Giuliani 'outrage' over Ahmadinejad

Rudy sucks — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:20:23 GMT

Everything is an "outrage" with this quivering bag of lies and equivocation, except creeping fascism and stinking politicians sucking on 9/11 for everything they can get from it. Suck on it, Rudy.

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M. Boley — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:38:30 GMT

And Bush and his government are helping to kill innocent Iraqis. So what is your point, Rudy?

Perhaps Bush should be barred from going to other countries since he sems to be doing a lot of killing lately.

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Pat, Huntington, NY — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:47:45 GMT

Of course its an outrage to Rudy, because the Iranian President is a teddy bear compared to His Rudeness, Rude-y the Bully Guiliani!

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Nicholas, Minneaps, MN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:49:41 GMT

I see ol' Rudy is playing to the base again in a what can now be described as his usual flamboyant style. The trick (and perhaps Repubs have difficulty with this) is to not get bogged down in the lies and the propaganda. G-Obama '08 was absolutely right when he said that not talking with the enemies is not punishment to them. Our country instead needs to work with these other 'problem countries' and negotiate an understanding. Barring that, Faux News (I'm not sure if I can print FOX), is incredibly entertaining and can be very informational, you only have to sift through the half truths, which is something out nation's populace cannot always do.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:49:51 GMT

Good. Be outraged at Ahmedinejad. He represents one of the most vile forms of government ever conceived. Theocracy.
Let us hope that his feet are held to fire by questioners if questions are being allowed.
Now, lets back off on the attacks on Columbia for doing their job of intellectual inquiry. Considering the intensity of the saber rattling of late it is extremely important for many voices to be heard and much thinking to be done by a citizen in a free society where free speech is not feared but revered. Our enemies should know that we have no need shield a free informed citizenry from their words.

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bb — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:50:32 GMT

What an OUTRAGE!! Rudy is a lying greaseball. Go away Rudy! Go pick out a new gown for your next debate.

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Dot, Illinois — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:53:12 GMT

Suggestion to Mayor Giuliani:

Enough about the cell phone call already. It was a silly stunt in the first place--let it rest.

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Pat Reynolds, Las Vegas, Nevada — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:55:26 GMT

If Ahmedinejad wants to speak at our universities why doesn't he apply for a student visa and wait to speak at a university until he is invited like any other student who has an opinion and thoughts...just because a country of flawed ideals and terrorists "elect" him doesn't mean he is qualified to speak to our nations youth. I think maybe the powers at Columbia should go to speak in Iran first..wouldn't that be fair ? Sounds like the university president likes him so much..maybe he won't mind learning more from their people before inviting them to share their ideas with our student. Bet he's never been to iran.

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Adam — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:58:08 GMT

How typically un-American of Giuliani... Last time I checked, we still allowed people to say what they wanted (after all, he gets to play "dress up" and run his mouth). No matter who they are or where they are from. We don't have to like/agree/listen to what they have to say.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:59:41 GMT

I'm not a big defender of Iran, but do we have any evidence that the Iranian government is plotting against American troops and/or killing American troops? He's helping "the people" - which people? I feel like I missed something somewhere.

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Nicholas, Minneaps, MN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:01:39 GMT

Dear Jerry,

As you mentioned over the weekend, neither H.R. Clinton nor R. Giuliani are very trustworthy as candidates. Yet, both of them being the frontrunners, what does that say about our country (who consistently claims that they do not care for that type of candidate). Their viewpoints my differ, but their politics are little different from President G.W. Bush. H.R. Clinton is only doing as well as she is because 1) she is a woman in a party in which the majority of members are women and wish to be empowered and 2) because she has Fmr. President W.J. Clinton's political contacts and political capital. Yes, I will concede, she is talented in her own right and is warming up to a personality, but I believe her success is largely related to the previous 2 points. She has that advantage, and I won't hold that against her.

That is why my top four candidates are Obama (of course), Biden, Romney and Huckabee--though I worry deeply about the separation of church and state with him as that is a very important issue to me. I don't believe that America can go wrong with any of these candidates, whereas some of the rest will royally *something, something* us over. In the field available, I feel that they are the best hopes for this country.

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John Holton — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:02:13 GMT

Since when is it "outrageous" to have "Freedom of Speech" in a democracy? Or, Mr. Giuliani, do we live in one?

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Blue state baby — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:11:58 GMT

Who cares what RudytheRat thinks.

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M. Boley — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:17:56 GMT

"I'm not a big defender of Iran, but do we have any evidence that the Iranian government is plotting against American troops and/or killing American troops?"

Well, whatever the Bush Administration trots out as 'evidence' I won't believe it. Can't fool me twice.

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Lee Holmes — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:19:46 GMT

Gary:Then you should have no problem explaining what the leftwing did to former Clinton Education Sec and Harvard President Larry Summers last week at UC Irvine.

Adam: See above.

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Allan Hallock — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:22:51 GMT

Freedom of speech is the right of every American citizen. When did this Iranian madman become a citizen?

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Dan, Long Island, New York — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:28:14 GMT

Your right Rudy....this piece of garbage Ahmedinejad who is supporting the war against peace which in turn is killing our troops and others around the world, shouldn't have been aloud to set foot in this country. How foolish of the people who think Ahmedinejad should be aloud here to speak to Columbia students, this "garbage can" of terror had the nerve to say he wanted to show support to the families of 9/11 for their loss, while he laughs at us from within. How dare he. How about demanding he publicly speaks out against the terrorists and so called religious groups that cause bloodshed and terror. He smiles in our faces while taking us as fools,idiots and hating all Americans. It was a big mistake allowing him here to enjoy American freedoms he doesn't deserve it. If someone in his country has a free thought they are jailed and even killed for it. America is not perfect and throughout history we have supported certain groups and political agendas for better or worse. Unfortunately this visit falls in the worse category.
God Bless America and all who have fallen for our freedom

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Robert Catalano, Salem, OR — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:41:04 GMT

What is an outrage is when Rudy accuses the Iranian President of trying to make political hay out of the ruins of 9-11 an occurance he has been shameless in doing himself.

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Lee Delaney, Las Vegas — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:42:25 GMT

Why does this smarmy little man think that anything he says and does is important to anyone who believes in a country where people are free to express their views and their opposition to other's views? Where they are free to have anyone they choose to listen to be given the right to talk? "Freedom of Speech" is one of the cornerstones of our nation, and if people like this small time Hitler feel it is their right to deny it they are free to do, but they should bear in mind that what the right to speak what they say is granted to them by the same great Constitution that allows President Ahmadinejad to address people at Columbia. And absolutely no, the protection and the rights granted by our Constitution do not apply only to Americans despite what some small munded fools would believe; they are available for all the world.

I am so sick of this bunch of Republican empty suits running around naysaying everything, demanding people live their lives in fear, condemning that which does not meet their narrow minded views and wrapping themselves in the flag while at the same time rejecting everything and all that our Constitution stands for. The Republican Party used to be a great party intent on making America greater and greater in the world. If you listen to the current crop of small minds that front the party you wonder where the greatness went, and when the wish for a greater America has was lost in preaching of hatred, fear, division and jingoism. Americ needs the Republican Party; we just don't need this one. Better leaders need to be allowed to come forward rather than being kept in the background by a delusional President and a small group of his followers, whose hold on the party is bolstered by the Republican inability to speak ill of their leaders. They're out there. Perhaps someday they will restore the glory of the Party.

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FStLouis — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:44:13 GMT

Aha! You are right bb, Rudy IS a lying greaseball! Ive been saying that for years. So let this Iranian leader speak. So what. We know hes a nutcase just like our boy president.

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B.A. KELLEY, FT. LAUDERDALE, FL — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:48:23 GMT

TO NICHOLAS, MINNEAPS, MN.....YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY A CHAUVINIST!!!!! WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHETHER THE PRESIDENT IS A MAN OR WOMAN...AS LONG AS THEY HAVE THE SMARTS (AS YOU STATED H.R.CLINTON DOES) AND THE GUTS TO MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS FOR OUR COUNTRY..IN DEFFERENCE TO OUR PRESENT PRESIDENT WHO IS A MALE..... AND SHE HAS BILL TO BACK HER....SO WHAT'S UP WITH YOU!!!!!!

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jeff abrams, los alamitos CA — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:54:05 GMT

It is no surprise that the Bush Administration and it's wannabes (AKA Rudy's Raiders) are against free speech. You cannot control the masses until you completely decide who and what they will get an opprtunity to listen to. Next thing we see will be a Book Burning (unless it's Rudy's newest book).

Wake up America, your fundamental rights are being taken away by this group of flag waving "Know it alls". What have they accomplished in 6 years ? Loss of Liberties ? That seems to be the Bush agenda and sadly on that score they have been successful.

What ever happened to "Keep your friends close and your enemy's closer" ? We need to have serious dialogue with Iran in order to dissuade them from using their power to de-stabilize the region.

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Kell Meier, Chicago, IL — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:56:49 GMT

DailyKos had a poll for its readers (those people know how to read?). The poll was 'do you want to live under Bush or Ahmedinejad's leadership'. 45% said Ahmedinejad was fine for them.

The stunner here is that DailyKosers could only muster 45% approval for Ahmedinejad. You'd think it would be around 85-90%.

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Commerce City Colorado — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:57:53 GMT

Adam what is wrong with your head? Freedom of speech is an American right and not one that is endorsed in Iran. Have you even been where my boots have been to know what these people are capable of. Huddle behind your keyboard and hope that you are not the next terrorist victim while my brothers and sisters slug it out in enemy territory.
Count your days Dems as you will surely cut our military budget and bring danger once again to our country.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:03:08 GMT

"Freedom of speech is the right of every American citizen. When did this Iranian madman become a citizen?" - Allan Hallock

Allan - What the heck are you talking about? Are you saying that foreign visitors and/or immigrants aren't protected by the first amendment, and can get thrown in jail if a cop doesn't like what they say? That's a pretty ridiculous argument.

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Richard A. Swaney — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:11:18 GMT

dinejad would like to tell his side of the story. What in Rudy afraid of ? No Iranians were on the planes that crashed on 9/11. I sure as hell trust Ahmad more than I trust the International Terrorist, Bush. Talk may be cheap, but war is NOT.

Bush is a bully and a troublemaker, prepared to war against Iran for no reason but OIL !! There's plenty of money for Social Security if we can exit Bush's
brain rotted, megalomaniacal wars on non-christians.

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bobf — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:11:44 GMT

Allan why are you so scared. Is he going to kill you. Oh yeah W says they are killing americans. I do not trust the liar in chief. He will say anything to get people's mind off Iraq. Hell W already started the Iraq war for political purposes, why the hell would he not start a second one for political reasons. You know Allan you do not have to listen. Just like a TV you can change the channel but guess what, this guy is not going anywhere. So we either start talking and try to resolve our issues or the scared little chickenhawks like Allan would prefer a military solution. Instead of diplomacy and talking, Allan is to scared to listen and wants more war. Typical repug's, all talk no walk. I have never seen so many cowards in my life as these chicken hawk republicans. They all talk tough about war and death, but these yellow bellied pigs would never lift a finger to fight for this country. Why should they, just look at the republican leadership: AWOL Bush, 5 deferment coward Cheney, Pimple on my ass Linpbaugh. These republicans are just emulating their heroes. They have no problem with other people fighting for them. Just do not expect any of these cowards to stand up for america. They are to busy blaming liberals for all that is wrong in the world.

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cliff toronto canada — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:13:42 GMT

there is no need to be afraid of giving the iranian president his moment of truth, we live in a so called free society, but everything thats happening indicates that we have hugh double standards, if he speaks we have the choice to agree or disagree with his points of view, and if the truth hurts so be it , atleast the american public will not have to be so heavily influnced by distortion of the truth as we constantly get from the Bush admin

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"Ignorance is Strength" — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:17:26 GMT

"What ever happened to 'Keep your friends close and your enemy's closer' ? " You'd have had to have read a book in the course of getting your yale and harvard degrees to be familiar with that quote, and that's one thing I've never heard anybody accuse Bush of.

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Robert Catalano, Salem, OR — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:31:14 GMT

Well, I think it's interesting the Iranian President is supported by more Iranians than Bush is by Americans.

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Rick, WS, NC — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:31:50 GMT

I see a few chickehawks showed up to tell us all how bad the leader of iran is..like duh...too bad the chickenhawks won't fight iran except on their keyboards of course...

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Pat, Huntington NY — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:36:19 GMT

No one should be surprised by Rudy's opposition to free speech and academic freedom. As mayor of NYC, he worked really hard against free speech rights and academic freedom in his typical bullying way. And if you said something he didn't like, you mysteriously disappeared in the middle of the night, never to be heard from again.

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Dennis Trifiletti — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:48:05 GMT

I am really sickened to what this country has become since the trickle down immorality campaign of the early and mid 90's. This country needs a leader to say "NO" you are not welcome here to speak your tongue, when you are a bedfellow of terrorists, who breeds and harbors the same vermen that killed our people on 9/11. Where are the Balls of our leaders these days? Rudy, I applore you and your feelings, because you are one of us, and yes you have balls,a real American Leader!

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Dave Mishem — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:48:14 GMT

Allan, have you actually ever READ the first amendment? Hate to break it to you buddy, but there's nothing in there about citizens vs. non-citizens.

It's morons like you that give us Americans a bad name. Read more and talk less.

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Marilyn Sanders, Manitou Springs, CO — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:52:24 GMT

I protest the bias I saw this morning on MSNBC. The hostess interviewed a man and a woman who spoke for the Jewish lobby and she agreed with them. The woman actually suggested "protecting" Pres. Ahmadinejad with "all Jewish policemen." I was surprised not to see a more fair and balanced presentation on MSNBC. Take some responsibility for a peaceful conclusion to the Mid East crisis, please.

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lets think — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:59:02 GMT

This really blows my mind. The defenders of this Iranian leader are my fellow citizens. What is up with that. Remember he was there when Carter was President, he admitted he was envolved. This guy wants Isreal wiped off the map. Can we be so blinded by hate that some of you hold this guy up as a hero? I do not support every thing the current admin has done nor did I the previous. However to make statements comparing the President of the US to this wacko is crazy! Get a grip on reality, if the same posts were made in Iran reffering to their Pres you would probably wind up in prison. They have shut down all oposition press outlets, and will throw your wife in prison for showing her wrists. Every one wants to throw out the freedom of speech argument. What about freedon of speech in Iran? How much does this Iranian Pres allow in his own country? WE all want to complain about President Bush, about illegal wire taping,. how he thinks he is above the law. If you really want to see abuse look at this guy whos rights you are defending. We are however all Americans (or most of us) this man has reffered to us as his enemy. There is proof that the cud is delivering weapons to be used against our soldiers (our sons and daughters) in Iraq. Is there no love for our own country? ok I have heard the argument that if you dont hate this President you are unAmerican...BS When you publicly embrace our enemy you show nothing but contempt for your country. He has no rights here! Put him in a cage like he did our people in 1981. Grow up! You dont have to love or support the leader but you must the office and the country!!

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John Dupont — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:59:13 GMT

Traitor and Israeli agent Giuliani cannot be taken seriously here. He is from the gang of Bush that has isolated our country from our deepest values and destroyed our democratic system from within only to protect Israel. You know what I find outrageous...? That these treacherous politicians still get a platform!

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Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:59:24 GMT

"That's a pretty ridiculous argument. " Anything else ever come from the right wing?

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SM, Englewood CO — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:00:00 GMT

You're all a bunch of worthless loosers... and should be ashamed of yourselves. I don't care if you like or dislike Rudy, George, Nancy, or Harry... you're pathetic! GET OVER YOUR YOURSELF FOR ONCE AND STICK UP FOR YOUR COUNTRY! YOU SELFISH CHILDREN!

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Nicholas, Minneaps, MN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:00:01 GMT

Response to B.A. Kelley--

I'm not quite sure where you come to the charge about me being a chauvinist. I never stated whether her (Sen. Clinton's) sex would make her a better or worst leader of the United States; to the contrary, I posited that her style of politics would further divide our great nation in my opinion. I would love for a woman, black, Hispanic President just as much as a white man--which is a valid choice too, and that does not make me racist or sexist. I merely stated that her popularity can be largely attributed to the fact that she is a woman and her connections through Fmr. Pres. Clinton. I also stated that I don't fault her for that, but it is what I see as the truth.

It seems to me to be well documented in polls that Sen. H.R. Clinton gains a lot of her support from women. I think it fair to say that her popularity among women is not solely due to her skill as a politian, but is in part because she is a woman. Unless all of those women know something that the *lesser sex* is unaware of. Now that would be a sexist claim! I will give a for example, a close woman to me states that she will vote for the best candidate, but all being equal, she will chose the woman. My point was that I do not personally feel that Sen. Clinton fits the all-things-equal statement. But that would not make me a chauvinist. Oh yeah, except Barack Obama seems to have captured the higher educated block of voters.

Here's on for you, I actually think that Congresswoman N. Pelosi is an incredibly intelligent and skilled Speaker of the House, and I would not wish anybody different. She is an example of a leader who put aside politics (she is being challenged from the left in her district) to represent the country in a fair manner.

I would, in fact, charge that you might be more sexist. You appear to be either so in love with Sen. Clinton that she can do no wrong or eager to make such a hurtful charge. Get your facts straight before you make such an unfair and hateful charge against another person. I am all for freedom of speech, but it is this kind of speech (in my opinion) that divides our nation so greatly and is one part of the hindrance to progress with different minority groups, whatever they may be.

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Pacheck, Huntington Beach, Ca. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:02:30 GMT

Attack a small country under false pretenses, suspend habius corpus, illegially spy on the citizens, sell your business base to foriegn companies and now try and stop "free speech." what is happening to our country. Free speech is a concept that was guarnteed to the people of the U.S. by the constitution. This wonderful concept allows people to listen to what ever they want to and to decide what they themselves will in turn believe. When you get people trying to tell what you can listen to and what you must say or do, people are no longer free. The american citizen is smarter than they think. We are able to spot a phony and a lier. We have had a lot of experience lately.

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twostepcub — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:03:07 GMT

Yay! Something for the outrage trolls to get their panties in a bunch for. By overexposing this supposed wingnut, aren't you promoting his supposed "cause" even more? Has there been much reported on what he actually was there for? Trust me, I ain't defending the guy, but this fake "horror" crap is pure Repub chum. Not for nothing, but didn't Iran help the US corner certain taliban in afghanistan? I may be wrong (and heck, I'd admit it) but I remember something about that back in the day that catching the real 9/11 perpetrators matters. By no means is that country scot-free from terrorism (the support to hamas/hezbollah is sorrowful) but it takes a man to confront them on it, but puff out your chest (that means you, mr colorado). Treat this for the red-meat stunt that it is (If I was more paranoid I'd almost say he was in on the deal).

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Redneck,Arkansas City, Ks. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:03:19 GMT

Were the bleeding hearts at Columbia University thinking that the dictator of Iran is really just a nice guy and America should try to get to know him? God help us if we have to rely on them to defend our country and it will need defending...sooner than you want to face the fact. We are a weak nation of weak people due to our wealth. Take a good look at the Middle East. It is all about the haves and the have nots and the leaders of those countries are the haves who only talk the talk of caring about the have nots.
These people have nothing to lose and these dictators only fuel the fire of discontent under the facade of religion.

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Ann, Portland OR — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:08:26 GMT

Rudy is absolutely correct. I can't believe those of you on this string supporting AHMEDINEJAD to set foot in our country and to have the honor to speak at Columbia University? If it's a UN mandate then keep him at the UN headquarters but the world can laugh now at how we let terrorists into our country and then protect them while they're here...It the Visa dept didn't stop it...Bush should have stopped this from happening...or at least made an announcement that due to UN rules he will be here and will be escourted out immediatly...this is an outrage...a joke that our soldiers are currently being killed while we welcome the attacker on our soil. Anyone supporting his visit here is UNAMERICAN...How our system and politicians let this happen is disgusting...

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S. B. Stein E.B. NJ — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:09:53 GMT

Ahmedinejad can say what ever he likes. The point is that he is a head of state. Because of that, there are some things that they can get away with and places to be invited to. Granted this one supports terrorism and shipping weapons into Iraq (even if they aren't officially doing, then they are looking the other way which is pretty much giving their approval) among other things. Ahmedinejad also denies the Holocaust where 11 million people (mostly Jews) were murdered because of who they are. How many other heads of states threaten to wipe another soverign country off the map. I know that our leaders only threaten to kill other leaders and groups.

I wonder if someone had as much of a problem with the Iranian government as many American do, could they complain without fear? I know that most people would ask me to shut up only because I would be loud. Do the local Iranian population have to worry about being arrested for say they think their president is a piece of doggie doo? I know I won't.

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I love america — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:10:51 GMT

how do we know that this so called "diplomat" is not here on a scouting trip for more terroristic threats to our country? I say let the future generation of leaders at Columbia have a go at him, see if he blinks or lies straight to their faces. Perhaps we should have a few of the survivors from 9/11 escort him around the city in a back alley......

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Jim, St. Augustine, Fl. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:11:46 GMT

I sincerely doubt that I'll hear anything more stupid, insincere or blatantly B.S. from Ahmedinejad than I've heard from Bush, Rove, Cheney and Rumsfeld.
However, when you consider that Bush managed to get into the Oval Office twice, maybe we shouldn't let the American electorate see anything but the cartoon network.

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Wes, Galt, Ca — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:11:48 GMT

As much as I am outraged that he comes to our country. I have to say bravo for the bravery and fortitude it takes. Last time I checked, our leaders go to countries where we are not liked and allowed to speak. So we should offer them the same courtesy. In this day and age, who really knows what the truth is and who is speaking it. We hear his version of the truth. We've heard george bush's version for almost eight years. If we can have peace and diplomacy with Iran, why not? Are we determined to keep straining relations or willing to make amends and repairs. Peace can only be sought when both sides can admit their wrongs.

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Jerry Buchanan, Florida — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:12:33 GMT

I think thats it wonderful that we can fully express out selves. In Iran some of these view point would have gotten you guys in thouble and I'm glad we all only have one vote.

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Geno, Fredericksburg, Va — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:13:19 GMT

He spoke, he's an idiot and a terrorist. His right to free speech while in America was left intact and as he stated, "there are no homosexuals in Iran". Of course not, the death penalty in Iran sees to that! You are all a bunch of idiots! LOL

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Troy — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:18:57 GMT

Everyone should note that when Ahmedinejad said he would attack no country, that he does not believe or admit that Israel is a country. He has always refered to them as the "Zionist Regime".

Get ready for it. He is a fanatic and a consumate liar.

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Derek O-H-I-O — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:23:04 GMT

I'm not a big rudy guy, but i think he is outraged because the Iranians are supplying weapons that are killing americans, and his goverment is supporting both humas and hazbelah. free speech is fine but alot of americans have lost someone they are close to in this war if the iranians are supplying weapons then i want this man arrested and tried for murder after he speaks

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Lee Holmes — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:25:30 GMT

The idea,as proposed by the left,is that ''talk''can do more to get the Iranians to a ''table''.In the light of this,it is useful to observe that the EU,the IAEA,the UN,and now,in the form of Columbia University,the US,have all advanced platforms for this ''talk''.
To see what this has produced,we need look no further than what has been occurring in Syria and Iraq in the last week vis-a-vis Iran.

While Mahmoud was getting ready for his trip to New York,the London Times and REUTERS on the 20th and 22nd of this month had confirmed two things.

One. ''Blast At Secret Syrian Missle Site Kills Dozens''-Scientists and workers were attempting to fit a SARIN nerve agent on a SCUD warhead when the missle fuel mixture interacted with the gas,causing an explosion,which released the nerve gas over a section of the Syrian city of Aleppo.''Dozens of Iranian advisers died when the fuel caught fire and exploded''.

Two. The Times has now confirmed that a Israeli commando unit sent into Syria to gain evidence of nuclear weapons research ahead of the Sept.6 attack by an IDF airstrike returned with nuclear materials which bear markings of a North Korean origin. North Korea has confirmed through REUTERS [Sept.22,2007] that several of its scientists were killed in the strike. As we speak,Syrian diplomats are now in Pyongyang deciding their next move. The IAEAs Mohammed El-Baradei acknowlages that both the assistance of the AQ Khan network and the North Koreans have led to an increase of centerfuges being sent to Iran which have but one purpose. To extract weapons-grade uranium.

In Iraq,Irans proxy war continues with the capture last week,of a top QUDS Force operative along the Iranian border in Sulimaniyah Province, who is now being grilled by Army intelligence. Six others,all Iranians,were also captured by coalition forces who have observed increasing activity by regular Iranian forces along the northern Kurdish border which have resulted in artillary strikes from the Iranian side of the border.[NEWSWEEK Sept.07,2007 and VOA/REUTERS Sept.20.2007]

Lost inside of the argument that ''Bush is ignoring the recommendations of the 9/11 Commissions findings'' by virtually all of the top Democrats and their candidates for president is this,located on the Reports Page 241:

''This topic requires further investigation by the US government''.

What is ''this topic''? It is,as Mike Issikoff and Mark Hosenball observed in an MSNBC report on July 23,2004,the evidence gleaned by the 9/11 Commission through German intelligence that Iranian QUDS and HEZBOLLAH played a role in the 9/11 hijackings.[10 of the 11 so-called ''muscle''hijackers[those who used physical force to gain control of the aircraft],were trained in Iran and all held Iranian passports and of these,one,Ramzi Binalbish,traveled to Tehran in response to an invitation less than seven months before the 9/11 attacks].

Ahmedinjenad merely gains further currency for his mad desires by counting correctly upon the lack of US desire in the wake of the unpopular war in Iraq that he can do any and all that he wishes in order to create a new Iranian Empire,backed by nuclear and C/B missles,in the Middle East and that we will acquiesce in the furthering of this goal. Of everyone involved in this drama with its global implications,only Israel has played its cards with a strong hand in acting while the democracies ''talk''the deal into dazed stupification. The Democrats,frightened to death of their parties leftwing,will be effectively neutered in dealing with Irans nuclear and empire ambitions,and of course,will not act until it is too late. The left itself,as has been obviously displayed by its comments and support,is allied to the intentions of the terrorist HEZBOLLAH which it deems a ''freedom movement''.

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nuanced — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:26:22 GMT

Will someone please ask Rudy if it was an outrage for Jesse Helms and other prominent Republicans to invite Roberto D'Aubuisson, head of the death squads in El Salvador, to a Washington dinner in his honor and to shake his hand and praise him. D'Aubuisson was responsible for the death of Archbiship Romero and 3 American nuns. He was also known as "Blowtorch Bob," or simply "The Blowtorch," for his preference in using a blowtorch to torture political prisoners.

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James Stepp Orlando, Florida — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:26:59 GMT

God, would I love to see a fact check against some of the misconceptions I hear and read about everything our "news" reports. A lot of people are under the misconception that Iraq was involved in 9/11! I see it as a testament to the effectiveness of our political propaganda.

By the way, did anyone read what Cheney's solution to Iran was? He wanted to goad Israel into attacking them and then using their reaction to that attack as a pretext for military action on our part! Bush is a front. Cheney is the real danger in the White House and always was.

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Kevin, Fort Worth, TX — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:27:38 GMT

Give me a break!!! You freaking liberals are all the same. Freedom of speech in the constitution applies to US citizens. It doesn't apply to stark raving mad lunatics from Iran who deny the holocaust, say Iranian women have freedom (yeah right), and want Israel blown off the world map. We are so bloody politically correct in this country...it is sickening. By the way, check your grammar and spelling before posting something.

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George — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:30:14 GMT

Bill Maher said it best on his show.

"Ahmedinejad was prevented from laying a wreath at Ground Zero because he would be using our national tragedy for crass political purposes...and that's Rudy's Job!"

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CitizenJ — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:30:18 GMT

It seems like Giuliani is outraged a lot these days. And nobody really cares.

I highly doubt the students at one of the top schools in the nation will be brainwashed by Ahmedinejad. People in other nations hate Bush (as they should), and he still speaks. Thankfully, fewer and fewer people are listening.

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David Tully — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:31:02 GMT

Maybe Giuliani & Ahmedinejad can get together and think of something smart to say...maybe

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Baghdad, Iraq — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:33:25 GMT

I have an idea, let's bring Ahmedinejad over for a talk here at my Foward Operating Base in East Baghdad and let him feel/see the casings with Iranian markings left over from rockets and mortar rounds that the local militias are supplied with by Iran and use against us every day. Maybe the US press would cover the story then. Wake up America!!

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Irene Klosko, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:35:30 GMT

Rudy Guliani is a total knitwit. I would prefer to listen to Ahmedinijad speak anyday; at least there's some truth to some of what he says, whereas Guliani lies about absolutely everything. What a jerk!

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Crystal — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:38:05 GMT

Freedom of speech Rocks!!!

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I.B. San marcos, ca — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:41:01 GMT

You're all fools. You hide the fact that you are simply parrots mocking what your partisan gods tell you with what you think is witty, smart-alec comedy. Nobody cares what any of you have to say. It doesn't matter what side you're on, you're all going to die someday and wouldn't it be nice to have had some more time to enjoy life without politics? You have all been fattened to slumber, and when it comes down to it none of you would have what it takes to make a real difference. Shut up. thanks.

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John Doe, Seattle Washington — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:41:02 GMT

I believe the commentors need to move out of the USA and take residence in Iran.. It would do them and their families good to live in that truly oppressed society. If they wrote there what they have had the freedom to write here, they would be stoned to death. God help us that they can vote.

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HOT DAM — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:41:11 GMT

Rudy go put on your red dress and a little lipstick and go dancing. That is what clowns like you do best.

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Billary , Portland, Oregon — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:41:47 GMT

Hatred, Hatred, Hatred - No wonder Liberidiots defend the Iranian Adolph - they share the same senseless hatred - they even share the same enemy - America.

RE: Freedom of Speech - Yes, my overeducated, under intelligent Liberidiots, like it or not, it's true - No foreigner has a RIGHT to speak in America -it is a privilege that is denied Enemies of the State. Period - end of story.(Although I'm sure that Hitler or Jack the Ripper would have a welcome forum at Columbia to explain why they are the victims)

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Sharon Cedar Creek Texas — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:43:01 GMT

Ya know I've read everything carefully and it seems as though the people screaming the loudest about this monsters rights will be the ones screming the loudest for justice when we get blown up again. I wouldn't allow my child to listen to anything this sub-human had to say, and I don't think he should be able to go to Ground Zero either. What a disrespectfull request on his part which tells me there is no heart to this man just pure evil.

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Pat, Mountain Home, ID — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:44:49 GMT

I wish we could be sure that the statements our government officials are making about Iran are any truer that the statements they made about the weapons of mass production in Iraq. It all seems like a maketing scheme put on by the government to convince us someone is bad enough to start talking war about. Isn't this is why you have opinions on both sides of the fence over Ahmedinejad's visit to Columbia. Even though I feel he is someone I can't trust, I would be interested in hearing what he has to say before I ask him to get the h out of America.

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Beth K. Cherry Hill,NJ — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:45:22 GMT

My question is why Columbia University allowed this viper anywhere near the college.This creep should be barred from entering this country no matter what his stated purpose is. It's time we sent the United Nations packing and used the real estate for something truly useful!Since it's creation the UN has done nothing of value, and serves only as a forum for third world lackeys of the former Soviet Union.

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john chapman — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:50:35 GMT

To all you people who think ahmedinejad should be aloud to speak at our Universities, What words of wisdom do you think he will spew?His country throws people in jail or killed outright if they speak out against their leaders.Maybe you all should move to his country and find out how long you would last there!And to those who think there is no proof that Iran is suppling the insurgence with IED and other ways to kill US.Why don't you look at the pictures of the IEDs recovered.there is Iran writting all over them.It's beyond me why you people think he has anything to say to us but convert to Islam or die.He has said what he will do to all who do not convert to Islam.You should thank your lucky stars that you were born in a free country.To those who think how horrible Bush and "His"
goverment is: WAKE UP! Its all our goverment.Love it or leave it!Your people comments are so far to the left that I know you won't approve this at all.It doesn't fit into your agenda of republican bashing.But I had to speak out. John

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:51:51 GMT

Lee Holmes--No problem at all. It looks like faculty members with a political agenda applied pressure to silence someone whose views they disagree with.
Slightly different than the public pressure being applied to Columbia over Ahmadinejad but none the less insidious.
The explanation is that Columbia's administration has bigger civil liberties balls and hence are better Americans than the UC Irvine administration.

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quinn buckner — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:51:53 GMT

What do clowns like you do best Hot Dam? I mean, other then making total fools out of yourself?

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Jill, Saint Louis, Missouri — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:54:51 GMT

People love to throw that freedom of speech line out there. Freedom of speech is for Americans. Our forefathers did not mean freedom of speech is for traitors. Over half the people on this thread would be taken into custody and hung if it were back in the time of THomas Jefferson. Defending someone as evil as this terrorist is treason. With freedom comes responsiblity for your actions and I think most people in this day and age think they can do whatever they want and say whatever they want with no responsibility for their actions. THis means to continue to critisize our fellow americans and defend these evil terrorists. Go visit their countries for awhile and use freedom of speech. I think you would change you tune or you would probably not make it back alive.

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john — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:57:56 GMT

There are 3 great religions: Christian Jewish and Islam.All 3 worship the same God. The God of Abraham.Yet the 3 are at odds with each other,but they wait for an event. Christians wait for the 2nd coming of Jesus, Jews wait for the 1st coming of the Messiah, and Islam waits for the return of the 12th Iman.We should be brothers all.and one day God willing it will be.Be ready!

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 20:58:09 GMT

"Freedom of speech in the constitution applies to US citizens. It doesn't apply to stark raving mad lunatics from Iran" - Kevin, Fort Worth, Texas

Hey, I heard this permanent resident saying something I disagree with personally, maybe they should be thrown in jail.

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Willy Lonetree. Freeport, Illinois — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:00:10 GMT

If Rudy don't like what others say, Oh Well. He don't have to listen. A lot of what he has to say is the same garbage every American political figure has been spuing out all through out history. The Iran President is no different. Spuing out garbage at the political level. Don't wanna hear it Rudy? Don't listen.

Incidently. The Latin definition sums it up pretty well. Poli - means "many" and ticks - of course means "blood suckers"
Politics = Many Blood Suckers!

Rings true with me!

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LibsAreStupid — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:05:20 GMT

Wow, I didn't know there were that many dumb s***s in this country until I read some of the garbage from these left wing dumb s***s. May be we should let all the illegals in and allow them to take the place of the progressively stupid.

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They're all evil — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:05:56 GMT

"Ya know I've read everything carefully and it seems as though the people screaming the loudest about this monsters rights will be the ones screming the loudest for justice when we get blown up again. I wouldn't allow my child to listen to anything this sub-human had to say, and I don't think he should be able to go to Ground Zero either. What a disrespectfull request on his part which tells me there is no heart to this man just pure evil. "

Wow - You and I agree on Cheney COMPLETELY.

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J. Dietzel, Potomac MD. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:08:14 GMT

You may agree or disagree with Rudy's (or any other
US candidate's) view on Columbia's invitation, but
why must bloggers resort to vile and crude name calling of Rudy, Hilary, etc.? Most of their reactions are like those of a six year old. That's why the majority of blogs are absolutely worhtless!

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George McLarty — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:11:04 GMT

This merely shows how a great democracy works. Bush could not do this in Tehran. Three cheers for Columbia and perhaps those complainig should remember we are in a country that proizes free speech.

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Diane, Mobile, AL — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:11:09 GMT

I wish all of you "America haters" would move to Iran and TRY to practice free speech there. Your philosophies mean nothing to these people!

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Steve B., E Longmeadow, MA — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:12:18 GMT

Fortunately, Columbia University let Ahmedinejad speak today. And fortunately also, we here in America are free to hear him, and make up our own minds whether he is lying to us, and/or is a nut-case, any more so than Bush, Cheney, Giuliani, Romney, or any of the others.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:12:54 GMT

Jill:

Freedom of speech does, in fact, allow Americans to speak about this issue, even if they choose to defend his right to be here. The framers believed that political speech should be protected at all costs. It receives an elevated place among the various types of speech that are protected by the First Amendment.

However, even if it didn't, saying that Ahmadinejad should be allowed to give a speech in a private (read, private - not public) American university is not treasonous. Saying that Ahmadinejad should be allowed to attend a UN conference in NY is not treasonous. First of all, we are not at war with Iran. There is no espionage involved here. There is no giving aid to the enemy. I'd like to know what your definition of treason is.

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Alex H, New York Metro Area — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:13:43 GMT

I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it!

The USA is still proud to be able to offer that kind of freedom to anyone, including the Iranian "Mad Dog" who thinks the Holocaust is a myth.

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Ann Taylor — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:14:45 GMT

Impeach Bush and Cheney and let Nancy Pelosi have a chance at running the country. She certain could not do any worse that the current president.

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J. B., Brandon, Fl. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:21:11 GMT

I am surprised by Norah McDonnell after listening to her response and questions after President Ahmadinejad's appearance at Columbia University. Americans should welcome an opportunity to listen to views of leaders of other cultures even if we disagree, after all this administration is already involved in sabre rattling. Additionally, we should hold suspect any politician who would try to restrict our opportunities for dialogue. Americans need to decide for themselves.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:22:29 GMT

Kell Meier, Chicago, IL-(Sent Monday, September 24, 2007 2:56 PM)
I see by your post that your intention is to elevate the discussion by demonizing those that don't share your views. Let me help too.

I heard that Rush is planning his next "Rushstock" rally and they want everyone to dress alike but they can't decide rather to all wear Brown-shirts or go with the basic black military cut with epaulets and double lightning bolts. It seems that a minority are in favor of the brown-shirts but a dominant majority really, really, like Black and silver. So to settle it the leaders of each faction are going to meet in the men's room of the Minneapolis airport and draw swords to see who wins. Short sword loses and will be forced to submit.

There, you called us traitorus scum with Islamic Fundamentalist leanings and I called you and yours mindless latent homosexual fascist sheep with sadomasochistic tendedcies.

A waste of space, a waste of time, and another nail in the coffin of rationality.
Welcome to CROSSFIRE!

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Annya, Bakersfield, CA — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:22:56 GMT

Kevin, Fort Worth, TX

I love you.........you made my day! and "ditto" is all I can say

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Scott, St. Louis MO — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:34:36 GMT

For the record, no news sources are free from bias. CNN, MSNBC, FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, Ny Times, and all others. Everyone has an agenda. They are lying if they tell you otherwise. Your job is to take in as many points of view as you can, then decide for yourself which sources is truth or not. In most cases you can learn from all sides. Don't be a lemming. Ask questions and decide for yourslef. But every point of view and source has value.

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Instant Classic — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:41:14 GMT

"Hatred, Hatred, Hatred - No wonder Liberidiots ..."

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Wibs r stoopit — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:43:19 GMT

"May be we should let all the illegals in and allow them to take the place of the progressively stupid. " Bush supporters? (Got to agree - there are A LOT of really, really stupid people in this country.)

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B.A. KELLEY FT. LAUDERDALE, FL — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:47:29 GMT

TO NICHOLAS: YOU MISSED THE POINT COMPLETELY.....THIS WHOLE THING WAS ABOUT IRAN..YOU HAD TO BRING UP THE FACT THAT H.R.CLINTON WAS A WOMAN. RE-READ YOUR FIRST COMMENT.....WHY EVEN GO INTO IT....JUST TALK ABOUT THE INITIAL ARTICLE INSTEAD OF INCORPORATING HILLARY INTO IT...AS FAR AS I CAN SEE...YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TO EVEN MENTION IT...
WHAT'S UP WITH THAT???

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John — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:47:47 GMT

I have no repect for anyones, any nations or any religions who put women at a second class citizen.
I sometime wonder if them polital leaders or religion leaders came to the world from boars instead of a human!

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Adam Benning, Los Angeles — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:53:44 GMT

People don't seem to complain when Israeli politicians have REPEATEDLY mentioned wiping out the Palestinians. Of course, they've called it innocous names like TRANSFER, and have sickening monikers for human shields, such as the NEIGHBOR POLICY. I can't understand why Rudy and the Jewish public affair committee's are so upset! Israel is one of the worst offenders of human rights.

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Robert Rietkerk Anaheim CA — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:54:51 GMT

Wow. How short some of there writer's memory is. Just 6 years ago America and it's values were attacked. the very same liberals that are now spouting the same old tired political phrases are forgetting that we are fighting a group that would ban all free speech and would have women behid a mask without ANY freedoms. How foolish most of these comments are!

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IMPEACH — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 21:58:19 GMT

I agree with all you say here, Bush really does suck. You all have said the truth about the evil one in thr WH. Good call Bush haters we ate ONE!!!

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Dave, AZ — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:00:06 GMT

Kevin from Texas, did you flunk history in school or are you illiterate? The First Amendemnt applies to everyone, foreigners on our soil as well as our citizens. Did you also think that maybe he is just an act because what he says pisses us off? Abbie Hoffman did the same thing 40 years ago, the more outrageous you are, the more people will believe you. the mullahs in Iran ae the rea power, this guy is a loud mouth meat puppet.

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Marcia Martin, Erie, Colorado — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:05:24 GMT

Everybody talks about Iran supplying weapons to Iraq as though that act alone justifies our nuking Iran yesterday. Look at your history, folks. The US has supplied weapons to insurgencies the US considered more favorable to the US than the ruling faction in many countries at many times. We're not (so far) a pariah state because of it, though we may have more enemies than we would if we hadn't engaged in such reprehensible tactics. You don't have to be a "leftist" to think that the US and other nations should be held to the same standard of international ethics and law... just a reasonable person. I don't like Iran's theocracy either - but I think its leader should have a voice.

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JIrby, Colorado — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:11:00 GMT

Yea, Giuliani! He's outraged over Ahmadinejad. That's the kind of Rebumpkin we want in the White House. But first, he should pass an IQ test to make sure he scores over seventy. We don't want another Bush.

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concern about our country — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:11:25 GMT

The outright distain that many of you use against the President of the U.S. no matter who it is, is a sign of your lack of Patriotism. No foreigner has the same rights in the U.S. as the citizens of this country. This is our birthright. So it goes to say that you would support amnesty to all no matter their intentions towards our great country. This is a mockery to all who have fought and died to give you your birthright. Those brave souls did not fight and die to allow Iran or any one else to come into our land and speak lies as though it was the truth. The fact that you wish to let him be heard speaks to your inability to separate right from wrong.
I hope that your distain is not the attitude of this country, if so, we will lose our constitutional right to be free.

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Dave, Madison, WI — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:12:59 GMT

Lee Holmes: you seem to engage in the same type of uncorroborated conspiracy thinking that led our illiterate president to wage an unprovoked war against a nation which never attacked us. Based on your theory, the fact that the 9/11 hijackers had a US visa indicates that the US supported their actions.

Kevin in Fort Worth, the Supreme Court and all US case law disagrees with you.

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John, Greenwood, IN — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:13:46 GMT

To Kevin, Fort Worth, TX
AMEN, BRO

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Susan, Saratoga Springs, NY — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:19:04 GMT

Oh, Rudy, this is a country of free speech, even though "W" and his "crew" have tried to squelch that right. Columbia's forum was presented with a very pointed discrediting from it's president, to which Ahmadinejad reacted with outrage. People in a free society are being presented with all points of view so they can make decisions based on knowledge and education. Iran's president does not acknowledge human rights, free press, freedom of speech, yet it's citizens appreciate Western civilization and culture. The invitation was made to expose to the students and faculty that stark differences and realities of the two countries.

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elsewhere — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:24:16 GMT

1. Ahmad is a foreign head of state. That means (listen up rednecks) that he has diplomatic immunity and can't be treated like a common person. This talk of 'arresting' just shows off how semi-educated many people here are.
2. What goes around comes around. The reason Iran is a theocracy is America's fault. After WW2 until 1954, the CIA ran their country. Then they democratically elected a leader and he started to take back control of Iran and its wealth. That didn't fit America/UK's agenda, so they staged a coup and had him overthrown and replaced him with a puppet who did what America said. This pissed the Iranians off enough that by 1973, guess what? Islamic revolution! Ever since then, that's the reason Iran has not trusted the U.S. I despise Islamic theocracy, but again...you reap what you sow America.
3. I've lived all over the world and without a doubt American media and politicians spout some of the most biased/spun propaganda I've ever heard.
4. Ahmad might be half-mad, but he's not carrying ebola, people. He'll be here today, gone tomorrow. So what. He's sure got a hell of a lot of balls to come here like this.
5. Two of my relatives died in the WTC and I don't feel particularly offended that he wanted to pay a visit there. I distinctly remember the Iranians were sympathetic towards us; it was the bastards in places like Saudi, Gaza, and the West Bank who were celebrating. Those are our real enemies, the Sunnis, the ones who spread hate against the entire Western world. Of course, America is blind, as always, and only seeks its own short term interests. Saudi is our best 'friend' in the Middle East. Unbelievable.
6. Who knows if Iranians are supplying rebels in Iraq with weapons? Then again, the U.S. *did* supply Iraq with weapons to invade Iran during the Iraq-Iran war, in which something like 1 million were killed. And then also sold drugs in Latin America to raise money to secretly supply weapons to the Iranians at the same time (the Contra scandal). Talk about double standards. And we call Ahmad evil! He's a total newb at the slimy-dirtbag game.

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Ralph ...Fl. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:24:59 GMT

Somebody screwed up bigtime. Inviting a man to say what he has to say and attack him before he saya it is dumb. We know Ahmedinejad is what he is. We knew what he was going to say. The president of Columbia got his strings pulled big time. The question is who is the bigger idiot. Better to have poured the visitor a cup of tea,and leting him talk. We all think the fool is an idiot; better to let him open his mouth and prove it by geting him on record and then allow the dumb press to eat his lunch for him.
But please don't get me started on the news media.

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Mike, Hermosa Beach, CA — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:33:41 GMT

A Giuliani presidency would see America made into the quintessential totalitarian state. His "outrage" is comical.

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Bob B.-Novato,CA — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:35:03 GMT

As I read the comments from the top down its obvious a few non producers decided to vent - as usual with the left wing logic of name calling and lack of answers

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DOF Goodrich, MI — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:35:31 GMT

Cheers to the President of Columbia! He asked hardball questions, and got this wacko to state that there are no Homosexuals in Iran, and downplayed the Holocost. It's obvious that he only asked the Iranian president to speak to expose him for what he is - a bigoted despot. I'm sure that Ahmedinjenad's comments that he is friends with Irael will make it to the Iranian press. Right...

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LA Chi,Il — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:39:45 GMT

Americans dont want to hear the truth, but isnt that whats important. I guess its just like bush said "you're either with us or against us." This makes Americans feel like if they dont support the war they are supporting terrorism. Its all mind games theyve been playing for far too long. This is why every country in the world thinks the American citizens are all ignorant, heres an idea, discover the real truth about whats going on in the world and then have a true opinion.

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oh, man! — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:41:15 GMT

Let's see Bush get before a crowd that wasn't pre-screened, let alone hostile. He doesn't have the nads, but he proved that in the 60's when all the red necks and uber patriots HATED draft dodgers. Now they think chicken hawks and ditto chumps are the only ones who can save them. It's really sad. ("Scouting for terrorist targets"! Save us, Geebus!)

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jan M. fort lee, NJ — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:44:26 GMT

Who ever permitted this idiot from Iran to speak at Columbia.....should be ashamed of them selves, this person was in pictures when they took our americans as hostages??.or did they miss this???.........what the hell were these Liberals thinking, its obvious none of thier family members are over there fighting for our american men and women ........and I see they have forgotten 9-11..........again they didnt lose anone in the horrific crime either !!...........shame!!!! on YOU All who permitted this.

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RJ — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:44:34 GMT

The ROTC and the Minutemen groups have been denied the opportunity to speak at columbia. Where is the "freedom of speech" for these groups?
Yet, they invite this nutcase from Iran to speak.

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Frank, Nebraska — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 22:49:52 GMT

Why all the hubub concerning Ahmedinejad? Why the distraction? It's the art of deception and we fall for it every time. I think the real story of the day is why the guy was in the country at all. He will be speaking in front of the U.N.- one of the most corrupt and worthless organizations in history (besides the U.S. congress)! Let's abolish the UN, close all the borders, bring the jobs back home, quit spending money in (and giving money to) nations that have oil (except our own). It's not Democrat or Republican - it's distraction! It's us against them (people vs. government) - they are stealing our future, and we're busy watching it on t.v.
WTFU.

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penei, American Samoa — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:00:39 GMT

Response to Nicholas,

You sound like you are afraid of smart women, downgrade H.R. Clinton campaign speeches as dividing this nation. It is the other way, haven't the citizens of this great nation and particular the republicans, realized that the current president is creating the division of the country, I need not to elaborate nor explain. Everyone know about the republicans scheme of campaigning, and their reasons of attacking H.R. Clinton and soft on Obama, poor guy. They (republicans) wish for the Democrats to support Obama, because the republicans knew Obama is black and some say he is a Muslim. The people of the United States will never support such a candidate, and the republicans felt that they can win with Obama as a democratic candidate. Wrong, Wrong. It is H.R. Clinton all the way. A man supporting a woman for President. Go Hilliary.

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Reggie laurino beacon,ny. — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:09:16 GMT

Rudy is a dictator or worse how quickly we forget how bad he was when serving as mayor. How about the supression of artistic exprission. Atempting to withold funds because he thought it was offensive to he;s religous beleifes. How he diveded a city how he violated civil rights and abused his athority.

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Jim, Santa Cruz — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:24:50 GMT

I remember in 1968 Eldridge Cleaver was invited to talk at Stanford University. Many said at the time why is the university giving this Black Panther revolutionary a forum to express his beliefs. It was a defining moment of that era and it was definitely educational. Back then freedom of speech was seen by even political conservatives to trump the suppression of violent, revolutionary thought. The most obvious advantage of listening to Ahmadinejad's rants on our terms and in our land is that we will know our enemy better, if indeed he is our enemy.

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Oren Childers Chandler texas — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:26:00 GMT

I believe it took alot of courage to come to our country to speak. Freedom of speech, I hope pretains to all human beings. Iran and Israel have been enemies since before Christ's time. Our country has grown fast and furiously forward due to open minded people from all over the world expressing their opinions, beliefs and ideas and standing strong for what they believe in.

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Doug, Mission Viejo, CA — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:35:00 GMT

Lee Holmes post:
Dude, you have way to much time on your hands.

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Dawn, Houston,Texas — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:38:18 GMT

I'm sorry, but where is the outrage from the feminist crowd (Susan in Miami, HP Boston, Carrie Iowa)? Where is the outrage from the pro-gay rights crowd? This man openly acknowledges that in his country gay people are not allowed/do not exist, and if someone is found to be gay, they are stoned to death. This is a country in which a woman's worth is 1/2 that of a man's worth, and many women are still openly stoned to death. Seriously, where is the outrage from those that protest about these issues in the US but have nothing to say when a murderous dictator wants to come on our soil and give a speech that he will later use for propaganda in his country? Don't give me the crap about "Oh Bush and Cheney, big bad dictators." The last time I checked, women and homosexuals had a hell of a lot more rights under this government than those living in Iran. You would rather ignore the actions of this horrible man just so you can find an opportunity to put down Guiliani. Your hatred and rage for the Republican party has blinded you to the reality of the world.

As far as the free speech argument goes...I find it incredibly hypocritical that many of you want to praise Columbia for giving this wacko a forum to speak, but they won't allow the founder of the Minutemen project to come speak. His last speech at Columbia was canceled after an emergency meeting with the students in which they determined that what he had to say was not welcome. If you are going to put on an air of being open to "free speech" but you stifle the comments of an American citizen and welcome the rhetoric from a murderous dictator that denies the holocaust, then you are worse than the "closed" minded individuals you often mock. Typical liberal mentality, you only want to hear the positions that are perfectly in line with your own.

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Bart Stone Las Vegas, NV — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:46:49 GMT

So, Redneck This differs from George Bush in the USA how????

"Take a good look at the Middle East. It is all about the haves and the have nots and the leaders of those countries are the haves who only talk the talk of caring about the have nots.
These people have nothing to lose and these dictators only fuel the fire of discontent under the facade of religion."

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Janelle Kennedy, Charleston, SC — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:50:28 GMT

It is totally outrageous that the U.S. would allow a hate-spewing filthy Muslim animal like Ahmadinejad into this country in the first place. If Osama bin Laden attempted to enter U.S. air space to speak at Columbia and lay a wreath at the 9-11 memorial you can rest assured his plane would be shot down before it landed. Ahmadinejad is an enemy who tried to invade the U.S., and The U.S. Air Force should have shot his plane down before he landed.

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b stone las vegas, nv — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:52:00 GMT

They say the terrorists hate us for our freedoms.

It seems the neo-con right wingers hate us for our freedoms, too

Hmmmmm.

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James Prince — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:53:12 GMT

Many won't be fooled again, just when and who fooled them. Ahmedinjenad and BinLaden have been perfecty clear wit there intentions, death to all non believers and Christians and Jews. Do you forget "death to America".
We need to bring the troops home and load our guns (those who have them) and wait for the attacks to come and the blood to flow. When the liberals realize these people are serious it will be to late for them but for those who know what is coming will be ready and fight for that freedom that so many have come to think that it is free. Much blod has been shed for that freedom and it will take much more to retain it.
Listening to Ahmedinjenad and Bin Laden is like listening to the Democrat talking points, the road to distruction....................

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Curly Morris, Charlotte, NC — Mon, 24 Sep 2007 23:59:17 GMT

I find myself having goosebumps while observing the President of Iran, of all nations, standing at a podium in a U.S. college speaking with so much truth, conviction and even more importantly a level of spiritual understanding that George Bush could never even dream about. For the past six years I have watched our moronic president do his best to justify and explain his ridiculous policies at home and abroad, never once uttering a single solitary phrase that could inspire our youth or our intellectual community. If you've never fully grasped the decadent black hole that Bush and his cronies have led us into the past couple of years, listen to the President of Iran offer a speech full of sensibility and rationale argument and slay the facade of a supposed pious and just George Bush in one fell swoop. Amazing.

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Jay Draiman, Northridge, CA — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:07:37 GMT

'OUTRAGE' OVER AHMADINEJAD
It is an outrage. He had admitted he wants to destroy other nations. He supports and finances terrorism. He threatens the US. Subsidizes the killing of American soldiers and citizens. Any body else trying to enter the USA with his credentials would be refused.
Under the UN umbrella, we must allow him access to the UN and that is it and no where else. When and where do we draw the line.
Are we as a nation that foolish?
His movements should be restricted only to the UN.
Anything else is Treason. Thirty years ago people would have been tried for treason. Those who permit these actions are just as responsible as the traitors who were prosecuted.

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George Proctor, Waxahachie, Texas — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:23:09 GMT

Free Speech??? Where were you spinless keyboard cowboys when one of the Minute Men TRIED to talk at Columbia but was shouted down by people with diverse attitudes???

Most of you are America hating jellyfish.

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Dan Los Angeles — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:32:00 GMT

Oh, stop! Most of us are more concerned with starting another "Bush Doctrine" propaganda-driven pre-emptive war, than we are with listening to our would-be enemy speaking at a university. Apparently Rudy is just as loath to learn anything as W is.

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Rhys Marion — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:35:33 GMT

What Columbia did was brilliant and took some guts. They faked Ahmedinjenad out.

They gave him an invitation to a "cool" party and with the intention of verbally spanking and humiliating him in front of the world.

And the President of Columbia did a great job. Thank You Columbia!

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John Seibel Morris Plains N.J. — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:37:39 GMT

To Kevin in Ft. Worth; Us liberals (as always) will know a great deal more about our enemies (both at home and abroad)by creating a dialogue.Wouldnt you be a surprised fellow to find out that your Conservative leaders have been UTTERLY lying to you for the entire duration of this foolish and unneccesary war? Now, if you were to figure that out would you be able to see the rationale for hosting this enemy of our Country? Just exactly what did you right wingers expect this man to do; carry Columbia back to Iran?

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LJ Ekiss — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:40:12 GMT

I have always preferred to vote for the person whom I felt was best qualified for the poition they were seeking in the Political world. While reading many articles about religion and the political offices, it appears that religion does play a large part. Granted we are not supposed to oppose ethnic, religion or anything that might prevent our elected officials from doing their sworn duty, it does appear that the favorite black person who is taking a large play in the forth coming election is of Muslim faith, and as such, is bound by those laws to observe and obey them, not give our American rights to worship as we choose. Should they bow down to the Islam prayers many times a day as is their custom? I feel that anyone of the Muslim faith, would be in conflict with our right to church law.

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Anthony Leslie Wrifford — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 00:50:28 GMT

Okay, Kevin in Ft. Worth....but why not let him speak? Is it not always better to listen and speak than not to do so? I am not a liberal or conservative, so please don't pin that on me. So he denies the holocaust, so what? I can deny that the moon is there and say so all day (yea, even at a university) but, truly, so what?
So he says he'd like to see Israel blown off the map, so what? Allot of people said that they'd like to see Iran blown off the map back in '79...some still do. Probably many citizens and government officials in Israel would like, again, so what?
I am no liberal in the weak soft-handed early 21st century manner, and I think "political correctness" smacks of fascism, but I do believe in allowing people to say what they will. When you do that, it becomes a war of words, surely better than a cold-war of economics or a shooting war....tw

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Benjamin Ossoff, Chapel Hill, NC — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:11:04 GMT

I think if Ahmadinejad is going scheduled to speak at Columbia he should be allowed to. The man may be a raving lunatic, but try and muzzle him and he'll make himself into some sort of martyr for free speech--or at the least he'll proclaim us hypocrites to the world. I think it would be better to let him speak and then have a rebuttal session (or sessions) to offer other opinions later rather than just try and shut him up.

Personally, I think it is quite insane how people make a big deal out of who can say what. We ought to remember that hearing is not believing. I certainly hope we haven't become such sheep that we'd believe anything we were told. And so what if he is a loony Holocaust denier? That just serves to take away from anything he says all the more.

Also, to those who blame all Iran for the madness that spews from Ahmadinejad's lips, I would remind them that Iran happens to have a fairly open society. There are radicals in the government and a dangerous conservative push, but many Iranians do not take the hard-line of their president. Even the Ayatollah reprimanded Ahmadinejad.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:24:38 GMT

Dawn - I'm not part of any "feminist crowd" but thanks for thinking of me.

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Walter Cremin, Kerrville, Texas — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:34:51 GMT

Freedom of Speech is an essential tool of American Society... So is Freedom of Choice... If you choose to defend a despot like the President of Iran that is your choice... I personally condemn him and his government. If for no other reason than what this government did in 1979... I am sure all you puppies weren't even born then, but It was a terrible time for All Americans...

People that yell for freedom of speech and those that oppose it by not letting Ahmadinejead (whatever) have his say live in tide pools... Your opinions on any given matter changes with the ebb and flow of the tide of politics...

Do not look at this issue as a Left or Right political statement or view... It is a matter of What is Right and What is Wrong...

Is it right to allow a foriegn head of state come to our country espousing peace and love while his minions smuggle arms into Iraq to kill American Soldiers? Or, is that wrong? Is it wrong that the religious leader of Iran warns that American Troops in Afganistan and Iraq are within range of thier weapons, at the same time that Iran's President is blowing kisses of peace here on our own soil? Or, is that right?

Is it right or wrong to defend this person that wishes to see Israel destroyed and all thier lands given to the palestinians? Is it right or wrong to defend a President that denies the Holocaust and mocks it as a myth? Is it right or wrong to defend a leader of many people that supports terrorism in Lebanon, Israel, Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Europe, and America,as well as the Philipines and Indonesia with money, training and spiritual support?

Answer these questions honestly and ask yourself one more question...

Am I Right or Wrong?

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Jonathan L Cogswell, Indianapolis, Indiana — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:53:59 GMT

If we do not destroy those that wish to destroy the West we will be nuked. Its not if its when. Since Bush has backed away from getting the job done and the American People have again buried thier heads in the sand, America will be destroyed along with my children. RIP America. We sure had a great civilization in its very short life.

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Dean Cooper — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:20:19 GMT

eviedence that iran aids al queda

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/01/iran_and_alqaeda_in.php

Get the real story people. This bold faced liar should not be allowed non US soil let alone to speak at a university, not that I call Columbia a university, it is really a socilaist liberal anit-ameircan breeding ground for leftist whackos!

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Angie, Cincinnati, OH — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:22:41 GMT

Why are all you Rudy haters even reading this anyway?? You don't agree, so who cares?! Go to moveon.org and blab there!!! I agree with Rudy, Ahmedinejad is a complete whackjob! He can go back to Iran where there are no homosexuals and the Jewish people arent't allowed to even exist.... yeah, he's innocent alright...

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Dean Cooper — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:22:56 GMT

evidence that iran aids al queda

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/01/iran_and_alqaeda_in.php

Get the real story people. This bold faced liar should not be allowed on US soil let alone to speak at a university. I was hoping the marines may have a scout sniper on site. oh well maybe next time...

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Paul jonhndreau — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:33:56 GMT

I think you people that are not satisfied withour President with our politicial system in the U.S should move to Iran you can express your hateful veiws there ........ At least once

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Paul jonhndreau — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:33:58 GMT

I think you people that are not satisfied withour President with our politicial system in the U.S should move to Iran you can express your hateful veiws there ........ At least once

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Glenn Portales, NM — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:34:18 GMT

What is the problem? I see nothing wrong with letting the man have his say. I do not like the man nor agree with him. Is there something you people (mostly Republicans) are afraid of? Or is it you like to perpetuate hate and fear mongering?

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a. smith, richmond, virginia — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:37:19 GMT

M. Boley, Pat, Nicholas and several of the rest of you.
When does your personal dislike for the GOP give way for the respect and support for your country? Is everything political? This guy is a maniac and you are showing your immaturity by bashing a political party. Learn a lesson from British history just before WWII. You guys are acting like children playing a game.

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mark cheyenne wyo — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:54:23 GMT

Why was he not arrested by our Homeland Security Team? That among other programs, that are not included in our military spending would bring it to 1 tillion per year. Wow.. with that kind of money why was he not arrested and sent to Gitmo or the like? They could pay me a million to rat him out, just like Iraqi Mullahs were paid to do the same.

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Steve Johnson, Glendale, CA — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:01:07 GMT

How many of you that support the constitutional right of free speach also support the constitutional right of the people to own guns? You cannot pick and choose the rights you want.

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SAR member — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:55:31 GMT

"The outright distain that many of you use against the President of the U.S. no matter who it is, is a sign of your lack of Patriotism. " It's the highest form of patriotism to oppose a power-mad, lunatic drunk attempting to bring on Armaggedon.

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eric, atlanta, ga — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:03:28 GMT

And Iran Iran so far away. Maybe The Flock of Seagulls had it right. I spent the first "Gulf War" on a Destroyer in the Persian Gulf serving this country to the best of my abilities with great success but Man I feel so bad for the young people who are sent there today! I was at the wedding of a young Army Captain this past weekend, I saw his fears and those of his bride in their expressions as they had their wedding pictures made, it broke my heart. This Groom is going BACK to that place in six weeks and will likely pay a very high price for YOUR ideals, OIL, and freedom. Screw the politicians but have some empathy for the people who have no better choice than to do the impossible deed.

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Jim Holton Trenton Illinois — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:25:29 GMT

OK, I am ready for all of the"republican" (Fox news) pundits to spin the Columbia visit. All I heaqrd for the last two weeks from these guys, was how Columbia was pandering th Iran. I for one am more proud to be an american than at any time when Bush was exploiting 9/11. God bless the students at Columbia, they REALLY show what is America.

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nuanced — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:28:05 GMT

Why do Republicans hate what America stands for?

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Jim Holton Trenton Illinois — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 04:34:00 GMT

OK, I am ready for all of the"republican" (Fox news) pundits to spin the Columbia visit. All I heard for the last two weeks from these guys, was how Columbia was pandering to Iran. I for one am more proud to be an american than at any time when Bush was exploiting 9/11. God bless the students at Columbia, they REALLY show what is America.

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chris kansas city, ks — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:45:26 GMT

Rudy's a charming, proud, munkey puppet for the American terrorist regime.
YEAH... a few hundred tons of disintegrated asbestos is fine to breathe? How stupid can a MAN be?

You'd make a good dinner guest Rudy with your schmooze and smiles. You could probably even sell a few cars. But you need to keep your $leazy $elf and your weak character out of politics. We're sick of people like you destroying the country.
Why don't you take all your other friend$ and candidate$, except Ron Paul, and all of the Bush's and go skip rocks or go fishing. Go kick some cans or something. Just go do something that doesn't require strength of character - something you munkey$ have NONE of.

Just go home. Go find a new one. Go spend your precious moneys.
Go away.

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Steve Johnson, Glendale, CA — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 06:25:27 GMT

How many of you that support the constitutional right of free speach also support the constitutional right of the people to own guns? You cannot pick and choose the rights you want.

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NJones — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:03:21 GMT

Amazing that the word "greaseball" is deemed acceptable language in the forum.

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Edward, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:32:31 GMT

When are the majority of you going to wake up and realize that we are dealing with absolute fanatics who want nothing more than to kill Americans - Do you think this started with George Bush?? Check your history - This hate goes back much further than his presidency. Freedom of speech is one of the most amazing things about our country, yet it is so contaminated and double-sided. To trash our President is the modern edge thing to do, yet if any one of you dared to say things along the lines of the insane Iranian President, i.e. The Holocaust is a myth and homosexuals do not exist in other parts of the world like they do in America, I have a pretty good feeling that your support for Freedom of Speech would diminish oh so quickly...

It's your right to hate the government - to be ashamed of some of our country's actions, but my goodness, have some American pride.

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Wyndi, Wilmington, NC — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:17:05 GMT

I think everyone would agree that it is difficult, if not impossible, to have a fair and open debate without listening to the other side. However, if one were to follow the lead of the current administration and other higher profile politicians (particularly Republicans), it seems the way to have a discourse with someone of different opinions and beliefs means that you stick you're fingers in your ears and scream "na na na na na, I'm not listening to you!"

It's ludicrous, plain and simple. Most often the truth and more often the solution to a situation lies in the middle of two opposing points of view. Just because you listen to what someone has to say, it doesn't mean you have to agree with any or all of what comes out of their mouth. But you can't fully investigate the options for compromise without affording the opposition the opportunity to present their argument.

Having said that, while everyone is getting up in arms about the Constitutional right of free speech and who is afforded that right, etc., etc., it would be wise to remember that we, as U.S. citizens, are living under a regime that has systematically eroded our Constitutional rights at every turn. The Patriot Act is perhaps the least patriotic thing to have passed the Congress since its inception.

Furthermore, our current President of the United States, the man who swore, with his hand upon a BIBLE, to "faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States." This very man referred to our Constitution as "just a G**damned piece of paper." That, and that alone, should make every American stop and give pause and really think about what we want our future leadership to be.

In my opinion, there needs to be change and that can't happen if another fear mongering, 9/11 thumping, close minded individual is elected.

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U.S. Veteran, San Antonio, TX — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 09:27:25 GMT

Last time I checked the history books, Hitler was not allowed to speak at Columbia while he was ramping up his war machine. Although I am sure he would have had filled the air with the same types of creamy smoothness to cover the festering abscesses of "jihad" that President (what a joke) M. A. used yesterday.

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Lynn, Manchester, NH — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:21:16 GMT

I watched the interview yesterday and got the impression he came here to be able to say his side without being twisted by certain media. I was just happy to have the right to hear him for myself with out the usual, quick clip and then reporter telling me what was said. Free speech!! Thank you MSNBC for letting me make up my own mind and listen to the entire interview. I think there is far too much hatred in the world, and at some point, someone has to approach it differently.

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Adam Banks, Greenville SC — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:33:41 GMT

Personally I feel Rudy's behavior was not only childish but he clearly demonstrated to America how unprofessional he will be in abusing a presidency seat
if "appointed".Our gov.accused Ahmedinejad of many evil things, but were we ever shown proof? Yet we clearly see the evil deeds the Bush regime has carried out against America and international world.Bush called YOUR constitution a g-d piece of paper! suspended habeas-corpus to use force against YOU! Allows millions of illegals to cross our borders!Has continually stripped YOU of freedoms and liberties!
Committed illegal phone,email and bank tapping(against Americans). killed millions (of innocent)in an illegal, unconstitutional, aggressive war! etc!!! Why was it YOU hated Ahmedinejad again?
YOU better stop worrying about Israel's rights and develop some testicular fortitude about YOUR own!!!

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Adam Banks, Greenville SC — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:56:23 GMT

Personally I think this is an orchestration of propaganda by the Bushies to encourage Americans to be brainwashed into hatred towards the next victims his thugs plan to carry out a violent war against! Maybe people should start taking a closer look at what American Political figure-heads are doing to US before they "allow" themselves to be coerced into a mental "mob-like" state of mind towards other leaders!.See, if they can convince YOU that Iran is a terrorist rogue country,(that supplies weapons that kill American soldiers) then YOU will applaud them when they NUKE these innocent people of Iran...WAKE-UP AMERICA!!! Didn't YOU learn anything from 9/11?
While we're looking at corruption, let's not forget to
take a close peek at "country Israel", NOT Biblical
Israel,(two different things folks!). Israelis are torturing the innocent Palestinians sadistically! Where is your voices for justice there???

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Kollathodi M., Kerala, India — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:04:04 GMT

Any independent observer of Ahmedinejad's speech would agree that the president of columbia made himself look silly and uncultured when compared to Nejad. Not only in Iran, in India, we won't do this. It is not our culture to invite someone and insult him. The US version of democracy, freedom of speech et .. etc... is clearly farce. The present day world events are enough proof.

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mike porretta niantic connecticut — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:11:11 GMT

its a matter of this man from iran is a murderer if you like him so much you big mouths go live in iran and see how it is

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Suzy minneapolis mn — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:54:34 GMT

So many who see people as bad or good. Ahmedinejad has his own problems and is actually pretty smart if you read the actual ACCURATE translations of his speeches. I'm not defending him, but he is not hopeless like Saddam was. And his words have been twisted regularly in the media, as he says.
What IS sad is how ignorant and un-curious most Americans are. Who on this list has read Ahmedinejad's speeches, or do you just take at face value whatever the media tells you? He never said the things they tell you he's said.
Wake up. The saber's are rattling.

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Bill M, Anytown USA — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 11:57:17 GMT

First, I think that 'introduction' by the Columbia president was very rude and uncalled for. That was showmanship, not detente.

I'm glad Ahmadinejad was invited to speak - and glad he accepted. But to have the man come there and be verbally assaulted at the get-go. Man, thats disgusting. We Yanks have a hard enough time dispelling our attack-dog image and here's the president of a major university reinforcing that image yet again for the entire world. How will this affect future world leaders who are invited to speak publicly in the US?

I'm not saying give the guy a big hug but at least offer civil courtesy to the man.

He knew he was in for some hard questioning and that was part of the deal. I think he fielded the questions quite well. I'm not convinced of his sincerity but I must say that my own opinion of him has changed. He seems a much more cogent thinker than I had expected. That is refreshing from his part of the world rather than invoking litanies of "Allah says this or that".

Unfortunately the situation is his country doesn't seem to reflect what he says. Maybe he is as clueless as our own politicians? Or what if we are being totally misdirected by our western media about how bad Iran really is on the inside? I'm not really sure. We've been burnt once....badly.

I think we botched up an opportunity here to open a door for discussion which is something very lacking in the Middle East vs West debate. We MUST engage in dialogue with our enemies at some point and put the attack mode on hold while doing so.

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Carl, Gansevoort,NY — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:27:35 GMT

Ann, Rudy is an idiot, as are most of you screaming to have that rodent from Iran denied entry. We have the UN building in NYC. The result is once a year every moron running a member country is entitled to speak(as has our fearful leader on a couple of occasions). So until there is another headquarters for the UN we have no choice in the matter.
Now as for him speaking at Columbia, good for Columbia that it hasn't succumbbed to the anti-intellectual bent of our administration.

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arthur southbury ct — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:35:34 GMT

Don't get too excited over this string of anti-Rudy comments by these hate America first bloggers...after all...this is MSNBC you're on.

Giuliani 'outrage' over Ahmadinejad

Lisa Murrell — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:55:18 GMT

Regardless of which political or personal stance you take on this, and regardless of whether he should have been invited or not, the fact is the Iranian president was invited to speak at Columbia and then insulted on national and international television by prominent Americans such as Rudy Gulliani. And in the face of these insults the Iranian president was polite and civil. The Iranian government now has even more grounds to decry the US as barbaric and inhospitable.

As much as we would like to believe so, the US does not exist in a vacuum. It cannot just fight the whole world and win, regardless of what it believes about its own military might. Just the fight in Iraq and the strain it has put on the resources of this country should cause all Americans - republican, democrat independent, even 'never-voted-in-my-life' - to wake up and realize that we do not have infinite power. We do need the support of other nations. As such, we need to put aside the issues of liberal vs conservative and take responsibility for our actions as a nation. So please understand that to unnecessarily insult the Iranian president on national and international television after he was invited to the US and to Columbia to speak, regardless of personal views on him is to offend not just an entire country but an entire region and religion.

Think of the impact it would have on the collective psyche of America if the US president were blatantly and publicly insulted by a foreign nation after being invited there. Regardless of the personal feeling about him here at home, even Americans who disagree with the president's policies, in fact even Americans who consider the president a down right idiot, would feel that the entire country had been insulted. It would serve to unite this country as nothing else would. People around the world are no different. Even the Muslims who disagree with the tactics of the Iranian president have been insulted by this.

The US really needs to stop and think about the international impact of its actions. After 9/11 - the US had the opportunity to literally rule the world. (for those of you who think the US rules the world right now - it really doesn't!)The majority of nations, including the Muslim nations were outraged by the tragedy and were ready to stand and support the US. Rather than harnessing the tremendous resource it was offered, the US has, since that time, chosen to take the them-vs-us route. To insult and bully its way into a position of infamy in the world and the reason that people are worried now about protecting our borders from 'the enemy' is because the US took the actions of a few madmen as cause to alienate everyone who is not American. Collectively demonizing a group of people has never worked. It didn't work for Hitler with the Jews, it didn't work for the extremists who committed 9/11 against America, it didn't work in Rwanda. Why would it work now, especially when this nation is demonizing not a country or an ethnic group or even a religious group but everyone in the world who is not American.

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TRP Seattle, WA — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 12:58:42 GMT

I must say that it's painful to read the comments of so many anti-American liberals who seem to believe that 9/11 never happened or it's time to forget(remember the slogan "We Will Never Forget". Well unfortunately like the holocaust it did happen and consequences must be paid and if a few brutal dictators must fall with those consequences then even better. There is nothing to back up the Iranian President of being anything but a cruel dictator and a man with a dream of genocide yet all you hear is that the global march to freedom led by President Bush is the wrong war wrong time. Please Dems, go pull those ridiculous anti-American stickers off the paint of your car and start reading some history books instead of getting your facts from the front page of the NY Times. And for those of you idiots who believe that bringing up recent horrific events are "scare tactics" please realize that these are FACTS!!!! If these facts happen to scare you then you better vote RED in '08.

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Alf K, Bogota Colombia — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:05:37 GMT

Who's next, Hitler, Stalin, Fidel? This cruel petty dictator with fuel dollars is an islamic radical that would enjoy watching 9/11 type attacks on the US and Israel every day of the year. Freedom loving people means nothing to him or his kind!

Ladies, try going to Iran and driving a car or walking ahead of your male escort, and you better be covered from head to toe. LOL Death by stoning is still the favorite pastime.

And, you better not dare to question the Imams :-(

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Jambalaya — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:07:47 GMT

Rudy has point with cellphone.

Giuliani 'outrage' over Ahmadinejad

VotingGiuliani, Rome, Italy — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:14:11 GMT

Kudos to Lets Think! As an American living abroad, I have come to really understand those liberties and civil liberties that the left is so quick to say we are being denied under the current administration. I'd love to see these liberals (particularly the hollywood set) spend a day living as a citizen in a country in Iran. Then come home and see how much they go on complaining...well said "Lets Think"

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bob martins, pompton lakes — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:38:01 GMT

Most of you people get your news from the establishment newspapers and tv news. All of these accusations about Iran supporting terrorists have never been backed up with proof. The only reason Bush calls them terrorists is because he wants their oil and he is not a puppet of the Americans. Hey Rudy, I like your new hairdo.

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wesner, Miami Beach, fl — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:51:12 GMT

Obama got my vote...

Enough is enough!! If the world had engage itself to more dialogues among foes and friends, this world could have been a better place for everyone. On the other hand anyone who is against any dialogue with someone that they don't like is a fool because of fear thinking that its going to make you less of a person "Aucontraire mon frere" is quite the oposite.

Bottom line is, we have to learn on how to respect first ourself, then other people and their ideas, and beliefs. Then and only then, we will find a common groung to better understand one another. Its a small world people, we're going to have to learn one-way another on how to better understand one another.

If my statement make sense, please!! let us vote for a new change and for hope in our goverment. Let us put aside our ignorance and let us bring unity in 08 elction.

Make the right choice and that is Obama!!

Thank you all!!

Giuliani 'outrage' over Ahmadinejad

StillVotingRudy Rome, Italy — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:51:24 GMT

I'm frankly quite tired of hearing all the liberal cries of our "totalitarian" state, or that Giuliani would be a dictator. These nutjobs clearly have no idea what they are talking about. The fact is that the American political spectrum from the far right to the far left is no where near as extreme as can be seen in most other countries. So stop your complaining- American will never experience a real dicator because we are privilaged enough to live in a country where we're protected under a strong democratic process.
Then, all this outrage because someone we all knew to be plain crazy made some crazy comments? Were you expecting less?

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JT FDL, Wi. — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:51:37 GMT

I say Wes Galt of CA says it all. We need to listen to everyones views in order to form relationships with these other countries. We don't have to be friends but we need to openminded.

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Brad Brown, Westminster, Maryland — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:03:18 GMT

I do not understand what the hype about the Iranian President visit. Iran has been painted the same way that our own President has been painted. When will the American people stand outside the United Nations building and protest Bush's visit to address the UN?

In my personal opinion, I believe that the entire Republican party needs to calm down and actually sit and think about what they wish to tell the public. Now, please acknowledge my emphasis on the word "think". This party is known for it's knee-jerk reactions to anything that they feel is not valid.

My mother, stepfather and oldest brother react this same way. I remember on Thanksgiving day , a few years back, flew into Iraq to see the soldiers that were overseas fighting. No one knew about his visit until he came out from behind a curtain in the mess hall and served Thanksgiving dinner. That image will always be burnt into my head. What a coward.

The Iranian President was publically invited to Columbia University and accepted the invitation. He requested to lay a wreath at Ground Zero and was denied the ability to do so. Protesters stood outside the university and the United Nations. Bush avoids any venue that will have protests right up front where cameras can see the difference of opinion. This is called dictatorship. This MUST stop now or the American people will slowly have their Constitutional Rights stripped off one by one, until we are under the rule of a dictator.

Has President Bush ever gone into a country where he was labeled as part of an axis of evil? No, he hasn't. George W. Bush is a coward and will continue to be until January 20, 2009. I believe that the next President elected should pass a non-binding resolution to condemn George W. Bush for all that he has done and not done in his 8 years in office.

Giuliani 'outrage' over Ahmadinejad

Pete A — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:04:16 GMT

Rudy Gulliani is a Fascist who will have his way no matter how costly it is to others. His support for the 50 bullets that his NYPD gestapo pumped into an innocent black African called Amadu Diallo still reminds me of Hitler's Gestapo and how the Haulocost was executed.

Giuliani 'outrage' over Ahmadinejad

Othey Lunn, Bergenfiel,NJ — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:11:00 GMT

I am confused about free speech in this country. Columbia Univ. suppose to be more freer than what this country has become under this admin. We may as well call our selves USIsrael.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:22:48 GMT

Bill M - I completely agree with you. If they didn't want to hear what he had to say, if they revile him so much, then they should not have invited him to their campus. But they did invite him, and as such they had an obligation to treat him with the same courtesy with which their other guests are treated.

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Lisa - Fort Worth TX — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:23:06 GMT

Lisa Murrell, great post. I find it sad that the U.S. used to be admired and respected, but now we are looked at as the bully on the block. The world is not ours alone! I hope our next president has the intelligence and maturity to realize that in order for us to lead we must lead by example. The example being set currently is not one many countries are likely to follow.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:26:46 GMT

Um...Mark or whomever is supposed to be moderating this: What is your definitinon of appropriate language? Most people don't consider the f word and "faggots" as being appropriate. Apparently, judging from king in new york's comment, you disagree. Another reason why people are fleeing First Read...

Giuliani 'outrage' over Ahmadinejad

arnold salinas — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:33:25 GMT

Why is this BS x-Mayor,LoverBoy Giuliana getting all hissy about. He is overrated Media puppet control like all the elected cockroaches that are giving this country away. Got a question for yo MR Giuliani and the rest of the cockroaches: Why are you all not outrage at the plan for this country to become a partner in the North American Union. Why are you an the other cockroaches allowing the "Super HighWay" or the I-35 corridor which will allow Mexican truckers carrying God only knows what from the ports in Mexicao right smack the the middle of Texas, straight up stright to the Canadian border unchecked? This will make our ports in the Eastern and Western shore useless. Out Longshoremen and American truckers will be lossing their job. This is what you sould be outrage about? Stop using 9-11 as your platform. You are fake and a HIPO. I'm sadden for all our young Americans fighting and dying for OIL that the oil companies and other greedy politicians-yes the Bushes,Chenney and others included. Outrage?? You are part of the Outrage in this country!!

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Mark Murray — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 14:41:44 GMT

Carrie, thanks for the heads up. We deleted that post. Occassionally, even though we try our best, posts like that get through, so we appreciate the feedback.

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S, Davenport, Iowa — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 15:41:33 GMT

Ahmadinejad has brass cajones. Columbia University's president-- none at all. Who invites a guest to their turf, their inner sanctum where they are surrounded by like minded friends,to berate, ridicule, insult and televise the event for the entire world to see? Cowardly schoolyard bullies. This disgusting behavior by some of our most "educated" was followed by inflamatory, unsubstantiated remarks by an individual who would like to be our next president, followed by those who think freedom of speech applies only to Americans. These groups of people are joined by those who think it's okay to snatch people off the street and throw them in secret prisons without ever having due process because-- they are not Americans. And there are those who think it's okay to torture (we call it something else)those same people to protect our freedom from those we suspect would like to take it away-- wait a minute-- how does that work?.

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adge — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:21:01 GMT

Any of you Rudy haters RED BLOODED AMERICANS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bush killing troops, give it up you liberal idiots....terrorists started that war!!!!!! I suppose Bush is responsible for that cold i have now too, right....morons!

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THOMAS MCCUE, FRESH MEADOWS, NY — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 16:58:14 GMT

I AM A NYC DEMOCRAT WHO WILL VOTE FOR NO DEMOCRAT EXCEPT JOE BIDEN. THE BEST COMMENT ON THIS IRANIAN CRIMINAL WAS MADE BY MITT ROMNEY. HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED THE SECOND HE STEPPED ON OUR SOIL. HE IS ONE OF THE TERRORISTS LEADERS WHO TOOK OUR HOSTAGES IN 1979! IF YOU ARE SUCH DEMOCRATS THAT YOU STILL ARE ANGRY THAT REAGAN DEFEATED CARTER IN 1980, THE MAN TO BLAME IS THIS "SO-CALLED" IRANIAN PRESIDENT MONKEY-BOY WHOSE NAME I REFUSE TO REMEMBER OR LEARN HOW TO PRONOUNCE.

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Poor, PO'd neocons — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 18:17:43 GMT

"its a matter of this man from iran is a murderer if you like him so much you big mouths go live in iran and see how it is "

Some of you right wingnuts are stupid beyond all comprehension. We believe in FREE Speech, and so would you if you weren't a BushCo brown shirt. The man was INVITED to speak, and I agree with other posters who think the President of the University made an enourmous ass of himself to denigrate and insult the man before he even said anything. I've seen better manners in a barnyard. Besides that, SEND me to Iran, you gas bag.

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Lee Holmes — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:27:22 GMT

Dave: If it is ''uncooberated''then you will have no problem factually determining this. As it is,I have bothered to track the extact findings of the 9/11 Commission which acted upon ''cooberated''evidence and demanded that the government get further involved in. We should observe here that this evidence has never been contested by an inter-governmental agency such as the debate over whether or not Iraq had WMD which revealed doubts in both the CIA and State Dept. Rather,all are allied in their findings that Iran played a role with al Qaeda prior to and after the 9/11 attacks. The 9/11 Commission agrees with this assessment. Then too,the presence of nuclear centerfuges in Iran is beyond dispute,and vests itself in the evidence gleaned by the IAEA,as well as the boasts of AQ Khan himself,and those of the top military members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards from which Ahmadinjenad sprang.

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Ann Dugal,Tecumseh, Ontario , Canada — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:54:33 GMT

As a Canadian,who loves the USA,I'm scared and shocked at you people who give an ounce of respectability to terrorist leaders like Ahmedinajed.
And you give no respect to Mr Bush, your Pres.. who stands up against evil.Thank God for people like George Bush and Stephen Harper, our Canadian Prime Minister, who is keeping Can. troops in Afghanistan to fight the evil of terroism.. Your Pres. is Not evil..
he is doing the right thing for you and God Bless him. I, as a Canadian respect and love him for that..
God bless the USA and Canada. My dad fought in the 2nd WW and I love him for doing the right thing.. standing up to evil.

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BETT JEAN TACOMA WA — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 00:00:46 GMT

i AM OUTRAGED AND CANNOT BELIEVE THE DRIVEL THAT COMES FROM THE MOUTH OF SO CALLED AMERICAN PATRIOTS...RUDY G. IS NOT MY CHOICE BUT NEITHER IS OBAMA BECAUSE HE IS BLACK NOR HILARY BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMEN. IRAN IS A DANGER TO US ALL WAKE UP YOU FOOISH PEOPLE

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Winston De'courcey — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 02:25:02 GMT

This is funny, we have a president, and vice president who lied to an entire nation to go to war. We kill tens of thousands of Iraqis along with the lives of our own soldiers, and we have the gall to accused the president of Iran as being a terrorist. What do you call what's happening in Iraq, ooh, Democracy, sorry folks, its murder at the highest level and we have all these so call liberaters telling us what a great job we are doing.
Has any one ever see the president of Iran with a gun in his hands, what blood are we speaking about? how could a nation that speak so much about freedom of speech could try to stiffle others from doing just that. Let us get back to basic, and do what we were once known for, helping the improvished, respecting other countries for what there are, and trying to bring stability in the war torn countries like Rwanda and Sudam.
Winnie, MD

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Andy — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:21:18 GMT

Hey Rudy..Did you remind these people here that you are one of Hugo Chavez's lawyers and you reap big bucks..or is it just your leagal team that gets paid by chavez and not you! Que verguenza!!

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Arnold Armani Hernandezy y Aguilera — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:06:55 GMT

I'm glad people are awake to the whole truth now, and it's sad how their is still a lack of a godly respected constitution amongst mankind, instead of the proliferating war tactics and politics to maintain police establishments for corrupt business practices to go on.

the mafia era is over, let the real Men stand up.

Congrats people, you are walking with God.

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D B, London, England (born and raised in california) — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 10:05:20 GMT

Check your facts people. And then check your heads. How many of you have heard of "innocent until proven guilty"? Don't you think you are jumping to conclusions about Ahmadinejad, Iranian foreign policy, and terrorism in Iran? Do you really know the facts, and what is your source? You know, it has always scared me how some people can defend an idea with all of their emotions before they have really thought it through and carefully considered all of the known facts and evidence (read multiple sources of news of different biases, salon.com is great, so is the BBC, otherwise stay away from network tv news) - these are the same types of people who have hindered progression of our civilizations throughout history. The ones that killed Copernicus for stating the Earth was round, or even the ones that lynched African-Americans during the civil rights movement. But I refuse to believe that you people drew the genetic short straw and actually DO retain the capacity for rational human thought. So think about it? What cold, hard evidence do you really have on this guy Ahmedinejad whom you are so harshly judging? Are you calling what you hear on American televised newscasts evidence? - newsflash: that is about the most distorted form of evidence you can get. All you get from the news on tv is the opinion of the network's shareholders. You know what their opinion is? Whatever is going to get their station the highest ratings, then their viewers will stay on their channel and see the commercials which is what draws the big bucks in. We also have an executive government that uses the American public in a similar manner. Georgie and Dickie want another war. How can they sell it to the American public? How can they get it the highest ratings? Oh yeah, let's give them some "evidence" (ie. Iranian government is supplying Iraqi insurgents with arms). And the American public fall for it everytime. Hook, line and sinker.

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Lenny — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:09:58 GMT

I am from Canada and I have to say I am impressed with the comments here. You don't show blind faith to Giuliani over Ahmedinejad. You weigh both their thoughts and give them their due, whether good or bad. I do feel we have to put oursleves in the shoes of Ahmedinejad. He is watching his neighboring state being taken over, but a country they are unsure of. How would America feel if Canada were being taken over by Russia. America would feel uneasy about that. All I can say is keep on following politics and put the facts and justice ahead of blind nationalism. But I will nod my cap to Columbia and the US for giving Ahmedinejad a chance to speak.

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Dave, North Carolina — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:31:02 GMT

Thank You Mr. Gulliani. Unlike most on this board you are trying to defend the USA not destroy it at every turn. Glad we didn't have these US citizens during WWII we never would have prevailed. GB the USA!

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Philip F. Gallagher,Rio de Janeiro, Brazil — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:34:22 GMT

Although I am an American but living outside the USA for the past 45 years, I agreed with the Iranian President on many points and especially on the moral decay that my country represents in such instances of promoting Gay rights, the murder of innocent children in the womb of their mothers, the sickening pornography that permeaates all levels of American life, the outright debasing of the woman in the name of Democracy, the evident protection of Armament manufacturers who use their newest weapons to test on innocent people, the biased protection of the State of Israel while killing Palestinias who only want thier rights and so many other instances of hipocracy that shame the USA´s reputation that is being destroyed by politicians on both sides who only care for the power that comes from political office etc. Yes, I am an American that is ashamed of my country although I am sure of the basic good of the majority of US citizens. May God bless us with more love and more intelligence.

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Winston Decourcey — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:31:58 GMT

People, let me pass this by you, the freedom we speak of in a America is for a elite class. Look at Katrina, and the Jena Six, this is a great example of how our system works within the frame work of the Constitution. We are very good at condemming others when it don't fit our way of doing things. But never once do we take a stance and condemmed the wicked things we are doing.
We build up Iraq to defeat Iran, then we kill Saddam, we give Afghanistan all the support they need to defeat the Russians and in the mean time create Bin Laden, now we are chasing him (are we)all over the hills of Pakistan to kill him. America is the down fall of America, we do all the wrong things and call them making sacrifices.

Finally, we are very good at holding embargos against countries that we deem as our enemies. what do we expect if you with hold food and medicine from poor nation? what would you do in an event of this nature. The Irish flee Ireland because a of Potato famine, we fled one part of the country for another part during the great depression all because of luck of basic food and medicine. And what we asked of these countries that we are so happy suffercating, do as I asked or die. The true democracy of the world, just to name a few, Iraq, Iran, Cuba and the list could go on and on. We are asking these countries to turn to an alternative to survived.
Amen,
Winnie

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Winston Decourcey — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:32:01 GMT

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Nasir, Ashburn Virginia — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:23:29 GMT

Why doesn't anyone rebutal any of Ahmedinejad's statements. Instead everyone hearls insults.

Let's talk about Zionist occupation and the endless UN resolutions against Israel that have been ignored.

Let's talk about Iran's right under the nuclear NFT that gives them the right to produce nuclear energy. Then couple that with the IAEA's clean bill of health.

Lets talk about the elected government of Hamas and how the US is undermining its stability.

Let's talk about cluster bombs and why Zionist were bombing targets north of the Litani River when Hezbollah rockets were all installed south of the Litani River.

Let's talk about why the US is still in Iraq while Sadaam and WMD's are long gone.

Let's talk about how all the oil reserves in the ME are under Shia populated areas and (Iran/Iraq/E.Saudi) how it would make more sense to befriend Iran and the Shia and not the Wahabi Kingdoms.

Let's talk about democracy and how the US supports Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and other non-democratic gulf states and spreads deceit against the democratic Iran. (Even Jews have an elected MP)

Let's talk about how Iran helped the US deal with the Taliban and the next day were labelled within the 'Axis of Evil'

Let's talk about how Joe Leiberman is an Israeli citizen and Israeli interests is his sole interest in the Senate.

Let's talk about how Hilary supports troops in Iraq and voted for the anti-Iran resolution and how Zionist interests top her list as well. No different than the Bush administratin sister........

"Seek knowledge from the cradle to the grave"

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John Boone, Berkeley, Ca — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 20:04:18 GMT

Amazing, first Afghanistan and Bin Laden, then Iraq and Saddam and now Iran and this new guy? Who is the real enemy, who are we supposedly fighting and why does it seem that no one else is bothered that the "enemy" changes as often as the wind blows? I wonder how many people have actually read something about Iran or Iraq or Afghanistan other than what they've seen on the U.S. News? I'm wondering how so many of the condeming views of President of Iran have been formed, when it seems that so many Americans don't read anything of substance?

C'mon people?! Didn't anybody read (or at least watch the movie) "1984"?

Are we really that studid and easy to influence?