I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

donna — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:29:08 GMT

McCain, like a raging badger, walked right into this one.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

FL — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:30:27 GMT

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/vp-debate-open-palin-biden/727421/

Tina Fey nails Palin to a T.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Steven in NJ — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:31:43 GMT

Here's a hint for the republicans: "It's the ECONOMY STUPID!" The issues need to be addressed by both sides, so cut the crap already, this is serious business. We don't need the G W Bush strategy for this election now.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Libratine — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:33:39 GMT

Like Chuck Todd said on MTP (paraphrasing here) the McCain campaign utilizes these little tactics but has no overall strategy.

Ho hum. Can't wait for Tuesday's debate and to receive my absentee ballot so I can vote Obama/Biden!!!!!!! Be sure and deposit them in a PUBLIC RECEPTACLE - not left in your mailbox where party affiliation could be known or assumed.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

clh MISSOURI — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:33:45 GMT

DO YOUR RESEARCH MCCAIN WAS CLEARED REGARDING KEATING ISSUES! OBAMA CAN'T DENY ANY OF HIS TIES TO FAR LEFT EXTREMISTS FRIENDS, BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND PREACHERS!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Anyone but obama — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:33:52 GMT

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Arlene — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:34:13 GMT

"My gut is someday they're going to find some clip that they think will be relevant" that "could scare some people" at the margins," the Obama aide said.

Is there such a clip? Why would the aide elude to this?

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Biased — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:34:45 GMT

So they are equating someone who might or might not have had some bad business deals to someone who blew up police stations and the pentigon, is that it.....

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Look! The unharmed Admiral's boy being transferred off with the wounded! — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:34:52 GMT

Hey "War Hero" - you ever think about the 130 sailors you killed on the USS Forrestal with your crappy cowboy judgement?

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

pat huntington ny — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:35:15 GMT

And therefore, Palin's husband's association with a group advocating Alaska secession, is fair game as well!

And therefore, Cindy McCain's prior drug problems is fair game!

And therefore, McCain's drippy depends are fair game!

And now begins, the silly season of politics!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

MBC Durham NH — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:35:15 GMT

McCain was the closest and most influential of the Keating 5 to Chas. Keating. He had the longest relationship. McCain helped ruin lives - period. McCain is a scum bag. He was a POW because he was a sorry pilot. He crashed 5 jets. Pilots that don't have admirals for daddy's don't get that many. His moral behavior in his first marriage is the icing on the cake.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Thomas — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:36:28 GMT

Keating will be an issue in the debate, Michelle. Don't worry.

Obama brought it up on the web so that he will be able to take questions about it tomorrow night, without spending so much money on ads. Perhaps?

Anyway, hold on to you hats!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Publisher, Tipton, IN — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:36:50 GMT

The first sign of a desperate campaign is a frantic attempt to move away from issues and go exclusively personal. Please visit my website to read more about McCain's gutter politics - as well as Obama's historic ground game:

http://democratictribune.com

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Clara Kansas City, MO — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:37:34 GMT

A conservative friend of mine stumbled onto the Obama channel on Dish this weekend. She stuck around for about 15 minutes watching ads and part of his convention video. Very interesting TACTIC.

As for the McCain Campaign. Are you telling me he showed bad judgment and then was actually rebuked (censured) for it. Hmmm? You just can't teach an old dog new ethics.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Paul, Boston — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:38:41 GMT

John McCain, if he has to resort to this sort of campaign, when people are worried about their economic future, just shows what he's really all about. It's McCain first; it always has been.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Thomas — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:38:46 GMT

Initially, I did not want to see McCain embarrass himself by losing his temper in front of all of America.

Now I realize it will be for the best if he does. The people need to see for themselves, how dangerously unstable he is.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

jawillie, Philadelphia, PA. — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:38:48 GMT

IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME! After all of the fear and smear attacks the McCain/Palin camp has launched, I can't wait for this to come up and bite them in the a--. While their at it, they (Obama) may want to bring up a little organization that "first dude" once belonged to (and probably still does) called the Alaska Independence Party (who's agenda includes seceeding from America and becoming a province of Canada).

Obama/Biden '08!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

rafael new jersey — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:38:55 GMT

weren't there four democrats as the keating five including the banking
chairman as one of them. let the party begin.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Valerie, St. Louis, MO — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:39:13 GMT

Wow! The McPalin ticket will try anything to win. Do anything, say anything and try anything is not putting country first!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

rafael new jersey — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:39:21 GMT

weren't there four democrats as the keating five including the banking
chairman as one of them. let the party begin.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Obama "on the take" with Fannie Mae — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:39:43 GMT

And, Obama got $125,000 from Fannie Mae! chris Dodd got even more than that. The Dems are so dirty in this whole housing deal. When will people wake up and smell the coffee. Obama ia a crooked, sleazy Chicago politician

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

gepa — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:40:00 GMT

Well on the View this morning they did just was what Mccain was hoing for. The talked about Mccain's Pit Bull Palin "a.k.a sarak palin" trying to smear Obama with the old William Ayers story. 'Wake up people maccain & airhead palin are using lies & smoke & mirrors to throw off the focus on the issues, especially the Economy. the more the talking heads talk about Maccain's smear campaign, the more the focus is off the real ISSUES. that's how desperate mccain is..

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Molly Kansas City — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:40:34 GMT

This is a sad and pathetic last chapter in a man's life, whom many of us believed was an honorable hero.R.I.P. John McCain of Old…

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

just the facts — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:40:48 GMT

all of this is going to be put on the backburner with the market looking like this.

McClown has got to be pissed off at this news

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3683270/

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Sick of the B.S., Tulsa, OK — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:41:24 GMT

Oh please...the Keating 5 scandal relates to how John McCain would handle the economy? I see it as a flimsy and transparent excuse to bring up a past incident that calls McCain's character into question. Go ahead and do it, Obama...just be honest about what you're doing.

P.S. Obama's constant assertions that McCain is trying to "scare people" is, in my opinion, an intentional use of the race card...to me, playing the race card is just as despicable as racism itself. If I don't vote for Obama, it will absolutely NOT be because I am scared or racist. My vote is solely based on who I think will be the most effective leader (and it's a question I am still wrestling with, as I am an undecided voter).

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

TTP — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:42:15 GMT

What about Phil Gramm's advisory position?

I think that is even more relevant... and damaging.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/05/AR2008100501816.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Mia in Miami — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:42:22 GMT

First read crew: Why do regular folks have to mention the topic before you report on it? You guys should have been on this already and it should have been in your "first thoughts" article and on MSNBC's main page. Ok, McCain is behind in the polls and you guys are not helping with som of your bias against Obama.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Todd Blazaitis, Mahomet, IL — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:42:27 GMT

This story, from last night’s “60 Minutes” tells how, MORE THAN THE FAILURE OF THE UNDERLYING MORTGAGES, (which isn’t historically bad 6% now versus 25+% in the Depression), but the bizarre way Wall Street re-packaged them into securities, and MOST IMPORTANTLY, how they backed those securities with “Debt Swaps” that put those selling firms on the hook for trillions, if the loans, and hence the securities, went bad.

And, per the story below from the Wash Post blog, Harold Meyerson put’s John McCain’s buddy, Phil Gramm’s (he of the “American’s are just whining about bad times” quote) fingerprints on the legislation that allowed the Wall Street firms to sell those “Debt Swaps” and NOT put the enormous liabilities on their books.

It’s those hidden “Debt Swap” guarantees, and the leverage behind them, that brought down Wall Stree!!

A Look At Wall Street's Shadow Market
60 Minutes: How Some Arcane Wall Street Financial Instruments Magnified Economic Crisis
Video: Wall Street's Shadow Market
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A Pal Around McCain
By Harold Meyerson
Monday, October 6, 2008; Page A15
"There's no question that we have to change the subject here," a senior Republican operative told The Post's Michael D. Shear in a story published Saturday.
The "subject" in question is the economy and how to fix it. As Americans have taken their eye off the ball -- that is, off John McCain's sterling qualities of character and command -- by focusing on the economy, Barack Obama has surged into the lead nationally and in many key battleground states.
So long as the candidates talk about that pesky economy, McCain's handlers have realized, McCain will continue to swoon. Thus the campaign has announced that it will go on the attack again on the momentous topics of Obama's ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, the onetime Weatherman who has been a University of Illinois education professor for nearly two decades.
Campaigning on Saturday in Colorado, Sarah Palin accused Obama of "palling around with terrorists" by associating with Ayers, citing as her source a New York Times story from that morning. In fact, the story concluded that the Obama-Ayers "relationship" consisted of both men attending the board meetings of two Chicago organizations and that there had been no contact between the men, other than bumping into each other on the sidewalk (they live in the same neighborhood), since Obama went to the U.S. Senate in January 2005.
The story of Obama's interaction with Ayers is drenched in irony, since it is basically a tale of Obama being co-opted into Chicago's civic establishment. In 1995, Obama, then a young lawyer with political ambitions but as yet no office, was recruited to chair the board of a school reform organization funded and established by the Annenberg Foundation -- a group that distributes the wealth of the estate of Walter Annenberg, Richard Nixon's ambassador to Britain. It was only then that Obama met Ayers, who already was a board member and a figure in Chicago's education-policy elite. (Mayor Richard Daley, that known radical, told the Times that he had consulted Ayers on education issues for years.)
Go join your city's establishment, and see what it gets you.
But if the McCain people want to rummage through presidential candidates' associations, real or imagined, to turn up figures who threaten to pull down this proud republic, they should begin in-house. Chief among those to whom responsibility attaches for the financial crisis that is plunging the nation into recession is former Texas senator Phil Gramm, McCain's own economic guru.
Gramm was always Wall Street's man in the Senate. As chairman of the Senate Banking Committee during the Clinton administration, he consistently underfunded the Securities and Exchange Commission and kept it from stopping accounting firms from auditing corporations with which they had conflicts of interest. Gramm's piece de resistance came on Dec. 15, 2000, when he slipped into an omnibus spending bill a provision called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act (CFMA), which prohibited any governmental regulation of credit default swaps, those insurance policies covering losses on securities in the event they went belly up. As the housing bubble ballooned, the face value of those swaps rose to a tidy $62 trillion. And as the housing bubble burst, those swaps became a massive pile of worthless paper, because no government agency had required the banks to set aside money to back them up.
The CFMA also prohibited government regulation of the energy-trading market, which enabled Enron to nearly bankrupt the state of California before bankrupting itself.
The problem with this exercise, of course, is that Gramm's relationship to McCain is not comparable to the relationships that Ayers or Wright have with Obama. The idea that either Ayers or Wright would have any impact on the workings of an Obama administration is nonsensical. But Gramm and McCain do have an enduring political and economic alliance. McCain chaired Gramm's short-lived presidential campaign in 1996; Gramm is co-chair of McCain's current effort. McCain has not repudiated reports that Gramm is on the shortlist to become Treasury secretary if McCain is elected, even after Gramm labeled America "a nation of whiners."
If we are to believe his managers, McCain will charge into tomorrow night's debate seeking to "change the subject" from the economy to Obama's dangerous liaisons. It's not, however, likely to be a winning tactic. Obama will argue that in a time of deepening economic crisis, the public deserves a debate in which the candidates focus on their ideas for recovery rather than tendentious attacks on their rival's presumed associates. If pressed, though, he can mention that it is McCain's senior economic adviser who has diminished American solvency and power beyond the wildest dreams of anti-American terrorists.
meyersonh@washpost.com
Read more from Harold Meyerson on washingtonpost.com's new opinion blog, PostPartisan.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Axel, Philadelphia, PA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:42:34 GMT

The dow is crashing yet again, Republican trickle down economics with lax oversight and tax breaks for the rich and big oil has failed us. Their failed philosophy has gutted the financial well being of millions of Americans.

Its accountability day this election year. Time to hold them accountable for their disasterous policies and short sighted pandering to the rich and corporate lobbyists.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

GA GUY — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:42:44 GMT

Palin and the RNC think this thing is "getting traction"...what she and the RNC don't realize is that it this resulting in a "net negative" for the McCain / Palin Campaign!

Let's have her husband on camera clearly denouncing his ties to the secessionist party up there in Alaska, and then let's have Sarah Palin herself on camera clearly denouncing the abuse of excutive power!!

And while we are at it, let's have McCain please explain his role in the Keating Five debacle, while clearly denouncing influence peddling, and lobbying regulatory agencies for "personal friends" like Keating...

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Stella, Tucson — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:43:12 GMT

They really don't want to go there; can't believe they went there with Ayers.

There are already clips of Palin, in the pews, listening to a preacher "pray away the gay". And there are already clips of Palin - on stage - being saved by the "witchdoctor preacher"!! Nope, they really don't want to go there.

McCain and Palin, and by extension everyone within their campaign, are truly the SCUM of this earth. There is a "special place in hell" for all of them.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

jesse St.Paul Minnesota — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:43:45 GMT

Sarah,,,,Why not talk to someone that dosen't advise your running mate.Bill Kristol is nothing more then a noe=con front man and people think what he says is somehow important.So she has done shows with Kristol,Hannity,and the truth tellers at Fox.Try the Keith Oberman show or Rachal Maddow,or Hardball since thats how you want to play,oh I forgot you only will meet with folks that will feed you softballs,and talk you through all the things you have no clue about.The new Rudy G,a noun, a verb,Where Mavericks,or I'm a hockey mom.OR we shoot wolfs from our airplane.Lots of Moose Caca.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Eight Is Truly Enough — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:43:50 GMT

Poor judgement eh? That is exactly the point. The fact that McCain's judgement was faulty at a critical time in our country's economy when we were once again sold down the river for the greedy and influential speaks volumes about the behavior we've seen coming forth from he and his campaign over the last few weeks and spotlights all the non-maverick incantations Sen. Biden was well versed in pointing out while Aw Shucks Sarah was getting cute and avoiding at last week's debate.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

pc,keewatin,mn — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:43:52 GMT

I'll see your Ayers and raise you KEATING 5 and the Witch Doctor Pastor!!!

Bring it on Caribou Barbie!!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Derek, Parma, Ohio — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:44:30 GMT

I'm so glad Barack Obama isn't John Kerry and will let this stuff slide. Fight back!

My Blog on the subject:
http://drock02.blogspot.com/2008/10/lets-take-another-look-and-calm-down.html

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Eric, Salinas, CA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:44:46 GMT

It's getting ugly out there on the campaign trail. I am so proud of Obama saving up his Barack-tober surprise of the Keating 5 scandal. It works so well with the current Wall Street meltdown. Another Black Monday to start the week off correctly by keeping the voters focused on the economy.

Let's not forget that the real Troopergate investigation reports this Friday. Let's hope the Alaskan Supreme Court denies the repugnant one's attempts to evade justice.

Go Obama/Biden 08/12!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Kyle in NY — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:44:56 GMT

What about the $121,000 that Obama got from Freddie Mac and Frannie Mae to look the other way. Obama and has Acorn associates were the ones who pushed for loans to be given to people who typically couldn't afford them. That is, to people who would most likely default on them. And now at the center of our financial crisis is this problem. The dems allowed for the top execs at FM/FM to earn a percentage of their total loans. I'm a democrat and its a shame that my party is trying to blame this mess on the Bush admin. Bush isn't innocent, but the dems were the ones who created this mess with their regulations on FM/FM. It was Obama's far left liberalism and his friends that got us in this mess.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Shera, Port Chester, NY — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:45:00 GMT

That's right..hit fire with Ice water...At least the Keating 5 deal with the economy...YOU GO OBAMA!

our thoughts and prayers are with you and your family Joe.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

No More Maverickiness! — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:45:22 GMT

HIT HER!!! HIT HER HARD Obama....this is about taking our country back from lobbyists and big corporations....not about her maverickiness, ak.a. bitchiness!!!

I hope she loses her reelection for Governor next time too...then she can go back to being a dumb housewife raising too many brats.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Pete - Albany, NY — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:46:09 GMT

Which issue has greater relevance to the economic struggles of the day?

Obama-Ayers

or

McCain-Keating

When Lincoln Savings & Loan went bankrupt over 21,000 investors lost somewhere around $285 million in savings. It became the poster-child for the last time there was a major financial crisis in this country and John McCain was at the center of it.

Yet John McCain wants to continue with deregulation?

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Debbi2 — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:46:37 GMT

McCain, you want people to vote for you? Then admit selecting Sarah to be your running mate was a COLOSSAL mistake. Integrity was never a word to be used by you in this campaign, neither was humility on your list, you might try to inncorparate both in Tuesday's debate. I might get you a few more votes. On the other hand, it probably won't make a bit of difference!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

mia — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:47:31 GMT

ayers isn't an economic issue - unlike keating 5. obama wasn't involved with ayers as he was 8 yrs old. but mccain was directly involved with keating 5 so this is yet another huge mistake by the mccain campain that obama will capitalize on. mccain is behavior is very disappointing.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

MIvote — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:47:35 GMT

Mccain was exonaorated.Obama hnever accounts for his past associations---only claims he knows nothing.Wondered why he never has any friends with him---they are all crooks.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

dqool1, Illinois — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:47:40 GMT

Economics and Judgement...2 of McCain's glaring weaknesses. People who live in 13 glass houses should not throw stones.
IT'S A WRAP!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Steeler fan Pittsburgh, PA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:47:41 GMT

I wish it hadn't come to this-that the election could have been about the candidates and where they stand on the issues. That said, I'm glad to see the Obama campaign fighting back. It is sad that they can't simply take the high road but we saw what that did to the Kerry campaign 4 years ago.

I'd like to hear from undecided voters-does this really work?

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

sm — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:47:46 GMT

Please, Obama team. Please investigate G.Gordon Liddy and jackass mccain ties. There's bound to be some stuff that would embarrass mcnasty.

Tom Brokaw---- Please ask mcmisogynist if he ever called his wife a truly dispicable name in public, and accusing her of being a 'trollop' (that's the nice part of the quote).

Please remember mctwo-timer was boffing Cindy(and who knows how many other women) while married to Carol who waited for the POS (I meant the 'S', he's soiled the POW standing).

Please don't vote for a diseased, mentally unstable old fart and his screechy-voiced sidekick who threw her family under the bus for her political ambition. She has no business touting family values as she has none.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Jo Anne - in Colonia, N.J. — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:48:25 GMT

This is why "some dead dogs should be left alone".
Sen. Obama was 8-years old during the Ayres controversy. The Keating-5 scandal occured during Sen.
McCain's active political career. Do they really want to go there? and Gov. Palin better start paying attention to "Troopergate" before that ruins her chances of ever running for President against the GOP ticket in the future. The chances of them winning the
White House this time around is fast slipping away -
for which I rejoice!!!!!
Hold on Obama Nation - we are almost there!!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Ken — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:48:47 GMT

Typical Obama camp. Says he will not be like other politicians. Attacks the fact that the other party is running smear campaigns, and then runs a smear campaign himself. And then his supporters think it's okay for him to attack since he's being attacked, but Obama already knew that would happen when he promised not to be that kind of candidate. He is not a typical politician.....he's worse.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Jo Anne - in Colonia, N.J. — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:48:52 GMT

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Sarah....and my last name isn't Palin — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:49:01 GMT

I don't like the jugular, but we are not going to a fight with a knife if they have guns!

29 days to go.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Droppin' Science, Miami, Fl — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:49:27 GMT

The media would have you believe that this is, and will be a close election, but we folks who know better have not a doubt as to what's about to happen in four short weeks...

Oh, yeah... Wasn't this Palin broad suppose to turn this thing around for McCain? I mean, since all the pundits say she did dominate the debate... {WHAT A JOKE!!!}

The Repugnant's have got to be disgusted with John McCain, and that goofy ass decision to select that Pain in The Ass as his running mate...

And as for the Debate, John McCain is about to get what he's been askin' for... A TOWN HALL SETTING :)

...Believe the hype if you want about him being able to dominate this type of venue... What he wanted was to get some practice sessions in with Obama so he'd know what to expect in such a setting. That's why he's been so insistant on having a Town Hall Meeting.
Buddy you only fooled your base with that 'Bush It'.

Well here you go Mc -4.more.years.of.the- Same...
Your Town Hall, with no practice sessions in between.
Take it 'My Friend' and deal with it...

(And please believe that Obama's holding another 'Trump Card')

IS THERE ANYBODY IN McCAIN'S CAMP WHO CAN EVEN ALMOST MATCH THE INTELLECT OF BARACK OBAMA?

Obama as 1 man is smarter and wiser than the collective mind of the entire McCain camp...
These Guy's Are Idiots!

...LET'S PLAY BALL!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Community Organizer — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:50:11 GMT

And one of the Keating Five, John Glenn, is one of Obama's key Ohio surrogates. Great idea to do this, Obama!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Nitti, Joliet — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:50:17 GMT

Obama has much more to fear about his own associations.
Rezko, Valerie Jarrett, Altgeld Gardens, ACORN, Rev Wright, Father Pfleger, Ayers, the CAC $$$ & who it went to, what about his Columbia years, Pritzker, Crown, yada, yada, yada~~~

Barack is "Chicago dirty"!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

jeff D Evanston IL. — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:50:29 GMT

120 billion the payers had to pay last time, 700 billion this time, phill gramm, charles keating, flora, no wonder john want to give more tax breaks, to these rich theives!!! they want more and more, and he is willing to screw the very people who are voting for the goof!!! enough in enough!!!
i have to worry about gas to get to my job that i hope will still be there when this mess is over, and all john knows is tax breaks for those who don't need them. john mccain may your cancer come back!!!! your health ins be canceled because you hit the max, and you have to suffer just like every day people have to!!!! i wouder if you will still call us your friends!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Jason - Indy — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:51:05 GMT

Typical GOP Tactics...

Bash your opponent when you can't compete on the issues facing this nation.

Only another example of why John McCain should be called out on allowing his campain to run this type of attacks...

McCain come out and Sid he would not get to the Highest Office in the Land in this manner then 30 days to go and we see he is nothing more than a typical GOP Whip that does what his party does best...

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Can't Live With Dems - Can Live Without Them — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:51:10 GMT

Sure. Keating. All the congressmen involved with Keating were Democrats, so the Democrats, who ruled the committee investigating the problem, needed a Republican to blame. They dragged McCain into the mess, and he was found to have nothing to do with it. That's Democrats for you. Liars, cheats, and thieves.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Lisa in Florida — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:51:13 GMT

As someone who lived in Arizona during the S&L scandal, I can tell you McCain was "in bed" with Charles Keating...big time. It was Keating who, as a buddy of Cindy's father, propelled McCain into Arizona politics (which, oh, by the way, is as corrupt as D.C. politics). McCain learned corruption at the knee of Charles Keating. It is no surprise to anyone who knows Arizona politics that McCain is extremely politically corrupt. As soon as he became the Repubs nominee, I, and many other Arizonians, knew he was not the "maverick" he claims. That is all a bunch of b.s. And I think it is clear from how his campaign has gone and is going (south)what a liar and political gain-only jerk he is. Picking Palin is proof. Kudos to the Obama campaign for holding out using the Keating 5 until now. Perfection!!! Can't wait to see the 13 minute documentary Obama has produced on McCain and Keating. Something I, as a former Arizona resident, have been patiently waiting for. As they say when any corruption is involved...follow the money. This trail leads McCain right into the ground and makes McCain and Palin's attacks about Ayers and Rezko look like tiddly-winks!!!! Now, Obama should make a 13 minute documentary on Palin's church and outrageous religious ties. This is getting fun!!!

Obama/Biden'08

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Obamagrandmama Middletown PA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:51:51 GMT

It seems Palin is now at her most intelligent when playing the role of attack dog (with lipstick and heels by her own admission). "Hey I'll campaign in Michigan, I'll talk about Ayers and Wright... let me at him!" The best weapoon against Palin is Tina Fey. She can portray the mean but popular girl in high school that Palin is exhibiting right now.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Annabeth, Denver, CO — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:51:54 GMT

Can we please fast forward to Election Day?!? I think I'm starting to drown in the mud...glug, glug...

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Gregory Peek, Birmingham, Alabama — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:52:01 GMT

No rhetoric, no hype can become so shrill as to drown out the fact that Bush and McCain have crashed the American economy.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Snorts White — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:52:06 GMT

Keating was such a long time ago. I mean, Obama was using illegal drugs back at the time.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:52:10 GMT

All this Ayers stuff is just distraction from a McCain campaign that desperately wants to move this election off the issues.

McCain wants to "turn the page" on the economy so he can talk about Ayers. I'm guessing most Americans are a little more interested in the economy.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Rory -Montana — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:52:38 GMT

I can't believe we have to go through this character assassination by tenuous relationships all over again.

McCain cannot win this game that he's playing. He was actually a member of the Keating Five - it shows his poor economic stances and proves he's corrupt! And don't forget about Palin's witch doctor!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

ATR, Springfield, VT — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:52:51 GMT

McCain's involvement with Charles Keating is relevant to the election as McCain was "palling" around with Keating while Keating was committing crimes. McCain was rebuked by Congress for his poor judgment in trying to get regulators to back off from investgating Keating. A key distinction between Ayers and Obama is all the McCain camp has is guilt by association, i.e. Ayers accused of crimes long before Obama met him and therefore Obama must be guilty also. Does anyone not see this as a McCarty-type attack?

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

John Easterling, Virginia Beach — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:52:56 GMT

Mccain and Palin has already lost the election. I voted today and the majority of people voting was for Obama, of all races. Mccain lost the race when he changed his moto to the change platform. Young people was really turned off by this. Haven't he heard the phase "he is jocking my style." Palin's voice reminds me of the old south, redneck mentality;people with wife-beaters on and a six-pack of beer in their hands. Where is the pick-up truck with the flag on the back window (you know what flag i'm talking about). She is entertaining, kind of dumb and ready to lead them third grade student to the play ground, that's about all.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Suz In KS — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:53:11 GMT

The Obama campaign has said repeatedly that they'd go there (to Keating) if McCain insisted on that. So they have. It does go to the heart of John McCain's understanding of the economy. He's repeating the same mistakes in THIS ECONOMIC CRISIS. Its more than fair to ask "what's changed in John McCain's mind about the banking industry?" Its a much more fair comparison than someone who served on a committee or the pastor of a church and its much more relevant than any guilt by associate strategy.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Peace and Love — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:59:17 GMT

The fear of Obama winning this election has already started. the dow drops 10,000 points today on news of Obama's lead. Obamas only plan is not hidden anymore.
Destruction US has started

The beginging of the END for the US ! Thanks Obamanuts !
Anyone but obama (Sent Monday, October 06, 2008 11:33 AM)

*****************

Get some help for that condition. I think it is called 'paranoid delusion'.

On second thought, maybe it is just racist hatred.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Sheila Robinson, Baltimore, MD — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:59:34 GMT

The McCain campaign is desperate and unprincipled.

Why would McCain use Sarah Palin to attack Barack Obama about his association with Bill Ayer's behavior almost 40 years ago? Is McCain suggesting that Obama should have vetted Mr. Ayers when they met 12 years ago? As in "hi I'm Barack Obama, were you ever involved in terrorist activities in the 70's?" Since Obama was eight years old and living in Indonesia he would not have known about the Weather Underground at the time. Using that logic Obama would need to vet anybody over 60 before serving on a Board with them.

McCain still has not vetted Sarah Palin. In addition, his vetting of his campaign staff is suspect; otherwise how does he explain having all of those K street lobbyist on his team.

It is too bad he had to go there, because now Obama has no choice but to fight back. Something which he learned a lot about in Chicago.

This latest McCain stunt should tell the American people all they need to know about his character. That he would rather lose a campaign using slimeball tactics than lose a campaign based on principled arguments.

Obama/Biden

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

MSierra, SF — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 15:59:49 GMT

'...was cleared of accused wrongdoing in the Keating 5 scandal -- though he was rebuked by the ethics committee for poor judgment...'

That jsut means he wasn't found in bed with a live boy or a dead girl

McCain wa a PERSONAL friend of Keating
He took REPEATED TRIPS on Keating's private plane
They VACTIONED TOGETHER

Keating was a CROOK who SWINDLED THOUSANDS out of their retirement savings
THIs is McCain's FRIEND, wjho he defended
McCain tried to INTIMIDATE REGULATORS

Character and HONOR, INDEED

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

sotiredofignorance — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:00:00 GMT

To all of you who keep saying that McCain was exonerated: He was rebuked for poor judgment.

That is just what we need, McCain in the POTUS office to demonstrate more of the poor judgment that he is famous for.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Rodney Hopper, Waxahachie, TX — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:00:42 GMT

The first rule of debate is when the other side has no choice but to resort to personal attacks, you have officially won the debate.

McCain has no new ideas and is very much part of the problem. McCain's own cowardice in this campaign has shed his once Teflon coating. Once out of place associations like Keating will come to light.

The difference between McCain's smears and the upcoming Keating attacks (which Obama's campaign warned it would use if the campaign went to a dark place), is that Wright and Ayers attacks will seem like desperate flailing, while Keating is actually relevant to the economy, so Obama can stay on message and still slam McCain's Keating ties.

I'm sure these smears could be avoided if Sen. Obama had agreed to appear with Sen. McCain at any one of the Republican rally townhalls scheduled by the McCain campaign.

http://www.rodneyhopper.com

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Teresa, Spokane, WA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:00:56 GMT

Does McCain have a "clean bill of health" ????

Is he receiving full benefits from the military because of his post traumatic stress "disability", which is to be expected after being a POW........ (PTSD) is a psychiatric condition ...

What medications is he on? Which antidepressant medicine does he take? Some have been proven to result in erratic, violent, and sometimes even suicidal behavior.......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antidepressant

Prozac and its cousins, including Paxil and Zoloft, have been linked to suicide and violence in hundreds of patients. ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_Post_Traumatic_Stress_Disorder

Can we really afford to elect a president with a "psychiatric condition" such as Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?

WAKE UP AMERICA!
.....it's almost time to vote!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

The Deficit Hawk — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:01:53 GMT

At the end of this race, will McCain be able to live with what he's done to his brand? Seems completely trashed to me - and definitely self inflickted

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Rodney Hopper, Waxahachie, TX — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:03:10 GMT

"You wanna know how to get Capone? They pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. *That's* the *Chicago* way!" - Jim Malone

http://www.rodneyhopper.com

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Teresa, Spokane, WA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:03:41 GMT

Keating 5 & Bill Ayers

The difference between associations..........

is that with The Keating 5- McCain is DIRECTLY involved & ACTUALLY faced charges.......

on the other hand.......
Obama didn't even know Ayers was involved in ANYTHING when Obama was only EIGHT YEARS OLD!

One association is NOT simply an association, it's ACTUAL involvement in CRIMINAL activity!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Erik, Mechanicsburg, PA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:04:06 GMT

<<The beginging of the END for the US!>>

No, the beginning was in 2000 when Bush got in. But, of course, you're too blinded to see that.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Kim, Portland, OR — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:04:12 GMT

Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was doing his thing. He is now a proffeseur. McCain was 58 with the Keading 5 scandal. He was lucky he didn't not get sent to prison for his involvement. Remember that had to do with the economy. That shows you how McCain handled the economy in the past and how he would handle the economy in the future. Don't forget the Troopergate investigation with Palin. She used her position to get someone fired. She doesn't need more power, like she said in the debate. I cannot believe that she wants more power than Cheney. That should scare every american. If anyone wants to associate Obama with Aires, my response is I will raise you Keading 5 and Troopergate.

Go Obama/Biden

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

John In Nebraska — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:04:27 GMT

It's always the most guilty that point fingers at everyone else. McCain and Palin are as unethical and crooked as they come! Go away hypocrites!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Jim, Mesa, AZ — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:05:13 GMT

Is she kidding me! Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Were do I start. Not only does she have associations with her controversial church clergy, there is her association with, and her husbands membership in a group of Alaska secessionists. Even Wright did not advocate treason. Then there's McCain's associations. His courting of controversial pastors John Hagee and Rev. Parsley, his Keating 5 involvement in which he took bribes from Charles Keating during the Savings and Loan crisis. There's his wife's own drug problem which she stole from her own charities drug supplies and John aided in the cover-up. What about his association with Phil Grahm who is so out of touch he called us a nation of whiners and said we were in a mental recession. What about his returning from Vietnam to find his wife disabled from a car accident and subsequently has numerous extra marital affairs including with his current wife Cindy. Associations are just that associations they don't necessarily reflect the person. If they want to go there they should be prepared to deal with the consequences.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

billy smith — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:06:35 GMT

Remember to vote Obama supports. If we win and Obama serves two terms, ALOT of old republicans will be dead and we won't have to worry about simpletons voting against stem cell research, a woman's choice, fighting global warming, for endless war, for tax cuts for the extremely weathly, for anti gay bigots, etc etc.

DO IT!!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Jill Reno NV — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:06:58 GMT

ABOUT TIME.... And don't believe all this bull that he was only remanded to make it fair...
read about this. and remember Neil Bush (the forgotten son) was involved in the SNL scandel when his father George was President...

Sound Familiar....

Think before you vote... Think about ALL of us

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

MSierra, SF — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:07:11 GMT

McCain's campaign Chairman RICK DAVIS has received $2 MILLION form Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

And let's be clear, HE WAS ON THE TAKE UNTIL AUGUST 2008 !!

He was BEING BRIBED for ACCESS to McCain !!

Let's talk about THAT !!

And maybe even 'Foreclosure Phil' Gramm
McCain's economic advisor

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Andrew, Leawood KS — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:08:05 GMT

Any day now, McCain will call for an end to all character attacks, and proclaim "I'd rather lose an election than be lowered to gutter politics."

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Susan, Bristol PA — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:08:13 GMT

Sarah Palin is like Millie Vanilli - when the telepromter stops, she'll have nothing to say. Why is this so scary? Because she doesn't just want to be VP. She has enough chutzpah to actually believe she can and will be Prez and the sooner the better! Look out John, she's armed and dangerous!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Connor — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:08:37 GMT

If Palin brings up Wright, they should post the video of her having a ritual done in her own church, but an Kenyan revivalist to protect her from witchcraft. Turn about is fair play, and there is footage to prove it.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

TF, Denver CO — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:09:33 GMT

"The fear of Obama winning this election has already started. the dow drops 10,000 points today on news of Obama's lead. Obamas only plan is not hidden anymore.
Destruction US has started

The beginging of the END for the US ! Thanks Obamanuts !" by
Anyone but obama

Your comment proves how misinformed you really are. The Dow didn't drop 10,000 points it dropped below 10,000. If the Dow dropped 10,000 points in one day it would be at zero abnd people would be jumping off buildings.

Where is McCain's plan??

And yes the destruction of the US did start a long time ago when Bush locked our futures into an Iraq war to please his Saudi investor friends and Daddy.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

bob — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:09:56 GMT

First, we are only 5% of the world's population. We better learn to co-exist with the rest of the world. Second, we are living in a financial bubble. We have debt being bought by the Chinese and many other nations. We are selling the rights to our roadways and bridges to foreign interests, because the politicians are revenue hungry. We have national debt of $33,333 for every man, woman and child in America. Are you able to pay that off? For your kids too? Third, this bubble is about to burst. We can't afford to be the world's bully any longer. We are 5% of the world's population and we pretend we can continue to run the world. We are living way beyond our means personally too. Individual debt is through the roof, hence the bankruptcies in the housing sector. We don't save for things we want. We borrow so we can have things now that we haven't earned. Fourth, for the good of the United States, stop the name calling and get serious about the issues. Start learning the facts. If you don't vote for Obama/Biden there will be just more of the same until the bubble bursts and we are in a depression that will make the other look like a tiny financial blip.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Erin Flynn, Rockvegas, FL — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:10:39 GMT

With the Dow down yet again, and retirees near panic, and families worried about their mortgage, health care, jobs and the cost of living, oh and the two wars, McCain is awfully arrogant and thick to think we're interested or swayed with his attacks on Obama's character. Obama has a plan and will be a breathe of fresh air. McCain cannot separate himself from the GOP and the Bush admin.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Lee-- Dallas, TX — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:11:03 GMT

We want substance, talk about the issues!!!

We want substance, talk about the issues!!!

We want substance, talk about the issues!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Renny — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:11:40 GMT

I still say if they had taught birth control in some of these republican schools we just would not have the ignorance and stupidity we see out of so many of them today.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

McGarbage\McStupid Not in 08. Not Ever., Cincinnati, OH — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:12:05 GMT

If the Charges were dropped on McBush and the charges were dropped on Ayers what h*ll is the big deal. If this Ayers is such a piece of crap, then why ain't he in the jail cell next to Keating? Ayers is now a professor and he is on some education project too. I am sorry but the Ayers crap was before my time. If he was trying to blow crap up - then he should have been behind bars all of these years.

As for McPalin. If she wants to go there with the church, then she better explain her stupid church. Witchcraft, Alaska will be the last state standing at the end of days. I am sure they got their Obama\Biden voodoo dolls ready..

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

The first Mrs. Mccain — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:12:53 GMT

John Mccain is no war hero. He is a coward for using his POW status to get elected and then stay elected...hero indeed...hrrmmmph

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

BethanyB — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:14:29 GMT

OK - Let's see --
The McCain/Palin camp want to hold Obama's feet to the fire because of AYERS. Obama who was 8 years old at the time of the bombings. Now ok - I will admit that AYERS at that time was a rebel and took the wrong way to speak out. However, this country allows people to change and get forgiveness. Soooo after 30 years AYERS has changed and has been forgiven by soooo many people (excepting the RIGHT of course). But OBAMA can't be president because of it??
I question their ethics with this one--
McCain--Keating 5. There was and has been no change in McCain judgement since then.
Palin--Husband belongs to radical association that wants to separated from US and go to CANADA. No one there has denounced that affiliation.
BUSH--Was a COKE head during college, and an alcoholic. But he changed and asked forgiveness - the supreme court gave him the presidency.
MRS BUSH--Killed someone in a vehicle because she used poor judgement when she was a young adult. We forgave her all.
CHENEY--shot someone while serving in office - he says it was an accident - we buy it and forgive him.

Now - you neo-cons out there think that the people in this country (who have pretty much had enough of the smears) are not going to come back stronger and vote for OBAMA because you say AYERS was bad 35 years ago!!!

Someone in McCains camp has got to buy a clue sometime soon or the end will come long before NOV!!!

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Aiming High, NC — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:15:13 GMT

the followin is in response to: <<<DO YOUR RESEARCH MCCAIN WAS CLEARED REGARDING KEATING ISSUES! OBAMA CAN'T DENY ANY OF HIS TIES TO FAR LEFT EXTREMISTS FRIENDS, BUSINESS ASSOCIATES, DOMESTIC TERRORIST AND PREACHERS!
clh MISSOURI (Sent Monday, October 06, 2008 11:33 AM)

>>>

cIh Missouri!. Obama wasn't charged in anything to have been cleared. Fact. Keating did play a major role in the launch of McCain's career..Ayers held a fundraiser for Obama but it's hardly a drop in the bucket compared to what others have done. So the ALL CAPS doesn't work here.

I'll see your Ayers, raise you Keating

Sarah, Brookyn, NY — Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:16:36 GMT

I will see your total BS and raise you a direct hit - NICE.