line church orthodoxy. McCain, whose religious beliefs are whatever his handlers tell him they are, can make this a single-issue campaign if he wants but, last I looked, the majority of Americans were pro-choice. Especially the PUMA's!

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Obama / Biden '08 — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:01:37 GMT

Joe Biden is a good and decent man. The Lord will protect and guide him as he walks the path to the Vice-Presidency of the United States of America.

Roe vs Wade is the law of the land in America. The book of Romans states to 'obey the laws of the land"

It became a law under a republican president and has remainded a law under 5 republican presidents that do nothing about it but talk as it remains a law.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Broken Family — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:04:57 GMT

It is not practical to expect Evangelicals to abandon abortion, one of the most passionate issues they have, when they enter the polling booth. Whether we are for, or against abortion, I believe it is a troublesome issue for anyone of good conscience. Not all Gynecologists will perform them. I was shocked to see one who routinely did them on Saturdays in his office, on an HBO documentary desperately advocating women, and girls to prevent unwanted pregnancies in order to avoid having abortions. Toward the end of his life, he had lost his easy, low key personality. He was frightened, even paranoid. He carried a gun to his office out of fear of pro-life zealots who were killing his kind. He died of a heart attack in his fifties. I cannot say I was surprised.

At the age of 21, I was hospitalized with what later became known as toxic shock syndrome. My doctors informed me I needed a hysterectomy. Of course I balked. I was unmarried at the time, but I hoped to be some day, as well as, a mother. My Minister suggested I seek a second opinion. There was a new Obey-Gyney, fresh out of Medical School, that my sister, and many of my friends were touting as wonderful, caring, and competent. I saw him. He disagreed with the other physician’s treatment plan, and prescribed one that would watch me a bit more closely than was usual for other women. He said I would never have children however. Soon after I married. No one was more thrilled than he when miraculously I delivered 3 healthy babies in three years.

Twenty years after my first visit to his office, he decided it was time for the surgery that had been prescribed long before. At the time we did not have Medical Insurance. Our income was low enough that The Department of Welfare issued temporary benefits in my case, but in an amount far reduced from what my Doctor charged for such a procedure. He very kindly accepted whatever Welfare was willing to pay. By the Grace of The Lord, he saved my life, again.

My Doctor, and the Abortionist are one, and the same.

I don’t believe over-turning Roe V. Wade will stop abortions. Women were having them long before they were legal in America. I believe evangelicals are correct, but only partially. I don’t think that abortion should be used as birth control. I do believe that in certain emergencies such as rape, danger to the mother, and suffering of the fetus, etc., rare abortions should remain a legal option. The Lord will judge whether or not I have come to a just decision in forming my opinion.

I also believe an answer to our problem lies in the Scriptures. Even so, evangelicals are not likely to agree, even with the Holy Bible.

It is a fact that there are far more women than men in this world. Far more. It is cruel to consign them to the unfulfilled life that a shortage of ‘husbands’ makes for. Sexual drive, and the desire for family are the creations of The Lord, no less than we. It cannot be denied, and it is not.

In the 1920’s, and 30’s, my unmarried Grandmother gave birth to eight children out of wedlock. The state of New York took them away, separated them, and placed them in orphanages in several different states. They were placed in foster homes after a while. There was sexual, and other abuses visited upon the children. Most of them were reunited in adulthood, but one brother was lost to the family forever. My Grandmother died having a back alley abortion. I don’t blame her. Our so-called system of monogamy is at fault.

We think of ourselves as monogamists in America, and Europe, but is that the truth? Many eschew, even despise polygamy, as subscribed in the Scriptures. Abraham, and Jacob, etc., had multiple wives. The Lord commands that up to 4 wives is lawful when the husband marries women, provides them with their own home, (as in a separate lodging), as well as, their every need. They must be treated equally in every way, and with kindness. If a husband fears he cannot provide for, and treat his wives equally, he is commanded to marry only one. How I wish my Grandmother had had the option to be a wife, albeit a co-wife. The Lord had a plan for her, and the many women in this world who outnumber men, but men of western society don’t want to accept responsibility for the polygamy that they practice as designed by the Satan. That’s right. Polygamy is practiced in the west. But it is practiced in such a way that pleases the devil; outside the sanctity, and accepted responsibility of marriage. The latest case in point is John Edwards.

I know that this comment is shocking. It is not made to make people uncomfortable. It is just that our system does not work. It is man’s system. It is women who are left holding the bag when men are finished chasing their irresponsible pleasures.

In Germany after WWII, and the loss of so many of their men, a secular, (non-religious), group of German women petitioned the courts to allow that women be able to share husbands.

What is society to do with the overflow of women? Imagine the good we could do in opening the way for these women to be respected wives, and mothers.

Submitted for your consideration as to the issue of abortion, and the eroding circumstances our thinking has brought us to.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Jackie Bowen Atchison Ks — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:10:52 GMT

I beleive Jesus said do this in rememance of me when taking communion. I do not recall Jesus saying you must beleive this or that way or just what you must believe only to receive communion in memory of him.I think any one can do this in any church if they are doing it for that reason

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Matty, Chicago, I — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:25:22 GMT

Sometimes he serves as an USHER! I love it! How can you not love Joe Biden? I can't wait for the stories about him bagging groceries, giving old ladies piggy-back rides and growing plants in pediatric rehab wards to increase oxygen levels. You my boy Joe!

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Voter — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:26:18 GMT

Touching.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Churchgoer in California — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:44:52 GMT

Dang! Can't even go to church in peace.

Literalaly speaking, for Christ's sake, leave the man alone

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Jim Thompson, Grants Pass, Oregon — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:50:38 GMT

No doubt here as to which left side the author and the Senator are on. Complete with the "he is against abortion personally but doesn't want to impose his views on others" cop out. You believe in something or you don't. He won't get communion in our church.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Beverly in Chicago — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 18:51:58 GMT

century.
Acceptance is apathy!
Nobody but Obama
Obama/ Biden 08/12

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Rodney Hopper, Waxahachie, TX — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:06:41 GMT

I think Biden has the right idea. You can be personally against something and at the same time not push your views onto others.

There's a difference between taking a stand and zealousness. I think Biden fits just right between them.

This is shaping up to be a great ticket.

http://www.rodneyhopper.com

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

Doreen Augusta Maine — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:07:05 GMT

Welcome aboard, Senator Biden and all your voters.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

JW Mathews, Manchester, VT — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:13:59 GMT

The Monsignor is a good speaker with carefully crafted sermons. Joe Biden's faith is strong, but he does not wear it on his sleeve like far too many others. I had the great pleasure of going to Mass at St. Joseph's a month ago, but didn't see the Bidens.

I'm sure Joe, Jill and the rest of the family don't want to cause an uproar. Everywhere you go in Greenvile, you hear nice things about the family and this area's pretty Republican and this voter thinks that's pretty good.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

sotiredofignorance — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:22:39 GMT

Donna and all Hillary supporters:

I cannot fathom how intelligent people can support Senator Clinton after the incompetent campaign that she led. Her inability to make tough decisions regarding her campaign, her inability to spend the amount of money she had wisely, her inability to take responsibility for her own incompetence shows her unsuitability to be POTUS.

There will be other women candidates for President, better candidates than Clinton was. Like my daughter.

I am a 56 year old mom of four, who started out supporting Clinton, but quickly became disenchanted with her campaign.

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

philip gregorich — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:29:51 GMT

Many babies have incredibly survived the brutality of abortion and lived outside the womb. Obama wants the medical profession to allow the murder to be completed by not doing anything. In the famous case which was argued before then illinois state sen. obama, he tabled a vote to protect the most innocent of lives after the baby survived. vote for obama and be proud that you're supporting a vote for death

Abortion politics: Biden never refused communion

nuanced — Sun, 24 Aug 2008 19:35:33 GMT

Will some reporter check with the Bush & McCain pastors to see if they are considering refusing service to them because of their support for the death penalty, torture and war? Try to be fair and balanced?