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Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:17:29 GMT

What in the world??? Will the Clinton campaing stop at nothing to win??? Why do ALL other polls show Obama and Clinton neck and neck in South Carolina, with some polls showing Obama with a comfortable lead??? Someone please tell me that this post was completed made up?? This is laughable!!! I guess the saying is true all is fair in love and war. Also, wouldn't the Obama's internal polling show this as well???? I'm growing quite tired of Hillary Clinton by the minute. She's coming dangerously close to losing my vote is she happens to win the nomination!!!

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Jeanne, Delaware — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:21:22 GMT

I think Obama is bright, articualte and has the capacity to become a president like JFK...but not just now. with the state of the world as it is, we need someone with a huge amount of experience who can hit the ground running. I think either Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden has what it takes.

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Yiannis, Baltimore, MD — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:26:15 GMT

D-Punjab strikes back

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H P Boston — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:27:33 GMT

NO sweat Lewis.

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Timothy(Rochester, NY) — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:31:40 GMT

Lewis, please. I don't think Hillary would risk putting out a poll that is not true. She is probably the most scrutinized person in America at the momment. Polls are takin in different areas of different states and will reflect that certain area of the state. The best thing to do is take an average of the polls to see what's truly happening. You automatically assume Clinton is lying and Obama's campaign is telling the the truth. I am an African-American and this poll shows me exactlty what most of the African Americans think of Obama and Hillary. White America seems to think that African-Americans can't form an informed opinion and will blindly vote for Obama. This is simply not true. I tried to explain this last week when I watched Obama get the most cheers when he was introduced at the NAACP forum, but by the end of the forum Hillary was clearly getting the most cheers. I would just say this, if that poll was not true, Obama's camp would be on every news outlet saying that this poll was false. At least that's what I would have done. She clearly won the debate in SC so it's no surprise to me that she has had her poll numbers go up in SC.

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scott — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:31:52 GMT

amen, lewis. I've decided that if Obama or Richardson do NOT get the nod, I won't vote. People can gripe to me about getting rid of Republican power and not participating, blah blha blah. however, i've been very active in this primary campaign. I've given money, i've been to meetings. I've fulfilled my civic duty and feel knowledgable enough to know I don't want Hillary to win. If she wins the left will be just like the right has been for the past 8 years. No cooperation. a go at it alone mentality. As much as I know a Clinto presidency would align with my political views, I wouldn't vote for her. Ever. Also, I think this poll is crap. In other SC polls, it shows them close and some Obama is winning. I don't it much credit.

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cms — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:36:39 GMT

Call me naive, but I really don't get how polls are skewed depending on who is giving them (Republican, Democrat, Clinton supporter, campaign pollster, etc.). Voters are voters - they are the same no matter who talks to them. I understand that the way you ask the questions skews things, but isn't the point to actually get the real insights? Shouldn't all the pollsters be asking their questions in ways to eliminate bias, not encourage it?

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HMT — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:38:26 GMT

I will vote for any democrat that wins the nomination----I could not stomach one of these lying cowardly republicans that do not give a flying fig about our troops.They would just use them as backdrops same as the evil Bush.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:42:36 GMT

Timothy - Clinton did not win the SC debate, she only won in the eyes of the pundits. After the debate, both a SurveyUSA poll of SC voters and an MSNBC online poll of all voters showed Obama beating Clinton decisively.

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scott — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:44:00 GMT

CMS,

Read this book: How to Lie with Statistics by Darrell Huff. You may not be so naive after that.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:44:33 GMT

I've seen the same poll referenced as a 39-25 Clinton advantage over Obama. Is the reporting on this poll as suspect as the results seem to be?

I also saw the margin of error here is pretty big - 8 percent. I've never seen a margin of error on any published poll so big. So, yeah, I can see where Gupta tweaked things a little.

But even if he hadn't, I'd also add that Obama being 16 points back isn't so bad, given that its June and his opponent has nearly 100 percent name awareness. Of course, with that margin of error it could be as 24 points back, but then again as close as 8 points.

Anyway, the quick reaction by the Obama campaign suggests they are looking at some pretty different internal numbers.

Timothy, I don't share your confidence when you say Clinton wouldn't dare put out fake results when she's under so much scrutiny. Look at this thing with the DoD letter. In a way, Clinton's campaign might be intentionally flooding the news with sorta questionable actions, hoping that its supporters simply get tired of hearing about them and start tuning those kind of stories out all together. Sometimes I think that's what is behind a lot of the irritating things the Bush administration does. Then when people react, the Bush supporters can counter with "y'all just hate Bush, dontcha?"

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Timothy(Rochester, NY) — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:53:36 GMT

Shadow, I should have clarified, that was my opinion and the people I watched it with, of the debate. I haven't seen any polls in SC.

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Mark Murray — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:55:48 GMT

Paul, the 39-25% score included Gore in the mix; 43-27% out. Until Gore gets in, I prefer using the scores without him in the race.

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Mark D Washington DC — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:56:02 GMT

If the democratic nominee for president were Beetlejuice they would still win. The only republican nominee that has any momentum is Ron Paul but the establishment is trying to bury him.
I almost want Hillary Clinton to win the nomination because it makes republicans crazy.

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pservelle — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:56:27 GMT

The lead, 'A Stunning...Poll' and the close, '...poll owned by Clinton supporter...'. What if the close was at the top and the lead at the bottom? Well, Jeanne, Timothy? And what about you First Read?

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Dale, Denver — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:00:43 GMT

Why is it assumed that black voters will automatically vote for the black candidate? Are the black Democrats of South Carolina not allowed to think for themselves and decide they prefer Clinton to Obama? It that really so unthinkable?

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Timothy(Rochester, NY) — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:01:11 GMT

Paul,
I will just say this about the DOD letter. The letter isn't as scathing as the media partrayed it.(Maybe the media should do their homework before reporting it) But the letter does tell Clinton that anyone who talks about withdraw is hurting the troops and the Iraqis. They are telling the American people not to exercise their right to speak out in a democracy. You know, the same thing our troops are fighting for.

By the way, that margin of error in that poll is pretty high. I didn't notice that.

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Ashe, SF, CA — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:05:14 GMT

Once again HRC will stop at nothing to deceive the public? Someone please explain to me what type of "experience" does HRC have to qualify as president? 8 years as First Lady doesn't count, either. I agree with Lewis in that I'm growing sick of Hillary by the second...and I'm getting sick of how the media refuses to ask her the tough questions about her so-called experience.

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J Varkey, Durham, NC — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:06:54 GMT

This poll is a joke. The sampling error is +/- 8 percent!!! A coin-flip would be a better predictor....

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George, Seattle — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:06:56 GMT

It might also be interesting to note Bill Clinton has been paid $200,000 for a speech at Info USA on 7/27/2001. He is also a paid consultant for that company.

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Lewis, Cincinnati, — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:08:07 GMT

Well Timothy I am also african american and I didn't realize that "white" america and "black" america were exclusively independent of one another??? WTF??? I'm not sure where to even begin because I find your post a little contradictory. You state on one hand that "white" america, whatever that is, thinks that all of "black" america supports Obama because they cannot make informed opinions. What gives you the right to say that "white" america thinks that way??? How in the world do you begin to even know how a group of people even think?? I find that type of thinking old fashioned and just plain wrong!!!

I'm 35 so I remember the 90s quite well. I don't think I'm alone when I say I'm not sure I want the circus known as the Clinton administration back in Washington.

Lastly, I don't put any dirty trick pass any campaign (including Obama's),but especially Hillary Clinton's. What's her famous line..when someone attacks you must deck them out.... ?? I think that speaks volumes of the type of campaign she's running and how she will lead this country. It's very close to our current president's and look where that has gotten us??? You're from New York---I would think that you wouldn't be that naive.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:11:34 GMT

Oh, thanks Mark. Makes sense. Also I glanced at what I wrote... I do realize its July, lol.

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H P Boston — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:11:48 GMT

NO sweat Scott.

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George, Seattle — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:28:48 GMT

I have a hard time trusting Hillary when her husband rakes in $41 million giving speeches in front of interest groups. He made $300,000 from the "Austrailian Council for the Promotion of the Peaceful Reunification of China" which is of course a front for the Chinese government. He made $1.25 million from real estate lobby groups while Hillary was introducing real-estate related bills. He spoke in front of Chinese export companies while Hillary was introducing bills to reduce tariffs.

This is all in Hillary's Senate disclosure forms, which I presume are more-or-less accurate now. Her first campaign director was indicted for lying about the campaign disclosures, and her campaign had to pay a fine to the Federal Elections commission.

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George, Seattle — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:28:49 GMT

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Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:31:57 GMT

ARG has very very similar numbers (with a larger sample to boot) in their poll, which was the last one taken before the CNN poll.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres08/scdem8-705.shtml

Obama camp better stop laughing and giggling like school girls and start playing for real. They are down. They are not leading in a single early state. I am not sure that Obama realizes that he can't win the nomination on a nice suit and a good speech alone. He has to win more votes than the other candidates.

Lastly, anyone who suggests that a major league polling operator working for CNN would cook the books is simply waaay off base.

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Wm. Jeff. Clntn — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:38:05 GMT

...and the Mrs. Edwards husband is in third, in his home region. This is the guy who is "more electable"!

The Dems are going to so crash and burn next year---the aftermath of their surrender will drag them down. As would the fact that, no matter what they tell pollsters, there are LOTS of americans (a majority?)who wouldn't vote for a woman or a black for president.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:39:18 GMT

I still think it's too early for polls to be meaningful. As far as not understanding how they can be skewed, it's really simple - the language of the question. You can ask the same thing many different ways, and each way is designed to evoke a specific response. For example, with the Iraq issue, one poll may ask "should the U.S. make plans for withdrawing the troops from Iraq" while another poll may ask "should the U.S. abandon Iraq?" and the results to both may be phrased in terms of the percentage of people who support the war. Pollsters are sophisticated linguists, who know exactly how to word a question to get the answer they want. I'm not saying all polling services do this, but it is something to be aware of when examining results.

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scott — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:42:57 GMT

Dick(ie),
Unfortunately, ARG is worse than the aforementioned poll. If you look at all of ARG's polls in all the states, they have Obama way behind, more so than other polls. I'm not exactly how they are polling, but obviously, ARG is not a reliable sourse as compared to others.

I don't mean to discredit any poll that doesn't look good for Obama. I know truth when I see it, but in reality, polls really aren't important for many reasons. first, it's entirely too early to worry about them and second I don't trust their methods. For instance, they can only poll people who have land lines. As speaking as a young professional, I can tell you many young people don't have land lines--only cell phones, therefore, we would never be polled. I think that's the very audience Obama is energizes, but it won't be reflected in the polls. Just some food for thought.

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Dave, Tn — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:43:38 GMT

That only leaves the question which old Clintonista owns or runs ARG?

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Ryan, Michigan — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:46:14 GMT

Mark D - As a registered Republican who is actually quite upset and disappointed with his party, I would like nothing more then to have Hillary be the Democratic nominee. Nothing brings the right-wing nutjobs out of the woodwork more then a Clinton and since Bill's unable to run and Chelsea's (sp?) not old enough Hillary is the only option. If Hillary ran, the reaction from the right-wing nutjobs would be similar to the reaction from the moonbats on the left if Cheney was the Republican nominee.

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Asad — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:56:45 GMT

Anyone remember how Kerry was faring in these polls this early? No one would have guessed that he would become the nominee. Eventually though, he consolidated all of the "Anyone-but-Dean" votes and came out on top.

Right now the polls show that there are certainly more people picking "someone other than Clinton" than people picking Clinton. So Dicky Flatts, I think Obama is justified in laughing at the moment.

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Aidyn, NY, NY — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 18:59:53 GMT

GOOO HILARRY!!

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Darnell Clayton, SC — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:02:55 GMT

Although I don't like either candidate, I can say (from living in SC) that Obama is THE TALK of the democratic candidates.

Hillary has some appeal, but the most I've heard about her is that she is "electable," but when you bring up Obama you can see the people's eyes light up.

I'd have a hard time believing this report, but then again, the only polls that matter are on election day, and the political primaries.

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Dickie Flatts — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:04:23 GMT

Don't like Opinion Dymanics. Don't like ARG.

Well if you average all the polls guess what? The result is the same. Any way you look at it (unless you cherry one poll out of 10) Obama is down big in SC.

http://www.pollster.com/08-SC-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

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george, seattle — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:04:28 GMT

Here is Mason Dixon from June: Obama %34, Clinton %25. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/06/18/politics/p093040D46.DTL&type=politics

This is all rather silly at this point. Forget the percentages and look at the actual numbers. The ARG poll shows that Clinton leads by 96 people. This is in a state with a population of four million! THen they have the gall to try to do crosstabs -- which have an even higher margin of error.

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H P Boston — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:07:45 GMT

RYAN the war can and has changed that as many of the boys killed over there are sons and grandsons of the rural right. They really want the war to end don't ya think?

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George,seattle — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:10:55 GMT

Funny trivia: Bill Clinton made $100,000 from Financial Innovations, inc -- owner of campaignstore.com which supply buttons and bumper stickers to both Edward's (and Hillary's) campaigns!

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Poll Numbers — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:12:23 GMT

Are people starting to catch on about what all these poll numbers mean now? Hint: Not Much!

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The Judge — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:13:58 GMT

" I don't think Hillary would risk putting out a poll that is not true."

Who would hold her accountable if she did?

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:15:28 GMT

The thing with ARG is that it almost almost contradicts every other primary poll, and gives Hillary Clinton at least a five or ten point bump relative to what every other poll at the time is saying. Whatever the reason for that "Hillary bump", even if it's completely innocent, the ARG primary poll has established itself as a consistent outlier which shouldn't be included in polling averages because it skews the those averages in an unbalanced fashion. Pundits then report stories and establish narratives based on those averages, and it becomes a perpetually self-reinforcing cycle; this was already bothersome enough a trend with the ARG numbers skewing the averages, let alone new numbers by a polling firm owned by someone who has a vested financial inteerst in the winner of the poll.

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DR — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:21:10 GMT

Timothy,

I highly doubt that you are being forthright. I am not out right calling you a bold faced liar, but , as an African American who is very active in the blogosphere, I have come across and exposed several poster claiming to be African American and speaking on behalf of all African Americans. I have ran their IP Addresses and found their e-mails. Then after running their names and doing some research, I find out that they are the exact opposite of what they were portraying on the Internet. Let me make this clear. I don't suspect you because of your name because I have a very "Anglo/English" name myself, but what I do suspect is your claim that the poll reflects the attitude of African Americans you know. In New York. In New York. In New York. This is not the first time , Clinton supporters have posted comments bashing Barack Obama as an African American and them claiming that this is the common attitude of Blacks. It doesn't work. So, if you are faking it, I will just say this: It's not going to work. If you are not faking it, I would just say that you are one delusional brutha if you think, for a second , that Hillary won that SC debate and you are stuck on the Plantation of you think for a second that 24 percent of African Americans will not vote for Barack Obama under ANY circumstances.

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Kristian O — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:27:58 GMT

ARG is a biassed poll FOR Hilary. Now InfoUSA. Every poll has Edwards leading in Ohio by anywhere from 1-7 pts, yet they have her ahead in Iowa by 5. Please. Now we have the same version of polling in SC where all I've heard is how much they love Obama there. What a joke. It'll all play itself out in another 5-7 months anyhow when the real focus kicks in. All this window dressing is about raising money.

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Lyn, Silver Spring, MD — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:32:44 GMT

What I don't understand is why someone doesn't call CNN to task on this relationship. Where are the Bloggers who have been known to call attention to these things and make an impact on public discourse. As long as they can get away with it they will. It is geared towards people who don't pay close attention and just listen to TV soundbites

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Sierra. San Francisco — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:43:36 GMT

Jeanne, Delaware: With all their 'experience', Hillary, Biden and Dodd ALL VOTED TO ATTACK AND OCCUPY IRAQ ! Hillary voted AGAINST Sen. Levin's amendment to ask the President to exhaust diplomatic means before invading Iraq.

How did Hillary's, Biden's or Dodd's 'experience' help them make a wise decision ? What makes you think they'll make wise decisions in the future ?

You might want to consider integrity and wisdom, as well as experience, because Hillary and Biden have neither. They both (irresponsibily) voted to send troops to die in order to look 'strong' and 'presidential'.

A majority of Senate Democrats voted AGAINST the Iraq war. It's only the most irresponsible and opportunistic of the Senate Democrats who voted for an unprovoked attack on Iraq.

Hillary can't win the Presidency !! Why hand the 08 election over to the Republicans for a self-serving opportunist ?

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Steve, San Diego — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:47:59 GMT

Let's play a math 'what if' game for a few seconds. If you give Senator Obama the eight point spread in this poll, that cuts Senator Clinton's lead to 5%. If Senator Obama closes within this 5% margin, or actually wins the SC primary, then his camp rightfully can claim victory. These number reports are interesting at first, but ultimately must be judges after the primary. We have a long, long way to go before next February and March. Better polls, indeed more accurate polls will be forthcoming. This holds true for the GOP race.

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Kristian O — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 19:52:02 GMT

I meant Iowa for Edwards, not Ohio. Pardon Me.

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Lewis Cincinnati, Ohio — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:08:04 GMT

Not sure what pundit I heard this from (may have been on MSNBC) but they posed the question if Hillary Clinton were not in this race would you wish that she were??? I don't get the impression the answer would be yes for many americans--regardless of their political opinion.

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Lenny Squire — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:08:41 GMT

Hillary can't win the Presidency !!

Finally, a voice of reason.

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jtb — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:23:50 GMT

All this tempest in a teapot: waste of time.

No matter WHO wins the Democrat nomination, you are ALL still going to vote for him/her, no matter WHAT you think of them as politicians. You cannot do otherwise. You are all robots when it comes to the Democrat party. That's how you almost always win Presidential elections, except when your free-thinking wing finds someone like Ralph to vote for, or the Republicans get out of their stupor, and run someone who isn't a blue-nosed country club Republican, and energize the conservative vote.

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Dee of VA — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:50:34 GMT

DR,
DR,

Let me co-sign! I can't say if Timothy is faking his race but he's most certainly 'fakin' the funk.' Not even Al Sharpton has ever gone so far to say he speaks for all Black folks. To his assessment of Senator Obama's reception (before and after) at NAACP Presidential Forum in Detroit, MSNBC and every other media outlet reported that Senator Obama was the shining star of the forum. I watched it and can attest that he received the same thunderous cheers when he exited as when he entered. Visit the NAACP.org site and judge for yourself. Moreover, the swell of African American Obama supporters outside of the forum--who couldnt' get in--reflected that as well. But let's give poor Timothy a break. Picking cotton all day in the blistering sun is bound to make anyone dillusional.
What I find suspect about the poll is the reported 15% of African Americans who would not vote for Senator Obama under any circumstances. The one thing consistent in all of the polls being conducted, state-by-state and nationwide, is that Senator Obama has the least negative ratings of any candidate. He garners the largest percentage of voters who say that want to learn more about the candidate before deciding. In that context, only a neglible number of voters have ruled out voting for him altogether. They may not be leaning toward him, but they haven't completely ruled out voting for him. That said, I find it highly improbable that 15% of African Americans in one single state would not vote for him under any circumstances. That number alone makes me question the validity of the entire poll.

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Lyn, Silver Spring, MD — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:54:14 GMT

JTB dont' bank on it. I won't vote for Hillary. Any other Democratic candidate I will. I would vote for nader first. I would consider Romney before her he's a democrat anyway in drag

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.......... — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:58:25 GMT

Remember how the exit polls showed Kerry winning in 04? hint: We rightwing people lie to pollsters for fun.

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Dee of VA — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:00:00 GMT

Lyn,

CNN, MSNBC and most of the major media outlets have all but ignored the Clintons' relationship with Vinod Gupta and Rupert Murdoch. InfoUSA collects the names and financial information of elderly Americans, many suffering from alzheimer's and dementia, and sells them to predatory mortgage lenders who prey on the elderly convincing them to sign up for equity loans--no strings attached--but the strings are actually the whole house. Why would someone who engages in such heinous business practices hesitate to cook poll numbers? Maybe MSNBC, CNN et al will take a break from annointing Senator Clinton the next president and start focusing on her and her husband's questionable business dealings. I'm not suggesting they put them under a political microscope, just give it as much attention to the distorted claims that Senator Obama advocates explicit sex education to 5 year olds.

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Lyn, Silver Spring, MD — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:34:53 GMT

Dee, I couldn't have said it better. MSNBC are you listening? I know you are (smile). Don't forget they want to get in good with them, so that means looking the other way.

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F.Igwealor — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:17:47 GMT

The CNN is now the Clinton News Network.

And Gupta would want to see Clinton win or else Obama would remove the tax-incentive for companies that took jobs away from Americans and offshore them to India.

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Ben Yolk — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:56:47 GMT

I'm responding to Timothy (Rochester, NY) who claims that Whites think that Blacks cannot form an informed opinion and will blindly vote for Obama. Please get rid of that complex. You remind me of Jesus who came and was rejected by his own people the Jews. Pardon my comparison but my advice to you is that if Blacks like you continue to feel you are being descriminated upon by Whites, then maybe Obama is the one to either prove that notion wrong(He has a lot of White backing)or bring racial harmony. I think you should just pay attention his plans than start imagining what Whites think about you. Reason out loud!

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ALS, Los Angeles, CA — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:57:04 GMT

Yes Bill Clinotn did a lot for Blacks...no welfare, NAFTA (say good bye to your job at your local plant that you have worked for twenty years), Rwanda (need a reminder of what happened there). I am African American and educated enough to know that Obama is right this bitter politics needs to go. The government can't do anything because theya re stuck on donkeys and elephants. Anyone who thinks Hillary is going to cross the aisle please pass me what you smoking.

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ALS, Los Angeles, CA — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:57:11 GMT

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David, Chattanooga, Tn — Fri, 20 Jul 2007 23:09:12 GMT

These early polls don't mean much......Edwards will win the nomination.

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Bee — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 01:20:26 GMT

This clinton machine think they can brain wash us, let alone shield the American people from the truth. I suspect CNN is helping in this false propaganda by releasing a poll that is totally one sided. This is what i called "Clinton's Psychological Campaign" - it will not work on us.

The conflict of interest between the pollster and the clinton machine is totally evident. The people of South Carolina, please, don't fall for this Cinton's psychological warfare. Reject every inauthentic candidates that comes your way. Clinton's machine is a joke!!!

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Phil, Colorado Springs CO — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 03:31:36 GMT

InfoUSA is the outfit that was selling mailing lists targeting lederly people regarded as vulnerable to sales pitches.
-They gave $$$ to Bill Clinton and bought his silence.
-They gave $$$ to Miss Hillary and bought her silence.
-They hired Paul Pelosi to a high-paying position for which he had no discernable qualifications and bought Popeye Pelosi's silence.
-And Big Media isn't gonna say a thing, only Rush Limabaugh and Dems don't listen to him so the nomination is hers.

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Satya, Chicago, IL — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 05:02:22 GMT

Vinod Gupta hired Bill Clinton as a consultant to the tune of $3 million. That in addition to use of the corporate jet and other favors are part of the reason why shareholders are suing "Vinnie".

The close tie of a poll owner to a candidate is suspicious enough to take these with a large dose of salt.

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Jeff Morgan, Austin, TX — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:08:35 GMT

I think there is a point here not being brought up:

Barack Obama's campaign aren't trying to win polls today. What they are concerned about is the polls by the end of January (after the first primary states, before Feb. 5). And thus what they are looking at is indicators to the polls then, hence their comfortability with their expansion of "grassroots efforts." They're getting their ducks in a row to affect the polls then; they're not fighting for polls today.

Hillary is now running the reverse campaign, fighting for high marks in the polls now, hence the dvd's, Bill with her in NH, etc. It really doesn't matter if these polls are valid or not. To judge Hillary vs. Obama, we'll honestly have to wait to see the direction of Obama's polls in January, when his campaign will be hitting on all cylinders with all their preparations, when votes are actually going to be taken.

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Harry — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:12:06 GMT

Hillary Clinton is so scared because for the first time she realizes that she is not going to win. So what you end up with is bunk like this.

She cannot win Iowa. She will not win South Carolina. Because I believe that Edwards will fizzle out by the Iowa caucus, I think Obama will win that. That will spark a revolution, giving him New Hampshire as well. South Carolina will be his, no doubt (wait until Jesse Jackson gets real involved down there).

From there on out, it is all momentum (remember John Kerry). Ignore those stupid national polls. THEY MEAN NOTHING. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! Follow the money, donor numbers, and electoral enthusiasm.

OBAMA!!!!

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Lynn Nelson, Pine Bluff, AR — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 20:27:49 GMT

I can't believe everyone who supports Obama so strongly. He was adamant he would run a clean campaign but when the dirt was tracked directly back to his campaign employees not once, but twice, he gave lip service only. If he was as moral as he claims it wouldn't have happened. You can talk about Hillary as much as you want (and I'll grant you until u tube Obama looked good to me too) but the same games are being played by Obama. He just hasn't been in the public eye as long. Everyone should make their decisions about the candidates abilities, not tactics, because it obviously is tit for tat with both of them. Personally he scares me. Anyone who came up so fast and so furious must owe a lot of favors and I wonder what those favors are?

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Giancarlo, Cambridge, MA — Sat, 21 Jul 2007 23:14:32 GMT

A good indicator that polls don't mean much at this point is that the Mason/Dixon poll has Obama beating Hillary by 9 points in South Carolina and over on the GOP side, the three different companies polling SC each have a different candidate up.

A stunning South Carolina poll

Jim, Santa Cruz — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 04:00:29 GMT

Obama and Edwards are going to give Hillary a good run for her money. This race is going to be decided at the convention not by silly polls.

A stunning South Carolina poll

Al, KS — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:57:39 GMT

It is worth noting that InfoUSA not only pays the Clintons,,,,he has also hired Pelosi's son...I wonder how many other Democrats have ties to this organization? How many Republicans? This would be worth some ivestigative reporting.

A stunning South Carolina poll

Joe, DC — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 20:57:04 GMT

If Obama has poll results that refute these, why doesn't he just lay them on the table?

A stunning South Carolina poll

Lou, Mississippi — Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:39:20 GMT

The South Carolina poll was done by Opinion Research, a company owned by Vinod Gupta, owner of Info USA. Bill Clinton is a paid advisor to Info USA and has allegedly (in court documents) been paid over $3,000,000 in consulting fees. Part of the $41 million that he made since leaving office was a speech before Info USA -- for $200,000. So this is basically a poll by a company about one of their employees.

The poll is quite shady. They interviewed over 1000 people and selected 380 of the responses. Breaking it out you have:

148 people for Clinton
95 people for Obama
57 for Edwards
38 for Gore
11 for the other candidates

A stunning South Carolina poll

John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 04:02:28 GMT

I find this poll VERY hard believe. Especially the stat about blacks who would definatly not vote for Obama compared to Hillary. Im black and I dont know ANY black dem who would definatly not vote for Obama and Im very politically active. Most blacks simply dont know where he stands. Others (believe it or not) dont even know hes black yet. I GUARANTEE Obama will pull at least 60% of the black vote in the end..That you can take to the bank.

If Hillary wins Ill likely vote republican. The 28 year Clinton-Bush era needs to be put to rest..

A stunning South Carolina poll

Amy B Portland, ME — Mon, 23 Jul 2007 16:51:15 GMT

We need more information on which Democratic candidate Independents will support. There is no way I am living through another four years of Republican mis-rule. Independents: make your opinions HEARD, I'll support whichever Democrat in the primary you'll agree to vote for in the general election.

A stunning South Carolina poll

Phads A. Unte — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:33:55 GMT

i cannot vote in a presidential election in america cause i am not an american citizen but electing a president in united states is a very important in this planet. Since United States is the most powerful nation in the world all countries is focus on the result of this election. But for myself if i can vote I will vote Hillary Clinton for president.

A stunning South Carolina poll

Phads A. Unte — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:35:34 GMT

A stunning South Carolina poll

rodney, venice, ca — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:06:30 GMT

you want someone who will tell you what you wanna hear, then walk down the street and tell them what they wanna hear and so on, and so on... then vote for hillary. you want someone who will work tirelessly in support of the everyday joe, someone who has spent a life in the trenches working for change instead of grasping for power? then you might wanna vote for obama. simple as that. i love BILL CLINTON, but hillary is no bill folks.

A stunning South Carolina poll

Crackhead Obama Hater — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:11:13 GMT

Clinton has taken on the republicans for years and keeps winning. They have thrown everything they could at her and she is still the Best canidate in the race.
She can win and has republicans scared so will. Republicans however love the notion of facing a man with a troubled past and drug history who has not even a full single year of office experence and if were not careful and Elect the only Democrat who can win in Clinton then we will be forced to sit and watch the republican machine tear down a crackhead with no experience.
Crackheads should not be even on the Ticket. Obama is a Crack head just goggle it He admits it.
Clinton in 2008

A stunning South Carolina poll

First year senator is a crackhead no experience. — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:21:16 GMT

A stunning South Carolina poll

adnaw6 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:05:33 GMT

I belive there should be a law that once your impeached, and get kicked out of the whitehouse! you cant bring your self or your family back in! under no circumstances. what if theres another scandle? we shouldnt risk it, the other countries are laughing at us for even considering having a woman run the country

A stunning South Carolina poll

adnaw6 — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:08:12 GMT

people are saying one thing in the polls and getting in the booth and voting differently

A stunning South Carolina poll

Christopher — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 18:58:09 GMT

Well we know that she is going to have problems now in S.C. She won't win...Obama's leading now......To all you pundits. We got the most delegates even though she won the most votes...in Nevada, Obama carried the most County's. Well see you you in S.C. with an Obama win.