Rove slams Hillary, Democrats

Joe Justice — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:37:08 GMT

You Media Folks keep telling me, a Democratic voter, that these Bush Administration attacks make me more content with Hillary as my nominee and also make me view her as a "change" candidate-- either my fellow Democrats are gullible fools, which I doubt, or you in the Media should bother to talk to some of us before making up conclusions about how voters and carrying the water for Hillary Clinton and her exclusionary, overly-proud group of Uppity Clintonites.

These attacks simply reaffirm that Hillary Clinton offers America 4 more years of tradtional Washington bickering, whining and excuses.

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Lyn, MD — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:39:31 GMT

Rove is not stupid, he knows exactly what he is doing.
They want Hillary as the person they run against and part of that is setting it up as Hillary against Bush so the democrats and the media will do exactly what you guys are doing.

I hope the Democrats don't let Rove SUCKER us again. OK democrats he has his fiddle out are we going to let him play us.

Rove doesn't do anything without thinking about it.

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F StLouis — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:39:44 GMT

So the sissy man is slamming someone? What a joke. The only thing that fem would like to slam is Georgie boy... in his flak jacket and boots of course.

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Lee in CA — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:41:00 GMT

"Rove -- who called Clinton a "fatally flawed" candidate the day he announced his resignation -- dialed in to Rush Limbaugh's radio show ..."

A nazi's grandson and an anal cyst will save America.

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Ollie frenchburg ky — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:43:42 GMT

Imagine that. Rove calling someone else flawed. What a ruthless peice of trash.

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Charles Kushner, Chicago — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:44:38 GMT

Like Rove, or Bush for that matter, have any room to talk. History books will have whole chapters on the mess they got us into. Hillary on the other hand has little room to talk either, she voted the wrong way on Iraq and a whole slew of other issues. She did those things, betrayed our trust, so she could play political football and run for President. shame on her for lacking integrity, but shame on you if you vote for her thinking she's gonna change.

Go Obama, bring the hope and rock the vote!

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Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:45:02 GMT

Yes, ladies and gentelmen here it comes, more b.s. out of the mouth of Karl Rove. Karl stick it where the "sun don't shine".

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HOT DAM — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:45:18 GMT

Well Paul Miller will be happy his guy Obama does not have Turd Blossom on his back.
Clinton being the front runner will have to kick balls for us.

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H P Boston — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:48:50 GMT

Ah just the ticket, rove is so despised he will help the democrats all the way to the White House.

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Sonny in Tulsa — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:49:15 GMT

This little man has a lot of room to call anyone else an "elitist snob", with the sneaky, underhanded, unethical and immoral behavior he has exhibited during his career. What does he care about the men and women serving in Iraq and Afganistan? - with his own son attending college, safe from harm. But he sure does not hav a problem with sending others sons and daughters to die for this fiasco in Iraq - that he helped create. He and Rush deserve each other - both are sorry excuses for human beings.

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Greg R., Spokane, WA — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:49:16 GMT

Thanks Karl, BTW your breath smells like poop. Are you in bloom?

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jt, ok — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:52:30 GMT

I agree with Joe. The media needs to calm down and just give us the straight news, not pontificate on what it means. I think the American people are smart enough to know the Hillary came out with this ad just to get the whitehouse to respond back and make her look as a fighter. Politicians are so phony..
Why doesn't the media go into her skeltons in the closet. Out of all candidates she has had the most scandals. Everything is hunky dory to the democrats and the MSM

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Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:53:08 GMT

Joe --I couldn't agree more!!! I'm desperately trying not to be anti Hillary Clinton but it seems to me that her biggest problem MAY be in the general election not the primary. I think these accusatations just confirm what 49% of americans already think about her.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:53:39 GMT

Beware. Never a good idea to allow your opponent to choose your champion.

"The more the White House spars with her, the more it bolsters her anti-war credentials; placates liberals who are skeptical of her stands on some of the issues; and transforms her into a "change" candidate."

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John F. McFadden, Dallas, Texas — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:54:16 GMT

The Republicans are "scared", very, very scared of Hillary. And well they should be, there is a new kid in town and nobody or no thing is going to stop her. They can smear, b.s. all day, all night long. The American public is now "fully" aware of their dirty tatics. They have brought us 6+ years of hell. We will be giving you. Hill.... hillaryclinton.com

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Korie, Pennsylvania — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:54:45 GMT

Couldn't have said it better Joe Justice.

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M. Boley — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:57:22 GMT

"Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night" - Dylan Thomas.

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Informed Washington voter — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 19:59:59 GMT

I think these attacks are meant to fool folks into think Hillary is the only choice as the Democratic Nominee and allows Republicans rile up their folks and raise money. I was talking to a Republican Political strategist the other day and he flat out said the Republicans will be able to fund-raise like crazy if Hillary is the nominee.

Nice try Karl, nice try!

P.S. Will someone tell me how being 1st lady gave Hillary all this foreign policy experience. I understand she is in the Senate and all but only for one full term. If anyone should be promoting their foreign policy experience it's Biden, Dodd, and Richardson. If being 1st lady gives her the needed experience to be President should we expect a Laura Bush in 2012 campaign?

Rove slams Hillary, Democrats

Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:00:19 GMT

Karl Rove is a "winnie".And I approve of this message.

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nuanced — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:01:31 GMT

"elite effete snobs" -- I believe that is a direct quote lifted from a speech by that Republican paragon of virtue former vice president Spiro Agnew (indicted for taking bribes, he had to resign) and which was written by Pat Buchanan? What is next, will Rove use another Agnew slur and call us "nattering nanobs of negativism." Rove has such wonderful role models!

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marcus — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:04:14 GMT

This wisdom from the man who managed to lose to Al Gore (before his personality grew) by 500,000 votes in the midst of Clinton fatigue and won in 2004 against a Massachusetts liberal by one state.

Rove is the most over-hyped consultant in the world, bar none.

PS Many of his dirty tricks are borderline were racist not genius. (McCain's black baby and his ongoing 'election fraud' hoax.) If he could win legitimately i'd be impressed, but cheaters always have great advantages.

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RAH — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:05:58 GMT

While Obama talks about reaching across the aisle to work with Republicans and building consensus, Hilary wants to fight with them and relishes attacks from the White House most divisive personnel. Go figure.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:06:36 GMT

Joe - With all due respect, I don't see this article as tell you with what you should be content. It says that the HILLARY campaign wants the Bush Administration to go after her in the hopes that it will accomplish those goals. The sentence explaining the results of attacks by Rove and other Bushies modifies and clarifies the previous sentence saying this is what her campaign wants. It does not offer the opinion that this is what is actually being accomplished.

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mikeeg,abdn,wa — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:08:11 GMT

When bush veto's health care for kids and repubs uphold it that is CHILD ABUSE plain and simple.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:09:43 GMT

Interesting philosophy Joe.....Hillary is attacked by one of the clowns who "outed" a covert CIA agent, a man who once referred to the war in Iraq as a "winning (political) issue," the guy who "accidentally" erased thousands of RNC emails on his White House computer.....and your response is to attack HER.
That's a typical republiCANT tactic. You aren't a Democrat, plain and simple.
By the way, what did you expect from these two Bozo's, Rove and Limbaugh.
One is a closet queen who's ashamed of his sexual persuasion, and the other is a drug addict.

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Steve, San Diego — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:10:40 GMT

Amen Joe!!!

Go Obama

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Paw Paw, NC — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:10:57 GMT

It's all a show "don't look behind the curtain" the great and powerful wizard of OZ. Since the Republicans have pretty much concluded they are out of the White House Hillary Clinton is their choice and I think they will push any issue to promote her cause. Money talks and they don't care if you are Repubican or Democrat as long as you promote their cause.

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Democrat — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:12:12 GMT

Joe Justice, we're going to have to live with Karl Rove for the time being, even if he hasn't a leg to stand on with his "record" in the Bush Administration. He has no business attacking anyone.

But as far as attacking Hillary Clinton, one must attack her policies if she is running for President of the United States. Every single candidate's policies should be scrutinized.

What's unfortunate is that Karl Rove was speaking on Rush Limbaugh's radio program. The most ignorant talk show host in the country and Rove picks his program to talk about Hillary Clinton.

Rove will always have a voice when people such as Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Laura Inghram, Bill O'Reilly, Michael Savage, John Gibson and Chris Wallace have their own programs.

Fasten your seatbelts.

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csh, chicago — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:18:38 GMT

You are wrong Joe – The attacks only reaffirm how relentless the GOP is and how Hillary (and Bill) Clinton are the only ones who have managed to survive their attacks. That’s one of many reasons Hillary should be our candidate – she knows how to take the GOP on and WIN.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:19:11 GMT

Rove and The White House's efforts to keep a back and forth going with Clinton is an attempt to make her look like the de facto leader of the Democratic party; the neocons continue to elevate her, because they know if Obama or Edwards is the nominee, the Republican President has no hope of selling themselves as the change candidate, which could lead to a Presidential/Congressional landslide that buries the GOP in 2008. The only question is whether Democrats are going to let neoconservatives pick their nomineee, and throw a giant victory out the window just so Hillary Clinton can win with 51%.

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Julie in VT — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:25:54 GMT

Rove dares to call Democrats "effete"? Compared to whom? Him? His machismo armchair warrior party? LOL... Where's Jeff Gannon when ya need him?

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MK,MO — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:30:05 GMT

Joe Justice / good point joe, hillary is the only dem candidate I couldn't consider voting for, I ain't alone either, clinton represents everything that is wrong with washinton, all she has is the support of the hyper left femminazi man haters whom really have no interest in her policies just the fact she's female, that won't be enough for her to overcome the wrath that the repub's will unleash on her if she gets nominated, the dem party is trying as hard as it can to throw away another election, but it's still early maybe people will start looking at who hillary really is just another morally bankrupt pawn of big business and toss her to the curb before it's too late

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Ginger Speers, Waco, Tx. — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:31:19 GMT

###Breaking news### Karl Rove is resigned to being a continual idiot.That's all for now.

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Connie, Tn. — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:35:42 GMT

Rove needs to get a hobby. He's past history now. He had his chance to put someone in the White House and he did a lousy job of it!

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Jim H, San Jose, CA — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:36:15 GMT

Karl Rove responding to a campaign ad as "over the top"? hahahaha

On the Rush Limbaugh show HAHAHAHA

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Amy B Portland, ME — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:41:07 GMT

I'd send money to the Democratic Party if one of the candidates would tell off Rove like the Edwards told off Coulter. Yee ha!

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Sara N., Dallas, TX — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:43:45 GMT

I agree with Lyn. Rove is doing these things because he thinks that Clinton is the easiest to beat in the general election. Dem's, beware this sorry piece of trash. Hillary is an astute campaigner, but Rove is dirty, and as Lyn says, he knows exactly what he's doing and why.

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James Gingerich Waterloo Ontario Canada — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:46:22 GMT

It's all about Hillary. Please enough already. We all know what she's against (everything she can't take credit for) and what she didn't accomplish during her husband's administration. Please tell me that Americans can't be that gullible. I'm thinking an Gore/Obama ticket would give the Democrats their best shot at winning.

As for Hillary she is not "in it to win it" she is "in it to spin it". She will stand for anything that will get her elected.

Remember this. When her husband was impeached, she knew he was lying. And as First Lady she kept her mouth shut. Why? Because it was politically expedient.

What character or judgement does that show? Hillary has had her 8 years of "fame". And America has already paid the price of a Clinton administration. Surely by now the Democrats must have another worthy candidate without the baggage and the cold-hearted lust for power that Hillary brings to the table.

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Subba — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:46:36 GMT

Republicans are not stupid. They want Hillary. Then they can rally their troops, they can bring up lot of Clintons dirt and piss off independents and some democrats from voting. That gives them enough to win whitehouse. And the democrats will have cry again for another four years if Hillary is on the ticket.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:53:47 GMT

Actually, Hot Dam, I wish Rove was attacking Obama. He's a big wildcard playing himself to Clinton's advantage. This may prove to be the final piece she needs in the nominating race.

And for any Democrats who believe the Republicans are afraid of Clinton, surely you don't think Rove is so stupid as to not realize the gift he is giving her? Whatever else you might think of him - and I'd probably agree with you on most of it - he ain't no political dummy.

But the Clinton campaign is wrong, I believe, if they think it will make her look like the voice of change. Actually I don't think they do see it that way (sorry Mark Murray). It makes her look like she's fighting Bush. Clintons and Bushes fighting doesn't seem like much of a change. It will appeal to Democrats who want to continue the fight with Bush, thus helping her in the primaries.

But it won't appeal to independents, I don't think. And like Rove, Mark Penn is no political dummy either. But I guess he figures he'll worry about that after she gets the nomination.

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juan,ft lauderdale,fl — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:55:25 GMT

Rove must have beaten up as a kid...get look at his 70's picture. You are a despicable pile of dung of machiavelian proportions.

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juan,ft lauderdale,fl — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:58:09 GMT

mk- I guess Ann Coulter is the hyper right femminazi who hates men?

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Sonny in Tulsa — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:08:27 GMT

Joe is right. Many Democrats are very reluctant to support Hillary because she is so divecive. We have had enough of that for the past 6+ years to last a life time. It is time to find a candidate that can unite this country. And it is little weasels like Karl Rove (and Dick Cheney) who promoted the division of this country. Unfortunately, Bush did not have the intelligence and moral fiber to reject them. I have moved from both parties to Independent - both parties are so flawed anymore, I do not want to be associated with either.

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Rea Nantle — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:37:54 GMT

The Democrats are lining up so they can be kicked in the teeth by Karl. It really gives them credentials for their moon-bat lefty supporters who say "If Karl hates someone, and we hate Karl, then that someone must be the one for us!!". Loons. Obama and Edwards are on the phone (or Liz is in John Edwards case) trying to get Karl to notice them.

Karl is setting up Hillary to win the nomination, and then get the absolute snot kicked out of her in the general election.

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Frank Heflin Al — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:51:52 GMT

Pullease! No Hillary, she is the ultimate of deceit! Her claws are out in full force and teeth sharpened for ayyone that crosses her path. Her to run this country, YUK!

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Jim, Santa Cruz — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:55:44 GMT

Hillary is not my choice of candidate because we simply need a new direction. I do believe the GOP would love to have her run due to her high negative polling number. That said, I hope she and Bill realize that she could be far more effective in trouncing the republicans resoundly if she assumes a supporting role for Edwards or Obama or Gore, or perhaps runs as VP. Also, I was amused by Rove saying the president's most avid critics are "elite effete snobs" - only elite, effete snobs like Karl or Ann C. use such language.

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Joe Justice — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:57:34 GMT

Carrie in Iowa--ok, good nuance catch, but you have to admit that MSNBC and others in the media consistently regurgitate what the Hillary Clinton camp wants them to. This little blog snippet is of a whole cloth of Hillary is Inevitable BS that Democrats are forced to endure; I hear it all day long on MSNBC, how Hillary is such a survivor and a fighter and she's really making inroads with Democrats, and now how she is the change candidate. It's not based in fact. I don't know one true Democrat who has moved from Undecided or another Dem candidate and into the Clinton camp.

Everyone who keeps telling me how Hillary (and Bill) fight the nasty GOP machine and "WIN" conveniently forget the fact that Bill Clinton didn't use his presidency to strengthen Democratic Party ideals or create any substantive policy. His only contribution was to nominate good Supreme Court Justices.

That's our rub--Hillary keeps saying she can "WIN" and fight back, but what will she do when she wins? What is the value in winning if you don't have any backbone once victorious?

Hillary won't do anything but triangulate and spin her way into the meaningless center. Her Iraq position will be the template for her Presidency: bland, weak and insincere.

Democrats must demand a candidate who offers a true clean break, both in style and in substance. That's not Hillary Clinton. To call Senator Clinton the candidate of change is like calling George W. Bush a uniter and not a divider--it's a myth.

Democrats deserve better than Hillary Clinton.

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Casey in PA — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:13:33 GMT

Haha...Hillary is the biggest power hungry, manipulative politico to come down the pike (or crawl from a swamp) in a long time. Wow, pls explain what she has done besides be married to Mr. Cigar Bill? Oh, yeah, she carpetbagged her way to NY. Nice NY, way to go. I'll enjoy watching her implode over the next 18 months.

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Buzz — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:27:11 GMT

But he upside is- the Clinton war chest will be well stocked to buy plenty of ads so as to counter everything and everythinbg these slime-balls can try this time around. Also- Dems are at least aware of, and refusing to put up with, crap like the swift-boat nonsense. That, and I think the citizens are finally weaned off the fear teat.

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Sound Mind, Newburgh, NY — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:40:38 GMT

What's Hillary's accomplishment anyway. During her 8 years in White House as 1st lady, her only effort on healthcare reform was a total failure. Traveling around the world as 1st lady is not Foreign policy or international relationship experience. Winning in a democratic state like NY with a last name of Clinton against an unknown, light weight Rick Lazio can not be termed as "only surviver against right wing attack machine". It's not like she won in Senate in a Republican state defeating an incumbent Republican Senator. On Foreign policy she has been a Bush-Cheney shadow. In legislating, other than a handful bill helping 9-11 victims, I don't see "ANYTHING" she authored or co-authored that have had an impact on people's live. I don't like Rove but I don't see what MSM see. Where Hillary's experience is coming from, doing what, when? Republican attacked Bill, a good administrator with poor moral values, on his sex scandal that was not right wing attack machine's attack on Hillary.
Also this is 21st century. Right wing machine, liberal machine and constant fight between these machines are politics of last century. We need to look at where we agree on things/issues that matters most for American people and make progress. The days of my way or high way has been a total failure. Hillary and her pets in Meida need to learn this ASAP.

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vanreuter, NY NY — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 22:40:53 GMT

Yes, Karl Rove is telling you that the Republicans want to face Hillary Clinton because she will be easy to defeat. You believe him, because why would he lie to YOU? Better yet, it CONFIRMS your own prejudices, so, IT MUST BE TRUE!
If you really believe that Karl is saying this to help the Democratic party to win the White House in 2008,

Josh
LynMD
Shadow
Paul Miller
Subba
MK,MO
Joe Justice
jt, ok
Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio
Korie, Pennsylvania
Sara N., Dallas, TX
RAH
Steve, San Diego
James Gingerich Waterloo Ontario Canada
Sonny in Tulsa

Folks, I have a really beautiful bridge, in BROOKLYN, that is for sale at a very tempting price. I am sure that you all want to buy it.

Could you be more gullible?

Van

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Sandy Rae, Bishop, CA — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:02:24 GMT

Dems, dems, last time was win at all costs, THIS time it's go with someone who will rescue the country once they win. Take a look at who is voting for what in Washington DC and you will find all those Blue Dog Democrats we ran against bad Republicans voting with the Republicans for more power for Bush, Chaney, and Gonzales.

This time, let's know what they stand for, not just what party they decided to put behind their name.

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Margaret, Riverside, CA — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:17:56 GMT

LOL - I can't believe I'm agreeing with Karl Rove.
But Hillary is the Queen of Deception. She hasn't produced a health care plan in 15 years -but she's raking in the corporate moolah from the Insurance and Pharma industries now because - they want all Americans to have health care?? ROFL

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Lyn, MD — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:20:19 GMT

Van..yes if we believed otherwise.

I'm sure you'll be happy to know I solidified 5 more Obama supporters today. Everyone is tried of the fights of the 90's and they see Hillary as just prolonging those fights.

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DStormVet., IL — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:24:53 GMT

csh, chicago; What you need to realize is that;
1. Karl Rove retired from the White House so he could hide in the shadow's of the GOP nominee and do his best to discredit their opponent for President.
2. The GOP is hoping that Hillary gets the nomination because they know Rove will tear her apart and they have the best chance of winning with her as the opponent.
3. She will not now or ever convince the american people that she is the candidate for change when she accept's money from big business and keeps her record's from the Clinton Presidency under rap's.
4. She doesn't have any more "experience" in foreign policy, health care or immigration than Obama.
She is just another candidate with the same Washington insider's that will trade places with the one's that are already there.

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Tim Atlanta Ga — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:29:11 GMT

Coming from Karl Rove his comments mean nothing to me. I do suppoet Hillary as the nominee and Obama as the vp. Regardlss of what the Republicans have to say. We have had 6 years of such hell that any one is better than Bush and all his adminstrations secrets and lies.

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DStormVet., IL — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:29:49 GMT

Hey van, why don't you do some reading. Even the other Democrat's are worried about that! The GOP know their best chance to win the Presidency is to go up against Hillary! She has so many skeleton's that she is trying to hide and if there is one person that will dig them up it is Karl Rove. Now, I can't stand the guy, but he does know how to win election's. There is a reason they are doing their best to keep Hillary's record's locked up from the Clinton era and that's because it will show how much inexperience she really has along with god know's what else. It will show her for who she really is and that ain't much!

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Enrique, Chicago, IL — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:33:48 GMT

Rove is a complete moron. He is completely irrelevant. Though he's helped Bush divide this country and create a disaster in Iraq, he no longer matters. Shut up Karl.

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Lyn, MD — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:38:04 GMT

VAn..we know like you know that Rove expects Democrats to react/act just like you. Oh Hillary must be the one they are afraid of her. No he would NOT help the democrats and if he can help make sure Hillary goes to the GE if nothing else it will fire up their base. Couple that with her shaky base support and the Republicans have a shot

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Dillon — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:59:01 GMT

Thank You Joe and Thank you Sound Mind. I get depressed when I look at cable channels and have to get Hilary's inevitability rammed down my throat but reading the comments by most of the people here gives me hope that I'm not the only one that sees through her campaign strategy. She hasn't spoke about ANYTHING TANGIBLE and she is beatable.

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dee — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:14:12 GMT

It's Time to GROW up boys name calling your next President is very Tacky.President Hillary Clinton will remove all the trash from the White House and get this country accomplishing the important domestic issues that have been so overlooked in the past 6 years while Karl called the shots.Everyone around the WORLD will salute our courage when we bring forth our Intelligent,capable President Clinton to engage in clear peaceful,uncluttered Foreign Policy which this group never "got".Use your power for positive change in AMERICA!!!!!

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dee — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:15:39 GMT

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:22:44 GMT

Van - The argument is that Rove wants to help Republicans win in 2008, not Democrats. Stop telling cliched bridge jokes and learn how to read.

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diane — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:51:24 GMT

Just shoot me now. I never in my dreams thought I would ever agree with Rove on anything.
But, I must say the fatally flawed crack is on the money.

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nuanced — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:06:14 GMT

The Repubs are just playing Whack a Mole. They will whack whichever Democrat is riding the highest. Once that is accomplished they will start on the new highest riding Demcratic candidate. There is no clever plan or conspiracy; Hillary is just the mole with her head out the furthest.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:07:41 GMT

Van - you misunderstood, at least me. I'm not saying Rove is trying to "help the Democratic party to win the White House in 2008."

I'm saying he wants to help Clinton get the nomination because that's the best chance the Republicans have to win in 2008. I'm guessing that's what the others on your list are saying, too.

You just yesterday acknowledged White House response to Clinton's ad as a gift to Clinton, right? Maybe you think Perino didn't realize what she was doing - didn't realize she was providing her with this gift. But do you really think Rove doesn't understand that?

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rich ,minneapolis — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:10:40 GMT

i love it you liberals just live to hate rove. what a joke if you do not like what he says do not listen for as you know you of the elite left are so much smarter than us knuckle draggers who are right of you no matter how right we are stupid us.

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Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:29:52 GMT

Karl Rove is still a "winnie".And I still approve of this message.

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Karl Bratcher — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:30:22 GMT

Yes indeed, there's lots going on with the main thing bringing smiles to democrats and republicans alike in face of Karl Rove feeling the pinch and has been asked by his best buddy to cop out. I really believe there's a lot of BS being slung around concerning who the Republicans can beat in 08, fact is they couldn't beat my dog, let alone a human. Not after the way Bush has very effectively set his party back a hundred years. America could easily become a one political party nation soon.

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T.R. Hendricks, Norfolk, Neb. — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:32:05 GMT

I have read this drivel until it makes me sick to my stomach. I did not vote for Bush in 2000, nor did I vote for him in 2004. And I am not really likely to vote Republican in 2008. But to call Bush and the GOP such hateful, incriminating labels seems jugmental and hypocritical. It is also waxing old as the election is 15 months away.

I have 2 parents who love the GOP, whereas I do not. Do I attack them? No. Do I belittle their position? No. The fact is if you formulate your love and hate based solely on political thought, then you are no better than the Monsters who ruled Germany from 1933 to 1945. There was a time when our party refrained from such behavior.

As regards progress and failure, we have no room to judge as we have proven our own ineptness in Vietnam, Iran, the Middle East, and our own Administrations during the cold war, which was not a very large share. Remember the 18 percent inflation? and the 22 percent interest rates? The 444-day humiliation in Iran These are compliments of Jimmy Carter. The Republicans have had some inceredible failures as well, but calling a kettle black when you are a soot stained pot does not make things right. Let's face the fact: We attack Rove because he engineered our defeat tha same way the GOP attacks Clinton because he engineered their losses.

What we need to do is no matter what the outcome of the next election is, is to truly reach across the asile. Bill Clinton reluctantly did in in 1995 and had a very successful 6 years in the white house, even with a hostile congress and his own personal baggage. We need to realize that the GOP, despite their numerous flaws are human beings and fellow Americans. We need them and they need us if we are to stand a chance in a world who very much wants our nation to fall. Just look at the Monsters of Bin Laden, Chavez, and Ahmadinejad. They want us dead. We really need to put this hate rhetoric aside and concentrate on out real enemies.

As Benjamin Franklin was quoted at the Declaration of Independence Signing "We must hang together or we will be assuredly be hung seperately"

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:49:06 GMT

Sure enough - the NY Times is reporting the Clinton fundraiser has already gone out.

"Yesterday we launched our first TV ad of the campaign. Within hours the White House was on the attack... The best way you can help her respond today is by making a contribution."

Unlike my first foray into fundraiser writing, this one isn't parody. That's really what the Clinton campaign sent out.

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William E Barker III — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 02:54:12 GMT

Joe Justice is correct in initial acessment of the subject,everyone should know this ,I would go as far as saying he is a master poker player and a formidable chess player.
I personally donot like Karl but he has been a master of reverse phsycology, and the vast majority of you guys posting responses to this are continuing to fall prey to him once again.Are you so incensed that you no longer have the ability for rational thinking you are following suit just as if playing a game of hearts or spades,Do us all a huge favor and contemplate objectively for 1 min. and you should see the writing on the wall.
Karl Rove's tactics are no more than you would see in a middle school class election and he and people like him ,cna with great confidence know the general populus of our nation cannot see through this therefore this is why election after election our political process is reduced to slinging mudd and below the belt spun personal attacks , I call it the Jerry Springer Show or soap opera mentality and everyone falls in line just as these hired guns expect them to every time open your eyes America there will never be change as long you are as gullable as they know you are . One further note before you may try to brand me as repub or dem . Ill will tell you I am at odds with almost everyone here and at odds with both parties I am a constitutional conservative read the document and then you will understand and Im not afraid to id myself either

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nuanced — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:26:43 GMT

Pappy, we need you here.

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Edward, Sacramento CA — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:40:20 GMT

Let us reason for one second. Today the only reason Democrats have political edge over Republicans in opinion polls is due to war in Iraqi. If Hilary is nominated as candidate that advantage will instantly evaporate. Why? She co-authored the war and insisted on keeping the course until the war starts to seem un-winnable. When Hilary talks about change, she only refers to changing the political party in power and not changing the processes that led to the quagmire in Iraqi. Hence, Hilary cannot use Iraqi war as a winning proposition during the general election. If she were to talk about withdrawing troops from Iraqi, the counter response from Republicans is that she is a defeatist and wants to cut and run. Remember that withdrawing troops makes sense to Democrats and Independents. During the general election, the mud-slinging that will ensue will keep Independents from showing up to vote during the election.

On family issue, Hilary has no leg to stand on. Republicans will clean her out. On economic front, they will only tag her tax-and-spend Democrat for big government and social medicine.

We hear that Hilary knows how to defeat Republicans. Let us review few facts. Hilary campaigned for the seat of retiring Senator, Patrick Moynihan, a man that was highly respected and honored for his sharp intellect. New York is a liberal state. At the time Giuliani was to contest against Hilary but last minute he dropped out due to health reasons and Rick Lazio was quickly drafted. Most people at the time sympathized with Hilary for the humiliation he suffered during Lewinsky saga. Hence, Hilary never faced real Republican attack machinery. The events of 9/11 helped to consolidate her position as Senator and made her re-election much easier and Republicans did not find anybody of stature to compete with her. But in the general election, Hilary has to win non-liberal states where family value has high premium.

We must never forget that Al Gore and John Kerry were defeated by George Bush due to likeability index. People did not vote for Bush because he was a policy wonk but because they think he was likeable and they would not mind to have him in their bedrooms for four years.
If Giuliani were to face Hilary in the general election, states like New York, New Jersey, Ohio and California will be in play for Republicans. Giuliani will beat Hilary because he is seen as more authentic and likeable than Hilary. Please forget the opinion polls of today as meaningless. To win against Hilary, what Republicans can only do is to raise her un-favorability level a notch and the deal is wrapped up. If Democrats were to nominate Hilary, they are going to lose both Whitehouse and seats in the House and Senate. Hence, another occasion to lick their wounds after all is set and done. This is a clarion call to arm.

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Excel T Bueno — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:10:07 GMT

If Rove and Bush is the Dream Team , despite all of their scandals which dwarfs all of Billy Bubba sins combined, well, St Hillary the Redeemer is not bad at all.
Rove,Bush Rumsfeld and Gonzo...nanana,nanana,hey,hey,hey..goodbye!

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Justice League of America — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:18:44 GMT

Who is vanreuter?

"I am like Jet Li, one against about twenty, using only the facts to refute the hate-speech against Hillary."

"I am a voice for truth, against a vocal, virulent, anti-Hillary brigade"

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navy for hillary, honolulu, HI — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:30:59 GMT

it surprises me how misinformed the majority of americans are. hillary has done more in her time in the senate than you will ever admit to yourselves. the main reasoning for this is because for some reason, it has always been popular to trash hillary for being ambitious,deceitful, and a phony. look at her voting record. being in the military, i was hesitant to support her, but then i looked into her background. she has done more for the troops than she gets credit for, for our families and our quality of life. thing is, republicans used to have a lock on the miltary vote due to perceived weakness of the dems. this election will change that when she wins the nomination and her record on these issues are brought to light.
another point - when we invaded iraq like 80% of the general population supported it. don't be so quick to point fingers when you were probably one of those 80% at the time. the president flat out lied to the nation and got us in this mess, then overstepped his boundaries with his war authorization. you can blame hillary as much as you like, but i admire her for not apologizing. if she did, she wouldn't have this backbone that most of you seem to think she is without. she made a conscious decision at the time with the facts that we all were given. to shift the blame off bush and to each member of congress only helps him escape the responsibility of his office.
we as a nation, at that point in time, had the wool pulled over our eyes as well.
this talk about obama bringing hope and change to the white house? that worked for kennedy in the 60s when we faught conventional wars. the fact of the matter is, at the end of the day, hope doesn't stop terrorism and hope doesn't build the economy. hope is for the hopelessly lazy and ineffective.
hillary will win and a lot of people will be surprised. she's faught the GOP for 16+ years in the public spotlight. as first lady, she was bill's surrogate. the world loves the clintons and they always had center stage because they knew how to work people. good or bad, that's diplomacy.
laura bush and the other first ladies are glorified housewives who's biggest accomplishment is redecorating the east wing; hillary has always been her own person. research CHIP and what she has done for Reserve Forces for proof.
there's nothing more they can dig up about her. she's the most organized of either party, and that is the machine that wins elections.

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Judy Kilgore Gadsden, Al — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:31:59 GMT

Would someone please explain to me what Hillary was supposed to do when her husband cheated on her and what that has to do with her presidential qualifications? If I am a surgeon and my husband cheats on me, does that mean I'd better not operate tomorrow, or ever?

Some of these comments exemplify how the conservative, so-called Christians have come to vicariously rule this country and why we have ended up with someone like George Bush in the Oval Office. His henchman, Karl Rove, has played to the basest instincts and most ignorant prejudices in the conservative populace and evidently, they are still out there in full force. He is still playing them and they are still stupidly responding.

However, it isn't only Republicans who are ignorant. There are Democrats who match them point by point on IQ tests. It defies logic that some of these people actually think that the Republicans are trying to trick them into voting for Hillary! Yes, we all know that Hillary is secretly beloved by the desperate Republicans. Or, alternatively, that they want their Republican candidate to run against her. Dear God.

One person complained that Hillary didn't accomplish anything when her HUSBAND was president, as though this was highly unusual and uncalled for in a First Lady. One stated that she had already had 8 years of fame, as though fame is what being president is all about. Several have accused her of being power-hungry, as though this were an aberrant trait in a politician, or in any highly ambitious person.

I could go on and on, but I won't; it's a waste of time. It's also depressing to think that there are so many illogical, prejudiced, unthinking, petty, and childish voters in this country. Whether they are Democrats or Republicans,it disturbs me to think that they vote mindlessly and emotionally. As I said, I understand how George Bush ended up in the Oval Office. I further understand how hard it will be for a woman to ever occupy the space.

Heaven help us all.

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Stephennnn, Portland, OR — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:34:47 GMT

No doubt the Repugs want Clinton to run if for the reason that she riles up their conservative base. The issue now is if that base still exist and whether after these tormenting years they hold any political leverage. I think not. The polls show a dramatic shift by independents way from the right. Like our famous president said..Fool me once shame onn.. ... Just don't wanna get fooled again. They repugs know how to run a dirty campaign and I'm sure the gay marriage and abortion issues will be brought out full force against the dems. But the dems have been taking notes.....

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Judy Kilgore Gadsden, Al — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 12:17:21 GMT

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WDRussell, East Liverpool, Ohio — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:10:50 GMT

So Bush's brain cancer wants to speak and the right wing media acts like it is from on high.
Karl is the best endorsement Hillary can have.

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Susan, Miami — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:13:54 GMT

Hey guys, there is very little left the repubs can throw at Hillary that they already haven't tried. And they will lie, make up stories and try and swiftboat ANY dem candidate. My God, they already tried the Hillary is a lesbian card, which as everyone knows is the SCARIEST thing for any female to be called(being sarcastic). Her husband cheated on her and she tortured him for awhile and they got back together...and whip dee doo! Sounds like tons of marriages in America. All the so called scandals are already out there. And Van, keep up the good work. However, I think that half those names on your list are really goofy ass Jerry, by the way..

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bb — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:16:05 GMT

I noticed lots of men saying extra nasty things about Hillary. Whats the matter boys, a bit insecure about a woman running the country?

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chris carpenter — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:24:27 GMT

hopefully karl rove will keep a seat warm in hell for his good ol buddy, bush.

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bb — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:46:37 GMT

Hmm, the word moonbat comes up again from Rea? I thought that was Ruperts word, Jerry is that you again, spewing anti Hillary messages?Jeeerrrryyy!!!!

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MK,MO — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:47:36 GMT

Judy Kilgore Gadsden, Al / I am amazed that people who claim superior intelligence can not see that hillary is unelectable, or I should say refuse to admit she is unelectable, the republicans most definitely want hillary nominated because they know they can beat her, sorry

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MK,MO — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:07:49 GMT

bb / it always seems that anytime a male brings up any of the endless negative aspects of hillary you ladies always lob the sexist bomb like some third grader on the school yard playground, this ain't the 80's no one is against hillary because of her gender, although it's obvious that many support her for that reason only, she is a deceptive republican clone who only cares about herself and her elitist buddies, she won't answer any of the important questions, she’s already owned by corporate america and you all know it, and if nominated she will lose the general election, find a decent female candidate and she will get elected, hillary ain't it.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:08:27 GMT

MK - Read what Judy actually said. Did she say that she doesn't think that Hillary is unelectable? I don't see that phrase, or anything similar to it, in her entire post. Which, by the way, is dead on, particularly that bit about ambition. If you don't think Obama is ambitious, those rose-colored glasses must be fitting very well.

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bb — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:14:50 GMT

MK, repubs love confused people like you. So you'll be voting republican if Hillary gets the nomination I suppose? Bashing Hillary is what they want us to do.

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vanreuter, NY NY — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:20:43 GMT

It isn't Senator Clinton who is perceived as unelectable;

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/15/opinion/polls/main3170310.shtml

Among Democratic primary voters, 76 percent think Clinton can win, as do 54 percent for Obama.

Sen. Hillary Clinton is seen as the one with the right experience to be president. Clinton continues to hold a commanding lead over Obama, 45 percent to 25 percent, among those planning to vote in a Democratic primary. Former Sen. John Edwards is third with 14 percent.

More than half of voters (51 percent) think Obama, a first-term U.S. senator from Illinois, does not have the right kind of experience to be a good president, compared with 29 percent who think he does.

On the other hand, 59 percent of voters think Clinton, the former first lady and a two-term senator from New York, has the right experience, while 35 percent think she does not."

It is nice to see intelligent, thoughtful posts, from Hillary supporters, showing that you can support your candidate without having the need to demonize your opponent(s).
I am sure that the challengers to Hillary are as aware as their supporters that after many debates and thousands of articles, the polls remain essentially unchanged, and in Hillary's favor by a wide margin, especially on the national level. While the numbers themselves are impressive, it's the consistency, from poll to poll and from week to week, despite the best efforts of her main challengers to, "shake up", the race. In addition, the internal numbers as to who is perceived as a strong leader, able to win the general election, and even an agent for change, all favor Senator Clinton by such a wide margin, that some of her closest competitors in the race are at single digits of support.
The race is static, because despite the rhetoric and invective, Senator Clinton is seen by the majority of democratic voters to not only be the most electable, but the most competent and best prepared to lead.

Van

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H P Boston — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:35:00 GMT

bb I think jerry has swimming lessons today, it is no float-ties day!

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H P Boston — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 14:57:28 GMT

TR Hendricks, Norfolk Neb
It is good that you shield your old folks.
I sent your post to Bin Laden, Chavez and Ahmadinejad.
Told them to cool it that WE do not hate anyone, so you can relax. Bush is ALMOST gone.
Now we can all hold hands and sing gospel songs.
No more dirty politics, turn the other cheek and the meek shall inherit the earth and all that good stuff.
etc. etc......

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bb — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:52:38 GMT

HP ha ha! You made me laugh,thanks. Instead of Jerry we got MK who thinks Hillary is a "deceptive republican clone". Now thats even funnier. Putting Clinton and republican in the same sentence. Whew!

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H P Boston — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:53:09 GMT

Van it is good to see the polls are still holding for Senator Clinton. The bashing will soon be strong and hardy from the trolls.
I think you should screw in a typo and show Obama up a few notches. The roar will be loud on just how really, really good polls are then!
just saying.

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MK,MO — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:19:05 GMT

Carrie, Eastern Iowa / I was making the point about hillary being unelectable I didn't say judy made such a comment, being sarcastic, get it? bb I agree they're are many confused people posting here take a look in the mirror and you'll see one

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PAM, CA — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:39:19 GMT

Rove has a brillant mind. I will give him that, however, it is also warped, sick and incapable of seeing the other side of humanity. You must be a rich WASP for him to care. He lacks common sense. I work behind the orange cutain (Orange County) and the only people I hear who want Senator Clinton out are Republicans. They do fear her and they realize that she may win. I am for Clinton, but will support whoever the Democratic candidate is for President. Rove fears that more than anything. His bid for greatness is gone.

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nuanced — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 16:56:35 GMT

"What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" -- Nick Lowe/Elvis Costello

dedicated to H P Boston

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Anonymous — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:58:35 GMT

What is Barack Obama up to? What is Hillary Clinton doing? What are the other candidates up to?
The quick answers:
Barack Obama is turning into George Bush. In fact, Obama is defending George Bush. George Bush is not to blame for our problems, says

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H P Boston — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:22:55 GMT

I never heard that song nuanced, hum me a few bars.

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Keith, Huntington Beach, CA — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:14:56 GMT

Karl Marx er Rove, the unindicted traitor, the still in the closet, sex slave of Jeff Gannon, calls up Rush Limbaugh, a confessed drug addict, smuggler, and gossip monger and he slams Hilliary Clinton and this has-been, this use ta was's rantings mean what to whom? It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing!

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Keith, Huntington Beach, CA — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:14:58 GMT

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cheryl, Arizona — Thu, 16 Aug 2007 23:41:13 GMT

Does antbody care what has been Rove thinks or the Bush people. I don't. I think for myself so should everyone else.

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nuanced — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 16:21:09 GMT

hmmmm hmm hmmmmm mmm uuhhh mmmm maa humm

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H P Boston — Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:27:36 GMT

ha ha ha lol lol nuanced I hear it now! Man that tune will be stuck in my head all day. Thanks.
You may need a larger violin, the one you used is way to small