To sign or not to sign

nuanced — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:11:44 GMT

Burris says he was appointed by God so God should sign it.

To sign or not to sign

MSierra, SF — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:12:11 GMT

Can we all just get along ?

Remember the fairy tales about 'Bigoted Black people' ?????

Remember the indignation and the self righteousness ??

'...But an analysis of precinct-level voting data on Prop. 8 from Alameda, Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Diego and San Francisco counties, which are home to nearly two-thirds of California's black voters, suggested that African American support for Prop. 8 was more likely about 58 percent....'

About 58%

From SFGate.com:

'...Black support for Prop. 8 called exaggeration
Wednesday, January 7, 2009

Reports of overwhelming African American support for Proposition 8's ban on same-sex marriage were exaggerated in exit polls, a new look at the November election results has found.

"Party identification, age, religiosity and political view had much bigger effects than race, gender or having gay and lesbian family and friends," said Patrick Egan of New York University, who wrote the report with Kenneth Sherrill of Hunter College of New York for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force.

Exit polls found that 70 percent of black voters backed Prop. 8 on Nov. 4, even as they overwhelmingly supported Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, who opposed the same-sex marriage ban.

But an analysis of precinct-level voting data on Prop. 8 from Alameda, Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Diego and San Francisco counties, which are home to nearly two-thirds of California's black voters, suggested that African American support for Prop. 8 was more likely about 58 percent.

That support among blacks is still well above the 52 percent Prop. 8 received from all voters in the Nov. 4 election. Much of that can be attributed to the strong religious tradition in the black community, where 57 percent of African American voters attend church at least once a week, compared with 42 percent of Californians overall.

"The study debunks the myth that African Americans overwhelmingly and disproportionately supported Proposition 8," Andrea Shorter, director of And Marriage for All, said in a statement. "But we clearly have work to do with, within and for African American communities, particularly the black church."

Religious voters were among the leaders in the pro-Prop. 8 efforts, with 70 percent of weekly churchgoers backing the same-sex marriage ban. Among voters who hardly ever attended religious services, only 30 percent voted for Prop. 8.

"This is a wake-up call to the (lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender) community," said Jaime Grant, director of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force Policy Institute. "We must do a better job of organizing in the faith-based community, using LGBT people who are themselves part of that community."...'

'...The study debunks the myth that African Americans overwhelmingly and disproportionately supported Proposition 8," Andrea Shorter, director of And Marriage for All, said in a statement. "But we clearly have work to do with, within and for African American communities, particularly the black church...'

Time for a little more dialog and a little less self righteousness

We're all in this together

(Oh, and thanks for burying this story, FR)

To sign or not to sign

CL Lawson, AZ — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:14:01 GMT

-->"It would be a violation of his ethical obligations to the people of Illinois " <--

Violation of "ethical obligations"? What ethical obligations? Illinois, or any other state for that matter, hasn't codified their "ethical obligations". This is a lawyer writing this? Lisa Madigan, the states AG? She should be disbarred for wasting the courts time.

The Secretary of State of a state is not the gatekeeper to who the governor appoints to fill a senate position. If the Secretary of State is blocking the appointment by saying he/she is in fact that gatekeeper, then the Secretary of State should be impeached for not doing their job.

What do the people of Illinois put up with this cr*p?

To sign or not to sign

jawillie, Philadelphia, PA. — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:25:52 GMT

And the game of "hot potato(e)" continues.

Everyone says you have to appoint this guy, but no one wants to actually do it and they're passing the buck. I hate to sound like some of the sore-losers who post here, but I must agree that this is really looking like bad comedy here. Just seat the guy and be done with it.

To sign or not to sign

ain't the truth — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:25:53 GMT

good for mr. white. stand on your principles mr. white. if that stop burris from being seated then so be it. if he gets seated anyway then oh well.

To sign or not to sign

Jackson, Seattle — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:31:22 GMT

Considering the pay for play scandal, shouldn't this be investigated *first*? That way, if he is cleared, then he can be seated without incident.

To sign or not to sign

Anna Molly — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:31:42 GMT

Another loser argument from the attorney general of Illinois. Don't you wonder what HER motivation is in all of this?

To sign or not to sign

justwaitandsee — Wed, 07 Jan 2009 20:32:54 GMT

If Roland Burris needs the Secretary of State Signature then take him to court and let them decide.

Memo to Roland Burris: No one wants you bcause you are a clown; which is confirmed every time you give a press conference. One of children should tell you to shut up.