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Marcus, Chicago — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:28:07 GMT

Fortunately for the country, there is no "national primary." If Clinton ends up splitting some of the early races with Obama (a more than distinct possibility), a lot of that inevitability the national press seems to like about her will vanish in a heartbeat. The only thing that really is "inevitable" will be new ethical scandals that pop up, as they always do about the Clintons.

As soon as Dem voters who support her figure out that she really IS the Republican party's secret weapon for winning in November, they'll begin looking for an alternative. Fortunately, there are several very capable candidates to pick from, none of whom owe their political careers to their wives.

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NotALemming — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:47:06 GMT

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Bee — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:59:16 GMT

Marcus,

You couldn't have said it better. I am brazing my self for Jannuary - Feb. I know she is not going to win the nomination but if she win i am just going to cut my loss and move on to 2012. I don't see my self voting for lesser of the two evil. I'd rather sit out.

A vote for Clinton is a vote for defeat. We all know that. At every junction in democratic party history, they've always voted for an establishment candidate that is bound to loose the independent voters. When are they going to learn their lesson?

I hope they wake up now before it is too late. I am sure the new democrats understand this problem.

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Bee — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:13:19 GMT

Here is an alternative that the democrats ignored.

When Governor Deval Patrick sent an e-mail to supporters last week announcing his endorsement of Senator Barack Obama of Illinois for president, he got 2,000 messages back offering help.

"That's what he needs," Patrick said in an interview yesterday. "That's what we want to help him bring to New Hampshire. That's what we want to try to inspire in Iowa and elsewhere by example."

That inspiration began last night as Patrick presided over a massive rally for Obama on Boston Common. The event was the culmination of a long courtship of Patrick's endorsement by both Obama, a close friend and kindred political spirit, and Senator Hillary Clinton of New York, whom Patrick knew even before he worked for her husband's administration.

At the rally, which Obama's campaign said drew 9,500 people, Patrick offered a forceful argument for Obama, casting the presidential election as one of historic proportions in which merely a change in party would be insufficient.

"We need a leader who is ready to call in our times for our service, and our sacrifice," Patrick said. "You see, this election is not just about who we want. It's about who we are. I want a president who understands that. I want Barack Obama."

The rally was the latest in a series of huge campaign events for Obama around the country, and it was something of a role reversal for the two men: In the heat of last year's governor's race, Obama headlined several large events for Patrick in Boston.

"I am grateful to Deval, because not only has he stood by me through thick and through thin, but also because he is somebody who has consistently stood for the kinds of politics that I believe in and you believe in and America believes in - the kind of politics that begins with the grass roots," Obama said.

Last night's event underscored the potential value of Patrick's support. Before Patrick and Obama spoke, field workers on Obama's campaign were recruiting people from the crowd to canvass in New Hampshire, even as early as this weekend. And in a measure of Obama's organizational strength, his Boston-area supporters have been receiving text messages, e-mails, and personal phone calls over the past several days urging them to come to the rally.

"I like his energy, I like his lack of being jaded," said Rebecca Devaney, a 28-year-old from Haverhill who works at a media company and says she is still deciding whom to support.

In the interview, Patrick said he sees parallels between Obama's candidacy and his own run for governor. Both he and Obama, Patrick said, faced conventional wisdom that said they could not win.

Patrick said that his specific role in Obama's campaign had not been defined, but that he would campaign as aggressively as he could. He said he recognized, however, that he could not help at the expense of his role as governor.

"I've got a job to do, and I and the rest of the Commonwealth, I think, are sensitive to my paying attention to that job first and foremost," he said.

Patrick insisted that backing Obama was not a choice against Clinton, whose husband tapped him in the 1990s to lead the Justice Department's Civil Rights Division.

"I love her. I think she's great. I think she's run a terrific campaign," Patrick said. "If she's the nominee, I'll work my - I'll work hard for her, and proudly."

He continued, "The decision is not without complexity. But the times are so unique. The challenges are so big."

Just as members of the "Greatest Generation" responded to epic challenges, Patrick said, so, too, must the next president.

"They responded to a call for service and sacrifice, and I think the depth and complexity of our challenges demands that again," he said. "And I think Barack is uniquely capable of making that claim."

Patrick also said it made little sense for Obama to go after Clinton more aggressively, as some supporters and analysts have said he needs to do.

"There's no point bloodying each other up," he said. "Part of the appeal of his campaign and his candidacy is that he is a different kind of candidate and not making all the conventional moves and following all the conventional advice."

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Marbw — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:17:57 GMT

Governor Deval Patrick's remarks about Senator Obama at the rally of 9,500 peeople last night: :

"For once, I want a campaign that’s not about the candidate, but about us.
Not about a resumé, but about character. Not about connections or convenience, but about conviction. Not about smearing the competition, but about lifting us all up. Not about the right and the left, but about right and wrong. Not about yesterday, but about tomorrow.
I don’t care whether the next president has experience in the White House. I care whether he understands life in your house.
I don’t care whether the next president has already met foreign heads of state. I care whether he knows something about how people live and think in distant cities and villages and can remember that our actions affect them, too.
I don’t care whether the next president is the first black president or the first woman president or the first whatever, to tell you the truth. I care that the next president has moral courage, a political backbone, the humility to admit what he doesn’t know, and the wisdom to learn from others."

This is what Americans are about. I agree

Obama08

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CitizenJ — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:23:08 GMT

Bee, Marcus,

I share your hope, but unfortunately, a significant percentage of Clinton's supporters are likely to follow her no matter what is exposed. They will claim conspiracy or fear of a female president or something of that nature. Think about it:

"Clinton has neutralized the political fallout from some of the most difficult moments of her eight years as first lady, with Democratic voters looking favorably on her failed effort to revamp healthcare and either supporting or having no opinion of her decision to remain loyal to an unfaithful husband, a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg poll shows."

So these are her "successes", or her "experience" in the '90s. We don't know about much else because the Clinton's won't let us see their papers. Yet this leads to a favorable opinion of her by her followers.

I doubt any new "scandal" will tear away a large amount of support.

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George,IA — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:31:40 GMT

Governor Patrick gave a rousing speech before the Boston crowd in addition, saying, “As a Democrat, I feel very proud that the field of Democratic contenders is so strong. Many are friends and colleagues with whom I have worked over the years. But frankly I believe the importance of this election transcends friendship and party. I believe we need unified, visionary leadership.”

Patrick’s endorsement is especially sweet for Obama given the governor’s ties to the Clintons, serving under Bill Clinton as head of the Justice Department’s civil rights division.

Patrick went on, “I don’t care whether the next president is the first black president or the first woman president or the first whatever…..What I care about is whether the next president has moral courage and a political backbone and the humility to admit what he doesn’t know and the wisdom to learn from others.”

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:35:54 GMT

As Hillary continues to step into more and more minefields as the campaign moves on, people will finally realize they want a president to fix whatever problems there are, not a President that has a Brittney Spears moment each and every day in the White House.

I've met Dennis Kucinich. believe me, if he saw UFO's his eyes told me they took up to the mothership for a planetary summit.

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Dot, Illinois — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:42:08 GMT

"with Democratic voters looking favorably on her failed effort to revamp healthcare...."

Would someone explain why in the name of heaven voters look favorably on a FAILED effort?
She gets credit for effort? How many other politicians would like the same treatment?

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--NSMSNBC — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:52:52 GMT

Having a formerly gay person running a ministry for homosexuals is like a former drug addict running a rehabilitation center. Maybe Craig will join the congregation ...

Obama has the bold, gutsy position to stand up for the American people. I LIKE THAT. But when it comes down to it, people are scared of change (often happy when it happens though), and Barack has to confront that too. He's a good man, full of sincerity, integrety and passion.

FirstRead or somebody else, maybe you know. I caught the tail end of something about Clinton, Bill that is on the radio this morning. I think he was in MN collecting donations for Hillary. Anyway, something about a conspiracy nut being dragged to his car. I'm sure the conspiracy if fabricated and ridiculous, but I'm curious as to what it is. Can somebody help me out?

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Lek — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:05:59 GMT

I stumble on a book yesterday about Obama. The book title is "Barack Obama an Improbable Quest". The book basically exposed how MSM, Republican, Left Wing Nut and Clinton machine are out to destroy is candidacy because he doesn't play by their rule.

The book even expose why the Republican pary want Hillary Clinton to be the nomniee. They like thier odds against the Clinton.

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Gooper Johnson, NYC — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:26:54 GMT

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:36:54 GMT

NSMSNBC:

I see nothing on Google.....

But i came across an interesting quote from Bill Clinton speaking to 5000 people at the university of Minnesota:

Former President Bill Clinton told a crowd of nearly 5,000 people at the University of Minnesota that the U.S. knows how to help other countries, and will be rewarded for its efforts.

Sure worked well with the Arabs......
rewarded us with bombings and attacks......

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:42:25 GMT

Biden was incensed: "I'm the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, the fifth most senior member of the Senate," he said. "How DARE the president tell me I can't walk on to a military base!" What was noteworthy about his remarks yesterday wasn't his passion against the war; rather it was that he delivered them to an audience mostly made up of medical students during a detailed health care policy rollout speech.

And people wonder why Joe Biden can't win?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:01:30 GMT

Hillary just steps into it.......

this is from MSNBC.com

By Jim Rutenberg

Updated: 2:00 a.m. PT Oct 24, 2007
WASHINGTON - Senator Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that the Bush-Cheney administration had engaged in a “power grab” and that she would consider relinquishing some of that executive power if she followed it into the White House.

“There were a lot of actions which they took that were clearly beyond any power the Congress would have granted, or that in my view that was inherent in the Constitution,” Mrs. Clinton said, in an interview posted on the Web site of The Guardian newspaper of Britain.

Asked whether a president could “actually give up some of this power in the name of constitutional principle,” Mrs. Clinton answered, “Absolutely.”

She did not provide specifics about which claims to power she would relinquish, adding, “That has to be part of the review that I undertake when I get to the White House.”

Making promises again Hillary?

"When I get to the White House"???????
you mean "If"

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Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:14:14 GMT

DM medical students are right to be concerned about the lack of care the Bush Administration has provided injured veterans. It is immoral, and Biden's right to be incensed.

Whether you support the war, or like me were always opposed to it, our country has a duty to our soldiers in Iraq, those injured in Iraq, and the families of those killed and injured in Iraq.

Biden wants to end the war, but until that can be accomplished (which won't be until after the next President is sworn in, and then it will depend on whose sworn in as President), Biden will fight to protect our soldiers in Iraq, those injured in Iraq, and the families of those killed.

Because Biden didn't allow political calculations direct his May war supplemental vote, unlike Clinton, Dodd, and Obama (who all voted for the first time against a war supplemental, after being criticized about voting for war funding in a debate). Four Iowa National Guardsman are alive today. Biden was able to get immediate funding for 18,000 MRAP vehicles, which reduce IED death by 80% in the war supplemental. If Biden had let a political calculation guide his vote the MRAP funding wouldn't have been in this bill, and four young Iowans would have died last week (according to the spokesman for the Iowa National Guard). As Biden said in May, and since then, when criticized for his vote, "there are some things worth losing elections over". That's the type of courage and leadership our country needs!

The Bush administration is refusing to provide an Iowa guard unit GI college benefits because they served 5 days shy of two years required to get those benefits.

They claim to support our troops! Biden has written to Bush to pressure him to reconsider, and I'm sure eventually the other candidates will follow his lead.

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bb — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:21:48 GMT

Jerry , your cracked. AND Hillary will be our next president. What will happen to you on election day? IMPLOSION!

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mikeeg,abdn,wa — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:33:46 GMT

The clinton years were one of the most prosperous for the middle class and America as a whole, 8 more years of that type leadership just might pay off all debts bush and repubs have run up.

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csh, IL — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:46:36 GMT

Jerry – The reason Hillary is in such a strong position to win the White House is because in 15 years in public life, she has NEVER had a “Brittney Moment”. She’s remained strong, calm, collected and poised in spite of all the garbage that Ken Starr and the right wing nuts have thrown at her.

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karlos — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:24:31 GMT

biden as the top of this story and as usual the comments are directed to the top 2 h&o. he demonstrated his passion for the troops who fight and disdain for bush and the war. yet even with his resolution he gets little or no credit for his straight talk and opposition to a war that's draining our economy and killing our troops. go figure what the voters value in this country when he sits in second tier and h&o bask in the headlines.

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Leslie, Georgia — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:39:49 GMT

Biden is the best candidate for the job. I don't know why the media persists in their "king-making" agenda with Obama and Clinton. Obama will not win the general election if he gets the nomination. Period. I hope I won't have to say "I told you so" after the general election, but I will if I have to. Idealism is a wonderful thing. I am still idealistic about lots of things. But the electability of the democratic nominee is not something I trust to idealism; it is too important that it be accomplished. Obama may win the nomination and the general in 2012, or better yet, 2016, if the democrats are lucky enough to win 2008. But they won't win the general with Obama in 2008, and I don't think they will win with Clinton. Regardless, it isn't worth losing the general election over. Would I like a woman president in the White House? You bet. Do I think she could do the job if she could get there? You bet. But the problem is "getting there". And for those of you who think that on election day the majority of this country, or the majority of the electoral college, is going to make the decision to turn the protection and the economic welfare of this country over to - and actually pull the lever, push the button, punch the hole, or touch the square on the screen for - a man who has been in national office for less than two years, and who has never run a State or a major city (not that I think running a city gives enough experience either, but at least it is an executive position of some body of people and geography), you are letting your idealism destroy our real opportunity at the White House.

Joe Biden can win. The Democratic base will vote for him; the independants will vote for him; and Republicans will vote for him. Better yet, you won't have people coming to the polls for just one purpose - to vote against him. You will get that with Clinton and to some extent with Obama.

If Obama or Clinton win the nomination, I will vote for them. But they won't win the general election. And I will be here to tell you "I told you so".

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:40:36 GMT

csh, IL writes......

She's remained strong,calm,collected and poised.....

I think George Stehanopoulos might have a problem with your conclusions.....

frontline: the clinton years: interviews: george stephanopoulos | PBSphoto of george stephanopoulos. As Communications Director of Clinton's 1992 ... And then all the sudden, Hillary starts to do this kind of impromptu press ...
www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/clinton/interviews/stephanopoulos.html - 20k - Cached - Similar pages

That interview paints a different Hillary Clinton.

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Leslie, Georgia — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 17:41:54 GMT

Karlos,

I couldn't have said it better myself.

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Dot, Illinois — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:48:19 GMT

Leslie, Georgia

You make some very good points. Biden has the experience and credentials needed to do the job. I once asked on this blog why his campaign hadn't gained more momentum and the response was "because he is a pompous a**." So, even though we voters want to believe that we vote strictly on the issues, I think in reality, other factors carry as much, if not more weight. Our feelings about a candidate that may often be difficult to define greatly affect our opinions.

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J.D. in California — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:11:52 GMT

Bla, bla, de blablabla.

As usual for the comments section... All the democratic candidates have good health care proposals. So what. It is congress that has the final say in writing the regulations and voting on them. The president yields a lot of influence and has the veto power. So, there will be NO HEALTH CARE bills if Rudy or the other repubs get elected. Personally I am not interested in the details of the particular proposals as they will all go through myriad changes once they reach congress. But, though I personally like Obama, I will happily mention that Biden's focus on catastrophic care is the most humane, and would help everyone, not just those currently affected by a major health issue. Biden, as a senator can promote his plan if we have a democrat in the white house. Otherwise it will be four more years of misery for millions of Americans, who cannot afford their health insurance or will not be able to afford the primiums as they continue to climb by 20%+ per year. Health insurance premiums have quadrupled under Bush. Yet brilliant Bee says:

"I don't see my self voting for lesser of the two evil. I'd rather sit out."

I'm not saying that you are stupid. Just very very very selfish.

JD

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karlos — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:41:40 GMT

dear dot. how can anyone question voting for a pompous a.. when the bush occupies the white house. he's that and arrogant to boot. while i fully admit biden does not have perfect communication skills or even close, his patriotism for america's best interests is unquestionable. he shoots straight and holds no=thing back,= bravo i say. he's the straight talk express of mccain in 2000 for the demos' a maverick who takes no prisoners.

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Elizabeth Sullivan, San Diego, CA — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:35:20 GMT

Look at the list of negatives with Hillary and compare those to Biden's negatives. Look at the list of Biden's accomplishments. Now look at HRC's. Look at Biden's experience. Look at Hillary's.

Biden should be the clear choice of any rational person.

All those Democrats who drank the Kool-Aid with regard to Hillary reminds me of all those A-holes who had "W" bumperstickers.

Let's not allow the lemmings to decide another election.

BIDEN/OBAMA 08
Today, Tomorrow, Together.

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Dot, Illinois — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:36:59 GMT

Karlos

I wasn't saying that Biden was pompous, that is what SOMEONE ANSWERED TO ME WHEN I ASKED WHAT WAS WRONG WITH SENATOR BIDEN. Frankly, I agree with all you say about him. My question is why he hasn't made more of an impact on voters and the point of my post was that voters don't always vote strictly on the issues of experience and qualifications.

Sorry if I didn't explain myself fully.

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karlos — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:24:33 GMT

dot i was really addressing the response to the fool who gave it to you. why biden doesn't get far is easy, his names not clinton and therefore vote by association or because of minority[female]gender and he's not a minority in a minority campaign. while i like h&o better than any gop they're not as qualified as biden especially in foreign affairs. while i appreciate o's position against war its now time to get out and biden leads in this area. when the dams already blown and the floods coming i want someone who knows how to sandbag and shove, not someone who can remind me he predicted the dam would blow. biden can shovel and bag and put more people on board with his resolution to avert further flooding. almost 4000 have died in this flood let biden dam the damn thing.

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Jael, downstate IL — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:34:35 GMT

I think one of the main reasons that Biden (and my other favorite, Richardson) have not been considered frontrunners in the campaign is because the main-stream media (including this site) continue to focus on MONEY. There is more space taken up by how much MONEY the candidates are accumulating rather than what their positions and ideas are. I fear that a nomination of Obama or Clinton will bring out all the misogynist and racist voters in this country. We need a nominee who can unite voters, not divide them. I think Biden, Richardson and Edwards have that potential, but I fear that unless we stop focusing on the MONEY, we will end up with a nominee that too many voters will vote against, just because of who they are.

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Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:37:58 GMT

Dot, Illinois

The person who wrote that Biden's pompous and arrogant was most likely a paid Hillary blogger. They never responded to requests for specifics. Don't worry Biden is doing very well on the ground. Last week our local newspaper (the states 2nd largest) published more letters to the editor in favor of Biden than any other candidate. Hillary was second, if you count the ones that were anti-Hillary (some were way out of line). If you only count the pro-Hillary letters she was tied with Richardson at 4th. Biden's the first candidate from any party nation wide to be endorsed by a newspaper.

With respect to your question "why he hasn't made more of an impact on voters and the point of my post was that voters don't always vote strictly on the issues of experience and qualifications." You're assuming based upon First read and TV news coverage, or from statistically flawed polls that Biden hasn't had more impact with voters. I understand the sentiment given you don't live in Iowa, but those of us on the ground see that Biden continues to pick up support. And having seen John Kerry written off in the fall of 2003 based upon meaningless national polls, and statistically flawed Iowa caucus polling, we don't let poll numbers, or media attention of their perceived nominee concern us. Have trust in Iowa Democratic caucus goers.

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Mark — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:03:34 GMT

Yes, I am an Obama supporter. The polls, MSM bias towards Hillary and Republicans over eager salivation on giving her the nod does not dampen my spirits one bit. I am recent political junkie. I think people that do not follow poltics closely will go with the brand name, Clinton. I hope not. As she, in my opinion is too polarizing to defeat a solid ticket of Guiliani and Huckabee. Guiliani can sew up the independant with his socially progressive platform and 9/11 resume while Huckabee can appease the conservative vote. Hillary does not have cross over appeal. I think Obama does and he does not have the dirt on him. I was overjoyed Obama entered the race as are bunch of people that are not being pulled. We'll see how it all turns out soon enough.

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James DiSalvatore, NY, NY — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 05:09:13 GMT

In these troubled and dire time we live in, Joe Biden, to me, encompasses all that we desperately need for our nation:

1) Intelligence
2) Experience in ALL phases of government
3) Strength
4) Respect from world leaders
5) Diplomacy
6) Command of issues
7) Solutions to problems that face our nation
8) Honesty
9) Integrity
10) Respect and trust from his peers
11) Respect and trust from the people who follow him

Joe Biden certainly meets ALL of the criteria above.

I pray and hope every day that Mr. & Mrs. America, the people of Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina know in their hearts, that if we lose Joe Biden, we'll have lost one of the best Presidents our nation will ever have.

Please watch a video I produced to show my support for Senator Biden. If you support him, please send the link below to family and friends, and ask them to do the same.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OtGCaqOdIJ4

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Pat Morrison, Easley, SC — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:37:15 GMT

I am an Independent. I am a devoted supporter of Sen. Biden. It is not hard to understand why people feel they would rather not vote at all than vote for HRC. I have come to feel that way. I refuse to let the media make decisions for me. I have compared the candidates in debates, political TV Programs, and editorials. Sen. Biden exceeds all candidates in both parties on all issues. He will have my vote-write-in-if necessary. I refuse to vote the "lesser of two evils" again!!

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Lisa, Plano, TX — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:18:15 GMT

I am a Biden supporter the whole way. He is the single best qualified candidate from either party to serve as President. No one else comes close!!! I am a diehard Democrat and my Mom is a diehard Republican and we both agree that Biden is the only one on either side who would serve this country well. He's got the wisdom, experience, and instincts to get the job done. I pray that Iowa will catapult his campaign and provide some needed momentum. I'm beginning to think there's a conspiracy within the MSM to focus on Hilarity, Obama, and Guiliana. I am particularly concerned with the power of the "Clinton machine." I loved Bill but Hilarity is not Bill. She would be so beholden to special interests from the day she would be sworn in.

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Mike, Watertown, MA — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:44:59 GMT

Nothing good will come of a Hillary nomination. She would most likely lose the general election. I know I would jump parties if McCain was still in the race. If she did get elected she would be so beholden to the special interest groups supporting her that nothing will get done until the next round of candidates come along in 4 years. Nothing good can come of this person coming out with the Democratic nomination. And we can not afford to make a mistake this time, there is way too much at stake.