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diane — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:25:44 GMT

what many have forgotten or did not notice is that in a series of articles last spring the obama campaign said they would be keeping things low key until the fall sometime to keep Obama from peaking too early.
However I am not surprised by Hillary using alot of Obama's energy plan. It's been noticed by alot that Hillary likes to follow and copy Obama, when she is not doing so with Edwards policies.
another example of Clinton style behavior.
I should mention that yesterday 268 republicans in Iowa came out in support of Obama and will caucus for him. He has republicans defecting to his campaign. This shows a very electable candidate and again brings into question Hillary's.

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John S. Alexander, Edinboro, PA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:32:50 GMT

Any message on an issue is very hard to get out without the spin, we have bloviating heads who are paid to put down any idea not eminating from their own people, we have the independant talking heads, and we have the main media whos job is to rachet up the emotional aspect of any story, As our man in the White House continually says "THIS IS HARD WORK". Any candidate must do this though for us to evaluate if they are the ONE for us.
To bad some in the media see cutsy tootsy word play as intellectual discourse. Leave that to us bloggers we are the ones who are not getting paid so we should have more fun than you guys.
I want to thank first read for the news I do get, I have turned off all TV news except sunday politics and PBS. The three corporate infotainment industry giants have turned news into a "we're your buddies, trust us to tell you what is important" feel good love fest of the latest celebrity gossip and how to shampoo your dog stories, how pathetic. I do appreciate the chance to give my two cents worth also, the internet is a great forum, thanks!

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MK,MO — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:43:16 GMT

hillary clinton has not come up with one original plan on any of the issues important to americans, although she does lead the pack on illegal money laundering, and is quite the innovator in all things deceptive

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Anita, Washington, DC — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:46:19 GMT

I think it is funny that people spend time worrying about who has the plan first. Hillary has been working on healthcare for 15 years; she gave numerous speeches all year about healthcare -- reducing costs of paper, reducing waste; making medical records more efficient; encouraging choice etc. But somehow Edwards wants to take credit for having the first plan. Same with energy, we have been debating for years how to address energy and environmental issues. He can hardly claim that he pulled these ideas out of thin air on his own. Give me a break. I don't care who is first. I want to know who will get it done.

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Daniel, NY — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:53:40 GMT

Edwards is getting a lot of heat today for his own inconsistent and wavering answer to the illegal immigration question on which Clinton stumbled last week. Check it out: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/remember-remember-fifth-of-november.html

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 14:53:45 GMT

And don’t miss the fact that the Clinton campaign touts she consulted Al Gore on her plan.

Oh god, just what we need. Hillary quoting Gore when his lie encrusted film is being taken apart by all the experts. Will the American people go for paying $5 a gallon for gas and people in New England paying more and more for heating oil? I think not, with fuel prices skyrocketing and the liberals not allowing us to look for more oil around the country, it is a wonder how anybody would vote for Hillary Clinton and her lame energy policies. With ted (burp) Kennedy refusing to allow windmills on cape cod, I find it hard to believe that any liberal has a serious plan for dealing with so-called global warming.

It's bad enough she had to steal from Obama's energy plan, which proves she has no plan for anything. her debate answers last week showed she does not have a game plan for anything. She is just running because she is a woman.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:00:38 GMT

I think it is funny that people spend time worrying about who has the plan first. Hillary has been working on health care for 15 years;

Hillary got spanked worse then she did last week when she tried to ram rod health care down everybody's throat (thru her husband of course). Now she is coming back with a plan bought and paid for by lobbyists and with her stealing Obama;s ideas about energy plans, one has to wonder if she will be the president or will there just be a committee and she sits back and collects the checks?

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karlos — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:00:50 GMT

keep your CEO politics of the top tier, i want biden to get some traction based on the failure of any demo to have submitted a comprehensive exit strategy from iraq and to see the debacle of pakistan coming. he's dead on for both and you people don't even see the writing on the wall that the CEO's are playing politics and position infighting not addressing issues in a straight talk manner. lose the gender/race issue of being the first elected minority and focus on the meat of their campaigns. the debate had a joe leading the pack while they growled at each other between hillary's flip/flop.according to tv this a.m. 60% of americans support a gradual organized withdrawal from iraq with joe's plans hop on board his train and derail the minority bandwagon emphasis.the CEO'S SAY THEY WILL CROSS THE AISLE TO GET SUPPORT FOR CHANGE , BIDEN ALREADY DID ON THE MOST SERIOUS PROBLEM OF IRAQ WITH 75 VOTES.

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mad in Madtown — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:13:15 GMT

Biden/Feingold '08

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Larry, Toronto — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:19:17 GMT

Lookie here!!!!

www.copy-cat-hillary.com

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steve real, hollywood, CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:29:51 GMT

It's the Economy stupid!

The Liberals left the economy with a 100 billion dollar surplus,
a Nation at peace in the world,
and it cost .90 cents to buy a Euro.

After eight years of Conservative politics,
we are $10 trillion dollars in debt,
we have two wars on our hands,
and it cost a $1.44 to buy one Euro.

You got to hand it to the Liberals
they know how to run a business.

The Conservatives?
well...
they know how to run up
a hell of a credit card debt
and to trash the value of the dollar.
You can't trust the Conservatives
with your money.

They're too hung up on sex
and what's going on in their neighbor's bedroom
then to focus their attentions on the business of running a Nation.

It's the Economy stupid!

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Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:34:55 GMT

Way to go Joe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If HRC really was inevitable Biden couldn't pick up an endorsement in November! What this shows is what we see on the ground Joe is moving up, and is now the alternative to the "top tier", and let's face it, he's the only candidate who has gotten under Rudy's skin!

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Lee in CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:46:04 GMT

"The Washington Post wonders if the Democrats’ plans to combat global warming could end up being political liabilities."

So what? Then they'd be remembered as having failed in a nobel quest, but not for long because the problem is real and bi-partisan.

Jeeeerrrrrrryyyyyyyyy - why wouldn't someone consult the terrorist organization al-Gore on energy? Only the tin-hat club is denying he knows what he's talking about. So few of you still think having Chicken Dick and Ken Lay work out the details in secret was a good idea, but I'll tell you the same thing I told Fred Thompson: Don't you give up! Sooner or later that moon is going to bark back.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 15:55:01 GMT

I'm starting to think that Biden might actually be able to pull it off, which to me would be a best-case scenario. I like Hillary, I like Obama, I like Edwards...but ultimately, I think Biden is the most qualified and best-suited to be the next president. And by qualifications, I am not talking about years of service of how many bills he sponsored or anything like that, altough even by those standards he would be right up there. Biden's qualifications, to me, stem from the fact that he gets it. He gets Iraq, he gets the global picture in general, he gets the American people. He knows what he is talking about, and as someone else pointed out, it's rare in the debates that you hear people disagreeing with him. On the contrary, the other candidates frequently can be heard to say they agree with Joe.

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Dave, Tn — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:05:03 GMT

Give it up Jerry. They know Gore's movie is full of BS Lies, and they don't care. So a few million kids get the hell scared out of them for the sake of Socialist power. Not like hurting people with Lies is anything new to neo-commies. Just be happy knowing it's the fools in the north east that will pay the biggest price.

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Psychic Mary — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:37:11 GMT

The vision I have seen for awhile is very clear. We will have a female president. Hillary will be the next leader of this country.

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Psychic Mary — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:46:06 GMT

Our next president will be a female. It will happen.

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REG; East Valley Phx. AZ — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:52:59 GMT

To try and give some perspective lets look at recent history and contrast the ‘Best’ versus the ‘Worst’. What we see is that the consistency and thereby the meaning isn’t found in the issues or in their political identity but rather in their personal quality or lack thereof. So maybe all of our concern and back and forth bantering about the issues simply isn’t where we should be focused or where we should base our decision.

My chosen examples (replace with your own):
Best: Worst:

Truman GWBush (absolute worst)
Reagan Nixon
Kennedy* Johnson
(*excluding his womanizing which shouldn’t be excused)
+/- Qualities
+ -
honesty dishonesty
compassion arrogance
respectful belligerent
conscientious self-indulgence
some humility insatiable ego
sincerity deception
(expand as you see fit)

If we want whoever to make the right decisions about Iraq, Iran, foreign policy, domestic issues, consistency with Christian values or whatever, it may be best to just check our own biases and strongly weigh their integrity and character before we make our choice. This includes the need to make our own decisions and to not be led by others who have their biases/motives. We have vividly seen what we end up with when we allow ourselves to be manipulated and I don’t think we want ‘more of the same’.

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Bee — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:54:10 GMT

I'll take Biden to Hillary any day. Anything but Clinton

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Bee — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 16:59:55 GMT

Last week Bill Clinton said he read John Edward's Health care plan and Obama's energy plan.

After reading the plan, what did he do?

Copy them and change one or two languages and make it Hillary's plan. Am i suppose to credit Hillary's for being bold? The answer is No.

I am expecting Hillary Clinton to come out with her plan on Education, until then she doesn't deserve any credit. I guess she is waiting for Obama to come out first because she doesn't want to piss off the teachers' union.

Edward and Obama deserve credit for their boldness.

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Rob Boston — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:00:49 GMT

Combatting global warming is not a risky issue. The analysis you cited is bogus or incomplete because it does not take into account the costs of NOT combatting global warming. What's the cost of NYC, Fla, and Galveston being under water? What's the cost of midwestern and southern farms drying out and producing less crops? Or the cost of the drought in Georgia? Or the coming fresh water resource wars around the globe? OR the economic benefits of US ingenuity solving the problem and exporting our technology to the rest of the world? Take that into account before coming up with fuzzy math on the costs of fighting global warming.

Also, give credit to Biden for bringing up Pakistan at the last debate before it became a top story.

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H P Boston — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:03:19 GMT

I'm starting to think that Biden might actually be able to pull it off, which to me would be a best-case scenario. I like Hillary, I like Obama, I like Edwards...but ultimately, I think Biden is the most qualified and best-suited to be the next president. And by qualifications, I am not talking about years of service of how many bills he sponsored or anything like that, although even by those standards he would be right up there. Biden's qualifications, to me, stem from the fact that he gets it. He gets Iraq, he gets the global picture in general, he gets the American people. He knows what he is talking about, and as someone else pointed out, it's rare in the debates that you hear people disagreeing with him. **On the contrary, the other candidates frequently can be heard to say they agree with Joe.
Carrie, Eastern Iowa (Sent Tuesday, November 06, 2007 10:55 AM
--------**Could that be b/c Biden is not the front runner?

I also like Biden and he is well qualified.
Just asking.

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BB, Texas — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:07:26 GMT

Jerry says; "Will the American people go for paying $5 a gallon for gas and people in New England paying more and more for heating oil? I think not, with fuel prices skyrocketing"

Jerry, How soon you forget. Gas prices have gone thru the roof while your daddy is at the helm. Bill Clinton didn't put up with big oil ripping us off when he was in office.
I think if he and his wife return to the white house the days of big oil making record profits will be over.

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Stacy S., Medford OR — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:18:41 GMT

I agree with everything Carrie said. Joe Biden shows leadership in all of the important issues we face. He's the only candidate who has a real detailed plan to get us out of Iraq. The other candidates recognize this and are often quoted as saying that they agree with Joe.

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SW GR, MI — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:29:32 GMT

Mad in Madtown.....Best pair I've heard of yet!
Biden/Feingold '08!!! That would be awesome.
Go Joe go!

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pam, los angeles, ca — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:31:11 GMT

I like Biden very much, however, it seems Sen. Clinton will take the nomination. That is fine with me. I think she will do the smart thing after she is President and make Biden Sec. of State.
The only debate that will be important is the one between Sen. Clinton and the Republican nominee.

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Ron New Port Richey Fl — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:46:45 GMT

Here is a simple way to start a great energy policy,

Mandate that by 2010 ALL new cars,trucks,SUV's get 100mpg. The technology is out there. I will vote for the candidate who proposes that idea, it will also show they are not beholden to corporate $$$$$.

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Ron — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:48:20 GMT

Psychic Mary please pass the pipe you have smoked too much

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Crystal (Time for change) — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:52:32 GMT

Today 268 Iowa Republicans announced that they will caucus for Senator Barack Obama and 68 New Hampshire Republicans announced that they had changed their party registration to vote for Barack Obama in the primary, saying he is the only candidate in either party who can break through the gridlock in Washington because he has a proven record of bringing Republicans and Democrats together to solve problems. In Illinois, Obama bridged the partisan divide to extend health care to 150,000 Illinois families, pass a $100 million tax cut for working families and enact historic ethics reform.

“With all of the challenges our country faces, we cannot elect a President who will go to Washington and just get bogged down by the same partisan gridlock,” Brett Blix said. “That’s why I’m supporting Senator Obama even though I’m a Republican. He’s the only candidate in either party with a record of bringing Republicans and Democrats together to solve problems, and he will always tell you where he stands even when you disagree. There are thousands of disaffected Republicans like me who are disappointed by President Bush and the Republican presidential candidates who would consider voting for a Democrat who can bring about change we can believe in.”

Brett Blix is 30-year-old Iraq war veteran from Northwood, Iowa. He recently switched his party registration so that he can caucus for Senator Obama.

“I’ve been a Republican all my life, but the challenges we face are too great to choose a candidate based on his party—we need to the choose the candidate who can bring fundamental change to Washington and start getting things done again,” Jerry Spivak said. “Barack Obama is the only candidate who will be able to break the partisan logjam and inspire Americans to come together around real solutions.”

Jerry Spivak is a 57-year-old engineer from Nashua, New Hampshire. He recently switched his party registration so that he can vote for Senator Obama in the primary.

This public support from Republicans is yet another sign of Senator Obama’s crossover appeal. Previously, Obama received third place in a poll of Republican Iowa caucus goers – receiving more support from Republicans than Mike Huckabee, John McCain and Sam Brownback combined.

“I’ve always believed that you can only bring about real change when people come together across party lines, and I’ve seen what happens when folks put politics aside and get down to work,” Senator Obama said. “If you can’t bring people together across the old fault lines, you simply aren’t going to be able to make progress on the challenges we face.”

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:57:38 GMT

To Show you how goofy and how stupid congress is (both sides) and they don't give a dog about Global warming, has anybody in congress been screaming about higher gas prices since the democrats got control of congress? I thought so. To remind all of you liberal morons about how the democrats were screaming about high gas and now don't care today, here is a story from last year in the Washington Post.....

Going a Short Way to Make a Point

By Dana Milbank
Thursday, April 27, 2006; A02

Ladies and gentlemen, start your engines.

Gas prices have gone above $3 a gallon again, and that means it's time for another round of congressional finger-pointing.

"Since George Bush and Dick Cheney took over as president and vice president, gas prices have doubled!" charged Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.), standing at an Exxon station on Capitol Hill where regular unleaded hit $3.10. "They are too cozy with the oil industry."

She then hopped in a waiting Chrysler LHS (18 mpg) -- even though her Senate office was only a block away.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) used a Hyundai Elantra to take the one-block journey to and from the gas-station news conference. He posed in front of the fuel prices and gave them a thumbs-down. "Get tough on big oil!" he demanded of the Bush administration.

By comparison, Sen. Maria Cantwell (D-Wash.) was a model of conservation. She told a staffer idling in a Jetta to leave without her, then ducked into a sushi restaurant for lunch before making the journey back to work.

At about the same time, House Republicans were meeting in the Capitol for their weekly caucus (Topic A: gas). The House driveway was jammed with cars, many idling, including eight Chevrolet Suburbans (14 mpg).

America may be addicted to oil, as President Bush puts it. But America is in the denial phase of this addiction -- as evidenced by the behavior of its lawmakers. They have proposed all kinds of solutions to high gas prices: taxes on oil companies, domestic oil drilling and releasing petroleum reserves. But they ignore the obvious: that Americans drive too much in too-big cars.

Senators were debating a war spending bill yesterday, but the subject invariably turned to gas prices. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) engaged his deputy, Dick Durbin (Ill.), in a riveting colloquy. "Is the senator aware that the L.A. Times headline reads today, 'Bush's Proposals Viewed as a Drop in the Bucket'?"

"I'm aware of that," Durbin replied.

Sen. Pete Domenici (R-N.M.) responded with an economics lesson. "Oil is worth what people pay for it," he argued.

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) sounded the alarms. "We are one accident or one terrorist attack away from oil at $100 a barrel!"

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) made a plea for conservation. "We have to move quickly to increase our fuel efficiency," she urged.

But not too quickly. After lunchtime votes, senators emerged from the Capitol for the drive across the street to their offices.

Sen. John Sununu (R-N.H.) hopped in a GMC Yukon (14 mpg). Sen. Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) climbed aboard a Nissan Pathfinder (15). Sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.) stepped into an eight-cylinder Ford Explorer (14). Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) disappeared into a Lincoln Town Car (17). Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.) met up with an idling Chrysler minivan (18).

Next came Sen. Bob Menendez (D-N.J.), greeted by a Ford Explorer XLT. On the Senate floor Tuesday, Menendez had complained that Bush "remains opposed to higher fuel-efficiency standards."

Also waiting: three Suburbans, a Nissan Armada V8, two Cadillacs and a Lexus. The greenest senator was Richard Lugar (R-Ind.), who was picked up by his hybrid Toyota Prius (60 mpg), at quadruple the fuel efficiency of his Indiana counterpart Evan Bayh (D), who was met by a Dodge Durango V8 (14).

As a political matter, Democrats clearly sense that they have the advantage on the high gas prices, judging from the number of speeches and news conferences. "The cost of Republican corruption when it comes to energy is hitting home very clearly for America's middle class," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) exulted yesterday morning.

Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) introduced an amendment to repeal oil-company tax breaks and distribute $500 tax rebates to consumers. It was quickly ruled out of order.

But Republicans were clearly feeling defensive. "We passed an energy bill last year, last July," House Speaker Dennis Hastert (Ill.) pleaded at a morning news conference. "It changes CAFE [corporate average fuel economy] standards. It changes some of the things that we can do -- I'm sorry, changes not the CAFE standards, but changes some of the supply issues, boutique fuels, all these things."

Only Sen. Mark Dayton (D-Minn.), who can speak freely because he is retiring, was willing to note the disconnect between rhetoric and action. "People say, understandably, 'Solve our energy problems right now, but don't make us do anything differently,' " he said on the Senate floor.

If the politics of gasoline favor Democrats at the moment, the insincerity is universal. A surreptitious look at the cars in the senators-only spots inside and outside the Senate office buildings found an Escort and a Sentra (super-rich Wisconsin Democrat Herb Kohl's spot had a Chevy Lumina), but far more Jaguars, Cadillacs and Lexuses and a fleet of SUVs made by Ford, Honda, BMW and Lexus.

A sampling of senators' and staff cars parked along Delaware Avenue NE found that those displaying Democratic campaign bumper stickers had a somewhat higher average fuel economy (23 mpg) than those displaying GOP stickers (18 mpg). A fuel-efficiency rating could not be found for the 1970s-era Volkswagen "Thing" owned by Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.).

Maybe, lawmakers are starting to learn. When GOP senators had a lunch Tuesday a couple of blocks from the Capitol, many took cars. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) emerged from the lunch looking for his ride when he spied The Washington Post's Shailagh Murray. Reconsidering, he set out on foot. "I need the exercise," he reasoned.

No politician can ever look the American voter in the eye again after those performances last year and talk about big oil and their profits after this story.

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Psychic Mary — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:08:06 GMT

There WILL be a female in the White House. It will be Hillary Clinton. I can see this clearly.

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Lee in CA — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:16:04 GMT

"They know Gore's movie is full of BS Lies, and they don't care. "

Exactly WHAT do you know about it? You obviously wouldn't know a LIAR if one stole the White House and started an illegal war and committed war crimes in YOUR name through lying.

Thanks for being smarter and better informed than the Nobel Prize committee (and 80% of the scientists on Earth).

That disappearing ice pack - our imagination! Where would we be without smart people like you (and GWB)?

How big of a lie is evolution, Dave TN?

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Clint Billerd — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:32:33 GMT

Lee in CAA:

So what? Then they'd be remembered as having failed in a nobel quest, but not for long because the problem is real and bi-partisan.

This failure though will be the Mother fo All Failures. Democrats are promising to change the worlds climate. What a hoot. And, that's what the Democrats are best at, failing at nobel causes. American history is clogged with all these failures. Just like Clinton used to cry "I tried. I tried". Yeah you tried. Good boy. Now go sit in the corner and shut up.

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A plan — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 18:34:38 GMT

Last week John Edwards read Hillary's Health care plan and Hillary's energy plan.

After reading the plan, what did he do?

Copy them and change one or two languages and make it his plan. Am i suppose to credit him for being bold? The answer is No.

I am expecting Obama to come out with his plan on Education, until then he doesn't deserve any credit. I guess he is waiting for Edwards to come out first because he doesn't want to piss off the teachers' union.

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Shut me up, punk. — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:31:28 GMT

"Yeah you tried. Good boy. Now go sit in the corner and shut up."

Why don't you do it to me? You know you want to. You want to beat and imprison everyone who isn't as stupid and narrowed minded as you. You just can't.

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bbc cedar hills, utah — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 19:32:34 GMT

I am also a republican who has registered as a democrate so that I can vote for Obama in the primaries. There are more of us than Hillary knows....take back our government Obama 08'

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:06:10 GMT

Crude oil is now at $97 a barrel......

Whatcha gonna do Hillary?.......

And please only have one side of the issue........

in 2006.....Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) sounded the alarms. "We are one accident or one terrorist attack away from oil at $100 a barrel!"

We are there girlfriend....What's the plan?

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Hillary Clinton — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 20:57:45 GMT

Crude oil is now at $97 a barrel......

Whatcha gonna do Hillary?......

Slap a 20% tax on the goo!! We're going Green you know. Kyoto and all that.

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Lee Holmes — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 23:23:23 GMT

Dems are trapped in a bind here all right. The California Supreme Court,not for nothing,struck down the states lawsuit on greenhouse gases aimed at American automakers. Its obvious reasoning is that we are getting Indian,or Chinese,or Mexican greenhouse gases as well. How can the plaintiffs tell one greenhouse gas from the other?
Thus,while China,India,Mexico,South Americans,Russians,and Africans have no plans whatever to actually adhere to a KYOTO-style solution[Clinton tried,in a 1998 EO,but forgot about the ''advise and consent''of Congress that the Constitution demands when entering into a foreign treaty],thus putting the heads of American workers on the chopping block. At the 30-40% rise in fuel costs being paid by Americans,complete with further state,federal and even local gas taxes,unemployment will rise and recession will come in actuality. Not in theory. Angry voters,not wishing to wait for pie-in-the-sky pronouncements of waiting until 2012,or 2020 or 2050 for any real changes[totally offset,however,by the tens of millions of progeny of illegal aliens and the further influx of more of them],will can the Democrats in the next election a la Carter,or 1994. We have already been witness to how gas prices at the 4-dollar level affect the country. Some shortages in commodities,usually short-term. A few layoffs here and there and increased prices for groceries for a time.
Yet if we are talking 4.50-5.50$ per gallon,for an extended period for offsetting greenhouse gases while watching Tinseltown glitterati who never had to sacrifice a damned thing in their lives going on TV and telling us how ''critical''our own sacrifices are,complete with pink slips and out-of-control energy and food bills,there will be unbridled hell to pay which will make even the opposition to the war in Iraq seem tame by comparison.
When people like Boxer speak,look for the lies therein. In her case,it is not a long trip. The Center for Responsive Politics,[www.opensecrets.org] shows that she is the recipient of campaign cash from the UAW and the TEAMSTERS,who give nearly solely to Democrats at about 99 dollars to 1 dollar for Republicans]which are the two unions most concerned with keeping profits in the black by the construction of vehicles that pay the most for the companies in which their members work. Namely,gas-guzzlers of low-mileage specs as amply illistrated by Jerry.
These leftwinged bovines have it bassackwards as usual. Rather than nationalize our oil companies,nationalize the car companies instead,turning out products similar to those of the Iron Curtain in its day. Three or four models. Thats all you get. All fourbangers,[non-industry and commerce] and all smaller than your dogs bed.

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With respect, Miss jerry — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:02:12 GMT

hey jerry - isn't blaming everything on Clinton BEFORE she's in the WH sort of panzy-assed, even for you?

You BushCo faithful blamed every stupid thing Bush did on Bill Clinton for a good 5 years, now you've finally seen how impotent that makes you look, so you're pre-blaming Hilldawg for every catastrophy visited on us RIGHT NOW by Bush?

What a pathetic whiner you are! Listen - when the fight starts - find your self a safe place, little lady.

I've always assumed you were male - no longer. You whine like an un-oiled motor.

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Hill and Denn For Ever — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 04:47:36 GMT

You conservative winnies make me want to puke. Hillary has a weather machine that she's going to talk about in a speech real soon now. It's going to change the way the world works, and is going to be used to combat global warming. Hillary is going to appoint Kucinich as the Secretary of Heat, and he's going to be the World Ambassador to Fight Global Warming (WAFGW). Dennis and Hillary will use the weather machine only for peaceful purposes with our trusted allies. The machine will be destroyed if someone like Cheney is in charge because you just know he'll use it to wage war on the innocents. Al Gore invented the machine for Hillary, and he's going to win his second Nobel for his effort. Gore, like Hillary, has millions of ideas, and he plans to win the Nobel prize for the next 10 years in a row to show that he is the smartest man ever.

Go Hillary/08!!

Oh-eight (D): A risky issue for Dems?

Lee Holmes — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 16:56:09 GMT

Hill and Den: I already saw Hillarys ''weather machine''. It was invented by Mr. Peabody on the ROCKY and BULLWINKLE Show back in 1967.