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Amy B Portland, ME — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:25:16 GMT

Joe Klein has spent the last eight years attacking Democrats and boosting Bush/Cheney policies. He's Time magazine's phoney baloney, token "liberal" and I despise him. I do appreciate Biden's foreign policy views, however, as I think just about anyone who has seen Biden on the Meet The Press would agree, he's a sharp cookie.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:38:41 GMT

For a sharp cookie, he is more nuts then sugar. Haven't heard any more about his "mixers" on the weekend, so I guess that is not working. Kind of hard for Richardson to know about trees when he lives in a state that is more sand then trees. Maybe the Clinton's are trying to end the "feud", but Elizabeth will probably get in a few more jabs. A man who's wife seems to have taken over the campaign makes you wonder if this is Hillary VS Elizabeth instead of John. I hope Biden's new book does not have "borrowed" references.

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MK,MO — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:44:58 GMT

I believe the down fall of hillary will be her political history, is she running as a dem or repub?

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Dave, Tn — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:47:09 GMT

“’This kind of poverty is not an issue I just discovered for the purposes of a campaign, it is the cause that led me to a life of public service almost 25 years ago,’ he said. ‘I was just two years out of college when I first moved to the South Side of Chicago to become a community organizer.’”

OH BURN!!!!! That's gonna leave a mark LMAO

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ladies gossipper — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:10:39 GMT

jerri good gossip about women, lets have cool-aid and tell more gossip.

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Union Baby, Tennessee — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:13:24 GMT

Dave, TN. Not sure what part of TN you live in or how long you have lived here, but I was born here, lived in rural Tennessee all my life and poverty is alive and well and growing every day. You only have to go to the local Help Center to see it in action. These are people who have lost their homes because the factory was closed and moved over seas or because they had a health crisis that their insurance did not cover (you know those shisters - the insurance industry - get to pick and choose what kind of care you get and how much they pay on that care while they laugh all the way to the bank with your premium money every week).
Take a drive out of Germantown (Memphis) or Bellemeade/Brentwood (Nashville) and you will see the real Tennessee. $50,000.00 millionairs moving here every week, sure glad I don't owe $400,000.00 on my home or have a car payment.

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Alan in Phx — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:20:53 GMT

With it such a slow news time where was the the end of senseless deaths tour by old Teddy K. Yesterday was the 35 anniverary of him taking Mary Jo swimming.

He could have gone back to the spot and did a reenactment for the cameras. Showed how he tried so hard to save her, being drunk had nothing to do with his lame effort. He could have followed the path of him running home to daddy so a story and cover up could be planned.

What a non great day in history. Hopefully he was haunted by it last night.

RIP Mary Jo

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Buzz — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:48:10 GMT

Alan digs one up from 35 years ago! Am I bid 40 years? 45? Who'll gimme 50???

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CJ — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:55:31 GMT

Union Baby I don't know what political affiliation you have, but you sound like an old school Democrat. I hope they get back to their roots and show what representing 'Blue collar folk' is all about...and not stock options, unbalanced tax breaks, and corporate interests.

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Amy B Portland, ME — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:56:29 GMT

Good grief, Alan. I imagine Laura Bush thinks about the young man she killed when she ran a stop sign as a teenager, but it would be stupid to dredge that up just to score some kind of partisan point. A car accident is a car accident.

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Ricardo in California — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:13:34 GMT

Poor Laura, the stepford First Lady also has dirty laundry .. i guess the GOP world is not as perfect as Jerry might think ...

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Alan in Phx — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:28:39 GMT

Boy did I strike a nerve! Lighten up people, the comment was to induce thought and perspective. All this over hyped candidate crap is nothing but wasted ink. Fatigue is setting in for all these folks and I am glad that I do not live in Iowa. It must be a pain in the ass to have candidates around all the time doing their staged photo ops.

Oh Amy by the way Laura did not run away from the scene, did not have a powerful daddy to cover her back side and is truely remorsefull about it. A car accident is a car accident, but it turns into negligent manslaughter when you run and hide.
This was not about political points as I am an Ind. it was about history.

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Gil Brandt, Oshkosh, WI — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:48:40 GMT

--->>> Boy did I strike a nerve! Lighten up people, the comment was to induce thought and perspective.

And you thought you would find that here because?

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CJ — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:59:11 GMT

Mary Jo was a family friend of the Kennedy's..she worked for his brother Bobby. Given their history you don't think Ted isn't remorseful to this very day? I just don't think it is relevant as a political topic anymore but for some reason pundits/cynics love to stab old wounds. I heard talk radio drive that very topic into the ground a few weeks ago, i think during his son's incident. IMO it is in the hands of a higher power now.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:12:36 GMT

Now this one was a mistake by Obama. Save your jabs for the frontrunner, not the candidate whose supporters you are hoping shift over to you should he not appear viable come Iowa, lol. In all fairness, it may not have been a jab at Edwards, but given the timing all of Edwards supporters are going to have a hard time believing that.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:15:04 GMT

The Clinton campaign is answering a criticism from John Edwards' wife with a complimentary quote from someone else working for Edwards? That kinda goes into the "huh?" category.

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Gary, Des Moines, IA — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:23:58 GMT

Obama is great, but he should know better when it comes to Edwards and poverty. This isn't something John Edwards just happened upon. Oh well.

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Amy B Portland, ME — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:48:52 GMT

Alan in Phx: Yeah, and George W. Bush was stopped for DUI in Maine some 30 years ago, and he had a Daddy who got him into the National Guard in order to avoid Vietnam, what's your point?

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What?!? — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:28:27 GMT

Jerry is so dreamy.

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Robet Stelling — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:53:40 GMT

I don't need Joe Klein to tell me about Joe Biden. Biden told me all I wanted to know in the first debate. He is not running for President! He wants to be Secretary of State in the Hillary administration. That is when I decided to back Obama. At least he is running for President.

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Alan in Phx — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:23:01 GMT

Amy your anger at Bush is irrational. Bush's DUI did not kill anybody. Second he was in the Guard, unlike Clinton who fled to England. His unit was not called up to Vietnam, he had no control over that, neither did his dad who not president at that time.

The point was to remember an event in history that today would make him totally unelectable and should have then.

Presidents are not kings and he has not done one thing that the congress has not gone along with. I am not enamoured with W in all aspects, but he is our President and come 01/09 we will have another.

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HOT DAM — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:31:02 GMT

I will take Joe Biden as president or VP or even better
Secetary of State! He is the balls!

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Bruce in NV — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 18:31:15 GMT

Johnny sure knows poverty. That's why he went to work for the hedge fund at $650k per quarter, to "learn more about it".

A bigger hypocrite I've yet to see--and I lived in Massachusetts for 30 years.

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H P Boston — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:20:27 GMT

Bruce,Bruce,Brucie, Did you forget ROAMANEY?
Remember he stopped by now again to raise fees and such..you know the guy who went all over running for prez when he was the FREE gov of Ma.
RING a bell? Been gone awhile from Ma.?
HE is a flip flopping HYPOCRITE! Freaking rich too.

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:23:25 GMT

Alan in Phx (Sent Thursday, July 19, 2007 2:23 PM)

Normally I don't respond to such posts and you are wrong on so many things, I can hardly bear it.

However, I do have to set you straight on one thing.

George W. Bush did not "serve" in ANY sense of the word. He signed up for the service and showed up only to play with the airplanes. Others in his unit called him the "poster boy soldier". That is a term of great contempt which is why I am always so surprised when he is portrayed as being supported by the military.

I know this because I know some of those people in that unit. I really don't know what happened to Dan Rather's info on this except it was probably met with Karl Rove's paper shredder.

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Simon Tribe — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:07:51 GMT

%%% Given their history you don't think Ted isn't remorseful to this very day?

Remorseful? Yes. Accountable? No.

%%% I just don't think it is relevant as a political topic anymore but for some reason pundits/cynics love to stab old wounds.

It is what they do. It is done to both/all sides of the political spectrum too. Examples:

Clinton to England
Bush II to the National Guard
Kerry to Cambodia/Laos
Gore is a robot/greenie/fatty/scientist
Hillary with Whitewater records
Bush I to France for secret talks
Reagan is dumb (ed: as a fox)
Biden copies others
Reagan is asleep (ed: resting his eyes)
Obama was on drugs
Reagan is in Bed Time for Bonzo (ed: bad choice on that one)
Edwards has nice hair
Giulani has a bad comb-over
Romney is Morman (BOOO!)
Nader is nuts (this one might be true)
Perot is a weird little guy (this one is true)

Might be best to ignore it all.

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TJ — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:21:26 GMT

"This kind of poverty is not an issue I just discovered for the purposes of a campaign." Oh come on, Obama, you moved to the South Side of Chicago with its poverty in the first place so's you'd have a solid victimologist political base.

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Alan in Phx — Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:47:03 GMT

Ind in tx, you are wrong on this for sure. I said he was in the guard I did not say served. Had his unit been called he would have had to go or go to the brig. And get over Rove would you, he is not the puppet master of the world, your smarter than that.

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Scott in South Texas — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 00:46:10 GMT

If memory serves me correctly, none of the National Guard units were called up to go to Viet Nam; the draft provided all the manpower that was needed. The Guard was the perfect place in which to avoid the draft, because they knew they'd never be exposed to combat in Viet Nam. Because of this, admission to the Guard was very selective and hard to come by, with waiting lists and all that. Unless, of course, your a rich kid with a politically connected father (congressman) who could get the Lt. Gov. to pull strings for his son (gwb). I've often wondered who got bumped off the list because of gwb and got drafted, and what happened to him. That's how bush got into the ANG, and once in he didn't even come close to fulfilling his obligation. Alan is just plain wrong about that, but he is right when he says Rove is not the puppet master of the world. He's the puppet master of the hundred million or so people who voted for bush, and still support him.

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Jeff Morgan, Austin, TX — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:00:48 GMT

I'd say it was likely an honest mistake by Obama's part.

When he says. "This kind of poverty is not an issue I just discovered for the purposes of a campaign..."

I think here he's talking to people who don't know him, and he wanted to let them know his past because people might think he's just all talk and no action. I really don't think he's targeting this as a jab at Edwards, suggesting that Edwards is just doing this for campaigning.

He said something that can come out two different ways in different circumstances. For any candidate, favorable or not, we should be careful not to suddenly all jump on one side.

Obama won't try to hurt Edwards; Obama needs Edwards to win Iowa for the sake of having Hillary not win it.