http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx From NBC's Mark Murray and Ken StricklandObviously not the way he wanted to kick off his presidential campaign, Sen. Joe Biden's conference call with reporters this afternoon announcing his White House bid was dominated by questions abouten-USCommunityServer 2.0 (Build: 60608.1)http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#46652Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:22:43 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:46652Rick Lapin, Albuquerque, NMLet me know when any of these "leaders" does anything but talk. Never have so many struck such a wide variety of self-serving and non-binding poses on the bodies of good American GIs -- but, hey! They're gonna die anyhow, right? "If only I can position my political viability properly for '08, those brave men and women shall not have died in vain!" Lead the nation? Fight terrorism? These yokos are too lame to even fight George Bush -- who will allow them to say anything they want as long as they pony up the cash on demand. A thoroughly disgusting show by "anti-surge" Dems and Pugs alike; they're playing "good cop/bad cop" with us, compadres -- from the war to Congressional ethics to the minimum wage. When all is said (and said and said and said) and done, they represent The Man, not us. Deport yourselves accordingly. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#46703Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:08:09 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:46703Sierra, San Francisco, CAAll the Democratic contenders (except Obama) voted for the Iraq war. They knew Bush was lying (who didn't?). They knew there was no justification for war. They just wanted to 'position themselves'. At least, Edwards later apologized for his opportunism. Non of the others (Clinton, Kerry, Biden, Dodd) have. They only turned against the war after it became unpopular with the American people. Some leaders they are. Biden also has the plaigerism thing to explain. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#46763Wed, 31 Jan 2007 23:11:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:46763Barbara, TNIf everyone on Capital Hill is going to be out campaigning for President over the next two years, who will be "minding the store?".http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#46903Thu, 01 Feb 2007 01:51:44 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:46903Rick Lapin, Albuquerque, NMToo busy giving away the store to mind it, Barbara -- while we all shout "Less Filling!" or "Tastes Great!" like a bunch of yokels just off the bus who don't realize it's all just the same old brand of beer ... http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47100Thu, 01 Feb 2007 05:21:28 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47100Carol, Columbus, OhSo this was the lead story on the night's national news report? The awful key word was "clean"? This was a nothing story. There were a lot of very important events in this country and throughout the world during the previous 24 hours. The effort chasing the unimportant little chatter that Biden said could have been used for a much more important story.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47199Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:19:55 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47199Ned, from WisconsinI am fed up with the war in Iraq. It has lasted longer than World War II. I want it to end, immediately. Total withdrawal, now. I am not paying ANY attention to anything that anyone says, Democrat or Republican. I am looking at what our leaders DO, and only at what they do. I am tired of politics. I have never failed to vote in any election, and I won't fail to vote in 2008. I will vote only for the men and women who ACT to get us out of Iraq. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47208Thu, 01 Feb 2007 12:54:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47208SKU USA#1Same old storie, i want to be first in line to the lunch room , no i wanta be first in line , teacher everbody's getting in front of me. lol Politics as only the (leaders of the USA can bring it)teacher joe's telling stories about me . he wount let me talk.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47213Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:11:32 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47213Rhyme TimeToday's cartoon for young children features all the anti-surge crowd dressed in pig drag performing that ever classic...Da Tree Widdle Pigs...huff and puff and puff and huff while trying to tear down President Bush's house...while the sorry remainder of the quisling, obsequious leftists run like hell for self-aggrandizing, ego-tripping 15 seconds of infamy. [Let's see if MSNBC will post this or finds it appropriate to censor free press in opposition to its crenated mindset.]http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47382Thu, 01 Feb 2007 14:53:53 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47382Kenneth HallObama's reaction to Biden's remark was appropriate. People will forget about Biden's statement by the end of the week. If Obama had blown the issue out of proportion he would be the one to suffer politically from it in the end. As far as the war in Iraq we all know the surge is happening and will continue and we all know it will be funded no matter what the American people want.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47504Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:07:56 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47504JIM FAWCETT HOUSTON, TXhttp://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/trackback.aspx?PostID=47314http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47573Thu, 01 Feb 2007 16:47:20 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47573Jonathan, Portland, MaineNed from Wisconsin and Sierra from San Fran have it absolutely correct. I will add this: Regarding looking at what a Congressman DOES (as opposed to flapping their gums) - Take a look at Ron Paul (R-TX). Ask yourselves "Why does he get absolutely ZERO news coverage?" This man voted AGAINST the war consistently, against his "party" consistently, since 2002. He is a Doer. Yet the media keeps propping up all the usual suspects (regardless of party). When you have an overwhelming majority of Americans on record as opposing the war, you'd think the media would cover Dr. Paul's intention to run for president in '08, whereas he's the only one who can claim his consistent vote record. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47628Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:24:25 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47628ScottI think Rick Lapin is right about our "do nothing" senate. 113 amendments to the mimumn wage? Give me a break! I could go on and on.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47635Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:28:31 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47635SullyI am Caucasian. Please tell me what a "clean" black /African American man is?????? My empathy is with the African-American population. Too often suspect words and/or phrases are used to describe black people. Oh, and what about articulate?????? From what I've heard from black people the descriptive word "articulate" is an insult.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47744Thu, 01 Feb 2007 18:40:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47744Leslie, IllinoisI was astonished to learn that describing someone as "clean" and "articulate" was an insult. I admire both qualities in a person. Sounds to me like the media is making something of nothing. http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47882Thu, 01 Feb 2007 20:35:19 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47882Seattle SueSully--According to my dictionary the meaning of articulate would be a compliment to anyone. Be they black/white/brown/yellow or green.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#47967Thu, 01 Feb 2007 21:55:27 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:47967SullyThere is an article by a black professional, the name escapes me now........who described her dismay when "smart or professional" black folks are described as "articulate". I swear I did not make this up, If I can think of the name of the book it was in I will post it. Leslie, have you heard a white politician referred to as "clean"??????????????????/ How many times..........http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#48162Fri, 02 Feb 2007 02:41:21 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:48162Dan Richardson, Winsted CTAm I missing something here? It is not Sen. Obama that Sen. Biden owes an apology to; it is African-Americans in general. The one's who don't meet Biden's definition of mainstream. Can anyone say with a straight face that if George Bush referred to Colin Powell as "the first mainstream African-American who is articulate, clean, and good-looking," that Congressional Democrats and "liberal bloggers" wouldn't be wallowing in righteous indignation, or would be telling us to think about something more important like the war in Iraq? http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#48195Fri, 02 Feb 2007 03:30:23 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:48195Barbara, TNI think anyone, of any race, who is insulted by being described as "articulate" simply must not know the definition.http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#48325Fri, 02 Feb 2007 13:02:54 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:48325Dan RichardsonTo clarify my earlier comment about "Biden's definition of mainstream;" I was referring to his implication that good looking and articulate means looking and talking like a white person. As far as clean goes, that is a complete non-sequitor. I have no idea what he was referring to http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/01/31/46560.aspx#48399Fri, 02 Feb 2007 15:32:02 GMT8a5d2dbc-a0e4-4c7a-979f-3188051f228e:48399spunky for the munkyI'm articulate! and you don't hear me complaining! Biden is just an idiot he a closet racist and now he's backpedaling.