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Buncha Poofters — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:26:40 GMT

So - the "Family Research Council" cheers for war. Must be other peoples' families doing the fighting, ergo it was a bunch of Republicans.

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nuanced — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:54:50 GMT

Applauding war. Such sick family values. I'd like to know how such a un-Christian group was selected. How many were in attendance, where were they from, who did they represent?

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Ruth, New York, New York — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:55:44 GMT

Thanks for a good summary, and reminding me that Ron Paul is actually a social conservative. As a Democrat who is anti-war, it has been tempting to think of Ron Paul as someone I could vote for, but I get reminded (thankfully) that he really is against a woman's right to choose, for pushing right-wing "Christian values" on everyone, and so on.

And of course, there are strong democratic candidates who have been consistently anti-war as well, so I guess I don't need to consider Paul anyway.

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nuanced — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:59:53 GMT

I think Ron Paul is barking up the wrong tree. We have lost far more sovereignty involutarily to multi-national, trans-national mega-corporations than to all of those voluntary clubs combined. Interesting that he possibly forgot to mention NATO.

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Dave, Olympia, WA — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:01:55 GMT

I just watched Chuck Todd on Hardball and Chris Matthews asked him which Republican candidate would drop out next and Todd went through the list of "tiers" by candidate and didn't even bother to mention Ron Paul. He couldn't even classify Paul as a long shot or bottom-tier candidate, but mentions Hunter and Tancredo when they have a fraction of the support Ron Paul apparently has.

This comes after a previous article by Todd discussing a straw poll which Paul won, yet was hardly mentioned. Todd spent the whole article discussing why Romney lost. Chuck Todd needs to get his act together.

I am not really a Paul supporter, but I find his campaign interesting and I believe the media should be paying more attention to him.

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Gene — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:07:00 GMT

Phony christians. Mt. Zion is the new Saviour...and Rush Limbaugh/Sean Hannity the new preacher.

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Archiphage — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:08:37 GMT

Go ahead, Chuck Todd... try and 'narrow the field' as you just advocated on Hardball. We DARE you!
- one of those nutty Ron Paul supporters

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Mike, Hermosa Beach, CA — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:17:58 GMT

These supposed values voters have a poor understanding of social conservatism. A social conservative believes government's role in society is small in order to prevent upheaval and disruption of tradition.

A social liberal, by contrast, believes government can and should have a free hand (hence, liberal from liberty and the freedom to act) in engineering society or provoking rapid changes in it. Social liberals believe, for example, illegal immigration is okay.

Ron Paul is undoubtedly socially conservative.

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Alexa — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:26:20 GMT

Ron Paul is only pro-life on a personal level........ but he doesn't believe that the government can impose it's views on it's citizens........ so he will leave it up to the states..

So far he is my fav candidate...... and he hasn't folded on the Iraq issue like Hillary and Obama...

Let's not forget he was the only candidate besides Dennis Kucinich to vote aganist it......

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Lee in CA — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:41:20 GMT

I guess the deal is, as long as the war continues the right wing can say "We're still in charge," whether it's a disaster and a quagmire, or not.

(Really - give Ron Paul some ink. I'd think you'd love him - he's the only interesting Republican in a group hotly contesting for "Most Unqualified/Repulsive/Chicken Hawk-y.")

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Banana Kid — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 22:46:47 GMT

Ron Paul sounds like the name of a Rockstar more then the name of someone running for President

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Bruce, NV — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:07:20 GMT

Funny, all the hate.

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Stuart, Vancouver, WA — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:24:44 GMT

It's really obvious when these articles come out that the media is owned by all the same people.

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Tuck,Realityville,Kansas — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:30:36 GMT

ron paul, typical republican coward,warhawk, women hater,liar and pretender of being religion

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:53:19 GMT

"I am not really a Paul supporter, but I find his campaign interesting and I believe the media should be paying more attention to him."

Here here.

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Ian, Nashville, Tennessee — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:01:18 GMT

In response to Ruth from New York: I, too, am pro-choice. And a registered Republican. What Paul says is that laws regulating abortion should be left to the states, same as medical marijuana. I couldn't agree more. For too long have senators from rural Kansas been telling folks in LA what they can and can't do with their bodies. The sword swings nboth ways, as I don't see Congressman from New York knowing what's best for South Dakota ranchers. LET'S GIVE THE POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE! Ron Paul '08!!

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Rachel Farer, Newark, DE — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:01:42 GMT

Guiliani and Clinton preach fear. Guiliani preaches fear of terrorism, (though I've yet to see what he'd do about it besides make more empty threats.) Clinton preaches fear of what would happen if the government didn't take care of everyone and make all our decisions.

What happened to "Give me liberty or give me death?"

Ron Paul is the only major candidate who will reverse the present trend towards dictatorship. His ideas are not perfect, but let's talk about them instead of dismissing them. If the United States is to be a free country twenty years from now, we need Ron Paul or someone like him at or near the helm.

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Russel Lane, Dallas, Texas — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:15:43 GMT

Good for Ron Paul. It seems to me that not only is he the only candidate who has proven to really believe in and uphold the Constitution, but he may also be the most truly Christian. In my Bible, Jesus taught "Blessed are the peacemakers.." (Matthew 5:9)

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Rick, NC — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:24:28 GMT

I don't get the Ron Paul thing...he is as rightwing in this thinking as any of the other reprehensible candidates...he is against the war, good for him, but he is also against a lot of other things too...typical repuke...they are agin more than they are fer'

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John S. Alexander, Edinboro, PA — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:30:42 GMT

Well, applause for DUNCAN for mentioning the war, BIG DEAL, what are they supposed to do boo him, that would not support the troops, we must keep up moral with applause and jingoism. They will be dropping out like flies, the money is drying up as the monied people start looking at the front runners and decicing not to waste anymore money on the bottom feeders in the REBUMBLEKIN PARTY. The party of the elephant is so fractured that we my see a real sea change in the next few years, the libertarian side seems to be gaining ground as the theological right loses power. Dr, Paul understands, when the patient is very sick, extreme measures are in order.

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Jose Gonzalez, Las Vegas, Nv — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:53:34 GMT

All this comments are from the usual complainers, all talk and no new "ideas" to make things better. Bush "lied" is their call to arms. Well maybe he did maybe he didn't but the reality is that on 911 we lost more than 3000 inocent people who only where there to do their job. Impractial war? Loosing effort? Worthless sacrifice by our nation's finest? Have you even bothered to ask a real soldier who has been in the front lines if he belives it is a "worhtless sacrifice"? Most young man including my son joined the military soon after 911 beliving the cause was just and with the forethough that is better to fight them on their turf than let them kill more inocents in AMERICAN soil. My son and his friends still belive that it is all worth it, except for those politicians who have "betrayed" them, ( the armed forces). When politicians did run a war, we ended up with VIETNAM, a long long war, in which the sacrifice of all those young american lives did nothing for our military or for America. Vietman did not attack us, nor did they harbor terrorist whom would attack us at the first opportunity. Contrast that to the current War on Terror, a real war with no enemy in uniform, who hides among the inocent and among us to do hideous things not only to their own people but to any American and foreing personel they get their hands on. In the comfort of our own living rooms is easy to forget 911, and condemm our goverment for a blotch war. Just remember you are not facing the bombs or guns of a terrorist in this great nation of ours thanks to my son and his friends and countless other militry man and women who see the need for their SACRIFICE!

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jsu-milwaukee — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:18:47 GMT

Yes we must attack a candidate who is only for legal immigration, against killing ANY BABIES and does not want the constitution burned by the scum at the U.N.that are spending 1/2 their time putting our money in their Swiss bank accounts!!The yuppie trash have progressed well in their program to turn the U.S. into one of the HERD NATIONS!

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Monica, So CA — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 01:54:36 GMT

As a Democrat, when I first heard about Ron Paul and his wanting to end the occupation of Iraq, I was interested...until I found out more about him. I'd never vote for him due to his desire to deny me my right to decide for myself if and when I have a child. Yet, it's funny, this same "Libertarian" who wants government out of the lives of Americans wants government in the uterus of American women.

He has stated that he would abolish all social programs. His views on Medicaid, Medicare and other programs that help people like me, the disabled and poor who rely upon such programs to live was enough for me. That ended any thought of me even considering him.

As a doctor, he absolutely refuses to give care to patients who have Medicaid or Medicare. I would imagine if he was the only doctor who specialized in care that a Medi/Medi patient needed, it wouldn't matter. He would still refuse to give that person care just because the payment method is Medicaid/Medicare. To me that is despicable!

Plus he's pandering to the ultra right wing christians. Values voters, ha, more like hate/war mongers. Why don't they just call themselves what they really are vile hateful people who hate everyone except those who think like they do. The only thing these "religious leaders" value is how much money they will fleece from the gullible to fill their personal coffers. As for Mr. Paul, he is not the candidate for me and my family and I don't understand why some people are so gaga over him.

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Eric, Mesa Az. — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:11:21 GMT

Dr. Paul is a ball of fire in the change he proposes to effect, and he can think on his feet as opposed to other candidates who read from their scripts, because of their robot, status-quo agendas. That won't bring about the change the assault on America's identity we've incurred will require. It's time to bring jobs back home. I believe Dr. Paul would bring us to similiar time we had around the Kennedy administration. Things have been going south ever since to put it mildly.

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John, Boise, ID — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:12:08 GMT

Ron Paul has the highest family values of any of the candidates. He is the only Republican candidate that can beat Hillary. Evangelicals have been duped by the lame stream media. He is the only Republican with values that can be supported by the right and the left. Republican's with values should see this. It's like the siron near the rocks every time a candidate sings the Iraq war song. The ship is our country our families. We messed up big time lets bring our boys home. GO RON 2008 !

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Andrew, NJ — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:37:31 GMT

Monica you need to read more into Ron Paul than just the sound bytes you hear on TV. a) He does not feel the federal government should be the one dictating abortion issue. Republicans will eventually over turn Roe v Wade...do you want it to happen with abortion issue being left up to the states...or do you want to not have abortion be illegal throughout the whole country by a new amendment? If its states rights, California people with their loose morals can keep abortions. And the religious right people in Kansas can ban them.

2-He does not plan to just turn the switch off on medicare. I don't want to take up a lot of space...so I'll try being brief...a) medicare makes medicine too expensive for everyone. Yes you might get your medicine for free, but everyone else gets to pay 3 times the price. w/o medicare, the cost of medicine will go down. b) by abolishing the IRS, you'll get to keep 1/3 of your income. With all that extra cash, you'll be able to save $$$ to buy proper health insurance, and since everyone else will get 1/3 more cash, there'll be more charity.

3. He does not refuse care for medicare patients..he refuses to accept medicare. He treated those people for free, or for pennies on the dollar. You should know that no doctor is allowed to deny any treatment.

4. He is not pandering...he is the only politican who doesn't pander. Unlike the rest of them.

I'll tell you why so many people are so gaga for him. Because he is about personal responsibility and liberties. You have to take care of yourself, America IS the land of opportunity, you just have to know where to look. And with all the money he'll save by abolishing the IRS....every single working American will be able to do so and live much better than they do now. Ofcourse if you are a freeloader sucking on the goverment's teat...then of course his policies won't appeal to you. If you swing that way, then you can always vote for Clinton or one of the other Democrats who want to give away the farm.

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nuanced — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:57:29 GMT

Banana Kid, maybe you were thinking of Ru Paul?

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Larry White Elkview, WV — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 05:07:39 GMT

Monica, he did not refuse Medicare/medicaid patients, he refused medicare/medicaid payments. He either let them make payments or took less money rather than live off of a government program.

I am voting for him because he says what he believes, and he hasn't been bought by big corporatinos. He voted against the PAtriot act, and introduced legislation today repealing it all, the patriot act, domestic spying, Habeus Corpus, executive powers, all of it.

He takes a stand. For freedom, for liberty, for the rule of law.

If you're pro-choice and your candidate has to be pro-choice, then no, Dr Paul will not pander to you, he is pro life. He's an ob-gyn, so I understand his position. You will have a democratic congress that won't pass that kind of legislation thru anyway.

Hillary won't guarantee you troops out by the end of the first term, OBama won't, Edwards wont. Paul will. Paul voted against the Patriot Act, the Dem frontrunners all voted for legislation they weren't allowed to read.

Take a stand. This is the chance of a generation.

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Product of the past — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 06:04:03 GMT

Monica, you make that choice when you decide to have sexual intercourse.

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Julia Canton, OH — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 06:14:15 GMT

I really like Ron Paul's message and I believe he is the only candidate that is really honest, and I have checked the things they have voted on against what they say, and Ron Paul is the real deal. That we need someone like him at this crisis in our nation is absolute. Go, Ron Paul!

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Rafael, Miami.Fl — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:39:15 GMT

Ron Paul is right for 08. He is THE MOST consistent in thought and action amongst the candidates. Dr.Paul comes closest to understanding the true meaning of the founding of this nation. My Property rights are non-negotiable, but most republicans and democrats forget this.
I dont agree with his stand on Life vs. choice. A more consistent approach would be to not coerce Life people to pay for others abortions, by simply abolishing medicaid. I am Pro-Life but only for myself, I can not force others to be the same. I can only ask to not be forced to pay into any abortion.
I want the old " night-watchmen" the US government was initially intended of being. Not the paternal omni-potent apparatus it became.

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Richard Conrow — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 07:47:52 GMT

To Monica in Southern California,

As Dr. Paul stated, and this article so reflects, he has his own personal view on abortion. I do not entirely agree with him on that stance. To his credit, however, he believes it is not up to the Federal government to make that choice. That is a decision that is rightly left to the states (at least as our current Constitution is written)

Once the power to decide is put in the hands of the states, where the Constitution said it should be, I can guarantee you that I will do everything within my power to make sure that my state stays pro-choice.

As far as Medicaid and Medicare are concerned, I do not understand what makes you think the fact that you are disabled, or poor gives you the "Right" to make other people pay for things that you need. Would you advocate that people who are poor or disabled have the legal right to steal money from others in order to get what they want or need? I can't imagine that anyone would support the suggestion that the poor or needy are above the law. Yet you seem to believe that you are "entitled" to these programs that are paid for by taxpayers dollars (which are not GIVEN to the government - they are TAKEN from the people; by force if necessary), so I guess so long as the gun is not in your hand during the theft, that it's okay for the government to steal FOR you. The gun is in the Federal government's hand, not yours, so you consider yourself without blame and deserving of these ill-gotten gains.

Hate, War, Fear and Money-loving? Others in the party, perhaps, but not Dr. Paul.

If you don't like him, that's your right. We are still free enough in this country to decide for ourselves. I do, however, fear that if the Federal government grows much more, we may lose that choice as well.

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Thaddeus S. Kaczor, Jr. — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 08:39:46 GMT

Monica in So CA... You apparently need to stop listening to anti-Ron Paul propaganda and misinformation and READ his positions and voting record. He does NOT advocate taking away your right to decide on matters of your own body- he just wants THE GOVERNMENT not to decide for you- either PRO OR ANTI! His libertarian philosophy prevents ANYONE from imposing their beliefs on someone else. It should be the States and individual citizens that decide for themselves, not an unconstitutional imposition from the Federal Government.

And he has NEVER denied ANYONE care or treatment based on their ability to pay, especially if they are covered by mMedicare or Medicaid. He does, however REFUSE to accept medicaid or medicare funding on basic principles, but only refuses the fiunding- never the patient! How many doctors do you know principled enough to treat poor people for free?

As for social programs like aid for disabled, poor people and Social Security, the media REFUSES to report his steadfast belief that NO ONE be thrown out in the street! He has stated over and over that anyone dependent on these programs will be taken care of (but the biased media conveniently omits those statements!). He just wants to get the Federal Bureaucracy out of the social welfare business. Under a Ron Paul administration, no one will be kicked off Medicare, Social Security or any other program that truly serves the social needs of those that are unable to provide for themselves. He DOES advocate a change in the entitlement merry-go-round that KEEPS people in a cycle of poverty and unable to free themselves from government dependence, as well as a change in both funding and the basic structure of social welfare in this country. He feels, as many Americans do, that money is better spent, and more efficiently at a state level, where it is closer and more responsive and available to the people who need it. Imagine what the billions of dollars freed from the Washington bureaucracy could do to help the poor and needy of your state!

Don't accept what some talking head or 15-second soundbite tells you about Ron Paul. He has been misquoted, misrepresented and slandered every step of the way. Big media, Big government and their owners and agents HATE Ron Paul because he can't be bribed, bought off or silenced. THat makes him very dangerous to the status quo, and very appealing to the average poor and working man and women. How else can he keep getting re-elected in a majority Democrat and minority district in the poorest areas in East Texas? His own party tried to gerrymander him out of office, and he got even STRONGER! THat should tell you something. Read deeper and decide for yourself.

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BAS, Houston, Texas — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:02:05 GMT

Maybe if couples would consider the myriad of readily available and safe methods to avoid unwanted and irresponsible pregnancies they wouldn't have to make abortion a lithmus test in their choice of the country's leadership. It is much easier and more importantly responsible to do the adult thing before getting themselves in a situation where they have to play God with a human life. If you're adult enough to engage in sexual relations you should be responsible enough to prevent that situation if you are not financially or emotionally prepared to take the responsibility of creating life. I don't understand why people would want to spend their precious right of their vote based on planning to exercise lack of descretion in their adult decisions.

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Jennifer, TX — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:10:40 GMT

Monica, So CA might be unable to read. Before you start talking about something or someone you should do the proper research from several different sources. Maybe you only watch Fox news?

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Glenn, Michigan — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:10:41 GMT

"As for Mr. Paul, he is not the candidate for me and my family and I don't understand why some people are so gaga over him.
Perhaps it's because they actually listen to what he says and don't apply their own meanings to his words.
It's time for the sheep in America to wake up to the fleecing we've been taking all these years.
"Zeitgeist.com" has a very informative video that should be seen by all Americans, if you can spare the time away from you nap.

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ATS, Georgetown DC — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:19:53 GMT

Ron Paul. like any number before him, has been marginlaized by the media because he had the temerity to express a passing convern for the fate of the Palestinians).

A candidiate could be Solomonic on every issue, in addition to being charming in every way, yet the zealots (and cowards) in the US media would find a way to dismiss the message. Abe Foxman wieghed crushing Ron Paul or ignoring him, choosing the latter. The ADL felt "too visible" in the wake of this necon enterpsie in Iraq. They want to be silent but deadly about Iran.

Some have begun to express concern that public will someday soon wake up and assess blame for all this (wars included). Just imagine—"worrying" that the public will wake up!

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WDRussell, East Liverpool, Ohio — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:26:10 GMT

Well he is partially right. The feds should stay out of abortion. So should state and local governments. It is an issue between a woman and her doctor.

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leon houston — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:01:40 GMT

republicans hate America, middle class children and Gen Sanchez.

Ron Paul has stated by his voice that he wants to end all government programs such as social security and medicare. This was on c-span several months back.

His support is really limited to a large group of internet savvy bloggers. Every time msnbc runs a story these bloggers take over the site. He actually believes the government has no role in people's lives at all. nothing personal,I'm sure he is a lovely person just the facts.

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Tuck, Realiltyville, Kansas — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:04:56 GMT

right... laws reulating women should be left to the states, next it will be black people.

Ron Paul wants roe vrs wade overturned.
He believes the govt should control womens bodies...

unbelievable, states rights in the GOP is the right to control all but wealthy white males

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Warren, suttons Bay, MI — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:07:36 GMT

Ron Paul should not waste his time going after these hateful pro-war 'Christians' especially since doing so alienates the anti-war independents that he needs.
http://RonPaul.meetup.com

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Gene — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 13:37:43 GMT

Monica, a Hillary hack? Of course!...The only truthful statement you offered was Ron Paul was against the war. I suppose you are also dishwasher with a $1000 available for the Clinton campaign? Amazing.

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Bryan — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:10:21 GMT

Monica, you amaze me...along with the many others who share your love of abortion. I have a hard time believing the number one issue in determining a President can be whether or not he supports abortion, but since you bring it up I'd encourage you to do one thing...actually Google his speech (it's in three parts) and watch it.

He discussed his experience of walking into a room in the hospital when a baby was being aborted. The doctors were surprised the child came out alive and crying, weighing just over 2 lbs but fighting for its life. He looked on in disgust as the doctors placed the child into a trash can and waited for the cries to stop. That is as disgusting as partial-birth abortion...as Dr. Paul makes clear it is a major disconnect when a doctor is allowed to perform these procedures lawfully but a 17-year old who disposes of her new baby into a dumpster gets tried for murder.

Ron Paul advocates freedom and responsibility. If you are going to have sex you are likely to create a child...they go hand in hand. If you don't want a child but want to have sex have the personal responsibility to manage your sex life in such a manner that you don't get pregnant.

Considering his responsible view on so many other aspects (the war, national sovereignty, illegal immigration, taxes, monetary policy and foreign policy) it's a shame to toss ones support over one being to lazy to acquire birth control.

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Holly, Austin, Texas — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:25:51 GMT

To Monica-

If I've understood Ron Paul's statements correctly,as a Dr., Ron Paul never refused treatment to those w/ medicare/medicaid, he treated them free of cost. He doesn't want to take away our rights. He wants us to have more control at a local level for our own lives. There's a PBS interview shown on his youtube site that better describes his view. One of the problems is that Dr. Ron Paul doesn't always get the chance to clarify his principals, which then leads to misunderstandings and snap judgements. I think if you listened to what he actually said and not someone else paraphrasing his statements you might just change your mind.

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Bryan — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:36:02 GMT

BTW...MSNBC...your lack of real-time posting is real annoying. The idea here is to generate a discussion, or so I would have thought. Kinda though when it takes a couple hours to see the next comment...

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Tess, CA — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:43:05 GMT

Monica, So CA.

I personally am Gaga as you called it over Ron Paul because he stands for freedom. I live in California as well and I am so sick and tired of the government in my pocket and all the illegals in this state. Ron Paul has never said he would take your abortion right away from you, he is simply stating that it is not an issue the federal government should be deciding and should be dealt with at the state level. I personally do not believe abortion should be used as a form of birth control, your comment sounded like thats what abortion was. As a Doctor, Ron Paul did not accept Medical/Medicaid but would actually offer his patients a lower fee or not charge them at all, did you know that? I realize some folks have to depend on the government for support, but before we all start doing that, whatever happened to families taking care of each other? You don't see that much anymore do you? I have worked hard all my life and never once thought of receiving govenment assistance. When times were hard, I lived with less, and worked 2 jobs if I had to. I personally would go to family members for help before turning to the government. To me the sole purpose of the government is to protect our freedom and security, its not to financially support people with social programs. I would like to mention that I am a minority (hispanic), 3rd generation legally born in the United States of America. My family did it the right way, they did not sneak over borders, they paid the price to be here and did the paperwork to be here legally. Wake up America, be responsible for yourselves, be proud, vote for Ron Paul, he is our only chance. We need changes in this country, we need to change the way people think, and go back to the Constitution.

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Michael, Cape Coral, FL — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 14:55:53 GMT

No candidate is going to be perfect. The article above limits discussion to Ron Paul's most questionable issues. But like he said, getting rid of Medicare and Medicaid, if that can happen, would be done just like getting rid of the Federal Reserve - with the cooperation of Congress.
Hear this: RP is a man that will return power from the executive to the People (Congress). Regardless of his particular position, he first abides by the Constitution, which means no signing statements, no illegal wiretapping, restoration of Habeas Corpus.
The only value expressed by this meeting is the value of following this president over the cliff. They don't stand on any real values if they can overlook torture, indefinite imprisonment without a trial, attacking nations on dubious grounds and running this economy into the ground with incredible debt.
So some of RP's views are a little radical, but returning powers to the states returns it to the people. I think women should have the choice to terminate a pregnancy up to half way to term. Even though he's opposed to it, he's not evangelical - he doesn't force his view on others, like nearly all other candidates.

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Rich, Lafayette, In — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:06:22 GMT

The only one that stands a chance of winning the election and the Republicans won’t vote for him. He's about the only one that can pull in some Democratic votes as well.
Bottom line the top Republican candidates can not pull any democratic votes, Ron Paul appears to be the only one that can.

I guess we'll have to suffer threw Hillary since the majority of Republicans can’t seem to pull there heads out of there butts.

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Anna, Ithaca, NY — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 15:51:49 GMT

Monica, So CA: "He would still refuse to give that person care just because the payment method is Medicaid/Medicare. To me that is despicable!"

Please, get your facts straight. He never refused care to anyone. He would refuse payment through Medicaid/Medicare, but he would either work out a payment plan with the patient individually or just do the work for free.

From http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070930/NEWS01/709300331 :"As a doctor, he refused to accept government insurance such as Medicaid because, he said, 'I thought that was one stop too far.' If a patient couldn't afford treatment, 'I just took care of them.'"

Isn't that what real compassion should look like? Dr. Paul emphasizes personal liberty and responsibility, and he clearly shows that he practices what he preaches.

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Bryan — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:00:15 GMT

Back to Monica...you describe Ron Paul's advocating of removal of "social programs" as if it is a bad thing. (I prefer the word "entitlements", as it casts a better light on how the receipients of the "free money" seem to look upon it.)

Look closer and you discover the root issue is money...not the amount of it per se but the soundness of our currency. Ron is the only one addressing this issue by advocating a gradual withdrawl of fiat currency and moving towards sound money.

Since your money is now worth more than the 4 cents each dollar is currently worth you can buy more with it. Compound this with his desire to allow you to not pay income tax. If you are not paying income tax what are the chances you can properly afford your current lifestyle and have comprehensive insurance?

He has stated that anyone who is due to receive the benefits will get them, but he is also aware the barrel is going to run dry soon. Decades of politicians (Dems and Republicans alike) have postponed the payment of bills the will bankrupt this country, but the rising generation is becoming keenly aware of what a mess they are about to inherit. He is the only one I have heard address this issue directly and comprehensively.

For those who believe your tax dollars are actually doing anything read about the Grace Commission's report to President Reagan. It's a sobering statement of abuse that only Ron Paul seems to understand.

Socialism in its many forms always fails eventually. It's due to our willingness to support illeagal immigrants that they come here...and I can't fault them for doing so. Free healthcare, free education...there are banks who allow illegals to apply for an account without a SS number when we have to comply with the Patriot Act.

I don't think the man is perfect, far from it. But until you show me someone with better answers to these issues (and others) he has my vote.

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steve Lansing MI — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:19:28 GMT

Impractial war? Loosing effort? Worthless sacrifice by our nation's finest? Have you even bothered to ask a real soldier who has been in the front lines if he belives it is a "worhtless sacrifice"?

What kind of babble is this? Is your son in Iraq? What does Iraq have to do with 9-11? Have you ever read the 9-11 commission report? Did you know 15 of the 19 terrorists came from Saudia Arabia? Did you know the attack was planned and carried out from Saudia Arabia and Pakistan? WHY IS YOUR SON IN IRAQ? OUR SOLDIERS ARE DYING IN A WAR WE SHOULDN'T BE IN. THIS WAS AN INVASION OF A 3RD WORLD COUNTRY THAT HAS DONE NOTHING TO US! YOU TALK ABOUT TERRORISM, WHY DID WE INVADE A COUNTRY THAT DID NOT ATTACK US? WHY ARE MOST OF OUR BORDER PATROL NOW IN IRAQ INSTEAD OF GUARDING OUR OWN BORDERS? IF THE USA WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT TERRORISM WE WOULD SECURE OUR BORDERS FIRST AND PROTECT AMERICA. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP TO THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON.

ALL LIES, MORE LIES, STILL LYING!!!!

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Steve Lansing MI — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:24:53 GMT

As a doctor, he absolutely refuses to give care to patients who have Medicaid or Medicare. I would imagine if he was the only doctor who specialized in care that a Medi/Medi patient needed, it wouldn't matter. He would still refuse to give that person care just because the payment method is Medicaid/Medicare. To me that is despicable!

Here is another person that doesn't read so they don't know the facts.

He didn't say he would abolish it, he said he would take care of those that are in it and allow other to opt out if they choose too get out as well as social security.

Yes he doesn't take medicade or medicare so do you know what he would do for those patients? HE TREATED THEM FOR FREE! HE DIDN'T TURN ANYO9NE AWAY! You people need to learn to read and stop listening to the propaganda your being fed on a daily basis and learn the facts before you make yourselves look ignorant.

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Dary, Jacksonville, FL — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:25:22 GMT

>(Ron Paul's) desire to deny me my right to decide for myself if and when I have a child.

Ron Paul has no desire to deny you anything. Actually he wants to give you the power to make the decision rather than the federal government making it for you. Reproductive rights as an issue has split our country for long enough.

It is time to put this behind us. Returning the authority to the states does this. I think that this would contribute positively to civil discourse and debate on the presidential level. No more would we be divided over this issue while considering our presidential candidates. Republicans and Democrats have used this issue to divide us for far too long now.

Ron Paul being a strict constitutionalist would never attempt to impose his will or the will of the federal government on the states.

At the federal level, Ron Paul is neutral on the subject. He isn't for it in that he would support federal funding for abortion, and he isn't against it in that he would never support a federal ban.

The same would also apply to stem cell research, gay rights, drug prohibition, and many other decisive issues.

This is exactly how or system of government is supposed to work. We don't live in a one size fits all world.

>He has stated that he would abolish all social programs.

Actually, Ron Paul has stated that he would have no authority to do such thing. What he has said is that the welfare state has done nothing but hurt the cause of liberty and he would do what he could in order to wean us off dependency.

However, he has also repeatedly stated that he would do everything to honor the commitments made to the American people who are already dependent on the Federal government.

And once again Ron Paul would never oppose a states right to implement whatever social programs they consider worthy.

>he's pandering to the ultra right wing Christians.

Actually he stood up to the ultra right wing Christians. They want a federal ban on abortion and Ron Paul will have nothing to do with it. He also never wavered in he's anti-war stance with the Value Voters.

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nuanced — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:30:38 GMT

What happened to "Give me liberty or give me death?"
Rachel Farer, Newark, DE

--- Patrick Henry was hanged. He gave his life so that we can throw away the sacrifices of our founders and say "take my liberty, I fear death"

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MOSES HOLLYWOOD,FL — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 16:37:13 GMT

IF IT WASNT FOR WAR HITLER WOULD NOT HAVE KILLED 6 MILLION JEWS. .. HE WOULD HAVE KILLED ALL THE JEWS. I SUPPORT THE WAR IN IRAQ AND I SUPPORT BOMBING IRAN. WINSTON CHURCHILL WANTED TO PREEMPTIVELY STIKE HITLER BEFORE THE WAR STARTED. EVERYONE CALLLED HIM A WAR MONGOR. HE ENDED UP BEING RIGHT AND WW2 COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED

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Abused American — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:23:01 GMT

Wow- I'm surprised the media FINALLY got interested in Ron Paul. Better late than never!

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r white — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:26:34 GMT

comments from people from such socialist states like califoria, are proof that if you dont go along with their far left veiws, you are no good. they takethings out of context, exagerate, etc. abortion will allways be available for health issues, etc. but for anyoneto think of it as a good contracceptive i.e birth control, is an idiot! if you dont want to be pregnant, there are plenty of birth control items one can use. and msot are paid for by taxpayers! something that ron wants to limit. as far as medicaid/medicare, ron means "abusers" of the system. most people dont need welfare. they just prefere it to a lower-tier job. iftghey cant have the big nice hosue like a hard working neighbor, they jsut wont work! who sused to pick the vegtables? we did! ever see "the grapes of wrath"? thats the problem with illegal immigration! we have too many "welfare cases" who would rather take welfare,than get a available job. so. we suddenly "need" a bunch of illegals to do the "jobs americans dont want"! take away the social progams, and america will see to it that there are no jobs available to illegals! aer own socialist nuts are causing this immigration problem!used to be imigrants (legal ones), had to go thru health screening. no moer. now we have diseases re-appearing, that we ounce irradicated. paul is correct in the u.n thing. they are behind socialization of the world. yes. we need to tell them where to go. the governments job is to protect us from enemies, both foreighn and domestic. thats it. not to regulate every facet of our lives. we need less laws, not more. if we inforced the laws on the books, we would not have so many of our current problems. i havent voted for a democrate since clintons first term. the eal democrats are extint. they have been replaced by socialst/communists. why else would people like chavez,castro, and armadinijad endorce them?

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bob, pompton lakes, nj — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:45:12 GMT

Those right-wing Christians are only like sheep being led to the slaughter by those phony preachers who are tools of the government. People will only wake up when the US is no more. Then you will have gotten what you deserve. Americans cannot think for themselves. They have to be told. Many states are making it hard for independents to vote for Ron Paul. What are they afraid of.

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moshe kerr midland texas — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:47:21 GMT

As a person of duel citizenship, an American Jew living in Israel. I support Ron Paul's curtailing the money addiction on the Israeli economy, if he becomes President, hopefully - he's got my vote, we folks in Israel shall have to tighten our belts, and behave as an independent nation again. We shall not be alone, Egypt and Jordan will have to do the same. Israel shall now have to carry out a very active diplomacy to maintain our diplomatic relations with the countries in this region. When i was a student at Texas A&M i wrote an economics paper predicting the fall of the Soviet Union 8 years before it fell. The industrial military complex operates like a black hole, money thrown its way never returns back to the general economy. America's broke and the coming generations face a Social Security disaster of 1929 Depression proportions! Ron Paul says he want to start a transition towards addressing these long term problems. I'm 48 and i fully understand why the younger folk look to him with such hope.

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MOSES COUTURE, MIAMI, FL — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:05:09 GMT

DUNCAN HUNTER'S SON IS SERVING HIS FOURTH TOUR IN IRAQ... JUST SOME GOOD INFORMATION FOR ALL THE MIS-INFORMED DEMOCRATES SAYING REPUBLICANS SEND OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN TO WAR.

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MOSES COUTURE, MIAMI, FL — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:05:11 GMT

DUNCAN HUNTER'S SON IS SERVING HIS FOURTH TOUR IN IRAQ... JUST SOME GOOD INFORMATION FOR ALL THE MIS-INFORMED DEMOCRATES SAYING REPUBLICANS SEND OTHER PEOPLES CHILDREN TO WAR.

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Diana, Whitesburg, GA — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:28:31 GMT

Monica, Ron Paul did not refuse to treat patients recieving Government assistance.....He would refuse the money from the government..He delivered many babies to mothers who recieve Medicaid, some for no money, some at reduced rates and some with whom he worked out a payment schedule. He merely believes that the issue of abortion should be decided by individual states.....government CLOSER to the people is more RESPONSIVE to the people.
He has also returned a portion of his yearly office allowance as a Congressman to the Treasury and refuses participation in the VERY LUCRATIVE pension plan Congress has voted for it's members. Ron Paul truly believes in smaller government and lower taxes...every dollar that the government "gives" to one person, it must take from someone else!

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Steve A Jonesboro IN — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:44:32 GMT

"Hunter recieved a raucous round of applause for his support of the war". A truly sick, sorry bunch. I wonder how many of them are combat veterans?

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Dan Dinsmore San Diego,Ca — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 20:36:54 GMT

If Bush doesn't declare WW3 and make himself Emperor for life and we actually survive to vote in a country that still allows such un patroit expression.
We will need the Ron Paul in all of us to straighten what is left of what our Founding Fathers Intended to be about Life, Liberty and the persuit of Happiness.

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Tess, CA — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:08:16 GMT

Ron Paul gave a great speech. He has my vote and support.

Ron Paul for the win!!!!!!!!!

http://ronpaul2008.com

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justthesimpletruth — Sat, 20 Oct 2007 21:33:58 GMT

Ron Paul is a loser and always has been - his popularity among a certain fringe group of would-be
'strict' constructionists is equally mysterious. Another wolf in sheep's clothing - in order to prevail in Texas as he has, he'd have to be as right-wing in his essential politics as Rush Limbaugh. What he doesn't like as a Libertarian is governmental interference in the right to make money
without having to pay that damn nuisance tax. Away with the IRS!!!

Always the bottom line with these yokels.....

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EARL, Whitesburg, GA — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:36:59 GMT

This is for Monica's benefit...Ron Paul has performed many medical procedures for NO PAY whatsoever...He has done this because he does not want our hard working citizens to be forced to pay for others' medical care through Medicaid or whatever....BUT he DOES care for the patient, they sometimes pay whatever they can, and if they can't he has chosen to help them for no pay....He does not refuse to help patients, he helps them anyway, and simply doesn't get paid...You need to get a better understanding of this before you "fly off the handle".....just my humble opinion....

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Bob, Lubbock, Tx — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 04:11:26 GMT

He is Pro-Life from a doctor's stand point. however, he is against one solution for the vastly differing population of the united states. He would not impose his Pro-Life position upon you. Dr. Paul would like to see the states decide whether or not they will support the right to choose on a state by state basis rather than a one size fits all decision on topics as sensitive as abortion.

While it is true that he would like to see most social programs done away with, he also realizes that there would be a transition period where the people dependant on these programs would have to be taken care of.

Your comment about him refusing treatment for Medi/Medi patients is absolutely false. He said he wouldn't take them as payment. For those that could only pay with one of these government plans, he would just treat for free instead of taking payment.

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WDRussell, East Liverpool, Ohio — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:19:08 GMT

These loons don't want to hear from a real conservative. They want more phony Christian nationalists like the other Bush clones running.

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American Citizen, Everywhere, USA — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:51:24 GMT

I'm not sure about Ron Paul, but I'm damn sure about all the front runners. The question we should be asking is how to force the media to pay more attention to one of the few, if any candidates that won't finish our country off if elected. Think people, think. How do we force Mega-Media to give Paul his due.

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Ron Paul Fan, San Francisco — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 00:54:08 GMT

I think all these messages in support of Ron Paul are inspiring. Don't forget, the news networks may not want to recognize Ron Paul because he wants us out of Iraq, and they have had their best news ratings covering the war, much better than prewar (even the impeachment hearings didn't get the same ratings). In any event, it's fascinating that you can google Ron Paul and get 6.7 million hits. Do that to Giuliani and you get less than 2.5M. Do it for Hillary and you get about 5.8M. Why ignore this guy, he's a phenomenon.

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Walter Simons — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:52:02 GMT

As a registered republican since 1963, I can see only one choice for the GOP. Ron Paul.

Or-else there is Hillary.