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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx</link><description>From NBC's Mike ViqueiraConsulting a dictionary, it appears that one can use either flack or flak. </description><dc:language>en-US</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)</generator><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204391</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:05:54 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204391</guid><dc:creator>Dave, Tn</dc:creator><description>Well let's all just cherry pick whichever one fits our political views and move on. Why stop now? After all this whole fighting amongst ourselves is really just to show a total lack of respect for the threat the terrorist pose to us. That's the only reason I play these games. Kudos to the democrats that claim Global Warming is the biggest danger we face today. That's really gotta piss them off. Take that UBL in your face!! Man I crack me up :-)</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204395</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:08:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204395</guid><dc:creator>wah, wah</dc:creator><description>oh, let the baby have his bottle.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204411</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:20:49 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204411</guid><dc:creator>Mark, NY</dc:creator><description>haha what a dunce.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204425</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:32:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204425</guid><dc:creator>Independent, Texas</dc:creator><description>I think that "Frick and Frack" better describes these guys. (You have to be old enough to appreciate this reference so I guess I revealed my age, huh?) Who cares how you spell the name of the coat for pete's sake.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204436</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:41:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204436</guid><dc:creator>Gary Schear, bozeman Montana</dc:creator><description>Dave, Tn--Cracked...That about sums you up.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204441</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:45:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204441</guid><dc:creator>Terry, Disabled Vet, Des Moines, IA</dc:creator><description>If being correct is the game then Dubya takes the cake and ice cream with "I'm the decider" or what ever comes out of his mouth.  McCain has lost his creditability when he started down the path of gotta stay in Iraq.  As for what I think, vote all of them out and start new.  Call it the purge vote! Does it make sense, who knows, but anything right now might be better than what we have currently.  Is it crazy, hell yeah.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204454</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 19:56:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204454</guid><dc:creator>Lee, Colorado Springs, Co</dc:creator><description>Actually go to dictionary.com and type in flack jacket and see what comes up, then type in flak jacket. Did Keith Doberman do the research on this because this is just stupid.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204458</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 20:01:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204458</guid><dc:creator>Liberrocky</dc:creator><description>
Consulting an encyclopedia it is Flak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_jacket</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204507</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 20:34:56 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204507</guid><dc:creator>Bob Owens</dc:creator><description>"Consulting a dictionary, it appears that one can use either flack or flak."

Only if you're completely ignorant of where the term originated. The term came from the German Flugabwehrkanone anti-aircraft cannons, designated FlaK as a contraction.

You simply proved McCain's point about those ignorant of military culture by including yourself it it.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204512</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 20:37:35 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204512</guid><dc:creator>Jim, Santa Cruz</dc:creator><description>Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 10th edition, flack is defined as a variation of flak, you know, like McCain is a variation of Bush.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204513</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 20:40:05 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204513</guid><dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator><description>lawl</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204525</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 20:50:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204525</guid><dc:creator>Peter </dc:creator><description>The Associated Press stylebook also contradicts the definition you've used.

A "flack" is a press agent.

"Flak" is anti-aircraft fire.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204545</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:10:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204545</guid><dc:creator>Jerry, Long Beach, CA</dc:creator><description>Pathetic effort to make McCain look wrong. Type "flack jacket" into Yahoo and see what you get:

"Did you mean: flak jacket"

Flack jacket: 218,000 hits
Flak jacket: 1,420,000 hits

McCain's right, Obama's wrong, and you can stop carrying Obama's water now. McCain certainly knows much more about military matters.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204553</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:16:04 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204553</guid><dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator><description>I love how the dittoheads are so eager to debate red herrings instead of their support for a failed policy.

And if you google flack jacket, you'll see that the two are interchangeable.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204562</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:30:45 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204562</guid><dc:creator>Dusty, Rochester, NY</dc:creator><description>Good job.  No need for Obama to go to all the trouble of  defending himself when you men of the world news specialists can intervene.

BTW, how ya doing on getting your Instant Republican Fact-checking website up and running.  Yeah, I know it's a little early to be pushing that 15%.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204570</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 21:40:38 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204570</guid><dc:creator>&amp;#197;merican</dc:creator><description>And while you're arguing over spelling, two more children are blown to pieces. Mission Accomplished.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204608</link><pubDate>Fri, 25 May 2007 22:28:09 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204608</guid><dc:creator>Ken, Seattle WA</dc:creator><description>Look up mccain's spelling of "Barbara Ann".  Too bad Mccain is ignorant of everything BUT military culture.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204680</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 00:27:41 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204680</guid><dc:creator>mm, ma</dc:creator><description>http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861611944/flak.html,its flack or flak but for McCain, its McCANE. He is so cranky, I can hear him all the way from hell.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204712</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 01:20:07 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204712</guid><dc:creator>Denny, Chugiak, Alaska</dc:creator><description>I'm sorry: would someone please tell me who had the higher GPA for their undergraduate years at Yale, Bush or Kerry? You know, I'm just wondering, because we certainly wouldn't want anyone accusing anyone else of being a "moron." Thanks for you help.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#204896</link><pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2007 13:04:39 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:204896</guid><dc:creator>RJ Fraser, Kent, OH</dc:creator><description>On the free dictionary page for 'flak jacket' there is no alternate spelling.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#205198</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 05:23:30 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205198</guid><dc:creator>Ken, Seattle WA</dc:creator><description>Copied and pasted from dictionary.com:....
flak      /flæk/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[flak] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation 
–noun 1. antiaircraft fire, esp. as experienced by the crews of combat airplanes at which the fire is directed.  
2. criticism; hostile reaction; abuse: Such an unpopular decision is bound to draw a lot of flak from the press.  

Also, flack.
flak also flack       (flāk)  Pronunciation Key  
n.   

Antiaircraft artillery. 
The bursting shells fired from such artillery. 
Excessive or abusive criticism. 
Dissension; opposition. 
Informal 
Excessive or abusive criticism. 
Dissension; opposition.....
I'm sure that by the time this is posted it will be extremely hard to read.  I wish the "enter" key worked.  But, as you can see, they are the same.  It would be "just stupid" to try to say different.
</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#205325</link><pubDate>Sun, 27 May 2007 18:31:03 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205325</guid><dc:creator>eze, seattle, wa</dc:creator><description>well Mcayne better put his flake jaucket back on when his plan for iranq blows up in our faices.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#205433</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 00:00:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205433</guid><dc:creator>Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa</dc:creator><description>Either way you spell it, it's WWII German.  I've even got a friend with that name, and people spell it differently, every time.  The proper American name continues to be what we called it in Vietnam, Triple A. 3A samo AAA.  Anti-Aircraft-Artillery.  Flack/Flak, is reserved for the WWII guys.  They flew through it, they wore the jackets.  They copped the term.  The Vietnam AAA was the Commie 12.7 and its' slug went through a flack/flak jacket like a stolen car through a red light.  Or a Politician through a perceived gaffe. (The 12.7 is still in use all over the world, but it isn't just used on planes.) Much Ado About Nothing.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#205626</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 14:37:43 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205626</guid><dc:creator>Paul Mc, Plano, TX</dc:creator><description>You can spot pitiful losers. They search for spelling errors.  

It appears McCain doesn't knows how the the term "flak/flack jacket" was used by real ground combat troops in Vietnam, as he flew 30,000ft over the battlefields. Does this moron think all the ground troops in Vietnam wearing the jackets were worried about NON-EXISTANT ANTI-AIRCRAFT ARTILLERY? 

Real combat troops used the jackets as body armor for bullets and exploding fragments from various sources like grenades, RPGs, mortors, ect. No one was carrying a dictionary around at the time and either spelling is okay. Perhaps no one bothered to tell Webster's Dictionary that when returning home. </description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#205674</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 16:30:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205674</guid><dc:creator>eze, seattle, wa</dc:creator><description>mccayne had better put his flake jaquet back on before his irack plan blows up in our feces.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#205694</link><pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2007 17:15:57 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205694</guid><dc:creator>Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa</dc:creator><description>Paul.  Sometimes those 12.7's, which were like our .50 Caliber/calibre machine gun, showed up in battle.  Yeah, the fla/ck/k jackets were good for fragments, not always for bullets (like the helmets), heavy, hot, non-functional when you slept NEXT to them, etc.  As far as walking through Big Lead, they wouldn't make it, and neither would the wearer. The guys now have Kevlar.  I guess that's something to feel better about.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#205864</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 02:37:36 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:205864</guid><dc:creator>Joe  D.   Mesa, AZ</dc:creator><description>Wow, this may be one of the most asinine, irrelevant arguments I've ever heard in politics...

Pretty sad for McCain, when all he's got to attack about a candidate is a small mis-spelling.  Reeks of desperation to me...</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#206046</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 12:28:48 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:206046</guid><dc:creator>F StLouis</dc:creator><description>Who cares? The thing we should look at is McCain is becoming befuddled and hes running for president.So we'll have another nut case in office if we're not careful.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#206053</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 12:53:08 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:206053</guid><dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator><description>"Killing Me Softly With His Song"--Roberta Flack, not "Flak"</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#206057</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 13:00:19 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:206057</guid><dc:creator>Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA</dc:creator><description>Its hard to imagine the presidential contest turning on whether we use dictionary.com or Websters Collegiate Dictionary as the defining authority for military gear.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#206124</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:02:53 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:206124</guid><dc:creator>Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa</dc:creator><description>Paul.  At least we know how to use a Dictionary.  Not all the Presidents we have chosen, are that enlightened.</description></item><item><title>'Flak' or 'Flack'?</title><link>http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/05/25/204379.aspx#206125</link><pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 14:04:20 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:206125</guid><dc:creator>JIm, Santa Cruz</dc:creator><description>...well, I learned some very interesting things about "flak jackets" from vets who actually wore them </description></item></channel></rss>