RGA goes negative on Corzine record

G. Taft, New Orleans — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:44:02 GMT

Obama's Teleprompter committed suicide yesterday.

It had been very depressed as of late.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Jake Ruyron, Somerset, NJ — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:47:19 GMT

Corzine, like Obama, doesn't have a leg to stand on. Promises, promises from Jon. Here's what NJ has, the highest taxes in the country, one of the highest crime rates, a government that can't stop spending, and governor that cannot stop lying. In short, NJ is a typical state controlled by the Democrats.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Sindee, Missouri — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:48:38 GMT

Yeah, but it's Bush's fault.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Alan, NJ — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:50:39 GMT

I think the next thing that Corzine will be hit with is the fact that he made his money working for Goldman-Sachs.

On the health care front here's an interesting article about proposal in the UK. Seems they are looking to move to a more insurance based system for some parts of the health system.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/cough-up-advent-of-the-national-care-service-1745167.html

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Anita, Birmingham, Alabama — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:50:42 GMT

Such rhetoric...all of the negative advertisement...this is really getting old...what ever happened to facts.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Trader Joe, Monroe Texas — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:52:54 GMT

Maybe Corzine can have Obama campaign for him? Can't see how that would hurt. And Barack could tell Jon to spend as much money as he can and give free health care to all. Jon will then have to inform Barack that NJ can't do that because it's a law that the budget in NJ must balance, a fact of that will astonish Obama.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Scott D, Lufkin TX — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:53:09 GMT

Pretty good ad - can't fault him 100% for the unemployment rate, but he's not 100% innocent either.

I'm waiting for Eric to say how evil Bush is and that it's all his fault Corzine got in the car wreck.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Your English Teacher — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:54:45 GMT

FR: "Corzine refused to take a no-tax pledge and left himself an out, saying, 'We're not raising taxes unless we're absolutely pushed up against the wall.'"

When translated from Liberal Speak to English, that means "I'm raising taxes.".

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Leslie Steward, Lakewood New Jersey — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:58:14 GMT

First Read; The national average went up 102%, up from 4.7% in January 2006 to 9.5% in May 2009. So New Jersey's 83% is still less than the national average.

Corzine should use that in his ads. Something to be proud of for sure.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Question Man — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:59:48 GMT

So do you think raising taxes creates jobs, or destroys jobs?

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

MSierra, SF — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:12:40 GMT

Here's some REAL HEALTH CAE REFORM !!

How about a 'Exorcism' ?
They're CHEAP !!

Sen. John Ensign, leading the Way !!

'...the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, that promotes a new health care paradigm in which both physical and psychological maladies can be cured through the casting out of demons. ...'

Didn't we do that in Nov 2008 ??

From HuffPost:

'... John Ensign Linked To "Do-it-Yourself Exorcism" Movement

Beyond the obvious hypocrisy inherent in GOP Senator and Promise Keepers member John Ensign's recently disclosed extramarital sexual affair, there's another notable aspect to Ensign's religious affiliations that has so far escaped public notice: exorcism.

Senator John Ensign belongs to a Pentecostal denomination, the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel, that promotes a new health care paradigm in which both physical and psychological maladies can be cured through the casting out of demons. In the new approach, individuals can even heal themselves by exorcising their own demons, through a process that a 2003 Associated Press story characterized as "do it yourself exorcism".

From John Ensign's college introduction to the Promise Keepers movement, through the Senator's current membership in a Las Vegas church within the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel denomination, to his current residence in a house owned by Youth With a Mission, a parachurch evangelical organization founded in 1960 by Loren Cunningham - who espouses a doctrine of Christian infiltration of key societal sectors, Senator Ensign has throughout his political career associated with charismatic Christian religious entities in the forefront of promoting a radical and new approach that is redefining Christian evangelism, which now includes a heavy emphasis on the exorcism of demons as a key to a healthy, productive, and moral life.

In the vanguard of the now international demon-deliverance movement is pastor Jack Hayford, who co-authored the 1997 book "Loving Your City Into the Kingdom" together with former National Association of Evangelicals head Ted Haggard. According to Journalist Max Blumenthal, writing for The Daily Beast, Ensign is a confident of Jack Hayford, and other evidence substantiates John Ensign's strong ties to the denomination, which Hayford has headed for five years.

In 2003 the International Church of the Foursquare Gospel paid for Senator Ensign to travel to Philadelphia, where Ensign addressed the Foursquare denomination's yearly convention. In 2006, Ensign addressed the Foursquare Gospel yearly convention via a videotaped speech.
Ensign's connection to Hayford is further underlined through the mutual involvement of the two men in The Promise Keepers, a movement that during the 1990's drew crowds of hundreds of thousands of men to Christian rallies. According to the Las Vegas Review-Journal, Ensign addressed a 2003 Las Vegas Promise Keepers rally, and Jack Hayford has played a substantial role in the Promise Keepers movement. GOP Senator Ensign's recent disclosure of an extramarital affair is particularly damaging because Ensign has campaigned on a family values platform, and the Promise Keepers seven vows include the following:

"A Promise Keeper is committed to practicing spiritual, moral, ethical and sexual purity.
A Promise Keeper is committed to building strong marriages and families through love, protection and Biblical values."

A lesser-known aspect of the Promise Keepers is the ministry's promotion of charismatic doctrines, as evidenced in its promotion of Dove Ministry founder Bill Subritzky, who teaches demon deliverance practices.

In late June 2009, a YouTube video from a Bridgeport, Connecticut black evangelical church, showing an attempt to exorcise a "homosexual demon" from a sixteen-year old teenager sparked national controversy, as well as condemnation from the left and from gay rights advocates.
But at least one report suggests that a program which seeks to exorcise gay demons was during the 1990's institutionalized at Ted Haggard's Colorado Springs New Life Church. Beyond promoting dubious attempts to banish homosexual demons, former head of the National Association of evangelicals Ted Haggard and current president of the 5-10 million member strong (estimates vary) International Church of the Foursquare Gospel Jack Hayford have each promoted exorcism, nationally and worldwide as well.

As reporter Richard N. Ostling described, in a May 9, 2003 Associated Press story, Cleansing Stream Ministries originated at Jack Hayford's Van Nuys, California Church on The Way, and Hayford still presides over the entity - which is part of a controversial but growing "demon deliverance" movement (sometimes just referred to as "deliverance"), that, according to Ostling, teaches "do-it-yourself exorcism" methods. Ostling's AP story described controversy within the American evangelical community that new "spiritual warfare" doctrines were provoking in the early part of the current decade:

"Evangelical Protestants, who generate many of American religion's notable innovations, are at war over one of them, known as "spiritual warfare."
This expanding movement believes that Christians regularly become captive to indwelling demons, which are often said to specialize in particular sins, geographic locations, objects or age groups.

The believer is taught to rebuke the demon and command its departure in Jesus' name, sort of a do-it-yourself exorcism....

Spiritual warfare proponents include the international Cleansing Stream Ministries, at the Church on the Way in Van Nuys, Calif..."

Richard Ostling's story focused on criticism of the new demon-centric approach to health care from conservative evangelical Christian Hank Hanegraaff, a Christian Research Institute member popularly known as the "Bible Answer Man", who charged the new approach derived from secular pop-culture:

Hanegraaff charges that the "deliverance industry" mimics secular pop culture. He says major Christian emphasis on demons and deliverance emerged only after the 1973 movie "The Exorcist" and other entertainment vehicles."
Demon deliverance ideas have been widely promoted in a range of contexts that include a Christian approach to mental health known as "Theophostic Ministry." According to a 2001 Christianity Today article one of the key proponents of the demon-based mental health paradigm, Ed Smith, founder of Theophostic Ministries, teaches that, "demons, sometimes numbering in the hundreds, may inhabit and influence even a Christian's mind. These demons often work to keep people enslaved to what Smith calls the "lie-based thinking" causing their pain. He teaches that these demons have to be expelled for a client to see full relief."

Megachurch pastor Jack Hayford has contributed chapters to, and co-written with, a number of books by top leaders in C. Peter Wagner's New Apostolic Reformation (such as the 1997 Loving Your City Into The Kingdom, which Hayford co-wrote with Wagner's close working associate Ted Haggard). Hayford currently provides a booklet, available for free download from Hayford's personal website, that advocates the contemporary practice of exorcism (link to PDF file of 19 page booklet)..’

‘..The proliferation of the practice of exorcism is not unique to the International Church of The Foursquare Gospel - as Rolling Stone writer Matt Taibbi described, in his 2008 Rolling Stone Magazine story "Jesus Made Me Puke", John Hagee's San Antonio Cornerstone Church features a retreat program, shorter but apparently analogous to Jack Hayford's "Cleansing Streams" ministry - in which participants go through a weekend of group-therapy self-discovery and, at the end, are coached on vomiting up their personal demons: into paper bags.

As with Hayford's Cleansing Streams approach, Hagee's weekend retreats teach specific techniques to facilitate demon-expulsion:

Throughout the whole weekend, Fortenberry had been setting himself up as an athletic conqueror of demons. Now, on the final morning, he looked like a quarterback about to take the field before a big game. The life coaches assembled around the edges of the chapel, carrying anointing oil and bundles of small paper bags...'

‘…Jane Lampman's Christian Science Monitor article noted that another significant figure promoting the new "demon deliverance" paradigm was Kenyan evangelist Thomas Muthee. Muthee became briefly notorious during the 2008 US presidential election when footage from a church GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin had attended for over two decades, since she was a teenager, The Wasilla Assembly of God, surfaced on the Internet even though the church had removed the footage from its Internet-accessible video archive. But, media almost without exception missed the context of the strange video footage.

That footage, from an October 2005 ceremony held shortly before Palin launched her successful campaign to become Alaska governor, showed Thomas Muthee exhorting his Wasilla church audience to embrace what clearly was the "Seven Mountains" strategy also promoted by founder of the entity which currently owns US Senator John Ensign's "C Street House", Loren Cunningham. Muthee then blessed Sarah Palin against "every spirit of witchcraft."

In his short speech, Muthee claimed that "the Israelites" controlled the world economy and exhorted Christian listeners to follow the alleged example and "infiltrate" key sectors of society including government, media, education, entertainment and, especially, business…’

Has anybody seen Sarah Palin's Witch Doctor ??

I can’t remember a thing about last week end…..
It must be the Alberto Gonzalez demon

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

jesse St Paul MN — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:14:58 GMT

Who would have thunk it,the republicans making false statements that are misleading,ummmmmm,where have I heard this before?Seems that they could come up with a few facts,oh,oh,my bad,the republicans never worry about small things like the facts.And they send a Guy name Shrimp out to tell there fish story's,Priceless!

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

cindy, las vegas, nv — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:19:50 GMT

Corzine is bad for NJ. Even though he is a democrat, its best for NJ that he goes.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:29:50 GMT

To me who lives in the state, I know that we are hurting like every other state in the country. To think that one governor who is trying to clean up the mistakes of previous governors during a recession, I think that takes a bit of courage. I hope people understand that there is no way that he can control the private sector's hiring and firing.

I haven't heard an ad from Christie saying... Well saying anything really. The only the commercials I have seen are from the RGA and not from him. Is he going to say anything for himself?

Anyone know when the debates are? I would like to see those three debate. There are three major candidates since someone qualified for state funds. I can't remember his name.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Fortunately we can check for ourselves — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:31:56 GMT

Funny, I've never seen First Read so eager to provide info from factcheck.org on any of the Democrats' ads.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

BoBo has got to GoGo — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:46:11 GMT

Just another Spend Spend Spend Liberal

Like his leader BoBo

"We need to pass this stimulus plan quickly, because if we don't, unemployment may rise above 8%."

BHO Washington DC - February/2009

The President’s economic advisors predicted that unemployment would rise to 9 percent by 2010 if Congress did not pass the stimulus bill, but that with the stimulus unemployment would stay below 8 percentage points.

Congress passed the stimulus bill in February 2009 and the President has repeated his claims. Asked when the public should begin to judge the effects of the stimulus, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said “I think we should begin to judge it now.”

In that case, the stimulus must be judged a failure. The figure above shows the projections the administration made in January with and without the stimulus bill, and the actual unemployment rate since then. Unemployment has risen not only above what the President’s advisors predicted would happen if the stimulus passed, but above what they estimated would occur without the stimulus. By the President’s own measure, the stimulus has failed.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

NObamadrama — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:46:32 GMT

that "Corzine refused to take a no-tax pledge and left himself an out, saying, 'We're not raising taxes unless we're absolutely pushed up against the wall.'"

ROTFLMAO...that's like saying "I won't go to sleep unless I get tired." I'm glad the GOP is fighting back! Time to stand up and challenge these folks.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

amazing grace, midwest city, ok — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:51:24 GMT

Again, the republicans give misleading facts; when are they going to change. It isn't so much as change but tell the truth. And what their candidate's record, what have he done lately. Why don't the republicans tell the whole truth all the time, especially to the public. They paint their pictures pretty and others ugly, when Americans can see for themselves, both are ugly.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

just asking — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:20:43 GMT

Hey MSNBC is it Barry Soetoro or Barrack Obama? Record revealed now now Obamas name is Soetoro..he applied for aid to Occidental College as a FOREIGN exchange student care to clarify?

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

New Independent — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:23:02 GMT

I can't stand Christie. It amazes me. Everyone in NJ knows the whole economy is bad, but they blame Corzine for it. NJ's going to be sorry if he gets in and refuses the stimulus. Then let's see what happens.

RGA goes negative on Corzine record

Jay in NJ — Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:03:34 GMT

Wow, regardless of how you do the calculations regarding unemployment or taxes, it looks real bad for Corzine. Living here in NJ, I can see how badly Corzine has screwed up this state. The feeling out here is probably similar to when Gray Davis was recalled in California. Corzine's goose is cooked in this one. No question about it. And no sum of money is going to help him in this one. He could spend every dime he has in his bank account and he won't carry this state. The level of public resentment toward governor is astounding. This is an automatic GOP pick up.