Who's supporting the troops now?

The Pajama Pundit — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:36:25 GMT

Ah, playing politics with those who lay down their lives for our freedom. It never gets old....

/snark

http://www.thepajamapundit.com/

Who's supporting the troops now?

Bad Moon Rising — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:41:11 GMT

The left are not supporting the troops with their irresponsible rhetoric and Pelosi wanting to release those Gitmo pics.

"I see a bad moon rising
I see trouble on the way
I see the end is coming soon
Don't come out tonight
There's a bad moon on the rise."

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Clara Kansas City, MO — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:41:44 GMT

It was a matter of time before this was highlighted.

I wonder how Cindy McCain's spine is doing these days?

EVERYTHING is political with these hacks, don't kid yourself. There isn't a politician out there, Obama included, who isn't 'partisan' on at least SOME level.

The difference between Dems and Repubs is that Repubs line up in LOCK STEP with their 'leaders' - DEMS at least attempt to give the illusion of Independence (and therefore chaos).

Keep the body blows coming, all is fair in politics! As Domenico informed me earlier this year - IT IS A CONTACT SPORT!

(thx for the tip, Domenico!)

Happy Friday folks, I am cutting out early,...to start my weekend sooner than normal,...Carry the torch, friendlies!

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Ann, NYC — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:43:56 GMT

At least we are starting to remember some bad events during the past few years: http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/06/fuzzy-on-torture.html

Who's supporting the troops now?

MSierra, SF — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:44:10 GMT

SUPPORTING THE TROOPS is a lot like IGNORING THE DEFICIT

Republicans Only do it when a Republican is President

They don't do it when A Democrat is in charge

It's called HYPOCRACY !!

From Washington Monthly:

'...THE AD WRITES ITSELF....

For several years, Democratic opposition to blank-check spending bills for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were the single most popular area of attack for Republicans. To vote against "funding the troops," the GOP said, was to betray the nation and those who wear the uniform. It was the basis for countless speeches, ad campaigns, and attacks.

Whether a lawmaker was fully satisfied with individual provisions in the spending bill was irrelevant -- the troops are fighting wars and they need the money. Excuses won't protect them or give them the resources they need.

In fact, just a year ago, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) argued, "[T]here is a clear distinction between saying you support the troops and backing up those claims with genuine action. [Obama] once said 'we shouldn't play chicken with our troops' when it comes to funding our troops in harm's way, and [Hillary Clinton] urged General Petraeus at the start of the surge to request 'every possible piece of equipment and resource necessary' to keep our troops safe. These words turned into little more than empty rhetoric when both proceeded to vote against funding our troops last year."

Last week, of course, the situation was reversed, and it was House Republicans "voting against funding our troops." This week, the DCCC is unveiling a series of 60-second radio ads targeting seven vulnerable GOP incumbents on their votes. This one, for example, goes after Rep. Lee Terry (R) of Nebraska.

"Around here, we recognize Independence Day with parades ... and picnics ... maybe a few fireworks.

"But July Fourth is about more than that. It's about remembering those who fought for our freedoms. And those still fighting today.

"Congressman Lee Terry used to understand that. When George Bush asked, Congressman Terry voted to fully fund our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. And, last year he said, quote, 'We must give our military every resource it needs.'

"Seems like Congressman Terry is playing politics now. Last month Congressman Terry voted AGAINST funding for those same troops. It's true: vote number 348 -- you can look it up."

Republicans did make this easy for Dems. Indeed, all the DCCC had to do was pull up the same kind of radio ads Republicans used before and insert GOP names.

As a substantive, policy matter, lawmakers can have completely legitimate reasons for voting against military spending measures, and opposition to these expenditures does not make one an unpatriotic terrorist sympathizer.

But Republicans opened this door. It's hard to blame Democrats for walking through it...'

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MSierra, SF — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:44:19 GMT

Who's supporting the troops now?

DEMOCRATS USING TROOPS FOR POLITICAL GAIN ! — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:44:46 GMT

HERE WE GO AGAIN --- DEMOCRATS USING OUR TROOPS FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL GAIN --- LIKE PAWNS.

THERE IS "NO LOW" LIMIT WITH DEMOCRATS!

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Paul Jacobs, RI — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:45:00 GMT

Who's supporting the troops now?

Ear Marks — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:46:42 GMT

What was the level of pork in the last bill to pay for the wars, something like 30%. Bush had clean bills come though for war funding. Obama, not so much.

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Andrea, New York City — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:47:32 GMT

GOP: The party of NO to EVERYTHING!!

An immature bunch of selfish angry bad-losers!!!

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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:47:59 GMT

THIS IS ABOUT HARD-EARNED TAXPAYER MONEY.
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OBAMA'S HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS? (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:20 AM)
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Hey Mister All Caps Guy…

Here’s some friendly advice…. LOUD DOESN’T MAKE YOU RIGHT!

Who's supporting the troops now?

jawillie Philadelphia, PA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:51:07 GMT

>>>It continues, "Seems like Congressman Terry is playing politics now. Last month Congressman Terry voted AGAINST funding for those same troops... It’s a shame. Call Lee Terry. Ask him why he voted against our troops. Ask him: What changed?"
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Easy answer: "I WANT OBAMA TO FAIL"

http://jawillie.blog.com

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Nashville_fan — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:51:11 GMT

You know the primary problem I have with the Republican party is hyprocrisy:

Whey THEY are in power, we are all supposed to pipe down, fall in line, and support the President.

When THEY are not in power, the talk moves to seccession, armed revolution, the President is making the country "less safe", the President's statements are too "passive", the President is a communist, a socialist, an apologizer.

I think the word I am lookin for is TREASON.

Yep that's it.
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From previous post:

To OBAMA'S HEALTHCARE FOR ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS?:

Riddle me this:

Is it your position that if someone is in this country illegally, and they get sick, we should just let them die because their paperwork isn't in order?

Really?

Here's an idea . . . when a person who is here illegally gets sick . . . once they are feeling better . . . they can work to pay off their bills . . . just like the rest of us do . . . or we can just send them back home and call it even . . . but whining about it and letting them die?

Not an option.

P.S. Why are people in other countries far away who need help glorified, but our neighbors to the south villified?

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Chris - IL — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:52:04 GMT

It is so fun to watch the Democrats take the spin and lies the GOP has used and turn it right back around on them.

Politics is just so dirty! It would be so much more reasonable to stick to real facts and talk about differences of opinion about how to go about things. But then that would kill most of the political machines of both parties.

It is interesting that many people think this is a recent phenomenon. The tradition of dirty politics goes all the way back to Jefferson and Adams!

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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:53:11 GMT

House Republicans -- including GOP Reps. Ken Calvert (CA), Charlie Dent (PA), and Lee Terry (NE) -- for voting against the recent war supplemental bill.
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Ummmm... just asking... but in Republicant speak, doesn't that make them 'unAmerican'?

It breaks my heart that our troops are still there... we must get them home safely & sooner rather than later!

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R McDonald — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:53:20 GMT

No energy tax. You people are killing us with all your frikkin' taxes.

Get Obama out of the White House.
Moon Dawg (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 9:45 AM)
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Funny, I haven't got a raise since the election, and yet *my* paycheck is a little bigger than it was six months ago. No tax hikes in *my* check. And it is statistically almost impossible that I am the only one.

Obama's not leaving the white house, babe, learn to cope.
Sucks to be you, don't it.

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Glad your paycheck is bigger. When do you find the time to spend the extra $8 you're getting every week? And of course Obama has paid for your little Rockefeller Trust Fund by loading up on he national credit card. So all the children who will be adults tomorrow will be paying for the extra Happy Meal your buying today.

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Dan, NY — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:55:21 GMT

2010 is also heating up in New York, as the GOP has drawn its first gubernatorial candidate (and a famous one at that) while a new poll finds David Paterson and Kirsten Gillibrand are in trouble: http://campaigndiaries.com/2009/06/25/lazio-fully-intends-to-run/

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no joe, no bo, nj — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:55:49 GMT

It's the earmarks, stupid. Okay, not quite as catchy as i't the economy, stupid, but on the mark. We cannot afford to just keep handing out money.

Anybody see the updated CBO report?

Looks like, thanks to Obama, the CBO has redone the numbers from 3 months ago, which predicted the total debt would be 82% of GDP in 2019, and has a new prediction.

200% of GDP.

Two Hundred Per Cent.

They advise tht now is not the time for new entitlements. they further advise cutting spending now, rather than when we are in full scale panic mode.

Is anyone listening?

First Read-this was not important enough for you to post on?

Wake up people-Obama is destroying this nation,not because he is evil, but because he lives in an alternate world where reality does not intrude.

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Graham Linsey, Tulsa OK — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:56:00 GMT

Nashville_fan: I have asked repeatedly, and yet all I hear is crickets . . . am I missing something?

Most everyone knows to ignore both you and your rants.

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Pacheck, Huntington Beach, Ca. — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:57:11 GMT

I hope wars are getting unpopular. We settle nothing by killing poor people. The perpetrators escape every time.

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Andy Gibbs — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:57:30 GMT

Obama would have taken a turn in the dunk-tank yesterday, but it would have put out his Marlboro.

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Beverly in Chicago — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:58:22 GMT

It's about time the Republicans(the wing Ding Party of NO) especially GOP Reps. Ken Calvert (CA), Charlie Dent (PA), and Lee Terry (NE)being HYPOCRITES. iF
If they could give a carte blanche to the Bushwhacker to build military complexes in a contrived war, they should want to take care of this country as well. But since they have a reflexive negation action to President If they could give a carte blanche to the bushwhacker to build military complexes in a contrived war, they should want to take care of this country as well. But since they have a reflexive negation action to President Obama they will use any stupid reason to "Just Say No".

Family Values my A**

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And it was for a very good reason — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:58:44 GMT

And will the radio ads say why these folks voted against the bill? Of course not!

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Eric, Salinas, CA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:01:36 GMT

Isn't it funny how the wheel turns and now it's the repugnant ones who are being bashed for not supporting the troops by voting against the troop funding bill. I so enjoy the sweet smell of poetic justice early in the morning.

It's about time to withdraw our troops from Iraq as we now see just how ungrateful the Iraqi government is saying that our troops leaving their cities is a victory against the occupation. It's time to let the Iraqis handle their own security and to stop wasting our taxpayer dollars on that sinkhole of lives and money. It was totally stupid to have ever gone in in the first place, we were mislead by the lies of Marquis de Sade Cheney who kept bringing back bogus intel to justify the unjustifiable.

It's sad that MSNBC tv is unwatchable this morning as it goes nuts over one story and ignores all the more important stories we really want to see. Thankfully History International is running the great Battle 360 series about the USS Enterprise.

Bring Our Troops Home Now!
Prosecute War Criminals Bush and Cheney!

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Liberal Angie, Tennessee — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:06:25 GMT

I support the President, but not the troops.

Who's supporting the troops now?

Anna Molly — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:13:12 GMT

You just don't get it, do you? Republicans really aren't against the troops. They're just against federal funding for the troops. Troops, like schools and health care, should be funded locally, through property taxes and bake sales. Or maybe parents could even provide troops with food, body armor, and other stuff. Recent experience shows us how well that works out. And marriage laws should also be local, so that getting legally married in one state doesn't necessarily entitle you to be married if you move, evidently notwithstanding the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the Constitution. (Article IV, Section 1) --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Faith_and_Credit_Clause

Now, on the other hand, what we really need is federal legislation to prohibit local governments from enacting legislation to keep assault weapons out of the hands of nutcases and states from enacting pollution controls that are greater than other states.

What? You still don't get it? Me, either.

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Nashville_fan — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:17:42 GMT

"Nashville_fan: I have asked repeatedly, and yet all I hear is crickets . . . am I missing something?

Most everyone knows to ignore both you and your rants.
Graham Linsey, Tulsa OK
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Everyone except you?

lol

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Man up no joe . . . it will be okay . . . geesh! — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:20:08 GMT

Translation of no joe's posts:

The sky is falling!

The sky is falling!

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Juan, Ft Lauderdale, Fl — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:20:18 GMT

The Gop are so transparent/predictable. They only support the troops when they control the three branches of government and when they use the troops to pander for political gains.PERIOD!

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Anita, Birmingham, Alabama — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:20:28 GMT

From NBC's Mark Murray
Pegged to the upcoming July 4 holiday, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee says it will begin airing radio ads against some targeted House Republicans -- including GOP Reps. Ken Calvert (CA), Charlie Dent (PA), and Lee Terry (NE) -- for voting against the recent war supplemental bill.

The REPUBS are finally getting their asses handed to them on a silver platter and with "facts" and no rhetoric. Gotta love it!

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Jody, Iowa — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:25:07 GMT

Smart ad, not nasty just honest. It's about time the democrats played the republican game of questioning patriotism. For too long, democrats have been called unpatriotic, unsupportive of our military and I'm glad to see the tables turned. Democrats supported the troops but they wanted something besides "stay the course" from Bush, the dems put together funding bills with timelines which were vetoed or threatened to be vetoed. Demanding some resolution to the Iraq war is not unpatriotic, continuing the same failed policies was. The war was badly mishandled and that was a way of pushing back. You have to conclude that this was strictly party politics--for the war before they were against it; anything to be against Pres Obama.

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Allen - Omaha NE — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:25:18 GMT

What was the level of pork in the last bill to pay for the wars, something like 30%. Bush had clean bills come though for war funding. Obama, not so much. - Ear Marks
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The only war spending bills Bush vetoed was when a timeline for US withdrawl was included in the legislation.
If you want to sit there and believe the former President cared about 'clean' war spending bills, I've got some property here in Nebraska with a great view of the Pacific ocean I'd think you would just love.

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Feisty Redhead Roselle, IL — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:25:38 GMT

Nashville_fan: I have asked repeatedly, and yet all I hear is crickets . . . am I missing something?

Most everyone knows to ignore both you and your rants.
Graham Linsey, Tulsa OK (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:56 AM)
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Most everyone knows that the Dopes of Nope CANNOT form a coherent thought of their own – so what do they do?

Ignore…

Proves yet again ignorance really is bliss with these clowns!

Yup 8 long years of PURE ignorance & they're still stuck on stupid!

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Clara Kansas City, MO — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:26:45 GMT

Ear Marks (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:46 AM)

you mean the 'off budget' CLEAN bills for war funding - so he could give the illusion of balanced budgets,...get real. What a laugh I just had at your expense.

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MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS ALWAYS ON, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:27:35 GMT

ALL REAL NEWS REPORTERS SHOUT OVER YOU LIMPWRISTED LEFTIES! THAT'S WHY HANNITY AND MORNING JOE ALWAYS WIN! LIBERALS HEADS ARE SO FULL OF CRAP SHOUTING IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET THROUGH THEIR THICK SKULLS

OBAMA=SOCIALISM! SOLIALISM=TAXES!

I WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ILLEGAL IMMAGRANTS GET FREE HEALTH CARE!

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RETIRED VET — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:28:18 GMT

It's a sad shame how the dems load up the military spending bill with their pork for the IMF that has NOTHING to do with the military. We Americans can see through their smoke and mirrors and will be voting for real change.

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Clara Kansas City, MO — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:28:42 GMT

R McDonald (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:53 AM)

Where's the beef? You won't be an adult anytime soon, so why are you worried?

I'm aware that was a Wendy's 'dig'!

Who's supporting the troops now?

Pete Roleum, Detroit, MI USA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:30:28 GMT

Who's supporting the troops now?

Sam - NE TN — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:30:49 GMT

Sam’s Rule # 3 - Week 12 - UIT (a freshman level class)
Avoid using all capital letters. The words are more difficult to read. We interpret capital letters as the start of a sentence and mentally pause momentarily while scanning them. This phenomenon causes the mind to read each word rather than the flow of the sentence, slowing comprehension and inducing fatigue in the reader. The end result is that the text is skimmed with very low retention or skipped over entirely.
If it is your intent to be dramatic (the caps as yelling concept), it is much more effective to use caps in small blocks which places emphasis on selected words or phrases.

So, you “All Cap Lovers”, if you would like to have people read /agree/disagree with your posts, PLEASE unlock the caps key, otherwise you will continue to look like that crazy wino down on the corner, wildly waving his arms and babbling loudly about those alien implants, and we will continue to shake our heads and ignore you as we “walk” by.

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Allen - Omaha NE — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:32:55 GMT

Glad your paycheck is bigger. When do you find the time to spend the extra $8 you're getting every week? And of course Obama has paid for your little Rockefeller Trust Fund by loading up on he national credit card. So all the children who will be adults tomorrow will be paying for the extra Happy Meal your buying today. - R McDonald
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You are so right. I saw the National Debt bill come in the mail right before Obama took office and we hade the bill down the last $50 dollars! We only had 1 more payment and the US would have been home free!

Whatever...I love the implied undertone that prior to Obama taking office the US debt was in sometype of managable position and that when my 9 year old son turned 40, it would have all been taken care of!!?!?!

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WorkDude — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:33:27 GMT

Seems Rep. Ken "Pay-for-Sex" Calvert, who hails from my neck of the woods (The Big OC/Inland Empire, CA) would rather pay a prostitute (remember the 90's) than support OUR troops. Calvert brings a whole different meaning to: Boots on the ground. He'd rather slip off this Repugs-loafers and enjoy the Motel scene......

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Anita, Birmingham, Alabama — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:33:31 GMT

With Sharpton, everything is about race. Why a convicted felon (for a race based crime) gets to speak out about race and admonish white people on a daily basis is a mystery to most people.
Jim Wheaton, Florida

What the hell is he suspose to do? Not exercise his right? People like you really slay me. How can you find fault in what Sharpton does (for some "very" valid reasons) when you overlook Rush Limbaugh?

Shame on you. You have a personal problem with the man. Al Sharpton said nothing on yesterday's interview with Keith Olbermann that was out of line.

As fa as his criminal record goes...It is an ill wind that doesn't change. Since you are a far right winger...get your Bible out and read it. The basis of christanity is conversion...isn't it?

I'll be glad when I get my glasses back..so sorry for the type O's.

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Tek Jansen, saving the universe — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:35:45 GMT

Eric, Salinas, CA. I don't get the History International channel, too bad, I love Star Trek movies!

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Jonathan Flint, MI — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:36:59 GMT

Nashville,

Treating illiegal immigrants with tax payer funds isn't right. I guess if an illegal immigrant was sick and was taken into the hospital it would be up to the staff whether or not to treat him/her, but to simply take some moral high ground without taking into consideration the social consequences is akin to religious right groups screaming and yelling about abortion being murder without looking at the whole picture.

If it becomes known that illegals can't expect any benefits without providing legitimate proof of citizenship it might not make it so tempting to jump the border without doing the work to become a citizen.

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Big Al in Chicago, Vote early and vote often! — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:41:54 GMT

But since they have a reflexive negation action to President Obama they will use any stupid reason to "Just Say No". Beverly in Chicago (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:58 AM)
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Beverly, start by saying NO to Daley, Stroger, Burris and Quinn and break the Democrats near monopoly on the State of Corruption: a.k.a Illinois.

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Tim Stocken, Highland Lakes, NJ — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:43:12 GMT

When we first balked about Iraq, we were traitors. Now that we are stuck there, our troops no longer deserve the support of the bums that originally sent them there. Shame, shame, shame...

Sorry, couldn't get the following posted on time this morning.

In my youth, my heroes, Jack, Martin and Bobby, were taken away and my homies, Jimi, Janis and Jim left too soon as well. Death in the sixties was a never ending tale, but the pain will always exist and I'll never get used to it. When it happens too soon the sting lasts forever.

God bless Michael and Farrah. She continues to make my leg tingle and his beat blasts beyond time. What we should take from each is that the overwhelming success and achievement each attained was not a guarantee of happiness.

Thanks for the shout yesterday, Nashville. I'm sorry about my need to occasionally attempt humor and I appreciate everyone's indulgence. An actual compliment is an unexpected bonus. Right back at you, our little _fan for your reinforcement of what Barack has already accomplished.

Have a nice weekend, friends. Even those of you I make cringe with my drivel.

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Dave, Baltimore — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:45:56 GMT

The hypocrisy of the GOP has reached overload. When Dems vote against troop funding, they are un-American and un-patriotic. When the GOP does it, they are standing for their principles. It's the same way with spending - the GOP took us from a $250 billion surplus to a trillion dollar deficit. However, when the Dems have to spend money to get us out of the mess the GOP put the country in, the GOP is all of a sudden concerned about spending.

As far as supporting the troops is concerned, what is it when an administration and a GOP controlled Congress full of chickenhawks wages an unnecessary war and doesn't adequately supply our troops or wage a competent war plan? The fact that these hypocrites can even look themselves in the mirror is a testament to how far this country has fallen in the past decade.

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Jody, Iowa — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:49:58 GMT

Ear Marks, and others trying to justify this. You have short term memory loss. The republicans never put through a clean bill and that includes war funding. Go back and look, there's dollars for plenty of unmilitary pork in the GOP funding bills. Keep trying to justify garbage if it makes you feel better.

Bad Moon, Dems Using Troops....and any others trying to flip this GOP flip/flop. You are beyond hope. It's the republicans that have used our troops as pawns and their failure to vote for funding shows how much they value them. This was NOT a vote on principle. The GOP is responsible for a "War of Choice" that has killed thousands of Americans and wounded many thousands more, not to mention the thousands of innocent Iraqi citizens. The GOP: flip floppers, they were for the war before they were against it but not for concern about the troops, or the budget--but merely because they lost the election and refuse to vote for anything Pres Obama requests. That is what using our brave, proud military troops as pawns in a political game is and they should be ashamed.

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TorpedoYou — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:56:50 GMT

Who's supporting the troops. Apparently not Obama. You'd think the troops and the war would come up during his press conference the other day, but no, that didn't happen. Most people in the country don't even know the troops are in the middle east anymore. See any stories lately about the troops progress, victories, defeats? None. That's because they aren't doing anything, other then being "deployed".
Paul Jacobs, RI (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:45 AM)

As a Blue Star father with a daughter deployed in Kuwait treated returning servicemen for PTSD, I resent your comment and suggest that you report immediatly to your nearest Marine Corps recruiting station and sign up. You sir have not the slightest idea of what you are talking about given the last administrations "lip service." You are most likely another faux patriot who never served his country.

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mike ca — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:57:07 GMT

the republicans are the same ones who bitch and moaoned about people not wearing lapel pins and they think they can make an excuse for not waering one now thier BAD! (MJ ref)

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Nashville_fan — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:58:57 GMT

To Jonathan, Flint MI:

We are human first, and citizens second.

I am sorry if treating other people as human, even if they are in the wrong place at the wrong time makes you feel uncomfortable.

But it is the right thing to do - no it is the only thing to do.

If you want to increase measures to prevent illegal immigration, great.

But once someone is here and sick, they must be cared for.

That's not debatable.

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Ear Wax — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:00:08 GMT

What was the level of pork in the last bill to pay for the wars, something like 30%. Bush had clean bills come though for war funding. Obama, not so much.
Ear Marks (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:46 AM)

You are entitiled to your own opinion just not your own facts...bush and republicans repeatedly rammed through non war spending goodies from 2002-2008 in their patriotic war bills...

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GI Joe - The Retired Vet — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:00:59 GMT

That is what using our brave, proud military troops as pawns in a political game is and they should be ashamed.

Jody, Iowa
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Yep, the dems should be ashamed for loading the military bill with pork for the IMF.

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Big Al in Chicago, Vote early and vote often! — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:01:38 GMT

Please enlighten me on all the other tax increases you've been hit with by "us people." Chris - IL (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:20 AM)
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Well Chris in Illinois, it is obvious you live outside of Chicago and Crook County where we have some of the highest sales taxes and fees in the country!

Who raised taxes lately? Try King Richard II (Daley) and Todd "I inhereted my job from dad" Stroger for starters!

You and Redhead from Roselle enjoy your non-Crook county taxes now but don't worry, Gov Quinn will clip you shortly.

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Anita, Birmingham, Alabama — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:01:40 GMT

Why a convicted felon (for a race based crime) gets to speak out about race and admonish white people on a daily basis is a mystery to most people.

P.S. You have this same right...exercise it and stop complaining...Rush Limbaugh doe ist on a daily basis and his his inflammatory and causes hate crimes..Sharpton's doesn't.

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:02:09 GMT

"Republicans who voted against the legislation say they supported the troops, but opposed it because it contained unnecessary spending, like money for the International Monetary Fund."

That reason wasn't good enough for Democrats during the GWB years. Why should Republicans get to use it now? Hypocrites.

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CA Indy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:02:11 GMT

Dave in Baltimore and all others "shocked" by how the GOP demagogues on this topic: the Democrats have only themselves to blame. They could have come out and said that "it's unfortunate the GOP is using our troops as pawns, etc, etc." during the past 5 years. But nobody in the party is either (1) smart enough to come up with the line or (2) disciplined enough to hammer it home. As an Independent voter, I'm constantly amazed at how INEPT the Democratic Party is at sticking to a message and hammering it until it's lodged in the American consciousness.

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Rick, NC — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:02:16 GMT

Who's supporting the troops now?

griff, seattle — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:03:42 GMT

For Bad Moon Rising....

Some folks are born made to wave the flag,
Ooh, theyre red, white and blue.
And when the band plays hail to the chief,
Ooh, they point the cannon at you, lord,

Some folks are born silver spoon in hand,
Lord, dont they help themselves, oh.
But when the taxman comes to the door,
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes,

Some folks inherit star spangled eyes,
Ooh, they send you down to war, lord,
And when you ask them, how much should we give?
Ooh, they only answer more! more! more! yoh,

It aint me, it aint me, I aint no military son, son.
It aint me, it aint me; I aint no fortunate one, one.

Who's supporting the troops now?

Sucks to be you too, don't it. — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:05:09 GMT

Glad your paycheck is bigger. When do you find the time to spend the extra $8 you're getting every week? And of course Obama has paid for your little Rockefeller Trust Fund by loading up on he national credit card. So all the children who will be adults tomorrow will be paying for the extra Happy Meal your buying today.
R McDonald (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:53 AM)
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I have to wonder. Where you one of the ones crying about Obama taking all our guns away. Whatever happened to that? Oh, wait, I remember, it **didn't** happen, did it? Yet people went on and on and on and on about how it was going to be happening any day now, and we all better be scared.

You people never tire of running around crying "the sky is falling" do you?

But signing off as Ronald McDonald was very appropriate, seeing what an assclown you are.

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:06:07 GMT

"Bush had clean bills come though for war funding. Obama, not so much.
Ear Marks (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:46 AM)"

SDI, the V22 Osprey, and the F22 Raptor constitute "clean"? Only in a world where "clean" is synonymous with "waste".

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Jonathan Flint, MI — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:08:27 GMT

Oh also in response to...

P.S. Why are people in other countries far away who need help glorified, but our neighbors to the south villified?
Nashville_fan (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:51 AM)
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Most of the time they are glorified by private NPO's trying to help. This is a good thing too. Charitable organizations are constantly dwarfing the US foreign Aid programs in the amounts of money raised to help people.

US Foreign Aid should be cut though. It's not helping anyone as much as its holding people back from rising above. Most of the time we send aid to foreign countries that are under hostile regimes this aid (usually food and medical supplies) gets stolen by those regimes and used for their purposes which in turn frees up funds for these groups to spend on other things like guns.

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Jim Wheaton, Florida — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:10:07 GMT

With Sharpton, everything is about race. Why a convicted felon (for a race based crime) gets to speak out about race and admonish white people on a daily basis is a mystery to most people.
Jim Wheaton, Florida

What the hell is he suspose to do? Not exercise his right? People like you really slay me. How can you find fault in what Sharpton does (for some "very" valid reasons) when you overlook Rush Limbaugh?

Anita, Birmingham AL

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Sharpton can exercise all the rights he wants. He's still a convicted felon and a racist.

You want to talk about Limbaugh, go ahead. The subject was Sharpton. Do try to stay focused.

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S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:11:12 GMT

It isn't a huge surprise because this would hurt the GOP image of being the ones that support the military if the Democrat controlled Congress passed it. I am sure that there are a few amendments that they object to as well that ordinarily they might approve of if it were on something else.

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GP NW Indiana — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:11:45 GMT

200% of GDP.

Two Hundred Per Cent.

no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:55 AM)
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Post the source link

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MN in Phoenix — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:16:40 GMT

What I find most interesting is this transparency thing. Bush funded most of what is happening in the middle east with emergency war funds that didn't go into the budget and no one said anything except a small few and they are not the GOP. Now the funding for the US's activities in the middle east is in the Budget for everyone to see, they are screaming fiscal responsibility, baton down the hatches!

It's very odd watching this in Politics.

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:16:41 GMT

"no joe, no bo, nj (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:55 AM)"

Linky please? If your comments are factual there must be a link to it out there somewhere.

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Anita, Birmingham, Alabama — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:19:28 GMT

Just to flip the script;

With all of my heart I believe that Gov. Sanford's wife gave him over to the press. Just read an article and she made a few statements. That woman is mad as hell with his sorry ass.

She has every right to be. But just from her brief statements/comments, they indicate that she gave his behind up. Hell hath no fury.....

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Beverly in Chicago — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:25:01 GMT

Big Al in Chicago, Vote early and vote often! (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 11:41 AM)
Beverly, start by saying NO to Daley, Stroger, Burris and Quinn and break the Democrats near monopoly on the State of Corruption: a.k.a Illinois.
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Hey Big Al

If the Dopes of Nope would (Republicans and you included) didn’t stagnate government you wouldn’t have that problem. Simple

By the way was Capone a grand father or uncle of yours?

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Frank H., Louisville, Ky — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:29:51 GMT

What was the level of pork in the last bill to pay for the wars, something like 30%. Bush had clean bills come though for war funding. Obama, not so much

You see Ear Marks, this is why Republicans are on the downward spiral and will be for years to come. Bush NEVER included funding for the wars, Iraq or Afghanistan in his budgets. The whole country knows this, why don't you? And you wonder why Republicans are on a downward spiral!!

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WWJD in Miami — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:33:33 GMT

Treating illiegal immigrants with tax payer funds isn't right. I guess if an illegal immigrant was sick and was taken into the hospital it would be up to the staff whether or not to treat him/her, but to simply take some moral high ground without taking into consideration the social consequences is akin to religious right groups screaming and yelling about abortion being murder without looking at the whole picture.

If it becomes known that illegals can't expect any benefits without providing legitimate proof of citizenship it might not make it so tempting to jump the border without doing the work to become a citizen.
Jonathan Flint, MI (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 11:36 AM)

Some christian you are.....just let the person die in the street because he/she is illegal. That's what Jesus would do, right?

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DEM JOHN CONYER'S WIFE CONVICTED OF TAKING BRIBES .... — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:43:27 GMT

FEDERAL SYNAGRO PROBE
Monica Conyers pleads guilty to conspiracy.

• Free Press Staff Writers • June 26, 2009

Detroit City Council President Pro Tem Monica Conyers pleaded guilty this morning to conspiring to commit bribery and is free on personal bond.

U.S. District Judge Avern Cohn said, "The defendant now stands convicted."

The one count of conspiring to commit bribery is punishable by up to five years in prison.

No sentencing date has been set.

Conyers, the wife of powerful Democratic congressman U.S. Rep. John Conyers, appeared before Cohn to answer charges in connection with the wide-ranging probe of wrongdoing at Detroit city hall.

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jilli, houston, tx — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:50:49 GMT

Good move hoist the republicans on their on petard!!

I'll bet they won't like the taste of their own medicine. They can thank KKKarl Rove.

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Danny, austin, tx — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:52:49 GMT

HERE WE GO AGAIN --- DEMOCRATS USING OUR TROOPS FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL GAIN --- LIKE PAWNS.

THERE IS "NO LOW" LIMIT WITH DEMOCRATS!
DEMOCRATS USING TROOPS FOR POLITICAL GAIN ! (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:44 AM)

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You're right, here we go again. This is exactly what the republicans did during the bush admin. I thought so.

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Bad Chihuahua — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:56:36 GMT

Anita still thinks she's a reporter. Get her a toy mike and let her go crazy.

Anna Molly ~ Like the Toby song "you're not as good as you once were," getting a little rad in your posts. That's okay, you fit it with the rest.

Feisty ~ What can I say that hasn't been said, or at least thought. You are crass but I think we all would miss your harrassment of us GOP bloggers.

Eric in Salinas:

We don't know how you manage to get a post in on EVERY thread.

Clara - you also have been a little rad. Not the person you started out to be but clearly you have a good heart. Just spread some of it OUR way, just to be fair.

Jody, I think Bad Moon is being fair. Remember that there is always gonna be war from now on. Don't blame Bush or Obama. Blame those screwball dictators who want to kill us all. You've GOT to fight back.

I still think that Obie is hell bent on ruining this country. I could be wrong but the last time I was wrong was back in 2005, and then I was only mistaken.

Headin' out. Good luck to all.

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Patrick, KY — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:04:34 GMT

Folks - so many can't see the forest for the tree's. Yes Bush was a liar. Now, so too is Obama. They are both greatly responsible for the horrific state of affairs, so let us not forget, they are both politicians and politicans as a breed lack courage, honesty, decency, humility, morals, and honour - yet we allow them to do what they do best - which is to squabble with one another and thus while we are distracted, they impose their self-serving will on us all.

This situation will only improve when we clean the slate, beginning at the top and all the way down through the ranks.

It doesn't matter the job - whether POTUS, or senator, or governor - they are all public service and going forward should be treated as such - a very modest paycheck, complete transparency, a short term, and we should only allow with a track record of honesty and humility to occupy these positions.

We the people should rise up and fire every last one of them - from Obama on down - eliminating billions in debt in the process. We no longer need congress and a senate. Every town, city, and community should have an electronic voting building where all the decisions that need to be made can be viewed and researched by everyone and they can vote themselves and represent themselves. Think off all the big DC salaries we can do away with.....there some real patriotism for you - in order to really serve this country the DC fat cats should step down.

This way, the only way, true majority will rule. No lobbying, no under the table payoffs, etc. This should have been implemented years ago. No more electoral college vs. popular vote, no more rigged elections, etc.

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Brandon, Fort Bliss, TX — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:05:38 GMT

The Democrat Wilson sent Americans to die for ungrateful Europe in WWI.
The Democrat FDR sent Americans to die for ungrateful Europe(again)and Asia in WWII.
The Democrat Truman sent Americans to die for ungrateful Korea and we are still vexed by Korea today.
The Democrats JFK and LBJ sent Americans to die for ungrateful Southeast Asia.

Tell me again what war mongers the Republicans are!
Pete Roleum, Detroit, MI USA

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Pete, you dont honestly think any of those wars are comparable to Bush setting his sights on invading a country that didnt do anything to us, frabricating evidence to justify his war and lying for years about everything associated with the war?

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Hush M Oney — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:35:32 GMT

What is all this nonsense about mouning MJ? Any time a child molester (or murderer, or rapist) dies and no more children will be viloated, that is a good thing in my book. It does not matter how great he was as an entertainer.

Oh......and before anyyone tells me that he was found innocent, please tell me why he payed one of the boy's family $20 million to go away.

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Dolres Fleming — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:38:33 GMT

Sorry to say but Obama does not support the troops iether.He wants them to use there own insurance instead of going to the VA for medical treatment.Obama wants to cut medicare and medicaid so he can have a national medical insurance.The worst part of it all Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States.Obama was born in Mogadesh Kenya.His mother died and his father took him to Indoneshia and left him to be adopted.Thats the reason Obqma wrote the book Dreams Of my Father.Obama should be made by the people and the government to produce the birth certificate he mentioned he carried around in the book.It will tell the truth.Obamo showed his white grandmother but not his black grandmother over in Kenya.In a vedeo it showed her and she had said that she attended Obamas birth in kenya.Obama can not be president of these the United States of America.

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mexed, san antonio, texas — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:53:20 GMT

How many Republicans wear their flag pin? Does Rush? Does Karl? How many of those Republicans we voted for voted against supporting our troops? How many Republicans are voting against health care that will support many of us who have no jobs as a result of 8 years of financial mismanagement? How many Republicans will continue to avoid accepting responsability for all they do not do to get the country moving again? How many Republicans will say "no" to immigration reform? How many Republicans in Republican run Texas will continue to stand for corrupt boarder guards who accept bribes to ignore illegal crossings of the boarders? Why are there still huge leaks in the boarders? Their retoric is one thing, their behavors are far different. Does Republican Gov Perry want to form his own country in Texas? Not really. He just wants to squeeze more money out of the federal tit to feed Texas' needs to support big business. It sure doesn't go to help the people.

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CdV LA CA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:56:45 GMT

If it becomes known that illegals can't expect any benefits without providing legitimate proof of citizenship it might not make it so tempting to jump the border without doing the work to become a citizen. Jonathan Flint, MI (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 11:36 AM)

Uh Jon, there are such things as Green Cards. That means that even if you don't have "legitimate proof of citizenship" you are in this country legally. But to many people, they're all "illegal" especially if they are of latin descent. Additionally, there are illegals who are not of latin descent, who even have light skin and blue eyes. But fear and hate just seem to come so easy when you lump so many different people into the term "illegal alien."

And as far as health care is concered. What we are saying is that it is a "human right." If you were in a foreign country and fell ill, wouldn't you want their empathy and treatment?? Wouldn't you feel better about that nation that provided you with much needed care? And aren't there plenty of US citizens who go outside of this country (Farrah's Story docmented this) for care for various reasons (i.e. newer, better, cheaper treatments or drugs/therapies that are not available in this country.) And they receive care without question. I'm not saying it's free, but it is available.

Becareful about your fear of losing our precious tax dollars to an "illegal alien" and remember the quote on the Statue of Liberty, "Give us your tired, your sick..." Would you want that changed?

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Josh, Peekskill, NY — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:59:41 GMT

Oh the sweet, sweet Irony.

Oh the hypocrisy of the right-wingers.

I'd laugh, but the situation is too serious.

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Mo — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:33:52 GMT

What was the level of pork in the last bill to pay for the wars, something like 30%. Bush had clean bills come though for war funding. Obama, not so much.

Ear Marks (Sent Friday, June 26, 2009 10:46 AM)

Back the ship up Ear Marks. their you neo-cons go again lying about Bushes war funding bills, Bush never had a clean bill go through congress, they all had ear marks for the neo-cons. Do you nuts even know what telling the truth is? It's not repeating fox and Limbaugh they've never done any thing but lie.

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eagle1776 — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:39:35 GMT

I vividly remember the phrase "you're either with us or against us". Republicans falling in lockstep behind fearless leader not daring to question the wisdom of the great one. Anyone even thinking about disagreeing with fearless leader was some sort of traitor or unAmerican at best. Now the same folks who said this stuff are voting against support for our troops. Hypocrisy, hypocrisy, hypocrisy.

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Cathy M, Newport, KY — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:44:44 GMT

I read this blog everyday and enjoy. I have tried many, many times to comment, however, my messages never appear. I can spell, I think I have rational thought, I think my comments are appropriate to the statements of FR. Yet, I never get posted.

Is this a private blog? No newcomers allowed?

I post on Newsvine, but don't like that blog. Most of the posters are way over the line.
I would just like to know how to share in the dialogue here.

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Union Baby, Tennessee — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:04:03 GMT

Pete - Detroit,
Not sure how your history reads, but my college history professor at David Lipscomb University in Nashville taught us the whole story about VietNam. Eisenhour upon the advice of his vp Richard Nixon sent a few thousand military "advisors" to train the South Vietnamise army to fight against the North. Unfortunately by the time President Kennedy was elected this situation had already escelated, kind of like Iraq today, and he had to try to win the war. He actually was for stopping the war, and Bobby most certainly was. Richard Nixon managed to stop the ending of this war in a very underhanded way just before the election of 1968, allowing himself to appear to run on a "bring them boys home with a victory" slogan that was not possible. And we all remember how his presidency turned out, now don't we? Yes he brought an end to that conflict, but he damn sure should have since it was upon his greedy and bad advice that Eisenhour got us into it in the first place.
Read a little history now and again - you might be surprised at what you will learn. Like maybe that today is: CUSTER HAD IT COMING DAY! Why this is not a national holiday is something I'll never understand.

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Union Baby, Tennessee — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:09:05 GMT

Tim - I agree with you, Janis, Jimi, Jim, & Stevie Ray Vaughan, all taken too soon, and still remembered by those of us who still love the great music. pass that love on to your children and these great artists will never die, my daughters love them, and now we have our 5 year old grandson singing Janis songs with us almost every weekend. His favorite is "Cry Baby", mine is Kozmic Blues - the words are a little harder to learn and so is the music on that one, but he will get it, I'm sure of that.
Peace be with you. Celebrate Custer had it coming day, listen to Geronimo's cadillac by Michael Martin Murphy.

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Terry, Disabled Vet, Des Moines, IA — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:23:51 GMT

Ah, when the Repukes were in control and a dem did the very same thing the Repukes painted the dem as UNPATRIOTIC! I wonder does the same shoe fit now? The Repukes are the Anti to American!!!!!!!!!