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Sarah Taylor — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:51:41 GMT

Biden is a closet racist and he makes racist remarks consistently. He said that for a black man, Obama was clean and articulate now he is saying that schools with blacks do not perform well. He is just racist. Perhaps someone will educate and inform him that school performance is about socio-economic issues. Test scores in this country have alwasy directly correlated with the SES group of the child. The higher the income and education of the parent the higher the test scores. Doesn't have a darn thing to do with race except that there are lots of poor minorities in America due to the racial discrimination.

Biden's remarks perpetuate that racial discrimation.

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Dot, Illinois — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:52:34 GMT

Efforts in the United Nations to have a tough resolution against Iran passed were blocked by China and Russia. Will these two countries honor sanctions imposed by the US?

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Grace,NY — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:53:08 GMT

It was probably a good thing for Obama that Floyd Mayweather was a no-show at the Nevada-Obama event.

Bill Clinton was accused of rape...did it make it so...does he campaign with Hillary. He admitted adultry and perjury...so what. At least Obama is not married to the man.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:55:27 GMT

Chris Dodd must really be desperate to try a stunt like that....

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nuanced — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:57:44 GMT

"introduces John and Jesse, two barbers at Jim's barbershop in Winterset, Iowa, where the ad was shot." The campaign apologized and said, “It was not meant to sound like they were actually barbers who work at Jim's.”

OK, so explain to me what it WAS meant to sound like. That sounds more like a lame excuse rather than an apology.

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Abigal Glicee — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:59:35 GMT

What is the typo that the Des Moines register is calling out?
Surely it can't be the use of Democrats? After all, there were an awful lot of Democrats who voted for the amendment other than Hillary even if Biden and Dodd did not.

that story made no sense...nor did the snide remark about 'missing for obvious reasons' That reasoning is so stupid. It is like castigating someone for not bringing a water hose to a fire while ignoring the person who lit the match and started the fire.

Let's be reasonable, the person without the water hose would be very creditible in asserting the problem with the fire being started and pointing out that individuals problems.

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karlos — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:01:17 GMT

why is it when a candidate states fact that performance levels reflect percent of disadvantaged minorities attending he is negatively critiqued? biden didn't endorse the reality that exists he merely stated it and his education proposals would reduce the gap. if people fear him being on a natioal ticket because he speaks the truth and reality in america its their shortcoming not his. not telling the truth and slanting the facts got us bush and this war, you want to continue that style of politics?

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Hillary Hater America — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:03:57 GMT

its scares ya doesn't it MSNBC? a liberal going after Your choice, Hillary. Well get use to it, we will tell the truth about Hillary and not just hide the facts on her. She may be able to keep all her records locked up till after the election, but there are those that have the goods on her, She is justa warmed over Bush

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Dave, Tn — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:12:42 GMT

"Improving access to public and recreational lands, including support of an "Open Fields" program that encourages private landowners to let people hunt and fish on their land."

"Elizabeth Edwards says she is scared of the "rabid, rabid Republican" who owns property across the street from her Orange County home — and she doesn't want her kids going near the gun-toting neighbor."

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:26:26 GMT

I'm shocked Elizabeth Edwards even lives in a republican state. Why would she live in a state that President Bush won?????

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:35:02 GMT

Even more good news for Hillary Clinton.......

CORPUS CHRISTI — Sworn statements in a Zapata County lawsuit provide a view into the world and business dealings of Mauricio Celis, the embattled law firm operator accused of impersonating a lawyer and sheriff's deputy.

Those statements by Celis in May claim that he is, indeed, a sheriff's deputy, that he has the clearance and credentials to practice law in Mexico and that he has found legal means to operate a law firm in Texas.

Celis, a major donor to Democratic causes in South Texas and nationally, was relatively unknown to the public until a series of bizarre events thrust him into the limelight last month.

On Sept. 17, a nearly nude woman fled his Kings Crossing home and Celis, 35, appeared on the scene flashing a Duval County sheriff's badge, asking that the woman be turned over to him, according to police reports. Celis' law enforcement credentials expired in 2003.

This is from Caller.com.....

This guy is a Bundler for Hillary Clinton.......

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vanreuter, NY NY — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:35:38 GMT

While I don't support Biden, he isn't a racist. He may be a loose cannon, someone who doesn't have any filter between his brain and his mouth, but throwing around an appellation that serious should have more than saying, "clean", when the word he was reaching for was, "fresh" behind it.
A look at his long record in the senate is clear evidence of his liberal, pro-equality history.
he may be an obnoxious big-mouth sometimes, but while his mouth may make him a fool sometimes, his heart is in the right place.

Van

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Dot, Illinois — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:39:35 GMT

Seems to me that what Senator Biden was saying was that if children don't have equal access to health care, books, games, and other educational opportunities because their parents can't afford them, then those children come into the school system at a disadvantage. This has nothing whatsoever to do with race. Children who have access to books, read better than those who don't, etc. Poverty, not race, is the problem here.

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Scott, PA — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 14:55:23 GMT

Exactly Dot an Karlos. It's like it's better if don't talk about the real issue and if someone attempts to be so bold and honest...it is too much to take. This ignorance is spelled out in the 1st comment where they don't seem to recognize that the main issues with the race disparities ARE Socie-economic.

Biden seem sto be the only one dealing with these issues head on and with honesty.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:01:39 GMT

If Rudy had said that, he would be roasted over an open fire......

Anybody who reads what he says and doesn't come away thinking there is a touch of racism in the story is just fooling themselves.

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CJ — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:06:52 GMT

I'm inclined to think Biden is a small b bigot. Performance in school is not tied to race...it's related to community resources and family structure which HAPPENS to affect minorities..not because they are minorities. You go to any "poor" district regardless of race and you'll see the same results.

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Fred in Denver — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:37:28 GMT

I just love the over reaction of people. Al sharption is a classic example. The over reaction to Bidens assessment of less wealthy students is annother. the third greatist is percieving an insult of someone by bieng called "Clean"??? Dirty would be an insult. this is just a way of garnering hate and negative support using the race card. Biden said black, so what? he was just pointing out that there arent many black people in Iowa. sorry its a fact. so is the overall economic diffrence between races. get over it! and quit using race to bolster sliding poll numbers.

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doc,lewisville tx — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:41:12 GMT

After slogging through all of the haye mail,thinly disguised as political commentary,I am so sorry we can't re-elect Ronald Reagan or Harry Truman.Good luck America,until you destroy the money making political machine,our Government is owned by Wall street and special interests.Your vote means about as much as "The Check is in the Mail".You have my sympathies.

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Lyn, MD — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:43:21 GMT

Whenever Joe leaves the reservation ( foreign policy) he gets into a world of trouble.

As far as being a racit is concerned...which is worse a closet racist or terminaly (tone deaf) stupid. This comes from a person who wanted Joe to run in 2004

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Rufus Gibbons, DC — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:44:41 GMT

First Read you must be doing an even handed blog because you are being castigated by left right and moderate.

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George from Denver — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:47:37 GMT

Biden was just illustrating that Their aren't many "minorities" in Iowa. Sorry its a fact. The economic difference between races does perpetuate itself. Does only a Black or Chicano candidate get to point that out? Sad this is how the press pays attention to the best most experienced and qualified candidate in the field.

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Dot, Illinois — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:56:25 GMT

CJ: "I'm inclined to think Biden is a small bigot."

" What's most overwhelming about urban poverty is that it's so difficult to escape--it's so isolating and it's everywhere. If you are an African-American child unlucky enough to be born into one of these neighborhoods, you are most likely to start life hungry or malnurished. You are less likely to start with a father in your household, and if he is there, there's a fifty-fifty chance that he never finished high shcool and the same chance he doesn't have a job. Your school isn't likely to have the right books or the best teachers..." from a speech by Barack Obama

I don't think Senator Obama is a bigot, and I don't think Senator Biden is either.

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Rufus Gibbons, DC — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:39:53 GMT

Van I agree with you on Biden there is one other thing to say about him when he says something you know it is HIS words and not something a political hack wrote for him.

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Mary Ellen Gateley — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:47:36 GMT

Sarah Taylor: Biden is a closet racist? That's absurd. He was bringing to light and highlighting the very racial discrimination you accuse him of perpetuating. Sadly, his statements are true. We can't address discrimination if we allow these inequalities to continue to exist. We can't address discrimination if it's not politically acceptable to acknowledge it exists.

He's passionate about this issue - he marched for civil rights and entered politics in order to do what he could to help bring healing to our country.

Biden tells it like it is (which is what we keep saying we want in a President) which sometimes results in misunderstanding of his intent.
He's not a racist.

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Terry — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:17:56 GMT

No one reads or watches anything that msnbc does or says so really this artice is irrelevant.....ohh and Hillary doesn't have a prayer in this election

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Daniela, Los Angeles, CA — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:21:59 GMT

McClurkin has made appearances for the Clintons in the past -- why don't you report on that?!

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Gigu. Clifton — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 18:50:34 GMT

Why MSNBC always supports Clintons?

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Jillian, Chandler, Az — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 19:41:20 GMT

What exactly did Biden say that was wrong? Statistics prove that minorities score lower on tests and less graduate from High School.

Biden is willing to talk about it and do something about it. Why is this even an issue?????????????????

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Elizabeth Sullivan, San Diego, CA — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 21:20:16 GMT

For the last time:

Biden's grandmother had a saying, "Sharp as a tack, clean as a whistle."

That is the "clean" Biden was talking about. He was not commenting on the frequency or thoroughness of Obama's hygiene.

I must say, though, Obama is hot. And feel free to call me a sexist for that comment.

BIDEN/OBAMA 08
Today, Tomorrow, Together.

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Shelby — Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:01:47 GMT

Biden: 100% rating from NAACP last year, and consistently in the high 90's. Jerry in TX, the reason Rudy or any other Repub would have the worst assumed about an ambiguous statement like that is they have the record of shafting the less fortunate in favor of their corporate cronies, so if the shoe fits.... Whereas when Biden or anyone else with his record says something that sounds stupid, you just check the facts, see where they stand, see how they vote, and you realize, okay, the better interpretation makes sense. Yeah, Biden has a record of talking without a political correctness filter, but just check out his record and you know he's a good man.