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PJ — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:38:01 GMT

"Fred's Coming to Iowa"...and going...nowhere. Repubs choices are slim to none. Rudy the terror fighter or Mr Plastic I'm pro-life now...no wonder they're still harping on Bill Clinton's BJ. Cheney Bush are criminals, they have sucked the life out of the Republican party.

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Flo — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:05:30 GMT

Just say "NO" to the candidates the media is shoving in our faces. It's time the people choose their own president

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RH Oregon — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:10:57 GMT

Go Fred Go...
For those interested in educating themselves, not voting on emotion or hype, research Mr. Thompsons voting record. I would judge it fairly down the middle with a right lean. Which fits a good majority of Americans. He's definately not far-right, or ultra conservative. He's not been on President Bushes bandwagon. After looking at his record, visit his website at imwithfred.com and listen to him talk about issues. Federalism, eminent domain, immigration, etc. At least you will hear what the mans views on issues are. I don't believe he would be a devisive leader pulling the country apart, such as Bush has been or Hillery would be.
If we are looking for a candidate to represent a majority of Americans, not just far-right or far-left then Fred may be our man.

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HP Boston — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:12:40 GMT

Here, here PJ you got that right.
Shrub has so infected this country with fear and BS
all those pasty white guys wish they could vote him in again. They love war.

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MK,MO — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:15:49 GMT

I suppose romney wants to reduce the tax burden on the wealthy yet again, raise it on the wage earner to make up the difference, how can he talk about more tax cuts with the money getting spent on iraq everyday, guess he's got good credit, or I should say future generations of americans have good credit, hope that $1200 a week make-up artist does a good job, romneys going to need it

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John Doe, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:18:36 GMT

Let's go ahead and label them what they actually are, not the inheritors of Reagan, or even Goldwater, but of Jesse Helms, George Wallace, and Strom Thurmond. The more these CANDIDATES (never mind the two still actually running the show) speak, the more they sound just like the old-line Dixiecrats which broke away from Kennedy and Johnson.
Case in point, the new story that "whites" are now a minority in 10% of the counties in the country. The geographic arrangement shows the old "Black Belt," of rural, heavily African-American counties in the Mid to Deep South, and a new "Brown Belt" that stretches across the Southwest and into the Great Plains. No wonder we are hearing cries demanding safety and security from this "foreign" menace, and louder and louder calls for English and Cultural assimilation--the MSNBC story points out that many supporters of harsh immigration policies decry that the new arrivals don't have the same "culture," and don't want to learn English or how to be "American." Every one of these arguments was used, in a slightly different form, during the era of American Apartheid to explain why African-Americans shouldn't vote, or have equal rights, or decent jobs, or equal housing---Save the white women from rape, they're not like us!!! Helms, Wallace et al. made careers out of the same gibberish that Romney, Tancredo, and others now spout about another ethnic group that is infringing on "Our" moral, physical, and economic safety.
Hey, we do need border security, but has anyone stopped to consider that the guys responsible for 9/11 came through OUR AIRPORTS and CANADA and lived in Europe?!?!?! We gonna build a fence there? How about deporting all Canadians, or not allowing Europeans to travel to our country?

Stop it, stop it, stop it. Stop screaming "Homeland Security" when what you really mean is "They're gonna rape our white women and take our jobs."

I know that's what you mean, I've heard it before.

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bb — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:18:38 GMT

Fred is dead in the water. Romney is proving himself to be the biggest hipocrite of the bunch. Mr pro-war Romney doesn't want his precious sons getting killed. Somebody elses is OK, appparently.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:33:04 GMT

You forgot to mention the most interesting part of that Iowa Republican poll:

"Perhaps most surprising of all, Obama actually finished third as the preferred general election candidate of registered Republicans, at 6.7 percent, after Romney and Giuliani" -http://campaignsandelections.com/IA/articles/?ID=479

Unbelievably, Obama has more Republican support in that poll than Thompson, McCain, Brownback, Hunter, Tancredo, or Huckabee. It's not the first poll to show this unprecedented trend either; there was a another Iowa poll of Republican primary voters a while back where Obama got 11.8%, and an April Diageo/Hotline poll of the country showed Obama with better favorable numbers than Romney among Republicans.

Talk about crossover appeal and general election strength.

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Susan, Miami — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:41:24 GMT

Shadow, if Hillary gets the nomination you will do what? Just curious.

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HMT-MI — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:46:22 GMT

Didn't Romney say his sons were contributing to this country by campaigning for him?He loves this war and believes int the surge to keep on truckin.Another guy that believes like Bush and Cheney-----it is up to the little peons of this country to fight our wars and protect and enrich the status quo like them.Romney as big a liar and coward as the imposter sitting in the whitehouse.

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RH Oregon — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:57:59 GMT

That's a nice rant JD Raleigh NC, why don't you go down to Texas. There is a family down there that just had thier 15 year old daughter killed by illegal immigrants that you can console. She was up here in Portland visiting a sister, two guys that should not have been in our country, raped and strangled her. And yes I know it could have been done by anyone. But it wasn't.
An immigrant to our society needs to follow our laws, and want to assimilate to our society. We have an obligation to help them assimilate. They have every right and should retain thier culture, but this is our country, our society, by coming here they are leaving their society behind. They are choosing to join ours. All illegal immigration, mexican, canadian, asian, european, whatever needs to be controlled. This is not politics by fear, it is protecting the fabric of the American society. That society has produced the best country the world has ever seen. Yes we are still developing, we are only 200 years old. It was just 40 years ago we looked in the mirror and came to grips with our racial policies that conflicted with our motto "all men are created equal". The changes since then have been tremendous. And no they are not perfect nor are they finished. But to not control immigration and embrace a society 'centered' around race and multicultalism would quickly break us into a bunch of bickering, fighting little balkanized states. America perfect or not would cease to exist. And our freedom to even have this little discussion would probably be gone.

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freds fan — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:03:26 GMT

freds comming to iowa everybody run run run before the fred man gets you.

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F StLouis — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:07:40 GMT

Romney is a coward Mormon. End of story.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:08:09 GMT

Susan - I live in CT, which will probably be safe Democratic (unless nominating Hillary is an even dumber idea than I think it is) - so I can vote third party with a clean conscience if she is nominated. I don't HAVE to vote for lobbyist control, corporate dominance, or tens of thousands of troops remaining in Iraq, even if the sad situation arises where both the Republican and Democratic nominee represent those things.

However, I'm not dumb; if CT is at all up for grabs, I would take Clinton in a heartbeat over any of those neocon Republicans, and that includes recent Republican Mike Bloomberg (who has been spreading the media lie that he's supposedly "anti-war", when Bloomberg was in fact the main financier of Joe Lieberman's dubious independent campaign last year, a campaign entirely based on lying to voters with the claim of "wanting to bring the troops hope" and having no intention of doing so). Just because Hillary is way too supportive of the Republican policy positions I listed in the first paragraph, it doesn't mean I can't tell the difference between her and neocon Republicans; it's kind of like even though day-old tofu tastes like crap, I do understand the difference between eating day-old tofu and actual crap - but seriously folks, can't we nominate a steak for dinner instead?

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N. Otter, Harrisburg, PA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:33:28 GMT

Vote No to the Iraq War, No to Abortion, No to Taxes, Yes for the Constitution, Yes for Freedom, Yes for Liberty!! Vote for Dr. Ron Paul - check out his record. He is a man of conscience

RON PAUL - 2008

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nuanced — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:39:32 GMT

I suppose the GOP trying to figure out to prevent voter fraud is like asking a burglar how to burglar proof your home -- it makes sense.

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HMT-MI — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:51:26 GMT

Whatever Democrat wins the primaries I will vote for-----------they all stand head and shoulders above theholier than thou republicans that are running.I get tired of them dragging ronnies corpse around loike a good luck charm.Sickos

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John Doe, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:54:13 GMT

RH from Oregon:
First, the murder of a child is horrible, regardless of who did it.
Second, you must have missed the sentence where I said that yes, we do need an immigration policy that works--and that means works for all. We are a nation of mostly illegal immigrants (ask Native Americans how many visas and green cards they gave out) struggling to define limitations on what we can handle. HOWEVER, blindly screaming about white minorities, building walls (check with the British, Chinese, and East German governments on how well their walls worked) or economically blockading our own cities is just downright ignorant.
We will continue to have this problem so long as no one recogizes that it is inextricably tied to larger processes such as globalization, job exportation, trade imbalances and corporate welfare designed to exploit LDCs. So long as so many see it as a problem of people being illegal rather than a systemic imbalance, we're gonna have this problem.
As a father, my heart goes out to those parents and, like you RH, I want justice for their child. ALSO as a father, I know that, if Mexican employers could pay me a wage that would allow me to adequately feed and clothe my family and I could not do that here, then I'd swim that river no matter how many times they tried to send me back or what names they called me.
Yes, our system now SCREAMS for criminals to cross just as it does for parents and sons and daughters to do so, and as long as we put those fathers in the same category as those murderers, the system won't get fixed and the argument will still be about who belongs and who doesn't. An argument, by the way, that flies in the face of EVERYTHING we claim is American:
Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to be free . . .

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Jim M — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:54:22 GMT

These candidates are all fakers. The presidential contest has all the authenticity of "All Star Wrestling". It is clear that the game plan is to lull the public to sleep on the war issue by having a changing of the guard and giving the reins to a Democrat (who will continue the war). The Republican candidates intend to fall on their swords like Kerry did to effect this. Ron Paul is the only exception, which is why they will not allow him in even if he is the people's choice. Shall we the people allow this?

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New Independent — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:57:15 GMT

John Doe -The African Americans you were talking about, were AMERICANS and deserved the same freedoms every American had. The ILLEGAL aliens (or immigrants if you want to call them that) are entering our country by breaking the law. I'm not afraid they are going to "rape" our women, but I do care that they are causing the wages of Americans to go down. I am tired of hearing about jobs Americans don't want to do. Americans have a history of doing any job asked for them, we just don't want to do it for slave labor. If you really cared about the illegal immigrants you would also be fighting to stop American businesses from hiring them illegally. American businesses are exploiting the illegal immigrant as well as hurting the American worker. The same goes for outsourcing or do you agree with that also? I don't think there is anything wrong in asking this countries leaders to ask everyone to follow the laws that are in place. I don't agree with the law in New Jersey that 17 year olds have to be in by midnight or can only have one person in the car. Does that mean I should tell my daughter to just ignore it? Absolutely not. I am tired of hearing I am racist because I think it's wrong to come into a country illegally. I don't care where you are from. Try going into Mexico or for that matter, any other country illegally and march down their streets telling them you want social security, etc. etc. Let me know how far you will get. (By the way, make sure you are waving an American flag at the same time) Just a question - If we don't enforce the laws of this country, why bother to have them?

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Bot, St. Louis MO — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:04:00 GMT

It was the Dems who stole the Missouri election by stuffing ballots in St. Louis. There were more votes than registered voters by at least 4,000.

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Susan, Miami — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:12:19 GMT

Thanks for your thoughts Shadow. I just can't stand the thought of any dem, especially one that has been pushed to the left like myself, not vote or think way too deeply and vote for a candidate that can't win- like handing your vote to a republican. I do hear you though about Clinton. Politically speaking, I think the Clintons are the only dems (at this point) who can hold their own against the viciousness and attacks of the repub party during an election.

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RH Oregon — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:27:58 GMT

Yah, vote the party line. Don't think. Vote for whatever corpse is raised.
Isn't that exactly what your accussing the Republican party of doing?
Sounds hypocritical...

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Dave, AZ — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:36:05 GMT

RH, did it ever occur to you that you are nothing but a xenophobic reactionary? You "stop the immigration" type seem to have a bag full of illegal horro stries to scare everybody. The basis for our immigration policy in the first place was based on racism after the WWI and the result was the National Origins Act of 1920. Sem Hiram Johnson wanted not only to stop Asian immigration, but kick out all the Asians in the country, even those who were citizens. Although the Hannity's and the O'Reilly's and the other people oftheir ilk call force "secure borders," what they are really saying is that they hate Mexicans but do have the guts to say it. Actually they believe that Mexicans are the new "n*@##ers" but again are gutless to say it. If you think that are society has come to grips with race, I have a black family I want to move in next to you. You are delusional at best to think that a fence is gong to keep out our problems. Also, I have a news flash for you, if you don't think we have a segregated society, then you definetely live in some sort of utopian bubble.

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RH Oregon — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:18:00 GMT

Dave your way off the mark. Immigration must be controlled in any society that is to function. What do you think uncontrolled immigration would do? If you need to move from Arizona your welcome to come on up. We have a couple of latino families, one asian couple, an openly gay couple and a couple mixed marriages. We have big 4th of July bashes etc., if that's a bubble, so be it. I also do think our country has came to grips with race in the 60's, but has not got it completely straight yet. We haven't been working on it long. Just a couple generations ago it was wooden boats, loaded with human cargo to be traded. Nothing makes that right. Nothing makes the Asian problem of child and sex slaves right, we can only work to make it better. I also believe most of the segregation and fences we find are of our own building. And when you find one that someone else erected, tear it down.
I also wonder what the effect race will have in another 50 years. In America we are already mixing the pot so fast that in a couple of generations everybody will be a hyphenated(-)American. The 'Tiger Woods Syndrome" if you will. I hope we get to the point where when someone asks your nationality people answer with American first. I'm an American-African, Mexican, whatever. How's that for dreaming in a bubble. But maybe I'm just smoking Oregon's #1 cash crop, who knows. :-)>

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jjg, ms — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:21:41 GMT

jerry "the plant" CC, T - is that you? No, could not be since you do not post in this area. Nothing good to say, and all that, I guess. Sad individual.

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Johann Doe, Anytown, USA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:33:59 GMT

Dave, I'm a *legal* immigrant. Let me give you a bit of news: there are millions of people who would love to come to the *legally*. We're instead spending time looking for ways to placate the Hispanic-American electorate by giving Shamnesty to people who have broken the law by coming into the country illegally, and continue to daily break laws by being blackleg/scabs, breaking workplace safety and salary victories carefully earned by unions. It is possible to have a sensible immigration policy, one where drug dealers cannot send mules across the border because we have a fence, one where Mexicans looking for work can simply queue at the US embassy in Mexico, and meet up with representatives for US companies willing to sponsor their stay here. A border fence + legal immigration is the answer, not some shamnesty that rewards illegal activity.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:35:23 GMT

Susan - Thanks. I'm actually an independent voter, but like most independent voters today, the last thing we're interested in is voting for a neocon, and I plan to switch to a Democrat to vote in the 2008 primary just like I did last year to vote against Joe Lieberman.

I disagree with your opinion that Clinton is the only one who can fight back adequately against the Republican machine, because the main reason Gore and Kerry were unable to was that they were considered too stiff and uncharismatic to overcome their charicatures, and Hillary has the same problem; in addition, Gore and Kerry failed to win over most Democratic-leaning independent voters like me because they worried only about the miniscule percentage of independents who were swing voters, instead of drawing out millions of disaffected progressive moderates. It seems to me, instead of repeating the same exact mistakes for a THIRD time, it would be smart for the Democratic party to nominate someone with charisma who will draw out every Democratic leaner, and that would be Obama (and to a lesser degree Edwards).

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Susan, Miami — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:41:50 GMT

RH, who will you vote for all knowing one, King of Oregon. Inquiring minds want to know.

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Kenn"pick on someone your own size:O — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:47:50 GMT

run forest run what is his problem? Cant get up for a campaign how about 4 long years try to put humpty dunpty back together again,although maybe he gains strenght through that ultra young wife he has .What do they have in common outside the bedroom?really creepy that may december thing.

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RH Oregon — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:18:15 GMT

Who to vote for hmmmm. Well Susan, Queen of the Okeechobe :-), not positive yet. I lean towards fiscal conservative, and social libertarian. How's that for a mix. I think people should have the freedom to do as they will as long as nobody's hurt. But fiscally the government is too, too big and needs to stay out of our pockets. I like Fred T's take on federalism. Let the states work on as much as possible. Let the federal government work on defense(not offense), and stay out of marriage, etc.
My main problem with Hillery is her hypocracy, dishonesty, and her & Bills efforts towards the deconstructionist movement. Obama I'm not sure about, I will admit I havn't researched his voting record enough to have an informed opinion.
And no I do not approve of the current war in Iraq or that we have funded it on credit. But the current line of hated towards the Republican side because of the President is crazy. I don't believe we went in based on lies made up to get us there. BOTH parties had access to the intellegence community, the military community and foreign community. Maybe we could have fooled some or most of Congress, but we had a coallition of (20?) countries. I know they did not go in based only on our intelligence sources. What about France, Spain, Mexico, Germany, Britian? Were every single one fooled?
Anyway, so I don't buy the 'anyone but a Republican, because their all like Bush' retoric.
How about a Fred T./ Barack O ticket? or Fred / Ron Paul?
Well you asked... :-)>

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Robert Catalano, Salem, OR — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:28:58 GMT

Fred should stay on Law & Order

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Jprice — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:32:12 GMT

Rudy’s retort is not just disingenuous, it is an outright lie.
The very definition of a Sanctuary City.

"If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, you're one of the people who we want in this city. You're somebody that we want to protect, and we want you to get out from under what is often a life of being like a fugitive, which is really unfair."
ABC News August 8, 2007
abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3459498&page=1

Whether or not you think illegal immigration is an important issue, whether or not you agree with Giuliani’s reasons for keeping NYC a Sanctuary City, it is clear:
Rudy’s retort to Romney’s assertion is not just disingenuous, it is an outright lie. Have you not been lied to enough by politicians? I have.

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Susan,Queen of the Okeechobee — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:31:54 GMT

RH, thanks for your response and making me laugh. I do agree that we need someone that is not so entrenched in the underbelly of American politics(as bad as it has become today), but that is not reality today either. There is a dark cloud over our country now which has been caused by this administration. I just pray that the next president-whoever that may be, will get us out of Iraq and spend more quality time and energy and money on the US and also be able to repair the damage that has been done concerning our standing in the world.

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RH Oregon — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:52:59 GMT

Well said...

May the best person for America win.

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Dufflepud — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:21:19 GMT

RH Oregon said:
"He's not been on President Bushes bandwagon."

Dude, Fred is one of the trustees of the Libby Legal Defense Trust. Try again.

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Allen Sircy, Nashville TN — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 21:44:47 GMT

The only one that makes sense is Ron Paul. The rest will say anything to get elected.

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wgadget, Marietta, GA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:34:39 GMT

A breath of needed fresh air for WE, THE PEOPLE....

www.ronpaul2008.com

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Bryan, Boston MA — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:17:52 GMT

Are we seriously supposed to swallow this article? the Globe has an honesty problem? Have you ever heard them slander a democrat like they did Romney? The Globe engaged in a full-body tango defending Bill Clinton's impeachment. That they don't like Romney is a HUGE compliment. They are a bunch of Neanderthals.

And I am so sick of this "I was in the military so only I love America or can be president." Im going to throw up.

And, "Oh ya, Romney, we don't have ANY dirt on you, so tell us how many COUNTIES are in your state?" You are a Bad person for not knowing that minutia."

This article is pathetic.

Romney is the only candidate who is qualified to be president period. Smart, educated, a fierce debater, leader.

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Scott, Albuquerque, New Mexico — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 04:16:09 GMT

It bugs me that Fred Thompson insists that everything is hunky dory. With the world stock markets in a spin, I wonder if we can wait until 2009 for Ron Paul to be president.

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Kay, Illinois — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:30:29 GMT

I am a republican. There I said and I am not ashamed of it. Now with that being said I am ashamed of my party. I look to the left and I have to look way to the left to see the candidates and they scare me. I'm serious Hillary scares the hell out of me. I look to the right and I see Mitt. Now I am really scared! All I know is whoever wins this election can bet that the market will crash and 9/11 will seem like a cake walk. We are going down and there is just no denying it!!!