Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Russell in Maryland — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:24:28 GMT

Pace put being a team player, for team Bushco not team America, above representing the armed forces at the table or considering the good of the country. He may have been competent at that goal but incompetent at giving good advice so everyone is right.

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Todd Hunt, New Orleans, Louisiana — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:27:32 GMT

Senator Reid continues to reach new moral lows in modern politics and sets a poor example of leadership for Americans. I couldn't agree with Senator Bunning's statement in that a military leader cannot speak out or defend him or herself against such personal and outrageous comments stated by a politically elected or appointed official. Bottom Line: Senator Reid is a coward.

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IntheMiddle, Texas — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:34:27 GMT

Typical Liberal. I cant believe he had the audacity to call a serving US General "incompetent". i wonder what the few soldiers that liked Reid say now. His true colors have shown. This man has contempt for the military. By the way what qualifies him to say a General is incompetent?

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Dave, Tn — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:36:04 GMT

This is what happens when you back down to democrats. Way to go Gates and Bush. Stop wasting time trying to appease these scum bastards.

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HOT DAM — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:41:56 GMT

You are correct Reid, Pace is incompetment. Do not

care that you are criticized, it is dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Tell them BITE ME give them something juicy to talk about.

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Terry, Disabled Vet, Des Moines, IA — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:50:12 GMT

Gen Pace has had a stellar career up to the time he became JCoSC. Dumbya's ability to ruin someone's career has been spectacular to say the least. Being a team player for Dumbya is a career ender that's for sure. As for Reid's comments truth hurts man. Even for a Marine he should have seen the writing on the wall about this.

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John Doe, The Peanut Gallery — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:52:11 GMT

"Peter Pace is incompetent" ranks right up there with "the sky is blue" and "this spade is a digging tool". Reid wasn't pandering he was stating the obvious. Considering as he is the highest uniformed member of the armed services and he has backed cataclysmically bad policies in Iraq, what does he want? A cookie?! That it hurts the Republican's feelings to have the truth pointed out to them is hardly the concern of the Democrats.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 20:53:19 GMT

Pace was / is incompetant. That should be the story, not the fact that Reid called him incompetant.
Sometimes the media just totally blows it.

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Gerry, Anchorage, Alaska — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:06:51 GMT

Smooth move, Ex Lax. Another blunder by Reid. A more polished approach would have been to handle the thing behind the scenes. Instead, Reid has turned a reasonable and, under the circumstances, appropriate action (preventing reappointment given the incredible mishandling of this war and Pace's slavish towing of the administration's political line) into a media circus where Reid risks looking like he's pandering to the extreme radical bloggers, a constituency with little to no appeal outside of, well, outside of the radical blogger community. Many Americans are uncomfortable with extremists of any political stripe (and rightly so, in my opinion). This foolishness just makes the Dem Congress look like it's even further in the radical Left's pocket and gives the Right cover to obfuscate the greater issue of the handling of the war. It makes this all more partisan and political.

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Jerry B, Tucson, AZ — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:09:12 GMT

The Democrats battle cry "When you have no position or want to win a position simply speak loud and demean a person and all the other Democrats will follow". There is a reason why this kind of behavor has been rare in the history of Congress. But we of this "enlightened" age are so much smarter then those that have served in Congrees in the years past. Right!

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H P Boston — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:12:16 GMT

YEAH Reid tell them bite me and blow me. They are toast who care what they say. You can not let the rebugs and the reporter push you around.

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:21:21 GMT

The conduct of the war speaks for itself, along with the fact that they're having trouble finding generals who are willing to drink the Kool Aid and toe the neocon line. No doubt Pace did it to have "Chairman" on his resume, too bad for him. The best fighting force in history is losing personnel, prestige, and fighting power thanks to incompetent leadership at the top of our government. It's past time to stop.

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Richard Neelson — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:26:07 GMT

The old red herring rises again. Criticise anything about this war effort and you are unpatriotic and don't care about the troops. Fortunately all but about 35% of the public is finally getting wise to this BS. Please, someone on the right tell me what the strategy is for success. You can't, because there isn't one, because you can't even agree on what success looks like. And that being the case you are leaving American heroes in harms way because you are too proud and stubborn to admit you don't know what you are doing and you think if you wait long enough some miracle will happen and Muslims will reverse a thousand years of societal chaos that you somehow missed in your history books. Wat to support the troops you Patriots you.

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Wayne Young, Morristown Tennessee — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:26:23 GMT

Harry Reid is a Copperhead, pure and simple.
Reid's supporters are simple Copperheads and partisan obstructionists.
They fear a successful solution to Iraq only because a Republican Administration is in charge. The same sort of thinking which led to denying funding for US air support of the South Vietnamese long after our ground forces had left that country and the South Vietnamese were holding their own. allowing the North Vietnamese to bring in Soviet Armor to crush the South Vietnamese resistence produced what is still the greatest refugee exodus in modern history.

Look at "Bloody Murder Murtha" for example, he thinks that support missions in Iraq can be flown from Japan. Does he own a map? Does he have any idea how many mid air refuelings such missions would require?
All he's interested in is fat contracts for new submarines to be built in his district by companies that contribute to his campaigns.
Perhaps he thinks submarines are the best weapon for battling Islamist Extremists hundreds of miles from any shoreline.

Whenever a Jihadi sees someone like Reid crying that the war is lost this strengthens their resolve. Battles are won with steel, wars are won with will.

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Marc Bergman — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:32:03 GMT

Earlier this year Reid was criticized after saying "the war is lost."

What he actually said was: "As long as we follow the President’s path in Iraq, the war is lost. But there is still a chance to change course and we must change course. No one wants us to succeed in the Middle East more than I do. But there must be a change of course. Our brave men and women overseas have passed every test with flying colors. They have earned our pride and our praise. More important, they deserve a strategy worthy of their sacrifice."

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sick of hypocrites — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:33:11 GMT

Hey, panty-twisted neocon "scum bastards": Bush is incompetent. Get all foamy over that.

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Bob Anderson, Harker Heights, TX — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:33:46 GMT

The picture I have of General Pace is standing besides Rummy and agreeing with everything he said.
It was Rummy that told Pace he could not longer talk directly to the president (Rummy would do the talking. That should have been resign time. Reid is right!

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:40:20 GMT

Wayne, how can the Democrats obstruct the successful solution to Iraq when even the President can't tell us what that looks like? At what point were the South Vietnamese holding their own? They didn't care enough about their puppet government to fight for it, just like the Iraqis. Afterward the Domino Effect turned all of Southeast Asia communist, right? WRONG. Do you really believe the Iraqis that become Jihadis after years of cowering in their homes while the battle rages all around with no electricity or water are paying much attention to what Senator Reid said today? We've destroyed their country and we have no intention of rebuilding it. THAT is what will strengthen their resolve.

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Don Joe, Plymouth, Minnesota — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 21:52:28 GMT

Its funny that Reid gets attacked by the media more for stating a truth than Pace gets for being incompetent. Is anyone really going to argue that the attack on the Iraqi people is competent?

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:01:18 GMT

Marc.This is incorrect.Your Reid statement was a self- clarification of the original Reid comments he made to AP reporters immediately[12-15 minutes]before returning to the Senate floor and delivering his ''as long as we follow the presidents path''to hook to his original ''war is lost comments''.The AP caught it,so did ABC NEWS and CSPAN, as did the Boston Globe[all for Apr.20,2007]So did Reids hometown Las Vegas Review-Journal which has now observed that Reids numbers are the lowest in his political history now dipping below 19%.The hypocrisy we have here is that Murtha proponants blasted GOP members who did not serve for going after a mere Marine major who had not been in uniform for decades,who now back a non-serving Reid for piling on to a currently-serving,highly combat-decorated four star general.[and this,at the very moment we have found that Reid has placed at least two of his sons on a taxpayer payroll acting as property wheelerdealers for the Vegas strip on lands still owned by the feds[BLM],Reid,being the Chairman of the powerful Energy Committee. see:The Center for Responsive Politics www.opensecrets.org].Reids crookedness is rapidly catching up to his own incompetence.

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David Adams, Las Vegas, NV — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:02:19 GMT

Fact: our troops were using unarmored vehicles in Iraq and were being devastated by IEDs. Fact: half of the equipment belonging to the National Guard has wound up in Iraq, with no replacement gear forthcoming, resulting in the Guard's inability to respond adequately to disasters on the home front. Fact: Pace failed to lead in equipping his soldiers at home and overseas, and failed to lead by questioning the obviously failed strategy in Iraq. He offered no alternative military strategy, but instead deferred to Rumsfeld and Gates. Harry Reid simply stated the obvious - the man was/is incompetent and Bush's failure to renominate him simply enforces that fact.

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mm, ma — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:03:24 GMT

He sure did heck of a Job, that Pace.

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Edward John Abdo Ft Lauderdale, Florida — Thu, 14 Jun 2007 22:52:47 GMT

If we reflect on the many decent Generals that have
left the Iraqi scene, we have to undertand that the
real problem is not with the Military Brass, but with
our little weasel in the White house. the conditions in Iraq are very explosive, and nobody in their right
mind would want to stay. Our soldiers are being killed
daily, but Mr. bush sits back in the white house unconcerned, Playing the part of a Macho Mouse.

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F StLouis — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:08:52 GMT

Way to go Harry buddy. Keep telling the truth and the republicans will all begin to have seizures and strokes.

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John Dittmer, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 00:57:38 GMT

People Please! As an active Marine officer, General Pace does not make or allowed to publically critize foreign policy. His job is to try to implement it the best way he can. Please stop using him as the whipping boy for your frustrations with the Bush Administration. Harry Reid should keep his comments about any of the troops to himself.

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Realy mad, AZ — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:21:51 GMT

Democrats ,, babbling out of date idiots.. You want incompetent,,Harry Reid is the leader of flip flopping bungling. These homeseaders have realy screwed American reality. Everyday we have to listen to this democratic Bull sh--. We are sick of it and their selfserving domains. Hey , Media Paris hilton is more inportant than listening to a babbling idiot!!! The a-- holes have to keep covering their own self serving failed a--es!!! Shut the f--- up Reid!!!!

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Desmond — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:28:14 GMT

Surely, if our president felt General Pace should keep his job, he would kept his name in for the confirmation process. He always seemt to remain loyal to team players. Did Secratary Gates have a larger part in the decision then we are led to believe?I was very suprised to see General Pace sidelined.

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Got it right, AZ — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:31:57 GMT

Puta big red nose on this clown,, He is Hillary's right hand clown,, The clown leader.. The Idiot doesn't know how to keep his big mouth shut.. Go back to Vegas and play the craps,, ""because you have rolled snake eye's here.

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Jedi vs The Dark Side, Ft Worth, TX — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:35:24 GMT

Senator Reid may very well be correct that General Pace is "incompetent" however I still hold out hope that he is just doing what he has to do as a military man in a horrible political environment. As for the troop surge, it was a brilliant idea.... trouble is that it was about 2 years too late! Two years ago, the situation in Iraq could hardly be considered a civil war (as if any war is civil) but now the 2 primary factions in that lost country have made sure with the assistance of neighboring countries. Of course, how could we have possibly expected this president and his administration to have handled the lead-up to full scale civil war? Look at the president's position on issues in OUR country! Open borders? How could President Bush win a war in Iraq when one of the keys to a victory would be to shut down the Iraqi border with Iran? This man can not... correct that, WILL not secure OUR border here in the United States to stop the invasion from Mexico and the assault on our economy and social services. Well, well, there you have it. Shut down the Iraqi border with Iran and a troop surge 2 years ago (of possibly 100,000 troops) and we might be talking about victory in Iraq, a friendly, stable country in the middle-east, and our proud soldiers would be home now. General Pace might or might not be "incompetent", but the administration sure as hell is! Oh, and for all of you "way out to the right" folks, please know... I supported and voted for George W. Bush. I have supported him and this "incompetent" administration for the first 4 years. Now my eyes are open. With my experience with the military, and the obvious nature of how the White House conducts business these days, I can not as a person of conscience blindly support these people any more.

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Wayne Young, Morristown Tennessee — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 01:57:30 GMT

"Wayne, how can the Democrats obstruct the successful solution to Iraq when even the President can't tell us what that looks like? At what point were the South Vietnamese holding their own? They didn't care enough about their puppet government to fight for it, just like the Iraqis. Afterward the Domino Effect turned all of Southeast Asia communist, right? WRONG. Do you really believe the Iraqis that become Jihadis after years of cowering in their homes while the battle rages all around with no electricity or water are paying much attention to what Senator Reid said today? We've destroyed their country and we have no intention of rebuilding it. THAT is what will strengthen their resolve. "
The South Vietnamese held out for over two years after the last American Ground Forces withdrew.
"27 Jan 73 - Official end of the Vietnam War. Between 27 Jan and 29 Mar 73, a total of 587 military and civilian prisoners were released by the North Vietnamese, and during that same period, 23,500 US troops were withdrawn from South Vietnam

29 Mar 73 - 67 more US P.O.W.'s were freed in Hanoi. The same day, the US withdrew its remaining 2,500 troops from South Vietnam. This date also marked the actual end of military involvement in Vietnam.

"
"9 Mar 75 - A major offensive begins against South Vietnam with an attack on Ban Me Thuot in the Central Highlands. South Vietnam fell in 55 days.

"
As for the "Domino Effect" North Vietnamese attempts to conquer the rest of Southeast Asia were stymied by the losses they incurred during the Vietnaman war and loss of Marxist Red China as a sponsor after North Vietnam chose to snuggle up to stalinist Moscow.
So the Vietnam War did in fact prevent success of the Domino effect.
In a falling out among thieves, North Vietnam did invade Cambodia of course , but was unable to seriously threaten Thailand, and is still involved in supressing the Montanards.

As for Iraq the only people working to destroy that country are al-Qu'ida and the Sunni Insurgents, two factions now at each other's throats at least temporarily.
Successful conclusion will come when Iraq's Armed Forces can handle security on their own, with limited US and UN involvement.
Since Iraqi Enlistments are up lately due to coalitions of Tribal leaders throwing their support to the Government the goal seems attainable.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:11:02 GMT

I think Dingy harry has spent too much time in the nevada sun, making those sweetheart land deals. No wonder President Bush has higher poll ratings then this four eyed mornon. He is the ultimate flip flopper of the democratic party. Earlier this morning he was in a meeting with liberal bloggers. They must have followed Don Corleone's lead and left a horse head in his bed as a reminder to make sure that he stays true to the Moveon.org and pink broads lead on talking about the war. This happened the last time he met with the liberal bloggers. You libs must have a picture of him doing something disgusting to get him back in line like this.

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John Galt, Wisconsin — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:17:47 GMT

Which part of WMD, dead or alive, shock and awe, mushroom clouds, regime change, last throes, foreign fighters, purple fingers, follow us home, democratic government, stable democracy, stay the course, turn the corner and Defeatocrats don't you liberals understand? Can the Republemmings possibly make it any clearer? The Shrub-in-Chief Rules! Long live the Shrubbery!

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IntheMiddle, Texas — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:53:28 GMT

David Adams: Fact in Iraqui Freedom I we had our regular HMMV's simply because that is what the military was equipped with. The IED came about from Iran to which helped those insurgents adapt to be able to inflict a LITTLE damage to us. ALL armies adapt to what the enemy is doing so we adapted and received up-armored HMMV's.
Fact: Everyday each learn of the other's weakness. ALL armies have some weakness. You adapt and overcome.
Fact: If you have ever read a national guard/reservist enlistment contract you will see in paragraph 2, line 6 it states that in the time of a national emergency DECLARED BY THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES as such may/may not be called upon to serve in the volunteer regular army for a period as to be determined.
FACT: 35% of the total natl guard is presently deployed of which 10% of that is in Bosnia/Herzgovenia
FACT: The natl guard individual units are responsible yearly for submitting a report to the Pentagon as to readiness (We all know these documents are consistently forged)so when its time to go what do you expect. By the way half of the reserve units dont even physically report to drill so what do you expect.
FACT: Pace is a military general with a chain of command above him.(Rumsfeld) We in the military follow orders. This is not a democracy. That is why the military operates so well. Dissention will get ur azz killed.
FACT: Harry Reid has no military credentials tha I know of to be able to make a statement about a General. He says stupid shyt like that because he knows that General wont respond to that simple BS.

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rick,ky — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 02:57:00 GMT

Givem Hell Harry.

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WDRussell, East Liverpool, Ohio — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 12:38:20 GMT

If George rearranges the deck chairs often enough he will finally find someone who agrees with him.

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The Edge, Macon, GA — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:08:26 GMT

A Dubya appointee incompetant?? NO! Really?? How did this happen? After all, GWB has been masterful at surrounding himself with capable and competant aides, advisors and agency heads...Brownie, Rumsfeld, Scooter, Harriet, Paul Bremer, the list goes on

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Al, KS — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:35:52 GMT

Pace as angered me many times by sticking his nose into the political arena, instead of military matters were it belongs. Our military must remain impartial and non-political, not just talking heads for the neocons or anyone else. That being said, Reid stated the obvious, but was wrong. He should understand when he is playing into the Reps hands. The story would have centered on Pace and the conduct of the war...but Reid had to open his big mouth. The Dems need to pick their battles...not creat them where none exist. Even the kool-aid drinkers are abandoning ship, and it doesn't help to give out the ammunition to keep them onboard.

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Really mean it, CA — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 13:56:37 GMT

Realy mad, AZ - the voice of the Bush republican. Thank you - keep posting.

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J Harris, Bella Vista, AR — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 14:01:48 GMT

Peter Pace's timidity before civilian leadership at the Pentagon and the White House demonstrates his incompetence as primary military advisor. This failure is significant to the inadequate support for troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan, and for the loss of capacity and preparedness of the military as a whole. Harry Reid himself is not competent as Senate Majority Leader. He is whiny, weak, and ineffective, in the Daschle tradition, at a time when Democrats, Congress, and the country need wise and fearless leaders. Mr. Reid should step down or be replaced as Leader.

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CJ — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:03:46 GMT

Nobody but the media and conservative talk radio will care about his comments...average joe america could care less. Even I barely know who Pace is..outside of his last name. But Reid is a grouchy old man who probably moderates himself on a daily basis. But the his basic analysis is correct but for the wrong reasons. Pace was following orders, generals rarely rebuke their leaders....as incompetent as their leaders may be.

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Scott in South Texas — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:18:46 GMT

H.R. McMaster, a combat veteren of the Gulf War and the Iraq War, who is still on active duty and might be a one-star by now, wrote a book about the Joint Chiefs during the Vietnam War. This officer, who is also a highly educated military historian, was sharply critical of the JCOS for their failure to stand up to the incompetent and misguided civilian leadership, and for their acquiescence in allowing, and participation in creating, a national catastrophe. The book's title is "Dereliction of Duty". From watching Myers and Pace over the last four years, it's deja vu all over again.

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Jim, Santa Cruz — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:40:57 GMT

The buck stops at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave

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Susan, Miami — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 15:50:40 GMT

already the repubs are losing their minds, bleeding from their noses and tops of heads are exploding!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:07:38 GMT

Now we have liberal officals in Miami trying to suppress free speech. They want to take Rush and hannitty off the air in case of emergency and the goverment has to broadcast news about hurricanes. This is why liberals are so stupid. Do you honestly think while there is an emergency they will continue to broadcast rush and hannitty???? LOL, Susan, your town needs an ennema. From having the most road rage people in the country to having liberal officals that are making themselves look like fools each and every day, Miami is showing why they are the Los Angeles of florida

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HMT — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 16:17:33 GMT

Pace was too busy worrying about the gays to pay any attention to the war.Another one of the Bush psycopaths.

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Jedi vs The Dark Side, Ft Worth, TX — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:16:02 GMT

Hey Jerry, quit sucking the salt water down there in Corpus and trying to breathe from your back side. Oh, I'm sorry, it's not the salty gulf you got your head stuck in, it's Limbaugh's enormous posterior!!! Dang man, do you vacation in Jonestown or what? Quit drinking the wacko cool-aid. No Reid is no saint, I don't even like him in particular. But listening to wacko nazis like Limbaugh (I know you do after calling him dingy harry) makes you just as much of a far out wack as Reid and the far left of the Democratic party. Come on man, you're from Texas. You have to be smart enough to see that this Republican administration has screwed things up worse than any other administration... Republican or Democratic. Here is just a little advice Jerry, from a real Texan, turn off Limbaugh, Hannity, and Levine and take the time to DO SOME RESEARCH before posting quotes from the far right radio Nazis!

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Susan Miami — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:28:20 GMT

Your starting to turn me on again Jerry..are you all sweaty?

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Susan, Miami — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:44:25 GMT

JEERRYY...Hmm I noticed you spelled enema wrong- freudian slip perhaps.

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Jedi vs The Dark Side, Ft Worth, TX — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:58:11 GMT

Susan, if you take into account Jerry's obsession with John Edwards' $400 hair cut... Hmmmmm. Enema happy and Edwards obsessed. Somebody has a crush!

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On Your Side — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:10:20 GMT

Listen, jerry - I want you to know that if Texas wants to secede from the union and become a republic again, or whatever, you have my total support with one caveat - because we stole it from Mexico, they might want it back (I know! God knows why!) in which case you're on your own. And don't expect an open border or entry priveledges.

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Storm Watcher 4 now in HIGH DEF! — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:16:10 GMT

Alright, alright, settle down. Ried didn't really need to call Pace "incompetent," but as Senate Maj leader, he is within his bounds to do so. Usual "tempest in a teapot" right wing radio will keep it alive for a few days as some heinous atrocity - the war is a disaster but let's focus on this one comment about a guy who is already been declared "gone" by the SecDef. Until the next big storm brews.

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Florida Fox — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 18:18:02 GMT

Everybody and his brother thinks they know how to run a war when the only experience they have is shooting off their mouths. That goes double for Harry Reid. He is only good for cannon fodder. Hey Harry, if you know so much where are all of your solutions?

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Food4thought, CA — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:01:16 GMT

A country went to war to overthrow a trannyical government. They had no formal represetnation and had to develop it. They asked for and received foreign assistance from some of the most powerful nations at the time. From the time the war began, to it's ending, ratification of a constitution and agreement on how the government was to be established, and the continuing continuity of the government took 21 years. Of course there were several defeats, thousands of lives lost, scandals, claims of incompetence, traitorism, and questioning of the government's handling of a variety of issues, one thing was a constant - Unity!

Amazing how a country in the modern era is attempting the same thing and is declared a failure in just 4 years, even with the assistance of the most powerful nation on earth. Guess the adage of immediate gratification is the norm now.

The country that took 21 years? The United States of America. Learn your history

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Robb, STL — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 19:59:52 GMT

Food4thought - "They asked for and received foreign assistance from some of the most powerful nations at the time." Iraq didn't ask for our help. The "Decider" simple decided he wanted to invade. There's a difference between "We're not gonna take it any more!!!" and "gee, Ali this sucks."

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Wayne Young, Morristown Tennessee — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 22:04:16 GMT

Robb, STL
"Iraq didn't ask for our help"

You so sure about that?

I seem to remember Iraqi Disidents being butchered by IIS Assasins all over Europe, and the Kurds asking for help against the IIS backed Ansar al-Islam.

The Iraq refugees showing up in western hospitals for treatment of limbs severed by Saddam's fanatics and fitting of prosthetics is still a fairly fresh memory.
Stories of atheletes tortured for weeks for missing practice and Saddam's wackier son kicking old men to death at parties then sending his thugs out to pick up little girls for him seemed to rouse some ire at one time.
Memories are short.
Of course if we'd deposed Saddam earlier some of those 400 thousand plus bodies in the mass graves might have been able to go on with their lives.
The usual copperhead response is , well those killings were years ago.
Fact is the Duelfer report shows that prisoners were being used in Biowarfare experiments up until weeks before the invasion.
Another little tidbit from that report that no one mentions is that Saddam's Biowar scientists had been told to concentrate research on Rotaviruses since they were more effective against Americans because we bathe more often.
That along with Iraq's undeclared long range missile programs were why at least some weapons inspectors said Iraq was in fact more of a threat than we had thought before the invasion.

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Jedi vs The Dark Side, Ft Worth, TX — Fri, 15 Jun 2007 23:26:31 GMT

Food4thought, how naive can you get. There is one, simple yet huge difference in the United States of America at the time of our revolution and Iraq of today. The difference? The will of the people. Yes, those pesky little peasents who have no power or control over government, even over an elected government. The will of the American colonists is the driving force that saw the American revolution thru to its glorious conclusion... the formation of the United States. Yes my friend, it was the people's will... even if their core reasons differed... religion, business, public service, the individual reasons melded together to form a singular, united will for freedom. Now, while I have no doubt that the good people of Iraq crave freedom just as any civilized people would, the fundamental difference between them and the American colonists is their will. The people of Iraq are obviously not ready to be governd by a democracy as the American colonists were. If they were ready, it would have been their will, their choice. They would have been the ones to over-throw Saddam Hussain, most certainly with the help of some of the most powerful nations in the world today. But, sadly, it was not the will of the Iraqi people. It was, finally, the will of just one man. One individual. George W. Bush. You know. Dubbya. Dubbya, the guy who when our airliners crashed into buildings in New Youk, D.C. and a field in Pennsylvania turned to his staff and his first words were "Find the Saddam connection." I know this is hard for so many to accept. Heck, it was hard for me to accept. As I have said in my previous entries, I was a Bush supporter. But it has become impossible to ignore the totalitarian nature of this president and the administration he has put into place. Rather than aiding the will of the Iraqi people (as the French did our fore-fathers) George W. Bush imposed HIS will on the Iraqi people, their nation and in fact the entire region. Now, rather than having allies in the middle east who would have helped us root out and destroy the seeds of terrorism, we now have an entire region of the world who by and large views the United States as the terrorists who impose its will and beliefs on others. Now, rather than allies, our enemies have multiplied by a factor none of us can truly know.

The will of the people my friend. It is a powerful thing. Our history has proven that. But the will of the individual, while powerful in its own right, is a terribly dangerous thing. The will of an individual is the shadow of greed. That is how dictators begin. My friend, do be careful when you refer to history. History is replete with subtle nuances that if left un-noticed, will not give you the whole picture of the way it was... and still is.

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Amy B Portland, ME — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 01:55:53 GMT

"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."

-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush on Clinton sending troops to Kosovo

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

William, Little Rock, Ar. — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 04:52:14 GMT

Bravo Food Food4thought! If my fellow liberals would turn away from the alter of Bush hate and splash some cold water on their faces maybe they would see that what we are trying to accomplish in Iraq is one the great liberal causes of the ages. If a Democract has the guts to stand up to the moveon antidemocractic racist radicals and say that they will bring the troops home -- when they are victorious I will be right there with them. Untill then this liberal will proudly stand with the neocons and the Republicans!

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

shannon, Highlands Ranch, co — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 05:05:40 GMT

Anyone remember Tom Daschle? Next election Reid and Pelosi will answer to the voters. These people are selling the American people down a river!!! Wake up republicans and democrats alike. Do you really agree with these kinds of tactics? Do Americans really want to declare defeat in the Iraq war? They need to truly listen to the people they represent. The last election was not a signal from the people to declare defeat nobody truly wants that what the voters were saying is lets see progress in the war progress towards victory. I have always heard my whole life that you don't want a democrat in office during times of war because they are weak and boy has that been proven. These people need to remember Tom Daschle the big mouth where is he now?

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

jerry/corpus christi texas — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 13:53:10 GMT

You knew mexico was in trouble when 180 texans and others took out half of the 6,000 man mexican army at the Alamo. I could really say something here susan, but it just plays into the socialist plans in here.

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Jim, Santa Cruz — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 14:42:35 GMT

Food4Thought - your comparison of the Iraq War to the American Revolution and your comments on our growing impatience with the war is evidence of the fantasy land where neocons dwell. Learn our history? Where and in which colony were there wholesale executions and slaughter of say Catholics by Protestants? Or how do you compare aspect of oil to anything from 1776? And finally who do you think the Iraqis really view as being the Redcoats? Or perhaps you think our role in Irag is comparable to the French in the Revolution.

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Time to empty the trash — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:57:29 GMT

Garbage brains: what "most powerful nations on Earth" did we ask help from? England? I sure hope you're not going to acknowledge the help of the "surrender monkeys," as the chicken hawks love to call them. Anyway, the French was also warring with England and it suited them to do it in N. America, and we paid the Hessians. Sadam Hussien never asked for our help, so neither one of us has any idea of what you're talking about.

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Well said — Sat, 16 Jun 2007 15:58:56 GMT

Everybody and his brother thinks they know how to run a CONGRESS when the only experience they have is shooting off their mouths.

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Wayne Young, Morristown Tennessee — Mon, 18 Jun 2007 23:49:20 GMT

Jedi:
"Rather than aiding the will of the Iraqi people (as the French did our fore-fathers) George W. Bush imposed HIS will on the Iraqi people, their nation and in fact the entire region."

And how exactly do you explain the Iraqis showing up at the polls in such massive numbers despite suicide bombings and other attempts to subvert the Democratic process?
They voted their present form of government in, and some aspects of it are not entirely to our liking, but we abide by their decision because its their decision to make.
Our Troops are there at the request of the Democractically elected representatives of the Iraqi people.

al-Zarqawi and his ilk made it plain that they hated Democracy and would do anything they could to destroy it.

Reid's criticism of Gen. Pace

Wayne Young, Morristown Tennessee — Tue, 19 Jun 2007 06:25:55 GMT

Time to empty the trash
"Anyway, the French was also warring with England and it suited them to do it in N. America, and we paid the Hessians."
Correction.
The Hessians fought for the British, they were German peasants conscripted by Prussian Princes and their services sold to the British.
"The Treaty of Alliance signed by the United States and France on February 6, 1778, was promptly followed by a declaration of war by Great Britain against the latter, "
Britian went to war against France because the French chose to support the Americans.
The French King had tried to prevent French Volunteers from joining the cause precisely because the British objected.