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jerry/corpus christi texas — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:39:54 GMT

Doesn't surprise me....

Liberals don't like our troops anyway, probably spit on them in the airports when they come home.......

Moveon.Org....all they did was make sure the new York Times doesn't go out of business by buying ads. With their readership down, they would take any kind of ads.

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CJ — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:42:54 GMT

Soundbites mean nothing...this matter requires rigorous public debate on national TV. 08 Presidential run perhaps.

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JIrby, Colorado — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:48:20 GMT

If Petraeus wasn't on board with the Bush exit strategy of handing the war over to the Democrats in
'09, he wouldn't be there. Gen. Shinseki is the last general who disagreed with Bush.

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Dave, Tn — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:01:25 GMT

They bought the party, and they own it. What do expect the dems to do?

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M. Boley — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:05:14 GMT

Well surprise surprise... another 'glittering generality' from Jerry.

Got any proof to back that tripe up or are you just spouting off again as usual? Are you auditioning for Rush's spot or do you have wild ambitions for competing against him?

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Holly Oswalt, Canton Michigan — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:21:36 GMT

Our troops MUST stay, listen to the general. Thousands will be slaughtered by moving out to soon. Think of just the hate towards christians in that country, with no protection they will be hunted down and killed! Don't get me wrong i want our troop home but it is to soon.

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Siegfried, Central Illinois — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:24:37 GMT

Jerry--
Things so bad that you're resorting to the rhetorical equivalent of saying "Your mother wears army boots"?
And I notice you're following the pattern of going after the boogieman of MoveOn.org rather than anything resembling reasoned debate. Disappointing.

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Bob Kelleher, Long Beach, CA — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:26:03 GMT

Why are attack ads written by GOP affiliated groups okay and not the ads by DEM affiliated groups? While I found the Moveon.org disturbing at first, but it made me think about whether I could trust anyone associated with the Bush Administration anymore.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:27:15 GMT

jerry/corpus christi texas--
We have buried pieces of one and welcomed home with Bar-B-Que and beer the 40% disabled one. Your assumption that all families with people on the ground in Iraq are Conservative Republicans is as wrong and simple minded as you are. Nice to see you back. You make a great poster child for everything that is wrong with this country.

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Pitous — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:29:28 GMT

Another message from the Bush presidency, Petraeus would not dare cross the lines of Bush Cheney McCain etc. Petraeus is covering his ass with Bush's cloak. He should borrow Cheney's rifle and go hunting instead. What are we gaining in this war, our young men and women, fathers and mothers sons and daughters have been killed or severely maimed. It has also caused problems in marriages, and have left widdows and widdowers broke and a very dismal look in their futures. Forget Irag, we had no business there in the first place. Let's get the hell out of Irag, our country is now in debt worst than it has ever been, don't look for Bush,Cheney and all the candidates running for president to help fill up the coffers for the national debt. Bush you are a disgrace to this nation.

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I WONDER WHY? — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:29:54 GMT

Why do repukes hate our country?
Why do repukes believe Betrayus?
Why do the repukes vote for insane people?
Why do repukes live in hot climates?
Why do repukes love war?
Why do repukes hate different people.
Why do repukes hate to share?
Why do repukes act like 4 year olds?

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Marge Griffin Hollow Rock, TN — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:32:37 GMT

No, Jerry, I think your wrong. No one would spit on our troops, however one might spit on Bush. Petraeus would likely not be spat on either, even tho' we all knew how his argument was going to go. And, give him the benefit of the doubt, after all he is a soldier too. Mos of us want to hear something more concrete about when this total mess is going to end. Now it seems there will be troops near the borders of Iran, and that is going to please the heck right out of them. So, to sum it all up, guess we're there for however long.........these troops who have had 3 or 4
trips to Iraq should come home forever.
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Betty, Baltimore, MD — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:33:11 GMT

Shut up Jerry. I don't spit on our troops. I hate MoveOn and am a GIANT LIBERAL.

Stick to gossip, you silly gossip girl.

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John, Pa. — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:38:37 GMT

JI: You're right, Shinseki WAS an honest patriot, had a viewpoint that proved correct and was escorted out. The Bush-boy lied to get us into Iraq in the first place and lies to keep us there. Fool me once, shame on you...

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:50:06 GMT

I can't believe McCain and Romney blew their statements; McCain by invoking McCarthyism (WTF? People blacklisted in the 50's WISH Joe McCarthy only put an ad up about them in the paper), and Romney by citing O'Hanlon, the known war propagandist who pretends to be a critic. If either of these guys gets the nomination, they are going to get creamed in the general. Thompson and Guiliani have a slight chance of winning the general, but only if Hillary is nominated; if Obama or Edwards get the nomination, no Republican stands a chance in 2008, no matter how much they cry about blogs and web sites.

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DEMs fighting Back Against Demonic Wingnuts — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:53:25 GMT

For a man with an Ph.D from Princeton, GEN Betrayus sure looks more and more like Jerry's stupid crowd. I wish one politician had guts enough to stand up to Bush. Shame on you General for not being honest. What's the worst that could happen to you, W remove you for cause? You would be a hero if he did.

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Doug, San Diego — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:00:42 GMT

Jerry, even the stories of Vietnam vets being spit on in airports are bogus. You may have noted that many veterans who are against this war, and some who are liberal like me, post here. How could we hate those who chose to sacrifice and serve as we did? I wouldn't even spit on our moron commander in chief, or the fools who support him. Go watch some Faux news or head for the recruiters office, critical thinking is quite obviously beyond your grasp.

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Joe Houston, TX — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:02:17 GMT

Good post irby, this administration has rebuked quite a few generals before they found a yes man for their war. Most of the former generals said it would take far more men than was being sent to do the job and this admin. did'nt listen. Now that they found a yes man,they now want the rest of us to listen to the general now! More hipocracy. Hannity today said it was a disgrace for anyone to smear this general, yet the republicans had no problem smearing Kerry who is also a decorated soldier. Any troop who goes to battle and takes fire from the enemy is a hero in my book, but the chickenhawks found no disgust in smearing him. More hipocracy as usual. Jerry, I have two family members who are in Iraq at this moment and for you to say that we would spit on them as they returned home is so naive and vicious. I only wish that they could come home from a terribly thought out war with no conceivable victory in sight, and no clear definition of success other than quelling sectarian violence that has continually plagued this region since the beginning of time. You sir are no American, you are only a republican, and yes there is a big difference.When you continue to support bad policy just because you are strapped to a banner and follow blindly (with out reservation) when your common sense should be telling you otherwise, you are no American. Jerry, just keep waving your Republican Banner while the rest of us wave our American flag.

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HOT DAM — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:04:30 GMT

I LOVE MOVE ON and jerry inspires me to give yet ANOTHER donation. I loved the AD as much as I HATE the SHRUB. RIGHT ON MOVE ON!!!

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Roland — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:08:10 GMT

Jerry from Corpus....that is a ridiclous remark to say on a forum of any kind. NO PERSON hates our troops but we do hate how this war got started.

I have had two brothers and a nephew over there-my nephew just went back for his 3RD COMBAT TOUR they are doing a job that you don't have the courage to do.

I have served my time -20 years as a Hospital Corpsman in the Navy and I still hear from folks I know.

And if you honestly ASK them "Can we achieve what we expect....they will say NO"

Unless you and your types want another " Wall" for this war; get used to this fact. They don't want us there and they don't want the present government.

BTW I don't like MoveOn.Org anyway.

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Wayne — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:16:45 GMT

It's a shame that most Republicans think that our soldiers are an arm of their party. It does a dis-service to what this county is about. I can guarrantee two things: 1. Should any soldier speak out against the war after having served, the right wing attack machine will be all over them, (in fact I saw this on FOX last week). 2. Every vocal Republican that supports this war, most likely is cowering in a corner of their house afraid of the Al-Qaeda boogie man , not giving a second of though about serving their country and truly supporting this war. The extreme volume of support from the Right stems from their guilt of really not supporting this war with "their" lives. So, if you support this war and haven't served, shut up and go enlist, so that we can relieve these boy and girls from their 3rd and 4th tour. That's the support they need from you, not a post to a forum on MSNBC.

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Bob — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:20:17 GMT

Hey Jerry, your a good fighter in your safe hideout,
how about taking your war monger friends Bush,Cheney,the Republican congress and get between those guys who have been killing each other for 1500 years in the name of religion and send our American service men and women home where they will be loved and respected! and safe........

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:26:55 GMT

You libs hate the armed forces so much it makes me sick to even think about it. Clinton proved that when he ran the military into the ground in the 90's. You libs can talk all you want to about how much we need the troops home. The fight is way far from over. In fact, I shudder to think you people today would have negotiated with Japan and Germany after a year of fighting in WW2. But that is why our father's and mothers sacrificed so you idiots on the left can scram at the top of the mountain about giving up and taking your ball and going home. Our parents handled it differently. That's why they are called "the greatest generation", while we are called 'the dumbest generation".

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Repub — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:32:00 GMT

I WONDER WHY? Why? you silly lib you're mis-informed that's why. You live in a fantasy world that's why. I wonder why you don't wake up?

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John Doe, The Peanut Gallery — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:46:16 GMT

Jerry,

I don't think you actually read any of the comments responding to you. Otherwise you would have to be knowingly calling two members of the armed services and a father (I assume that Gary is the father of the two people he mentioned from the tone) of two combat vets anti-millitary. Then again, you're a neo-con desperately trying to cling to an illusion, so I won't put it past you.

At the end of the Jerry, you can rail about the cuts in the military under Clinton if you like. But it was George W that deployed hundreds of thousands of our men and women oversees on the basis of information that a third grader could have told you was false, then redployed them without allowing the regulation home stay lengths, failed to adequately equipment them with body armor in the field, cut their medical benefits, allowed Walter Reed to fall into disrepair, and generally treats the average foot soldier like a day laborer.

And you have the unmitagated nerve to say that the liberals hate the military?!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:46:19 GMT

Joe in Houston:

They still have the American flag in Houston?......
back in May, I saw so many Mexican Flags walking down the streets of Houston, I thought Santa Ana was back to get his revenge for San jacinto....

Watching this shameful and stupid parade on TV today of liberals who called Petraus a Liar before he even gave them the report shows just what a bunch of cowards and yellow dogs the democratic party has become. My guy was on there, he is a democrat and he was VERRRRRY careful about what he was saying. he knows the republicans are taking over south Texas and he knows which side of the bread his butter is on. This is the ultimate military town and anybody gets caught dissing our troops here might as well move to San Francisco or some other yellow dog town, we don't want you here and we damn sure don't need you here!

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Bret d — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:47:07 GMT

Talk all you want, we are not leaving Iraq anytime soon, we will be using Iraq for a staging point for a invasion of Iran if neccessary. Nothing will happen to America while GW is President the terrorist are waiting for a week Democrat to come to office but that will not happen in 2009 because Fred Thompson will be our next President God Bless America and God Bless Fred Thompson...

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Dale August Brenden , Houston, Texas — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:47:24 GMT

It seems to me MoveOn must be getting funds from Al Qaeda and their supporters, their rhetoric is the same and their goals are the same apparently, like all anarchists they prefer to damage reputations and attack the democracy that gives them the freedom to spout their vile poison.

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Lee Holmes — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:53:29 GMT

Critical thinking is also beyond the grasp of MOVEON [Remarks,MOVEON president:''We paid for this party[Democrats],we bought it,and now we are going to keep it''].They have accused Americas top combat general of ''betraying''his nation. This is patent BS,to coin a phrase. Rather,it is MOVEON and their leftist henchmen palling around with Syrian thugs,HEZBOLLAH ''freedom fighters'',and AL AQSAS killers who have done the most to betray the very ideal of the ''support''of our nations soldiers.
Todays POLITICO [a liberal-centrist political publication and news service of All Things Washington]. ''On condition of anonymity,one [Democrat] senator stated that ''we cant go on televsion and call Petreaus a liar. We will depend on outside groups to do this for us''.
Yet the ''outside''groups were on the inside. Right where the Democrats wanted them. Unfortunately,the thing blew up in their faces when the CODE PINKERS refused to keep their big mouths shut[which all visitors are required to do while in session], and rely solely upon the silent messages from the many signs they bore. Going ape on national television,with America seeing the two sides of the Iraq War,one a composed,lean combat general and the other, screaming biddies wearing a most atrocious colour,Skelton [D-Mo] yelled for order and had the Capitol police begin the herd the Pinkers off stage left.
This has gotton out of hand. Turning 180 degrees from their 2006 ''Bush must listen to his generals''to 2007s ''Petraeus betrayed his country''.Democrats are increasingly [and correctly]being seen as being held in thrall to their parties leftwing whose wheels have totally come off their wagon. Critics forget that Petreaus was confirmed on an 85-0 vote with ALL Democrats voting in favour.
There is not a scintilla of evidence[like in McCarthys day with the alleged ''communists''] that Petraeus serves as a presidential ''mouthpiece''or is a ''stooge''of the Bush administration. Democrats lie down for their MOVEON masters,who say the general is such an individual.MOVEON said it,ergo,it must be so. The more bovine in the audience who believe that this is a war For And By Halliburton will be reminded that:

A. George Soros owns over two million shares of Halliburton.

B.Soros makes over two million dollars per month on Halliburton dividends[DOW Industrial Averages,Feb.-Sept.2007]

C.Soros is the chief financial contributor to MOVEON

D.MOVEON is being funded by HALLIBURTON monies.

Line of Those Who Have Betrayed This Nation forms on the Left.Beginning with Soros and MOVEON.

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Denise Carnohan, Richmond, VA — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:03:47 GMT

For what it's worth, considering NBC is so liberally biased, I had 3 brothers serve in WWII - God protected our County when our service men and women gave their lives for it and fought that horrific war. It's such a pity that we don't have a DRAFT today so that some of these demonstrators could be off our street, serving a just cause and grow up to be MEN and WOMEN we would be proud of. Seems they're too soft and spoiled to amount to much. Thank God for the MEN and WOMEN serving our Country today.

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Glad Bags — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:05:32 GMT

For a man with an Ph.D from Princeton, GEN Betrayus sure looks more and more like Jerry's stupid crowd.

Yes, if someone doesn't agree with Move.org's position, then they are stupid.

Keep it up lefties. Keep it up. You're about to get your nose rubbed in it.

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Joe Houston,TX — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:05:39 GMT

So Jerry is the reason I keep seeing this quote being posted. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" I was trying to figure why anyone would post such a statement, now I see!

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Chase Gardiner, Monterey, Ca — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:10:08 GMT

The General is only doing his job following orders to do less would be disobeying a lawful order. It's the American people who need to wake up and support efforts to end this war . We are in a situation that there is no victory ever possible for America. Let leave with the little dignity we still have and embolden the Iragi people to take charge of their future. Get rid of the hand pick Government that we installed and start from square one. This is a simple solution to a complex situation at this point in time it's up to the people to fix this mess.

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Chase Gardiner, Monterey, Ca — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:15:16 GMT

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John San Antonio — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:29:16 GMT

We are the dumbest generation because we let our leaders talk us into becoming extremely afraid of a threat that wasn't 1% as great as Germany and Japan was in WW11. I was a Republican all my life until they stopped following the conservative philosophy. I was not in WW11 but I do remember it and no one was afraid of the threat to this nation, they just rolled up their sleeves and went to work to erradicate it. Today we were convinced to become very afraid of a handful of criminals that presented no more threat to this nation than Cuba. I voted for a republican president in every election starting in 1960 and had to stop in 2004 because of disgust with what happened. There is no one representing conservatives anymore.

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HOT DAM — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:31:06 GMT

Betrayus THE LAST GENERAL STANDADING.

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Norm, Las Vegas, NV — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:52:53 GMT

We are not at war with Iraq, but with Islamic Terriorist, who hate the United States as much as liberal democrats hate Bush. Iraq is simply the battlefield. So, if not Iraq, where? Perhaps you would prefer Los Angeles, New York, ...

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E Stephens, Detroit, MI — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:58:24 GMT

I can see that Fox news has done a great job of brainwashing at least two people here. Hats off to the rest of you who think for yourselves. My friends serving in Iraq (all Democrats) would thank you. They joined the military out of patriotism inspired by the love of a country based on the ideas of democracy, separation of church and state, and free thought and expression, all liberal ideas.

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Elliot Stephens, Esq. Clinton Twp. MI — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:01:44 GMT

Speaking of running the US military into the ground, would any diehard Bush loyalists like to comment on the effect on America's strategic position now that its reputation has been soiled for the past seven years, especially after we launched an aggressive military action, an unprovoked war, in '03?

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Robert in Vail — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:05:49 GMT

Jerry in Corpus-
I'm guessing that you are posting here just for laughs and that your can't possibly intend for your comments, or you for that matter, to be taken seriously. Your last post "You libs hate the armed forces", is as uninformed and out of touch as shrub's war strategy. If you would actually take the time to read what people have said, you realize that many of the folks that disagree with you are war veterans and people who have worn a uniform and defended our country. Your comments just emphasize how completely out of touch with reality you are. Maybe a hitch in Iraq would bring you back to reality....

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AINTHATAB — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:12:54 GMT

you can put lipstick on a pig ...IT'S STILL A PIG!

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DEMs Fighting Back Against Demonic Wingnuts — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 23:19:32 GMT

Jerry I have said it hundreds of times, you don't know what you are talking about when you say Clinton ran the military into the ground. How many times do you have to hear this you moron?

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Kent Taylor — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:41:50 GMT

I am a Democrat and proud of it. I am also retired from the military and am proud of my 21 years of honorable service. I was saddened by the remarks of MoveOn.org because nobody that wears the uniform of the U.S. should be verbally humiliated by anyone, however, after being in the military for over twenty years, I would like to say that you tend to say what your superiors want you to or else. No four star general is going to destroy his career by sidestepping his superiors. The Republicans are trying to get every ounce of political momemtum out of this. Have any of the Republican presidential Candidates ever spent any time in the military? This war has torn this country apart. It infuriates me when I hear people like Sean Hannity trying to act like a no it all on this war and he actually knows nothing about war. All he is trying to do is gain political points for his party. Seems funny to me that there is such an outrage by the Republicans to everything being said about Gen. Petraius, but never did I hear there outrage over comments by Republicans that denegrated the Military record of John Kerry. As I have said before, no one that puts their life on the line for this country should ever be humiliated, especially by people that have never spent a minute in the military, Republican or Democrat.

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Val Pathy, Diamond Bar, Ca. — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 01:09:43 GMT

Republicans,
Why don't you learn this is not a war by the Republicans but by Bush-Chaney who happen to be Repulicans. It is their policy which is failing and not the uniform soldiers. They won the war (militarily) and transferred the power to greedy Iraqi politicians who are the friends of Oil Thirsty Bush-Cheney. The Republicans should not accept any more deaths of American Uniform heroes. Neither should Democrats.

doc1obg.

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Jason Rollins, Miami, FL. — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 02:14:35 GMT

I've read all of the comments on this page and it scares me to think that our country is this divided. I think we are all falling victims to a political game to try and divide us. I am a military member. I've done the tours in Iraq. I know what it's like. Regardless of whether we want troops in or out of Iraq, we all want what we feel is best for our troops and most of all, our country. Democrats and Republicans aren't that different. Sometimes, we (and more improtantly the Congressmen) should recognize things that we have in common instead of focusing so intensely on our differences. Maybe then we can start creating cohesion as opposed to division! I personally believe that the war has been mismanaged. I think that Bush's idea for a democratic Iraq was irrational and failed years ago. I don't think we can or should define the political structure of that country. I've met a few General's in my life, and I can assure everyone that our military leaders are not lackeys of anyone. They know what they're doing when it comes to military affairs. I think the problem is that the Iraq situation is not a war or military affair. They're in a sense asking a General about a political problem. That's not his area of expertise. I believe that the military aspect of the war in Iraq is over, and we should pull out as soon as possible; but, being in the military I understand that a complete pullout would be detrimental to the security of the country. We've put ourselves in an impossible position. To be completely honest I have come to the conclusion that there is nothing our military can do to help the situation; so, we should begin a complete withdrawal. No one will be able to take over that country in our absence...We couldn't even do it. We should provide them economical support and in time, their country will strengthen.

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Nick, West Depere, WI — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 03:18:18 GMT

Wow the liberals and the far left in this country have officially gone off the deep end. They have no reason or common sense to any of their claims or statements. It is crazy to believe that liberals say this garbage and never get questioned by anyone in the mainstream media. Whats more unbelieveable is that they actually beleive what they say with some conviction which is hard to believe cuz no democratic liberal usually speaks with conviction. Liberalism is a mind disease... i wish there was a cure.

Just for startes I have 4 friends in Iraq right now serving 2nd and 3rd terms because they beleive in WINNING this fight and continuing on thru to ultimate victory ...Petreaus has forgotten more about war than any liberal ever knew....
----AMERICA NEVER LOSES-----
R.I.P. 9/11 Victims. Never Forget "even tho must libs have"

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Ed Pazicky, Port Charlotte, Florida — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 05:25:55 GMT

Take note! The Democrat candidates all commented on the strategy, scope and reality of the situation in Iraq while the Republican candidates were stuck on criticizing the exercise of free speech by a national political organization and had no comments on the war itself.

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CJ — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 06:25:29 GMT

Jerry you are a dispicable character...nothing you say can change that for sure.

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William, Little Rock, Ar. — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:05:28 GMT

The Move On Ad will mark a turning point in the debate over Iraq. By joining Harry Reid in trying to smear General Petraeus the radicals at Move On just shot themselves in the foot. It was only a matter of time before these fools imploded. The surrender movement has failed. The Democracts will spend much of their time in 08 trying , but failing, to distance themselves from it. After they are defeated then we can start the hard work of rebuilding a once great political party.

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Joe Becton, Austin, Texas — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:36:36 GMT

I travel almost every week somewhere in the USA and occasionally Europe. When I am in the airports I talk to men and women in Uniform and their stories all match what the General is reporting. It is sad that 45% of the country in not informed but give opinions, but they are the loudest and have the media attention. They are reports from some of his people. Move on . org is a socialist organization that could easily turn communist. The trucks blown up on the Mexican border appears to be Teamster (liberal organization)driven, I hope that investigation by Mexico reveal the truth.

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Sgt. — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:42:51 GMT

Stay with it jerry. Upon my first post, let me introduce you to the word draftee. As soon as we've got all those people back and we get our asses kicked a little more, on our property, we'll initiate the draft again. That method eliminates the friends and relatives of the wealthy from having to serve which eliminates much of the media opposition to our people being over there. As for the spitting. I was there, and could care less whether anyone believes it or not, but I pray that every body bag that comes back from Iraq is claimed by one of those bitches that spat and threw dog shit on us at the Oakland air port. If you think it won't scar you a little to have the first American girl you've seen in 12 months spit on you...try it sometime.

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Ron, St. Louis, Mo. — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:59:44 GMT

Jerry...I am a liberal and there is one thing I would like to say to you. HOW DARE YOU PRESUME THAT WE DO NOT LOVE OUR TROOPS. These brave men and women have nothing but my love and respect for doing the job they have been given(by lies from this administration, no less). The troops are doing the best they can and are losing their lives because of it, but when will it end? If our so called president had his way I think they would never be able to leave. I worry and pray for our troops everyday, so DO NOT say things about us not supporting our troops when we all know it is not true.

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lek — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:05:05 GMT

Why do these conserative folks like war? I realized that the poeple that make the loudest noise have not even seen a battle field let a lone hold a riffle.

All they do is shout their talking point. I guess i don't blame them 'cos war and drum beat of war is in their blood.

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Eric Timco — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:19:15 GMT

Today 9/11 and you can really see how unpatriotic,
Un-American the liberal extremists really are. Scares me away from the democratic party.
Everyday when I turn on the T.V, radio, or read a newspaper I find that Christianity is mocked and ridiculed. In many of the T.V shows you will see completely tasteless insults constantly aimed at the Christian Faith. We are force fed a system of Political Correctness that will not tolerate even a hint of a joke aimed at any other religion, race, sexual preference. However Christianity doesn't have that shield of protection that every other faith has. It seems the ACLU can take a comment that may be slightly irreverant towards their protected groups and turn it into multi-million dollar lawsuits. When Christian's are offended, discriminated against, or victimized. No one comes running out to help ensure that justice and equality will prevail and make hate crimes bills to protect them. The Taliban executes Christian converts. Many other places around the globe like Sudan have Arab militias that wipe out entire villages of Christians. To hear the ACLU insist we take down mangers at city hall, claim to be offended by someone saying Merry Christmas, Forcing the Ten Commandments out of our courts, then, the latest, is a lawsuit against our Military, that is Fighting to protect us from Terrorists, Al Qaida, Communism.

Good Wages to workers is Very Important in Michigan. Immigrants pose a threat to wages and our culture. Wages could increase if the government would tighten up on border security and slow the flow of foreign workers. And our nation would be more secure if we were more selective about who comes into our country. When the democrats ease up the pressure on Al Qaida by surrendering in Iraq, they will be able to regroup and follow our retreating troops back home to the U.S.A. Before this happens we have to make sure that they have not infiltered government jobs such as food inspectors, water supply, border security, policy makers even. We are going to be crushed (wages too) if we open the gates and allow unrestricted travel and immigration. Without having a clue into who is coming and going and getting lawsuits everytime we need to take a second look at someone who might have some ties to Al Qaida.

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professor — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:25:33 GMT

Answers to (I wonder why?)

Its not imperialistic enouph.
Because he's on Bush's team.
Because their also insane.
They are white collar and don't sweat.
It helps big business.
Because they are bigots.
Because they are selfish.
Because they are rich and spoiled.

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John Doe, Seattle, WA — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:46:21 GMT

Betrayus THE LAST GENERAL STANDADING.

<Blink>

Who is "Betrayus"?

And is he "standing" or "dading"?

You really need to be clearer in your thoughts, or lack there of.

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WDRussell, East Liverpool, Ohio — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:47:36 GMT

Well maybe we shoudn't concentrate on the General. He is just doing whatever it takes to keep his job. We should concentrate on George the Bloodthirsty.
Jerry try to come into the 21st century.

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Meemee, Maine — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:07:24 GMT

Why would a 4 star General lie to the public regarless of party in office. If anybody knows what's working and what isn't it's him. I guess actual statistics showing a decrease in violence isn't enough.

As for MoooveOne.org - despicable!

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Repub — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:19:02 GMT

E Stephens, Detroit, MI. The Fox news brainwashing rant is soooo tired. 99% of liberals who use this as a talking point never even watch the show. The 1% that do can't beleive that Fox has 2 different points of view on each topic. One Conservative one Liberal, one Republican one Democrat, Hannity & Combs etc, etc. The issue is liberals are not used to having a different point of view on mainstream media they confuse this with biased reporting. Non of my Liberal friends watch Fox News but they all seem to think that it's all right wing politics which if you watch you would know it isn't. To the Liberals please don't lie and say you watch Fox News save yourself the drama because I will challenge you and you will of course waste everyone's time with "Oh I don't remember or I only watched it once etc ect. I've heard it all. Personally I don't care if you watch Fox News or not but you might want to think about using a talking point you can't back up.

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Mike PAV — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:27:56 GMT

I've been away from this site for a while but I was curious to come back after the General delivered his assessment. It doesn't surprise me that the Liberals are still against the war (on terror the battlefield is in Iraq). Do you Liberals really believe that the American people want defeat? You guys and the Democratic party dug yourself into this whole, and I'm not sure you're going to be able to dig yourselves out. With that I say those that stick to this foolish rhetoric of ignorance that is actually aligned with what our enemy is saying (just watch Bin Laden's new terroist video it's loaded with the Democrat's talking points) I say good riddance, and to those that have decided to come back to their senses and found that they really do believe in our country, our men and women in uniform, our way of life, I say welcome back from the Looney bin we missed you.

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CJ — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:34:43 GMT

Repub be quiet...I watched Fox for 2 years and then I quit b/c of the bias. It's not hard to interpret, but what is unacceptable to others is probably fine to you. Just as many dislike MSNBC and CNN. So save the pretentious attitude for people who'd actually listen to your ridiculous comments.

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Rob Peters — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:42:30 GMT

CJ Repub be quiet...I watched Fox for 2 years and then I quit b/c of the bias.

You obviously struggle with hearing other opinions that don't agree with your own. I'd say to get help, but you are probably beyond that point.

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MK,MO — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:47:25 GMT

I am an independent who normally votes for the candidate that I think is best suited for the job, organizations like move-on are not a feather in the dems hat, although anyone that thinks move-on somehow represents all the dem candidates if being foolish, I will be voting for the dem candidate for president as long as it is not mrs. clinton who is as much a republican as rudy, and all the dem representatives that run in my state, this country can not take another 4 years of repubs in control or mrs. Bush lite, we need to show the rest of the world we are not a bunch of crazed fascist hell bent on world domination, and we need to make this country a good place to work and live for more than the top third of it's population, an idea that makes most repubs cringe in disgust, we need the kind of change john edwards can bring, and contrary to what the corporate media pounds the airwaves daily with, edwards is the only dem that can win the general election

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Mike PAV — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:50:17 GMT

CJ "I watched Fox for 2 years" that's great but I happen to believe in what Repub said I've experienced similar instances with my Liberal friends. I'd be curious to hear what is baised about Fox News (I also watch MSNBC, CBS, ABC, & CNN) you have two years of FOX viewing experience enlighten me. Please don't waste everyone's time though I'm asking for facts that you can use from FOX News to show the bias...you have 2 years viewing experience if what you say is true it shouldn't be that hard.

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Marv Wilson — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:52:22 GMT

Jason Rollins <I've read all of the comments on this page and it scares me to think that our country is this divided.>

Don't fret Jason, it isn't. There is a very small but noisey and well funded set of people that are making it look like the country is divided. These left wing wackos are being exposed for what they are though, a group of extreme left wingers out of the main stream of the country. The main stream of this country will not tolerate their actions.

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HOT DAM — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:14:50 GMT

Swift-boaters beware.
Move On is stealing your thunder!!

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HOT DAM — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:16:47 GMT

BETRAYUS = THE LAST GENERAL STANDING!!

ALL CLEAR.

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HOT DAM — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:19:05 GMT

Joe Becton TEXAS Most likely blown up by drug dealers.
Mexico is a corrupt drug driven country. Much like ours.

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Frats Newsome — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:59:09 GMT

Move On is stealing your thunder!!

Nope. They just have a lot of gas escaping out their back side.

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Repub — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 16:39:27 GMT

CJ, Be quiet? That's all you got? You watched it for 2 years? Well tell me how it's biased then. Can you even do that? I seriously doubt you can, you're just proving my point. I didn't say anything about MSNBC OR CNN because I don't watch them so I won't pretend to know if they are filled with bias. CJ it's you that should be quietuiet

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Joe Houston,TX — Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:43:34 GMT

Jerry, I lived in Corpus Christi and still have family there, be seeing you soon. I've never dissed our troops nor Gen. Patraus, just you. When I get there, I'll introduce you to a recruiter I know down there. As an American and Texan, I am not afraid of Al Queda, Iran, or republicans hell bent on revenge because I disagreed with their stupidity.

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Will, tacoma, wash — Thu, 13 Sep 2007 00:13:12 GMT

Why complain about what Moveon does? Why complain about any of the irrational thoughts put forth not only by them but by the 9/11 "truth" movement, or Michael Moore?

Don't you all realize that every time something like this happens someone from the GOP gets at least a cities worth of votes?

Besides I already know for sure the surge is working:

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03202007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/why_its_working_____opedcolumnists_gordon_cucullu.htm?page=0

http://drdanny.newsvine.com/_news/2007/07/11/830564-the-surge-is-working-will-washington-allow-the-current-progress-to-continue

http://worldblog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/08/13/314468.aspx

http://www.sacbee.com/111/story/356675.html

http://www.military.com/forums/0,15240,148101,00.html

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070910_Petraeus_Statement.pdf

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/070910_Petraeus_Slides.pdf

I'm definitely going to side with the General on this one, that's for sure.

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Rich, Fredericksburg, VA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:19:55 GMT

The more that i read this the more i am sickened, by all of you. I am a Republican and proud of it, but i acknowledge that there are other opinions out their besides mine and I try to keep my arguments civil and reasonable. This cowardly attack on a brave American soldier is despicable and is no way civil or reasonable. Moveon should be ashamed. If they wish to take an add against the President or certain politicians that would be understandable, but attacking the men who are overseas because they have a sense of duty to this nation, the chain of command, or just because they believe in what they are doing is immoral. General Petraeus deserves this nation's thanks and gratitude, not its scorn and hateful words. I accept your opinion on the war, even though i think it is wrong, but I no longer respect it or yourself when you attack the noblest and bravest members or society.

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joe m, philly, pa — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:30:04 GMT

All of you who think we will win in Iraq are fooling yourselves. There is no winning in Iraq. Just look at the 50 years of turmoil in Gaza, the West Bank and Israel. Add Lebanon, Boznia, and any other wasted nation you want to the list of countries that have cost us American lives and hundreds of Billions of dollars. Bush is a disgrace. I happen to agree with MoveOn.org. I also saw Donald Trump on Wolf Blitzer's show say "George Bush is the worst President in our history". I agree with Donald Trump. Bush is a disgrace. Bush should resign. If the Democrats had the votes, Bush would be impeached. Bush will be the most despised President in the last 60 years.