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mikeeg,abdn,wa — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:46:53 GMT

rudy has family values, he must, he has had what 3 families now. Everyone knows the dems not only have more sex but better sex than repubs cause have you ever heard anyone say "I had a great peice of elephant last nite?"

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Rob Boston — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:53:44 GMT

I am NOT a Paul supporter (I worry about his economic policies) but give the guy some credit and some coverage. He gets great news on fundraising (arguably out raising all other candidates based on amount of news coverage per dollar) and all you can write about is how this effects Huckabee? Why not say something about Paul himself? And why label him "unknown candidate" when he obviously is having an impact among citizens who contribute money? The news coverage on all others is: Look how well/poorly they are doing in the informal money raising "primary." When Paul does well in fund raising the coverage is: Can you believe that others could not even get more money than oddball Ron Paul.

I am not a Ron Paul supporter, but I do support fair play. How about it MSNBC?

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kenn"SWEET JESUS"O — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:01:05 GMT

THE END IS NEAR,for the repuckers,THANK GOD,

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Pat, Huntington, NY — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:20:50 GMT

Rudy is just amazing! And not in the good way. When Mayor of NYC,he was socially liberal, fiscally conservative, and generally tough on crime. However, now that he's running for National Office, he's all of a sudden a born again social conservative? What? This is the biggest flip flop and pandering job since, well, since never. It's the biggest one. He's a phony, a bully, and will destroy this country.

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Tuck, Realityville, Kansas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:23:42 GMT

Dobson, have you been dreaming aobut sponge bob square pants again?

tsk tsk

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Laurie, Manasquan, NJ — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:29:45 GMT

James Dobson is a joke. Unfortunately, he has insinuated himself within the Republican heirarchy and actually has some influence. The religious right has too much control over the Republican party and I believe it will be the undoing of the party over time because of it. Actually, the best thing that could happen to the Republicans is if Dobson and his religious loons would break away and form a third party. They will quickly become irrelevant as they will be exposed for the bigotted, hateful authoritarians that they all are and the Republican party can get to the business of actually promoting true Republican principles that the party was founded on.

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Laurie, Manasquan, NJ — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:32:07 GMT

Pat - I agree with you...Rudy is so phony and transparant and please what's that ringing cell phone business any way? If that doesn't smack of a media stunt every time he does it I don't know what would. He was a rotten mayor and he would make a rotten president.

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MIke RC, Rockwall, Texas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:39:31 GMT

While I may not agree with James Dobson on a number of issues, I respect his willingness to support only a candidate with whom he agrees on issues such as abortion.

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nuanced — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:42:41 GMT

It is a misnomer to call it an ethanol subsidy. It is really a specific subsidy for corn used to make ethanol. There is no subsidy for alternatives such as sugar cane from which ethanol can be made for 1/2 to 1/3 the cost. There is barely a net energy gain when the energy costs of the corn production and processing is calculated. It is a result of intense lobbying and political contributions (bribes) orchestrated by Archer Daniels Midland for the benefit of the corn business. It will never lead to energy independence for the US but is distorting and damaging world wide food markets. Brazil is on its way to energy independence with sugar cane based ethanol production.

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Nicholas, Minneaps, MN — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:45:45 GMT

McCain is doing a better job at separating himself from Bush and Bush's war strategy. Even though, he adamantly supports the war, he doesn't support Bush's strategy. It is that distinction that is fueling his comeback.

Dr. R. Paul. Congratulations on the money, it helps you stay relevant in the race. Do we really want another president to take us to the right of Bush on the issues aside from the War?

F. Thompson gave hope to the conservative agenda before entering, and it seems like nothing he does can dislodge his support from conservatives. Even though he is a failed candidate, people still flock to support him. Isn't the human condition interesting.

Why don't conservatives like Huckabee? He is arguably the most electable repub in the next election. Only, he can't gain traction in the primary.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 14:49:31 GMT

Hmmmm....
who to vote for?

A man who has been married three times?
or a woman who is married in name only and needs his name to be elected president because she can't do it on her own?

tough choice.

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Nicholas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:10:34 GMT

Jerry, why don't conservatives like Huckabee? Perhaps you can answer.

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Laurie, Manasquan, NJ — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:13:13 GMT

Hey Jerry, I think if she were Hilary Rodham she'd have a better chance because the Clinton name comes with some baggage. She most definitely can do this on her own. I suggest to you she is way smarter than Bill. She will be a better president by far.

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Union Baby, Tennessee — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:22:23 GMT

Jerry,
Not a tough choice at all for those of us who said:
Til death do us part, not til divorce do us part in our wedding ceremony.
Being married is difficult, staying married is the hardest work anyone can do and deserves some recognition and consideration. By the way - if you want to talk about folks being married and staying married - don't forget John and Elizabeth Edwards, Gov. & Mrs. Richardson, Ron Paul, Mike Huckabee, or Mitt Romney.
If a person has more than one living spouse to me that is not good and one of the reaon's I did not support John Kerry in 2004 (worked for Edwards) and one of the reasons I never trusted R. Reagan. To me having family values does not mean having lots of families, it means true value of the one you started out with. Remember the old song "You are still the one?" Kind of says it all.

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Betty, Baltimore, MD — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:23:08 GMT

Poor Jerry has trouble comparing Mormans and Oranges.

Rudy: "So maybe it is respect for the idea that I will be straight with you" -- this is code for I won't dress in drag and let Trump molest me on TV.

Sold!

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Gary, Franklin, WI — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:27:19 GMT

Focus on the Family's James Dobson may be near his own personal revelation (he doesn't know it yet).

When he goes into the voting booth and has to choose between Rudy "likes to dance in a dress" Guiliani and Hillary Clinton he has a decision to make.

Dobson has to decide does Focus on the Family prefer (1) a candidate who is on his third marriage, who lived for a time with gay friends after the end of marriage number two, is estranged from his children, appears to has no strong religious affiliation, and is pro-abortion or (2) a candidate who is on her first marriage, has survived some rough spots in that marriage, remains together with her husband, continues a close relationship with her daughter, is a Christian and is pro-abortion. Both candidates say abortion should be legal, but rare.

Politics, including voting, has always been a matter of compromise. I, frankly, don't see the problem here. Conservative Christians should be moving in droves to the Clinton camp.

Yes, Mr. Dobson, your group will have to continue it's fight on abortion. Reagan didn't do it for you, Bush one didn't, nor has Bush two. Perhaps it is time to change tactics and focus more on placing limits based on advances in medicine.

As hard as it may be mentally Mr. Dobson, it is time for Focus on the Family members to vote Democratic. It may be the only way to get "a seat at the table" with the new Democratic administration.

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nuanced — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:28:15 GMT

jerry, no need to decide now, there is still a year to go, just sit back, relax and enjoy the show. You might want to vote for the FOCUS-POTUS candidate when Dobson announces.

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nuanced — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:31:21 GMT

David Brody is dippy. Slavery is prohibited by the constitution while marriage is not mentioned. Big difference from a federal viewpoint.

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Dan Warner, Berwick, PA — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:41:23 GMT

For the record, and since it was left out of this article, Ron Paul raised 114% more than last quarter. ALL other republicans that have reported are on a severe downward slide.

Ron Paul did well because he is on a rocket ship trajectory of support, both in funding and in real boots on the ground.

The republican party needs to wake up right now and think about what they are doing. A pro-war platform is a loosing one. But does it really matter if a republican or a democrat wins when they are all the same really?

Ron Paul is different. He is different enough to win in my opinion.

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GAB, Austin, TX — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:53:46 GMT

I dont think you have any choice Jerry, you would never vote for anything but a straight white protestant man anyway!

I hope Focus does run their own candidate, that just means its splits the Republican vote

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Nash — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:00:52 GMT

Conservatives don't like Huckabee because he isn't conservative. At least not fiscally. You'd be hard pressed to find a tax and spend government program that he doesn't like.

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Nicholas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:10:04 GMT

Thank you Nash.

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nuanced — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:22:44 GMT

So Nash, do conservative prefer borrow and spend?

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AOWaytogoOhio — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:26:50 GMT

GAB, Jerry will only vote for an IN THE CLOSET (supposedly)straight white republican male protestant, you meant to say.

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who cares, honolulu, ha. — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 16:44:06 GMT

That's the best thing about Guiliani... Republicans hate him only SLIGHTLY less than Hialry, which will of course coerce the crazy Evangelicals into voting for a 3rd party; if crazy Republicans like Guiliani can't even keep their own fanatic crazy fanbase happy, then it's looking like a really good year come 2008.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:09:01 GMT

If Hillary is so smart, she would have caught Bill and Monica in the oval office.

Also, if Media Matters was founded by David Brock, why did she say she founded it while speaking to the DailyKOS convention? Not a bright woman I must admit.

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jjg, ms — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:11:06 GMT

Notice how jerry took an R issue and quickly spun it onto a D? We will never catch jerry actually giving mindful and reasoned thoughts about his own candidates.

jerry rove.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:12:37 GMT

I must admit, Rudy has a lot to talk about when it comes to family values......

Pales in comparison when you talk about the Clinton's
The Osbournes have better family values then the Clinton's.

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Nicholas, Minneaps, MN — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:24:32 GMT

Nuanced, you are very good. A little to the left, but very good.

I think you hit upon something very key to republicans. They sign these no new taxes pledges that back them into a corner. For instance, the Governor of my state Tim Pawlenty, who is a good man, introduced a "FEE," as opposed to a tax when he needed to. But much more, it seems like republicans try to hide taxes. For instance, in Minnesota, education wasn't funded this past year, so some absurd number of districts have to ask for local property tax referendum. The republicans likewise look good on taxes, but people wind up paying them anyway. Or President Bush's borrowing money to pay for the stupid Iraq War. That's just not fiscally responsible. At least democrats say an issue is important and pay for it up front. I guess the repubs can't take the honesty.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:44:07 GMT

GAB:

I'd vote for Abama and gravel......

those are the only two choices the democrats really have anyway.

Hillary would never ask Obama to be VP
She needs someone who is as crooked as she is.....
Maybe Tom Harkin, he can thrill people about his exploits as a fighter pilot over North Vietnam.

Then we can call their ticket LIAR LIAR

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bb — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:57:46 GMT

Rudy is a crossdressing GOP frontrunner. I love it. Unearth those pics of him again. WOOO WEEE!!Lets see Rudy dressed as an old lady again!!

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REG; East Valley Phx. AZ — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 17:59:40 GMT

Whether it is a priest, the Pope, an Evangelistic Christian leader, Osama bin Laden or any cleric it doesn’t really matter. Whenever anyone with a myopic focus on a limited set of criteria uses their position of influence to advocate others follow their decisions in politics, there is a significant reason for real concern. As if al Qaeda isn’t enough proof, consider George W. Bush and the support he has manipulated from the Evangelistic Christians. I won’t fault their sincere concern for honest issues but there is a ‘blindness’ that is a drastic problem. First, it should be recognized that while a sociopathic personality is quite capable of impressively faking most anything they are literally incapable of being sincerely concerned for others, are totally self-indulgent, are without a conscience, have no guilt, will do/say whatever without hesitation, are grossly dishonest and just can’t possibly be a sincere Christian. The support given George W. Bush was based mainly on the issues of stem cell ethics, marriage sanctity and opposition to abortion rights. To date Bush has responded with appointing a couple conservative judges, a veto of a stem cell bill, a lot of rhetoric and some stroking of a few Christian leaders (which has cost him nothing) to keep them ‘in the fold’. Now in contrast, what has he and his administration done that would be considered non-Christian? Let us consider just a few very serious items like: ignoring the warnings before ‘9/11’ when the administration was focused on Iraq (3000 dead and costing billions of dollars); falsely justifying attacking Iraq which only benefited Special Interests and a select few (near 4000 Americans dead and 21000+ injured, 10s of thousands others killed and who knows how many injured, plus an estimated eventual trillion tax payers' dollars to be spent); prematurely pulling resources from Afghanistan to attack Iraq and allowing the Taliban and al Qaeda to regroup and continue (unknown additional deaths and costs, with much more to come); and the gross dishonesty and arrogant self-indulgence as documented in the partial list that follows (subtly constantly neglecting the average American). And for an insight into the Bush sociopathic personality, consider all of the failures experienced and the substantial costs incurred and then without once ever seeing any remorse, hearing an apology, seeing a change in the arrogant style or witnessing a change in the aggressive self-indulgent direction.
The ‘blindness’ is in being led by others who are egotistically consumed with attention to their possibly important but limited concerns while neglecting to objectively and conscientiously see and responsibly consider the total picture. Whether someone is a Bush supporter or a radical following bin Laden, the problem is the same. We are all challenged to simply do our own thinking and objectively come to our own decisions, ideally with our biases being set aside enough to avoid being manipulated. I am personally afraid the next time around (November 2008) it all may happen again, as there are a couple of candidates aggressively competing just for the right to take over from Bush and be the next ‘puppet’. And of course, there are those powerful and extremely wealthy few who are ready to do everything in their substantial power to back and support their chosen ‘puppet’, including to overtly and covertly manipulate public opinion again, to insure ‘more of the same’. Hopefully the individual voter is smarter this time around.

[The gross dishonesty of the Bush administration, fully backed by the Republican Party, is totally offensive and then their arrogance just ‘adds insult to injury’. Consider the following Bush administration’s positions (if you know the details, you know the boldness of the deception and then the arrogance in the repetition tells the real story): * tax cuts for the wealthy benefit the economy; * warnings before ‘9/11’ weren’t specific enough; * attacking Iraq was justified; * our troops needed to find WMD and to get Iraqi prisoners to confess; * there is a real coalition sharing the costs and casualties in the Iraq War; * the Iraq War didn’t take away from the effort and focus on the War on Terror in Afghanistan; * the Iraq War has always been part of the War on Terror; * importing American drugs back into the USA is unsafe; * Global Warming wasn’t a problem; * ‘private accounts’ will solve the Social Security problems; * policies benefiting ‘big money’ and encouraging the exportation of American jobs and taxes doesn’t hurt the average worker; * the growing deficit and balance of trade deficit aren’t problems affecting the economy; * energy companies need government incentives and tax breaks even though they are making humongous profits; * there isn’t any fault with giving no-bid contracts and favored treatment to Halliburton, the defense contractors and others; * turning our port security over to Dubai Ports wouldn’t be a problem; * the administration had no part in the disclosure of the CIA agent's identity; * the squelching of the ‘wiretapping without a court order’ story in an election year was done for security and not political reasons; * the heightened warnings of terrorists attacks before our elections and then disappearing afterward, wasn’t using government to manipulate public opinion; * Homeland Security has achieved significant advances and hasn’t wasted tax payers money; * America is safer and not actually worse off today because of the Bush administration’s actions * the administration’s response after hurricane Katrina wasn’t just apathetic at best; * Iraq hasn’t generated into a civil war; * by next summer bringing home less than the number of troops sent over in the surge is a reduction; * the Iraqis are making progress and not just pursuing their sectarian and individual interests; * the Bush administration fairly represents all of us and is not just focused on a private agenda benefiting Special Interests and a select few who are significant Bush supporters and who provide overt and covert public opinion manipulation; * even considering all of these things and the necessary contradiction of a sociopathic personality, President Bush is strong on Christian values; * the loss of international prestige, the costs of nearly 4,000 Americans dead, 21,000+ injured and the estimate that a trillion dollars will be spent is really justified even when 190,000 weapons disappear, $4 million a day in Iraqi oil money is diverted, Iraqi police readily fire on American soldiers, Iraqis are fighting Iraqis,,; * faulting the ‘moveon.org’ for their ‘General Betray-us’ ad wasn’t just the often used tactic of ‘aggressively attacking the critic to avoid answering the criticism’; * having the Bush sponsored seminar on Global Warming, with the agenda being to discuss concerns, then go home to think about everything and decide what you can do without anything being binding, is a responsible approach and not just camouflage for continuing to do nothing; * and on and on as these few items are only a small sampling.]

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Sunny, Tulsa — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:35:50 GMT

Jerry,
so what does Rudy have to talk about when it comes to family values?

No one is excusing Bill Clinton for his indiscretions in the White House, but since when is it our duty to judge? Are you without sin Jerry? I know I'm not.

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Liam SoCal — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 18:58:32 GMT

So, Jerry, I guess those rose-colored glasses only filter out bad Repugnicans? Sure, Hillary has her problems, and she's far from my first choice (fourth, actually, if you're asking), but better by far than the Repugnican front-runners. A potentially monomaniacal actor; a (9/11) mayor who is (9/11) using disaster to launch his (9/11) career, and who appointed a man with mob ties to be his police comissioner; a rich Massachussetts governor (you hate these guys when the Demos run them); and a so-called "maverick" who is backing Bush to the hilt. Oh, let's not forget that your entire panel consists of nine white guys, while the Demos are running four white guys, one black guy, one hispanic guy, one woman, and one crazy old guy. A much more accurate "cross-section" of the country...

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Jane, Southern Mississippi — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:53:17 GMT

Union Baby in Tennessee, for some reason I thought that Kerry's first wife had died. He was a widower when he married his second wife. What's wrong with a widower remarrying? I'm not trying to be argumentive, but I do believe this is correct.

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Tess — Thu, 04 Oct 2007 21:00:11 GMT

Honestly, I am so tired of govenment in every part of my life, what ever happened to liberty, freedom, and less government? The Democrats and the Republicans (with the exception of one) all make me sick.

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Troy — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 00:23:55 GMT

Ron Paul PLEASE GET RID OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE ALREADY

BEFORE THEY CAUSE OUR ECONOMY TO CRASH!!

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Bot, Springfield — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 01:21:10 GMT

John McCain, an unbaptized Baptist, had this to say on September 30th: “People are raising … concerns about Mitt Romney’s Mormonism, which some consider to be outside the Judeo-Christian tradition. I believe that the Mormon religion is a religion that I don't share, but I respect. More importantly, I've known so many people of the Mormon faith who have been so magnificent. I think that Governor Romney's religion should not, absolutely not, be a disqualifying factor when people consider his candidacy for President of the United States, absolutely not."

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Amy Blackburn, Blackshear, Georgia — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 04:29:06 GMT

As an "evangelical"(which only means tell the good news)Christian I am offended by there always being someone at the "Helm" of Christianity that is supposed to speak for us. My Christianity means that I have accepted Jesus dying for me on the cross and have a relationship with Him. I have a mind that can think about other things and make decisions for myself between me and my Lord without having a " James Dobson", Jerry Falwell or Bob Jones type telling me what to do with my vote. I like Fred Thompson and frankly I like the fact that he intends to keep his relationship with Jesus close to the vest. Remember the Pharisees? I feel after a long hard look at it, that I was used during the 2004 election soley for my faith. I would have voted for Bush anyway but looking back on in it. Karl Rove strategically planned to use us" evangelicals" based soley on our faith, knowing that it would get us passionate enough to work extra hard to see to it that Mr. Bush was re-elected & had us lathered up. In many ways it recreated the emotions sometimes felt during our worship services at church. I am reminded of Jesus going thru the temple where the "chrisitans" were selling and using it as a basic flea market. It is the only time I can think of that Jesus became visibly angry enough to get physical, turning tables over telling them that that was His fathers house of worship not the local garage sale. Mr. Dobson, I have admired Focus on the Family for years for it's purpose, the family. Please stop using it a a bully pulpit for telling who the rest of the flock should vote for. We can pray and ask for guidance the same way you can. The last time I looked Jesus' # was the same. I respect whatever choice you make but for the major Chrisitan organizations to continue to come out with tablets on high that we are all to follow it belittles Christ and having a personal relationship with Him. One where he talks with each one of His sheep and guides them, just like He guides you. I think this continous reference to what the Large Evangelical Organizations announce what they will do, before you even really know all the facts, is what drives people that don't know Christ away, therefore doing the opposite of our role, " Go ye into all the world and tell the Good News...." In doing some research on Mr. Thompson, I find he is the only announced candidate that I think you would be able to get behind. He is pro life. He is for marriage being between a man and woman. He is a Christian, that includes a salvation experience with Jesus, a national security hawk and family man. The other two front runner candidates have issues that you have said you would vote for a 3rd party if they became the nominee. I love Mike Huckabee, but we all know short of a divine intervention, financially, he doesn't have a chance. He would be good vice presidential material for Mr. Thompson. Hey that is a thought!!!. OK my sermon is over but I wanted people to know that just because we call ourselves by the name of Christ doesn't mean we all agree with those that Christ has blessed with Large orgnazitions that can throw their weight around BEFORE THEY HAVE ALL THE FACTS!!!
thanks for listening.

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Utahreb, Veyo, UT — Fri, 05 Oct 2007 14:02:38 GMT

We have seen what a "Christian conservative" has done to our country - yes, TO our country and not FOR our country in the last 7 years. Do I want another one? Right - like I want a poke in the eye with a dull stick!

"Moral values" - "family values" - what jokes these rallying cries have become. More corruption in govenment, more torture, more debt, more big government, invading a sovereign country based on lies, almost 4,000 military killed and thousands more wounded with no proper care once they come home, more children without health insurance, thousands of illegal aliens in our country, bankruptcies and foreclosures on the rise - is that enough conservatism or do you want more?