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Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:32:51 GMT

GONZO-GATE...IT JUST WILL NOT FADE AWAY.

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Amy B Portland, ME — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:37:08 GMT

How did two such inferior men become our President and Vice President? Their idea of competency is hopelessly skewered. Perhaps its because they rose to prominence by exploiting others, rather than by creating successful businesses. Wealthy people and those from wealthy families are not automatically corrupt. Warren Buffet and Bill Gates are billionaires and still functionally ethical human beings. Would Warren Buffet praise an aide for being an excellent liar? Would Gates keep an employee whose projects continually failed? Doubtful. How is it the heads of our government are such jackals?

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Zorro — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:43:44 GMT

***See Impeach Gonzales Blog below...with over 220 responces to date. Gonzo-Gate it just will not fade away.Call ,write your elective officials demanding immediate impeachment proceedings begin.

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not Zorro da blade — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:48:44 GMT

Did I hear someone whisper 'gonzo gate'.
Quick someone go get Zippy a cup of coffee.

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Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:55:38 GMT

G O N Z O G A T E I T W I L L N O T J U S T F A D E A W A Y. Hi! Karl

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yes I'm laughing at you. — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:58:10 GMT

Another day of watching Liberals running around in circles trying to bite each others farts in the air.
It's a great country!!!!

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Ken"WE hardly new ye O" — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:58:26 GMT

Much like George bush we(democrats) are all fans of gonzo .This cant be good for the law and honor party but if arlen (sound and fury )spector wants this guy around to help with getting elected then thats who represents you. All the better for dems >Remember foley,he was great for the 06 elections .

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Zorro — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:03:13 GMT

Just a reminder ,the "pen" is mighter than the sword.

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Dave, AZ — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:04:46 GMT

Hey Dick, go *#@k yourself.

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Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:18:03 GMT

It's time for Gonzo-Gate !

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mikeeg,abdn,wa — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:20:04 GMT

remember cheney is the one who keeps saying the insurgency is in its last throes so anything he says falls into the same catogory of being completly WRONG.

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Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:23:12 GMT

Hey Gonzo, what ever happened to Mark Foley ?

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Gene,Mead,Wash — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:41 GMT

Come on, people. Cheney can't be all bad. When he's quail hunting he gets drunk first to give the quail a sporting chance.

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juan,ft lauderdale,fl — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:35:55 GMT

Darth Vader not only needed a battery replacement...the man lacks a conscious, soul and ampathy. The man is pure evil.

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Flat-earther, Georgia — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:42:37 GMT

One of the leaders of the Party of law, order and values.

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Brian, Cedar Hill, TX — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:46:36 GMT

Perfectly named - Dick.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:57:39 GMT

Still trying to figure out what the AG should be impeached for. Typical left wing responses to this item so far, How about a real debate? What has he done to bring an impeachment charge against him. So far, all the talking heads, lib and GOP, have said there will not be an impeachment against him.

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Buzz — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:15:38 GMT

Dems may be biting at farts, but remember- the farts are the aromatic products of the 'solids', a photo of which appears above.

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Debator — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:18:40 GMT

"What has he done to bring an impeachment charge against him. " A large number of people in Congress seem to feel he might have lied to them, under oath. That would be a crime. Have you a rebuttal?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:23:45 GMT

what was the lie?

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BBGun1, Jacksonville — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:26:35 GMT

Debator: I think a lot of members of Congress lie constantly. They always have. They say everything to fit their agenda. Leihy and Shumer have no room to talk. Their names are not Jesus Christ either.

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Debator — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:39:42 GMT

Excellent, Jerry. I'll just prove therr case right-here right-now to your satisifaction, or I lose the debate. Try to understand: Lying to Congress is a crime. THEY think he's lied. A TRIAL will establish whether or not that is so. Mind like a steel trap - rusted shut.
BBGun1 - every sin has been committed. That means we can repeat them to our heart's content? Is that your appeasment argument to ignore crimes against the Constitution while we fight our glorious fight against terrorism and the "haters of our freedoms"?

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Union Baby, Tennessee — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:46:51 GMT

Everyone lies, even Jerry CC probably does sometimes, however, when you lie under oath it is considered criminal in our society. Does not really matter much what that lie is, but under oath to congress, a judge, the grand jury or a regular jury it is against the law. Don't care who does it, if you do it then you should be impeached, fired, and/or have charges brought against you.
That is why so many repugnants refuse to testify before Congress - they all would either have to take the 5th (and everyone knows that means you are guilty) or lie under oath. I think that is what will bring down this house of cards - starting with Gonzo.

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Amy B Portland, ME — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 15:58:05 GMT

jerry, have you seen Gonzales testify in front of Congress????? He says he takes responsibilty for the firing of apparently competent Attorneys, but has no idea how the list was drawn up or what criteria was used for terminating these people. Imagine the administrator of a hospital firing top specialists without explanation, or a team owner firing a winning coaching staff. Yes, its legal to fire employees at will, but when the manager is called in front of the board to explain the firings he better have SOME explanation. He can't use the excuse, "well, I only have to answer to my President." Not when the board consists of the People of the United States and those elected to represent them. "I don't know why I fired these Attorneys" is not an acceptable answer from the manager of the United States Justice Department. All we hear from him is "I don't know, I don't recall, I know I made mistakes but I can't tell you what they are..." In the business world a manager like this would be fired. In the governmental parlance, he needs to be impeached.

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jerri fan — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:11:42 GMT

hey jerri knows gonzo is lying but because of her politics jerri will never admit it. go girl you the perfect repub woman.

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Mark Y; Westlake Village, CA — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:15:04 GMT

for anyone who cannot figure out that gonzo's testimony is in conflict with the FBI director and other govt witnesses, I have some swanpland in FL with a ton of hanging chads for sale. Union Baby has the right idea...sort it out in a court of LAW, which in this case would be congress as spelled out in the Constitution.

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kim, crofton, md — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:24:20 GMT

Gonzo lied about the reasons the attys were fired, lied about the extent of his knowlege of the firings and lied about WH involvement in the firings. He also lied about whether or not there was disagreement in the Justice Dept over the warrantless wiretapping program, and lied about his involvement in the 90's in getting then Governor Bush removed from a jury set to hear a drunk driving case.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:26:26 GMT

What did he lie about?

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RH Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:26:45 GMT

"I, uh, never had no relations with that women".
"I never inhaled".
"I did not have inside information on the WhiteWater deal"
Anything sounding familiar?
And I bet we will hear more of the same from the jerk(R) up in Alaska. They ALL do it, so the vitrolic spewing at either one party or the other alone, is pure hypocritic bs. Most of the Democratic investigations(280+) are nothing but soundbite trolling. If they want to get info on the easedropping, do it with a closed door committee. We are talking about classified information, they can get nowhere in a public Cspan format. Just digging for soundbites.

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PJ — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:33:55 GMT

Just like I've tried to teach my children, If you base something on a lie, it will eventually fail.

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Still Crazy After All These Years — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:42:00 GMT

Gonzales sings to Cheney "Like a dog like a dog, I leap with joy when you call my name, call me a good boy I wish I had a dog's heart instead of this one For I have loved you like a dog I have loved you like a dog"-"Like A dog"-Greg Brown

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Don in LA — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:47:15 GMT

jerri fan..if jerri of cc is the perfect repub woman, then I guess she must be working for the DC madam, looks like Ann Coulter and listens to O'Liely. Her posts really seem to substantiate that.

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Buzz — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:52:48 GMT

Debator- welcome to the blog today. You seem to speak with much common sense and wisdom- be prepared to be peppered by some truly ignorant folks, here.

Jerri fan- You think she's at least pretty??

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Jim, Santa Cruz — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:57:30 GMT

The 2006 election allowed the democrats to proceed with these investigations in both houses of Congress. This is how the will of the people will be carried out for now. The attorney general has apparently lied under oath, so he can be impeached. A trial will be necessary to flush out the truth, of course he could resign, but as has been discussed before, a new AG will uncover more problems and will face the same decision of telling the truth or not. This is all very depressing especially when you throw in the fiasco in Iraq, the Katrina bungling and the myriad of other illicit, illegal and immoral acts conducted by this administration and its supporters. And I understand that there are bad democrats who did bad things, but the shear magnitude of the corruption and dishonesty prevalent on the republican side is almost unbelievable, except we know it to be true. I hope we will see soon a large group of moderate republicans reach across the aisle and come to advocate the progressive changes that are needed to preserve the integrity of their party and our country.

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RH Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:39:44 GMT

Why is it automatic that Gonzalas is in the wrong? Could not the FBI man be the one who is?

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BBGun1, Jacksonville — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:08:10 GMT

Jim: You just lost all hope of any Republicans helping Democrats when you threw in that word "Progressive", cover word for Liberal. There has been corruption in politics as long as I have lived. ALL POLITICIANS LIE!!!! They all are full of it. Nothing is going to happen to this man, get over it.

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RH Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:23:36 GMT

Yes, BBGun1. But the investigations are like white noise to cover the deafening silence that is the sound of what the Democratic House has actually managed to accomplish.

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ken:good for the goose"O — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:24:44 GMT

the lie is that the lawyers worked at the pleasure of the president ,well he didnt even know who or why they had been fired ,he still dont know maybe monica goodling can tell the president why they got fired then tell gonzo cause he dont know .And just because you dont think sexual relations is oral sex when you lie in a deposition it is perjury,which is why we impeached the president so if thats a lie so is the ashcrofft theory that gonzo is floating that muller and comeby and ashcrofft himself will tell you gonzo is a liar.

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ken"ALL TOGETHER NOW"O — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:31:17 GMT

your right RH everybody steals I guess I should to NOT. It is ourselves not another which we find so corrupt,check the mirror before you include me in on that line up,there are good men and woman everywhere some evil people would rather you think that everyone is bad not so you probanbly arent bad to have abeer with we just wouldnt talk politics ,you see how easy it is to get along .I work with people that belive differently from me ,but if they didnt what would we talk about on break UNITED WE FALL

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RH Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:55:53 GMT

Sorry Ken, I scrolled back through this whole postings, and I can only say "HUH".

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HP Boston — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:57:00 GMT

Holy crap ! I am sick of this drivil, no wonder the repukes are underwater. Hey Ken when you get sober come on back. Can not understand a thing you are posting.

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Richard, Washington State — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:06:59 GMT

Jim: If the "sheer magnitude of the corruption and dishonesty prevalent on the republican side is almost unbelievable", aren't you just a little silly to hope that a large group of moderate republicans will reach across the aisle? Or magically become pure, saintly "progressives"? How could that possibly happen with people so irretrievably corrupt?

And how does one preserve one's party by joining the other party? I think you want one party and no opposition to your views.

Thanks also for justifying congressional investigations into the lies and wrongdoings of the president and others. I always knew that the majority Republicans were not abusing the power given them by the voters to go after Clinton. If it's correct now, it was correct then. If it's "the will of the people" now it was also the will of the people then. Thanks for clearing that up and supporting our elected representatives' ability to go on political search and destroy missions to the continued detriment of those very voters who gave them the power, then and now.

Also, there is no evidence that Gonzalez has lied under oath, though you seem quite happy to believe it and are ready to schedule a trial. All we really have is political opportunism and the opinions of Sens. Charlie Schemer, Patrick Leaky and Dingy Harry Reid, people who I personally choose to disdain with all the rancor you show Republicans. Besides, from your comment it appears that you have already convicted the Attorney General, so why bother with a trial? Since you believe it, it must be true.

You and Amy B. should get acquainted. Stereotypes and generalizations are favored by both of you, even though it appears she is highly enamored of big business, a somewhat contradictory position for someone who seems to have such a good handle on the source of all the other evil in the world, apparently doesn't realize that somewhere along the line, both Warren Buffet and Bill Gates have diversified their assets to include Exxon Mobil, the epitome of corporate evil. They, like Bush and Cheney, have plenty of oil on their hands, trust me. And even though both seem to be lovable little fuzzballs now, they didn't get where they are by being lovable little fuzzballs. Gates has been reviled in the past as a cutthroat business person and a virtual monopolist and in fact has actually been found guilty of distasteful business practices.

But apparently Amy is an expert on who the really good rich people are. Coincidentally they are identifiable as "liberal" or "progressive". Somehow I think if they were identifiable as conservative or Republican, they would not be held up by Amy as shining examples of good rich people, despite their known and admirable support of philanthropic causes. They wouldn't be the "right" (or left, I suppose) kind of example.

Meanwhile, I have been a supporter of this administration so Jim considers me by extension to be engaged in illicit, illegal and immoral activities. Then again, I'm sure he didn't really mean anything he said and that it's just his writing style that's confusing me.

Stereotypes and generalizations. I have to admit you do some things well.

Thanks for the opportunity to rant. It seems appropriate here.

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Old Soldier — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:09:58 GMT

RH Oregon,
You are a discredit to a fine state and displaying as much ignorance as the people you defend. I like something called facts,along with someting called logic, so let's see if you can follow along.... . 1. Mission Accomplished 2. "Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job" (Days before Brownie was fired for incompetence. 3. George Tenet fired as CIA Chief and replaced by political hack who didn't last a year (in the mean time demoralizing CIA employes and 5 top agents quit) Seems to me we need CIA for on Terror. 4. Rumsfeld's arrogant handling of Iraq planning and execution, which included firing the General who dared say we needed 150 to 200 K troops. We are currently well over 150 K -- 4 years too late. 5. Rumsfeld rightly kicked to the curb AFTER Republicans got trounced in the election -- despite Rove's assurances to the contrary (you must be really happy with that one) 6. Harriet Myers 7. President claiming executive privilege 8. Vice Presidential lawyers claiming VP NOT part of Executive (explain that logic!) 9. VP's Chief of Staff CONVICTED of perjury for blowing a CIA ops cover to support a story even the White House now admits is not true. Classy. 10. Gonzales totally incompetent firings, opinions (on things like torture for example)and painfully stupid testimony. And lots more. Commonality? All Reuplican choices, no democrats made that happen. Some Republicans have painted those who oppose the administration in this time of war are traitors/defeatists. I am serving in this war and would suggest to you that your blind support for an inept and myopic administration doesn't serve us well. But you can't see that can you? You would gladly defend your party, while throwing away the long term needs of the nation. Who needs Iraqi insurgents, I have you to worry about.

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RH Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:12:59 GMT

Did they put ol' Ted Kazinski's cabin up for sale on Ebay?
I think I know who bought it...

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ken"Quit reading it if you cant figure it out "O — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:37:00 GMT

can you understand old soldier?Prob not with your head in the sand.

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rick,ky — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:48:21 GMT

Take another drink of that high powered kool-aid there RH, it does'nt seem to be working for ya. "DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER"

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May I speak for the thinking readers? — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:50:50 GMT

"All we really have is political opportunism and the opinions of Sens. Charlie Schemer, Patrick Leaky and Dingy Harry Reid, people who I personally choose to disdain ....." ..... "Thanks for the opportunity to rant. " >>>>>>>>>> think nothing of it - the thinking readers didn't.

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MiddleTennessee — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:57:30 GMT

Has anyone noticed that Cheney always looks like he smells something that stinks?

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RH Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 19:58:15 GMT

Old soldier - Unfortunately most of those are good points. And the mishandling of the war in Iraq is abominable. I do not agree with the premise of invasion of a country to avoid a forcasted danger. As a man on the ground how do you suggest we end this morass? Personally I'd rather have you here on our southern border. And every one of our National Guard at home with their families, now there is a broken contract.
As to my 'defense' it is aimed at the general spew of hatred targeted at 'my party'. I do not lump the majority of the Republican party with the sour cream that has risen to the top. Just as I don't equate the entire Democratic party with Nancy Pelosi and the 9th court of San Francisco.
Keep your head down, chin up and come home safe.

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Pete Arnold — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:21:38 GMT

"I think you want one party and no opposition to your views. "

But, but, but, we have a majority. We can do anything we want!!

Wrote this on another thread, but its appropriate here too. Pelosi and Reid are two of the most divisive leaders this country has ever seen. Bush virtually gave them a gimme with Immigration Reform, and Reid managed to mangle that up.

Reid and Pelosi are in a position of leadership. It is their job to find a way to get legislation passed. They are to be the compromisers. Instead, they are the antagonists. They are the ones that are never flexible in their positions. They are in the back pockets of far left interest groups, and are not interested in any compromises.

Look at the recent Republican leaders in the House and Senate. Dole, Lott, and Frist in the Senate. How bland were those guys? Yes they led the Senate as conservatives, but they never where as antagonistic as Reid has been.

In the House - Hastert - now there was a guy that looked and acted like an everyday "Joe". Conservative? Sure. But he left the "dirty work" to others, that way, he could work with the Democrats on things he needed to work with them on.

I've left someone off the list. Gingrich. Great party leader. Sucked at SOTH because he was just like Pelosi - inflexible. It worked for a while because Dole was able to moderate things a bit in the Senate, but then it all fell apart for Gingrich. Pelsoi has no such advantage because Reid is every bit as loony as she is.

We see the results of Pelosi's and Reid's leadership. Nothing is getting done. The majorities the Democrats have are razor thin. That thin margin makes it essential that the leaders of both parties are at least a little flexible. It is really easy for the minority party to stick together against Reid and Pelosi though because they are so inflexible.

Watch for the Gingrich history to repeat itself.

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RH Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:58:30 GMT

Go back in the cabin Ken. The world will end soon enough.

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Don in LA — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:06:21 GMT

For comic relief all one needs to do is read any post by RH, jerri of course, Richard in Wash., and it seems anyone named ken.

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Richard, Washington State — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:13:16 GMT

Old Soldier: 1. Mission accomplished- It was. Tell the crew of the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln that they didn't accomplish their mission. Re-read Bush's speech carefully and objectively and there might be a 1 in 100 chance that you'll see that there is nothing untrue or misleading or inaccurate about what it said at the time for the time and situation that existed. It even correctly warned that there was a long way to go in Iraq. 2. Nothing factual about your conclusions here, just opinions growing out of political opportunism to trash George Bush and his administration. Katrina and the suffering involved was shamelessly used for partisan political purposes. 3. George Tenet, held over from a Democrat administration against the judgement of many. Now, that might have been a mistake, but claiming that his firing is some evidence of incompetence is bogus. Just an opinion, but so is this "fact" you cite. 4. Actually, the general who supposedly got fired said we needed 350-400,000 troops. Other generals supported Rumsfeld's plan. As an old soldier, does your experience reflect the fact that there are great differences within the military chain of command about almost anything? Again, you have supplied an opinion, not a fact. Same for #5. 6. Harriet Miers- so what? I thought it was great strategy to offer up a sacrificial lamb, energize the base and assure that we got Sam Alito. 7. Bush has some ways to go to catch up with Clinton on invoking executive privilege, but he is closing in on Washington and Jefferson. Bush used EP the first time to withold documents related to Janet Reno and the handling of certain things during her tenure. These documents were requested by Republicans and they were refused. Executive privilege is well established legally. 8. Actually, I do have a bit of trouble understanding this one. But then legal parsing is rather intricate, especially when trying to determine what the definition of "is" is. 9. This entire statement is untrue since no charges for blowing a CIA ops cover were ever filed. No charges, nada, even though we know who actually leaked Plame to the press. Armitage is free as a bird and Libby may have been convicted of having a bad memory. Just as likely, in my opinion. And like you, all I have is my opinion. 10. Gonzalez did nothing wrong, but again, you're entitled to your opinion and fully free to assist in political search and destroy missions.

You make a lot of serious and quite insulting assumptions about RH Oregon and his/her beliefs, motives and opinions with what is actually very little factual support, just your version of things. That's normal, but still just opinion.

I thank you for your service, but it doesn't justify your final statement about RH Oregon. It erodes your credibility and it's disappointing that you resort to a worn out laundry list of partisan political talking points. I don't think your contribution to the debate elevates it much. Even here, where one doesn't have to rise very far.

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Mark Y; Westlake Village, CA — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:16:31 GMT

RH Oregon,
from what I have read, FBI testimony is backed up by other witnesses. unless its a conspiracy to make gonzo look bad (too late!), it's a numbers game whereby gonzo's accounts conflict with almost all the other witnesses' testimony. To me, it's a smoking gun, not definitive proof. However, the only way to determine what happened is not in the court of public opinion, but in a court of law. If this were a criminal preliminary hearing, I would think there is enough evidence to bind the "defendant" over for trial. Unfortunately, although the law should work that way, politics doesn't.

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Ted Kazinski- la la land Oregon — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:27:52 GMT

RH Oregon-
No relations with that woman. (and how many died?)
I never inhaled. (and how many died?)
I did not have information on the whitewater deal. (and how many died?)

Anything sound familliar here?

And, you are right about the FBI guy possibly being the wrong one here. BUT- if it doaesn't get to court, or someone doesn't own up to it (lying), how the hell are we going to know??

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Richard, Washington State — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:44:13 GMT

Middle Tennessee: When and how did you get so close to him?

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Richard, Washington State — Tue, 31 Jul 2007 23:27:29 GMT

MISFTTR?:

That was a hell of a comeback. How long did it take to think of it, reader, before you asked to speak? (Permission granted, by the way.)

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Jim, Santa Cruz — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:08:10 GMT

Richard, Wash. State - My point on republicans crossing the aisle is that they should recognize that they are going to lose far less in 2008 if they attempt to work with the democrats in a more progressive direction (yes, a more liberal direction). You see in today's environment moving to the center is a progressive change and really not such a stretch for moderate republicans, perhaps for you it's distasteful, but for the country it's a good thing, in my opinion

Now about Clinton, was it correct to investigate his lying about receiving oral sex from Monica? - yes, because he was testifying under oath. He was impeached and was voted not guilty. OK, so if enough republicans see that Gonzo's impeachment should go the same way, then that's justice as we have it. But, they may decide he is guilty. Personally, of course I think he's guilty, and I think he's incompetant, and I think he is destroying the institution of the Justice Department.

As far as my stereotyping and generalizing the pathetic performance of this republican administration, I refer you to the evening news on any of the media outlets for the specifics.

Finally, I don't consider anyone who supports someone who is suspected of a crime to be guilty of that crime as well! That is un-American. People who believe suspected murderers are innocent are not killers as well! Now I do think those who voted for Bush in 2004 to be fairly naive, since it was pretty obvious then that he was not up to the job. But again, that's the American way - he won and now look what we have.

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RH Oregon — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:16:54 GMT

No problem Don, gives ya break from Tellatubbies though don't it.

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RH Oregon — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:23:33 GMT

Ted, just a comment on the perpetual lying machine of Washington DC, not justifing Iraq. Calm down.

What a bunch of rabid critters. At least I give you someone to yell at. If I was another one liner (zorro) what would you do. Sit here and beat your Bushes all day?

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:51:24 GMT

Look, folks, Faceshooter is all for Gonzo, so we can forget his EVER leaving, or being investigated properly, or being impeached. With the Emperor as well as his mini-me the chimp behind Gonzo, it's a foregone conclusion that the guy's absolutely untouchable. History might as well find the missing 18 minutes of Rosemary Woods's tape as uncover any damning evidence on Gonzo. It'll all be erased and shredded. The slippery weasel wil just slip away...

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nuanced — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:08:56 GMT

Why when Dick Cheney is the subject the conversation drops to the lowest level? The man just brings out the worst in America.

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Amy B Portland, Me — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 02:20:27 GMT

Richard, Washington. State. My father was a life long Republican and an executive and he still managed to be an ethical professional. I have observed the executives at my company holding the line on employee benefts, laying off people, and making unpopular decisions, but still performing like people who expected to be accountable for their actions. But, my God, have you seen Gonzales testify in front of congress? And then to hear Cheney praise him after that abysmal performance? I guess my point was, what the hell has happened to professional standards in this administration. In my experience, successful business people have a level of garden variety integrity that is lacking in the Bush appointees. I don't mean the Gates and Buffet types are cherubs, I mean they adhere to everyday standards of behavior, like not valuing a talent for lying in a subordinate over the ability to manage an office. I know I'm not expressing this very well, but I am just disgusted with the incompetency and lowering of common professional standards in this administration. I mean, managers at the local McDonald's would be ashamed to go before their supervisors and say "I don't know, I don't recall, I know I've made mistakes but can't say what they were..." etc. etc.

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H P Boston — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:12:06 GMT

I was going to comment on cheney but then I thought, why step in shit. I just do not have boots tall enough to go there.

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Olivia — Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:42:54 GMT

Re: Richard, Washington State "Katrina and the suffering involved was shamelessly used for partisan political purposes": That's as it should be. Between the Bush Administration's lackluster response during the storm and the fact that under cover of current media non-coverage, Bush has been backing away from promises made to rebuild New Orleans and strengthen her levees to Category 5, Katrina needs to be treated as a significant campaign issue and should come up in all presidential debates. It's far more than Edwards' haircuts, hedge funds, or how Hillary stands on Walmart. If this is considered to be "shamelessly" using Katrina for political purposes, so be it. Hopefully Jan. 21, 2009 won't be too late for New Orleans, a great American city which a Bush Administration with seriously misplaced priorities is being content to allow to die a slow painful death.