Pelosi fires back at Bush

Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:24:00 GMT

What has Pelosi got to show for her tenure as Speaker, except to have made the Democrats in Congress as much of a laughing-stock as the Republicans?

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MK Rawlings — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:24:55 GMT

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Diane, Grand Blanc, MI — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:00 GMT

I have a great deal of respect for Nancy Pelosi, but in the same token, am disenchanted (to say the least) with all of congress. Last November the majority of Americans spoke and the congress is not listening. If you want to end this debacle and stop the bloodshed, there is one simple way to do it. Stop enabling this narcistic and idealogical who refers to himself as the decider by cutting the funding. No $, no war!!! It's very simple. Stop playing politics with our troops lives and bring back our National Guard to defend this country on our home soil. I have never been this disgusted in my whole life and hold most politicians in very low esteem. This system is definitely broken. The corruption is ghastly and in good conscience I can't fathom how any one of them can get a good night's sleep.

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Dave, Tn — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:27:28 GMT

Maybe you should have run real Liberals for those seats you picked up instead of conservatives. Of course you wouldn't have your job as speaker. Republicans got routed because they were acting too much like democrats with the spending not because the whole country suddenly has the Sad Fransicko state of mind.

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Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:34:40 GMT

BUSH HAS GONE OFF THE "DEEP END" IN LA LA LAND. AND YES HE SUCKS !

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SONIC/Corpus — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:35:19 GMT

Y'all feel better? Doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that the Democrats don't haev enough votes to ocerride a veto, but you guys are pissed at Democrats. Getted pissed at the stonewalling Republicans who still march in lockstep with the Decider. Thats why we are still in Iraq!
A good economy? You ARE delusional!

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nuanced — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:37:17 GMT

Reams of paper from senseless investigations
MK Rawlings

--- brace yourself if you are bothered now. The investigations have not even begun. There is so much wrong doing and corruption that it will take 10-15 years and hundreds of investigators to complete the job. Might as well start building the Bush wing of Leavenworth now. As for the money, it will be well spent.

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Lee in CA — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:39:32 GMT

"A new paradigm for peace in the middle east"?

I guess you could call perpetual war that, but you have to be a registered republican.

"A senseless investigation"

Nothing that sounds anything like the repugs from 1992 - 2000, but I agree - war crimes, torture, treasonously outing a covert agent in the WAR ON TERROR - all senless investigations, but again, you have to be a registered republican.

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HMT-MI — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:39:47 GMT

The only thing I detest about Pelosi is that she took impeachment off the table.By now we could probably had this corrupt buch on trial and squirming.Disgusting---never too late Miss Pelosi

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:47:25 GMT

So, Diane, they should just cut the funding, what, today? Not another cent, right? And the troops are stuck out in Iraq, with no way to get home, no supplies, etc.

So, Diane, how does that support the troops?

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Sierra, SF — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:50:36 GMT

Stop giving in to Bush, Nancy !!
Stop funding the war, Nancy !!

Add Schip funding to the Iraq funding bill !!
No Schip, no WAR !!

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PJ — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:52:10 GMT

"He stoops to a level that is beneath the office" of the president, she concluded.....she says that, but what does she do? Start impeachment? "a war without end..." but what does she do? Stop funding? blah blah blah political double talk from ALL OF EM. Its impossible to be a politician in the current system & not SUCK. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Peter, Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:54:24 GMT

MK Rawlings wrote, "A new paradigm for peace in the middle east.
A great economy
Safety from terrorists on our soil
Well funded health care for seniors and poor children
Lots of good jobs for people that want to work hard"

What universe are you living in fruitcake?

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PJ — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 18:54:30 GMT

Hey Bruce, NV...they CAN cut the funding & there IS money to bring em home...stop buying that garbage argument. Blame George Bush for this DISASTER.

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Devin Oakley, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:01:12 GMT

Nancy Pelosi needs to go somewhere and shut up. She shows just how ignorant she is. Her job is to forge relationships with the other side, not chastize constantly. If they dont come together it will always be a stalemate. I dont believe the country as a whole put Dems in power because they love them, I think some was just punishing the Repubs for acting like democrats. This country is majority to the right, I dont care how you twist polls, taht is the way it has always been. If the democrats have such a mandate and have so much backing, then why cant they get anything through. Clinton got a few things through with a Republican Congress. She is going to have to come off of that San Franisco attitude or she will find herself just another congresswoman again. BTW I am a Democrat but I dont care for her.

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:04:06 GMT

Dubya has Saddam, stuffed and holding a sign that says, "Got One of THESE, Poppy?", ready to display in his Libary. That in itself, should bring in them there 24 per cent who still worship him, plus a couple dozen freakos a week who don't.

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Rick, WS, NC — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:06:22 GMT

Here's the part I don't get...the rep congress confronted clinton and got stuff they wanted...these dimwit dems can't even keep their own people in line...thats why the dems will have a hard time convincing anyone they mean business...they don't

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A.Brocco, Albuquerque,NM — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:07:27 GMT

If the Dems. had enough votes to override Dubya's vindictive, shameful, destructive and dangerous vetos do you neocons really believe that we would have even half of the troops in Iraq that we now have? If the Dems. had enough votes to override Dumbyas vetos, do you honestly believe that he would be asking for BILLIONS of $$$ more to pour into that rat hole in Iraq?
Question for any conservative (democratic or republicrook)...What is your definition of "WE WON" in Iraq? Dumbya has already claimed: "Mission Accomplished." Why don't you believe him? Is it because he is a habitual liar?

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:18:22 GMT

Hey PJ...whose gonna make Bush bring them home? Are you? At this point, only an authorization from Congress can do that...and we have all seen the results of those attempts.

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R.Merrell — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:24:07 GMT

Congress holds the purse strings per that document Bush so detests, the Constitution. Congress should cut off the Executive branch from all further funds. Let Mr. Petulent operate his assumed feifdom out of pocket. Let him sit there and sign his little vetoes and signing statements while having no money with which to operate and manipulate. Ms. Pelosi is attempting to get this Congress and the country back to the rule of law rather than the rule of Bush. he clearly doesn't like to be challenged. He never met a bill he didn't like under his Republican rubber-stamp Congress. Now he talks of "compromise" but it's all talk. He's never been a leader, a president of all the people. He's been, and continues to be a disaster.

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MK Rawlings — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:27:39 GMT

What universe are you living in fruitcake?

So Petey-pie. What accomplishments can Ms. Pelosi put on her year end review? I guess she did also bring that message of peace to Syria from Israel. You know, the one that Israel had to deny giving the moment it crossed her lips. Then there was that nonbinding resolution condemning as genocide the killing of Armenians starting in 1915. That was helpful, it calmed things down in the Middle East.

Smog a little heavy in Pittsburgh today Petey?

See, this is the problem with the Bush haters. They don't believe that there actions have consquences. And the consequences of their actions this year have all been negative.

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Jan, Nashua, NH — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:30:44 GMT

George W. Bush:
~ Unending debt
~ Unending war
~ Unending intrusion into your privacy

Nancy Pelosi has been in control of the House for 10 months now; GWB has been in control of our nation for seven years.

She does not have a veto-proof majority.

And the Senate is split 49-49 D's and R's (not 51-49, which is what is most often reported)

That said, I vote for impeachment being the MAIN COURSE on the table.
And, yes, I will welcome more investigations into and accountability from The Worst President Ever, as a tasty sidedish.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:39:49 GMT

Disaster?

Yes, until about 6 months ago. Now, the tide is turning and Nancy and Senator Reid (D-MoveOn.org) want to cut and run. It's no surprise that if there were an election today, Reid would lose.

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John S. Alexander, Edinboro, PA — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:40:44 GMT

There is, never was, and never will be peace in the middle east, competing tribes, religions and the last area to support a feudal monarchy is not my kind of almost a democracy kind a place. The neo-con love fest envisioned by this administration has been the best fairy tale ever sold to the american public.
We are fooling ourselves if we believe that two oil men in the White House and Iraq are a coincidence. 100 dollars a barrel will be cheap if we let them create another broken oil supplier (IRAN), the price will skyrocket and the economies all over the world will tank big time! The oil industries will reap a last gluttonous amount of money before we run out of fossil fuels. That is also why Saudi Arabia is real nervous of the future, their leverage in the world will diminish and then they will have an uprising on their hands that will make the wars to spread the muslim religion seem like childs play. We must put more reaserch and development into of alternative energy, including nuclear, It is our future and it is the end of oil and the middle east hegemonies and we will gain new industries and cleaner environment to live in, we owe this to future generations and we can see that this is where we must go. lets do it, we don't need to save an old run out industry like oil, we did it with steel and we will do it in the end to oil.

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--NSMSNBC — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:41:26 GMT

I like Nancy Pelosi, I really do. She pretty consistently makes smart/wise decisions, rather than act as a left-wing reactionary. She knows which battles to pick. My main criticism of Pelosi relates to the war. The democrats need to come together and take a unified stance on these major issues, even if they can't get 60 or 67 to override a veto. The republicans are doing this, and they are getting what they want on issue after issue, amazing. I'm not sure that I place blame for the lack of unity on her though.

I can never understand the strategy of democrats belittling their top leaders. They attack Pelosi and who remembers "John Kerry is a douche, but I'll vote for him anyway." Compare that to the republicans who 30% still support Bush, and he's doing a TERRIBLE job. Now, that's devotion. Maybe the dems have some things to learn from the repubs.

Harry Reid on the other hand ...

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Mark Thieme — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:41:28 GMT

Pelosi is right on all points.

The Bush administration remains America's Nightmare.

There are no words for this abomination... no words.

Every American has a piece of the action, either by oblivion, omission, or outright support of this right-wing coup d'etat.

First in line, corporate masters, all their slaves, Republicans of all shades, spineless, ignorant, whorish, media, Congress, whiny, neutered, Democrats, people of faith, intellectuals, potheads and rednecks... about in that order...

Where have the prophets been? Selling favor, of course.
Business is business... and K Street pays well.

As Janis said just before she ODed that one last time, "Get it while you can..."

That she did.

Hand over heart now, let us stand for our National Anthem:

"Oh Lord, won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz, my friends all drive Porsches, I must make amends..."

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Justin, Gainesville FL — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:42:37 GMT

If Pelosi were actually willing to support meaningful investigations and movement toward Impeachment I might begin to care what she has to say. Until then she's as much a part of the Bush Administration as any of his lick-spittles as far as I'm concerned, and can be ignored.

She and Reid both have turned a blind eye and a deaf ear to the change demanded by the people in November 2006. She should be as ashamed of herself as Hillary should be for their continuing support of the Bush administration and its policies.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:43:47 GMT

PJ, will it be like when we bailed out of Saigon because the Congress cut off all of the money?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:44:52 GMT

You also have to say Nancy has given a good home to all the code pink broads that have been camping out in her gardens......

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FStLouis — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:45:49 GMT

Mk Rawlings, now that was THE funniest, most ridiculous statement I have ever read on First Read. Thanks for making me laugh out loud!woooooweeeee!!

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Paw Paw, NC — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:46:02 GMT

The Surge is working as comfrmed by these latest reports: We should send our Senators and Congressmen to fill the void I bet you would see a real effort then to end the Conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan!
Iraq postings are mandatory, Rice tells staff
Hundreds booed State policy, liken it to 'potential death sentence'“The secretary is going to send out a cable worldwide to people talking about this decision as well as encouraging people to serve in Iraq,”
"It's one thing if someone believes in what's going on over there and volunteers, but it's another thing to send someone over there on a forced assignment," Crotty said. "I'm sorry, but basically that's a potential death sentence and you know it. Who will raise our children if we are dead or seriously wounded?"
Army short on combat supply help, experts say
2,000 staff needed just for contracts, Pentagon panel warns in report the Pentagon said the Army "lacks the leadership and personnel (military and civilian) to provide sufficient contracting support." The Army has seen a 600 percent increase in workload and is dealing with more complex contracts, yet staffing has consistently declined or remained stagnant since 1990.

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Tommy — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:46:03 GMT

Well, much of the congress has tried to pass legislation, but the Republicans in congress, in the simple interest of voting harmoniously (who gives a crap if the rest of the country is telling them in the November 06 election they have been pulling this nation in the wrong direction) have obstructed much of it. Look at SCHIP: the original bill was a result of compromise between republicans and democrats in the senate. Even Senators from the President's own party say he simply doesn't understand the bill. I think he does, but he simply wants to help out his pals in the insurance industry by limiting the number covered under SCHIP. Apparently the President believes $1200 / month for private health insurance to be affordable by most in the middle class. For someone who has probably never had to worry about money for his entire life, this is completely understandable. His presidency will be remembered as one of the more shameful episodes in U.S. History. Too bad he has 14 months left in office. If he doesn't get us wound up in WWIII (his words) by the end of his tenure, it will be a miracle.

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Sierra, SF — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:48:18 GMT

Bruce, NV: '...What has Pelosi got to show for her tenure as Speaker, except to have made the Democrats in Congress as much of a laughing-stock as the Republicans?

Bruce, the crooked Republicans are out of poewr and Abramoff's hold over America has been broken.
Congress no longer turns a blind eye to the Bush regime's corruption.
Alberto gonzalez had to resign because Bush knew he couldn't get FISA with li'l Alberto

And it pissed off a lot of dumb ass Republicans, like you !!! ;-0

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Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:49:23 GMT

A NATIONAL SURVY HAS SHOWN THAT OVER 99.9% OF THE COUNTRY AGREES THAT "BUSH SUCKS".OVER 100% THINKS HE'S A IDIOT ! THIS INCLUDES ARE FRIENDS TO THE NORTH IN CANADA. NOT BAD AIGH !

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John Doe, The Peanut Gallery — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 19:57:22 GMT

George:

A new paradigm for peace in the middle east.
A great economy
Safety from terrorists on our soil
Well funded health care for seniors and poor children
Lots of good jobs for people that want to work hard

Nancy:

Minimum wage increase (whose value has been taxed away by local and state governments)
Reams of paper from senseless investigations
MK Rawlings (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:24 PM)

Allow me to bring your statement in line with reality.

George:

A new foreign policy predicated on endless and preemptive war.
An economy that is wonderful if you fall in the top 5% of Americans but not likely to be of much benefit if you are making less than $250,000.
An enduring (and mostly fabricated) sense of fear that the terrorists will one day attack us again.
A veto on health care for America's children and a ban on allowing the elderly to shop for prescription drug prices in Canada (or any other market that isn't completely dominated by US pharma)
Lots of pardons and sweet heart deals for CEOs that contribute to the GOP and political opperatives that are willing to take a fall for the Commander Guy.

Nancy:

An increase in the minimum wage that benefits many hard working Americans.
A committed fight for health care for America's children (and shame on the GOP for supporting that veto).
An expansion of student loan programs for Americans who want to better themselves.
Congress, finally, taking steps to restore the Constitution and prevent a unitary executive.
Investigations into governmental ethical lapses and general corruption.

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Independent, Texas — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:02:19 GMT

Let me get this straight. Ms. Impeachment-is-off-the-table-before-she-even-took-office Pelosi is saying she doesn't think Congress is doing well due to the Iraq war. Right?

First Read says "Yet Pelosi said that she, too, doesn't approve of the job that Congress is doing. She was asked why, despite recent efforts by Democrats to tout their accomplishments this year, Congress has such a low approval rating. You might say her answer was counterintuitive.

"I don't approve of Congress, because we haven't been effective in ending the war in Iraq," she said, adding that "if you asked me in a phone call" from a pollster, she would herself be counted in the disapproval column."

Well - here is what Ms. Pelosi said last month (note the part about ending the war. Leaders. Right.):

Comments would be superfluous. Sigh.

The Washington Post's Dana Milbank reports on a lunch for reporters where House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was surprisingly candid:

"Look," she said, the chicken breast on her plate untouched. "I had, for five months, people sitting outside my home, going into my garden in San Francisco, angering neighbors, hanging their clothes from trees, building all kinds of things--Buddhas? I don't know what they were--couches, sofas, chairs, permanent living facilities on my front sidewalk." Unsmilingly, she continued: "If they were poor and they were sleeping on my sidewalk, they would be arrested for loitering, but because they have 'Impeach Bush' across their chest, it's the First Amendment."

"We have to make responsible decisions in the Congress that are not driven by the dissatisfaction of anybody who wants the war to end tomorrow," Pelosi told the gathering at the Sofitel, arranged by the Christian Science Monitor. Though crediting activists for their "passion," Pelosi called it "a waste of time" for them to target Democrats. "They are advocates," she said. "We are leaders."

"What do you see as your greatest mistake?" asked one reporter. Pelosi smiled. "Why don't you tell me?" she proposed. She smiled again, then laughed. " 'Cause I think we're doing just great."

Source: (by way of WSJ Opinion Journal) Wash Post - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7100902006.html

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John Doe, The Peanut Gallery — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:06:39 GMT

"Maybe you should have run real Liberals for those seats you picked up instead of conservatives. Of course you wouldn't have your job as speaker. Republicans got routed because they were acting too much like democrats with the spending not because the whole country suddenly has the Sad Fransicko state of mind.
Dave, Tn (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:27 PM)"

Dave, the GOP is dying because people like you won't allow the moderate conservatives to exist as Republicans anymore. Has it never worried you that those conservatives with a D next to their names would have run as a Republican before Bush the Lesser took office? He has made it so that the only way to be a Republican is to be a complete right wing nutjob. And you sit around acting like it's a good thing while the country slowly votes your party out of existance. How funny will you find idiots like Coulter when your party is down to 40 Senators?

Remind me to thank you in November of 2008. We really couldn't have had the successes that we have had without people like you, Dave.

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Connie, Tn. — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:06:53 GMT

It is strange that Congress is getting a "bad rap" when Bush is vetoing everything they try to do. He never used his VETO powers once when the Republicians were spending all the money and getting this country in deep debt.

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FL — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:07:15 GMT

"What has Pelosi got to show for her tenure as Speaker, except to have made the Democrats in Congress as much of a laughing-stock as the Republicans?"

Well she raised the minimum wage for the first time in 10 years.

She passed all the recommendations of the 9/11 commission which the GOP could not do

She lowered the cost of financial aid so kids can attend college.

Just to name a few….

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TEC-Spring-Tx — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:08:10 GMT

Our Congress is an excellent example of why a democracy will never work in the Middle East. If we were as polarized as the people in Iraq, then democracy would not work here either. Congress would not or could not accomplish anything.

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Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:09:28 GMT

"Here's the part I don't get...the rep congress confronted clinton and got stuff they wanted."..

Not true…. Clinton had his way with Gingrich and the GOP. That’s why they lost seats in 98 after they pushed to far.

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--NSMSNBC — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:13:36 GMT

In today's polarized political climate, forging relationships with the other side is just not possible. The rift between the sides is too deep, and neither side is willing/able to compromise, and that cannot be blamed on Pelosi. Changing the political climate is best for the role of President, but this is not the thread to get into which candidate could best accomplish that and who is the most polarizing.

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Rick Lapin, Albuquerque, NM — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:13:49 GMT

Just a little food for thought:

How much of the original $9 billion dollars "unaccounted for" in Iraq would it take to buy the effective inaction of every member in both parties in both houses of Congress?

How about two-thirds of them?

Not rah-rah speeches in support of the war -- just continued funding?

How much of the $9 billion would be left after you did it? (I figure well over half, at the very least.)

'Course, this is just a useless, aimless hypothetical series of questions: We all know that each and every elected Representative of the People is fearless, incorruptible, and would never, EVER play politics with something as serious as a nationally ruinous war -- not even for, let's say, $5 million bucks. Or even 10. (That would put us at a mere $535,000,000 or so, which still leaves us plenty of that $9 billion to play with when it comes to The Hard Cases.)

S I wouldn't worry about it, I was you ...

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Frank "Grimey" Grimes, Springfield, USA — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:16:23 GMT

I keep seeing people throwing out approval numbers for President Bush that range from 22% - 25%. (Not just this thread, but others as well). The 3 most recent polls to come out are Quinnipiac (35%), Rasmussen (37%), and Fox News (35%). Now I know most of you will instantly throw out Fox News, but I can't see you throwing out all 3. In fact, 4 of the 5 polls released in the past 2 weeks show an approval rating of 35% or higher. (Quinn, Ras, Fox, and LA Times). Pew had it at 30%.

I'm not swiping at anyone here, but I am curious where these 22% and 24% numbers keep coming from.

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Adam Columbus OH — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:17:12 GMT

My $0.02,

There is one way, and one way only, for a congressional majority without veto-proof numbers to bring the troops home: cut the funding. While I want the troops out of this disaster as much as anyone, listen to Joe Biden on this. Cutting the funding means the troops run out of gas, food, and bullets. The troops will come home when we have a competent CINC in the White House to bring them home, not a minute before.

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Sierra, SF — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:20:26 GMT

Rick, WS, NC: '...Here's the part I don't get...the rep congress confronted clinton and got stuff they wanted...these dimwit dems can't even keep their own people in line...

Rick, the difference is that Bush is a REAL Republican. He won't compromise.

If you remember 'Slick Willie', he was Republican-light and he 'triangulated' his policies.

Clinton sold out the Democratic agenda
(see NAFTA, WTO, corporate welfare, telecommunications monopoly...)
So, if Bush wants to sell out his party like Clinton sold out the Democrats, we can probably do business.

Bush actually has a little more decency than Bill (or Hillary) Clinton....

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Adam Columbus OH — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:20:27 GMT

Bruce,

"Disaster?

Yes, until about 6 months ago."

So the violence in Iraq has settled down to January 2006 levels. Wonderful. You are aware, that barring extending deployments **again** this surge will come to an end next year? We do not have, and will not have barring a draft, enough troops to put this broken society back together again.

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Rick Lapin, Albuquerque, NM — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:21:25 GMT

Sorry -- 535 x 10,000,000 = 5,350,000,000; or well over half of that $9 billion.

Guess that invalidates my point!

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veda — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:22:26 GMT

Too bad the only people that like hitler err bush are the richest and are making money on dead soldiers and the others are the poverty stricken mind controled religious patsys that are coming home in boxes.

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Larry Craig — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:30:17 GMT

My question is is there a mens room in the White House?

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Linda Preston — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:32:10 GMT

WashPo story quote

"What do you see as your greatest mistake?" asked one reporter. Pelosi smiled. "Why don't you tell me?" she proposed. She smiled again, then laughed. " 'Cause I think we're doing just great."

The woman is certifiably nuts.

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--NSMSNBC — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:32:15 GMT

I cannot understand liberals and focus on impeachment. It's not like impeachment would force him out of office before Jan. '09. There is no denial from me that he is an absolutely TERRIBLE President. I despise what he has done to the office. He is shady, corrupt, ethically lax, but I don't see a solid crime to paint him with. Bluster all you want, but he never messed up like Nixon (R) or Clinton (D). And without that, it's just political theater.

Work on the positive end by getting somebody open, honest and able to unite the country in '09. That is what the democrats need to do with Bush. But the most partisan of democrats won't do that, they want revenge through a Bush-Cheney lite.

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Dan, Columbia, SC — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:35:13 GMT

I agree with Sierra, tie the SCHIP funding to the War funding request. Carrot for a carrot, stick for a stick. Squeeze the kings balls............

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totally bushed with politics — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:35:30 GMT

to her credit, pelosi is disappointed in her and congress' performance...and has the guts to say so. to her detriment, she and congress have not accomplished a thing. at least she has a semblemce of knowing what reality is.

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Karl Kampman — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:36:04 GMT

Mark T. writes: "Pelosi is right on all points.

The Bush administration remains America's Nightmare. "

You're just as whacked out as Pelosi. 11% approval. That tells you something. You obviously would be one of the groupies even if it was down to 1%.

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Robert E Eldridge, Jacksonville, FL — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:39:01 GMT

I believe that we might achieve peace and safety in our country by electing any Democrat to the White House while keeping the Congress, too.

Peace at any price is becoming 'comfortable' for me at last. I am a registered Republican (figuring this to be an Open Forum not restricted to just Democratic input, if you please).

Happy Days Again are just around the corner if we can only accept my premise of a 'clean sweep' for the Dems in November 2008. All the 'hate' will cease except for the eternal investigations into the corrupt Bush administration which can be individually 'filtered' to keep the day 'bright and fair'under progressive Democratic rule. We've been 'citizens' for quite some time now as a nation and, perhaps, with the hugh challenges we now face as a society we might be better off as 'subjects.' Oh, as an aside I heard this the other day: "An armed man is a citizen and a disarmed man is a subject." (like that?)

Just think about it -Peace and Safety in Our Time.
Really, think about it.

Keeping Hillary out of the White House will only bring out the worst in all of us for another eight years.

Vote for Hillary for Peace and Safety.

A Republican vote for Hillary is a vote for Peace and Safety in our daily lives for eight glorious years!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:43:17 GMT

The only thing nancy pelosi can claim victory on was getting the minimum wage hike.....

However, the state and local governments saw all that extra money and raised taxes and the price of fuel went up and cost of food went up and now people are right back where they started at.

Nancy, selling your sould for 30 pieces of silver is never a good idea.....

I'm waiting for Pelosi V Sheenan to emerge.....
Should be a fight to the death.

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boo hoo — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 20:54:02 GMT

Looks like the world communist are going to have to wait.

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American Voter — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:02:53 GMT

The Speaker's inability to provide any coherent leadership is causing to lay blame anywhere she can. Personally, I prefer a do nothing House of Representatives.

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nuanced — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:04:31 GMT

Hey Bruce, NV...stop buying that garbage argument.
PJ (Sent Thursday, November 01, 2007 2:54 PM)

--- he's not buying, he is selling

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Nick A., Deerfield, IL — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:09:12 GMT

Someday, the masses will realize the ineffectiveness of congress has as much do with its rules/organization and is does with its leaders. If we want an effective congress, we need simpler procedures for passing bills, limiting attachments and reducing the power of committee chairman. The people's house is supposed to be run by the people, not the speaker and the whips. Motions to recommit, call the question, table, accept with unanimous consent and amend at the core of the rules of order for the house may be steeped in history, but their time has come to pass. No one would run a company or their house that way. Why should we run the legislative branch that way? Limit the changes to bills once they have been introduced and force negotiations on those bills between the parties prior to a bill's introduction. The system is to antequated to deal with our needs of governance and needs an update to provide the service we expect. I stopped using my Commodore 64 for my computer needs back in 1982 when I was 11 years old. Why use a 200+ year old parliamentary rule book to govern the process of making laws?

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John B, Des Moines, IA — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:11:42 GMT

Let me get this straight. Nancy Pelosi is responsible for the tax rates of all 50 states and tens of thousands of counties and munincipalities. jerry that's crazy even for you.

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Feed up! — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:14:40 GMT

She needs to go shack up with Dashl and she needs to take the sidekick idot Reid with her. They deserve each other, but America sure doesn't deserve them.

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Ron Newman, Richmond, KY. — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:22:19 GMT

The fearless leader of an 11% congress still trying to play politics instead of doing what the people wanted her and the rest of those elected in the last go around to do.
She, and Reid, and their cronies in congress better get thier act together very soon, or they just might all be turned out to pasture in the next election cycle, and rightly so!
The blame Bush for everything game is growing fairly weary with some of us. It's easy to talk a good game (Pelosi is great at this)but totally another to get the job done.
When the best the Democrats have to offer is a Clinton, and a bunch of excuses times are very bad indeed.

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Sanders Clause — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:36:32 GMT

[[Peace at any price is becoming 'comfortable' for me at last.]]

This is a major plank in the platform for the Democrats. Even if the price is that we have more attacks on our cities, the Democrats don't want to fight back.

Btw: How's your Arabic?

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Genie, Bedford, NH — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:48:06 GMT

Money for jobs, healthcare, and education - no more money for foreign occupation!! End the war now! Impeach Bush and Cheney - they are liars and cannot be trusted.

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JOHN CRIVARO — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 21:54:15 GMT

ALL YOU LIBERAL DEMOCRATS ARE FULL OF S_ _ T. ALL YOU HAVE DONE SINCE CONTROLLING CONGRESS HAS BEEN TO CRITICIZE AND BITCH ABOUT BUSH. YOU HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING POSITIVE SINCE TAKING OFFICE. WHEN THIS WAR IS WON, AND YOU COME OUT WITH MUD IN YOUR FACE, YOU WILL BE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD. AS FAR AS MS. PELOSI IS CONCERNED, I AM SAD TO SAY AS AN ITALIAN-AMERICAN AND A CATHOLIC I AM ASHAMED OF HER. I ONLY HOPE AND PRAY THAT HER AND ALL OF YOU LIBERALS WHO FAVOR KILLING UNBORN CHILDREN, WHILE WORRYING ABOUT SAVING THE WHALES, RECEIVE FORGIVNESS AND MERCY FROM GOD.

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Peter, Pittsburgh, PA — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:17:14 GMT

MK Rawlings wrote, "Then there was that nonbinding resolution condemning as genocide the killing of Armenians starting in 1915. That was helpful, it calmed things down in the Middle East."

Oh, I see, fruitcake, it's the Armenian genocide bill that stirred up the Middle East. It can't be your hero's assinine war in Iraq. No they welcomed us with roses didn't they? I guess you believe that Bushie Boy's actions have no consequences, or, fruitcake, do you believe that you can cut taxes and bring in more government revenue? Or, do you believe that it is wise to fund a war by borrowing oodles of money? Perhaps you think that global warming can be ignored because you expect to own beach-front property in the Ozarks.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:26:39 GMT

Quite impressed that it took this group almost the entire first page of comment before some BDS sufferer played the Nazi card.

Veda, you realize, I trust, that talk like that and the actions of code pink on moveon.org actually tend to belittle your cause?There are plenty of intelligent arguments that could be made, and have been made, without white-hot rhetoric. As I pointed out above, the formerly well-loved senior senator from NV has an approval rating in the 30s now because of his loose lips.

The 2008 elections are the Democrats to lose; and as I watch, it seems to me that is what they are going to do.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:28:45 GMT

Sierra: you forgot her most important contribution: Congress' approval is lower than the President's.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:29:46 GMT

JOhn Doe: the gop is dying because Bush is too conservative?

If you think Bush is conservative, you don't understand.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 22:32:23 GMT

Genie, you sure you don't live it brattleboro? How's the sensie in Bedford, dude?

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AMEN — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:03:09 GMT

Mark Theime - what did the potheads do?

JOHN CRIVARO- I DON'T THINK GOD HEARS YOU ANY BETTER WHEN YOU TYPE LIKE A PETULANT 13 YO GIRL, BUT I'LL BET IF YOU WENT TO IRAQ AND EXPLAINED YOUR POINT OF VIEW TO EVERYONE IT WOULD SOLVE EVERYTHING AND WE WOULD INDEED HAVE "MUD ON OUR FACES." HAVE A NICE TRIP AND WRITE IF YOU FIND WORK.

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Banana Kid — Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:32:37 GMT

One day Nancy Pelosi told President Bush Now Who's Your Mommy. I think it meant that Democrat Congeress will no longer give him a blank check. I think it means that a woman speaker of the house can tell the President no like the way a Mom can tell her son no.

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M.C.Andre — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:30:18 GMT

Has anyone but me wondered why Condoleezza Rice still retains her position as Sec. of state? Revolt among the State Department employees, the Blaclkstone fiasco, not one statesmanlike activity of any merit since her appointment, and she still hangs on Dubyas coat tails as one of the last remaining "loyal" Bushies.

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Pam the OC CA — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 00:44:48 GMT

Dear "Amen" I am still laughing as I type this. Thank you for the humor.

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Bart Smith, San Antonio, Texas — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:31:53 GMT

After reading many of the comments blogged here comparing the seven-year results of GW Bush and the 10-month tenure of Pelosi I have become frightened by the denial. There is no comparison of these two poliitcians. Even if Pelosi and her democratic cohort were to have done ZERO, it is far less damage than what GW has done to us. I don't see it as a Rep v. Dem issue. The Bush administration is a social cancer. This is the worst period in our national history (unless you're rich).

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TJB, Scottsdale — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:38:46 GMT

Too bad the noise of the wind whistling through her head drowns out anything she has to say...what an incompetent dunce

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MK Rawlings — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 01:39:04 GMT

Dear Petey/Sunshine - keep up up the good work. Morons like you are what is going to save the Republican party in 2008.

Democrats. No ideas, no common sense, and they have guys like petey-pooh on their side.

Go back to worshipping your sun god AlGore petey. He loves his adoring public. Be sure not to slip on your drool.

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Neal, New Market MD — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 03:55:41 GMT

Congress has low approval numbers because they do not want to get anything done in fear that it might make Bush look good. People see this and know the Dems are thinking of themselves more than others.

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John, abudhabi — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 09:33:25 GMT

You only talk, Democrats! You are the same as Bush, you have not any courage to see the facts that all of you faked these years, simply to benefit Israel. Your sons fight for Israel. Arabs hates Americans because of Israel and you are going to hurt only peoples in region that really love Americans. You have not even courage to went to Iran and see by yourself that what is really going on there.

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Rufus Gibbons, DC — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 10:31:42 GMT

The reason congress has not done anything is the roadblocking republicans in the senate. The only way they could end the war would be to cut off all funding and if they did that the republicans would win the next presidential election by saying over and over "THE DEMOCRATS DO NOT SUPPORT OUR TROOPS" the reason that the polls are low is because a great majority of the people do not know how our government works. They are the people who never watch a news show or read a newspaper but rely on what someone at the office told them they are sheep. I have republican friends that will not read Newsweek and the Washington Post or watch any news show other than Fox and they are as bad off as the other group.

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WDRussell, East Liverpool, Ohio — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:10:36 GMT

So George is mentally ill and invades Iraq for his own amusement. We already know that Nancy, so do something about it.

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John, Huntsville, AL — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:34:33 GMT

Larry (11/1/07, 4:30) -

Why do they need a men's room there? Seems when this administration needs to go, they just piss on the constitution and the American people. A men's room would be wasted space.

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Ryan Middleton Durham, NC — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:44:43 GMT

Pelosi: "I don't approve of Congress, because we haven't been effective in ending the war in Iraq," she said, adding that "if you asked me in a phone call" from a pollster, she would herself be counted in the disapproval column

Even Pelosi knows her leadership has been poor. Why doesn't she step down and let someone else have a run at getting this war to end? Pelosi has been a total failure as leader of the House.

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John S. Alexander,Edinboro, PA — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 12:53:09 GMT

Our reading material uses Caps and small letters for a reason, readability. People who use all caps want us to know they are mad and yelling at us. We get your point, you are mad but it is harder to read your post. Perhaps it is just another example of the unclarity of the rights positions, war without end, tax cuts for the people who already have lawyers who save them from paying their due, no economic program, playing up fear of a group of terrorists who are doing there damndest to keep us bottled up in fear and discension and the slow steady distruction of our civil rights to protect us from a group that has no army to invade our country. Terrorism will not destroy us, it is unable to do this and they know this, there plans are to create an environmet of fear and it shows that they have done a good job because people are suggesting we need to learn arabic and other nonsense. You have been punked by Osama, he has got you in his clutches, you cannot see reality because all you see is 911. We have been attacked on our soil before, 911 was not the first time. If you are afraid of Osama then you should want us to get him. Write to your man in the White House, all the decisions about this enemy have been made there, not in congress.

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Rufus Gibbons, DC — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:15:39 GMT

Dave Tn there you go again. but you are correct "Real liberals as you mean it" that is, conservatives believe women should remain barefoot and pregnant.

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Peter, Pittsburgh, PA — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 13:22:40 GMT

MK Rawlings wrote, "Dear Petey/Sunshine"

Sunshine? I'm preaching doom and gloom, fruitcake. What about the breakdown in consumer protection? Does the collapse of the housing market indicate a strong economy to you? Is the dramatic increase in the number of people without health insurance acceptable to you? Is the instability in Pakistan, a Muslim nation with atomic bombs and probably the residence of bin Laden, no concern of yours? And, how long are we supposed to ignore the deteriorating condition of our highways, bridges, dams, and other infrastructure? What dimension are you from?

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Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:00:42 GMT

MK sounds like a little girl to me. A spoiled, whiney one who hasn't gotten her way. Kinda like W. George is that you?

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Gary, Franklin, WI — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:14:34 GMT

I agree with Jan, Nashua, NH's brief and clear description of the facts.

I would only restate the description of the Senate to read:

And the Senate is split 49-49-2 D's, R's, and I's (Independents), with a de facto 50-50 split on most Iraq issues based upon how the I's vote.

P.S. to Larry Craig - The White House does have men's rooms (plural!) and VP Cheney will be happy to give you the nickel tour.

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Salita — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 14:33:11 GMT

Ok I think I have read enough to make a few comments:

1. Nancy has obnly been in office for 10 months. You cant reasonable expect her to turn the past 6 yrs of drunken spending by the republicans around in that short a period of time.

2. Someone comments that Bush has made us safe on our soil. HOW? The time frame between the first WTC boming and the second was 8 yrs. In between that time what was bin laden doing? PRACTICING. What is he doing NOW? PRACTICING! By my calender and watch Bin laden is right on schedule.

3. You can tell who on this message board failed Civic class. The Constitution vested the congress with the duty of OVERSIGHT of the executive branch. So u are mad because congress is doing its job.

4. You can cut off the funding for the war today. Troop withdrawel can ONLY be done by the President. How many of you think Bush would move the troops because they cut off funding? There is enough money in the pipeline that Bush could keep the troops there without the supplemental funding from the congress.

5. The congress is split almost evenly down the middle. Nancy is getting things passed on the house side. its the senate side with the problem. So Dems in order to really change policy they will need a filibuster proof senate and 2/3's in the house, or a Dem president. Looks like we might get all 3.

6. Impeaching Bush would mean nothing at this moment in time. You dont have the numbers in the senate to remove him from office. Why not wait until say Dec 2008 to impeach him? Add insult to injury as we snatch the white house from his party.

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Jo Jackson from South Dakota — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:45:08 GMT

I think a crucial point is being overlooked with regard to Congress' low approval rating. This Congress' rating is directly tied to the prez low ratings. Essentially, people are mad because Congress can not contain the power-mad man in the WH! Americans desperately want someone to stop the madness and so far Congress has been unable to do it -- mainly because of the Republicans in Congress who say the prez is wrong on many issues, but continue to back his play when it comes to a vote.

As far as those who commented that Pelosi should just shut up -- maybe she would if Bush does. She seems to only be responding to his petulant rhetoric over the past couple of weeks because he is upset that Congress is doing their job: OVERSIGHT. And if any executive branch occupant needed strict oversight, it's Bush. This admin legacy will be secrecy, expansion of executive powers, bypassing congress, and of course the Iraq debacle! Bush is a law unto himself and must be stopped --soon before we find ourselves in another war with Iran. He's got bombs and he by gollee seems to want to drop them (specifically on countries without them). What a hero!

Throw the bums out in '08. And Sierra: You're absolutely right - --A real republican won't compromise. That's the way to get things done for the whole country, all 300 million people with different interests -- No compromise, that's the ticket.

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nuanced — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 16:53:03 GMT

MK Rawlings, you don't work and play well with others do you. What was your conduct grade on your last report card?

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Bruce, NV — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 18:42:28 GMT

Nuanced, haven't you noticed that Ms. Rawlings is only responding to being attacked first. For the name you've chosen, you sure don't seem to pick up on nuances..

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Jael, downstate IL — Fri, 02 Nov 2007 20:44:30 GMT

to MK Rawlings: what???
A new paradigm for peace in the middle east. --- really means war without end and unlimited profits for contractors with no accountability.
A great economy. ---really means unlimited profits for contractors with no accountability, soaring gas and utility prices for the groups least able to afford it, and soaring health care costs for all but the most fortunate.
Safety from terrorists on our soil --- really means war without end and unlimited profits for contractors with no accountability.
Well funded health care for seniors and poor children --- really means MK doesn't know any sick elderly or poor people
Lots of good jobs for people that want to work hard --- really means MK doesn't know anyone who isn't independently wealthy or working a government job with great benefits

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Karen Downey, Murfreesboro, NC 27855 — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:10:39 GMT

YES! Please Impeach BUSH for God's sake! What the hell have we been waiting for? I am embarrassed to be an American. The Democrats are a bunch of WEENIES!
We need more parties, NO electoral college, one man one vote, real elections, no voter lists used for jury duty, and disconnect corporate control from government. Give me a reason to even VOTE, PLEASE! Maybe we should start another government on the side and ignore the broken, disfunctional one we think we are stuck with.

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lloydr,provo,utah — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:38:05 GMT

Remember Reagan? Waht happened to the GOP If we has another Reagan,This war would be over and there would also be no gas crisis.Remember what he did to the crisis of the 70's. He restored out world respect.We need a repeat badly!!!!!!!!!!

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lloydr,provo,utah — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:39:40 GMT

Bush needs to go!!!!!!

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lloydr,provo,utah — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:39:41 GMT

Bush needs to go!!!!!!