Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:43:55 GMT

Hillary's not exactly lighting fires in the Forrest when she speaks to crowds.

Kucinich probably did as well with meetings in Syria as Nancy Pelosi did. You don't hear anything about Foreign Policy coming from Pelosi lately do you?

Edwards got the steelworkers and the carpenters. Sounds like a double feature rock concert. I wonder if the car unions will back him after his stupid mistake the other day? John Edwards tells everybody to get rid of their SUV's while he has two of them parked in his driveway. Kind of reminds me of Pat Buchanan and John Kerry.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

David, Chattanooga, Tn — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:21:02 GMT

EDWARDS 08!

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:30:36 GMT

I like Richardson, but what in the world does that mean? God has a stake in presidential nominations?

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

lyn, MD — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:45:54 GMT

Richardson "Bless his heart" is another example why "EXPERIENCE" isn't everything (who really has more experience than he does)but "JUDGEMENT" matters.

He has no judgement when it comes to chosing how to express hisself. Who knows what he ment ??? He probably doesn't.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Pat, Huntington, NY — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 14:59:22 GMT

Lyn, your statement through true, is ironically true, since he was our chief diplomat at the UN! You'ld expect someone like that would be able to express himself in a way others can understand. Too bad, and what a shame, because he is indeed, the most experienced among the democratic field.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Sierra, SF — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:21:37 GMT

" Many Indian executives consider Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Democrat of New York, more sympathetic to their industry, but they are concerned that she will be compelled to match the others’ statements in a tight contest."

Don't worry, Hillary will lie to the American people about out-sourcing American jobs to India and China.
Hillary has consistantly worked with Idnian out sourcers.

After working for Wal-Mart for so many years, Hillary consistently supports 'opening up' American markets to China !!

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 15:58:32 GMT

Richardson is a gaffe machine, when he stated he is making a mistake a week during the ABC debates he wasn't joking. Because the MSM refuses to accept that Iowa polls are meaningless, because they don't even start with a valid poll sample (when 80% of those polled have not ever and won't attend the 08 caucus [regardless of what they tell a pollster], their opinion is meaningless, and the sample invalid). People on the ground in Iowa who are actively working for a candidate know several things. 1. Edwards is leading Iowa, but a number of his supporters in 04 are not supporting him now. He still is well ahead of anyone else, but he had 31.8% in 04, and he is no longer that high. It is anyone's guess whether Hillary or Obama is in 2nd or 3rd. They could be tied right now, or Obama could be ahead. They are both behind Edwards. The MSM puts Richardson in 4th in Iowa (based on inherently invalid polls). The polls do have him in 4th, but that is due to his large media buy. He was the first with commercials, starting in early May, and has had commercials non stop ever since. No candidate has ever had this type of media buy this early and this sustained. He has run more commercials than all the other candidates combined. The polls reflect name ID. Richardson's ads have been great (very funny, but highlight his diverse career at the same time). However, on the ground he has lost support, because he has performed poorly in the debates, and has not been able to connect in small group meetings, and continues to make gaffe after gaffe. gay=choice, Iowa is one of the top ten states at risk for terrorist attack (the most odd pandering any candidate has engaged in!) Blowing off the Hawkeye Labor Council Presidential forum in Cedar Rapids shortly before the forum despite agreeing to it 3 months earlier, because he needed his sleep before the debate the following morning in Des Moines [apparently he needs more sleep than Biden, Clinton Dodd, Edwards, Kucinich or Obama, because they all kept there commitment], and now he says there are divine reasons why Iowa should go first? Richardson tries to blow off these gaffes by saying "I'm not a blow dried candidate [reference to Edwards?] what you see is what you get... I speak the truth...." Richardson is qualified but electability is important to Iowans, and starting with the first debate in late April in So. Carolina, and continuing to the present more and more people who previously supported Richardson have gone elsewhere or are looking elsewhere. I am a previous Richardson supporter, I have never left a campaign that I made a large contribution to (in early March), and who I committed to the candidate personally that I'd volunteer on his campaign, but by mid July I withdrew my support. Most people on the ground think Biden is actually in 4th, and Richardson is in 5th and could sink further.

The media doesn't attend most candidate events other than Clinton, Edwards, and Obama events, so they don't get a feel for crowd turn out, and reception to the candidate. If they ignored the polls for awhile, and actually looked at the candidates, not necessarily equally, but followed them a bit, they would see what is happening on the ground is not what is being reported.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:05:07 GMT

The sleeper big point is another story about questionable fundraisers for Clinton. I'm torn between thinking this will all start to seem a little too sleazy and thinking that the party won't be surprised by this and is willing to give Clinton a pass on anything touching on ethics.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Molly, Iowa City — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:06:08 GMT

Pat, Huntington NY

I don't know that Richardson is the most experienced among the field, he's had the most diverse career (15 years in congress, UN ambassador, Energy secretary, and now Governor), but I think Biden has more experience. He was elected to the Senate in 1972 at 29, He's served on the judiciary and foreign relations committee. He is the only candidate in any party who spoke out about our risk of terrorism prior to 9/11. Even though Hillary was in the WH, and would have known of the risks, and Richardson should have known as a cabinet member.

I think he would have had a better shot at VP a position he has admitted he'd take, if he hadn't run. Now (fortunately for the eventual nominee) he has publicly exposed himself as a gaffe machine!

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Josh — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 16:44:43 GMT

I would gladly give a year of national service in exchange for the forgiveness of student loans. Too bad it will never happen.

By the way, am I imagining things, or did Clinton take her "Well, with me, you don't have to choose" line directly from Richardson? I believe he said nearly the exact same thing in one of the "debates".

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:16:44 GMT

Sara, the media will continue to push its conventional wisdom as gospel, until it abruptly changes what it sees as conventional wisdom.

To some degree, I've seen a pendulum effect with media conventional wisdom. They seem in love with someone for a while, until their not. They ignore another candidate for a while, until they don't.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Joe Independant — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:22:06 GMT

Josh...of course she did, just like she is now having a "have a lunch" with Hillary. She has not had an original thought in 15 years.

BTW...she should go easy on those lunches..in a minute she will be wobbling on the stage. But then again Bill likes them BIG (Monica)

Before all of you hillary nuts go crazy...get use to it, because its going to come. Do you actually think all of the dirt, jokes and puns from the past are not going to be brought up...so lighten up. If the American people don't remember now they will before its all over. The question will be how much do they want to relive the past Clinton scandels.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Tuck,Btown, Kansas — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:50:40 GMT

interesting to note that the GOP is afraid of Clinton getting the nomination.... they want Obama.
The GOP wants the nomination to go to Obama.... so that the democrats don't win.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Mags Wheeler — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 17:59:56 GMT

>> interesting to note that the GOP is afraid of Clinton getting the nomination... <<

No. We want Clinton.

>> they want Obama. <<

Obama is the second choice. First choice is Clinton.

>> The GOP wants the nomination to go to Obama.... so that the democrats don't win.

Democrats won't win regardless. It's just that it will be more fun to watch Clinton humiliate herself.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Tony, Dallas TX — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 18:03:39 GMT

Why is the MSM ignoring this about HRC? We the voters can see what's going on and we will surprise the pundits come IOWA. GO OBAMA 08!!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2007/09/01/hillary-s-history-accepting-contributions-felons-ignored

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Molly, Iowa City — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 19:03:45 GMT

Tuck, Btown, Kansas & Mags Wheeler
If you really think the GOP fears Clinton, and wants Obama, you both are either political novices, or a little off. Seriously I shouldn't demean you, but the GOP wants Hillary as the opponent, they believe they will kill her in the general. The popular vote might be closer than they think, but they will win the electorial vote. They are actually afraid of Obama, because they aren't sure whether they can defeat him or not. Whether they are right or not (I believe they are right)the majority of GOP activist, and party regulars believe they can beat Hillary. Even Hillary supporters in Iowa acknowledge that the GOP wants Hillary to win (as has Carville, and other Clinton cheerleaders), but they claim that the GOP is misguided, just as the Democrats were when they wanted Reagan to win in 1980. The Democrat response has been "be careful what you wish for", I disagree that the GOP is wrong to see Hillary as the weakest general election candidate, but I do agree with Carville et al that the GOP wants Hillary to win.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Anthony Palmer — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 22:41:28 GMT

Despite the polls, I really do believe Iowa is a tossup.

It seems like Edwards, Obama, and Clinton all have soft support because they all have one fatal flaw (likability or inexperience). Richardson looks good on paper, but is not coming across well in person or in the debates. Biden and Dodd are there and can fill the void that Richardson isn't--a competent statesman. Richardson is most certainly competent, but his gaffes are very Bush-like--in a bad way. Dodd has the money to go the distance and Biden is a much more compelling speaker. Also, if inexperience is the issue, then that should knock both Obama and Edwards out of contention.

I expect Iowa to surprise again in '08.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Terri, Plantation, FL — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:00:10 GMT

You're exactly right, Molly... and yes, that Hillary line 'change and experience - with me you get both' was a direct steal from Bill Richardson's statement at the debate. I sometimes wonder if she has a authentic thought in her head.

The informed electorate are really getting fed up with the obvious bias toward Hillary and the selective memory failure of her supporters. Those of us old enough, who have been watching her for a long time, see her for what she is, and if the rest of the population falls for the same kind of political spin that's been going on since 2000 and 2004, we deserve to get the same kind of phony, conniving politician and failed leadership we've gotten the last 7 years.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Shadow, Hamden,CT — Tue, 04 Sep 2007 23:39:11 GMT

Sara - Wow, what a fantastic analysis of the Iowa Democratic Caucus as the race stands today; I agree completely with every word of you said, and it's probably the most accurate report of the field in Iowa that I've ever read. Nicely done.

Richardson is an embarassment; claiming divine rights for Iowa is Bush-level dogmatic pandering from a NM Governor whose main sell is supposed to be that he's a straight shooting guy.

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

diane — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 03:31:58 GMT

I think the media obsession with Hillary is what is driving the polls and the misconception that Obama is not experienced enough.
I never see them broadcast stories about the foreign policy big names endorsing Obama. Actually you never hear about any endorsements for Obama. But, at the same time, because Obama thinks for himself and answers the way he feels (and turns out to always be right) he is vilified by the pundits as being inexperienced and making 'gaffes' because he doesn't answer in the CW. It is at it's worse on your network.
And no matter how much it turns out he is right and Hillary is wrong, you never see a back track or apology or even someone acknowledging it.
Many are left with the impression that the CW is right and Hillary is right and Obama is wrong. it leaves a very false impression.
You couple this with the msm touting Hillary as having a vast amount of experience. Her experience is the same as Laura bush, Rosalyn Cart and Nancy Reagan. But, this is never made clear.
Then, while blurring the experience of Clinton, the msm discounts Obama's very real experience in the state senate and as a constitutional law professor.
So, many false impressions are given to the viewers and never is their a correction or have it cleared up and the real story is put out to correct the msm false reporting.
It is a sad disservice to the people. That is how we ended up with Bush.
The same thing happened. Clinton, like bush, is never held to answer the questions, or make clear her stands and is given a totally free pass. At the same time, like the way the media ganged up on Gore, they are doing so with obama.
It is extreemly irresponsible in not informing the public of the truth and pushing a personal agenda. With the state of our country from the last time the media played this game, we cannot afford for them to force their bias and choice down our throats with misinformation.
it scares me. People may find out too late the real story but, they are stuck with a very wrong candidate in Hillary because of these irresponsible games.
It is long past time for the media to do it's job and not only present truthfully information about the candidates but, to vet and take away the free pass given to their favorite
this country deserves better

Oh-eight (D): Biden: Iowa or bust

Jillian, Chandler, Az — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 18:45:15 GMT

Senator Biden is in Iraq - going to find out first hand the truth about the surge.

I cannot believe that his trip wasn't even mentioned.

If Hillary went - it would be all over this site.
But then again - Hillary is heading out to campaign in Florida...along with Barack.
Priorities!!

Please wake up people. Aren't you ready for real leadership this time?