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Gene, Raleigh NC — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:42:45 GMT

"Backers of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich almost seemed to match them in numbers."

Yep, that's par for the course for a the "front running" candidates.

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Don Jen — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 03:52:02 GMT

"Backers of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich almost seemed to match them in numbers." Are you kidding me? Paul's crowds blow Giuliani's away. 5000 people showed up in Philadelphia recently. 2000 people showed up at any Iowa rally. The same for Las Vegas ..and so on.

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Robert Johnson — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:00:49 GMT

No kidding. BTW - Ron Paul's crowds are normally in the hundreds. I was at the Reno rally and there were over 600 people. The day prior in Las Vegas there were over 1200 people.

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Brian Godley, Los Angeles, Ca — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:07:52 GMT

I think the attendance speaks volumes. He has ridden on his 9/11 celebrity and gotten pretty cocky with the polling percentages. However, his campaign is not generating the buzz that Paul and Huckabee are. Though his numbers seem to hold nationally he is losing ground in many states.
His strategy is to focus on the big states thinking he doesn't need Iowa, New Hampshire or South Carolina. This could prove to be quite a mistake. Contests are often won based upon momentum and if he continues to fall in those states to the point where he really tanks in the primaries it will most certainly affect California and Florida where he is already losing ground.

Call me nuts but from the looks of it I think the Republican nomination will come down to a race between Paul and Huckabee.

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Allan Bartlett — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:10:30 GMT

Get used to Ron Paul supporters Rudy. They are everywhere in NH.

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FZappa, Baltimore, MD — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:12:11 GMT

Giuliani's alleged popularity is a lazy media and crooked pollster-driven mirage.

We're really supposed to believe that this guy is the frontrunner? He draws crowds in the dozens wherever he goes; Ron Paul draws crowds in the high hundreds or thousands. He has fewer than 100 meetup.com members; Ron Paul has 70,000. His "fundraising schedule" consists of small, private events where $2,300 donors in the legal, financial, and military-industrial complex sectors bomb him with pay-for-play special interest cash, which is simply legalized bribery; Ron Paul's campaign gets much smaller donations from many more people. The Ron Paul Forums have 7,000 members; there is no such thing as a Rudy Giuliani Forum because no one has bothered to create one.

There is no enthusiasm for Giuliani from the American people. None. His "frontrunner" status is a lie.

Ron Paul 2008.

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Tess, California — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:18:30 GMT

Giuliani needs to be stopped, he is worse than George Bush. The only sound of reason in the Republican Party is Ron Paul

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Angelo, Pittsburgh,PA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:19:51 GMT

Duh...."Giuliani’s crowds disappoint. And the mainstream media has started to notice."

In the rain - in the cold - they packed Independence Mall and the supporters picked-up the tab.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronpaul2008/sets/72157603145107465/

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Bill Faust — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:20:12 GMT

He didn't pay anyone to attend, so they didn't.

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Jennifer — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:21:09 GMT

www.ronpaul2008.com

"Ron Paul for family farms (No NAIS)"
"No taxes on tips"
"Veterans for Ron Paul"

www.jews4ronpaul.org

Digg this: Ron Paul has highest support of the Republicans with black voters: http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_is_Highest_Polling_Republican_Among_Black_Voters_2

So many people from so many walks of life love Ron Paul!

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Tess, California — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:22:27 GMT

Well, maybe mainstream media should notice the number of Americans that are behind Ron Paul and Kucinich because we are tired of business as usual in our government, and we want a President who will follow "We The People" and not the big corporations or special interest groups. We want to preserve our country, and protect the citizens.

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Eric Nelson — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:24:37 GMT

In stark contrast to the energy and passion of Ron Paul supporters.

Now here this: Ron Paul will win the republican nomination for president. The presidential election will be Ron Paul at >70% of the vote.

Peace, Liberty and Prosperity for all Americans.

Ron Paul '08 & '12!
It's the American thing to do.

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Ward Ciac, New York, NY — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:26:25 GMT

We Ron Paul supporters are passionate and highly enthusiastic, which cannot be matched by the supporters of any other top-tier candidate. The reason is that all the other top-tiers are ho-hum same old thing - Neocons, statists who want global empire and less freedom and liberty for the individual, tax and spenders, flip-floppers. Who can get excited about that? I'm surprised even two dozen showed for Rudolph. Maybe he was giving away free hamburgers. Whereas, Ron Paul is potentially another George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. We believe he will restore government the way it was meant to be - of, by, and for the people. And that's exciting.

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Melinda Pillsbury-Foster — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:26:55 GMT

Was Rudy in drag for the occasion? Or perhaps the NYFD send a contingent to urge him to cross the border into Canada and never return, that would be a nice touch.

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Almost Speechless — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:35:37 GMT

No disrespect for Dennis but I have yet to see a Kucinich supporter at any other rally then there own.
Seems like a spin piece to make the two long shots are somehow equals.

Ron Paul has a message of constitution and individual liberty. Kucinich has a different view of the constitution with huge social Govt.

Get used to it Rudy, your time has come (9/11) and gone. The country has spoken we dont want a Big Govt Repub in the white house.

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p167/FvckStick/rudypaul_dees.jpg

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nullvalu, Chicago IL — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:38:41 GMT

"And the mainstream media has started to notice."

It's about time...

Ron Paul 2008

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Lynette, NYC — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:38:45 GMT

I am a new yorker who lived under rudy's regime.. please please please dont fall for this loser's BS. he is a tyrannical meglomaniac who will make georgie look good. he is taking the worst thing that ever happened to NYC and this country and using it. If you have to vote GOP vote for paul....... or dont vote at all...

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Aaron Voisine, Santa Clara, CA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 04:51:48 GMT

I think the author meant that Ron Paul and Kucinich supporters match the Giuliani supporters *at Giuliani's own rallies*. Ron Paul gets thousands wherever he goes. He's also likely to raise at least twice the money Giuliani does this quarter.

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Jimmy — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:00:51 GMT

3 things of Jiuliani - verb, noun, and 911. There is really nothing else from his mouth.

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robin — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:01:36 GMT

well, they won't be able to keep up the lie much longer.
cat's out of the bag. the question is what they're going to do next. most likely the name calling and attacking will begin.
hunker down in the trenches folks....

Ron Paul 08!

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Trevor, California — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:03:54 GMT

Rudy's campaign spends money lavishly, like big government. In visits to Southeastern New Hampshire his campaign enjoys the high life at one of the nations premiere historic hotels, The Wentworth by the Sea Hotel and Spa. His over publicized visits to local diners with common people is pure show.

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Lorenz, Queens, NY — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:19:56 GMT

Maybe the mainstream media should focus more on Ron Paul then? Something to think about with a comment like this; "Backers of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich almost seemed to match them in numbers."

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Christy, texas — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:32:24 GMT

Ron Paul will surprise people, in spite of the media
either trivializing or ignoring him.

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Mike, San Antonio — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:34:43 GMT

Guess what America.... The message of FREEDOM is out of the bottle and more and more Americans are realizing that we don't have it. Rudy is not the answer to what ails America. Ron Paul is.

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Ben — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:38:57 GMT

Geeze, I came to this article to read about Ron Paul, and its about Giuliani. BORING. Give us more Ron Paul interviews, I can't get enough of them.

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Go Rudy Giuliani — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:42:55 GMT

Well Im a Rudy supporter. I admit there isn't many of us, but once people relize only Rudy is willing to Nuke Iran and save us from the terrorist, they are sure to support Rudy.

To the person who said there isn't a Rudy forum, yes there is http://www.rudygiulianiforum.com

So if you want to show your support for the hero of 911, be sure to join the forum.

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Eric V. ,Trucksville,PA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 05:58:32 GMT

"IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE GIULIANI SUPPORTERS WILL LOOSE HOPE AND COME OVER TO THE WINING TEAM"(RON PAUL,BABY, 2008!!!!!)

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Cameron Memphis, TN — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:00:24 GMT

I attended a GOP lunch in South Carolina where Dr. Paul spoke, and there were over 400 people there. There is no doubt that Paul and Obama draw the biggest crowds. I think what this article was saying is that at this particular Giuliani speech, there were as many Paul and Kucinich supporters as Rudy supporters.

Go Ron Paul! I hope we raise $10 million on December 16th.

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None-Ya-Damn Business — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:05:58 GMT

Stop censoring candidates.

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Nick, Clifton Park, NY — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:15:27 GMT

Rudy and Hillary are the so-called front-runners yet in my many months of blogging and reading about all candidacies, I haven't met a dozen people that support those two, combined. And I live in New York!

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DevilsAdvocate — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:21:44 GMT

Wait til Dec 16th Rolls around... Ron Paul is going to make another historical day out of the Ron Paul Tea Party - please donate that day at least $100 (or whatever you can) check out the event at www.teaparty07.com

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Scott Kee — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:21:52 GMT

> Are you kidding me? Paul's crowds blow Giuliani's away.

Maybe he meant that more Ron Paul supporters show up at Giuliani events than do Giuliani supporters?

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JeffnDallas — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:24:04 GMT

Not surprising. I flew up from Dallas to Ron Paul's rally in Philadelphia, as did several other supporters from Texas I know. I SERIOUSLY doubt anyone is flying anywhere to hear Rudy or Mitt or Fred. If you guys in the media want REAL numbers, just follow the Ron Paul campaign around. There were 5,000 outdoors in a cold field/mall in Philly the day I was there and NO ONE was moving! If anything, they got there EARLY to assure them a spot on the mall that day!

When is the media going to "notice" THIS response?! The guy is pulling thousands wherever he goes!

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Joe McNally — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:27:50 GMT

The media and the polls are totally manipulated. Occasionally an authentic story like this escapes the MSM censors. CBS,ABC,NBC,PBS,MSNBC, Fox and all the rest are bought and payed for. The fourth estate is dead. America is dying at the hands of the greedy corporatists.

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Kevin Conness, Cedar Park, TX — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:34:34 GMT

This is a perfect example on why the MSM is out of touch with the American People. For months they have been promoting Rudy as frontrunner because of polling data of the 6% of Republicans that voted for Bush in 2004. The MSM should go out and look at the crowds and actually do some reporting. They will find that Ron Paul is actually the frontrunner. Thank you.

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Jamie Jackson, Salem, OR — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:35:57 GMT

I've met a total of 3 or 4 Giuliani "supporters" here in Oregon, and their enthusiasm was quite tepid. By contrast, every time we hold up our Ron Paul signs, people smile, wave, honk, and even yell "RON PAUL!!" at us as they go by. Not everyone... yet... but he's catching on, I'm tellin' ya. The energy is building every week.

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Patrick Krott — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:37:14 GMT

some of you are mistaken. The article was implying that there were an equal number of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich supporters AT THE GIULIANI RALLY!

I don't think anyone other than Obama can come close to Ron Paul's rally numbers.

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Alexander, Washington DC — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:47:19 GMT

Ron Paul Rallies are very inspiring I recommend anyone who wants to become part of the greatest political shift in this country to take part!

Peace, Prosperity, and Libery!

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Ian, WI — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:49:34 GMT

Thanks for "noticing"!

Poor "mainstream media," slow to the story, as usual. The emperor has no clothes, and Giuliani has no supporters. Not much longer until even free cake won't be enough to drown out the little voice saying so...

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Doug D — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:50:49 GMT

Giuliani's "front runner" status is the biggest joke in the campaign. He's only leading in two areas -- random telephone surveys of people who don't know what's going on, and in donations from big money types who think he's the front runner.

Giuliani has won almost no straw polls where people actually have to show up to vote for him, and generates barely any excitement on the campaign trail.

Look up "Ron Paul rally" on YouTube.com if you want to see what a top tier candidate appearance is supposed to look like.

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Steven Avila, Los Angeles, CA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:12:10 GMT

When will Ron Paul begin to get more publicity for these events he is having?

Thank you MSNBC for mentioning his name but the more the merrier. Please give him just as much time as you do with Hilary, Rudy, or other "Front runners"

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Chet Thomas — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:15:05 GMT

"Backers of Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich almost seemed to match them in numbers." ** At a rally for Giuliani ** I think most people didn't catch that, Ron Pauls supporters outmatched Giuliani's Rally....

Obviously Ron Paul Rally's usually draw 5,000 - 10,000 (but this article was talking about Paul and Kucinich supporters at a giuliani rally).

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Jason B — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:16:27 GMT

I think they mean that at Giuliani's events, there are as many Ron Paul supporters present as their are Giuliani supporters. Which is awesome!

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Barbara, Illinois — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 07:49:14 GMT

Lets bake a cake: Giuliani for the fruit. Huckabee for the nuts. Ron Paul for the YEAST! Ron Paul or Dennis, or better yet, running together. Thrown the bums out!!!

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TheOneLaw — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:00:36 GMT

FZAPPA said:
"there is no such thing as a Rudy Giuliani Forum because no one has bothered to create one."

Not exactly correct, see
http://www.rudygiulianiforum.com/

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Oklahoma City, OK — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:00:36 GMT

Giuliani is the media's darling. Have you seen his 10 commitments? Check out his website, he says he wants to lower taxes, but then says he wants to form all these new agencies to make sure things happen!? Can we trust the guy that really did nothing but take the credit for and spin the 9/11 response in NYC. Please!!

Ron Paul wants everyone to have equality and success. But doesn't think the gov should prefer one person or class or industry over the others (by not interfering with any of them). Think for yourself, don't let the media do it for you. Vote for FREEDOM! Ron Paul!

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xtrabiggg — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 09:25:38 GMT

Interesting how MSNBC and other news outlets report on the amazing Ron Paul campaign Rally crowds on their websites (grudgingly), but fail to give the proportionate coverage on their broadcast outlets! I swear my rubber TV brick is rubbing smooth from every time I see rudy talking to a crowd of 30 or so people in a coffee house (half of which are paid staffers) while Ron Paul is speaking to hundreds or thousands in the same town, with no coverage whatsoever.

Here's a clue to all you Journalism School wonders: large crowds indicate large grassroots support! Not only that, those are the type of people that are motivated to go and VOTE- not the geriatric Bush supporters that Pollsters like Frank Luntz are so fond of calling and aasking for an 'unbiased opinion'. The paradigm has shifted, and technology and voter attitudes have far outstripped the pace at which the 'old media' is able to cover it. Get on the bus in the 21st century, abandon those outmoded polls that have failed you in the last twoPresidential Elections and COVER THE CANDIDATES< THIER MESSAGE AND THEIR SUPPORTERS! People could care less who the talking heads at the roundtable think is moving up or down 3 points- they want to hire a man for the job as President- not elect the next 'American Political Idol'! WHen you interview a person for a job, you don't go around the office and ask everybody what they think of the guy (especially if you won't allow them to hear where he stands on anything!). You ask pointed, insightful questions about what his record is, what he wants to do and how he will do it. And asking a Presidential Candidate where he stands on Abortion, Gay Marriage and other issues that the President has little influence on is like asking a mayoral candidate how he feels about pollution in China. I'm sure he'll give you an opinion, but he has no power to influence that subject at all! Stick to the facts. Cover the issues. Leave the beauty contest to American Idol, Miss America and, well the Political Team at FOX News. We'll all be better off for it.

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Kevin Houston, Bridgewater, South Dakota — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:39:12 GMT

Even out here in fly-over land, the numbers of Ron Paul supporters that show up at a Guiliani event outnumber the Guiliani supporters. And only now the press is noticing?

It would be a front-page above-the-fold 72 point headline if it were the other way 'round.

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John Cedar Rapids,IA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:25:31 GMT

What's with this "almost seem to match" nonsense?
Have you ever seen a Ron Paul rally?

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Tara — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 11:35:45 GMT

Don Jen,

He meant that Ron Paul had an equal number of supporters at RUDY'S fundraiser. Which makes it even more hilarious.

Go Ron!

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JJ, Texas — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:26:16 GMT

Rudy can't distinguish himself from Hillary, why should we prefer the Republican version of a Democrat?

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Rebecca Clawsen, NH — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 12:38:23 GMT

Ron Paul gets far more people than the Ghoul in NH and everywhere. The press just doesn't want to publicize that fact!

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John Alexander,Edinboro, PA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 13:32:16 GMT

People are starting to pick their candidate, Rudy will look less front runner and more like a shadow of Georgie Bush, He has very little for people to latch on to because he is so stuck at proving himself to the electorate. Rudy is running because he is Rudy, it does not seem that he has gotten past that!

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James Finn, Clyde, Ohio — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:09:18 GMT

Well, Rudy...I hope you're starting to get the message!!! This nation needs a 'statesman', not a wanna be 'tough-guy'!!!

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Brandon Yates — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:50:14 GMT

Rudy only attracts several dozens of supporters?
Supporters of Paul only seem to match?

This is terrible journalism. Did you do ANY reasearch into the size of Paul's rallys before you wrote this? Paul has the largest rallys of any candidate. In the last few weeks he had 5,000 people in philly, 1,500 in vegas, and about 1000 in Florida. Seems like more then a few dozen to me.

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Robert, Millville, NJ — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 14:55:15 GMT

To NBC and MSNBC and all major media:

"We The People" are in control now! Your words mean nothing anymore! Your RP lie's and attacks ain't working. Blowback Indeed!

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Robert, Millville, Nj — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:03:10 GMT

>>>To the person who said there isn't a Rudy forum, yes there is http://www.rudygiulianiforum.com<<<,

Your right! But theres only 29 members. That's about the same amount of people at Rudys Rallies! LMAO!!!!!

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Gianfranco Fino — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:30:28 GMT

Italians for Ron Paul

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Bob, New York — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:38:27 GMT

I checked out the so-called Giuliani forum. What a joke! Ron Paul supporters are banned because Ron is against "Authority". Well, we certainly need someone to expose Rudy's fraud, hypocrisy and fascism. Electing Giuliani would be perhaps the biggest blunder in U.S. history.

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Chris, Moncton, NB — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:39:40 GMT

Yard sales for Ron Paul...spread the message and sell what you don't need. Ebay is your friend too, include fliers or DVD's with info on Paul on everything you sell.

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P1 — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:51:51 GMT

Go to these Giuliani events. Hand out DVDs to any Giuliani supporters you can find (if any!) with youtubes from therealrudy.org and turn them into Ron Paul supporters.

Every time I see a car with a Rudy sticker (only seen one so far) I intend to leave a DVD on their windshield.

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tiffany — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:06:13 GMT

I am watching Meet The Press this morning, right now in fact, and was disgusted to see that Ron Paul is never mentioned when they show poll numbers onscreen for the Republicans..then when I visited the Meet the Press website and noticed that the program is sponsored by Boeing....guess that fact says it all. Tim Russsert and MSNBC have a zero trust factor with me anymore. They can no longer be trusted. But perhaps they never could be trusted and I just never noticed until I became a Ron Paul supporter. Lord those corporate toads must be terrified of this man. I wont be watching that fake news program anymore as they are just like FOX news in my book.

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Schvenzlerman — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:12:07 GMT

"9/11, terrorism, 9/11 (I was running away), Islamofascism, bad firemens' radios, 9/11 and 9/11. Did I mention 9/11 - that I was there (running away)?"

Love,
Rudy

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Finn — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:13:15 GMT

Yeah, it was a sad rally for Rudy.
I was one of the Kucinich folks there.
When Rudy bashed major Democrats saying "hillary, obama and Edwards will raise your taxes" (which is true) he then said "oh and i see some Dennis Kucinich signs here too, your taxes will go up with him too"
NOT true, Dennis will shift the tax burden from the middle class and the poor onto those who can afford it... the filthy rich.
So i yelled out to him "What about the Military Budget?!" When one of his fat old Henchmen with a comb over, turned to me and spat "Shutup and sit down boy!"...... I smiled and said, "Freedome of speech"
We at least we know where Rudy stands on personal freedome...

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Nick avramov Hollywood CA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:25:52 GMT

HERES a little perspective...

much like campaigns,

If your favorite rock band was coming to town to play a free concert and no one shows....

what makes you think they will hit the stores when the album comes out?

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Albert Meyer, Plano, TX — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:28:05 GMT

It's about time the lame stream media focuses on something other than the skewed polls. Yes, attendances at rallies - people voting with their feet. My goodness, did you see the videos of Ron Paul's appearance at ULV in Las Vegas? Drawing comparisons between indicators of popularity other than the polls would be most helpful and worthy of independent journalism.

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Alan A, Northville, MI — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 16:28:43 GMT

How much do I get paid if I show up for Guliani?

I think I'll pass and support Ron Paul.

A Ron Paul blimp coming soon.....

RonPaulBlimp(dot)com......

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Tess, Bakersfield, California — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:12:45 GMT

Montanaro: I had given up on MSNBC until you starting working there. You haven't been swayed by the big media machine yet. I think the headline of this story should have been "Giuliani crowds disappoint", but that is my opinion. I have several questions for you though. Why is the main stream media really so scared of Ron Paul? Is it because he attracts so many people from various backgrounds? Is it because he will not take donations from big corporations, and only from Individuals? Is it because he does not flip-flop on the issues and stands firm with the Constitution? Is it because he wants to go to a limited federal government, tax reductions, and get rid of unnecessary government waste and spending? I am sad to see what our Country has become, it hurts down to the core of my soul. I am ex-military, and I know we do not have to nuke any countries as one person mentioned earlier in his comment in order to deal with terrorists, that statement alone showed some ignorance to say the least, but then again he was the ONLY Giuliani supporter on this comment section. I would like to see some positive reporting and not so much trash on all the candidates. I would love to see some reporting on RON PAUL period, do you think MSNBC has the strength to stand up and actually report anything on him that doesn't start with Longshot, or underdog as most of the main stream media does? If not I understand, you Mr. Montarano can only do as you are told by the company that pays your paycheck, and if that is the case true journalism is something of the past, and I will rest my case. I will take this opportunity to thank MSNBC for any coverage that is given to the only candidate that has the heart of America is behind, and that would be RON PAUL. Oh you can email me with your answers if you like.

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Max — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:30:06 GMT

There aren't even Giuliani supporters showing up on the internet...

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Win — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:31:36 GMT

We had a Ron Paul rally in Clearwater FL and had over 500 people and Ron Paul wasn't even there!

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Steve LaBianca — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:55:28 GMT

Several observations:
I was at the Clearwater, Fla. rally for Ron Paul on Nov 17th; about 500 people there. I haven't met anyone who supports Giuliani. A local TV show in Tampa, Fla. this morning had some CNN analyst John(?) King on, saying that Giuliani was the frontrunner in Florida. Say what? Again, I haven't met a single Giuliani supporter. There are 5 people in my apartment complex with Ron Paul bumper stickers . . . not a single one for any other candidate. There are something like a dozen Ron Paul meetup groups in the greater Tampa Bay area.

Conclusion: The support for Ron Paul is much, much greater than most people, and virtually all the MSM pundits are willing to acknowledge. The only question is, is it great enough to propel Paul to the Republican nomination? The only answer is, since the grassroots movement for Ron Paul (largely) got him to where he is now, only the grassroots efforts and fundraising can get him the nomination. If you support freedom, then get involved as much in the Ron Paul campaign as you can.

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Danny, Orange, CA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:05:19 GMT

Rudy says, "but on 9/11, 9/11 did, 9/11 is, I lived 9/11..."

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Smoke, Dallas, texas — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:06:43 GMT

I popped over to the Giuliani forum and discoverd some remarkable statistics.
Threads: 42, Posts: 215, Members: 32, Active Members: 32
Most users ever online was 21, Today at 05:31 PM.
Welcome to our newest member, ConstitutionBeliever
Wow! That's a rock solid grassroots organization.
Maybe Ron Paul should give ole' Rudy a call to find out how to attract so many supporters. It could boost him into "Top Tier" status.(This post was entirely sarcastic).
Oh, one more thing. You gotta love that 911 graphic. It aptly shows shows Guiliani's entire repertoire.

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Eric, Fargo, ND — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:17:01 GMT

Those polls are the biggest joke played on the American viewing audience. People are finally seeing through all this now. We're sick of these cookie-cutter candidates being shoved down our throat. They don't have any real support out there. Their support is the media playing video footage of them ad nauseum in an attempt to get the average person to think only this guy has a chance to win...after all he's the only one on tv.

More and more people are seeing through this charade everyday. The American people will speak Dec 16th with generous donations to Dr. Paul and it will indeed be a glorious day for all of us!

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john, seattle, wash — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:19:36 GMT

I think I've cracked the case! The polls are polling reporters! Obviously, the polls are accurate of the media but not the people. This must be it! lol

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Dwight — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:38:33 GMT

Had to do an Alexa comparison of RonPaulForums vs RudyGuilianiForum. No surprises here. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/downloadhelper.net?site0=ronpaulforums.com&site1=rudygiulianiforum.com&y=r&z=3&h=300&w=610&range=1m&size=Medium

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Del McReynolds — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:48:22 GMT

Guiliani still claims we were attacked because of our freedoms, he supports everything Bush is doing and the American voters want no part of. He uses fear and 911 as if some of the most respected people of all fields and military aren't demanding a true investigation for all of the attacks that took place on his and Bushes watch. Hell, I want to know what happened to the 2.3 Trillion dollars Rumsfeld department and responsibility the Pentagon, claimed it could not account for on 9/10/2001.
Freefall collapse of steel frame buildings is a signature of Controlled Demolitions, pulverized rubble in it's footprint or basement is not only another signature, it's the goal. Guiliani's is Denying having admitted being warned ahead of time the tower was going to collapse in a television interview he made, is cause for a murder investigation.
Ron Paul will restore our Consitution and Bill of Rights. He will protect our liberties, if he is not our next President who will? The Media liars and their front runners?

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oldcrow, Pittsburgh, Pa — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 18:58:40 GMT

The Mainstream Media are very slow learners. I went to a Ron Paul rally in Pittsburgh, Pa a few months back and the hotel had to keep sliding the partitions
to fit the crowd in. Easily over a 1000 people attended. This goes on all over the country but means nothing to the MSM folks. It doesn't matter.

Voters are just starting to study their options and they will be using the internet as they never used it before. They will observe the hundreds of Ron Paul videos and thousands of typed articles on Ron Paul.

The voters will have to weigh how many more billions
to send over seas to fullfill Rudi's, McCain's, Romney's, Thompson's, and Huckabee's NEOCON dream.
It will dawn on the voter, money spent on this nightmare could have been used for bridges, sewers,
water, schools, and highways. They will connect the dots.

The difference this time is, any piece going negative
on the good Dr Paul will have to pass scrutiny from
a thousand rebuttals. The MSM having final say on how a candidate is portrayed is over.

MSNBC and the rest of them are dragging their heels facing this new reality because they are becoming just one of a thousand interpreting this 2008 campaign.

I urge all Ron Paul supporters to attend the opponents
events with signs in hand.

Ron Paul 2008

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Rudy T. — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:07:46 GMT

9/11. Didnt you know 9/11 that Rudy survived 9/11. 9/11 changed 9/11 and 9/11 is 9/11. 9/11. Terrorist. Terrorist.

Im Rudy. And Im 9/11 running for 9/11. (terrorist)

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Robert K — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:34:29 GMT

Ron Paul is the only hope this country has left. Otherwise, we are going down in more than one way.

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Roone Said — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:42:25 GMT

Do they serve cool aid at the Ron Paul rallies? Where did these people crawl out from? Are they really Republicans? If Ron Paul truly had a wide following, it would show up in the polls. Just because a candidate has rabid followers, it doesn't mean he deserves more media attention (other than to note that fact). If you think he's got a chance of getting the Republican nomination, you are either delusional or smoking something illegal.

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Greg, York, PA — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:49:06 GMT

okay, that Giuliana forum is supposed to be a joke, right? I'm scared if it isn't with posts like this one......

Rudy discusses cancer and the effect it has had on his family and the rest of society. Rudy says he'll find the cancer cure by 2015. I think it's possible. With Rudy anything is possible.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lak8a7f7G9c
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J. Franklin, Middle Tennessee — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:01:02 GMT

Dear Journalists,

Do you not realize that Ron Paul is in your best interest, too? He will protect the Freedom of the Press. He will protect the Freedom of the Internet. He will protect the value of your own paychecks with sound money policy. He will protect your family by strengthening our national defenses instead of weakening them by sending our military, national guard and reservists over seas. He will protect your own (grand)children by not sending them into needless aggressive wars. And on and on the arguments could go.

You are supposedly "in the know" but the reverse seems true; you are clueless as to the major shift that is happening within the electorate. Either that or you are writing to try to please a corporate master for a dishonest paycheck. Either way, you should be ashamed of yourselves.

You finally get a candidate that will thoughtfully and honestly answer your questions without trying to sidestep them with hollow rhetoric or blatantly misleading sound bites and you try to ignore, marginalize, or even smear him. Do you liked being used and lied to by "the front runners"? You remind me of a beaten girlfriend who keeps going back for more abuse when the best man you could ever hope for is courting you with conviction for a better future.

Should America become a dictatorial police state, guess what kind of position you will be in as a journalist? You will either be a traitor to your country by cooperating with the Constitutional abuses, you will be imprisoned, or you will be dead. Read some history and wake up to the facts. Your fates will not be positive.

You appear to be blind, deaf and dumb to your own best interests. It is a shame to behold. Please, as individuals, take stock of yourselves and then do what is right. Tell the truth as it is, not as your boss tells you it should be. A clear conscience is more valuable than blood money - especially when that fiat money is fast becoming worthless anyway.

Ron Paul is not perfect but is the best this country has to offer at this time. And that's the truth.

Respectfully,

J. Franklin

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Jamie Kelso — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:16:18 GMT

Finally, some honesty in reporting. Duh! The ONLY candidate with LOTS of REAL UNPAID PEOPLE at EVERY event is Ron Paul. Gee, wonder why? I'm looking at the MNSBC political calendar feature on this page and I see NO MENTION of Ron Paul? But I see tons of mentions of other candidates. What's the story there? No mention of Paul's events on Nov. 26 or 27 in South Carolina. By the way, here's a hot story: the founder of the Obama organization in Los Angeles, Marc Whittaker, just publicly switched his support to Ron Paul at www.obamala.org. Here's his mass e-mail to 2,500 Obama supporters in L.A.: My name is Marc Whittemore. I started the original grassroots group ObamaLA and carried it until it was 2,500 people strong. Having done substancially more homework now I am inclined to switch my vote.

Make no mistake about it -- I think Obama would make an AWESOME President -- far better than any other stale "part of the problem" Democrat running. However. In case you have not noticed America is picking up "flush momentum" and going down the tubes FAST. We no longer have time for rehersals or inexperience. We MUST get it right and get it right this time. We don't even have the luxury of voting along party lines if we are to get it right.

And so. Even more surprising is that for the first time in my 32 years of voting I will be voting for a Republican president. And that Republican is Ron Paul. Listen people. And take the time to listen CLOSELY to Ron Paul -- because, like the last, we can ill afford one more drastic idiot mistake in the White House. Lives depend on making the right choice -- indeed our entire nation depends on the right choice this time.

Sincerely,
Marc Whittemore
Los Angeles, CA

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Elle Anee, New York, New York — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:17:03 GMT

Ron Paul supporters are so inspired, so passionate, and growing in number every day. I understand that not everyone will resonate with Ron Paul's stands, but those that do are thrilled to the bone to have someone of honesty and integrity to be FOR instead of having to choose the lesser of the evils. An actual candidate who says what he believes! And the more that people read about him, hear about him from friends and family members, the more people see that, indeed, there is hope for this country, for individual liberties, for hard earned dollars. Rudy=ripoff; Ron=restore the Constitution!!

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T Heins , St. Louis . Missouri — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 20:43:28 GMT

Giuliani needs to just hang it up , his views don't differentiate himself from any of the pack ... Hell , him and Hilary are pretty much the same on the issues ... so where's the choice ? ? ?

People are sick and tired of hearing war war war , terror terror terror , and rudy 9/11 9/11 9/11 ---

Somehow the mainstream media began to think people don't have choices and are idiots to all of this ...

Hence Ron Paul Supporters and Kucinich supporters come out in droves because we care about their messages ... and are sicked of the rubber stamp poltics we get every election cycle ...

Ron Paul is my guy , and I would write in Mickey Mouse before I even considered voting for Rudy or any of the "Front-Running" Neo-cons from both parties .

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Polite discourse — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:15:36 GMT

Wow! The support for Ron Paul is restoring my hope toward many republicans. Face it some big time republicans have been toying the legal system and protecting criminal behavior from within its highest ranks. It will be from within the GOP's own party is how the GOP will be saved. Even if they steal another election (caging, phone jamming, redistricting, etc) Ron Paul supporters show that many common republicans do not want the GOP to be the torture party. They are not Fox News dumbed downers.
God Bless all of them!

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Immigrants4RP — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:55:48 GMT

check out www.therealrudy.org

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ItsHappening — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 21:59:12 GMT

A challenge to would be journalist and news reporter: Who among you wants to get caught reporting on a dud like Giuliani versus or next president Ron Paul???? Where are your news hound noses?

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Bob C Concord, NH — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:17:59 GMT

Rudy is a pompous ass on a good day. A fascist flip flopping Neo-con Republocrat on an average day. GW Bush in a dress with a different accent.
You made Rudy the frontrunner mainstream media, now go ahead and explain why Ron Paul draws thousands and Rudy can't draw squat...go ahead. Aww don't bother we all know it has to do with honesty, consistency and a grasp of the Constitution. Oh yeah I think Ron Paul actually read the 9/11 report too...Rudy is exactly what we don't need. The public knows it that's why despite the media cheerleading his poll numbers are dropping...people have figured out there are better options....none of them are named Mitt, Fred, Mike or John though.
GOOGLE Ron Paul for president 2008.
It's time we elected somebody honest for a change.

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Bon, Mesa, Arizona — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:24:25 GMT

It's about time the MSM started noticing and reporting on things that matter to us, the viewing public. They are mostly irrelevant lately and that is reflected in viewer poll numbers. Many people, like myself, now get all of our news on the internet. Until the MSM clues up and does real reporting and stops clinging to their corporate mega-big-business mindset, they will continue to drop and eventually tank in the ratings.

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B Reyes — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:41:50 GMT

Giuliani is the biggest liar and worst opportunist scumbag in the presidential race. He is someone that has repeatedly and continually used the memory of a horrible tragedy to further his career.

Probably the worst was his testimony to the 9/11 Comission, It was complete trash, ask the New York Firefighters and the Police about it. They hate his guts.

I don't trust Rudy at all and I don't think major media outlets have done the homework on him. All they've got currently is that Regan/Kerik thing and trust me there is more slime around Rudy than what's being reported.

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Rudy08Man — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 23:55:52 GMT

GO RUDY GO RUDY GO RUDY

American hero Mayor Rudy Giuliani will kill the terrorists, rape their women, and eat their children. He defeated the terrorists on 9/11 and because of his personal involvement in 9/11 he has seething rage toward the terrorists and will avenge 9/11.

GO RUDY GO RUDY GO RUDY

9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11 9/11

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:11:55 GMT

Giuliani is the media candidate. You little people should not be questioning Chris Wallace's choice for your leader. Do you really think you are qualified to choose for yourselves? Get real. Get TV. Get Network TV.

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Sean, Atlanta, GA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:14:29 GMT

Achilles had his heel... the corporate interests and international bankers have the internet.

Sorry, boys... the cat's outta the bag... you can't put the genie back in the bottle.

Ron Paul is the FAVORITE in 2008.

It's so obvious, it's funny.

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Scott Frost, Kenmore, WA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:21:32 GMT

I keep seeing articles and talk shows -- HELLO, MEET THE PRESS!!! --which mention and discuss Giuliani, Thompson, Huckabee, McCain and Romney, but which ignore Ron Paul. This is disgraceful.

As mentioned in this article, Ron Paul outdraws the other candidates at rallies. Ron Paul wins more straw polls than any of them. Ron Paul outpolls some of those candidates in key primary states. Ron Paul outfundraises some of those guys. Ron Paul has massively more grassroots support than all of the others combined. Just look at the MeetUp groups numbers, for starters.

Ralph Nader never had a fraction of the support that Ron Paul has and yet the media fawned over Nader and are dutifully smearing or ignoring Ron Paul.

The U.S. goes around the world imposing "democracy" on nations that don't even seem to want it and yet we can't get it right here. Shameful.

What happened to honest journalism? At least this article is a tiny crumb of honesty in a garbage heap of disinformation. Thank you for that much. Please, sir, may I have some more?

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Shawn — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 00:30:31 GMT

Wow!! Thanks for posting the Guiliani Forums. They have a total of 40 members... one of those active was the 'admin'.

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Jim, Washington, DC — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:02:19 GMT

I am a Republican , and I support Ron Paul. We need to support the US Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Rule of Law. No secret prisons and torture. Defend the US Dollar. Liberty is what our country was founded on!

Land of the Free:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsDlO2Lr_cg

And for the Younger Folks, "The Warning"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MKZg-RswIco

Sincerely,
Jim

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Scott Frost, Kenmore, WA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:58:49 GMT

J. Franklin's excellent post above reminded me of this quote from Samuel Adams:

"If you love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom -- go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hand which feeds you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."

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Samuel , Ontario Canada — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 04:09:33 GMT

Finally someone to show us Canadians what being American is really about. A down to earth candidate who CAMPAIGNS and VOTES not on whim or popular opinion but rather on conviction and with consistency. Compare his record. Consider the future. Vote Ron Paul!!

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Alex, Ann Arbor, MI — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 05:20:55 GMT

2,000 in Ann Arbor for Ron Paul.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ronpaul2008/1553657194/in/set-72157602387361155/

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Chris, Vancouver, BC CANADA — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:02:28 GMT

This is another tip of the hat to true candidates of the people.

Canadians for Ron Paul 2008!

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Lark in Dallas — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 06:32:43 GMT

"But the emperor's not wearing any clothes!"

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Dang Sauk Rapids, Minnesota — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:59:04 GMT

Rudy doesn't have a chance. He has nary a supporter with the fervency needed to even come close to Ron Paul.

Rudy is a Media candidate with nothing move than name recognition. It's gonna be Hillary and Ron Paul.

In all my years of involvement in politics, I've NEVER seen the ardent support for a candidate I've seen so far for Ron Paul.

I was recently contacted to design ANOTHER billboard for RonPaul paid for by everyday people. No affiliation with the Ron Paul campaign. That just doesn't happen in politics.... Until now

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Shane — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:31:07 GMT

The issue is that Rudy's 14 meetup members are so much more motivated than any 14 of Ron Paul's. That's the real story, those 14 grassroots supporters of Rudy's that are able to create so much buzz. Not the 60,000 Ron Paul supporters.

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jalyx, somewhere in America — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 14:40:30 GMT

Rudy is a front runner because FOX said he's the front runner. How else can you explain a pro-life, anti-gun, northeast liberal being the candidate at the top of the GOP heap? McCluhan said "The medium is the message", so if people keep hearing that Rudys the front runner, he must be, right?
Wrong, I'm glad to see Republicans standing up for what they believe instead of what they're told. It's good for the GOP and good for the country.

P.S. Go Obama!

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polite discourse — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 16:24:08 GMT

NBC it is time to get with the program. Give equal time to ron paul and dennis kucinich.

While your at it investigate why there is no footage of an attack on the pentagon. All those cameras and no clear footage; and you call yourself reporters. Why is there no footage? Do believe what you are told to believe or do you believe your eyes?

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heather Abilene, Texas — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:34:45 GMT

"dozens" of supporters. LOL. Ron Paul 2008!

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Illya Fiuty, Milwaukee, Wisconsin — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:40:50 GMT

The media is able to give the impression that the people support Gooliani, but the people support moving away from the fascist war-mongering form of government that Gooliani and the media support. Ron Paul and his supporters will put a stop to the lies.

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Sylvester Thalassa, Richmond, Virginia — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:46:10 GMT

Rudy Jyooliani is a neocon money-wasting crossdresser with a lisp who commits adultery. He does not deserve to be elected a dog catcher, much less President.

How about Dr. Ron Paul instead????

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Christtine, Manchester NH — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:01:15 GMT

I was checking my po box when I saw the rudy busses. My husband immediately parked the car and brought out the paul signs. There was approxiately 30 people in front of city hall listening to rudy. 10 or so were with his campaign, 10 or so with the media, a couple of Kucinich supporters, my husband and I with Paul signs glancing over to say hi to two other Paul supporters with signs from MIT. The two guys next to me I think were the only rudy supporters. They reaked of beer and told me that the rudy people stuck stickers on them; they had just left a bar and were very interested in learning more about Ron Paul.

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MMille, South Dakota — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 18:05:53 GMT

By the way, the Rudy Forum has a whopping 59 members. Ron Paul's Forum as 3,217 members. Big difference.

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Guy Fawkes — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:13:51 GMT

Paul Forum Statistics
Threads: 204,886, Posts: 214,426

Rudy Giuliani Forum Statistics
Threads: 85, Posts: 632

WHO'S THE FRONTRUNNER AGAIN? HAHAHAHAHAHA

THE RON PAUL REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED!

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Lance W., Kansas City, Missouri — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 07:14:43 GMT

Ghouliani's good friend Kerik just got indicted for taking $500,000 cash bribes, among other things.

It is too late for the establishment. The message has taken root in the American consciousness and the invented dream-world that the MSM tries to foist upon us is no longer working.

Save the USA! Ron Paul 2008! Go to RudysReadingList (dot) com to give Rudy his comeuppance.

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Chris Austere, Lawrence, Kansas — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:17:53 GMT

What I find most interesting about the Giuliani campaign is the number of NYC firefighters who are willing to speak out against him. Their main beef is that he failed to supply them with working radios on 9/11, resulting in the needless deaths of their brothers who didn't receive the command to vacate the World Trade Center buildings. And this guy thinks he's a national hero for his leadership on that day? Some of the firefighters are considering starting a political action committee (PAC) with the sole intention of exposing the real Giuliani.

RON PAUL 2008!

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Cleveland, OH — Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:05:22 GMT

Polls are rigged. How else can you explain that about 70% of the American people are against the war (a much higher number among Democrats) and somehow the biggest warhawks in either party, Hilary and Giuliani respectively are far-and-away the frontrunners? I call BS on the polls. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich should be winning in landslides for their respective parties' nominations.

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Rhonda--Hawai'i — Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:31:18 GMT

I will probably never get back here to see an answer, but how does anyone know how many other candidate's backers show up at another's rally? Also, why should let us say, Ron Paul's supporters give credit by numbers to an opponent's rally such as Rudolph Guiliani's rallies?

Are you people saying that Ron Paul supporters might go to a Guiliani rally waving Ron Paul signs? If so, would that not cause tensions, if not violence?

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john doe america — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:52:59 GMT

right dont be fooled by rudy gooneiali, most of the people at his speaches are ron paul supporters just there to see the side show freek rudy, go ron paul.WE THE PEOPLE know better, main stream media are all lies.we love ron paul.