http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspxAll three front-runners - Clinton, Obama, and Edwards -- sent out releases declaring victory. The Clinton campaign’s came out first and referred to pundits’ comments. The Edwards folks came out second, using blogs to back up the claim. And Obama’s campen-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#171911Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:42:20 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:171911jerry/corpus christi texasEven the GOP sent out a victory letter last night. God, if this is what the democrats have to offcer, I'm not worried about anybody on the liberal side winning in 08.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#171979Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:10:13 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:171979KYJurisDoctorHilary and Obama won this one. What do you think? Join the chat: http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/04/on-national-scene-democratic.html#linkshttp://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#171999Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:18:11 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:171999Jael, downstate ILto Jerry in Corpus Christi....you must have watched a different debate than I did last night. Edwards, Clinton, Obama, Richardson, Dodd and Biden all appear to at least be capable of thinking through problems to come up with viable solutions. Which would be a welcome change from the president we all have suffered through the last 6 years with. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172001Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:19:03 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172001Robert Catalano, Salem, ORWell, Jerry, the parade of fools is yet to come. The Republican debate will win the award as the saddest comedy show of the year. So, I hope you pull up to the TV with your sandwich made of white bread and your cheap beer and have a gas...literally.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172057Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:42:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172057Matthew P. RodenIf that's the best the Democratic party has to offer then a Republican will be in the White House in '08. Thank god.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172060Fri, 27 Apr 2007 15:43:08 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172060Matthew P. RodenIf that's the best the Democratic party has to offer then a Republican will be in the White House in '08. Thank god.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172122Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:08:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172122JJ in NJI'm hoping someone confronts Rudy Giuliani next week about his fearmongering -- and reminds him that it was a Republican president and himself who were on the job when the 9/11 attacks -- hardly something to inspire confidence. Brian Williams, are you listening?http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172268Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:57:39 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172268JIrby, ColoradoI think part of the caution we saw last night was in part because anything they said could and would be held against them. It must get pretty stressful to know that the Republican dirty tricks department has you under a microscope. Repubs rely a lot on dirty tricks in lieu of good government. I'll have to agree with Matthew Roden above. I think there's an even chance there could be a Republican in the WH in 2208. Hopefully not before.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172403Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:55:14 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172403John Doe, The Peanut GalleryHa! People like Jerry and Mathew will continue to say things like that right up until Novemeber 2008. At that point they will switch to the "Vast Left Wing Conspiracy" talking point. Some people are just beyond help...http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172550Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:15:01 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172550Steve Turner Cedar Falls IowaI don't think the Democrats worry about the Republican Dirty Tricksters, they'll get them anyway. The Republicans are the ones who have to worry, as the past has shown they are as viperous to their own, as they are to the opposition. Maybe moreso. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172625Fri, 27 Apr 2007 19:42:46 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172625FL"Even the GOP sent out a victory letter last night. God, if this is what the democrats have to offcer, I'm not worried about anybody on the liberal side winning in 08". That's funny because they had the same talking points in NOV. 2006 and they got their asses handed to them. Keep up with the same nonsense talking points that will help your party move the direction of the Wig party.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172715Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:30:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172715Jane, Southern MississippiOh, well, what do you expect from the RNC? The whole bunch of republicans in power are in Never-NeverLand. What's up is down. What's down is up. How they wind up with the conclusions they do is because they can't get from point A to point B. They wind up at point D, for delusional. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172726Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:36:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172726jtbNEWS Flash to the Dem. hopefuls: George Bush is NOT running for re-election. They sure look stupid criticizing HIS policies, which won't be in effect after Jan., 09. Do any of them even THINK the Repub. nominee is going to sit around and watch them bash a non-running President...actually, he probably will, while he pitches his own agenda and policies to the American people. God, this is going to be so much fun watching the Dem nominee run against GW, while the Republican candidate smokes him on the issues.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#172753Fri, 27 Apr 2007 20:49:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:172753OliviaWhere was the solidarity of the Democrats--with the exception of Obama, who mentioned New Orleans in a sentence--with the Katrina survivors? Why did nobody speak out regarding the importance not only to survivors but to the rest of America of making Louisiana, Mississippi, and the rest of the storm zone whole? I would not have been surprised by the "let them eat cake" Republicans' being silent on this matter in support of their "Dear Leader's" inaction. But for the Democrats--reputedly members of a "party for the people"--to thus remain silent is at the very least cowardly, at the worst, a betrayal of their own principles. Obeying the debate's rules is not a valid excuse--it smacks of the Nuremberg defense, "I was only following orders." The Democrats should have stood up and spoken out about the slowness of the recovery in Louisiana, Mississippi, and the rest of the storm zone, against Bush Administration neglect, and in support of Katrina and Rita survivors. There was a lot of "Wag the Dog" crap about abortion and the "right to life"--I have to ask, What about New Orleans' right to life? What about the right of people now in Houston, Atlanta, and other cities, who now cannot afford to do so because of the housing shortage, to return? The Democrats should have stood up to Brian Williams and let him know what really matters.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#173179Sat, 28 Apr 2007 03:16:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:173179Jane, Southernjtb, as long as the republicans SUPPORT Bush, it's fair to say they are included in the bash against Bush. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#174053Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:08:18 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:174053jery/corpus christi texasI like the way people continue to attack the president, even though he is not running this time. If you Liberals remember, you had a god in John Kerry, who was going to fix everything in the country. He reported for Duty, but just sat on the bridge and watched the Liberal boat go over Niagra falls. Jane, again, for the upteenth time. If you have to depend on goverment to get you out of a sticky situation, then you are just the kind of person who never amount to anything in life. I see a lot of people who are putting their lives back togather in new Orleans and mississippi just fine, only the liberal press never mentions those people. If they have serious problems, then yes they should be helped. But if you have a strong back and you want to get ahead in life, then put down the gumbo and bourbon and get to work! Goverment, either liberal or conservative will never help you out, as we learned. You have to help yourself.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#174594Mon, 30 Apr 2007 02:42:37 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:174594Jane, Southern Mississippijerry, what is wrong with you? My roof's fixed. The insurance didn't pay what it said they should pay in the contract, and that did upset me. The other few things will be fixed. They are not major. I live ninety miles north of the Mississippi Gulf. I am not claiming I needed help from the government, just that the insurance company didn't pay up, but I'm over that. We had three trees on our house. We got two off and volunteers from Tennessee got the other one off. We put tarps up before the "blue tarps" got here. We managed just fine. We were not carpenters, so we couldn't fix the damage we incurred - it wasn't just roofting tiles blown off, and it took ten months to get a carpenter. We worked our tails off moving things to the right of the way, had some help with a bobcat from volunteers from Alabama one morning, had a lot of trouble with a giant oak in the front yard that was uprooted, but we managed, lost everything in the freezer: vegetables from the garden, pecans from our trees, fish we caught, etc. We got money from the red cross and that was it, and it helped replace our food. We did waste $7.00 on a stuffed frog toy for our dog Yogi Bear. We named it Katrina. jerry, you assume too much, and you're not very smart when you do so. People on the Gulf Coast are in way worse shape than anyone up where I live. Bay St. Louis is gone, as is Waveland, where Katrina hit head on. Towns all up and down the Mississippi Coast are not the same. Nothing will ever be the same there. With or without government help, it won't be the same. Have you seen it? And I agree that the press, liberal and conservative, never mention Mississippi. It's like it didn't happen here.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#174640Mon, 30 Apr 2007 03:49:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:174640Katrina FatigueOlivia, I am not so sure I would continue to hound Brian Williams as you have done and continue to do across every board you can access. At least he is giving you the opportunity to express yourself. Once he gets as tired of your NOLA tirades as most of the rest of us are, he might just pull the plug. By the way, as I have previously asked you, how much time have you spent on site in NOLA, post Katrina. I ask, because my step-daughter is there again for the next two weeks. Her church rotates members in for two week intervals. There must be something you could do to help there. If you took all the time you spend writing these angry, repetitive dissertations, you would have time to go help.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#174661Mon, 30 Apr 2007 04:15:22 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:174661jerry/corpus christi texasJane, that is because you don't have a mayor of a chocolate city who ran away durinng the worst of the storm and cries about why he can't get any help. All those buses they had that could have gotten people out of there and he either too stupid or coming close to committing murder, to try and save those poor folks. When you have a disaster like this one, of course you hope the goverment bails you out. But people witnessed, this is not going to happen. You have to take accountability for yourselves. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#175611Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:25:16 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:175611OliviaKatrina Fatigue--God bless your step-daughter for going to the storm zone with her church and helping out. This is something I would dearly love to be able to do myself, but I'm too fragile physically and financially to do so. It breaks my heart that I am unable due to these circumstances to do this myself. So all I can do is offer my moral support and a sympathetic ear to Katrina survivors and cheer on those who are able to help or otherwise do right for Katrina survivors. And let those who don't treat Katrina survivors right know my serious dissatisfaction. I hope you are having a good day after judging me.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#175643Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:55:05 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:175643Katrina FatigueOlivia, you judge us all the time. If you wish to fully exercise your right to free speech, including verbally attacking all who have a different opinion from you, then it is unfair for you to take the position of victim when we choose to exercise our own right to free speech. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#176088Tue, 01 May 2007 03:54:10 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:176088Jane, Southern Mississippijerry, we did take responsibility for ourselves. Why do you imply in one post that we didn't, and then on another post start talking about New Orleans? We, my husband and family, don't live in New Orleans. Many, many people who were affected by the storm don't live in New Orleans. People in New Orleans are hurting and so are we. Where I live, most of us have relatives in Louisiana, being on the state line and all. We were all in the same boat, and are just doing the best we can. If you can't say something nice, don't say anything. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/04/27/171760.aspx#176265Tue, 01 May 2007 12:34:59 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:176265OliviaKatrina--I don't judge you and everybody else "all the time"--only when I've been judged first. And regarding the idea that I've been "verbally attacking" all who have a different opinion than me, I only do so after having been verbally attacked first. If you think I judge people all the time and frequently verbally attack other bloggers, you probably haven't read all of my posts or read what I'm responding to. I enjoy exercising my right to free speech in a good, intelligent, civil discourse with someone who disagrees--but if I am judged or verbally attacked I'll fight back. That's only fair. And by the way, why have you singled me out, when I've noticed others (no comment as to names) who seem to be far more judgmental than I and verbally attack others far more frequently than I do. The above applies to other bloggers. Regarding judging and verbally attacking public figures such as President Bush, the candidates, Brian Williams, et. al.--they're fair game. As long as they do things worthy of complaining about, I'll complain.