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jeani o, saint inigoes, md — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:25:54 GMT

Oh for pete's sake - don't they have something better to waste their time on.

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jeani o, saint inigoes, md — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:29:48 GMT

Disgusting? The shrub called it disgusting? Guess it takes someone disgusting to call something disgusting. The ad was over the top but good grief to waste our taxpayer dollars on a nonbinding measure? Ridiculous!

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karlos — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:37:30 GMT

while the ad is over the top anyone who thinks his perspective on the situation in iraq was unbias is a fool. just as bush selected judges that reflect his personal agenda selection of the general was conditional to his compatibility to bush's iraq agenda and therefore predetermined his evaluation to agree with bush. in order to salvage the gop and avoid fringe gopers from bolting to form 67 the demos need bush gave the token 5000 withdrawal and vague inference to further reductions to presurge levels. any betrayal is on bush. as to padding the reportthat's no less than westmoreland did in nam so why is anyone surprised.

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The Repukes are ridiculous once again — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:38:59 GMT

Senator Reid, do not let this come to a vote. PLEASE!

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MK,MO — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:40:23 GMT

fox news brings this deal up every 5 minutes, is it really that big of a deal?

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Betty, Baltimore, MD — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:40:43 GMT

The Republicans are so frigging lame! Wimps!

They cower behind their puppet General. Nice.

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Al, KS — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:46:49 GMT

I'm confused...the Republicans can block votes on important legislation...but the Dems can't block votes on this kind of nuisance non-binding stupid stuff. What gives?

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CJ — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:47:30 GMT

I'm surpised the Republicans are still so focused on MoveOn.org...when there are much larger issues at hand. An ad in the NY Times?? They still haven't changed their ways.

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:50:46 GMT

What was MOVEONS ad aimed at Petraeus if not a ''political attack''?

''We bought it,we own it,and now we are going to keep it''[Remarks,Eli Pariser on the Democrat Party].

Pack of damned McCarthyites.

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Pat, Boston, MA — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:52:43 GMT

To pick up on something someone said here this morning, and since no one in the media had much interest in this, what with OJ and all, I'll tell it.

At the Anti-War March last Saturday in DC, I met a number of very nice people who were in attendance at the protest, and they were from all across the country. Why is this significant? Up until recently, they were loyal Republicans.

Not anymore.

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New Independent — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:53:59 GMT

It's amazing! Where were all the Republicans when the Swift Boat ads were being aired? I didn't hear a word then. Also, I may not agree with what was said, but in a country where the KKK is allowed to march, and freedom of speech is guaranteed in the Constitution, I really don't know how Congress has any say in this. I also think there are a lot more important things for Congress to be doing. If we stop people from reporting on military personnel just because they are military, it implies that the military is always correct and can do no wrong. I think that would be extremely dangerous. I wish Congress would apply itself more to ending the Iraq war, stopping ILLEGAL immigration, stopping sanctuary cities and making them follow the law, not passing a law stopping people from being allowed to sue telephone companies from eavesdropping on them illegally, bringing back habeaus corpus, ending torture, abiding by the Geneva Convention rules, giving financial aid to anyone who can make cars run without using oil, thereby cutting off financial aid to terrorists, and helping stop global warming, etc. etc. When is Congress going to DO something? 70% of Americans feel this country is going in the wrong direction! Maybe we need to re-elect a whole new Congress as well as a President!

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RAH — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:54:21 GMT

Then they should disavowed the swiftboating of Kerry when he was running for the Presidency in 2004. What a bunch of hypocrites. I didn't necessarily agreed with MoveOn decision to run the ad against Petraeus, cause that created a distraction. But as obama said, it should have been about Bush's handling of the war, rather than the Military execution of it.

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H P Boston — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:57:32 GMT

I am making ANOTHER donation to moveOn today! I will make it in revulsion to the WORST PRESIDENT EVER!
THE MOST DISGUSTING PRESIDENT EVER!
THE STUPIDEST PRESIDENT EVER!
THE WORST AMERCAN EVER BUSH!
SO the repukes own all the news station and OWN ALL the newspaper but they do not OWN MoveON.
Hitler and his gang in Congress will control by a vote!
Well will all the REAL AMERICAN NOT VOTE AT ALL!
In fact walk out DEMS..Do not even look at that stupid trick!

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Pete Caloger Bushkill, PA 18324 — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:57:53 GMT

It was just an ad, no more or less so than Johnson's Daisy ad, or Bush Sr.'s Willie Horton ad, or any other sleaze cranked out by either party or their minions. This vote is even sillier than the Terri Schiavo Act vote, both efforts by Republicans to paint the opposition as immoral or traitorous, or both. Instead of wasting time on all this flag-waving crap, do something to protect health insurance for children who need it, or even take heed of Piraser's response above.

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Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:58:14 GMT

Can we get a sense of the Senate vote expressing the general thought that Republicans are warmongering jackazzes?

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Jamie, Elmwood Park, IL — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:00:08 GMT

Where was the outrage when Kerry was swiftboated?
Or the racial stab at Ford? Oh, that's right. Whatever the repubs do is ok - it's only wrong if the dems do it.

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John Doe, The Peanut Gallery — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:04:06 GMT

If the Republicans can get this worked up about a ad in a newspaper I wonder what they'll do when they loose the 2008 elections.

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Pat, Huntington, NY — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:07:51 GMT

I may sound naive, but I'm not, when I say that this vote is 100% politically motivated, has nothing to do with doing the people's business, and is taking congress away from more important issues, such as EVERY THING ELSE!

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just asking — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:09:48 GMT

"non-binding vote"? I thought only impotent, do-nothing partisan cry babies did that? ANy of you right wingers remember saying that? Or are your memories like your morals?

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Taxpayer, Baltimore, MD — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:11:13 GMT

Your tax dollars at waste.

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mikeeg,abdn,wa — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:13:38 GMT

more political bs from repubs who put AMERICAN TROOPS IN JEAPORDY EVERYDAY IN THE IRAQ QUAGMIRE AND ARE GETTING READY TO ATTACK IRAN.

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Jeremy, Huntington Beach, CA — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:13:43 GMT

“What’s disgusting is that the President has more interest in political attacks than developing an exit strategy to get our troops out of Iraq and end this awful war,"

Well there's the Pot calling the Kettle black if I've ever seen it...or maybe more along the lines of the "Do as I say, not as I do."

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JIrby, Colorado — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:14:30 GMT

Republicans are a bunch of crooked, backward a-holes. The dirty tricks dept is now going after something on par with flag burning, a strictly emotional issue designed to turn America's moron community against Dems. This move allows them to downplay the fact that Bush made Patraeus his personal flunky, and is just a red herring. What it really amounts to is an insult to the intelligence of the masses. It really functions as a sort of IQ test in that anyone who falls for it are fools. It looks like the people would wake up one day and realize the repubs have nothing for them. I don't see this boosting the scumbag in chief's poll numbers if that's what he's after. I've noticed that any time he makes some kind of statement or observation that the media sees as "worthy" of printing, when it shows up on MSN home page as a story, the readers usually give it a one or one and a half star out of five rating. This doesn't reflect the opinion of the entire country because people who read and rate these stories on line are somewhat more intelligent than the general population. Repubs don't care what intelligent people think about them. It's all about numbers. Speaking of ratings, I personally rate Repub politicians slightly below telemarketers, which places them about halfway between illegal aliens and members of al Qaeda. How about you?

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Karen S — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:20:39 GMT

What the heck is Congress doing wasting time on an ad when health care and education matters are looming, and the war is obsene???
Is this about free press? Can't somebody say ANYTHING against Bush at all without the GOVERNMENT condemning it?? Isn't this just Hitler's Germany??? I want to take the entire Congress and dump it in a landfill.

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cms — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:28:09 GMT

And Congress wonders why their approval is 15 pts below the Worst. President. Ever.

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Emil Sarcasian, Scranton, PA — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:29:06 GMT

Isn't it funny how Republicans didn't have a problem when the "Swift Boat" ads targeted Sen. Kerry?

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Ralph, Charlotte, NC — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:29:41 GMT

Isn't it true that the fuss is over the last line--and that all the facts in the ad are being ignored for the sake of fussing about calling the General a name?

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Brian, Baltimore, Maryland — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:32:37 GMT

Last time I checked we have Free Speech in America. You might not like what you see but that is just too damn bad.

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Dr. R.L. — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:33:28 GMT

OMG! I cannot believe, in all of my good heart and Ph.D.-sense, WHY Republicans are going after this! My god. This is unbelievable. I'd suggest, well, let's see:
1. Civil Rights/Domestic Partner Legislation
2. Health Insurance for everyone
3. Resolution of Urban gang violence

....etc.....etc....etc....etc...

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Dan, Louisville, Kentucky — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:33:32 GMT

It should be a big deal. And for all those Democrats and liberals who think it shouldn't, consider this - agreeing that what MoveOn did was despicable (and it was) will give you the insurance that, for the near future at least, Republicans can't resort to tactics they used against John Kerry, a la Swift Boat. You may point out that Mr. Kerry isn't running for President this year, and that none of the current Democratic frontrunners have military experience; however, using this resolution to elevate the debate will work in your favor in other areas, as the GOP cannot and has never been able to resist resorting to this sort of campaigning. It's your party's responsiblity and yours individually as politically interested citizens to make this as visible as possible in order to persuade moderate voters like myself come November.

Perhaps then we can advance beyond mindless name calling that hasn't stopped since Bush v. Gore.

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Greg R., Spokane, WA — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:36:11 GMT

Why do Repulsivcans hate the free market system? NY Times runs ads for income. Newspapers are hurting. What happened to freedom of speech.

Where did my old Republican Party of the 70's and 80's go?

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Nate Mendenhall, Dayton, OH — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:37:42 GMT

I mean, Bush if free to think MoveOn's add is disgusting. I think Bush is disgusting. However I think the Senate voting over a response to the ad is a laughable waste of time. I thought we voted more Dems in last November so they could end this war not spend their time worrying if MoveOn's ads are agreeable to them.

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Steve A Jonesboro IN — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:38:57 GMT

So much righteous indignation on the part of the swift boat repubs! What a bunch of blithering idiot fools! So is john "boner" going to break down in tears again?

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James Hagan — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:40:15 GMT

..Bush selected judges that reflect his personal agenda... Not correct! He selected judges to reflect the will of the voters who elected him and don't forget the liberals LOST THE ELECTION.

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Carmen Colorado — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:42:01 GMT

It is amazing that we have these politicians that have been highly educated and intelligent (except for the leader)and they act just like the Moron that is the leader of this USA. What this president and administration have done is worst than that ad. Republicans are acting like a bunch of women, getting upset over name calling, get to work for the real people that have rights under the Constitution and not the Laws that this president has change to fit his ways fo running this USA. My grandaughter acts more grown up then these politicans.

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Blue state baby — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:42:20 GMT

Do we not still have freedom of speech in this country?

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nuanced — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:43:52 GMT

Bunch of sissy hypocrites. Typical bullies, they can dish it out but can't take it when the table turns. You Republicans want some cheese with that whine? What kind of a man is Gen Petraeus that he can't defend himself? If he had integrity he would have said he could handle it and to back off. But we already know the answer to his integrity. His so-called "honest" assessment was contradicted within days by other reports. He sold out the country to politics. He betrayed the American people. The truth hurts.

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Robert Catalano, Salem, OR — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:46:55 GMT

Why not a non-binding measure saying Bill Maher should not be calling George Bush, "President Numbnuts?" More political theater by a bunch of terrible actors.

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John Doeit bk — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:47:09 GMT

A new low even for moveOn.Org. A treasonious act at time of war to offer comfor to the enemy. The law is still on the books. Enforce it. Arrest MoveOn and its pathetic cowards, jail them and shut them up! God bless General Petraeus and Victory for America!

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David, Houston, Texas — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:48:49 GMT

It seems that we the people have not given enough power to the opposition party, the Democrat to override Bush veto. Now wake up, American! It is time to MoveON.

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Blue state baby — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:50:16 GMT

Filthy repubs. anything they don't agree on should not be allowed. Just moveon!

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S P MN — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:52:14 GMT

DITTO H P BOSTON!!!!!

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Eugene, Maine — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:53:35 GMT

Is it possible that the General is being fluffed and plumped up, defended and proclaimed as being attacked unfairly in order to offer him as a runing mate for --who?

This has GOT to be something more than just a play on words for an ad's sake. And just HOW did it get twisted into being a "disgusting" thing to say about the soldiers dying there? Does anyone truly think the 3791 Americans now killed in the Bush War really care that a General's name was parodied?

The present Mob in the White House is preparing to bomb Iran and this nation's attention is drawn to a hissing-fit over name calling of a secure General! ! !

I am not presently a member of Move On but I am now seriously considering becoming one.

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Scout Denver, CO — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:55:12 GMT

Here's what I find Disgusting
1.Invading a country and killing thousands of people and rationalizing it with lie after lie
2.Stealing our country's future by running up unsustainable debt
3.Funneling our tax dollars to companies owned by the rethugs cronies for rotten water and $45 six packs of coke.
4. Misplacing 8.9 Billion Dollars
5. Allowing almost 300 tons of high explosives to "go missing"
6. Abusing our citizens in the military in (fill in the blank, dozens of ways).
7.Over 47 million people without any health insurance.
8.Not condemning the hateful speech and in some cases dangerous speech of the right wing.
9.Shredding the constitution.
10. The main stream media framing all the ways the Dems are working to correct some of these things by saying they are failing as opposed to telling the truth that the rethugs goal is putting party over all of us. The rethugs primary goal is to block all legislation.
I could go on...

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kenn"GOTHCA"O — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:56:26 GMT

This is what republicans want on the record not troop deployment issues such as not being home to save your marriage or see your kid, not bad armour for the troops not an end game in sight no exit out no plan to win, but that they hurt the generals feelings.He said the same thing 2 years ago in the editorial he wrote.Isnt he man enough to defend himself.He sold the troops down the river with that I have been deployed 3 years so I know how the troops feel.This isnt valley forge ,he eats better has better quarters better communications with his familiy leave anytime just like the troops who ride in humvees and get blown to bits,rah rah boys remember galipoli.

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Elizabeth, Michigan — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:56:43 GMT

What I find disgusting is NBC/MSNBC's pandering to the Republicans......If you're not running OJ, you're talking about this crap!!! The American people don't give a damn about this ad...The American people want their soldiers home...I want my husband home!!! Maybe if you spent more time and concern on what's actually going on in Iraq and Afghanistan instead of the talking points you spew as Gospel, you'd have some credibility!!! God help us, are there any journalists left???

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:57:52 GMT

See, this demonstrates the utter hypocrisy of the Right. It's AOK for them to trash libs with lies and innuendo but if one of their own gets the same treatment then LOOK OUT for the wrath of Bush!

And once again... do not expect any of the psychologically and intellectually inadequate members of the Right to acknowledge said blatant hypocrisy. Ever. They simply are not mentally advanced enough to do it.

I am to the point where I really don't give a damn what Bush says, thinks, or feels. He can be mad all he wants about the ad and, frankly, it wouldn't affect me at all.

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Amy B Portland, ME — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:58:46 GMT

These Republicans are the same ones who supported printing war critic Joe Wilson's wife's name in the paper and making her CIA connection public.

Same Republicans who laughed when Ann Coulter called Democratic candidate John Edwards a "f----t".

Same Republicans who paid for an ad implying a black candidate dated sleazy white women.

Unwarranted personal attacks? Its the Republican's favorite weapon. What hypocrites.

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keenn — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:58:53 GMT

The republicans were the swift boat adds.They dont care about the military except when they vote otherwise screw the vet affairs vet administration wounded vets,all lip service and when its over what do they get CUTS in the budget.

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H P Boston — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:00:23 GMT

Is that not a disgrace a picture of McCain on this subject. He who was so viciously SWIFTBOATED by his own party!
John you are you that demented that you can not remember the hell and the crap they piled on you!!
Shame on you Senator!

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John Doe, The Peanut Gallery — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:01:34 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiuRhy4CqzU

That pretty much sums up this tempest in teacup.

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Henry miles — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:04:05 GMT

If Moveon.org members want to do something for America rather than whine like a bunch of spoiled babies, go Join the Armed forces of America and pay their dues like the rest of us. See what it takes to earn just one of the ribbons that General Petraeus wears.

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H P Boston — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:06:41 GMT

Is that not a disgrace a picture of McCain on this subject. He who was so viciously SWIFTBOATED by his own party!
John are you that demented that you can not remember the hell and the crap they piled on you!!
Shame on you Senator!!

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REG; East Valley Phx. AZ — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:10:07 GMT

You would have to be totally naive to think that Gen Petreaus' report wasn't slanted to reflect favorably on what President Bush says/wants/does. I don't care if it is business or politics, the name of the game is 'protect your a--'. The Republicans are playing games with this and the Democrats, through 'moveon' used it for political advantage. But in the end, regretably, he did make a presentation favorable to what Bush wanted. It sure would be nice if politics wasn't this way and they all worked hard and honestly just focused on doing their job.

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Neal Stephan, Santa Fe, NM — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:15:30 GMT

And where was this sorry-assed excuse for a President's disgust when the GOP thrashed Max Cleland who lost three limbs in Viet Nam. REPUBLIPUKES ARE DISGUSTING. Anyone who ever votes for these schmucks should have their head examined.

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Rick Taylor, Louisville, KY — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:16:03 GMT

Disgusting allright!!! So is the bountiful hypocrisy of Bush and the Republicans who in recent years have spent hundreds of millions of dollars promoting ads that are full of lying, deceitful, immoral attacks on their political opponents, like comparing Sen. Max Cleland who won a silver star for bravery in Viet Nam to Osama bin Laden, or lying about Sen. John Kerry's honorable and dangerous service in Viet Nam.

Chickenhawks who pulled strings to get out of serving their country in a war (like Bush and Cheney) got no business casting these stones, much less sending other innocent human beings to slaughter in a war of their choosing. God help us, please.

These disgusting tactics only displease republicans when they are not the ones doing it. Hypocrites. I think they are disgusting regardless of who is running the ads.

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Juarez Traveller — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:17:25 GMT

This is ridiculous. Where are the votes condemning Fox "News"? If Congress starts condemning political speech, then the First Amendment becomes meaningless. Besides, General Petraeus told at least one outright lie to Congress.

When questioned about whether or not it mattered if a person was shot in the front or back of the head in the counting of sectarian deaths, Petraeus said that it didn’t matter, that any killing by a sectarian motive was counted. However, National Public Radio reported on 9/13/2007 that deaths by a shot to the head ARE NOT counted by the military among sectarian killings, even if they are for sectarian reasons. Thus, the number of such deaths Petraeus reported is about 50% too low, making things in Iraq much worse than he wants us to think.

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Tim M, Ithaca NY — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:21:17 GMT

The democrats should force the republicans to get 60 votes to move this through since the republicans do the same to every bill the democrats try to bring up for a vote. While this whole thing is a political stunt designed to make Democrats uncomfortable, its ironic that the Democrats can't seem to ever force the minority Republicans to cast uncomfortable votes! How is it that the Republicans easily passed bills without having 60 votes yet the Democrats can't do ANYTHING! Reid is the wimpiest majority leader I have ever seen! This Congress is as lazy as ever and none of the current senators deserve a dime of the taxpayer money they are being paid!

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Matthew H, Austin, TX — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:21:20 GMT

I really hope that the apprently uneducated liberals commenting above are not representative of the audience to which this column is catering.

Liberals, your emotional tirades do not lend you credibility. Take a lesson from Teddy Roosevelt: Speak softly and carry a big stick. Obama seems to have learned that!

For those who support the MoveOn action, be glad that this occured in 2007 and not 1942. Back then, such actions may have been considered treason, an offense potentially resulting in the death penalty.

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I'm-a-lemming4Hillary — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:22:45 GMT

How dare those Republicans question the right of MoveOn. The only difference between their ad and the Swift Boat ad was the Swift Boaters were right. MoveOn bends the truth all the time, what's the big deal. Those foolish Republicans always wanting to point out we don't necessarily play fair, or tell the truth.

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Amy B Portland, ME — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:22:55 GMT

well, Henry miles, quite a few Iraq War veterans are coming home and joining MoveOn.org, so I guess your suggestion is moot.

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Trish Framer — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:23:26 GMT

A non-binding resolution!!! Perfect! Finally, something the Democrats have experience with.

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:25:29 GMT

And to the morons who bring up 'treason' - you're dumber than a box of rocks. Calling someone a name isn't treason. If it was then all the talk show hacks would be hanging by their necks.

The REAL blame should lie with the sorry state of education (or lack of) in this country... what else could possibly explain such dimwitted comments from the Right. Then again, we all know that the Right is anti-education and anti-intellectual so there you have it.

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Jael, downstate IL — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:32:28 GMT

What a joke. Where were they when the Swiftboat ad attacking Kerry was out there? Oh, that's right, the target then was a Democrat, so the rules were different. Disgraceful. Surely, there are more important things to discuss in the Senate than this....like raising the debt ceiling AGAIN.

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Another voice that won't be stilled — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:33:50 GMT

"Do we not still have freedom of speech in this country? " Not according the the supporters of Emperor Flying Monkey's Ass and his travelling cabal of misery. (He wants Iran to act "responsibly." Isn't that TOOOOOO precious? Such a confused little monkey.)

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:34:32 GMT

John Doe, that was the funniest damn thing EVER! Honestly, I could easily picture Bush doing that in private... with the help of his trusty bottle, of course. Oh yeah, he's back on the sauce again... just look at him and listen to him.

What a sad waste of humanity.

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PJ — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:39:38 GMT

What was the name the Admiral used for Petraeus? I guess Bush better send an SUV full of Blackhawk boys for both the Admiral & the moveon guys.

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Blue state baby — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:39:49 GMT

So bush is mad. That makes me glad. The only thing he did was open his mouth again, and every time he does I hate him more. What a disgusting, lying, supercilious, horrible person he is. This man should not only be impeached, he should be in jail.

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Ben, Chicago IL — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:41:28 GMT

WHY is congress wasting time to vote on something that basically says "we don't like free speech being used like this" ???

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Jay Maludin, Marquette MI — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:41:35 GMT

Votes are in. Here are the Senators who think its just fine to tear down the military and to hate the men and woman who defend this country. Gee, all D's after their names. Shocker!

This was also a quick and easy way to identify the Senators on the moveon payroll. No surpises.

Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

And the ones that run and hide cause they're just too scared to vote:

Biden (D-DE)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:43:52 GMT

Heh. You people ought to get together for a St. Vitus Dance circle,or some such. The vote,at least,proves that the top Dems are in the pocket of a partisan PAC,thus becoming puppets of MOVEONs making.[and proving its Directors claim that he ''owns'' the Democrat party]. What ''shame''there is,lay in those who hypocritically wailed over what Max Cleland [D-Ga]endured,yet refer to a serving,decorated general as a ''puppet'' or ''stooge''of Bush.[offering no proof of this whatever,of course]. Meanwhile,in Iraq,casualties of all persons therein outside of al Qaedas continue to drop,as does Congresses approval ratings.

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T-Rex — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:44:27 GMT

The democrats are being tested and simply need to employ republican tactics to kill this vote before it ever reaches the floor. Republicans will employ any and all greasy, obstructionist strategies to save their collective a$$es. But beyond that, free speech is free speech and clearly a non-issue for the Senate - other than as a political smokescreen for the refugs to hide behind.

This is only the start of some very dirty politics in the coming months ahead....democrats need to get ahead of the curve for a change. Petraeus is a Bush mouthpiece and nobody in their right mind expected him to say anything other than what he said at this late stage of the Bush bait-and-switch game. What??
Somebody expected the unvarnished truth? Get real -

As Johnathan Altermann recently said on Media Matters, the Bush administration is genius at creating a cascade of political missteps that follow one after another - just when you think they've done their absolute worst, along comes another fiasco that trumps the last one. The Cheney plan to bomb Iran is the one everybody needs to get ready for - not so long ago political pundits gave this scenario about a 50/50 chance of becoming a reality - lately the odds have changed for the worse. The backlash would be monumental and beyond calculation in too many ways to count - that's never stopped this bunch before.

The people apparently have no protection against the psychos in the Whitehouse - certainly not in Congress - because of the impossibility of getting a veto-proof majority......it's not going to happen.

If we last long enough to vote these mis-begotten characters out of office without embarking on WWIII, it will take shear dumb luck - I personally don't think it's part of the plan.

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JL — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:48:51 GMT

Sure, I'm mad at the Republicans who pressed this, but am I the only one TOTALLY SICK OF THE DEMOCRATS who let themselves be manipulated?? I am NEVER giving money to the Democratic Party again. For Pete's sake, have some backbone and stand up for the people who elected you, Democrats. We ARE being betrayed by our leaders. Why isn't anyone but MoveOn saying it? Why isn't the whole country saying it? What, we're supposed to be absolutely silent and patriotic for decades until this war is over? We would STILL be in Vietnam if that's what we had done in the 60's. Shame on this country, shame on the Republicans who don't see their own hypocrisy and SHAME ON THE DEMOCRATS for betraying - yes, betraying - the trust of their constituents. I'm sending money to MoveOn today.

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jeani o, saint inigoes, md — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:51:22 GMT

Does anyone else feel we ought to be emailing our congressmen tonight and asking them WTF?

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 18:53:28 GMT

Jay, those people you pointed out are the only ones who give a rat's ass about free speech. Now go tell that to your scumbag Righty talk show losers.

And now to you directly... obviously, you are not intelligent enough to understand that the ad isn't about 'hate' - you cons just love that word, right? - it was simply a joke... you know, the same sort of joke that Ann Coulter likes to tell when she calls John Edwards or Al Gore a f*g. Just a joke!

Get it now?

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M Mapp — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:09:04 GMT

It's okay. He can play checkers with Colin Powell when this travesty is over(Hopefully Soon). Since they both will be unemployed and obscure for being Dupes.

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Pat, Boston, MA — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:14:00 GMT

Jay, check out which Senators voted NOT TO GIVE OUR TROOPS THE EQUIPMENT AND MEDICAL CARE THEY NEEDED WHEN THE IRAQI WAR STARTED.

HINT: THEIR NAMES WILL HAVE AN (R) AFTER THEIR NAMES FOR PARTY AFFILIATION.

Then check out which Senators voted to give them WHAT THEY NEEDED. HINT: THEIR NAMES WILL HAVE A (D) AFTER THEIR NAMES FOR PARTY AFFILIATION.

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kenn — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:18:50 GMT

Matthew you ignorant ass,If outting a CIA agent isnt treason what is 1942 or 2007 what is?

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Stefan von Ellenrieder, San Antonio, TX — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:23:06 GMT

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:23:21 GMT

Well, Lee, if you have proof that those who voted against the 'resolution' are 'in the pocket' of MoveOn then you had better post it. Otherwise, retract what you said now.

You're not gonna get away with pulling that Limbaugh/Hannity/Levin crap here.

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Andrew Smith, Bowie, MD — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:25:40 GMT

How dare MoveON.org publish an
attack on the great hero. Saint
(Gen.) David Petraeus? After all he
is an intellectual who graduated 43rd
in his class at West Point, and he is
serving in a combat zone (as a general,
not personally in combat). BTW, has he
ever actually served in a combat role?

His record clearly places him beyond
criticism, or even question. Right?
Hmm, didn't GOPers have some nasty things
to say about General (Ret.) Wesley Clark,
who finished first in is class at West
Point and who was seriously wounded in
Vietnam and who acted under fire in Kosovo
to save soldiers under attack? Just
asking. Shouldn't the GOPers also rebuke
Admiral William Fallon, Petraeus'
commander, for calling him a
"chickens**t?"

I am appalled that everyone hasn't sought
to inflict bodily injury on MoveOn's
people for even THINKING a negative
thought about the deity Petraeus. Oh,
let us sing his praises!! Hallelujah!!
Burn the MoveOn folks!

Pathetic!!!!

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Jerry York Aberdeen, Wa — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:27:00 GMT

I don't agree with personal attacks on a General with an outstanding record of serving this country. What has MoveOn done in comparison to serve our country? Multiple bombs going off in this country at one time will change General be tray us, to General please save us. The ad was stupid.

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James Thomas, Denver, CO — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:28:12 GMT

Please just everyone get out and silence these big GOP cry babies in 2008. Already nobody but O'reilly and the kool-aid drinkers are paying any attention to them. Let's all just ignore them while they throw their fit and then vote them out! That's the only way we are going to restore civil discourse or get out of Iraq.

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Jake — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:29:11 GMT

Hypocrites..Republicans can't even take care of veterens. It's Democrats who support programs to aid them when they come home from war. And don't forget..every veteran that has spoken against the GOP has been labeled a traitor and slandered...EVERY one.

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:30:35 GMT

Good work, Pat.

Now all the intellectually challenged Righties can eat their own words on how Dems NEVER support the troops. In fact, they can choke on them for all I care.

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H P Boston — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:32:53 GMT

Bravo JL...I got out my Visa card and my AMERICAN Express for donations to move on and Senator Clinton.
I do it once a month anyway so now I will do it twice a month!

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CJ — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:36:54 GMT

Matthew you don't believe in the First Amendement?? Congress condemning free speech is a fundamental error. This is why the lost last election..and I can only imagine how far they would be willing to go if they still had the majority. Too bad some peole in this country are so blinded by their hate for Democrats and GOP critics to actually understand that. Atleast the Dems took the GOP's stick(pacifier) away from them..the resolution passed, now they can put their panties back on.

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H P Boston — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 19:42:44 GMT

I think the best thing to do is just chill and find a better name for the General.

GENERAL CHICKEN SHIT BETRAY US, and we give him 5 stars for being a good liar.
After all he earned it, if he had not lied for the shrub he would be in a heap of rubble in ANBAR!!!!

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:01:34 GMT

Well, H P Boston, Admiral Fallon summed it all up quite well when he referred to Betray Us as an "ass-kissing little chickenshit." For those who are ignorant, Admiral Fallon was Betray Us's superior.

Now... I want those on the Right (and those worthless dweebs on the Left) who voted for this 'resolution' to do the same thing to Admiral Fallon. Do it!

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David, Houston, Texas — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:03:03 GMT

Matthew, you don't have to remind us to 1942. We are still frightened to think the KKK hanged people because of their color. And Matthew, you should be lucky to think you are living in the 21st century when you can access different voices in the internet.

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AKinGA — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:23:08 GMT

I don't remember seeing such an outrage over the other non-binding resolutions introduced by demoncrats. Guess they are wimps too. But what's more important, all of Democrats are cowards, that betrayed this country.

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Caroline Stone, Santa Monica, Ca. — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:27:27 GMT

I suggest all you people who think it's "ok" for movon.org to run this ad, move out of the U.S.
It's people like you who are destroying our country.

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Isabelle Lino — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:28:58 GMT

How do some of you live with the hate you have for the military? The Moveon.org flap had nothing to do with free speech. No one said they, or anyone else, cannot say what they want. It was a hateful anti-American display to put that ad in the Times. The Times should have refused it. That type of display is unprecedented. Anyone one in agreement with that organization should receive the kind of criticism they are getting today.

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Komol Edgard, Twin Falls MT — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:31:24 GMT

A free speech issue?!?!?

Here's some free speech. You people are deranged.

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J, Kennebunkport, Texas — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:32:50 GMT

These sleazy politicians can take out ads anytime they want to attack each other and manipulate public opinion to suit their own agendas, but when a grass-roots organization of actual American CITIZENS express an opinion we have to suffer through this demented stupidity.

What happened to our freedom of speech? It seems to have left the country when this regime took power.

Shame on dorky McCain. Once thought to be the only Republican with the guts to go against the administration and stand for something, he's turned into another Rudy-type sell out for political gain.

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Bill, Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:32:56 GMT

You liberals are amazing! This is a tactic to corner the democratic party and type cast them in a specific and undesirable light. Are you really so stupid not to understand that that is what the democrats have done for 6 years solid before they one back the house and senate?!?

Please tell me that you are not THAT stupid!!!!!!!

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BillinDetroit, Detroit — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:33:22 GMT

So, which nutshell is the pea under this time?

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John Wayne — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:40:27 GMT

There certainly are some pathetic people posting here!
We all need to back our soldiers, move down .org went too far.

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Teejoy — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:45:57 GMT

Oh please! You Dems need to stop acting holier than thou. Moveon.org went over the line and they're being called on it. Get. Over. It!!!

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Dave, Tn — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:51:44 GMT

non binding vote on a BS ad by a bunch of worthless Liberals? Hey you stupid Republicans in the Senate. Stop acting like worthless democrats!!! That's what got you thrown out for in 06

PS: If you can't see the difference in an attack on a Politicians running for President who just happened to serve in Vietnam for 4 months, and a current General risking his life now you need help. Duke Cunningham was a highly decorated Vietnam "hero" look where he is.

Besides who needs a bogus move like this when there is all kinds of video floating around of "so called" democrat leaders that can be used in ads later with that moveon ad as a back drop :-)

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Toris — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:52:26 GMT

Live General out of politics but if General want to get involve in politics then he should face the consequence.

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Toris — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 20:52:26 GMT

Live General out of politics but if General want to get involve in politics then he should face the consequence.

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John Doe — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:03:10 GMT

This isn't the first time a punchline cost us an election. The GOP will always have one thing that keeps making them look good; over-zealous liberals like MoveOn and M. Moore who continue to make the Dems look foolish. When will they wake up? Or was JFK the last solid Dem?

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Soldier1, Killeen, TX — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:15:20 GMT

H P: WTF. Disrespecting a 4 star general. WTF have you done lately? Have you ever served? How many ribbons for bravery and galantry do you have? How many times have you rucked up and humped the bush? When was the last time your sorry azz smelled death and gunpowder? Thats what I thought, Just another piss poor, trifling example of someone that hasnt got a clue in hell. Your about as stupid as you sound. We use to take little punks like you and chew you up and spit you out. Then stomp on you.

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CitizenJ — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:17:34 GMT

Yada yada yada.

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:30:44 GMT

M. Boley: Right here. And yes,this is the most respected political campaign monies watchdog in America. Not ''FOX/Limbaugh''. www.opensecrets.org The Center for Responsive Politics,By Candidate.Political Campaign Contributions.

Every single last Democrat who voted against the Cornyn amendment is being funded by MOVEON. Ergo: ''we bought it,we own it''.

The homework now is to identify every single major member or contributor in MOVEON and match these later to any names being fronted by either Dem candidate which would use these in their administration or God forbid,cabinet. Further,to match Hsu and Chatwal bundlers to MOVEON as a conduit of illegal campaign monies

Also see: The Federal Election Commission www.fec.gov

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Debbie Dade — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:32:42 GMT

You know, I'd pay money to see some of the comments of the people posting here said directly by them to General Petraeus. Not because he would be physical with them, or not even that he would berate them to their face. He would probably say that he respects their opinion, but also respectfully disagrees with them.

I expect he certainly would show a considerable amount of class in his response. That tells you something about the man. It also tells you something about the people posting here.

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Jim Bentley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:36:32 GMT

;; Well, Lee, if you have proof that those who voted against the 'resolution' are 'in the pocket' of MoveOn then you had better post it. Otherwise, retract what you said now. ;;;

Hey Boley, you impeding someones right to free speech?

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:56:18 GMT

All right, Debbie, so why was Betray Us called a 'chickenshit' by his boss, Admiral Fallon? Care to enlighten us on that or would that be painful for you as it would go against your personal feelings about Betray Us.

I mean... if he's so damn classy and all that then why would his superior trash him the way he did?

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M. Boley — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 21:59:06 GMT

Nope, Jim, sorry... no cigar. Never said anything about 'impeding' - I think the word you want would be 'stifling' but anyway... - anyone's 'free speech' BUT I do believe in being ACCURATE and HONEST. Sure, I wouldn't want to STIFLE Limbaugh, Hannity, or Levin - after all, they are entertining in that they are loonies - but I have issues with people who have a habit of passing off OPINIONS as FACTS.

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JIrby, Colorado — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:09:41 GMT

I think MoveOn has learned from this opportunity they gave the Repubs, and will try things that are just as effective, but not something the Repubs will be able to sink their teeth into. Since Repubs have no credibility, they won't get as much mileage out of this as they would have before most people realized that they are a bunch of scum bags.

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YouStartIt — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:51:12 GMT

So MoveOn.Org is such big deal now, let's go to visit that web site and read it now. Because Bush hates it, it got to be very interesting!!!

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Debbie Dade — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:00:10 GMT

My M.Boley, if you're so interested in what Fallon said, why don't you go research why he said it?

That's all I know is that a 4 star general sat there and answered every question asked of him with dignity and class, even in the face of some pretty outlandished statements by some of the people questioning him.

If you want to side with the Moveon.org crowd, be my guest. It certainly tells me a lot about you.

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 23:05:42 GMT

Boley: You have been presented with not one fact,but several. If you wish to refute MOVEONs influence on these Democrats,then by all means do so. But do it.

www.opensecrets.org

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Scott in South Texas — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:32:06 GMT

Soldier1, Killeen, TX is our friend InTheMiddle, TX. It's obvious, from his spelling of "azz", right down to bragging about how he used to beat up smaller soldiers.

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Greers Piers, Mankato MN — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:09:05 GMT

Votes are in, and the Dummycrats lose again.

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richie m , n ft myers FL — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 02:23:14 GMT

MOVEON.ORG --- A fine organization for brown-shirts and red-shirts and pink-eyes. Does Moveon ever ever do anything charitable for widows, orphans or the toothless? If gut-less could stop famine, this 503-c would get my vote for Divider of the Sea International. Larry Flynt makes the Moveon guy look like a weasel. After all, Larry has the guts to appear in public with his accusing hookers, even after someone let the air out of his wheelchair tires .. Moveon Maveric sits in his Control Tower Watchroom and breathes CO to prepare him for his next stop on the worldwide takeover tour ... Hugo Chavez and Abadabadingdong visit the UN w/in the coming days. I trust MOVEONDOTORGY.COM will escort them on their tour of the GOTHAMCITY ... ps the pizza and hoagies at 23rd and Park are the BEST.....

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Slevin Kelevra — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 03:28:33 GMT

What absolutely disgusts me is that 22 Democrats voted to condemn the ad, some of the same freshman Senators who were elected to end the war in Iraq. Hav cowed under the imaginary fear of what a republican might say. I say the Democrats in the Congress and Senate need to grow a pair and stand up to the republicans in Congress!

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M. Boley — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:41:14 GMT

Debbie...

I know why he said it. Obviously, you don't.

I am not siding with anyone simply because I am not a 'joiner'. All I care about is accuracy and intelligence. Your assessments of Petraeus are simply biased personal observations - which are unimportant - and nothing more.

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H P Boston — Fri, 21 Sep 2007 16:20:14 GMT

Soldier1 or in the muddle or whoever...W T F do you know about me, you bully.
I gave BETRAY US 5 that's FIVE stars for the heroic way he lied for bush, what more do you want!!!

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Ellouise Pritchett, Avon Park, Florida — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:12:58 GMT

Oh my, I've come to the tea party a bit late haven't I? May I still join in? You see, I wasn't yet born when some brave souls pitched a load of tea into Boston Harbor in protest against the behavior of a man who governed them - and his minions. Some of my ancestors were alive then, however, and followed through in their discontent. As a result we have a national celebration each and every year - July 4th - Independence Day! I don't plan on giving it up - do you?