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Vikram, Ellicott City, MD — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:12:30 GMT

I think Tim Russert is trying too hard to put Hillary on the spot and is failing somewhat. I am absolutely amazed at the response to the trick terrorism question that Tim raised and then tried to stump Hillary by saying the quote was that of Bill Clinton. She had the best one liner of the debate with her answer. She is the best qualified of the lot - hands down! It almost seems like she is getting tag teamed by Edwards and the rest on the one hand and Tim Russert on the other.

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Mark West. Raleigh, N.C. — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:12:44 GMT

Got to love that Hillary. hillaryclinton.com

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LonewackoDotCom, L.A. CA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:17:31 GMT

Chuck:

How many times can BR give the same speech on immigration and the moderators will pretend that's the first time they've heard it?

Don't "journalists" like yourself have a responsibility to call people like BR on their misleading statements?

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diane — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:17:47 GMT

Obama did go after clinton but, no follow up. I heard he was sick with a bad cold and still did better than Ms. duck the questions did.

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Nicholas, Minneaps, MN — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:18:06 GMT

It is a complete cop out for NBC political director Chuck Todd and the rest of the MSM to declare Hillary the winner because she is still leading the polls after the debate. Based on this criteria, H.R. Clinton cannot lose, because she ducks the questions and plays it safe. You are letting her get off easy, not that you should be doing B. Obama's job. What are you being paid to do? I ask, who--if they were tied going in--would come out the winner, and who answered the questions the best.

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Robyn, Las Vegas, Nevada — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:19:20 GMT

Not one mention of Kucinich?
What are you afraid of?
Not for profit healthcare?
Peace?
Integrity?

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Student Voter, Tampa FL — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:30:24 GMT

I am very tired of politicians refusing to answer the “hypothetical” questions; of course as a citizen I have the RIGHT to know what my would-be-President might do in any manner of theoretical situations. What would you do if confronted with a recession? What would you do if there is another attack? What would you do if there is another catastrophic natural disaster? Are all of these questions beyond your ability to imagine or are they just too difficult?

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Chuck Malone — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:30:29 GMT

Edwards has really stepped up over the last two months. You are right, he realizes that he has to accentuate the differences between him and the other Democrats. There is no doubt that he is a juxtoposition to all the Republicans, that's why poll after poll show him beating every Republican in the field. He can't face them without the nomination; so I foresee greater transparency which will highlight how he has evolved into a presidential candidate totally different from any we have seen in at least 30 years ... maybe 50.

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Samantha Caldwell, Andrews, N.C. — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:30:58 GMT

Just another night on the campaign trail and Hillary scores another "win". Now batting 1,000 ! hillaryclinton.com

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P Brown, OKC, OK — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:32:08 GMT

You need to start paying attention to your own online polls. You might a thing or two.

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Chelse C. ,New York, New York — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:32:51 GMT

Good night America, just remember to go to . hillaryclinton.com

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Atl, GA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:33:30 GMT

Biden was very strong once again!

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Gray, DC — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:34:37 GMT

Everyone one knows including you...he came in sick. Give the guy a break. At least he didn't avoid answers.

The front runner mantle is going to be a noose around her neck. You guys have her thinking she doesn't have to answer questions and that is OK. Keep it up

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Patty — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:35:09 GMT

Even though I'm not a huge Hillary fan, I thought she did quite well tonight even though she seemed to be targeted by Tim Russert (was Chris Matthews writing the questions?) Even when she was "sandbagged" by that previous quote of "William Jefferson Clinton's". She recovered well and incredibily fast by saying, "Well, he's not standing here tonight". LOL Kucinich, Biden, and even Edwards went way up in my book. As for Obama not "going after Clinton", maybe he really IS trying to clean up the political process. How refreshing!

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Obama Supporter, Maine — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:36:06 GMT

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Dodd did better. I used to think Richardson could break into the top tier, but I think he's the perfect Sec'y of State. I think he had the best answer on Iran, though.

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Tom, DC — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:36:27 GMT

How can you call stall in the poll when 55% of people didn't have a choice.

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Stephen Cassidy, CA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:36:38 GMT

You are so wrong on Richardson. He's the only one of Obama, Clinton and Edwards that gets it on Iraq. Do you think any Dem wants to see our troops in Iraq until 2013? They don't deserve to be President if they can't deliver on the most important issue of the campaign.

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Lane Kelemen — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:38:26 GMT

Mr. Todd,

Mr. Edwards is clearly not following a "schtick." Unlike the smarmy media (who have crowned Clinton and keep trying to sell the decision) Mr. Edwards is answering forthrightly, with substance, and integrity. His answers weren't overly rehearsed. They didn't need to be. He and Obama know what they think and can answer without spinning or manipulating.

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RealB.G. — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:41:49 GMT

I have never been a Tim Russert fan, but he was a winner tonight. For the first time someone held Hillary's feet to the fire. I don't think the torture question was a trick. She doesn't get it both ways. She referenced Bill's presidency several times when she thought it would benefit her in a Bill friendly crowd. Everything he did was not above reproach. Clearly the rumors about Obama being sick were true because I have never seen him so quiet. John Edwards was John Edwards. The winner of this debate was Tim Russert. Finally a journalist who forced every candidate to stand by their statements.

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Dot, Illinois — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:55:46 GMT

Sen Biden was the most impressive to me, followed by Sen Edwards then Sen Clinton. I thought Russert seemed to be especially hard on Sen Clinton, bringing up quote her husband had made. But I think it backfired on Russert, because she handled it well.

Still undecided, but think Dems have good field to choose from.

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Reggie, Seattle — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:57:10 GMT

Thought Hillary's performance was very poor. Partly because I disagree with her over 50% of the time.

She is such a hawk she should go back to the party of her college days, Republican. It would be a better fit, I expect fundraising scandels from Republican, not Democrats.

She just voted to move towards war with Iran!
And she condoned Israel's bombing of Syria's civilian nuclear facility built by France... she seems to be a puppet for the Israeli lobby... God help us!

If you want peace instead of war, anybody but Hillary!

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Will, Philadelphia, PA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:59:07 GMT

Edwards won by a mile.

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PollM — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:01:50 GMT

The leading Democratic White House hopefuls conceded Wednesday night they cannot guarantee to pull all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the end of the next presidential term in 2013.

Who do you believe won the New Hampshire Democratic Presidential Debate? -------> http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=597

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Reggie, Seattle — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:01:51 GMT

"no one landed a blow on her"

Many did. Especially Biden, who said she would be unable to work with Republicans enough to get anything done.

And she laughed about voting for the pre war with Iran bill.

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Mom, Monroe, CT — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:02:17 GMT

Biden and Dodd did very well. Both came across as experienced and as candidates who were interested in their country, not themselves. I'd pick Biden at this point in time.

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Judy Raddue, Chicago, IL — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:07:05 GMT

If Clinton doesn't want to answer questions, the debate moderators should simply ignore her until she's ready. We're into the second term of a President who acts in such a manner. How about someone who's unafraid of a little transparency???

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Daniel (Lafayette, CA) — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:09:43 GMT

Edwards hit Hillary and hit her hard. Obama need to sling some mud otherwise he'll get passed by Edwards and Richardson and Biden will be those "Objects in the mirror are closer than they appear" people. Edwards hit a home run tonight as he was on point, poised, and professional. Edwards really impressed me and has my vote locked.

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Patty, San Diego, CA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:11:02 GMT

I believe that the question regarding torture WAS a "sandbag" question asked of Hillary by Tim Russert. In general, I think hypothetical questions are dangerous because prior to an event actually happening, you NEVER know exactly what ALL the circumstances are going to be at a particular time and, therefore, you can't possibly know what you would do with any degree of accuracy. You might know today what you would WANT to do, but that isn't the same thing. Anyone who says different is blowing smoke!

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nuanced — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:18:44 GMT

Tim Russert practiced "gotcha" journalism. He is more interested in getting headlines to give people reasons not to vote for a candidate rather than try to get nuanced responses that show why we should vote for a candidate. If candidates feel they need to dodge the questions I don't blame them.

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Chris Mathers, Savannah, GA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:23:25 GMT

I think it's ridiculous that you can take your talking point that Hillary won this debate by not losing from Pat Buchannon. Without a doubt this was John Edwards debate. Not only did it begin the inevetible process of moving him into direct contention with Hillary (It seems pretty obvious to me that Obama has been promised the VP slot on a Hillary ticket, He's acting exactly the same way Edwards acted last time around)

Edwards performance tonight also came at a time when the SEIU endorsement is ever so close. Which will be huge in the great state of Nevada where a new caucus will be won by organization.

It also seems funny to me the comment about the democratic institution not liking Edwards, I personally think that he was speaking of the media conglomerates that know Clinton on the ticket will drive news ratings through the roof.

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Fred, Syracuse, NY — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:24:26 GMT

Chuck,
Robyn from Las Vegas is right--shame on you. No mention of Kucinich, the guy with integrity who's consistently been right on Iraq and just about everything else.
But you and your superiors in the MSM don't want him and Gravel to get any attention. (Oh yeah, the excuse--they're not 'major', as in 'big money' candidates.) As Robyn said, what are you afraid of?

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Katie Osage — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:24:36 GMT

Tim Russert really likes those "gotcha" moments.
I think Senator Clinton stood her ground and showed real leadership. She is sure of herself and who she is, and has an extraordinary grasp of the issues.
Obama was flat, and Edwards showed no class in trying to attack Senator Clinton.

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Susan, Osterville, Massachusetts — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:28:25 GMT

Okay, I admit it--- I'm an Edwards supporter. But for the first time tonight I think he put his best foot forward in a debate. He was much more specific and gave much more detail in his answers than the other candidates. The man has a real brain and he's not afraid to show it. His best moment--- when he pointed out that Hillary voted today to support the preliminaries to war with Iran---- giving the President just the kind of support she did before the war with Iraq. What WAS she thinking? And thanks to Edwards performance tonight there will be some publicity about it.

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Tom S — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:30:19 GMT

Barack Obama has the class to stay above the fray, the honesty to answer questions that are posed to him, and most importantly, he can actually win a general election. Hillary is going to lose the general if nominated, and just because of the "vast right-wing conspiracy." She will lose because democrats and independents flatly do not trust her.

People are just now beginning to realize that, as her lead in the national polls is beginning to diminish (see realclearpolitics.com).

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Richard G. Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:31:16 GMT

As a life long Republican, I am more and more coming to the place where I think I may hold my nose and vote for Mrs. Clinton. If it becomes a choice between say Rudy & Hillary, why choose Rudy? If we are going to end up with a Democrat anyway, I might as well vote for a real life long Democrat instead of a RINO like Rudy!

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threeriverscrossing, Raleigh, North Carolina — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:31:23 GMT

The idea of the Democrats raising payroll taxes for Social Security is a deadly political idea. They need to stick with policy of fiscal responsibility, cutting spending and growing the economy. GDP is everything and makes it possible for all in the private and government sectors. Senator Clinton mentioned the Bill Clinton years as a measure of fiscal responsibly but it was the Contract with America Republicans that kept him honest, in addition we were all heavy tax but the technology bubble in the late 90's help offset the regressive taxes by growing the economy GDP. Bill Richardson's assumptions are correct in solving the Social Security issue we must balance the budget and grow the GDP. All very possible, especially growing our GDP and is projected to grow from 2.0 (2007) to 2.6 (2008). Remember the payroll taxes are the most regressive form of taxes. The Democrat again, run the risk of being labeled too liberal and will raise taxes to solve any problems first. This will lead to defeat or no reform mandate at best.

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Chima, York, PA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:31:24 GMT

Yeah...saw the report earlier today from the local station in New Hampshire, his wife Michelle said he was sick but would still attend the debate.

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Carol Hamilton, Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:32:10 GMT

Russert's hypothetical questions (he keeps using the torture one) are silly. We're living in the era of suicide bombers, and he thinks a zealot like that would give in to a "beating"? In the Middle Ages, religious zealots allowed themselves to be burned at the stake rather than repudiate their beliefs. Take it from John McCain: torture doesn't work on a practical level. It's also ignoble. A willingness to use it puts American soldiers at risk of torture. As for the hypothetical Israel question, HC was right to mock its wording: "if Israel feels that it's in danger..." Does that mean "the Israeli government"? What if a "feeling" of this sort were sheer paranoia? What if a significant proportion of Israeli citizens oppose any warlike action?

That said, Hillary is my least favorite. Chris Matthews is right: her strategy is to avoid alienating anyone, so she refuses to say anything brave or principled or risky. I like Dodd and Biden, who have more legislative experience than she does. I like Edwards and Obama. I agree with most of what Kucinich has to say, and he's clearly the wittiest. And Russert did ask Gravel a great question--how to stop the war--and Gravel gave a fine answer.

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Jeremy, Philadelphia, PA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:34:44 GMT

Anyone who considers John Edwards to be a viable presidential candidate is falling into the 2004 trap, where Kerry was considered "most electable". Polls showing a 5% lead against the competition don't mean anything when there have been no attacks against you. Clinton has been attacked, and yet has maintained her composure. She is the Democrats' best shot.

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Samir B, Cincinnati, OH — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:42:57 GMT

As an independepent who watched the debate, I thought that Sen. Biden outperformed everyone else. He was the only one with a clear plan on Iraq and showed evidence that his plan would sway Republicans (as seen by his bill which passed through the Senate). I thought that he answered questions directly, succinctly, and clearly. I also appreciated the fact that he was the only candidate to bring up Sen. Clinton's biggest drawback in a general election- namely the name Clinton and all the failures/scandals associated with it; that too, he did it in a clever way. I don't know if I will end up voting for him, but he clearly was the best candidate tonight.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:52:16 GMT

Hillary faltered tonight and it was about time that she was tested. She avoided answering the Iran attack (by Israel) question and was totally in denial about the Social Security crisis. As far as not revealing names of donors to the Clinton Foundation, well big surprise, that was an avoidance as well. Obama (my man) did not do what I would have liked him to do, which is to strongly differentiate himself from Hillary. The talking heads said that he was sick (and truly he did not seem in his best form) but this nice guy strategy will not win the nomination for him. Maybe this is part of his 'new politics' but there is a genteel way of debating, yet still strongly expressing your opinion and it is an art. Not attacking Hillary personally is one thing but it is important to identify her bad judgment (on Iraq) and to clearly distinguish himself from her. Where he really missed his opportunity was when he failed to criticize her support for the Lieberman/Kyle resolution but Edwards (who performed admirably - and won the debate in my opinion) jumped right in and commented that she did not seem to learn her lesson from the 2002 vote (fiasco) to authorize the president to use force in Iraq. I thought that this was key. Biden gave his usual solid performance but I think that his non-binding resolution to federalize Iraq is symbolic and really of no value since this decision is an internal Iraqi affair and not our policy to make; although maybe I am being naive, since the colonial ruler does have the last word. For me the debate succeeded in knocking Hillary off of her inevitability horse but I was disappointed in Barack. Although I know that I'm not voting for the captain of the debate team, I would have liked Obama to have been more aggressive in defining himself. Still, for me it's about stopping the Hillary-establishment campaign. I do want to change the way that Washington does its politics, if that is possible.

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Abe, Dayton, Ohio — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:01:22 GMT

Mr. Todd, why are you so continually shocked when Obama doesn't stoop to bashing his opponents? Are you deaf? Isn't that the exact opposite of Obama's campaign platform?

But you don't care about that. Cable media these days is more narrative than objectivity, and you seem to at every turn want Obama to indulge in the divisive politics of blindly bashing your opponent over stupid, pointless things. Sorry, he's not going to do that. You are thinking Obama is going to act and be like every other politician out there, and that is where your analysis fails you. That's why his grassroots campaign is so strong and that's how he's going to pull out a "shocker" in Iowa, which won't be a shocker to anybody who understood Obama's point: politicians and the media, YOU are the problem.

Even if it means he loses, he still isn't going negative. It's about more than winning an election, and that's what you are failing to understand.

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Gretchen, Houston TX — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:11:54 GMT

I'm really surprised you didn't mention Dennis Kucinich even *once* in this story. But then, you did leave him in the picture so that's one up on ABC. Kucinich did a great job standing for what America ought to be, as usual. I particularly thought his commitment to ending the war sooner rather than later showed his resolve and leadership.

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Anonymous — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:13:51 GMT

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:15:22 GMT

If Hillary thought her feet was held to the fire tonight, wait till she goes one on one with the GOP candidate. She will beg for Ice water by the end of the debate.

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Louis Simpson, MD Indianapolis, Indiana — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:32:58 GMT

I look at the debates tonight. I think that what I want in a president is intelligence, calmness under pressure and a person
who is an unites people. America elect George Bush.
He is a reflection of us. So is our Congress.
Very dysfunction. I am in my sixies and a physician
for thirty five years. I am looking for someone
I am originally from Indiana and conservative.
It appears to me that Senator Obama is a one in
a generation candidate. Steady.

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Tim Johnson — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:37:55 GMT

Governor Richardson was right on point in the debate. He made it clear that if you are serious about the ending the war, the rhetoric must end and the future president must bring everyone home. NO TROOPS LEFT BEHIND! There cannot be a military solution and the so-called "big three" don't get it.

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Kathleen Bushman — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:47:53 GMT

I won't get off my couch to vote for any of these candidates except Kucinich. Kucinich is the only serious candidate in the field because he has taken well considered stands on all the important issues; the other candidates are only trying to convince us to take them seriously.

If the DLC selects another candidate - I fully intend to write in the name "Kucinich".

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Ryan Miami, FL — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:47:56 GMT

No mention of Kucinich. Americans want a health care system with patients, not corporations coming first.

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Jody Willson Palmer, San Francisco, California — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 05:58:30 GMT

Hillary Clinton wins again: Tonight, I was more impressed with Edwards than during the last debate. Conversely, Obama was weak. He is long on rhetoric and short on substance. He is an inspirational speaker with nice ideas, but he is not ready to lead. Give him 8 more years to grow. Hillary, however, demonstrated that she is the most prepared to be President. She has the experience and knowledge to work within the system to affect change. She does not give fantasy-land, "feel good" answers; she provides meaningful responses that show thorough consideration of the issues. I trust Hillary to do the job right!

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Dave, Washington, DC — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:17:16 GMT

Come on Chuck, give Edwards more credit! He did great tonight against Hillary, he's leading on all the issues among the candidates, and he is the most electable. Hillary steals John's health care plan, Obama consistently agrees with John when he actually makes attacks on Hillary; who's leading the pack now?

Let's actually report on who is clearly the better politician, which is Edwards. Now, it's up to you and the rest of the media to decide what's a sexier story: a black man vs a white woman for the nomination, or an honest, well-spoken white man from the South who can bring about change our country. One may be better for ratings, but the other choice is better for the country.

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KD, California — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:40:41 GMT

I thought this was the best debate so far. I'm an Obama supporter, but I thought John Edwards was by far the most outstanding candidate tonight. Tim Russert did a superb job; I loved his interaction with Hillary. I also enjoyed the pre and post-debate shows with Chris Matthews, David Gregory, and you! Great job!

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Nick F, Berkeley, CA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:42:57 GMT

I think hypothetical questions on foreign policy should be banned. What? Open the kimono and give the Republicans time to craft their strategies?

If you want a Democrat to win, I say we should all start a petition to stop moderators from asking hypothetical foreign policy questions during the primary. Let's wait until we're debating the other side.

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Don, Huntington, WV — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 06:52:37 GMT

Tim Russert does not like Senator Clinton, and it only made him madder when she made a fool of him this past Sunday. He tried to put her on the spot again and true to form, Hillary got the best of him again.

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Tom, New York, NY — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:10:46 GMT

If Tim Russert isn't even going to attempt to hide his anti Hillary bias he shouldn't be allowed to host anymore debates that she is in.

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s fulton — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:25:55 GMT

know what i like about hillary? she refuses to give phoney answers.she must be laughing like crazy when she hears these, brainless guys, talking as if they have some great plan for all these giant issues.

please! there is no easy answer to ruling the world or even a country, if anyone has a clue its hillary, who's been there, or even biden or dodd, or richardson.

but everyone else scares me, it would be like putting another learn on the job president like george w., back in the white house. scarry !

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Jacqueline Robinson, San Diego, CA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 07:52:15 GMT

I think you are right on re: Biden. It isn't just the beltway, but it isn't everyone. There is still time for the momentum to take off. He has been working on this campaign through the internet for the last year. Many on the internet told him to run in the first place and this was before he announce his candidacy. I doubt the internet had much to do with it but it didn't hurt.

Give him time for the rest of the country to know him.

If he could just get the West Coast to know who he is...I think that might set the stage for real action on his campaign.

On that subject- why is it the East Coast just forgets the Western States? We make up over 60% of the voters (if not more)...someone, somewhere continual has a braincloud about the viability the Western States...from Colorado West (and parts of Kansas, OK, and TX.

Anyway, I like Biden and if he has staying power, he will have my vote.
Lynn
San Diego, CA

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Straight up /AZ — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:05:17 GMT

I like how Hillary uses ""Post auto suggestion"" She has the grind down just like Mao, Hitler, That nut case in N.Korea, And the Total insane case from Iran. Well, she uses that chicken back woods laugh when she has lost the ability to stay with the subject matter. That ear plug used as a prompter can tell her what to say ""Must be stuck in the wrong Place". ""Hillary you put it in the ear!!!!!! Now You know why these clowns stumble for words!!!

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JOE MASONG — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:16:50 GMT

HILLARY IN 2008 AND 2012 OBAMA OR EDWARDS IN 2016 THIS WOULD BRING OUR COUNTRY BACK TO OUR ONCE RESPECTED STATUS BEFORE THE BUSH DEBACLE

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Randall Spangler — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:16:53 GMT

I GUESS THE REPUB'S ARE NOT THE ONLY WAR MONGERS SINCE NONE OF THE TOP RUNNING DEMS WOULD PROMISE A TIMETABLE PULL-OUT. ONLY A COUPLE NO-CHANCER'S TRYING TO MAKE A RUN AT V.P. AND HILLARY WANTS A NATIONAL CONSENSUS ON HEALTH CARE. YEP SOCIALISM IS ON THE HORIZON, WE HAVE SEEN THE ENEMEY AND THEY WERE DEBATING LAST NITE.

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Michelle Marichic — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:48:20 GMT

My mind is made up, my vote goes to Hillary! She's a strong intellegent woman who can stand her own. People may not want another Clinton presidency but I think they did a fine job when they were in office in the 90's. She's got my vote!

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Antonia flint, Princeton, NJ — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:51:32 GMT

The winner last night was Kuchinich. He even brought the house down with a laugh line. Can't you mention him even once? You're not alone in this media bias and over simplification, but perhaps you could break ground by giving him more coverage.

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Amy B Portland ME — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 10:59:22 GMT

I'm really disappointed I can't get the debate video to play. I watched the last MSNBC debate video on here, and I always watch MTP online, so I don't know what the problem is. Guess I will have to catch it on You Tube. At least from this blog, it sounds like the best debate so far.

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Art Horn — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:00:54 GMT

I am very disappointed with Russerts lack of questions to the lower tier candidates such as Kucinich and Gravel. Especially on the health care issue. It is obvious to me the main stream media does not want to discuss single payer government health care. This was not a fair debate as most of the floor was given to the top tier candidates who by the way dodged most of the questions head on.

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Jack — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:14:01 GMT

The problem with these debates is that the media builds up the expectations and would to see a knock down drag out fight or a dramatic confrontational moment. Sorry, Mr. Matthews, that is just not going to happen. For the most part these things are boring and I'm speaking as a political junkie. There are too many of them, there are too many candidates on the stage and no one is given adequate time. The candidates with the most interesting things to say, in both parties, are never taken seriously. I agree with Todd on one point - Joe Biden does always seem to shoot from the hip and I think that comes off well.

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Susan, Floyd County, Iowa — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:14:29 GMT

Chuck, it's not just you. There are quite a few of us out here in Iowa who think Biden is Mr. Straight Talk. Of all the candidates I have been to see as they marched through here, he is the one who actually answered questions. Maybe he would get more traction if the media was not so mesmerized by the Clintons and the horse race. I think you all bear some responsibility if we end up with Hillary in the White House, and troops in Iraq for the next ten years.

I wish Russert had followed up more with Gravel's outburst about the vote on the Iran amendment yesterday. Hillary voted for that stinker, which is a not-too-subtle effort by Lieberman (again) to push us closer to war with Iran.

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G. F. Johnson, South Haven Mn. — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:22:13 GMT

The Media has corinated Hillary as their queen! Very much as they covered for her stumbleing husband Bill for eight long years before her. And the Kennedys before them.Therefore they, the media, will continue to praise her non-answer answers as brillant with never a challenge. Once again leaving what ever credible journalism work gets done up to Talk Radio.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:39:58 GMT

How about a discussion of the issues? Why is the entire analysis focused on "how" the candidates debated instead of about "what" they debated??

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matt — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:40:11 GMT

Hillary saved her night with the set of answers to the Bill/torture hypothetical. "He's not stadning up here" is the line of her campaign so far.

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Matthew Lemaster, Manchester, CT — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:41:46 GMT

The narrative the media has woven that all forums/debates have to be judged by whether or not someone "landed a blow" on Hillary Clinton is an artificial one that allows the media to drown out other candidates and their positions. The controversial nature of Hillary makes it much easier to talk about and helps with ratings. I'm becoming more disappointed with Chuck Todd who I have viewed as being as about as much of an "objective" analyst as one can be in his position.

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pmorlan, Louisville, KY — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:42:32 GMT

I thought John Edwards did a great job! We were VERY impressed.

Chuck Todd, you mentioned that the Washington insiders hate Edwards. Sounds like you have a story to me. How about giving us some more details? Don't you think the voters are entitled to know about the enemies of each candidate? After all a candidates enemies says as much about a candidate as who their friend are. How about a story on this or are the details only for the ears of those inside the beltway?

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threeriverscrossing, Raleigh, North Carolina — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:44:22 GMT

Our country is at a crossroad, where our long term financial security and foreign policies in the Middle East cross as forks in the road. We have a choice to continue on the current path with American occupation in Iraq for the long haul at the risk of ignoring our financial security or take a different path that puts the burden of security of region on the people of the region themselves and have our role to shift from occupier of the region to become a meditator of agreed solution(s) for the parties of the region. It is true that a percentage of Americans believes we should have a long term occupation of region as the only way to get stability. But some fundamental questions must be asked about such a long term occupation. Did we not come to liberate the Iraq peoples or did we come to occupy and dominate them as greater vision to empower American interest in the Middle East? If it is the latter, then we lied to the world about liberation of Iraq. Now who will pay this long term war debt and occupation for Iraq? Today, Americans who support the Iraq occupation have not stepped up to the plate to purchase war bonds. The purchase of war bonds are all historic low considering we are at war, but the Chinese and Iranian governments to date have taken this opportunity to purchase our debt as it grows with our war effort in Iraq. Richardson is correct, we must shift our role from occupier to meditator and pursue our long term American interest for security and stability with foresight. As Richardson has stated many times, a nation with a strong foreign policy and weak military is a weak leader, a nation with a strong foreign policy and strong military is a powerful leader, and nation with a weak foreign policy and strong military is blind. We are at crossroads.

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Maya Puri — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 11:47:21 GMT

Great job, Edwards!!! Obama was obviously sick because he did not have his game on tonight--which is a shame. I think Hillary is finally beginning to show her true colors--her testiness and irritability was quite apparent in her answers to the social security and Iran questions. What she doesn't realize is she isn't president yet (and may never be!), so she comes across as just plain arrogant and disingenuous when she bluntly refused to answer questions. Way to go nailing her to the wall, Tim Russert! More journalists and media people should do the same to show the American people how Ms. Clinton handles off the cuff questioning (read: she squirms!).

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Steve Ferreira — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:30:03 GMT

Edwards won the debate hands down! He has in many of the debates people are just starting to listen to him. He is the best canidate in my mind and has my vote.

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Robert K., Washington, DC — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:36:11 GMT

I thought the whole debate was about Hillary Clinton! Tim Russert could have invited Bill Clinton if he had that many questions for him. Chris Mathews should say straight out that he is biased and endorses Biden before trashing everyone on stage after debate. I thought MSNBC did a horrible job. The candidates were great. All of them.

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K. O., Burnsville, MN — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:44:06 GMT

Chris Todd, please do more work for MSNBC and actually correctly analyze debates because your story didn't really tell me anything about Clinton's performance, or even how she answered questions. Clinton never really answers the questions directed at her, much like someone in the White House we know. I don't want more of the same, and currently, with the way she is running her campaign, taking money from senate campaign funds and using it irresponsibly for presidential campaign funds, I don't really trust her. She has big plans for health care and she had more than enough power and resources to do it in the mid-nineties but couldn't get the job done then, and even now is failing to reach out to republicans. That's dangerous for a possible democratic nominee and could, as Bush and other republicans know, cost democrats the presidency. Barack is way more honest. Whether it be his answers, which are thougthfully answered and aren't just cookie-cut rhetoric, or his method of raising funds for a project as big as a presidential campaign - he really knows how to get things done and to do things right. Edwards I think is just saying things in order to win, not really truthfully answering questions on what he would do if elected.

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ki houston — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:47:40 GMT

If you feed people divisiveness they will be divisive if you feed them intolerance they will be intolerant if you feed them fear they will become fearfull , but if you feed them reason , tolerance ,and hope they will become reasoned , tolerant, and hopefull . Well i guess that flew right over chris and the pindits head , because right after the debate what did they feed us hate ,divisivness, intolerance . Why do they think this is a pay perview fight . It is a forum for ideas not to see who can through the biggest hissey-fit . at least one person remains to act like a mature adult .
Obama \webb 08

btw that was the best line of the debate to me .

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Al, KS — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:49:11 GMT

Overall I thought it was a good debate, and I think Tim did a great job. But...Hillary in charge? I just don't buy that. She reminded me of Bush "It's just so hard" in his first debate with Kerry. No substance. Playing dodge ball. I think if more candidates had gone after her, Dodd's failed at his chance, she could have been knocked out. Imagine if everyone of the other candidates had taken just one good shot...she would have been using that annoying laugh all night. I'm beginning to wonder if she could hold her own with Guiliani or any other GOP candidate when she will be taking some real shots. Clearly Edwards did the best tonight...better than at anytime in the past. I agree that Obama was off his game, and I was dissappointed in him. Richardson seemed to ramble as usual. My biggest complaint is that Biden did not get enough air time.

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Allen Ridge, MD — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:55:53 GMT

"CBS/AP) The leading Democratic White House hopefuls conceded Wednesday night they cannot guarantee to pull all U.S. combat troops from Iraq by the end of the next presidential term in 2013."

OH! the truth is starting to come out now. Great debate give Tim Russett credit for "pulling" this info out of the slimy Democrats.

Here's a Party that with the help of America''s corrupt liberal MSM wolfpack press pulled one the the biggest propaganda campaigns off in 2006 by "promising the American people THEY would end the war in Iraq.

And now last night they, the most unqualified bunch of Dems to ever run for president, are saying that troops will still be in Iraq in 2013.

What do you liberals think of that now?

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Kevin M — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:56:10 GMT

Is it too late for Tim Russert to get in the race?

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Ki houston — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:57:57 GMT

I agree tim russert won this debate ,he came off to me as a honest moderator and held everyone to the same standard plus held them to their statments.
Good job Tim .

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H.J.NAPIERACZ — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:00:11 GMT

GOOD LUCK OBAMA .I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS A BEDATE FOR THE PRES. NOT THE V.P.,DON'T WORRY WE STILL LOVE YOUR IDEAS. AT SOME POINT THEY WILL SHINE THROUGH.

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Tom Aubel — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:00:41 GMT

SO let me get this straight, all of the Democratic canadites have been telling the President he needs to det a timeline to get troops out of Iraq, but none of them want to set a timeline if and when they win? HYPOCRITES!!!!

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David McClary Traverse City, MI — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:06:36 GMT

Hillary--"He's not standing up here tonight. I am." Best line of the campaign so far. Hands down.

Dave
Traverse City, MI

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Ashe, SF CA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:18:14 GMT

If Chuck Todd would take off the Hillary-inspired glasses he's wearing then he would realize this was Hillary's worst performance. She seemed flustered, agitated, temperamental and refused to answer any questions. Democrats desreve to know where the candidates stand on issues and Hillary will not give them the pleasure. She's playing the general election strategy...but first she has to win the nomination. You and your so-called media "pundits" have already anointed her as the nominee...but half of the Democratic electorate is still undecided.
I think the most telling response was to the last question: which baseball team do the candidates support? Red sox or Yankees? Hillary called herself a Yankees fan but in a hypothetical World Series match-up between the Cubs and Yankees- she would alternate her support. WTF? She couldn't even take a position on this issue whereas, Obama said he was a White Sox fan.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:18:42 GMT

I didnt think it was a loooooong night at all. I was actually entertained by the debate and pleased with most of the answers the candidates gave.
If you mean the Democrats didn't rip each other apart then, no, that didn't happen.
By the way Dian.....if you thought Obama did well last night I would have to question just exactly what debate you were watching? It sure wasnt the same one I saw.
He flubbed the Iran question...again...by saying that he would sit down and negotiate with Ahmedinajad (spelling?) How many times is he going to give that same answer.....and then have his people claim "foul" when he gets taken to task for it?

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Ken Hamaker, Birmingham, Alabama — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 13:56:52 GMT

I think John Edwards shined through tonight, he answered the questions, told the truth and had the guts to stand up to Hillary and define their differences. I realize Hillary is extremely intelligent, however, I was very unhappy that she chose to avoid answering questions and she lead me to believe she would follow the same trend of arrogance of not listening to the voters and not being forthright with us...I for one, am very sick is this behavior. America deserves a President that will work for all Americans and will be honest and at the very least give us a little respect by listening to our wishes.

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Randy, NH — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:06:59 GMT

When Howard Fineman agreed with Pat Buchanan (whose praying Hillary is the nominee, because other than Kucinich or Gravel is the GOP's best chance at the WH) that Hillary won, by not losing, I could not believe it. I will not fully share what I thought of Fineman at that time. The other pundit also agreed. Immediately after that Sen. Biden was the first post debate interview, and he came across great, as usual. And when the pundits were back on Fineman said he had a change of heart, that this was actually Clinton's worst debate. DUH! Better late than never, the female pundit then also agreed with Fineman, that this was Clinton's worst debate performance.

It was nice to see Clinton challenged a bit. All candidates should be challenged to answer the questions, and not what they want to answer, but the question actually asked. Most did that last night. Clinton not only didn't last night (or in previous debates) but when pinned down to answer, she simply refused to do so. The idea that we are suppose to support a candidate with no proven track record of her own (name one piece of major legislation she has passed)is the best candidate, when she refuses to answer questions, refuses to provide specifics (go to her website)is crazy! I am not going to blindly support anyone, and I'm unwilling to wait until the general election when the nominee will be forced to take a stand on issues to find out that I've been sold down the river.

I understand it's the Clinton strategy not to say anything that would hurt her in a general election. But if the choice is between candidates being honest and stating the truth and one who won't say anything, because it might hurt her later, I'm sticking with the candidate who'll tell me where they stand, if you don't have enough confidence in your position(s) to publicly state them, why should I have any confidence in you?

It is hard to pinpoint Clinton's most disingenuous moment. Her Cubs versus Yankees bit, right you're a fan and you'll alternate cheering between two teams for the world series. Give me a break, or when she said her husbands not running she is, after she criticized an un-named guest's statement on MTP, only to find out, the statement was made by Bill. and she is running on her own accomplishments. Really? Because I recall several times Clinton referring to in my husbands administration, blah, blah, blah. Clinton can't (WON'T) take a stand on anything, not even anything as simple as what team she really supports.

Biden, Dodd, & Edwards were all great last night, they at least respect voters enough to not act like Bush and refuse to answer questions.

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DrPolitico — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:08:01 GMT

Edwards did an outstanding job of taking Hillary to task regarding her pathetic Iran vote yesterday and what it means (she still hasn't learned her lesson after voting for the Iraq war!). He's taking the tough stance that I was hoping Obama would. Even Mike Gravel said he was "ashamed" of her Iraq vote--touche!! Joe Biden came across as smart and well-versed regarding foreign policy. Finally, it's nice to at last see a moderator like Tim Russert who is tough enough on Hillary not to let her get away with her usual song and dance (which has obviously fooled quite a few people on this post--sadly). Keep up the great work, Tim!! You really cleaned her clock.

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John Burns, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:08:56 GMT

Edwards is already well past Obama in Iowa and Nevada, and closing thhe gap in New Hampshire, where Obama lost 7 points in the latest poll and Edwards gained 5. Edwards will be in second place in NH polls by next month.

One thing I wanted to ask, Mr. Todd - who are the 'Democrat elite' as you put it, who 'hate' John Edwards?

Unless you have an agreement with a specific anonymous source, it is journalistic cowardice to say something like that and not identify who you are talking about.

You can't pass on rumor and gossip as fact without attributing the comments to someone.

So name some names.

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Mitch Covington — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:16:48 GMT

I'm astounded that none of the front runners have the stones to commit to getting the troops out of Iraq by the end of their first term! I'm voting for Ron Paul!

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Gary, Franklin, WI — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:18:20 GMT

Who did best in a single debate should never be the issue. (My opinion is Clinton overall last night, Edwards on movement, but who cares?)

What is most important is that we keep our eye on the prize, winning the Presidency. That is why not answering "hypotheticals" or committing yourself to a sweeping policy through 30 second or 90 second responses is appropriate and candidates are right to be cautious

The other problem with last nights debate is that most questions have been asked multiple times in previous debates. Tim Russert had the opportunity to broaden the discussion to such issues as cancer research, environmental protection, global warming, stem cell research, NASA's Constellation program to establish a permanent Moon base and eventually go on to Mars, infrastructure, future of the Older Americans Act, and on and on. Such issues need to be addressed.

This was not an episode of Meet The Press. Russert needs to remember that journalism is not about the journalist, but rather about the story. He deserves a C- for his performance.

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Mary, NH — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:27:21 GMT

First of all I support Obama, before and after the debate. I think John did well, For Hillary finally the chickens are coming home to roost...people will see she says nothing and couldn't get away with it last night.

As for Obama, yes he was ill and yes he was off his game in terms of energy. But I still thought his answers were good.

The MSM is so anxious for a dog fight...well before the debate they had it set up if he different walk across the stage and slap her (which he wouldn't do) then he had lost.

BTW if he had come at her swinging then they would have been the first to say "what happen to the politics of hope" so of course he couldn't win.

MSM if you want people to know what Hillary has been up to and the lies she tells why not do YOUR job. It was your failure to that that got us in Iraq. But you don't because you don't won't to anger the Clintons in case she wins just like GQ, you have NO spine.

I thought the most telling thing was post debate when you guys slipped and mentioned that Hillary has no impromtu questions on the stump..that her staff comes to people first and ask what the questions will be....Now who does that remind you of. I wonder how many people caught that.

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Iowa health care worker — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:30:42 GMT

"Clinton has been attacked, and yet has maintained her composure. She is the Democrats' best shot.

Jeremy, Philadelphia, PA "

You have got to be kidding. What candidate up there hasn't withstood political attacks? Even though Sen. Biden is less than 5 years older than Clinton, he has been elected to the Senate 6 times, don't you think he was attacked each time? I don't live in Delaware, but I'm sure he was.

Clinton has maintained her composure? What the heck are you saying? Are you referring to the fact she didn't break down and cry? She didn't go into a screaming fit?

How about the fact that Clinton is largely to blame for the current health care crisis. in 93/94 the legislature and WH were all under Democratic control. And the Clinton's were going to revise health care in the US. Hillary admits some mistakes, but it is clear she either is dishonest or has yet to learn all of her mistakes. Every time she says how lonely she was back in 93/94 trying to reform health care, I have to use all my self control to resist throwing an object at the TV. (why break the TV, because Clinton's lying, or has no clue) Hillary shut not only GOP, health care industry rep's out of her planning/meetings, she shut out leading Democrats, and then tried to smear those shut out because they refused to embrace a plan the country was not yet willing to accept (and apparently not that great or it would be her plan today, instead of a mirror of Sen Chaffee's (RI-Rep.)plan prior to 93.

Hillary might win the general, if God forbid she's the nominee, but if you believe she is the Democrats best shot in the general you are politically isolated.

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Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:47:44 GMT

Chuck Todd said "Biden, once again, did well. The guy just needs resources and he just might get some traction. Then again, maybe it's just us Beltway types who think he's shooting straighter from the hip than any of the other candidates. ...At a minimum, I think he's earned a spot on the VP short list, forget Sec./State."

Chuck you're right and wrong:

Right:
1. "Biden, once again, did well." Yes, he did, he shined, even though he didn't get anywhere near the time as almost all the other candidates. And did you notice he had no problem with the rapid fire questions.
2. "The guy just needs resources and he just might get some traction." The only disagreement I have is with use of might, he already has traction in Iowa, but more funding would increase his exposure on TV, which would INCREASE his traction. ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE BIDEN WIN IOWA,GO TO HIS WEBSITE AND DONATE MONEY!
3."maybe it's just us Beltway types who think he's shooting straighter from the hip than any of the other candidates." No it isn't just the Beltway mentality, in Iowa he is recognized as the most honest, and forth coming candidate. Even people who oppose him don't criticize his candor. Although shooting from the hip normally has a negative connotation, it usually refers to someone who speaks without thinking. With Biden its true to the extent, he speaks truthfully, and lets the chips fall where they may, as opposed to someone who speaks stupidly without thinking.

Wrong: "At a minimum, I think he's earned a spot on the VP short list, forget Sec./State." If you believe Biden is honest, which I do, and it appears you do, then Chuck there is no way Sen. Biden would agree to be VP, he has made it perfectly clear in Iowa on numerous occasions, that he will not agree to run as VP, or agree to be secretary of state.

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my candidate will answer questions — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:51:20 GMT

Nick F, Berkeley, CA hypothetically should be banned? According to Hillary asking about social security is a hypothetical. Maybe Hillary should just provide the moderator with a list of questions that are off limits, because God forbid she be required to actually answer questions that the voters are interested in.

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Molly, Iowa City — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:03:51 GMT

My biggest complaint is that Biden did not get enough air time.

Al, KS

I agree, but what little time he did get, he again proved to be the best choice.

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DrPolitico — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:05:16 GMT

To Mary, NH: Excellent point about Hillary not taking impromptu questions on the stump (just like our current pres). And thank you for bringing up the GQ story (which a lot of people may not have heard about)--Hillary's campaign actually threatened GQ magazine that if it published an article detailling all the infighting and chaos within the Clinton campaign, then GQ would no longer have access to Bill!! And GQ caved in--how lame is that? Please journalists--have some integrity (and courage)--don't cave in to these kinds of threats!! Or better yet, make it your next story--Hillary's campaign threatens GQ magazine--expose her for the fraud she is.

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J R Floyd county Iowa — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:11:24 GMT

Joe Biden is by far the most experienced of all the candidates. He gave real answers to the questions and took the least time to do it. Russert lost control of the debate early on and never got it back. He let Hillary take charge and she spoke about twice as long as anyone else. When she said I won't answer that question he should have said fine and moved on instead of let her make some talking points. All of the candidates are now coming to some agreement with Joe Biden on how to end the war. Hillary doged the question of how much she was involved in high level discussions about forien policy. The answer is she was not involved and she got away with the dodge.

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J Lyon Silverdale, WA — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 15:46:00 GMT

Are you all crazy?? What happened to pulling ALL our troops out of Iraq? All of that is now gone? We are going to roll over now and say "Oh, Hillary, we agree with you on all your other policies that we'll let you slide to keep HALF of our troops over there." Hellloooo! What happened to all the pressure on your congess-persons to bring the troops home. I see now, it's 'support the troops' when it's convenient. Are you for a pull-out or not? And don't give me an evasive, kind-of, sort-of answer like Hillary! Stand for what you believe in or don't.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 16:48:29 GMT

Randy - Maybe she is just not a big baseball fan. Or maybe she actually does like both teams. After all, she grew up in IL, and now resides in NY.

I wasn't a big baseball fan in 2004. It was actually the first time I ever watched the post-season. I was dazzled by the Red Sox but was being taught baseball by a die-hard Cardinals fan, and was really loving what I saw from them in the NLCS. The result? In the WS, I cheered for whichever team happened to be losing...LOL.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:45:59 GMT

Al,KS - "she reminded me of Bush".
Well Al, I couldn't agree with you more. Hillary's Bush-like persona is a real turn off (although admittedly, she is far more intellegent and eloquent). Her refusal to address the Social Security problem with a commitment to raise taxes on the rich was unforgivable. Fiscal responsibility? Grow the economy? Yeah, those things would be a great help to set SS on a sound footing, but we can't wait. People want to know that the money that they are now putting into Social Security will be there for them when they retire. It's a tough stand to take and she won't commit. But the worst thing was her vote for the Lieberman/Kyle resolution calling for recognition of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard as a terrorist organization. It sounds so much like her decision to give the president authorization to use force in Iraq. As John Edwards correctly pointed out, she hasn't learned anything, has she? I just don't like being had. I can't support another Republican for president, I've had enough of GWB for the last seven years.
Obama/Webb '08

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Mike Evatt — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 18:56:57 GMT

The GOP dream ticket: Clinton/Obama; Repulicans win another four years at 1600 Penn. Ave. The only way to beat the Repuke party is to vote and support John and Elizabeth Edwards. That is right, you heard it hear first from one of the reddest states in the union: SC. John can even beat Rudy here in the south, but Hillary or Barak will lose big time and the electoral college will once again end up with over 270 votes for the GOP. Wise up Dems, when both Newt and Bush start saying she is going to be the Dems nominee you can really see the opening they are praying for so they can hold on to power!

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Marsha W. Seattle, Wash. — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 19:07:29 GMT

I was surprised by Tim's sandbagging questions. And the hypothetical questions are relating too close to immediate issues that the general public aren't privy to (as much as we'd like to think we really are in the know). I just know we have to change our course and clean up our government and our reputation to how the rest of the world feels and deals with us. In the past we have given too much and not gotten enough back in return. That's why I don't like bardering. I read people's comments and were still slinging mud and enjoying when candidates do it at one another. I want this campaign to be different. Hillary has kept to her points and not slung mud nor put another person down. As Mr. Russert pointed out - no one person has a clean slate! Biden may have one last night, but he would make an excellent Vice President - our country needs someone who has been in the trenches of politics both domestic and foriegn. I still believe in Hillary, and know she is the best person for the job. We're going to have to be very careful comming out of Iraq and keep a close eye on Iran, because the middle east volitale. And the sooner we are less dependent on their oil - the better off we will be. And earth will hopefully last a little longer.

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atl, Portland, OR — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:45:39 GMT

The Democrats are in a sad situation. Hillary isn't nearly as bright as many Dems want to think she is, and she has a mean streak. There are many, many similarities between Hillary and Bush. Almost any other candidate on the Dem side would be better, but I long for the days of the real liberals who would effect change and reposition the U.S. in the world. Sen. Gravel is right and let's give him credit: Hillary should be ashamed of herself.

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Julie Overvig,Medford,Oregon — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 00:49:50 GMT

Joe Biden is the best choice for the next President We are in a wrong war and he is the most knowlegeable about the War and how to leave it.He has a plan that makes since . Also he was right about Hillary she's a nice lady but the Republicans hate her and we need someone who they will work with. Even the President wants her to win knowing she has alot of Clinton Haters out there. Biden can go head to head with any Republican he has the experience and knowledge to win that debate.

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Debra Boston MA. — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 04:12:43 GMT

Edwards and Obama appear Presidential. Hillary's health care debacle, fund raising demise, vote on the Iraq war and now her vote on the Iranian Red Guard. She doesn't learn from her mistakes, clearly a lack luster performance on her part. If nominated the Republicans will shred Hillary and her husbands trangressions. The Democrats need to lose Hillary, she'll split the party and give the White House to the Republicans, uncontested. She's truly bad politics.

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Mike Emig, Dover, DE — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:40:13 GMT

The more I see Hillary the more presidential she seems. She makes the others on the stage look smaller.
Tim Russert came across as a self promoting jerk when he threw out the "gottcha question".