Clinton's choice record questioned

Bee — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:01:13 GMT

Clinton's choice record questioned

American Voter — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:05:39 GMT

Anybody care about this?

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RAH — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:06:04 GMT

This will turn out to be another major blunder on Hilary's part where she'll lose even more female voters. I think the reason she lost some to obama was her playing the gender card after her poor performance in the Philadelphia debate. The spin afterwards turned off a lot of women. This is going to be another one of those moments. Glass house Hilary; you live in one!

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:06:15 GMT

Oh please, either of these democrats would protect women and choice issues. Trying to make a distinction on this is totally pointless.

And by the way, you guys need to remember, whoever wins the democratic nomination needs to be able to appeal to independants and conservatives in the general. Can't win without crossover votes, period. In the past, leftist candidates have not done this very well. Moderate, pragmatic democrats (Bill Clinton, for example) have tended to do well in general elections. Not saying Obama couldn't, but he's pandering to the left more and more and I wish he's stop, he needs to think about the general. You better believe, folks, the republicans will beat thes positions up if he gets the nomination. It won't play well. Hillary's more moderate, thought out positions would stand up better. Especially on defense and foriegn affairs. There is a world of difference between the leftist opinion and most independant americans. Maybe that sucks, but it's still the reality. Please Dems, don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Not AGAIN.

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Lyn, MD — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:11:38 GMT

Chicago NOW director Lorna Brett, who devised the strategy on abortion issues that led Obama to vote present, saying ?I am a supporter of Hillary Clinton and an Emily?s list donor, but this line of attack is unacceptable. While I was the president of Chicago NOW, Senator Obama worked closely with us, could not have been more supportive of a woman?s right to choose, and there was no bigger champion in Illinois on our issues.? http://cameron.blogs.foxnews.com/2007/12/04/emilys-list-goes-after-obamas-leadership-on-choice/

This doesn't look to good for her either....based on the speech she gave several days ago questioning this.
Even people who may not support his election will not put up with the lies she wants to manufacture

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nuanced — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:13:59 GMT

I think that makes it three strikes and you are out for Emily's list and the Emily's list alumni. I have been a loyal supporter for years but no more. First the FISA vote, then the Mukasey vote and now this unnecessary, divisive, exclusive endorsement. I believe they should remove all references to being progressive from their website and literature. Can someone recommend an organization that supports progressive candidates.

I understand that Emily's list supports women candidates who support choice, therefore it would make sense for them to support Hillary because she is a women and I have no problem with that but it was wrong to say (if it was reported correctly) that Hillary was the ONLY candidate who stood tough on women's issues.

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might have to ask a conservative woman. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:14:07 GMT

So what do women who didn't marry money, marry politically powerful men, or inherit money think of this?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:15:33 GMT

Referencing the battle Planned Parenthood had waged in South Dakota to repeal a law that had banned all abortions in the state, Malcolm was asked why Clinton had done nothing to help support that effort. Obama had sent money and written a letter in support of the group. The head of the South Dakota Planned Parenthood had called Clinton's silence on the issue "mystifying."

I don't think anyone on here can bring up anything on Hillary Clinton and women's issues again after that.

I would wonder seriously if anybody on her campaign is capable of answering the tough questions that is required of any presidential candidate. her husband tried to answer them and digs an extra foot in his grave every time he tried it.

And then to top it off, Obama has a letter from this so-called spokeswoman praising him....

All in all, a great day for Hillary Clinton LOL.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:15:42 GMT

The difference in MSNBC's treatment of Clinton (both here and on air) has been somewhat startling to watch unfold in the past couple of weeks. For example, I watch Morning Joe before work, and a few weeks ago it was all about how strong Hillary is and what a flawless campaign she has run. Now it is all about how weak she is and how much trouble her campaign is in. How quickly the tide turns in politics. When you are on top, everybody loves you. When you hit a bump in the road, the press is the first one to turn its back on you.

I don't think MSNBC should sing Hillary's praises day in and day out. I don't think they should sing anyone's praises. What I do think is that the media should not be covering candidates based on their standings in the polls. The change in tone of coverage on the Democratic side (at least with MSNBC) has shown just how fickle the media is.

And Bill Clinton was right yesterday. The media focuses far too much on the horse-race and the catfights and far too little on what actually matters when choosing a president. When it comes right down to it, does it really matter if Obama has a more clever comeback than Hillary, or if Hillary lands a skillful jab to Obama or if Edwards rants about them both? I hope we can all answer that question in the negative.

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Bee — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:20:15 GMT

Here is another hit job on Senator Clinton from MSNBC... I wonder when the media is going to start looking at Obama? Has there ever been a negative story about Obama? On Fritst Read? Always seems to be about Clinton, and how her hair looks one day - how she laughs, how her press plane had trouble...

But read a latest poll -

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I did not approve this message above. By their fruit we shall know them. I guess the Clinton's machine is at work. I'll never vote for Hillary

Here is the message that i approve

http://blogs.cqpolitics.com/davidcorn/2007/12/hillary-on-obama-fear-and-hatr.html

Hillary Clinton thinks the presidency belongs to her by ascription.

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fac/ AZt — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:21:57 GMT

Hey, logic and common sense will tell! Clinton is so screwed up on the meaning of ""pritory issue""! Her constant babble about meaning less issue ""abortion""== keep your legs crossed and that would solve abortion""! The taxpayer should never foot the bill for a whore's off spring or abortion""!

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Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:22:41 GMT

Amazed, are you actually saying that Hillary Clinton can win crossover votes and Barack Obama cannot?? That is an amazingly ridiculous statement. Hillary Clinton is NO Bill Clinton. Also, what leftist postions of Obama's are you referring to?

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csh, Il — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:23:13 GMT

Sorry, Hillary haters but your “Hillary’s campaign is imploding” and “she’s unelectable” fantasies just got hit with another dose of reality:

New LA Times Bloomberg Poll – Hillary Maintains Huge Lead Over Obama 45% - 22%

New Quinnipiac Swing State Polls (FL, OH, PA) - Clinton over Obama by 36% (FL), 26% (OH) and 28% (PA)

Hillary defeats Rudy by 7% in FL, 4% in Oh and ties him in PA while Rudy defeats Obama by 8% in FL

I Wonder if Chris Matthews will report these numbers on tonight's Hardball or ignore them since they don't fit his "Hillary Falling"
propaganda.

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Jessica, Wisconsin — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:25:32 GMT

Amazed,

It was MSNBC that tried to make the distinction, it was Hillary. She is trying to imply that Obama will not stand up for Women's issues and she is just plain wrong. I'm glad that this post is here & that Obama is standing up for himself. She keeps throwing anything she can find at him hoping something will stick but it's not working. She really can't find any real oppo on him because there isn't any. Pretty soon people are going to stop paying attention to anything she says if she keeps "crying wolf".

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Jesse, Burnsville, MN — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:27:37 GMT

FAKE Bee,

It wasn't a hit job on Clinton. If anything, it was a failed hit job by the leader of Emily's List to question Obama's devotion to women's rights. She is the one who said it was "failed leadership" on Obama's part.

These were very legitimate questions that were posed to the leader of Emily's List. Obama doesn't deserve to lose the female vote just because Emily's List decided to endorse Clinton. Emily's List has it's own perogative and that's fine. But, Obama has a right to explain to female voters that he supports their rights as well.

Obama '08

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:28:33 GMT

This issue is a non-issue for the GOP. All their Candidates feel Women have no Reproductive-Rights.

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Ray Magee — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:30:53 GMT

Hillary's comments are tailored to her audience.She takes one position one day and the opposite the next. Hillary has taken exactly six different positions on immigration and I can't begin to count the number, of conflicting positions she has taken on the mideast, starting with kissing Arafat's wife.
The Republicans will have a field day with her and her only response will be "the big bad men are attacking me" again.

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avraam jack — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:31:06 GMT

CLINTON WILL SELLOUT ANYBODY AND ANYTHING
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It is possible that Senator Clinton is the best candidate. However, even though many may like the policies that Senator Clinton proposes, they should also consider her record, just as Senator Clinton insists.
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The last Clinton Administration, when faced with the fact that protection rackets where assaulting, torturing and murdering people with poison and radiation, chose to avoid its responsibilities to incarcerate the criminals and to protect the citizenry.
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Instead, they made a deal with the criminal gang stalker protection rackets to leave them alone and to consequently abandon the citizenry.
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Do we want a President who sells out the citizenry for votes?
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Do we want a President who sends a "crime does pay" message to society?
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Would you vote for a President who signed nonaggression deals with the KKKlan or the Nazi party? Gangs that torture with poison and radiation are much like the KKKlan and Nazi Party.
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We do not need a sellout President. We need a principled leader President.
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If you are one of the few who do not know what the above refers to, do a web search for “gang stalking” to see the tip of the dirtberg. Please do it before you decide to reply to my post. Here let me make it easy for you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22gang+stalking%22.
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Rick in NC — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:31:32 GMT

So was obama for it before he voted against it or present or whatever...or was he jsut pandering to a vocal slice of the dim party...this is all so clintonesque

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JJ Jax, FL — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:31:48 GMT

To csh,Il:

Once again the Hillidiots come out in droves and declare that the media is 'biased' for not making Hillary look like the messiah.

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Jessica, Wisconsin — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:32:16 GMT

Carrie,

I agree with you, however, Hillary accused Obama of not standing up for women's rights. This press conference that her campaign set up was to reinforce those accusations. This is a very important issue for many people. It is only right that Obama stood up for himself and it is only right for the press to cover this - otherwise the only information that is out there is her accusation.

She really was off base here and I'm glad it has come to light.

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diane — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:33:31 GMT

thank you for writing about this. It has been frustrating that the news has not brought up Obama's support of women's rights and the plan by the women's groups in regard to his present vote.
I have found Obama to be much stronger than clinton on women's issues and find she only supports us when it's convienent.

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Perry, Toronto — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:33:41 GMT

Carrie, I also watch Morning Joe every morning (except when he's not there and they replace him with that David Shuster wank) along with Hardball, and I gotta say that the coverage is fair.

Sorry, but the Clinton campaign slipped up and has been doing things wrong for weeks now.

I disagree with Chris Matthews on why this happened, though. He thinks that it was Clinton's performance at the Philadelphia Debate that got her in trouble. I don't think so. I think it was the Clinton campaign's damage control afterwards that really made them look bad. Blaming everyone but themselves, pulling the gender card, etc... It made people think about her not taking responsibility for her Iraq vote, the Iran vote, and all of the politics she plays. It made peopel scared that it'd just be 4 years of a Democrat version of Bush/Cheney

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Lynn, Millington — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:35:08 GMT

If I'm not mistaken, the delegates from both Michigan and FL WILL NOT COUNT.

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Dominic A. Martin — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:41:23 GMT

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:41:51 GMT

Lewis,
What I am saying is that Obama, in an effort to distinguish himself from Hillary, has taken more liberal stands on a variety of issues. While that works well in the primary, those positions will be touted in the general. I am not saying he can't win crossover votes, but when he goes on the record on some of these things and then has to defend it in front of a not so friendly audience made up of people who lean to the left/right/ and everything in between.. it will be difficult. This is a trend you can view in historical terms if you are so inclined, as well.

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Dominic A. Martin, Raleigh , NC — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:42:18 GMT

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vanreuter, NY NY — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:43:31 GMT

Give MSNBC a break; They don't care about who wins or looses, they only care about controversy, contentiousness and doing what they can to make it a close race. They're part of the media, and the media narrative is that Clinton is slipping. They'll change their tune if she slips too much, though, or if Obama can ever crack the 30% mark anywhere.

Mike Huckabee is a HUGE story. Why isn't he getting more space here? Rudy and Mitt aren't just slipping, Huck's GAINING, yet it's still Obama vs. Clinton, 24/7
I think one reason is that they don't really have a narrative for the republican race yet, so until they can tie everything up in a neat little package, you get Hillary and Barack, "Smackdown '08"!"

Van

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Dominic A. Martin, Raleigh , NC — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:44:05 GMT

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Jesse, Burnsville, MN — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:45:00 GMT

Unfortunately csh, polls in states where no campaigning has been done really don't matter right now. They are irrelevant. Voters, for the most part, have not gotten to know ANY of the candidates. Clinton leads based on her last name, nothing else.

Once Obama wins Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina, don't you think that voters in these others states that you list will start to take notice. Yeah, me too.

Obama '08

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:45:22 GMT

Jessica,
The democrats are all right on abortion. It won't be the major issue in this campaign.. what will be are issues that effect all americans, regardless of political stripes.
In Historical terms, democrats with more centrist views tend to do better among indpendants and conservatives than those who pander to the left. The democrats need those voters..they can't win with democratic loyalists alone. Independants now outnumber both democrats and republicans. This is simply a historical trend. Will Obama buck that trend? Maybe.. and many centrist candidates before Hillary did not have her negatives or the media spinning 15 years of smut.. however, the trends are still the trends, and it's food for thought.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:47:47 GMT

And Bill Clinton was right yesterday. The media focuses far too much on the horse-race and the catfights and far too little on what actually matters when choosing a president.

Maybe if Hillary was to start giving some compentent answers to the tough questions, maybe they can get back to the campaign. But as long as Hillary shys away from answering any questions about anything, it is kind of hard to figure out what she is for....

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Sarah Greenville, SC — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:48:14 GMT

When it comes down to it, we need to look at who is right for the job? Who is capable of helping America remain the powerful country that we are? Who is willing to think of others before themselves? I worry that the candidates are too concerned with making a name for themselves, and pleasing others, than to actually serve in the role of president.

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Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:48:48 GMT

Press is basically in the tank for Obama at this point. The limo libs, and Ivy league elites are totally bamboozelled by this fake Chicago pol.

That is why nothing will stick to Obama. The press doesn't want it to.

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Kalesy, Glouceser, MA — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:49:19 GMT

Question to the moderator(s):

By what criteria are you approving comments? See the flame thrown by fac/ AZt at 11:21 today. Pretty inappropriate, from what I can see.

All abortions are had by "whores"? So, women who get raped (even by their husbands) are whores? Women who get pregnant when birth control fails are whores? Women who can't afford birth control pills because their insurance won't cover it and who's partners refuse to wear condoms are whores?

Let's keep this debate on track, shall we?

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Lewis Cincinnati, Ohio — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:51:11 GMT

Amazed, What specifically liberal stands has he taken? You've written two posts and have not listed one of these so called stands

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oldefarte — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:52:33 GMT

Watching one's enemies in disarray is a good way to start the morning...

Perhaps, however, this little fracas will open a few Democrats' eyes to the single-mindedness of Mrs. Clinton's quest for the White House. This is not a woman between whom and whose goals you want to stand, because she's got the political "playbook" and it's all fair game as far as she's concerned. The only sure thing about Hillary is that she believes she should be President. Beyond that, what she'd actually do or stand for is all just a guess.

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Perry, Toronto — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:56:16 GMT

Dominic...so you're faulting Obama for being right on the Iraq War, but not being elected yet to vote for it? What sort of logic is that?

And Obama did not flub the illegal immigrant driver's license question. He was against it the whole time, unlike Clinton. He did stumble however, and lacked brevity. Is that a good enough reason to not vote for someone? Because they were unable to be concise in what they call a "lightning round" 30 second sound bite on a huge issue like Illegal Immigration?

Clinton wanted it both ways by using "doublespeal"....Obama simply fumbled his answer, which was still consistent

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Ron, TX — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:57:08 GMT

You mean Hillary Clinton's campaign was caught being dishonest AGAIN? For what? The eighth time in a week?

I'm glad the media is finally starting to stand up for FACTS and TRUTH. Hillary will do whatever it takes to win, including slander and lie

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Jessica, Wisconsin — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 16:58:07 GMT

Dominic,

Given that Hillary didn't bother to read the intel. report before she voted for war I guess you could say that both her and Obama had the same information. His good judgement made his stand up against the war & her judgement made her vote for the war.

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Jessica, Wisconsin — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:02:33 GMT

We are currently in the primary season and abortion does matter to many dems. Hillarys accusation that Obama does not support womens right is an issue and I'm glad the record has been set straight.

I think most right to lifers would view Obama's and Hillary's positions on this issue about the same.

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:04:06 GMT

Carrie, Eastern Iowa says:

"When it comes right down to it, does it really matter if Obama has a more clever comeback than Hillary, or if Hillary lands a skillful jab to Obama or if Edwards rants about them both? I hope we can all answer that question in the negative."

I hope we can answer that in the negative in the general election, too. It will take a lot of effort on both sides and entail an abandonment of standard campaign tactics for Democrats and Republicans alike.

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david anders pharr , tx. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:06:13 GMT

sure Hillary is pro choice which is supported mostly by druggies, that want an abortion to cover up their mistakes when high, and trading sex for crack, there are exceptions, but few.

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RAH — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:09:00 GMT

Dominic A. Martin, Raleigh , NC.... It wasn't just that obama was against the Iraq war, it was why it was wrong.

When obama said his best foreign relations experience was living in Indonesia, he was talking about understanding the Muslim world and the difference in tribes. He knew that even if we took out Saddam it would be a mess in Iraq because of the three distinct and separate cultures there. He called what we have happening now, before the war even started.

So, he would not have voted to authorize Military operations in Iraq. For all the EXPERIENCE of the candidates running: Joe, Dodd, Hilary, and Edwards they didn't understand why going into Iraq was going to be a BIG mistake, but obama understood why. That's why Judgement trumps experience.

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CitizenJ — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:09:15 GMT

Given that Hillary didn't bother to read the intel. report before she voted for war I guess you could say that both her and Obama had the same information.

Jessica, Wisconsin (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:58 AM)

I wouldn't go so far as to say she didn't read it at all. She read the summary, which is basically the same thing that the media reports. So the basic premise still stands. She had access to more information than Obama, she just didn't use it all. That's the problem I have with her vote (and everyone else's). It seems like it was a pretty important vote, and all she read was the summary of the report?

As for saying he wasn't sure how he would vote, I don't see how his position could have been anything different from that. He wasn't a Senator, so he didn't have that information. That's what he said. He also said that from what he did know, the case wasn't made. That's pretty good judgement, seeing as how a majority of the Senate couldn't/wouldn't see it the same way.

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Jen — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:14:44 GMT

If this isn't proof that Hillary is a liar, I don't know what is. If Hillary had anything good on Obama, she would use it, and look at what she's come up with.

1. He's too ambitious - The proof is an essay he wrote when he was 5 about wanting to be president.

2. He doesn't support women's rights. - The proof is a hastily arranged hit job by a woman who wrote a letter praising him in the past, and Hillary's criticism of Obama was rebutted by one of her own supporters?

3. He says one thing, but does another - that's you, Hillary.

This is crap. She has made a fool of herself on every issue she has attacked him on over the past week.

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John Dow, Seattle, Wash — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:18:23 GMT

Hillary's flip-flopping , Iraq war-hopping, is catching up with her. Pretty soon even the sleep walking far-left Dems will realize that she is hypnotizing them with whatever the polls tell her to say at the time.

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Bob in Denver — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:22:36 GMT

Hillary Clinton chose to attack Barack Obama by mocking his kindergarten dream to be president one day. Mrs. Clinton managed to insult every voter all at once. Because who among us didn't have childhood dreams? Whether to be an astronaut, teacher, or even president of the United States the chance to realize our dreams is something that defines America. Mrs. Clinton, who previously insulted just all male voters, is proving to be a poor campaigner who is ultimately unelectable.

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J. K. Lerner — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:22:52 GMT

Let's face it: we who are Democrats must soon unite on whoever will be our presidential candidate. The constant mudslinging must eventually stop if we are to defeat the Republican candidate in 2008. But it looks just awful when the candidates and their constituencies have spent so much time belittling and demeaning each other only to subsequently have to shake hands and support the primary winner! Do you really think Obama or Clinton are such bad candidates, or would you rather see Rudy or Romney as our next president? Sure, everyone has a favorite, but keep the remarks civilized. Even those Republicans do not degrade one another the way the Democrats do!

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:24:10 GMT

Lewis, here you go. Now, understand, these may not be my opinions, but these are issue that will come under scrutiny by those who are more conservative. I know this is no representative sample, but my husband, is a die hard republican, and because of Hillary's stand on these issues (and others) he will support her, but cannot commit to any of the other front-runners.
1. Obama beating up Clinton's vote to give the president authority to use Military action against Iraq (2002). The intention was to use the vote for leverage against Saddam.. and many agreed with this approach at the time (how funny we forget the mood of 2002). Obama acting like he knows exactly what he would have done is seen as disingenious by some, and underscores his naivity on how complex the vote really was.
2. Obama decrying Hillary's vote on the Iranian guard, yet not showing up to vote on the resolution himself. Can't have it both ways. He could have put pen to paper on it, yet, he didn't. His disagreement on this issue would be more credible, had he put it in writing.
3. Obama's insistance that a national healthcare plan does not require a mandate is seen as naive by many.
4. Obama pledging to meet with the Iranian leader prior to his first year in office ending. While this seems like a great stand, it, is also naive. A candidate cannot make such a pledge, as they have NO IDEA what the situation will warrant when they take office. The left continues to insist that the Iranian leader is no threat, not a bad guy, and diplomacy will solve all. While diplomacy is certainly the route we should take first, many moderates also understand that we cannot trust Iran.. and we cannot use political debates to create lame "what if" scenarios. While it wasn't a sexy or popular answer with the left.. Hillary's answer on that question was dead on. That she would not commit to something that she could not predict right now, or that could be used against us as a propaganda tool. That is a pragmatic, practical, and presidental answer. And conservatives like my husband who happened to see it.. Noticed.

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Mark, Manhasset, NY — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:24:41 GMT

How dare you criticize Hillary? Nothing will stand in the way of her coronation. Hillary, with her wanting to bomb Iran is a neo-con.

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Janice Outten, Clearwater, Fl — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:28:44 GMT

I am so tired of this issue of abortion. One commentor said it simply. Why are so many females out there having unprotected sex? I cannot beleive they are all rape victims or have serious medical issues. If you choose to live an irresponsible sex life, I do not think everyone else should pay for it. In other cases, I cannot be a judge. Personally it would be devasting for me to destroy a life and would have serious problems deciding on a rape or medical issue. How decadent is our society? But I especially abhor the murder of a viable child in the womb. Seems to me this child could be delivered and put up for adoption? Even in medical decisions, could not this child be delivered? And how horrible & cruel the death of this child. Are we all just animals? The doctors that perform such things are inhumane but getting rich! I do not wish to put any religious beleifs on any one, that is up to the individual as we can all make choices, but how about common decency???

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Yolanda — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:30:06 GMT

Good job FirstRead, keep up the good work, when Hillary Clinton's camp calls in a panic, things must have went "awry". They are ridiculous!!

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:30:28 GMT

JK Lerner, you are RIGHT ON. Either of these candidates, or ANY of them, for that matter, would be acceptable alternatives to the GOP. We Better think in terms of the GENERAL election, is all I am saying. All the candidates need to craft their messages to incorporate independants, who will decide the election.

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:33:38 GMT

While I agree with you in principal, Janice, the issue has always been how do you craft enforcable laws to meet such a position? How do you allow abortion for "he said/she said" rape situations.. without making it legal in the first trimester? How do you protect victims and those who have legitimate medical concerns, without protecting the right as a whole?

It's easy to disagree with abortion. Much harder to craft laws that take into account all the gray nuances. Perhaps we as a society would be better off concentrating on prevention and education.

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Jimmy Chicago IL — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:35:42 GMT

Obama keeps saying how he was always against the Iraq war and that Hillary voted for it. If Obama was in the Senate at the time and had access to allthe info that the Senators had, and he was under the pressure they were under I wonder how he would have voted. He is greatly disingenuous on this issue.
Dominic A. Martin (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:41 AM)

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Wrong! As we all know Hillary didn't even read the NIE beefore givng her vote to go to war in Iraq, and she had all that "access". She didn't have an informed opinion, she calculated how her vote to go to war would look for the 2008 presidential election.(ambition skewed her judgement? maybe?) Now who is being disingenuous?

Obama would have read the NIE. And would have seen, as the few senators that did read read it saw, that Iraq did not pose a direct imminent threat to the United States.

Your argument is flawed. Bush said for years, "If you knew what we know", you would have suppported the war. So now the Hillary camp is truly taking a page out of the Bush/Cheney playbook.

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Delmar Fairchild, Barron, WI — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:39:01 GMT

Abortion is wrong and when the right wakes up and votes properly, you will see that all this action between Obama and Clinton is only self gratification.

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Janice Outten, Clearwater, Fl — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:43:20 GMT

Clinton's choice record questioned

Charlie, New Jersey — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:43:34 GMT

I consider myself a fairly intelligent conservative person. I fail to see why anyone would be falling all over themselves to vote for Hillary Clinton. The media has made it clear for years that she is their candidate and have been propping her up and ignoring any of the dirt she is involved with. Can't her "followers" see how phoney she is? She is ill-prepared to deal with the threat of Islamo-terrorism simply because she "is" a woman. Muslims in the Middle East treat their women like shi*. Muslim leaders would never sit down to negotiate with her. If she is so outspoken on women's rights, why does she not deplore the way women are treated in the Muslim countries. I firmly believe that if she is elected President, our Country will come under direct stepped up attacks by Muslim terrorists and the likes of Al Queda. She has absolutely no experience to deal with such a threat. This next election is not a joke folks! When voting for our next President, consider which candidate seems most Reeganesque. That is the kind of leader that we are going to need over the next eight years to deal with the evils and threats to our lives that exist in the world today. Neither Clinton has the integrity or honesty that Ron Reagan possessed. Think! Think! Think!!! Do we really want another eight years of the Clintons? Their bid for the Presidency is all about power for them. They could care less about us!

Clinton's choice record questioned

Jessica, Wisconsin — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:44:25 GMT

CitizenJ,

I think we agree.

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Paul, Lansdale, PA — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:55:26 GMT

Typical of Clinton, she attacks her enemies but when the same light is turned on her, she side steps her flaws and still doesn't answer the question.

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Lisa, Fort Worth TX — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:57:13 GMT

David Anders--just another STUPID, UNINFORMED FOOL, and unfortunately from TX. You provide Jerry company in the "foolish men from TX" category!

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phoenix, Raleigh, NC — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 17:57:38 GMT

"I think one reason is that they don't really have a narrative for the republican race yet, so until they can tie everything up in a neat little package, you get Hillary and Barack, "Smackdown '08"!" "

I'm glad I'm not the only that thinks Barrack sounds like the Rock from WWF fame with his voice. LOL

On the subject of Hillary. I really don't see where her vast political experience is supposed to come from. The only real experience she has is being a NY Senator. Her saying she has experience in the White House because she was first lady is like those Holiday Inn commercials. You know the ones that go something like this.

Hillary: I have 8 years experience in the White House.

Voter: Wow you mean you were president?

Hillary: No, but I did sleep there when my husband was president.

Clinton's choice record questioned

Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:06:28 GMT

Amazed, I would be willing to bet my life savings and everything thing I own that your husband is in the minority. Hillary Clinton is NOT the democratic candidate most republicans willl support in a general election. I'm just the items you listed are "leftist" positions. For example, MOST americans thing the 2002 authorization was a mistake.

Clinton's choice record questioned

Billy — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:08:12 GMT

Clinton Has Issues, Obama has Issues, EVERYONE has Issues! EVERY politician whoever RAN FOR OFFICE preaches about change but how many of them ever REALLY Bring it? Looking back over the last eight years I remember when it was "Damn Near Unpatriotic" to question what the Hell Bush/Cheney and the Republicans where doing.....

WHO IS GOING TO BRING REAL CHANGE FOR US AMERICANS.....WHO....F#$K WAL-Mart, BEST -BUY, FORD, CHEVY, GOOGLE, ETC.... WHAT ABOUT US? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE..... 8 years later all I see is CEO's with 300 million plus (YOUR FIRED) retirement packages, MElting Ice Caps, Minimum Wages that are a joke, Health care that most of us can't afford or just don't have, The rest of the world HATES US....Have any of you left the Country in the last 12 months....They Hate US... NOT BUSH....NOT CHENEY....NOT DEMS OR REPUBS....NO THEY HATE US....AMERICAN Mr/Mrs. JOE SMITH....WHY for not doing anyhting.....FOR NOT IMPLEMENTING CHANGE....IF WE RULE THE PLANET.....WHY ARE WE NOT HOLDING OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ACCOUNTABLE?

WHO IS GOING TO CHANGE THINGS?

Clinton's choice record questioned

pat huntington ny — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:14:38 GMT

I don't care if anyone wants an abortion...it's an issue that has nothing to do with what'll protect us from terrorists, save us from global warming, and put more money in my pocket.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:26:40 GMT

and put more money in my pocket.

pat huntington ny (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:14 PM)

If you want more money in your pocket.....
a tax and spend liberal is no way to vote......

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Tuck,Realityville, KS — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:33:00 GMT

Clinton's choice record questioned

ted orlando — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:35:16 GMT

GOOD GREIF!! Sillary will just keep throwing mud to try and confuse voters. Hillary is a poverty pimp plain and simple. Whats going to be next.... what.... Obama eats for breakfast. Her campaign is just getting ridiculous. The more mud she throws the less i respect her. Plus i think she will say or do anything to become president ask your self how come Bill and hillary did not show support for Gore during his run or more support for Kerry during his run? Because she knew if they lost she could try and run but uh-oh here comes a true statesman.... Obama... and she is pissed.

Go Obama please iowa and NH and sc plus NV get it right.

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Michael,PHX. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:45:33 GMT

I looked up the word MELTDOWN in the dictionary and it gave this definition: HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN.

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Marbw — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:54:39 GMT

HClinton's gaffes continue:
First KINDERGATE and now this. Here is part of the article below:

click
http://progressivegovernment.blogspot.com/2007/12/from-anne-and-women-for-obama.html

quote for article:
Now they’re trying to attack Barack Obama’s 100% pro-choice record.

Today’s attack was delivered by Ellen Malcolm, President of EMILY’s List – which has endorsed Senator Clinton and is spending millions on an Independent Expenditure campaign to try to get her elected. Malcolm called into question Barack’s commitment to protect women’s rights by pointing to old votes on a few politically motivated bills in the Illinois Senate. What Malcolm failed to point out was that Barack cast these votes as part of a strategy employed by pro-choice leaders in Illinois. That’s why so many top pro-choice leaders were outraged by the attack and immediately defended Barack’s record of leadership on this important issue.

Not only is Senator Clinton’s claim another baseless, desperate attempt on her campaign’s part to distort Barack’s record, but this tactic does nothing more than divide the pro-choice community at a time when we need to work together to elect a pro-choice candidate for president.

But don’t take our word for it. Read what leaders in the pro-choice community – who have worked side by side with Senator Obama – had to say about the latest Clinton attacks:
“I am a supporter of Hillary Clinton and an EMILY’s List donor, but this line of attack is unacceptable. While I was the president of Chicago National Organization for Women, Senator Obama worked closely with us, could not have been more supportive of a woman¹s right to choose, and there was no bigger champion in Illinois on our issues. What¹s important is that the candidates do not cannibalize each other on issues we all agree about because we need to win in November.” Lorna Brett, former president of Chicago NOW
"During his years in the state legislature, Barack Obama was a strong and consistent supporter of women's reproductive rights. He worked hand-in-hand with Planned Parenthood in developing and executing strategies to make sure that women had access to reproductive health care. I also want to thank him for standing up with us in the effort to open the Aurora clinic and for his introduction of legislation guaranteeing access to low-cost birth control. Planned Parenthood/Chicago Area has proudly endorsed Barack throughout his entire political career." Steve Trombley, CEO & President, Planned Parenthood/Chicago Action

"The present votes Obama took at that time, along with many other pro-choice legislators, were 'no' votes to bad bills being used for political gain. We asked Senator Obama and other strong supporters of choice to vote present to encourage Senators facing tough re-elections to make the right choice by voting present, instead of caving to political pressure and voting for these bad bills. In the Illinois State Senate, Obama showed leadership, compassion and a true commitment to reproductive health care. The Republican Senate President at the time constantly used anti-abortion bills to pigeon-hole Democrats so that he could target them with misleading mailers during campaign season. It was a tactic that was about politics, not policy - and Obama didn't let them get away with it." Pam Sutherland, President & CEO of Illinois Planned Parenthood Council

“Senator Obama is one of America’s strongest and most loyal defenders of women’s rights on issues of reproductive health care. I’ve contributed to EMILY’s List in the past but I never will again, because I¹m so disappointed in their decision to launch these unfair, false attacks on behalf of Senator Clinton¹s campaign.” Libby Slappey, a former 13-year board member of Planned Parenthood of East Central Iowa.

Even Ellen Malcolm has praised Barack as recently as last year, after Barack gave the keynote speech at the annual Emily’s List Luncheon. In a letter to Barack, Malcolm writes:

Senator Obama,
Thank you so much for helping to make the 2006 EMILY’s List Majority Council Conference such a great success. Our Majority Council members told me again and again how energized they were to hear directly from you and how much they appreciated your spending time with us.
You truly inspired our members and reminded them why they support our work to elect dynamic pro-choice Democratic women especially after hearing you speak about how you’re fighting to make change happen.

I appreciate your commitment to EMILY’s List. Here’s to victory in November!

Warmest regards, Ellen R. Malcolm, President

Handwritten: “You were terrific and really lit a fire with our members!
Thanks so much!!”

In regards to Iraq, we have Barack Obama's 2002 speech. We also have this part of his comments in interviews that seem to be left off.
'But, I'm not privy to Senate intelligence reports,'' Mr. Obama said. ''What would I have done? I don't know. What I know is that from my vantage point the case was not made.''

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andi kulp,griffin, ga. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:57:18 GMT

You know guys, the email that pointed out that MSNBC,
specifically; Joe,Chris,Dan(Keith O.is a bit better) seem to have it out for Hillary RODHAM Clinton is right. Occasionally you will and do attempt to muster a "fair and balanced" Hillary review just to make us think you are not out to get Hillary out of the race for President. You haven't turned your investigative arm on Obama yet... or at all (are you freightened of Opra?). Don't tell me this is not intentional, I would find it very hard to believe you. Maybe it makes for good ratings, but it is most assuredly turning me off MSNBC and back to other news outlets and CSPAN. Do you know if the cable companies give credits on your bill when you blackout news networks like MSNBC and Fox?

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Yolanda — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 18:58:56 GMT

kalsey, the moderaters of this forum are fine with any women, in general or specific , being called anything.

but call Obama the N word, and your post will never appear..

it seems the boys of this forum see rape and forced pregnancy as a male right, but good forbid you attack a male
Tuck,Realityville, KS (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 1:33 PM)

Thanks Tuck for letting us know that you have attempted to use the "N" word to reference Obama!! Good to know where you stand on the issues!!

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shame — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:00:10 GMT

What, Aswini Anburajan again ?
Don't you guys do your homework well ? What a shame article. What day is today ? She should really have a day off. Save some time and go home.

Where is quality control, Chuck ?

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disgusted — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:00:47 GMT

Perry you are quoting the known nut Chris Matthews.

Do you really believe or trust any word that comes out of that unwell man's mouth.

If Matthews is your reliable news source, you may need help as well.

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GoforHillary/Biden — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:03:34 GMT

Bee, who cares about who you vote ? Do you think you are here 24/7 people will follow what you say ? Go home and have a job. You are so boring, just like Obama, talk, talk, talk,.....no real stuff.

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Linda — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:05:40 GMT

Hillary has a long, long and strong steady support for women.

We women know it. Maybe Obama does too but we KNOW Hillary will be there for us.

Hillary Clinton '08

She's my girl and she will SHOW UP, VOTE FOR US and be there for us.

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Gayle DeRienzis, Sea Cliff, New York 11579 — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:07:30 GMT

Dear Amazed in Atlanta - I am a woman voter in New York and want to thank you for articulating exactly how I feel about all of this - your comments are practical and I think accurately reflect the facts about the election for president- others commenting in this blog unfortuantely I fear have "fallen in love" with Obama much like one does with a new romantic partner -I fear that it is an infatuation that is hollow- wake up people he has only been in national office about 2 years - no one knew about him a couple of months ago - why oh why are you pinning all your dreams on someone so unkown, someone who appears so naive and simplistic?? Please look at Hillary Clinton's record - do you homework, for the sake of our country and yourselves. Gayle from Sea Cliff NY.

Clinton's choice record questioned

Larry George, Poquoson, VA — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:10:09 GMT

"Food for Thought"
Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to the "ex friends" of the Clintons.
1- James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later, the air Traffic controller committed suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died, the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancée of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton's friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
14 -Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
17- Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996; Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
22- Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
26-Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
32-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".
33-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.
34-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
35 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
36-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
37-Sgt. Brian Hanley
38-Sgt. Tim Sabel
39-Major General William Robertson
40-Col. William Densberger
41-Col. Robert Kelly
42-Spec. Gary Rhodes
43-Steve Willis
44-Robert Williams
45-Conway LeBleu
46-Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! Pass this on. Let the public become aware of what happens to friends of the Clinton's!
HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT? SURELY YOU JEST !!

Clinton's choice record questioned

Rick, Des Moines, Iowa — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:11:33 GMT

I think it's interesting the way the Clinton campaign is being pointed out with how they "setup" the stage with their own supporters but infiltrate Republican venues.
What's even more interesting is Obama is the one pointing.
Obama still has the edge for the facts, what he has done, not just said. Hillary flip-flops. (Like Iraq)

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Scot from Vermont — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:13:59 GMT

It always amazes me when Democrats allow their nomination races to do so much damage to their eventual candidate. Their loyalists eviscerate one another to the point that they have accomplished the republicans job of undermining each of their credibilities and reputations. And this year, they have so many top notch people running for the nomination who aren't even getting a serious look because of all this nonsense between the Hillary and Barack camps. Too bad the party of such wonderful ideas continues to implode over personalities. You have allowed weaker and less civilly minded people from the other party to win because of your self-destructive tendencies. I am all for passion in politics but not at the expense of both common sense and eventual victory.

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Doug, San Diego — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:20:35 GMT

Since no one else has made this point, I will: abortion is most often a financial decision. Abortions are chosen by impoverished women who don't feel they could support a child, not those with resources. Reduce poverty and you will reduce the abortion rate. Which party tends to reduce the poverty rate when in power? Certainly not the corporatist Republicans. The abortion rate fell under the Clinton administration and has increased again under the Bush administration. It will most likely fall again under the next Democratic administration, so if you hate abortion, vote a democratic ticket.

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Glo Woodstock N.Y. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:30:15 GMT

Chris Mathews and especialy F oops Tucker have a Hillary Problem we now Turn them off 1 Watch bbc and get news instead of poppy cock! Pundits have ruined the news !What makes these people so smart. talk about issues .we don't care about Britney and opinions from Ann Coulter or you Chris and f oops Tucker

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Charlene, Shrewsbury, MA — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:31:54 GMT

This message is for fac/ AZt who posted @11:21 AM. I found your posting very offensive. Maybe there would be less need of abortions if more men would take responsibility or preventitive measure not to get a woman pregnant. I am not for abortion but I am for a womans right to decide.

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pat huntington ny — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:32:14 GMT

My only regret in being male, is that I will never the joy there is in having an abortion....

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GG — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:34:24 GMT

Here again is living proof on womens reproductive rights that BINLADEN is the offspring of Hillery Clinton having made love to NANCY PELOSI

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Mike Frazier — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:36:07 GMT

Amazed, you're right on the money:

"Can't win without crossover votes, period. Hillary's more moderate, thought out positions would stand up better. Please Dems, don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Not AGAIN."

Amen.

"While it wasn't a sexy or popular answer with the left ... Hillary's answer on that question was dead on. That she would not commit to something that she could not predict right now, or that could be used against us as a propaganda tool. That is a pragmatic, practical, and presidental answer."

In addition to the wisdom of the point you're making, I think you've hit on the key to many people's fascination with Obama: he's sexy. Not in the prurient sense, but in the sense of attractive flash, for want of a better synonym. He dazzles. Who wouldn't prefer a young showman like Obama to a sometimes frumpy, bewrinkled doyenne who qualifies her positions rather than tossing out fortune cookie answers to complex problems?

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Beckwolf, Houston, TX — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:38:39 GMT

I hadn't expected to say this, but a politician out there is actually more dishonest and immoral than Bill Clinton. Guess that's why he married her, they come off as practically the same person now. Only difference is, while he would lie, steal, and risk lives all day long without a care, he had the ability to hypnotize the people and make them turn a blind eye to what he was doing. Hillary tells all the same old lies and is trying the same old tricks that he did, but doesn't have the speaking potential to cover it all up. Now she's blowing it with practically every sentence. It doesn't take much to see why she has the highest negativity rating of any candidate ever in the history of the United States.
The numbers don't lie, while people have recovered from negative ratings this early in the process, she's too far down already to recover. Regardless of whether she wins the candidacy for the Democrats, it's a fairly safe bet to say that she's already lost herself the election. If she had just kept her mouth shut, people might have believed she actually had morals, but she blew it.

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vanreuter, NY NY — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:39:38 GMT

I remember when I used to get flak for my posts being too long...:)

Van

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vanreuter, NY NY — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:41:04 GMT

Larry George, Poquoson, VA (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:10 PM)

Someone notify his family that he's loose again...

Van

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Beck, San Ramon, CA — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:51:04 GMT

"sure Hillary is pro choice which is supported mostly by druggies, that want an abortion to cover up their mistakes when high, and trading sex for crack, there are exceptions, but few."

So you suggest punishing those "few" (which are actually thousands upon thousands) because of the actions of some, those wholly unrelated to the innocent ones? By the way, those few are actually considered to be in the majority versus the minority that are druggies. You're really talking about controlling the majority because of the immoral acts of the minority few. Never touched a drug, but am one hundred percent pro choice. There's a big difference between an abortion in an early term and later when a brain has actually developed. I've seen the pictures that some pro-life groups have released, showing what they claim to be an aborted baby. So far, the greatest number of those has been proven to be a medical abortion, death at birth, or illegal abortion late in the pregnancy. Their biggest campaign was with a picture of a death at birth (not even close to an abortion), while claiming that it was an abortion in an obvious lie to fool people into thinking an abortion was something different than it is the majority of the time. The average abortion occurs early, and if you look at the aborted material, all that there is to see so early in the pregnancy is a small flap of skin, like picking off a piece of skin around your fingernail. There's no brain, no limbs, no life. I'm pro choice until there's something that can even remotely qualify as a life, something with a least the beginnings of a brain or lungs or any organ outside of a flap of skin. Pro choice has nothing to do with late stage pregnancy abortions, and those I stand against. But when it's not a baby, when it's a flap of skin sticking out like a hangnail and no more, it's the woman's right to remove it.

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Rob S, Seattle, WA — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:54:17 GMT

The armchair pundits out there saying that Hillary's campaign is doomed have no clue of reality. They're projecting their hopes over facts. Those Republicans are running scared.

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john doe, seattle wash — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:58:34 GMT

Hil would be a terrific pres.... why, she has those fancy pantsuits, that great haircut, and who could ever forget that heart warming laugh of hers! Not to mention her great wealth of political knowledge and insight from her years of being married to Bill. She's so caring, I bet she will return all of the furniture she took from the White House when Billy ("I'm gonna' say this one more time...") and she moved out of there! Maybe they'll even bring back all of the "w"'s for the computer keyboards that their staffers mistakenly took. Maybe she'll have Sandy (burglar) Bherger (sp?)return the documents that he mistaken put into his pants and socks when leaving the archives room! She's so great, she may even bring Vince Foster back from the dead. Ew, I can't wait!!! Go, Hil!
Go away. Please.

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:01:49 GMT

Hey Lewis, I wouldn't bet that money just yet. You are correct that many republicans aren't OPEN to Clinton, but that's because they've been listening to too much Rush Limbaugh. If you lined up the positions, however, and asked them who in the democratic party they agreed with more (and didn't reveal the names).. I bet THAT result would surprise you.. and THEM. You are right about one thing.. they might not ever know... as many are closed minded on the subject.

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Charlie, New Jersey — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:06:39 GMT

Right on target there Beckwolf. I agree 100%. It must be awfully frustrating for "HER ROYAL THIGHNESS" not to be getting away with spewing lies like her impeached husband did. And for Linda, I ask again, if Hillary supports women so much, how come she does not specifically speak out against the atrocities commited by men against the women of the Muslim world? What about their rights?

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Lorraine Taube Brockway Township, Michigan — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:11:15 GMT

I'm so glad that I'm a Republican. We only have homosexuals to worry about. And they are not running for president. I've got my man picked out. Ron Paul in 2008,

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Charlie, New Jersey — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:11:18 GMT

How long will it be until "HER ROYAL THIGHNESS" shakes a finger at us denying one of her lies? ENOUGH with the Clintons! Yes, please just GO AWAY!

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T Neuharth — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:13:11 GMT

Senator Clinton and her cronies are incorrect about many things and just as the Bush team does they never agree they are wrong on an issue, they just change the subject. I wish that we would be free of both the Bush and Clinton families, they are all jerks and hypocrites.

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Dot, Illinois — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:13:43 GMT

My oh my, there is some pretty tasteless stuff on this site today. Not really necessary, is it---we can make our points in a more civil manner, don't you think?

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T Neuharth — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:19:57 GMT

I hope Senator Obama wins, I do not like Senator Clinton, she seems like the icy queen from Narnia- a pandering, mean spirited, spiteful, two faced witch who has no real friends, just a bunch of cowards hovering around her for political scraps. I Obama can't overcome her I am voting for Mr Guilliani, even with his faults he is more trustworthy than Senator Clinton who is a "knownothing" puppet like Mr Bush is now.

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T. Neuharth — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:22:03 GMT

No more Bush! No more Clinton! These bums have worn out their welcome with their squabbling and war- mongering!

Clinton's choice record questioned

CitizenJ — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:25:10 GMT

I remember when I used to get flak for my posts being too long...:)

Van
vanreuter, NY NY (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 2:39 PM)

I remember that too. I also remember when we could count the come-and-go wackos on one hand. Now I don't think I could count the daily ones one one hand.

I can't wait until the election season is over so we can return to a little normalcy.

The day is coming...

Clinton's choice record questioned

T Neuharth — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:25:24 GMT

Does anyone know if it is true that Senator Clinton likes puppies, or does she just devour them whole? I have seen several blogs that say both things...

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:34:18 GMT

Charlie,
I think you and Joe Doe are just bothered by women in powerful positions.. the pantsuit comments.. her royal thighness..etc. Women like Hillary and all working women, for that matter, have dealt with guys like you our whole lives. And you are all the same. Just insecure little boys who worry when a woman can outwit and outsmart you.

And by the way, if you took as much time as you do posting on this board to check out Hillary's record with regard to women's rights, you wouldn't make such dumb statements. I doubt even Obama would claim that Hillary's record is deficient in this area.

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MarkieBee, Sacramento, Calif. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:38:25 GMT

Let me debunk Each and every one of these points (my responses will be in all caps):
1. Obama beating up Clinton's vote to give the president authority to use Military action against Iraq (2002). The intention was to use the vote for leverage against Saddam.. and many agreed with this approach at the time (how funny we forget the mood of 2002). Obama acting like he knows exactly what he would have done is seen as disingenious by some, and underscores his naivity on how complex the vote really was. OBAMA WAS INTERVIEWED ON TV IN ILLINOIS IN 2002 AND DESCRIBED EXACTLY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE INVADED IRAQ AND HE WAS EXACTLY RIGHT. THE SENIOR SENATOR FROM ILLINOIS, DICK DURBIN, ALSO VOTED AGAINST THE RESOLUTION SO OBAMA WOULD HAVE HAD POLITICAL COVER. I GUESS DURBIN WAS ABLE TO SEE THE NUANCES OF THAT VOTE AND MAKE TH RIGHT DECISION. I'D SAY OBAMA WOULD HAVE VOTED NO, AS WELL.
2. Obama decrying Hillary's vote on the Iranian guard, yet not showing up to vote on the resolution himself. Can't have it both ways. He could have put pen to paper on it, yet, he didn't. His disagreement on this issue would be more credible, had he put it in writing. FOR THE LAST TIME, NO VOTE WAS SCHEDULED THAT DAY. CHECK OUT THE TRANSCRIPTS FROM THE SENATE FLOOR THAT DAY. THEN SEN. REID, WHOSE SON IS ON HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN, SCHEDULES A SUDDEN VOTE KNOWING FULL WELL THAT OBAMA WAS ON HIS WAY TO NEW HAMPSHIRE. SEN. MCCAIN ALSO MISSED THE VOTE. WHY THE SUDDEN RUSH TO VOTE ON A TOOTHLESS "SENSE OF THE SENATE" RESOLUTION IF NOT FOR CLINTON'S POLITICAL GAIN?
3. Obama's insistance that a national healthcare plan does not require a mandate is seen as naive by many. REALLY? BY WHOM? MANY MORE HAVE SAID THAT HIS PLAN ACTUALLY GETS CLOSER TO SOLVING THE PROBLEM AND STANDS THE BEST CHANCE OF PASSING INTO LAW. WHEN HILLARY STATES HOW SHE'LL ENFORCE THE MADATES THEN BY ALL MEANS POST THAT STATEMENT RIGHT HERE BECAUSE SHE HASN'T ADDRESSED THAT CRITICAL PART OF HER PLAN. AND WHY WAS HE THE LAST TO COME OUT WITH A HEALTH CARE PLAN. I'D FIGURE THAT SOMEONE WHO GOT HER ARSE HANDED TO HER 15 YEARS AGO WOULD HAVE HAD PLENTY OF TIME TO FINETUNE ANOTHER ONE AND WOULD PRESENT IT ON DAY ONE OF RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. INSTEAD SHE CHERRYPICKED THE BEST FROM EDWARDS AND OBAMA AND COBBLED HER PLAN TOGETHER. THAT'S NOT WHAT I CALL LEADERSHIP.
4. Obama pledging to meet with the Iranian leader prior to his first year in office ending. While this seems like a great stand, it, is also naive. A candidate cannot make such a pledge, as they have NO IDEA what the situation will warrant when they take office. The left continues to insist that the Iranian leader is no threat, not a bad guy, and diplomacy will solve all. While diplomacy is certainly the route we should take first, many moderates also understand that we cannot trust Iran.. and we cannot use political debates to create lame "what if" scenarios. While it wasn't a sexy or popular answer with the left.. Hillary's answer on that question was dead on. HILLARY'S ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION CHANGED THREE TIMES IN ABOUT TWO MONTHS. SHE WAS CAUGHT ON TAPE IN THE SPRING SAYING SHE WOULD HAVE DIPLOMATIC TALKS WITH IRAN AND SHE CRITICIZED BUSH FOR NOT BEING MORE DIPLOMATIC. THEN SHE SMACKS OBAMA AT THAT DEBATE FOR BEING NAIVE AND ALLEGING THAT WE WOULD BE USED FOR PROPAGANDA PURPOSES. TWO WEEKS LATER, SHE SWITCHES AGAIN TO BEING OPEN TO TALK WITH IRAN AND OUR OTHER ENEMIES. AND WHEN DID OBAMA PLEDGE TO SPEAK WITH OUR ENEMIES BEFORE HIS FIRST YEAR WAS OUT? HE NEVER DID. THERE WAS NEVER A TIMELINE SET OR PLEDGED. PLEASE GET YOUR AND YOUR HUSBAND'S FACTS CORRECT BEFORE YOU SPEW THIS CRAP ALL OVER THE INTERNET.

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kenn — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:52:39 GMT

I like when people like jerry defend a person who is suporting a different position from his but is against his enemy ,now he thinks late term abortions are a good thing to defend if oboma defends it and hillliary takes his position but now he cant be for it because hilliary is for it quite a conundrum

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ace p washington, d.c. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:29:25 GMT

as a person that is still deciding i find it amazing that mr.obama is being accused of being more and more to the left.

his history and voting indicates a compassion fro the needs of people, bipartisan ability on a large scale, a centrist view on some issues and liberal on others.

what i have found in my research is a history of willingness to listen to both sides and his hope of finding common ground for the interests of all parties. his illinois and senatorial record seems to indicate this to date.

why do some people in here just make up lies?

check mrs. clinton record prior to the presidential campaign period. it wasn't as centrist as she is now presenting herself. she could have changed her views.

edwards has been liberal and remains so, but his voting record and history is contrary to some things he says now as well.

some of you guys don't want to deal with issues and facts. it seems as though hating is all some of you are interested in. some of you aren't serious at all. just emotional. this is serious businss.

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disaapointed, jamul,CA — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:48:16 GMT

to charlie of new jersey - you are absolutely right!!! Couldn't agree with you more!!! Only wish there were more people with your views out there!
Thanks for your thoughts.

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ace p washington, d.c. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 21:48:24 GMT

did anyone hear the interview with mark penn (clinton's head campaign strategist) this morning?

he was caught changing what mrs. clinton said about what she said in her katie couric interview. the qoutes were read. he was busted.

her comments on mr. obama's kindergarten presidential ambitions was bought up. me penn said it was meant as a joke when initially released. the problem is according to the newscast was if it was a joke, why is she still stumping hard on that issue in her following speeches after she initially joked about it and continue to do so? mr. penn has to come up with better answers. they punched holes in his answers with qoutes and facts that couldn't be smoothed over.

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:33:40 GMT

Doug, San Diego writes:

"Since no one else has made this point, I will: abortion is most often a financial decision. Abortions are chosen by impoverished women who don't feel they could support a child, not those with resources. Reduce poverty and you will reduce the abortion rate. Which party tends to reduce the poverty rate when in power? Certainly not the corporatist Republicans. The abortion rate fell under the Clinton administration and has increased again under the Bush administration. It will most likely fall again under the next Democratic administration, so if you hate abortion, vote a democratic ticket."

Do you have this post set up to run periodically when you push a button? It wasn't true or accurate when you posted it one other time and it isn't true or accurate now. I even supplied citations then to show it wasn't true or accurate.

Your source of information was refuted a long time ago, with support from the Alan Guttmacher institute and the guy who you cited. Take some time and research it. Until you correct yourself, you are lying.

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Dot, Illinois — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:40:55 GMT

Citizen J

Hang in there!

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ace p washington, d.c. — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:41:06 GMT

if msnbc is for obama then who does cnn represent? just asking.

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 22:51:19 GMT

Beck:

So, let's get personal. Going backward from birth, or even viability, through the flap of skin and the embryo, was there any time in that development process where the end result was not going to be Beck?

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vanreuter, NY NY — Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:09:14 GMT

ace p washington, d.c. (Sent Wednesday, December 05, 2007 4:29 PM)

One wonders based on your posts exactly what it is you're still deciding...

You should check out the list of links I post here,as including documentation tends to bolster your contentions.
PS-Clinton's and Obama's voting score(lib/cons) can be found at the National Journal's website;

http://nationaljournal.com/voteratings/sen/lib.htm?o1=lib_composite&o2=desc#vr

PPS-Clinton 70.2,(33rd of 100 most liberal) Obama-86.0(10th MOST liberal)

Van

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ace p washington, d.c. — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:32:14 GMT

mike frazier-wow. such great intellectual and factual input.

yolanda-there is a big difference between the b word and the n word. however both are very ugly and demeaning. neither should ever be used.

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Tom Silone Lady Lake ,Fl. — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:43:38 GMT

Clinton looks like a little twerp standing next to the other men. One other reason she not the one for the job.

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tim maher — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:44:32 GMT

do we really want this dumb.... clinton as president of our country!when her cheating husband was in office the man did NOTHING FOR ANYONE and yet you people praise this idiot.now we have the wife who wants to run and she will do nothing.i live in new york and as someone who watches the elected officials i can not tell you what she has done for us.ironically it is strange that when you ask many new yorkers if they can mention one thing she has done nobody can answer you.why doesn't some one ask this ass about WHITEWATER and all the people who just happened to die off or became missing all of a sudden.while the husband gets blowjobs in the oval office (like is hero John F Kennedy another asshole) she is down in arkansas killing off potential problems.i am stunned as an american and a young man to see her run for office.really i am embarresed to see this loser want this seat.if the american people,if any other female wanted to run I think we the american people should back her.backing hillbilly clinton is not smart,wise or the ethical thing to do.

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Shirlee Connors-carlson — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:55:06 GMT

It might be helpful if the media would take a break on all candidates for a week, to give the dust time to settle and allow people to think from within their own senses. We should be able to listen to the candidates and decide without the media telling us what they meant. Average intellect is all one needs to sift through the information and make up ones own mind without the media doing it for us.

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Eric, Ruston, LA — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:09:55 GMT

We Evangelical Christian Republican Voters are fed up with the left using the courts to chip away at our family values! In our eyes, Obhama and Clinton are one in the same. They both support the murder of millions of innocent babies. Make no mistake, the Demons won the House and Senate because of Bush and the Iraq war. But look at the insane politics that their playing now: We may not get our tax refunds on time because they can't agree on anything. Also, attaching all kinds of unrelated nonsense to spending bills. Thats how they play, "We can't get it passed using the democratic (constitutional) process, so we'll just use the courts and other important bills to push our radical leftist agenda on America." Although, playing politics may come back to bite them. Who do you think will be more upset when they don't get their, much needed, refunds on time? The Republicans, or the Demoncratic base? In short, watch out. Conservatives see the goal! We may be ONE president away from getting the Supreme Court back to sanity.

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Skipskatte, Chicago, IL — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:13:14 GMT

For those of you buying into the talking points about Obama being naive and lacking good judgement, take a look at an interview from November, 2002, More than three months before the Iraq invasion.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXzmXy226po

Naive? Far from it. He had a grasp on EXACTLY what could happen and what his position was when the more experienced politicians wrung their hands and worried about their poll numbers.
Whenever someone bashes Obama for his lack of experience, point him or her to this interview.

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Eddie, Virginia Beach, VA — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 02:59:10 GMT

So, can anyone tell me why politicians still think we even care what the "STARS" have to say about issues that that they are far removed from? As for me it doesn't matter what party or who the candidate might be, send or give me the message yourself and have enough guts to stand by your beliefs no matter how controversial and DON’T no matter the what the message is, try to use Hollywood to convince me that you are sincere, in my book after that the respect factor for the politician falls far below average.

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Russ & Mary Windham, Jasper- Georgia — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:05:06 GMT

Clinton is ABOVE all of this criticism. She is a wonderful leader and knows how to play politics. Our country should be proud of a woman like her and we ought to be behind her. What a fine example of integrity she displays. God Bless Her Efforts and Examples!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"Robyn Bjorsen, Eagle "River, Alaska — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:06:07 GMT

What is with this business of woman's reproductive rights? There are plently of choices out there, pill etc. What some people don't get is that for some people it is over the right to terminate life. There will always be strong feelings on both sides.

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Dan Claar Sunman, In — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:09:10 GMT

Would somebody fix there spell check before
post more comments.

Why is it that you don't use Obama's middle
name as often, as Clinton's .

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Ed Martin,Warwick, RI. — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:27:20 GMT

Clinton,(inc.) is not much more than a greenback appatite, since Bill fell into the White house in 92 with 42% of the vote they have sold everything that was'nt nailed down and sold access to anything while sailing on not one tough decision of real National Safety while being anti-military from the get-go neither one of them let alone a silent partnership can be trusted with National security again. They successfully turned their style of politics into a money legacy foundation that stripped the democrat party of all it's talent and patriotism leaving a shell of a party that they control. John F Kennedy would be a solid Conservative Republican by their standards that's how far into socialism they have led our Democrat party on the national level. No partnerships in the Whitehouse, they will sell us all real short !

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Ed Martin,Warwick, RI. — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:31:54 GMT

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Matt in WI — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:52:46 GMT

This article is very poorly written. It seems like a recap on opinions and clashes but, it is not very clear. Anyone who thinks obama is more pro-choice than clinton doesn't know how much she has pushed the issue over the years.Obsessively. Obama just is trying to sway women voters. Black guys may allways try to get the white girls in bed but, good luck getting there vote.

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las vegas, nv — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:57:16 GMT

Oh please http://www.fixmywindshield.com the story on MSN says something about hillary and iran oh please ..

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Laura Wolseth — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:02:20 GMT

Hillary Clinton would be the last person that I would vote for. She lied when her husband was caught w/his pants down "I am not a stand by your man kind of woman" - she is still with him???? Then when our President Bush was being inaugerated, she was rolling her eyes like a 10 year old.
NO WAY HILLARY go back to your kitchen -

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UKnight, Richmond, VA — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:12:39 GMT

Hillary Clinton will not be elected as this country's first woman President. There are several reasons why: (a) The country is weary of the Bushes AND the Clintons; (b) She's just not someone most of us feel we can trust with the responsibility of the Presidency; and (c) She can't articulate cogent policy positions because she doesn't HAVE authentic positions: she only has whip-sawed, opinion poll-generated positions that are as fleeting as the loyalty of the media. But the biggest reason she can't be elected is because she responds poorly when she isn't carefully scripted, and it's showing now that she's coming under some pressure from her fellow Democrats. We should be looking at candidates with authentic credentials, such as Biden, even though he isn't the "glamorous" one--he would make a far better President than Hillary Clinton. Her main claim to fame is her association with Bill, not with any achievements in her own right. That won't make for a very compelling choice in the voting booth.

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Jeff Stern — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:19:49 GMT

am a democrat, but I am not liberal. I support a strong defense, yet I strongly oppose the war in Iraq. I believe in an eye for an eye, but I believe in strong gun controls. I believe in individual choice yet I believe in the right to life. I believe that a judge should not be chosen because of their interpretation of the law, NOT their political point of view. I believe in a fiscal conservative plan, and most of all, I believe in a BALANCED budget. I believe a person's race or gender should have no consideration of whether they would be a better President, yet I applaud the historical impact on how it will impact the world. I believe rather than look at the negatives of Universal Health Care, I believe we can learn from the French and Canadians on how we can improve our country by looking at alternatives to having the "private" insurance companies and drug lobbyist, control our health needs and put it back in the medical community hands. And finally, I believe that the 87 million dollars that was spent to investigate a person's law practice to only conclude that her husband got a blow job, PROVED her honesty. That is why I believe Mrs. Clinton will be a great President and should not be judged on slander versus the FACTS!

Rudy was a good Mayor of a great city, but is not qualified to run this country ONLY because he was there on 911. Relationships and experience on the world front is more important than falling on the sword and making back room deals with religious fanatics.

Mr. Romney's religion should not be a factor, his leadership in a state that was in a fiscal mess should be more of a factor. However, his support of the war without an exit plan eliminates his position as a solution.

What I dislike about Hillary is her early support of the war. But I like someone that admits a mistake and learns from experience. Her cabinet will have diversity, not because it is politically correct. Because she knows (and proved in the senate, compromise is essential). It is how she helped work with her husband on creating his Presidency, that worked as a partnership with the likes of Gore, Powell, Greenspan and many qualified open minded judges and administrators.

How many debates have you watched from start to finish? Either party? I hate the way the media pro mo ted them, but I love the open exchange. By watching several ( and I look forward to w atching tomorrow night), I believe it has made me understand the real convictions of the candidates. It sh owed me the shallowness of a John Edwards and Rudy. The desperateness of John McCain and Baraka Osama, and the sincerity of Ron Paul, Joe Biden and Bill Richardson.

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Jeff, Dallas — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:26:17 GMT

I am a democrat, but I am not liberal. I support a strong defense, yet I strongly oppose the war in Iraq. I believe in an eye for an eye, but I believe in strong gun controls. I believe in individual choice yet I believe in the right to life. I believe that a judge should not be chosen because of their interpretation of the law, NOT their political point of view. I believe in a fiscal conservative plan, and most of all, I believe in a BALANCED budget. I believe a person's race or gender should have no consideration of whether they would be a better President, yet I applaud the historical impact on how it will impact the world. I believe rather than look at the negatives of Universal Health Care, I believe we can learn from the French and Canadians on how we can improve our country by looking at alternatives to having the "private" insurance companies and drug lobbyist, control our health needs and put it back in the medical community hands. And finally, I believe that the 87 million dollars that was spent to investigate a person's law practice to only conclude that her husband got a blow job, PROVED her honesty. That is why I believe Mrs. Clinton will be a great President and should not be judged on slander versus the FACTS!

Rudy was a good Mayor of a great city, but is not qualified to run this country ONLY because he was there on 911. Relationships and experience on the world front is more important than falling on the sword and making back room deals with religious fanatics.

Mr. Romney's religion should not be a factor, his leadership in a state that was in a fiscal mess should be more of a factor. However, his support of the war without an exit plan eliminates his position as a solution.

What I dislike about Hillary is her early support of the war. But I like someone that admits a mistake and learns from experience. Her cabinet will have diversity, not because it is politically correct. Because she knows (and proved in the senate, compromise is essential). It is how she helped work with her husband on creating his Presidency, that worked as a partnership with the likes of Gore, Powell, Greenspan and many qualified open minded judges and administrators.

How many debates have you watched from start to finish? Either party? I hate the way the media pro mo ted them, but I love the open exchange. By watching several ( and I look forward to w atching tomorrow night), I believe it has made me understand the real convictions of the candidates. It sh owed me the shallowness of a John Edwards and Rudy. The desperateness of John McCain and Baraka Osama, and the sincerity of Ron Paul, Joe Biden and Bill Richardson.

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AMAZED, WYOMING — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 04:31:40 GMT

THIS WORLD IS WORKING ON HELPING THE DISFUNCTIONAL FAMILIES IN THE WORLD. HOW WOULD THIS BE POSSIBLE W/THE CLINTON'S AS EXAMPLES?

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kay — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:09:26 GMT

more men support abortion then women do. men 18-35 are the main supporters of abortion rights and the pro-death issue oops i mean pro-choice, because they are scum that do not want to care for their children. planned parenthood is genocide and is linked to the socialist agenda of the nazis,commies and democrats.. abortion rights supporters are also racist hatemonger, bigoted, eleitist snobs that hate the poor, the illiterate, loose moraled, the mentally ill, and minorities, because those are the only people that usally get abortions they want to make sure they can get an abortion because who needs more Untermentchen??? nazi/commie/fascist/socialist Democrats are all the same; murderers..

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we're-boned — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:53:51 GMT

You people really want the Clintons back in Washington?? Are you insane!?!? Does this really have to be such an issue, I don't like nor trust either Hillary or Barak, but I'm sure the idiot voters will put one or the other in office, we're royally screwed either way.

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Robert, Oregon — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 07:31:09 GMT

I would never vote for Hillary or Obama. As an independent I tend to vote against Democrats (Which in not the same to voting for Republicans). If Giuliani is the Republican candidate I will be voting Third party, in which case I would rather see Obama as the Democrat nominee just in case the Democrats win.

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Femi-S, Lagos — Thu, 06 Dec 2007 09:38:27 GMT

Mind you, this race is not between obama and hillary but between the red, the blue and the rest of the world....be prepared for a surprise; the coming president of the world.

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Jeff Stern — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:33:50 GMT

Senator Clinton
Where did you go tonight? I am watching all the cable news and have not heard your perspective on the speech? The endorsement by the Kennedy's and more important, President Clintons new position on keeping the campaign positive.

From my perspective, you are the most qualified and prepared person to be a great President! I have supported you from the first day you announce to "officially" run. I strongly believe that President Clinton was the best President of my lifetime! I believe that you where a critical advisor and clearly believed that your passion, intellect, and vision, contributed to to his balancing the budget, ending welfare (for the most part) and an actual plan to go after the "Terrorist" threat and fundamental causes, that we are ALL committed to eliminated.

That being said, in all of my discussion in talking about you and my support of you. The end result from most democrats & independents, acknowledge your strength. However, the distain and negative perspective of you is alarming. It is unfair!!! I believe, and not valid!! However, it is real, and is deeper than I ever could have imagined. I believe it alienates the mutual messages that we Democrats have against the past eight years.

I am going to watch the next 8 days with great anticipation and interest. We need to hear your poisitions and plans, in a clear and positive voice. In the end we, must defeat Seantor McCain, (the new Bush Voice) and take back the White House and the Nation.

If your voice is not heard and resolved next Tuesday, I hope you will acknowledge what is becoming more obvious every day. Senator Obama has the same visions as well as perspective as you and I. What he has beyond anyone that has run in our lifetime, is to bring out voters and passions that can change the world.

Your support may become the balance of experience, leadership and strength. Please don't run and hide as you you have done tonight. Come back tomorrow and face the reality of the world today. It is not about, Black or White, Man or Women, or Right being Wrong. As you have said so often about being a "political realist". It's is becoming more about LIKE vs DISLIKE! I am afraid in today's world, LIKE & POSITIVE are going to win out!!!