Clinton surrogate criticizes Obama

jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:37:11 GMT

Depends on which plants gets Hillary going.....

Hillary better be careful tomorrow night, she could end her campaign with one minor issue that she either doesn't know the question or wasn't set up for her.

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Keith, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:39:00 GMT

I'm not sure if HRC's campaign really wants to go back to 2002, especially on the issue of Iraq.

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Dave TN — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:42:11 GMT

She won't do it. She is such a strong woman having other men do her dirty work for her. First it's her hubby, then Strickland and now Mc Govern. Come on. She knows one thing once you hit Obama he will strike back. I can’t wait for the debate tomorrow. Especially, after Wolf Blitzer was warned not to be harsh on her like Russert was courtesy of Matt Drudge. If Blitzer is not nice CNN may not get that interview with the Clinton’s or they be banished from campaign coverage e.g. the G.Q. article that was ditched.

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Lyn, MD — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:43:53 GMT

I see Hillaryis44 is sending around their talking points

If Hillary is smart she won't go there. She will be eaten alive.

BTW she won't go anywhere...she will send the "boys" out to attack for her. She doesn't have the ---- to do anything but try to act "tough" in front of audiences and oh answere "planted" questions. When she called Obama naive she didn't have the nerve to do it to his face she did it on the radio the next day

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MK,MO — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:45:52 GMT

'Sen. Obama now likes to say that people shouldn't act like George Bush on national security. It's one thing to keep quiet about the war during a convention, it's quite another to say you support what George Bush is doing."'

hillary does support what bush is doing, actions speak louder than her always vague words, she voted to let bush attack iran did she not? why do you think she earned the name bush-lite? the same military corporate interests getting fat off of bush are bankrolling hillary. give it a rest

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diane — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:45:56 GMT

In fairness, Obama was not in the position to make any strong statements that would embarrass the nominee in a tough race.
this has been brought up before in Feb and march. Bill was making a big deal out of it.
It was noted back then that the Clintons were cherry picking the statement.
It did not fly back then. why would they think it would now.

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Justin Gainesville, FL — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:47:57 GMT

So now Tim Russert taking an Obama quote (from his own show, no less) completely out of context, and having it deftly deflected by Obama, is how Hillary chooses to send her dogs on the attack? If this is the best tough, no man needs to do my dirty work Hillary can produce, neither Obama nor Edwards has much to worry about.

The Iraq war is an issue she should want to avoid, also. Her record of contributing to the rubber-stamp Congress, Bush's war in Iraq, and the Bush-Cheney "diplomacy" of chest-thumping and strong-arming isn't her best set of left-of-center credentials.

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Malcolm Sinclair — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:48:39 GMT

Hillary is going negative. I thought she was committed to a postive campaign? Guess not.

Okay all you Hillary lackeys, time to start your generalizing, deconstruction, and hand waving. Be sure to mention Bush a few dozen times while you're at it.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:50:31 GMT

It's a bad talking point, and McGovern can't sell it better than anyone else can. Obama opposed the war, he says in the next two sentences of the quote McGovern referenced that he would have been inclined to vote no, but he made that fact more ambiguous in his overall answer as to not undermine nominees Kerry and Edwards. Had he done otherwise, he would have done nothing to further the anti-war movement, and would have actually strengthened the pro-war President towards re-election. I really get irritated when Wolfson, Dodd, McGovern, and others use this argument against Obama because it's like they have no respect for our intelligence.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:50:35 GMT

After that nutcase and her threat about Tim Russert, Wolf better keep that in the back of his mind when he is up there with Hillary.

They are not the Clinton News Network for nothing...
I'm sure they got with the Clinton people to get the script right.

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Rick Yune, Boston — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:50:47 GMT

Hillary won't get any hard questions tomorrow night. Her husband told everyone to lay off, and Blitzer is the plant.

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Rick Yune, Boston — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:50:48 GMT

Hillary won't get any hard questions tomorrow night. Her husband told everyone to lay off, and Blitzer is the plant.

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fun watcher — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:58:55 GMT

Now i can grad my pop corn and pop an watch the ourage of the obama supporter. It promises to be a promissing and fun day

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diane — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:59:42 GMT

wow. I just read all the comments. If this is a trial balloon to see how it takes, they will need to scrap the strategy.
The comments totally dumped on Hillary and the column. if her campaign reads them, they will be surprised how much democrats are not buying what she is trying to sell through her surrogate.

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Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:00:25 GMT

My guess is they are throwing this out there because they want to push the moderators to ask a question around the war / Russert interview.

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Kristian O — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:08:04 GMT

Yet the word I'm hearing about the Edwards and Obama campaigns is DESPERATION. Can somebody please tell me what is going on with the Clinton campaign right about now? In 1 word please. Thanks in advance.

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MK,MO — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:09:57 GMT

'this just in'

first read earns place in guinness book of world records, category, 'most pro cinton posts in one day'

I believe congratulations are in order first read.
all together now, hip, hip, hooray

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:13:07 GMT

This is just more team Hillary muddling of a very important issue in the campaign. All of the past positions can be argued, although it is obvious to me that Obama was clearly against military action in Iraq from the beginning. Still, I for one, would have preferred that Obama made a more direct statement about his 2002 position during the 2004 election (although I understand his desire at that time in wanting to avoid undermining the Kerry/Edwards campaign). Yet, the fact remains that Hillary still refuses (unlike Edwards and Dodd) to admit that her vote in 2002, for the use of force in Iraq, was a mistake and it should be embarrassing for her that she voted for the Lieberman/Kyl amendment back in September of this year.

There is a big difference in relative positions of how Hillary and Obama would handle foreign policy in the Middle East. Hillary supports the GWB position but insists that it be done more competently. Obama supports a policy that is diametrically opposite, he thinks that this war was a mistake and that all combat troops should be removed.
Obama '08

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Joe Justice — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:13:49 GMT

This kind of junk makes me like Hillary even less. So she wants to alienate 5 Democratic voters for every 1 moderate GOP-er she gains?

I'm not pulling the level for her if she is the nominee-- Obama fights fair, and not cynically.

Hillary is a cynical, insulting joke.

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Daniel, NY — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:14:36 GMT

Big news in the Senate, as Senator Cochran has announced he WILL run for re-election: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2007/11/democrats-morning-disappointment.html

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TheDonald — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:14:58 GMT

I trust she won't dare say such, knowing fully well that Obama's counter punch (in a well constructed language) will be in the news. She does not want to complicate already doomded campaign.

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Mark — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:17:06 GMT

Oh no, Hill's boys are ganging up on Obama. Hillary should run as a green (thumb) party candidate. That would validate her use of plants.

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Lynn, Millington — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:18:06 GMT

Dave in the Volunteer State,

I completely agree with you. She is letting the men in her campaign do the dirty work, while she tries to stay "above the fray." Her negatives are growing daily, she knows she can't hit Senator Obama for that reason. Also, people just like this man and they hate Hillary Clinton.

I can't wait to read the reaction from the Obama campaign about this little article. You know they are going to HIT BACK HARD! That was a dumb move on the Clinton campaign, it makes me wonder about their "internal" polling.

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vanreuter, NY NY — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:25:10 GMT

It's like taking attendance at the "I hate Hillary Club".
If you need any suggestions on how to arrange those deck chairs...

Van

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Doug Spafle Nashville, TN — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:28:53 GMT

Hillary is too much for this country. She kicks of her campaign on the theme of "let's have a conversation," then admits to planting questioners in so-called open-forum stump speeches. Then, she accuses Barack Obama of "abandoning the politics of hope." At least Obama has an identifiable political ethos to begin with.

You know, I've been ambivalent about Clinton until now, but this is just too much. I don't think we, as a party, can afford her as a nominee, let alone a president. She is running a clumsy campaign, enjoying a lead solely built off of her husband's good will.

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Jesse, Burnsville, MN — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:30:29 GMT

Kristian,

One word for the Clinton campaign

IMPLODING!!!

Edwards/Obama or Obama/Edwards '08

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Michael, Los Angeles — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:31:09 GMT

Can I say one thing...

Why is it ok for Obama to not say he was totally against the war in 2004? WAR IS BIGGER THAN PARTISAN POLITICS - He should have had the courage then when not running for president - than now when running for President... sounds like Double Speak...

"And so it, it probably was the wrong time for me to be making a strong case against our party’s nominees’ decisions when it came to Iraq."

You know what I can't wait for is Obama in the General Election - he is going to be eaten alive - First on letting illegals get driver liscenes.. 70% of the country does not want that...

And if democrats are so silly to think that the Republicans aren't going to attack obama as hard as they would hillary - you all must have been asleep for the last 8 years - (Two great deomcrats went down to the republican machine (Gore / Kerry) - and neither of them were named clinton - funny thing is the only democrat that have actually beaten the republicans was named clinton... You are right History does speak the truth)

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karlos — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:35:52 GMT

i really don't care at this point what anyone of the demos did in 04 on iraq, i care what they do now! while these people are playing politics on previous postions only one person has an accepted plan for iraq now, joe biden. when they wanted to play politics with the funding abandoning the troops of needed armored vehicles joe said he wouldn't play election politics with the lives on the troops stuck there. when they focused on iran joe saw the the problems coming in pakistan. this war is the single most important issue not only for the negative world attitude, the maiming & death of our troops, the 2.4 tril. projected over 10 yrs, but also for the daily cost of our rhetoric of the past and daily financial impact of prices at the pump and trickle down impact of the goods and food we buy! keep focusing on the CE&O of the top tier and you ignore the only candidate with a plan for iraq & terrorists to end this quagmire. the other three are lightweights in experience and proposals to handle these problems. get off your butt which is suffocating your brain and actually listen and read their positions vrs. biden's, you'll be enlightened.

Clinton surrogate criticizes Obama

An — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:43:11 GMT

I heard that all the questions that are going to be asked tomorrow have been forwarded to Hillary's camp.
This of course may not surprise me because Wolf of CNN is the most fertile soil for all the planted questions for Hillary since day one.

Here are some of the questions he is going to ask her tomorrow:
(1) Sen. Clinton, your opponent have said they do not know where you stand on issues. Tell us where you stand.
(2) What do you think of the Gov. of NY dropping the idea of issuing licenses to illigal immigrants.

It has been also discovered that she had all the questions sent to her before most of the debates.

If we really want to have a meaningful debate, you need to have Rush, Saun or Neal to ask questions. Only advise them to be respectful to her and the process.

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Lynn, Millington — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:44:02 GMT

Michael, you are using the fear card. This election is not about the fear of losing but about the future.

A Hillary Clinton nomination will bring out not only Republicans but Democrats who don't like the Clintons in General. My brother said if Clinton nominee I'm voting for Fred Thompson. The Clintons ruined (Vice) President Al Gore's chances for the Presidency. They did the same thing to Senator Kerry. I wish Democrats would look beyond the Clinton brand to what these two actually did for our Country...NOTHING. The Dems lost the Congress because of Clinton. If Hillary Clinton wins this nomination, you can rest assured that the Dems will lose the Congress once again.

The meaning of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, then expecting a different result.

NO MORE BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH-CLINTON!

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Dave, Tn — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:48:28 GMT

Dave in the Volunteer State, I completely agree with you.

That's nice, but it wasn't me who posted that. I would have said like I have before to watch how the Clinton Cult deals with Obama, and you'll see what they've been up to with Bush for the last 7 years. It's all been one long check off list of things from Bill's "no real stand" legacy.

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DesertStormVet, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:48:54 GMT

First she sends a civilian to the Iowa Democratic Party Veterans Caucus Forum in August (all other candidates sent veterans - Dodd showed up personally), now she blows off the IDPVC Four Points of Honor platform priorities press conference (no surrogate, either...not even a civilian this time)? She doesn't seem to have a problem using veterans to promote herself, she just doesn't seem to want to meet us. What does Hillary have against veterans?

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Tuck, realityville, kansas — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:49:21 GMT

Obama, the prince of the empty suit.
why as a senator has he done nothing, led nothing, been nothing except a canidate for president.

Don't you all relize he's never led, he's never even sponsered a peice of legislation in his career?

the gop wants him as the nominee , he'll be toast, and romney or rudy will be elected.

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Kristian O — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:51:37 GMT

This is going to be one of the biggest crush jobs of an enstablishment candidate in the history of politics. Hillary is a sure, and soon to be sore, loser when this primary season is done. A shift in tactics by Obama and Edwards in another 2 weeks will throw the Clintonites completely off kilter. Just Watch.

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Rob, Indianapoli — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:51:40 GMT

I think Obama answered the question perfectly... He was trying to prop up a guy who did vote for the war. He couldn't very well say "Vote for Kerry! (even though he massively f'ed up the war authorization vote)"

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:57:18 GMT

It's like taking attendance at the "I hate Hillary Club".
If you need any suggestions on how to arrange those deck chairs...

Van

Where does the question planter sit Van?

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Travis, Louisville, Ky — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:00:21 GMT

Jerry, your posts are meaningless and stupid. I'm beginning to simply think that you're not a Republican but a sexist idiot. How can you critisize Hillary in one breath, praise Bush in the second, both for the same exact reason, and then say, after one debate minor slip-up, after Bush had handily lost every debate of both his primaries and both general elections as well? Your debating skills are useless and your lack of information based off of statistics aside from your hatred of Hillary is in excess.

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Marbw — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:06:33 GMT

While saying that Dems shouldn't attack other Dems, her campaign leaked negative stuff about J Edwards and Obama to the media (per 'war room' article at salon). The media there 'outed' her.
If anyone care to read, Obama followed up with a 'no' i wouldn't have voted that way. That part was left off Tim's screen presentation.
Boy! her camp sure is in panic mode though.
Don't expect any hard questions put to her in Vegas by Wolfie at CNN(her new campaign headquarters).

Here are some questions that a cq blogger posted(3 q edited out):

"Do you really still believe in that discredited notion of a 'Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy' against you and Bill?" (for full effect, shake head and chuckle as it's asked)
"Is it possible for you to identify a problem and NOT blame George W. Bush?"
"What happened to your incredible commodities trading skill, that was never in evidence before you made hundreds of thousands of dollars out of thin air, and hasn't resurfaced since?"
"It's 10 o'clock. Do you know where Bill is?"
"What did you get Norman Hsu for his last birthday?"
"Why do you insist on the flagrantly obvious double-standard of asking loaded questions in staged news conferences as if you're tough, then hiding behind your 'womanhood' and crying foul anytime the mean boys question you? How can you do that with a straight face?"
"To which 'charities' did you 'donate' Norman Hsu's campaign contributions? How much of that money have they laundered and donated back to you?"
"Ms. Clinton: which of the questions your staff handed to me should I read next?"
"Why do you think it's OK to provide ID to illegal immigrants so they can vote Democratic?"
"How long after the debate ends will you trot Bill out to scold us for not capitulating to you?"
"Please tell all of us here which questions we are not allowed to ask, and which observations have to be cleared with your campaign staff before we can report on them."
[I'm dreaming, I know. But, somewhere, I just want her to have to deal with what she dishes out... even though I know she never will.]

ps..(These are my questions.
Did you or anyone that you know stoke the McClurkin or Is he black enough? stories because your husband did try to prevent the fundraiser?
Why did you call Obama 'naive and inexperienced' which your followers now repeat ad nauseum; yet later you end up agreeing with his policies?
Are you aware that(upon close inspection), so far Barack Obama has more experience and judgment than you?
Why do you constantly 'lift' Obama's phrases and slogans?
When will your husband provide evidence of your White House 'experience'? (senate records of you and Obama are readily available everywhere...dont put forth red herring arguments).
If you went on a job interview(POTUS) and said 'trust me' without these documentary proof, do you think anyone would hire you?
When did you discover that your fellow Dems colleague and friends(who respect you at work) now are asking you policy questions because you are a girl?
Did you join the Dem party after your rival RNixon defeated your candidate's(Goldwater) ideas?
Have you gotten a hint that B Clinton(based on his 90's debate video on youtube with GHWB) might want to endorse Barack Obama?
Why does your husband cheapen his ex-prez status my making silly statements lately?
How do you expect to win and govern, when a large part of this country(including a large chunk of Dem men/women/Ind/Repub) will not vote for you ever?
Do you think any progress will be made with a 50+1% votes in ge or majority in congress?
If citizens do not buy into your health plan, how will you enforce that part?
Are you aware that neither cheney nor bush will be on the ticket in 2008?
When will you withdraw from this race, and stop embarassing my Dem party and women?

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vonvee — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:07:47 GMT

I've never really understood any of Hilary's appeal at all, b/c it seems that not only is the Iraq war something she should avoid talking about, but foreign policy as a whole... I don't hear anything different at all from her that would change the US's perception to other contries.

That's the part that's really got to change. Our day-to-day local envorinment is very lax, free, and non-combatitive at all.. but our presence and face with other countries (under the current bozo administration) is the total opposite.

How is any other nation supposed to perceive us correctly when you still treat them like 4-yearolds in a sandbox? "I won't meet that guy, or that country unless its under my terms, conditions..etc..." has really got to stop. We've seen for 7 years the Bush administration with ZERO real diplomacy skills; cant see Hilary's being much of an improvement.

(oh and anyone who treats their SecretService detail like a bunch of baggage-carrying valets like she does can kiss off anyway)

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CitizenJ — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:10:22 GMT

"Why is it ok for Obama to not say he was totally against the war in 2004? WAR IS BIGGER THAN PARTISAN POLITICS - He should have had the courage then when not running for president - than now when running for President... sounds like Double Speak..."

Michael, Los Angeles (Sent Wednesday, November 14, 2007 12:31 PM)

You can't go on stage at the Democratic National Convention speaking on behalf of the Democratic nominee for President and rip his vote on Iraq. You just can't. That is what his quote is about.

He has never been unclear about his postition on Iraq. In 2002, he said he thought it shouldn't be fought. Russert pointed out that he wasn't in the Senate and didn't vote on it. Obama says he isn't privy to Senate intelligence reports, and so couldn't definitively say how he would have voted. Something tells me that, since he was against the war without the intelligence, he would have voted against it after reading the intelligence (not the "summary" that most of the irresponsible Senators read).

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PC, Seattle, WA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:11:12 GMT

Oh brother! Obama can't have it both ways. He held his tongue in 2004 because it "probably was the wrong time for me to be making a strong case against our party’s nominees’ decisions when it came to Iraq". Now that it is safe to be anti-war, he is. And he can parse his arguments all he wants to, but he is being intellectually arrogant to say that he was consistently against the war, especially when he never had those beliefs tested by having to vote yes or no. And where was he when it came time to commit to an anti-war position and vote against the Kyle-Lieberman amendment? Safely "away" campaigning for "change." Doublespeak, thy name is Obama.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:12:25 GMT

Travis, let's take this one at a time......

Talk bad about Hillary.....
If a woman cannot handle a question as simple as the one given by Tim Russert, how is she going to handle a ruthless moron like that idiot in Iran?

Bush lost every debate....
Then John Kerry and Al Gore are two of the biggest losers in the history of the democratic party. Hillary may join them very soon.

Maybe if Hillary was a little more honest and stop planting questions and try to read up on her briefing papers instead of letting college girls try and make her look good, maybe it would be a better world for your girl. Until she decides to have a serious debate, she better get ready, the REAL debate is coming and she does not pack the gear to hold a serious conversation about that.

Probably would be even better if she would stop letting her husband run her life!

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pat huntington ny — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:13:45 GMT

Travis, Louisville, Ky (Sent Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:00 PM)

.....Right on brother!

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just the facts, please — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:21:14 GMT

Has anyone heard ALL of the news reporting that ALL candidates occasionally plant a ques or two during campaigns? It's hardly unheard of and w/ only one ques in Nov and one in April, how does this rise even to the level of a story, considering when Bush is running, you can't even GET INTO a town hall meeting unless you are completely vetted and approved down to the last dot?
As for the person who states so authoritatively that they "heard" that Hillary has had all the questions sent to her in advance of the debate, I ask that you cite any sort of believable source for your charges or otherwise please remember the adage about the word "assume"

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:21:25 GMT

I wrote this late last night on another post and copy it here now. It's interesting that now that the momentum is shifting, the Hillary team sees fit to try to discredit Obama's claim to being against the war from the beginning. Well, they have good reason to fear his resurgence. Here's how it was in Claremont NH on Monday of this week.

I mentioned that I was in Claremont NH on Monday and watched Obama speak to a crowd of 500 in Stevens High School gymnasium. It was an intimate gathering, unlike the usual 10-20k crowds to which he's become accustomed.

The appearance by Obama was remarkable. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've admitted many times that I already have drunk the Kool-aide. And yesterday, I drank a little more. He was precise (there was no triangulating - he took specific positions on the war and on Social Security), he was inspiring bringing the crowd to boisterous applause on countless occassions. He was humerous, told his 'Fire it up! Ready to go!' story, poignant, telling us that his desire to conduct this campaign in the right way, outweighed his need to win - he said that he refuses to 'knee-cap Hillary' (and made me feel guilty for trashing her as I have on these sites - he even said that she was intelligent and a great public servant). But it was he who demonstrated his intelligence by clearly delineating his policy on education and health care.

I was there as a volunteer and while meandering around the room, handing out paraphernalia, I had the opportunity to observe the crowd's reaction. It was amazing- many converts from Edwards' and Hillary's camps (Is Joe Trippi next?).

Anyway, people who have read my posts know that I am unabashedly a Barack supporter so my comments should
be taken with a grain of salt. But sill, this is how I saw it. Barack is it. He is intelligent and inspirational. It is as if Gene McCarthy and Bobby Kennedy had had a child.

He is even more charismatic than was our Jack Kennedy, of almost 50 years ago. And that is because his story is more American, more compelling and because I suspect he doesn't have the character flaws that plagued John Kennedy.

I've been a political dawg since Kennedy's election, when I was 8 years old and I have to say that Barack is truly the most inspirational candidate to come along in almost 50 years. He is the right stuff and it's because he is genuine and thoughtful and intelligent and because he has such a compelling story that he is inspirational.

One other thing. I didn't get the whole story but the State Department had some young guests from foreign nations attending the rally. Two Israelis (one Palestinian and one Ethiopian?), two Phillipino women and two Kenyan women. The enthusiasm exhibited by these guests was palpable. The fact that the United States could be electing a president with such a world view (yes and that he was a person of color with a middle name of Hussein) was exhilarating for them. It moved me. Could Barack be the perfect storm? Not a catastrophic storm but the kind of storm that washes away all the heat and all the stagnant, bad air (of this present administration). Yes, Barack could be the kind of storm that would give us all a fresh start.

Those of you, non-believers, even the Hillary supporters, should take another look at Barack. A real look. He's worth it. We're worth it. The debate on this Thursday night could afford that opportunity. In any case, it will be interesting, that is if Wolf doesn't buckle under pressure.

Thanks for taking the time to read this, but I doubt that I came close to capturing the electricity that Barack generated in that gymnasium, on Monday.
Obama '08

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Sandy, San Francisco — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:22:14 GMT

Any courageous man or woman could have said this in 2004:

"Though I respectfully disagree with Senator Kerry about the war authorization in 2002, at this moment of time, he is the best person to lead us and America. Senator Kerry is a distinguished war veteran, he has made decisions based his experiences in life and that experience will help him steer American in the right direction once elected."

No harm in saying that. But Obama showed he isnt courageous by not standing up for his judgement and principle.

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Yiannis, Baltimore — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:24:40 GMT

"This post was planted by Hillary for President 2008"

Plant-gate will just not go away!!

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Fired up and going for Edwards in Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:27:23 GMT

The controversy over questions planted by Mrs. Clinton's staff will not go away. At an earlier event in Iowa, Mrs. Clinton accused an attendee who asked her a tough question of being a plant from another campaign (he wasn't). Hmmm. Why was she thinking about planted questions?

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Stu, Saginaw, MI — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:35:08 GMT

Travis:

Right on about Jerry. Actually, I think he's got the "HOTS FOR HILLARY", or a Hillary fettish.

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:38:37 GMT

Michael, Los Angeles ' ...You know what I can't wait for is Obama in the General Election - he is going to be eaten alive - First on letting illegals get driver liscenes.. 70% of the country does not want that...'

Michael, Obama and Edwards ARE NOT AFRAID TO ANSWER QUESTIONS !!
Hillary dances around them and doesn't answer, directly.
That would kill her in the General..... (IF she got the nomination)

Can't be afraid to answer questions or state you honest opinion, Michael

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Keith, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:39:06 GMT

Here's some important context from the Chicago Tribune article just before the convention:

Obama, a state senator from Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood, opposed the Iraq invasion before the war. But he now believes U.S. forces must remain to stabilize the war-ravaged nation--a policy not dissimilar to the current approach of the Bush administration.

The problem, Obama said, is the low regard for Bush in the international community.

"How do you stabilize a country that is made up of three different religious and in some cases ethnic groups, with minimal loss of life and minimum burden to the taxpayers?" Obama said. "I am skeptical that the Bush administration, given baggage from the past three years, not just on Iraq. . . . I don't see them having the credibility to be able to execute. I mean, you have to have a new administration to execute what the Bush administration acknowledges has to happen."

Seems to me Obama was saying that once we broke it (Iraq) we had an obligation to stablize it.

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Lynn, Millington — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:44:05 GMT

Mitchell Feldman from Vestal, NY

Thank you so much for that beautiful account.

Ironically, Senator Obama is the generational change our Country so longs for but when he speaks and the incredible things he says, it’s like we are back in the 1960's. He embodies President Kennedy, Senator Bobby Kennedy and Dr. Martin Luther King. He message to us now is so much like theirs from yesteryear. Dare I say it his vision for our Country is much like President Reagan's in the 80's. I pray that voters look within their hearts and realize this man is special. He is what we need.

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Michael, Los Angeles CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:44:54 GMT

I am glad people have drank the obama Kool Aid as one poster wrote...

And that's a good way to look at it - because you have to be on something not to see the truth. Read his books, look at the record not the rehortic.

How has he been a leader in the senate to end the war? Can anyone tell me how? Since he has been opposed to it since the beginning how has he used this wonderful power he speaks of to unite republicans and democrats. What has he done since entering the senate to lead on this very important issue - actually on any of the important issues facing us in this election -

Even on Iran where he has trash talked clinton - he didn't even show up to vote for it...

You don't have to like Clinton or vote for her - but don't have double standards on the label of leadership and experiance.

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Mike K, Denver — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:47:52 GMT

Hillary's camp shouldn't be throwing anything it can't take back. I'm sure that Edwards, Obama, and at least 2 or 3 others will mention the fact that her campaign had people in various audiences she's addressed ask her basically softball questions she could "knock out of the park" so to speak. From what I've heard and read, they were short of setting up cue cards for these people just so she could look slightly intelligent on issues such as global warming and Iraq. You'd think a 1.5 term senator would have SOME understanding of both those issues without needing to have their hand held by someone asking such an amateurish question.

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Mike K, Denver — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:49:15 GMT

<<She won't do it. She is such a strong woman having other men do her dirty work for her. First it's her hubby, then Strickland and now Mc Govern. Come on. She knows one thing once you hit Obama he will strike back. I can’t wait for the debate tomorrow. Especially, after Wolf Blitzer was warned not to be harsh on her like Russert was courtesy of Matt Drudge. If Blitzer is not nice CNN may not get that interview with the Clinton’s or they be banished from campaign coverage e.g. the G.Q. article that was ditched. >>

Great. Wolf Blitzer asking the questions. Speaking of lobbing softballs to Clinton...

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Steve, San Diego — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:50:16 GMT

Very nice post Mitchell. I think you captured the eseence of Senator Obama, and why so many of us will be supporting him. His presidency will be awesome.

I hope he does well tomorrow night in Nevada.

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Fired up and going for Edwards in Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:53:58 GMT

To Mitchell Feldman: Please explain how you can support Obama's vote on the trade deal with Peru? This action was opposed by most trade unions in the US and Peru and was also opposed by environmental and anti-povery groups. The multinationals are the only group likely to benefit from this deal. I suggest that you get the stars out of your eyes and look at some of Obama's recent actions.

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RAH — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:56:43 GMT

In response to "Fired up and going for Edwards" (that's obama's line by the way), I guess Hillary's aides might have told her there'll be plants in the audience, but Hil probably thought from other campaign intended to trick her. She didn't realize they were hers to ask soft questions. ha ha!

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TiBwa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:59:56 GMT

Sierra: He will eaten by who, Republicain? You better Chich your M***th.If Barack win this election GOP will wait at least 16 years before the get back to 1600 Pensylvania Ave. Trust me choddy!

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Mike K, Denver — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:59:57 GMT

<<Yet the word I'm hearing about the Edwards and Obama campaigns is DESPERATION. Can somebody please tell me what is going on with the Clinton campaign right about now? In 1 word please. Thanks in advance. >>

*spits iced tea* You're kidding me, right? The only desperation in the air is that of Hillary. Why else use someone outside her campaign to raise this issue and not come out with it herself??? It's a test to see if it is something worth bringing up at the debate tomorrow night. It's not. End of story. Obama has been so consistent with his anti-war stance that there really is no knocking him off of it. If Tim Russert couldn't do it, don't count on Wolf Blitzer OR Hillary to be able to.

She sees the numbers in Iowa. They're closer than she is comfortable with. People are now aware of her campaign's faux pas with the planted questioners and she now needs to get the spotlight off of her. She can't. People in Iowa do not like being deceived. They will remember this.

On top of that, as I've heard, while she has kept her TV messages positive, Hillary's phone campaigners are not quite as nice. The messages there about Obama are negative. Again, something that Iowans are not big fans of. Not a lot has been said about this as of yet, but I see that changing in the coming days.

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Maddy Ingram, Daytona, Florida — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:02:44 GMT

>>How can you critisize Hillary in one breath, praise Bush in the second, both for the same exact reason, and then say, after one debate minor slip-up, after Bush had handily lost every debate of both his primaries and both general elections as well? <<

Regarding debates, even Bush was more animated then Hillary ever has been in a debate setting. Bush easily outclassed both Gore and Kerry in his general election debates. Remember the 'attacking Gore' and the 'submissive Gore' in his debates with Bush. Gore seemed more like 'Sybil' in those debates. And who can forget the pompous a** Kerry in his debates with Bush.

Bush has taken on the best the Democrats could put up, and beat them all soundly. Even Cheney took both Lieberman and then Edwards to the wood shed in each of the VP debates.

Hillary is continuing the tradition of wooden and scripted debating from the Democrats. All of the media want her to do well, but you know, it's hard to ignore just how poor she is at debating. And it's not just 'one minor slip up'. It's been a problem for Hillary for years. She just doesn't show well in public settings. She does not come across as a real person or a sincere person. Hillary looks like some kind of conglomeration of what all her handlers want her to be.

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sonya, atlanta, ga — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:04:59 GMT

Isn't that what Colin Powell warned about before going into Iraqi. It reminds me of the old refrain, when you have lemons, make lemonade. When the war was authorized, I think the Bush adm had a small window of opportunity to make it a success but they blundered and mismanaged the war from the outset, not enough troops, not enough armor, no real reconstruction plan, disbanding the Iraqi army, and the list go on. Obama was correct in trying to put forth an agenda that could have worked but Bush's incompetence overroad everything.

When, I'm involved in a project at work, and disagree with my bosses decision, I don't throw gernades and try derail the project. I tell him my misgivings and trying to mitigate those misgivings as the project proceed. But I have been known to tell my boss that I didn't agree with his plan from the beginning, but did my best to make the project a success, but it's time to pull the plug because it's not working.

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Diamond — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:08:18 GMT

It is very clear why Obama made those comments then. He didn't want to make things any harder for the Democratic nominee and his running mate, both of who had voted to authorize the war and then opposed it when it became unpopular.

Offcourse, Democrats lost that election. That's unforunately the difficult position Democrats will place themselves in again, should they nominate another candidate who voted for the war before she opposed it. Ofcourse with the same consequence- losing the general election.

If Democrats have not learned this by now, then they deserve to lose every Presidential election.

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Sarah — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:08:45 GMT

Hillary doesn't have the courage to confront her opponents head on. She has to send the men in her campaign out to do her "dirty" work.

I have lost all respect for her and will never vote for her, even if she is the nominee.

When will she learn that we are tired of these same old politics as usual?

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Mike K, Denver — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:11:23 GMT

<<It's like taking attendance at the "I hate Hillary Club".
If you need any suggestions on how to arrange those deck chairs...

Van
>>

I'm sure Hillary ahs it all figured out already seeing how desperate her campaign is getting with all this re-hashed BS they're trying to throw out. When you reach a point in a campaign that you're throwing out things that are 6-9 months old and hoping that SOMETHING will stick, that's a sign you're up s--- creek without a paddle. Speaking of the Titanic, that is.

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Disgusted — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:13:53 GMT

Watch carefully the democrats. I have been a Dem. all of my voting life. I am so against the party and the stand of illegal immigration I will not vote for any dem. who supports putting our country at further risk. Hillary, Obama, Edwards are all for illegal immigration. Get rid of NAFTA, bring jobs back to the United States. Quit destroying our country and make it strong and respected in the eyes of the world. BRING OUR TROOPS HOME.

I love Tom Tancredo's ad it certainly is the truth.
Remember your children's future.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:14:40 GMT

The bottom line, to me, is that Obama talks a good talk but he does not walk the walk. What was the 2004 statement if not playing situational politics? Oh, I forget - it's okay to basically lie about your position (one which is so deeply held, mind you) if it is better for the party to do so.

Oh, wait a minute. Isn't Obama the one who keeps going on and on about changing positions to suit the situation or audience? I could have sworn I have heard him say that over and over recently.

Yeah, yeah, I know. What was he supposed to do? If he had said he disagreed with the war, it would have hurt Kerry and Edwards, right? I doubt it. Remember, at that time no one knew who Obama was. People are going to not vote for Kerry because of something a Senate CANDIDATE said in an interview? I don't think so.

But even if that was the case, I thought Obama was all about standing up for what you believe in, regardless of the political consequences. I thought he was all about doing what's right, not what is popular.

As a total side note, I caught some of Mika's interview with Michelle Obama and I was very impressed with her, much the same way that I am impressed with Elizabeth Edwards. What do you say we throw out the husbands and let the wives run instead? :)

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Dan, College Station, TX — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:23:15 GMT

Clinton - what a turn off. Obama has a lot of support from centrists like me. Clinton will never get my vote. Obama is my first choice. Edwards/Biden second choice. Then I might start to look at what third party candidates enter the race.

Obama shows all the leadership and experience needed to lead this great nation. Clinton - not so clear, she ain't no Bill.

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Mike K, Denver — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:24:22 GMT

<<Obama, the prince of the empty suit.
why as a senator has he done nothing, led nothing, been nothing except a canidate for president.

Don't you all relize he's never led, he's never even sponsered a peice of legislation in his career?

the gop wants him as the nominee , he'll be toast, and romney or rudy will be elected. >>

Maybe because he is intelligent, well-versed in both domestic and foreign policy, has ideas that aren't of an "attack first, ask questions later" position? We're sick and tired of the same old crap being offered up in Clinton, Guilliani (who is about to have his campaign rocked just as hard as Hillary is) and the other "politics as usual" crowd of people out there running.

It's time for some fresh air. Basically, the country is at the same crossing point we were in 1992 when we gave the reins to Clinton the first time after 12 long years of Reagan and Bush Sr ruining the country fiscally and otherwise.

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Dr Greg, Birmingham, AL — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:37:46 GMT

"It's like taking attendance at the 'I hate Hillary Club'. If you need any suggestions on how to arrange those deck chairs...

Van"

According to the surveys, there are about 150,000,000 members. Got any good suggestions with that many deck chairs?

- Dr. Greg

P.S. - When I first started reading this article, I could've sworn that Mr. Murray was the Clinton surrogate... :)

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Arshad, Newburgh, NY — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:38:30 GMT

Hillary is trying to catch straws in water to save her candidacy.

It's true Senator Obama said to Tim Russert during 2004 Democratic Convention when both Kerry and Edwards supported the war and Obama was attending the conference as the key note speaker. But Tim Russert did not complete his quote. He said Obama did not see the senate intelligence record, so he does not know how he would have voted if he has seen it. The next line was "But from my vantage point, they have not made the case for the war". It was an answer to protect the face of both democratic candidate while still supporting the judgment he made.

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David — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:46:05 GMT

I can only sum up what I'm reading here like this and I think that a lot of indies and registered republicans (like me) feel that.. : NOTHING WILL MAKE ME A REPUBLICAN FASTER THAN IF HILLARY CLINTON IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE. Please send me someone that I can vote for.. Barak Obama would be perfect.

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Catherine Devries — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:47:55 GMT

I hope Hillary takes Obama on tomorrow night during the debate and kicks his hypocritical behind. The Senator from Illinois is a moron.

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Chayce Dallas, TX — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:48:43 GMT

Mrs. Clinton was completely correct, accurate, wise, and on top of the issues...YOU GUYS ARE OBSESSED WITH HER. That's a confirmation and an endorsement!

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EdwardssSupporter — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:51:31 GMT

I think Edwards is a better candidate than Obama. He is forceful (with specifics, not fluff) and he had come up with all policy proposals before Obama. Obama just copied Edwards proposal and tried to change few things to look different (though Obama screwed up on Healthcare as he left out 15 million people).

Hence, people are unable to see the difference between Edwards and Obama. Even the Politics of Hope and change was Edwards slogan but Edwards backed it with real meat.

Edwards is much better equipped to bring about change than Obama.

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mary Davenport Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:54:23 GMT

Can somebody please tell me what is going on with the Clinton campaign right about now?In 1 word please. Thanks in advance.

Kristian O

SINKING

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bymyside, Long Beach, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:58:20 GMT

Obama did an EXCELLENT job on Meet the Press. He answered every question clearly, directly, and honestly. No avoidance, no evasiveness, no beating around the bush (pun intended). Can't say the same about Hillary, though!

We always know where he stands.
Honesty...how refreshing.

OBAMA '08

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Michael James -- Illinois — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:59:10 GMT

The Iraq war vote is a case study in the kinds of decisions a President must face -- serious consequences at stake, imperfect information, and passionate voices on both sides.

Despite all of that and the ease with which he might have joined the herd on not opposing the war, Barack had the foresight to know that it was a bad move and he did what he could about it at the time. Obama deserves a lot of credit, not only for opposing the war from the beginning, but also for the prescience he displayed in predicting the consequences.

That kind of judgment and foresight is what I want in my President. Highly preferable to looking at it in hindsight and saying "if I knew then what I know now..." as Clinton and others have said now that the political winds have shifted. Hillary didn't even bother to read the entire National Intelligence Estimate. Hasn't her "experience" taught her that you need to read the fine print?

Actually, I believe that the reason she didn’t read the NIE has more to do with her not wanting to appear too dovish during her impending Presidential campaign. Thus, reading the NIE would have been a complete waste of time for her since the facts of the case against Iraq had nothing to do with how she voted since the vote was intended primarily to put her in the middle with everyone else and not the result of serious study on whether or not the case for war had been proven. I don’t know what’s worse, the triangulation or the possibility that she had in her possession detailed analysis such as the NIE and chose to not be fully informed and not read it when trying to decide whether to send troops into battle.

Also, it should be pointed out that, once the war train leaves the station, the issue of the best way to oppose the war becomes a lot more complicated. With Bush still in charge as the commander in chief, bringing the war to an end is problematic. Stopping funding might sound like a good idea, but we need an orderly withdrawal, not a “cut and run” withdrawal or a withdrawal that involves starving our troops of the supplies and equipment they need to keep themselves alive and well. Calling Bush’s bluff on something like that could backfire.

If funding was cut, but Bush insisted on keeping up the fight, eventually more people would lose their lives than are already losing their lives. Even if you spin such a tragedy as being entirely Bush’s fault, is that really what you want? Barack Obama knows this, which is why his efforts in the wake of the invasion have been more pragmatic.

You can quibble about tactics for extricating ourselves from this mess, but the bottom line always comes back to the fact that, on the most serious issue faced by this country in recent memory, Barack Obama got it right.

I will take Barack's considered and demonstrated good judgment over "experienced" people like Rumsfeld, Cheney and Clinton every time.

The attacks from the Clinton camp will only get worse because the only hope for the Clintons is to get enough people to buy the fallacy of inexperience and/or to make them fearful of the alleged naiveté because the fact of the matter is that no candidate from any political party will be able to repair America's standing in the world as well as Barack Obama. No other candidate appeals to such a wide variety of people both within and without the United States. No other candidate has more sheer talent combined with the leadership skills and record of getting things done.

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christophe fiero, DC — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:59:12 GMT

So let call them Bill and Hillary Plantains. Is that fair?

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Rick, Madison — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:03:53 GMT

The great triangulator can't possibly win the general election, but she's unfortunately got a chance to win the nomination. Now she's taking a page out of the Bush play book of having surrogates attack other candidates while pretending to be positive. Then she cries foul when others respond to her attacks.

Hillary is just another political weasel.
We need different.
We need better.
We need Barack!

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Ellen — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:04:46 GMT

Jesse I think you called it. The Clinton campaign might just be imploding.

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Ciara, Paris france — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:12:14 GMT

Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY

Thank you for taking the time to write your impressions from the rally with Barack. As an American living abroad, I am extremely interested in this election and especially Barack. I am a strong supporter for all the reasons you mentioned and more. Although, I have respect for all the candidates to me they just are not as authentic as Barack. Perhaps because he has not been in the system long enough to be jaded. Perhaps his personal story so similar to mine and many others. For years I have held my nose wen I voted. I prayed for a day when I could vote with my heart and soul. Ans I will as mush as possible to make that day next November ! I hope to be able to see and hear him back home like you did? Thanks again !

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AConcernedCitizen, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:12:20 GMT

Can't be afraid to answer questions or state you honest opinion, Michael

Sierra, SF (Sent Wednesday, November 14, 2007 1:38 PM)

Sierra I agree. Obama was afraid to state his honest opinion on war during 2004. He just acted as a follower to get in the good books of Kerry and Edwards. He didnt show the principles a Presidential candidate should have.

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Adam, Sacramento CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:12:43 GMT

THe failure of the iraq votes wasn't in believing Saddam might be developing WMD. It was in believing a meglomaniac sunni nationalist who had worked his whole life to dominate the middle east would give such a weapon to his main opposition to that goal muslim fundamentalists.

Those running this year on their experience either are incompetent in not reaching that conclusion or voted for the authorization with different concerns than those expressed to the american people. That is the simple reason to not support the "foreign policy experts" of Clinton, Biden, or Dodd.

Either they aren't experts and completely failed to realize this or they are and voted as they did for other reasons they refused to express.

With a weapon he would have presented a trheat to kuwait, iran, saudi arabi and oil supply in general but that wasn't the case made for war. It was a nuke in NY city which ignored that he couldn't make suitcase weapons no matter what and he would never give them if he could to his main opposition for regional dominance.

There was no al quaeda link they can debate the WMD credibility but as a voter I cannot ignore how obvious that lack of a link was to such experts as some of our candidates claim to be.

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Kristian O — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:16:07 GMT

And we have Chris Dodd to thank for all of this. What happened was he forgot that he was auditioning for a Clinton Cabinet/VP position when he spoke out of turn annoyed by her double-talk on the illegal immigration issue. By the time he caught himself, it was too late. As they say, the rest is history. And necessary history too.

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AP from IL — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:18:58 GMT

To Mitchell from NY: Thanks for sharing that. I completely agree with everything you said. I'm also envious as I have never seen him in person although he is from my state.

There appears to be only one major argument against Obama and it's frustrating to me that we could make the mistake of passing on this guy just because he is new to the scene. There is such a thing as the right person for the moment. We may not have the luxury of waiting 8-12 years to address the problems he is willing to address today. I think we need him now.

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karen, Marion Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:19:05 GMT

"Has anyone heard ALL of the news reporting that ALL candidates occasionally plant a ques or two during campaigns? It's hardly unheard of and w/ only one ques in Nov and one in April, how does this rise even to the level of a story, considering when Bush is running, you can't even GET INTO a town hall meeting unless you are completely vetted and approved down to the last dot?
As for the person who states so authoritatively that they "heard" that Hillary has had all the questions sent to her in advance of the debate, I ask that you cite any sort of believable source for your charges or otherwise please remember the adage about the word "assume"

just the facts, please "

I have heard pundits claim "everyone does this" Last night on Hardball Joe Klein claimed everyone does this. Chris Matthews interrupted him and called him on it, and this is what was said:

JOE KLEIN, “TIME” MAGAZINE: * * * You have vast numbers of people in Iowa—and Chris, you know how this works. They don‘t like making up their minds until the very last minute. I‘ve always believed that at some point, there‘s going to be a gut-level, visceral decision about whether people want Hillary Clinton in their living rooms for the next four years. That decision hasn‘t been made yet. And I don‘t think it‘s going to be made on the basis of whether she‘s planting questions in audiences because, I got to tell you, everybody does that. And...

MATTHEWS: Who else does it?

KLEIN: Oh, I remember in 2004, I bumped into a woman at a—who asked the first question at a Kerry town meeting, who did it. Obviously, Bush does it with every last question during his town meetings. But it‘s just not unusual."

If you saw Klein's face he wasn't expecting to have to back up his statement with facts. I doubt Kerry had planted questions in 03/04. But he failed to mention a single current Democratic candidate. He claims Everybody does it. Well no one doubted Bush always did this, but Democrats aren't Bush. The one Democratic candidate he claimed he knew had done this is the 04 nominee.

Having lived in Iowa all my life, and having volunteered on dozens on congressional campaigns and at least 6 Presidential campaigns I have never seen a Democratic candidate plant an actual question in the audience. Do campaigns ask there supporters to come to events? Of course they do, because the bigger the crowd at an event the better. Do supporters ever ask an easy question that gives a candidate the opportunity to shine? Of course they do, but these are supporters who ask questions on their own, in their own words, because the supporter wanted to give the candidate a friendly question. Sometimes these same supporters will attend events of a candidate or their surrogate and ask a question to highlight the opponents weakness. They key being that the supporter does this on their own. Often an over zealous supporter will embarrass a campaign. In September a former ambassador was the Clinton surrogate at a "human rights" event. Several Richardson supporters asked totally inappropriate questions of the ambassador regarding why should they believe Senator Clinton when she lied about her husbands affair. These supporters were not only rude in their questions, but they stupidly took off the shirt that they had over their Richardson t-shirt. Few people attended the event as it was, but I doubt Richardson gained one new supporter, because of his campaign supporters childish and rude behavior. And Richardson's paid staffer didn't have the sense to distance himself from them.

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priscela,mrtn. view,ca — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:24:47 GMT

kids dont knoiw anything- we have to be wise up- we vote the most well experience and has strenght been thee and done that- n obama please- -we dont need job training- he could finsig his senate job then later run for pres. maybe in kenya where his dad was born. clinton been there dne that- good econmoy and surplus and know how to run this country so sos so good.
if youre wel off -has double job abd rich/millioniare or billioniares?vote republican.if your from africa kenya vote for oabma
if youre american black vbote for hillary- and asian and average guy/all dem voters has to wise up- u guy vote this time the dem hillary. if not dont cry about it ok
we have enough crumbled usa/crunmbled economic ;; bush messy war and etc.
hillary issue-health care for all- create job-maybe we have anohter surplus; bush spend money-republican
from clinton surplus to defficit.hope 99%independent/moderate and republican and em vote for hillary for the sake in this country.-ur phsychic comments.

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REAROSE.SUNNYVALE,CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:27:17 GMT

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Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:32:30 GMT

If he had said he disagreed with the war, it would have hurt Kerry and Edwards, right? I doubt it. Remember, at that time no one knew who Obama was. People are going to not vote for Kerry because of something a Senate CANDIDATE said in an interview? I don't think so. Carrie, Eastern Iowa

Boy you really hate Obama don't you. Try a little subtlety! Who knew Obama? Excuse me did you not watch the 04 Democratic National convention in Boston? He was the key note speaker, there was considerable attention to Obama before the speech. He was the only one running for Senate who the media had already declared the winner (including incumbents) If you really didn't know Obama before his speech, or during the convention you must have been hiding under a rock. But I suspect you did know him, and admired him until you saw him as a threat to Hillary.

Look I'm not a supporter of Obama, in that I'm caucusing for Biden and believe no other candidate comes close to Biden in intelligence, experience, candor etc. However, your desire to bash Obama every chance you get, is a bit old.

Anyone who doesn't realize why Obama hedged during the convention is either not being frank, or is not even a political novice. While I don't think his anti war speech was brave, because public opinion polls in Illinois in October 02 were against the Iraq vote, and Dick Durbin had already come out against the measure, and he was running for re-election to the Illinois state senate at the time, NOT the US Senate, the idea that a statement made to deflect anti war criticism from the Democratic nominee is disingenuous at best.

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Fired Up and Going for Edwards in Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:35:03 GMT

I would like to hear any Obama supporter defend Obama's recent vote on the trade deal with Peru.

And to the person who said that "Fired Up" was Obama's slogan: being from Iowa, I have heard "Fired up" and "Ready to Go" shouted over and over and over on several ocassions by Obama supporters in their highly orchestrated demonstrations. I am, however, fired up for Edwards because, for me, he is the real Progressive in this race. I don't believe that Obama's campaign can deny me the right to be fired up for another candidate!

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Keith, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:42:44 GMT

It's pretty clear from reading some of these comments, several of you need to drastically improve your reading comprehension skills (along with Rep.McGovern). Obviously your opposition to Obama is your right, but his words are plain enough that we don't need anyone's interpretation.

Again, HRC is clearly testing this line of attack out for the second time (I believe Bill tested it at an event in May 2007). It had no legs then; it has no legs NOW.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0407270351jul27,1,2375354.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed

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sd, ny, ny — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:44:25 GMT

Latest national poll results:

Clinton: 46%, Obama 21% and Edwards 11%

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/11/14/clinton-giuliani-hold-leads-in-national-poll/

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CitizenJ — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:47:34 GMT

I don't know about anyone else, but I am starting to think that it is going to take a lot more than what any of these candidates (or any one person) has to offer to turn our country around. Half of our country accuses the other half of being cowardly and unpatriotic. The 2nd half accuses the first half of being arrogant and devoid of any ability to reason (and of being unpatriotic). This doesn't bode well for the resurgence of our position in the world. In fact, it smells a lot like the decline of a superpower.

Our politics, and our society generally, seems to have turned into a zero sum game. If your party's candidate wins, the other party has to lose and be ridiculed for 4 or 8 years. It makes me a little sick to my stomach to think that I am living during perhaps the worst years our country has yet to see.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:49:17 GMT

Actually, at the rally in Claremont, Barack took on the question concerning his approval of the trade agreement with Peru. He stated that, in our opposition to the unenforceable components of CAFTA and NAFTA we should be careful not to become completely anti-trade. He said that he was satisfied that the provisions against unfair labor practices and pollution were enforceable in this trade agreement and that this allowed him to vote for approval.

As is his style and unlike the unthinking, politically expedient candidacies to which we have heretofore been presented, Barack has specific standards that give him to capacity to judge each issue on its particular merits. This is the thoughtful kind of presidency, the kind of intelligent leadership that we Americans should demand. This guy is the real deal.
Obama '08

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Ron Jeffers — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:50:04 GMT

Up until recently, I would have said that I will vote for any Democrat over any Republican, mainly out of disgust for what Bush and company have done. But if Hillary gets the Dem nomination, I may have to re-think that stance. She is starting to come off as very false and either afraid or incapable of answering questions directly. I am hoping that either Obama or Edwards win the Dem nomination, in which case I would happily support either in the general election. But if Hillary gets nominated......I may have to hold my nose and vote for either Guiliani or Romney.....God forgive me.

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csh, IL — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:51:04 GMT

"Imploding Campaign" Not according to all the latest national and state polls - still double digits ahead of the attack dogs Edwards and Obama. And still a tie in Iowa. Just like before the last debate. Sorry haters - Hillary is still standing STRONG!!

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LEX — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:51:05 GMT

I don't have anything agianst either one of them, but Obama lacks substance and Hillary is too involved with corporations to make good choices

Both of them couldn't make the commitment to having troops out by 2013 maybe later, both won't rule out strikes with Iran??? both plan to raise taxes

why bother voting for either one?

I'm in between Biden or Paul

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Abraham, SF, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:51:10 GMT

The Heat like you said HRC, come defend your self little girls against the boys. Where is the strong woman I heard all along?
Obama. take back site because HRC will detroy herself without you.
VIVE OBAMA

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nashuavoter — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 20:53:42 GMT

Obama never had to make the hard decision whether or not to support the war. If you remember back then, if you didn't support Bush you were against the troups and soft on national security because of the rhetoric coming from the White House. If you weren't in the senate then you shouldn't be judging how others voted.

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Keith, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:02:37 GMT

Fired Up and Going for Edwards in Iowa:

I don't believe there has been a VOTE on the Peru Deal in the Senate. While I don't know much about it, it seems that what came out of the House was much improved in terms of labor and environmental protections. Not perfect, but a definite improvement over the original bill. Maybe the version that comes out of the joint session between the Senate and House (assuming it passes the Senate) will be better.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/08/AR2007110800208_pf.html

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Lisa Hamming, Omaha — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:02:52 GMT

>> Obama never had to make the hard decision whether or not to support the war. <<

Right. And Hillary has made the tough choiceson the war. First she was for it. Then she was against it. Then she votes for the funding. Then against it. The tough part, for her at least, is trying to convince everyone that she actually believes in something.

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CitizenJ — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:06:31 GMT

"If you weren't in the senate then you shouldn't be judging how others voted."

nashuavoter (Sent Wednesday, November 14, 2007 3:53 PM)

So, are you saying that nobody who has never been in the Senate can judge a Senator on his/her voting record? That makes absolutely no sense, no matter who you are supporting.

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Keith, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:10:05 GMT

One's decision shouldn't be influenced by what someone else will or will not say, but based on logic and reason. I wasn't in the Senate either and I don't think that should preclude me or anyone else from criticizing any Senators' vote.

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Terri, Plantation, FL — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:13:00 GMT

Oh, I hope she tries this... I really do. This is once again the Karl Rove/Mark Penn tactic of turning the focus on pure garbage about the opponent so the focus is off your own pathetic record. Rove did it endlessly, and Mark Penn has been doing the same. It's truly revealing about how this woman would operate in the White House.

Please, Please, Hillary... go there at the debate. It's about time we sent you packing and had the focus on deserving candidates.

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Steve Johnson New York — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:15:59 GMT

Russert misleadingly cropped Obama comment to claim he wasn't "firmly wedded against the war"

''But, I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports,'' Mr. Obama said. ''What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.''

http://mediamatters.org/items/200711110004?f=h_latest

2002 Barack Obama Interview: Against Iraq war

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po

Barack Obama on Iraq, Opposition from the Start

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhpKmQCCwB8

Barack Obama's Stirring 2002 Speech Against the Iraq War

http://usliberals.about.com/od/extraordinaryspeeches/a/Obama2002War.htm

Obama is a true leader and was against the Iraq war from the beginning!

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Fired Up and Going for Edwards in Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:27:17 GMT

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Disillusioned — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:47:27 GMT

I am from ILLINOIS. OBAMA Sucks, DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM. He does not speak the truth and talks out of both sides of the mouth. Illinois does NOT LIKE HIM or DURBIN.

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nashuavoter — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:51:47 GMT

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MacKenzie, Philadelphia, PA — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:56:15 GMT

New Research shows Obama beating Clinton in online participation

Highlights:

*Obama's blog is updated almost three times as frequently as Clinton's and has generated 73,566 comments over the course of the campaign – 64,186 more than Clinton's 9,380 comments.

*Obama's lead in internet participation has grown in recent months as Clinton's has fallen. Last month, users of Obama's website posted 20,665 comments to Clinton's 868. One possible explanation of the gap is the different policies the campaigns utilize on their websites. Obama's campaign posts all comments and allows users to flag inappropriate comments for review. Clinton's campaign makes use of a moderator, not posting comments until they have made it past the campaign's censor.

Read the full release, including data, graphs and analysis at http://www.mackenziemoritz.com/

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Fired Up and Going For Edwards in Iowa — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:03:16 GMT

Keith in San Francisco: I stand corrected (and welcome your correction) in suggesting that Obama had voted on the Peru Trade Deal passed by the House. However, I believe that I am correct in that Obama has stated his support for this bill (presumably he will vote for it). If it passes the Senate, we can hope for a better version out of the joint House-Senate deliberations. However, all of this begs the question: why is Obama supporting this bill? Mitchell's response (sort of that we can't be against all trade) was not at all satisfying. I hope that you and Mitchell will provide a more robust response.

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akhinaten, Sweden — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:05:54 GMT

Acting tough and the wisdom of fear.

If you are not troubled by Hillary’s reaction to the unveiling of her double nature then you are deluding yourself.
Ok! We would all like to vote for Obama but are scared of BIG Daddy republican.

But there are other alternatives, don’t be fooled in to a false choice. Edward is a good choice, if your conscience cannot allow you to vote for Hillary and your fear of republican reaction cannot allow you to vote for Obama.
Are we an alternative to them, if we are so frighten by their behaviour that we rather vote for someone like them instead of someone who champion our ideals.
We tried to vote for the tough idiot who thinks and acts like Binladin, what did it get us?
If we are going to lose which we will, if we vote for Hillary. Lets us lose being who we are, instead of charlatans trying to out-hawking the hawks.
Just as Hillary cannot be more black then Obama, even if she (patronisingly) tries to muddle here grammar in front of black audience (massage Ebonics is OK).
We cannot be an alternative, if we are the other-republican party and indeed it is not a democracy if you are afraid to stand for your ideals for fear of losing votes.

Please stop settling for what the cynics say that we have to settle to win, because, her name only, would galvanize the republicans that she so desperately emulates.
Mark my words Hillary will starts wars she will not end them, this is a little girl acting tough.
And the people who act what they are not tend to exaggerate their performance.

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jan, sweden — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:18:40 GMT

if he is having such an impact that Billary is scared he must be doing something right.
OMG they know something we dont know, the Hillary camp is losing

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shoelessj2004@aol.com — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:40 GMT

The shame of this is that my post will get buried on the 2d or 3rd page, in response to jerry, mitchell, and sierra.
All three are DESPERATE at this point because Hillary is winning, and because nothing they say is changing anybody's mind.
Hillary probably should be considered the underdog at Thursday night's debate, after her less than stellar performance in the last one.
But, please remember that Obama and Edwards haven't exactly lit up the scoreboard either. In fact Obama has made some serious flubs, especially his pledge to sit down and negotiate with terrorists from Iran.
Let's see which Obama shows up. The one who couldn't decide if he would allow Iran to have nuclear weapons or not, or the one who uses 1990's neo-con tactics to attract attention to himself.
As for Edwards, I hope he goes out and gets himself another one of those $400.00 haircuts. Geeze, I guess he's right about their being two Americas, and their isnt any doubt which one HE lives in!

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pmorlan — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:12:51 GMT

Hilliary surrogates are not just out there after Obama they are also going after Edwards.

On CNN Paul Begala & James Carville actually are part of the Situation Room. They get a chance to "comment" on the campaigns when they are Clinton supporters. Real fair, huh.

On Tucker the other night you should have seen Peter Fenn (another Clinton supporter) yucking it up with Bob Franken & Tucker about Edwards & Kucinich. Watching a Democratic strategist trying to destroy another Democrat while appearing on the Tucker show of all places was absolutely pathetic. After watching that I certainly don't want to hear from any holier than thou Hilliary supporter complain that John Edwards calls Hilliary to account on the campaign trail. At least Edwards doesn't plant "fake" commentators on shows to pretend that they are legitimately giving analysis about the campaign. They are Clinton supporters and they very rarely disclose that they are. They try to mislead the audience into believing their Hilliary talking points are objective comments. What a sham.

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diane — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:40:18 GMT

mitchell, thanks for your post. you captured the exact feelings Obama supporters have for this candidate.
I have been a committed obama supporter since he ran for the senate here in Illinois.
this guy is smart, savvy and has experience. it's just that the press put in people's minds that the state senate does not count when being a first lady doing - who knows! - is counted.
this country needs Obama to be president.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 01:05:45 GMT

Fired Up and GFE:

I am generally suspicious of trade agreements as I feel that, for the most part, they favor the corporations at the expense of working Americans. This suspicion (I think well-founded) demands that when leaders enter into these agreements, they are careful that said agreements are well thought out, so that they benefit the people of this country.

There are trade agreements that wind up providing a net benefit to our workers by opening up markets overseas. Here is a portion of an editorial in the NYT on 11/07/2007 that supports approval of the Peruvian trade agreement:

"Democrats are right to worry about the stagnation of workers’ wages and to be concerned about those who lose their jobs because of increased competition from cheaper labor overseas. But these problems should be addressed through better education and training, a more robust social safety network and more progressive taxation to mitigate the impact of stagnating wages. Throttling trade would hurt more people than it would help.

The Peruvian deal would help expand trade between Peru and the United States, which today stands at about $9 billion. It would give American businesses greater access to Peru’s markets in everything from grains to tractors and other machinery.

Perhaps more important, the agreement would strengthen an essential ally in the combat against illegal narcotics in the Andes and tighten relations with one of the United States’ few remaining friends in South America — where Venezuela’s Hugo Chávez is gaining allies by spreading oil wealth around. In an open letter, all eight living former secretaries of state urged Congress to approve the Peru deal."

I think that Barack's point, as a thinking leader, is that this agreement has implications that are multi-faceted in the geopolitical scorecard and that all of these factors must be taken into account. I make no pretense of being an expert on foreign trade but I think that Obama, being aware and against the pitfalls that we encountered with NAFTA and CAFTA felt satisfied that his concerns were being met with this agreement.

As president, the interests that he will represent, must be broader than the more focused concerns of the AFL-CIO (and I sympathize with their concerns as well - I'm from a labor family). But, this is where trust in leadership comes in. I happen to believe that Obama is making this judgment in 'good faith'. It is also my understanding that any trade agreement should and can be cancelled, if it proves to be a net detriment to our interests.

I should end by saying, Fired Up, that my point wasn't only that we should avoid being completely anti-trade but that with proper precautions, trade agreements can benefit this country (my primary concern is the middle class of this country - I am not one who supports corporate sops). Knee jerk reactions to the term 'trade agreements' could be as detrimental to the American worker as entering into them with corporate blinders in place.
Obama '08

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James G., Oak Park, MI — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:39:20 GMT

Mitchell: Is it true that Obama released a statment to the effect that he would support the Peru trade deal because it contained the labor and environmental standards that were being sought by the AFL-CIO? The AFL-CIO did not endorse this deal because it did not meet their standards in these regards (you can check their on-line site about this if you doubt me).
Fired Up and Going for Edwards in Iowa (Sent Wednesday, November 14, 2007 4:27 PM)

Someone posted on an earlier comment a link to a Washington Post article regarding his vote. In the article, the spokesperson for the AFL-CIO said they did not oppose this particular treaty, but had concerns on some other treaties that the Administration is trying to push.

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Ron, TX — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:50:07 GMT

Obama's full remarks were STILL not in favor of the war. How ignorant. How many people actually read it all that are still acting like he changed his mind?

From the same 2004 convention question on Iraq: Please note the important part that comes after "I don't know" which McGovern eloquently left out of his attack:

'But, I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports,' ... 'What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point **the case was not made**.' ...'What I **don't think** was appropriate was **the degree** to which Congress gave the president **a pass** on this,' he said."

Nowhere in that question and answer does Obama say that the war was good, nor does he even IMPLY that the war was the right choice. At MOST, he implies that if he had some kind of secret intelligence, it may have changed his mind, but Congress didn't have any secret intelligence. No one in Congress even READ the classified reports. They all knew just as much as Obama. And he still says that Congress gave Bush a free pass. He still says that it didn't look like the right thing to do given the information he knew. The info he knew was the same Congress knew.

No problems here. The Iraq War Vote is the LAST thing the Clintons really want to be talking about. Obama will smack them down harder than he already does.

BARACK OBAMA '08

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steven beam — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 02:57:05 GMT

Stop planting questions?? there isn't one campaign that doesn't do the same thing..no matter what they say! it's just a very simple way to get across a point you want to make sure gets across. for those of you who think that their choice candidate doesn't do the same thing, wake up!. it's funny that this site must be the only site for the hillary haters. why is it that 4 out of 5 democrats think hillary is ready to be president and only 2 out of 5 think obama is?why is she leading in every poll at every time since her campaign began? do you really believe that a democrat is going to go out and vote for rudy when hillary becomes the nominee? your arguements are shallow and without any basis. you attack hillary for things she said or didn't say, for positions she stands for or doesn't stand for and yet you offer up nothing from your candidate that is going to win the presidential election. running a general election campaign is one of the smartest things a candidate can do. hillary is in this to win this and she is doing a great job and running a great campaign. funny when they have polls on this site about who won a debate you all vote obama. then they ask who had the most prepared answers, you say hillary. forgive me for saying so, but the whole idea of a debate is to be prepared and to have answers ready. you act like it's a negative thing to be prepared for a debate. it just speaks to the point that you are all out of touch with what is really going on in this world. take the time to really research the issues and find out which candidate offers up the most realistic and acheivable answers and not just some cute soundbites. 7 years ago there was a candidate that pledged to change things in washington and bring people together, a "uniter not a divider", and look where we are now. people you should wake up and hop on board with a proven candidate...notice all the things you said here are the same things all the attack machines said about her in her run for the senate, yet she won overwhelmingly, even in the heavily republican districts. do you think there was a reason for that? it was because people finally decided to leave their unwarranted hatred behind and listen to what she had to say. vote hillary '08 and vote for a winner.

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Abdul Maalik — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:55:45 GMT

All Muslims should vote for Osama. He is the only Muslim candidate. We have a duty towards our brothers in Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria, etc. If we support him, then things will become better for Muslims in America, Iraq, Iran and elsewhere. Clinton is a Christian and she will not look after our interests.

Barack Osama Hussein '08!

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Fired Up and Going for Edwards in Iowa — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:34:05 GMT

Mitchell Feldman: My primary concern also is the middle class and the economically disadvantaged. You are very eloquent and your complete trust in Obama's judgement is no doubt an advantage to his campaign. However, here in the Upper Midwest the erosion of manufacuring jobs has hurt us badly. Not just the loss of jobs and the resulting impact on families, but when companies pull their manufacuring operations from communities, the communities lose leadership for vital community-enhancing efforts. Yesterday our small local newspaper had two articles side by side. One focused on Obama's recent attacks on Edwards in Iowa -- questioning Edwards committment to labor. The adjacent article quoted the president of the Machinist's and Aerospace Workers to the effect that as a US Senator Obama "never lifted a finger to help stop the outsourcing of those jobs." He was referring to keeping the Maytag plant in Galesburg, Illinois. He also stated "As Sen. Obama's rhetoric flourished, his own constituents' lives dissolved." Of course a President must be able to take a broad persepctive when making a decision. But the Peru trade deal will be one of many coming down the pike, and Obama needs to be very thoughtful in his support for these deals if he hopes to retain credibility as a advocate for the middle class.

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Lek — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 16:58:06 GMT

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Harmony — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 22:48:49 GMT

OBAMA A BLACK GUY- A MUSLIM- NEED JOB TRAINING. SARCASTIC/BELLEGERENT/ BIG VOICE ;LIKE A COW/DOGMATIC/
CHAUVENISTIC AND COMPLACENT- EAILY IRRITATED AND EASILY ANGERED-WHEN HE SPEAK LOOK LIKE A GUY SADAM HUSSINE-HILTER OF COURSE SAME ZODIAC SIGN OX YEAR BORN DIFFERENT BIRTHYEAR

Rearose,
You are sadly a victim of FOX news. You are so totally misinformed. You did get one thing half right though, Obama is half black. Yopu are so far off it's pretty funny actually.