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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:22:22 GMT

Clinton says "I will not accept half-steps or piecemeal measures." Yet at this gay forum thing, marriage and military aren't the only issues - watch for Clinton getting hit on her support/resistance for needle exchange.

Much like the bankruptcy thing and Iraq, she's on both sides of the issue, and not particularly good at doing it. Her supporters don't seem to care, but she has a history of offering intelligence-insulting rationales for her waffling, getting caught, and shamelessly not seeming to acknowledge she got caught.

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juan,ft lauderdale,fl — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:26:38 GMT

Until equal protection under the law is enacted for EVERYONE regardless of sexual orientation will we be a country that abides by the constitution that protects life,liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:32:14 GMT

Biden and Dodd won't be at the Gay debate, so this is the chance for Obama to go after Hillary without her two attack dogs guarding her. At some point, I knew someone would go back and double check Obama and the lobby money, I imagine that someone is just as hard at it with John Edwards right now. I don't see how anybody could not accept anybody's money, specially the Lobby side in this day and age.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:05:14 GMT

Jerry - I think the explosive new reporting has uncovered what we already knew, unless I misread the story. Obama acknowledged taking PAC money for his Senate campaign. He said he wouldn't in this campaign.

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HOT DAM — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:06:05 GMT

Shrub and his machine (well oiled) have been the worst thing that ever happened to America.
We need to rid the vermin from this disaster they caused.
7000 refugees from Iraq comming to Sugarland, Tx.

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bb — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:11:39 GMT

Paul, welcome to politics! Republican candidates don't do this as well? You can insert the name Bush or Romney or DeLay or.... instead of Clinton.

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H P Boston — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:36:21 GMT

Yes BB, Paul is sure picking up some rebub bad habits.

Pac money, first he did, then he didn't. fli...
See Paul, Obama can be pinned down with this stuff too.

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jerri fan — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 15:01:50 GMT

jerri you go girl twist them facts i hate to read the truth all the time so your twisted gossop really does me good.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:03:51 GMT

If I am picking up "rebub" bad habits, H P, its only because I learned them from Clinton supporters.

By the way, has Clinton figured out yet whether the initial invasion of Iraq was a good or bad idea?

And bb, I agree! So let's not elect Clinton nor any of the Republicans.

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Mark Morris, Cupertino CA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:39:42 GMT

Yeah, we all knew this much. Obama is not taking PAC or washington lobbyost money for his presidential campaign. Naturally, Clinton, who will take money from anyone wants everyone to know that all of Obama's money doesn't come from Jesus Christ himself. I'm so sick of Hillary's do as I say, not as I do, rhetoric.

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jerry/Corpus Christi texas — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:45:38 GMT

H P would have to agree with Hillary that Iraq was a good thing, right H P? After all, Susan agrees with the President on Iraq, considering Hillary voted for the war, right Susan? because if it is good for Hillary, it is good for the president, right ladies? i thought so.

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Min, Richmond, VA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:46:12 GMT

Is this forum televised? Which station is carrying it?

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jjg, ms — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:19:43 GMT

jerry "the plant" CC,T - was looking for you in the R section again today. There must be a malfunction, because - yet again - you have not posted there.

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HP Boston — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:31:38 GMT

Paul you are the POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK!
Independent indeed!

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HOT DAM — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:34:24 GMT

7000 Iraq refugees coming to Corpus Christie, Texas.

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H P Boston — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:36:22 GMT

Paul and jerry seem to be on the same page.....
Mmmmmm

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HOT DAM — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:37:05 GMT

7000 Iraq refugees coming to Corpus Christie, Texas.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:18:11 GMT

HP - right...

Because I don't support the only candidate who can't make up her mind whether the Iraq invasion was a good idea or bad idea, first it was how I must just be an insecure guy who hates women, and now I must be a Republican.

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Stan — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:40:55 GMT

About Obama I am surprise that you failed to mention that the editorial of today's Washington Post support his stand on fighting terrorism...and criticize other candidates for attacking him. Also, the article challenged them to come up with their own solution on the issue...it is a great read…and here is the link to the article… titled "Chasing Terrorists"
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/08/AR2007080802085.html

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Eliah A — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:15:49 GMT

Obama wouldn't be elected Senetor in the first place, if he had rufused PAC money. What the media doesn't report is the fact that lobbyists have more power in washington than they should. It is only reported as a rhetoric or a talking point by left leaning democrats. It just makes me wonder, whatever happened to investigative reporting. Their focus is to bring down the change agent and keep the status quo.

Fair reporting would be to also investigate Clinton's claim that lobbyists represent real Americans. But they don't want to touch that since it is going to implicate a lot of people.

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H P Boston — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:44:53 GMT

Well Paul you can pin your labels wherever you like.I was wearing the Independent one for many years, but became fond of the Democrats, so now I must wear that one.

My point in all of this is I support all the candidates who are Dems. I can not and will not tear down any to feed the repukes fodder.

I prefer Clinton because she can beat the repuks machine. The fact that the hard core repuks hate her goes without saying but they hate all dem canidates.
Who ever is nominated will also be demonized by the repuks.
Are you serious thinking Senator Clinton thinks the Iraq invasion was a good ideas now that WE all know the lies and hysteria were blinding us all?
I do not.

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 19:49:59 GMT

Lets have a trade. Juan can have his ''equal protection under the law''for gays when we get it for white males [of any sexuality]. The 14th Amendment specifically says ''race'',but not ''orientation''. I will give you what is not there. You will give me what IS there. All forms of Affirmative Action must be henceforth dismantled. Let the high court again revisit MICHIGAN.

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juan,ft lauderdale,fl — Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:09:46 GMT

Lee Holmes-The white males as you have pointed out have had the privileges and advantage for over 2 hundred years and insist on EVERYONE ELSE being subserviant to the Anglo-Saxon agenda....HELL NO! This will be the last generation of the European/American generation and Hispanics are now the majority and you white guys can not fathom that.For the record, I am white Cuban-American with 1/8 German on my mom side. Clarence Thomas the uncle Tom of you right ringers I GUESS WILL HAVE TO GIVE UP HIS SEAT BECAUSE OF AFFIRMATIVE ACTION.

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Lee Holmes — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:02:29 GMT

Dont hand me this garbage Juan.The Document says exactly ZERO regarding ''privilages and advantages''.It says in plain language in the 14th Amendment what it says. Do you stand for the Document or do you not? Do not demean the discussion by the insertion of racist language. Get to the point man. Lucidly,if you please.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 02:03:46 GMT

HP - I'm just going on what she said. She's criticized the management of the war. She's never to the best of my knowledge criticized the decision to invade.

Its a simple question. Were we right or wrong to invade Iraq? I know every candidate's answer, except hers.

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Kay, Illinois — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:22:56 GMT

I was born in the dark but, it wasn't last night. Any fool who believes that Obama wasn't taking lobbyist funds was STUPID! They all do it and it will never stop. Hillary was right when she said that lobbyist had things that they wanted done and they aren't ashamed to pay for it. The sad part is an average American could never do it and there fore are intrests mean nothing to the policticians. Hey what do you know Hillary was honest about something!!

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H P Boston — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 15:41:49 GMT

Well listen up Paul....and why don't you just ask her.

That poor Slob remark you made about yourself does not ring true.
What happened to your little bio about how you have handled local political races etc...????

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 17:04:50 GMT

HP - lol, are you saying a campaign manager for a county board seat is an impressive line on a resume? And I'd love to ask her. Got her phone number?

I'll tell you what - I'll go to both her campaign website and her senate website, see if I can't find someplace to submit questions via e-mail, and let you know what I get back.

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HP Boston — Fri, 10 Aug 2007 19:12:33 GMT

Hell everybody criticized the management of the war, There WAS NO management of the war, IT WAS AN INVASION. No one authorized an INVASION, no one!
Paint another or different attack this one will not fly. Come on Paul you must have some better stuff than the "war."
And I have seen lesser accomplishments on resumes.

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reader — Sat, 11 Aug 2007 19:41:56 GMT

The Kennedys are still not accepting the fact that they are not related to the man elected 35th President of the United States and his still kidnapped and hostage actual daughter? The Kennedys in their version of reality told the media to publish a false genealogy of the Kennedys. The 35th President who was repeatedly kidnapped by Joe and Rose Kennedy because he is from a good family and good families do not pay ransom or extortion money or "protection" money and neither does any member of his actual family. Ambassador AND United States Senator Cabot was kidnapped by the Kennedys/Fitzgeralds at the 1908 Democratic Convention in Colorado and forever stalked and harmed repeatedly by the Kennedys/Fitzgeralds and their organized crime colleagues and the many accessories of organized crime.