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Bee — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:22:07 GMT

Folks,

Have you heard the latest from Hillary's campaign; you've got to laugh after reading this article.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/10/barackemail/

Remember the kindergarten essay, now, the Clinton campaign is looking at his community organizing background. They are looking for dirt …lol… desperado

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Tyler, Texas — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:23:08 GMT

Jerome Armstrong, MyDD diarist thirdestate speculates:
"I've been considering these questions for some time, and I'm becoming more and more convinced that Obama is trying to win the 'media primary' . . . My suspicion is that Barack is attempting to appease/manipulate the class of establishment pundits, and with them the press corps as a whole . . . By making noises about Social Security and [healthcare] mandates, Obama is feeding the media beast. Heck, it might even work, if recent polls are any evidence.

Obama , to the right of every other democratic canidate. He's out to appease the GOP

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Jesse, Burnsville, MN — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:26:00 GMT

It is a national poll. It still means nothing until they have campaigned in those states. I live in MN and can guarantee that hardly anybody is paying attention yet.

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karlos — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:29:21 GMT

hill and obama have their celebs to show, biden has his own celeb endorsements, the other candidates themselves {view joe's right on biden web]. like joe says; he's got the only iraq proposal that's passed, was right on iran and right on pakistan.he has more foreign affairs experience than hill,bar,and edwds combined and that includes hill's white house tenure and barak's schooling! THE MAN HASN'T ANY FINANCE SCANDALS cause he's got no money to audit. lets do for biden what the repubs did for huckabee, give joe a surge in iowa. he's the best qualified!

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God Help Us if the Republicans pull this one out. — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:29:28 GMT

Hey democrats, be warned.. moderate democrats win national elections... and the moderates are Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Bill Richardson. These are the people who will likely work best in a divided government, and these are the ones we should practically get behind. Think about it people, idealism is nice, but reality is still reality. A democrat will have to work with republicans and lofty liberal goals will not come to fruition. Don't be tempted to jump on media created doomed bandwagons (including those with Oprah heading them). There is the reason the corporate controlled, republican media wants you to choose Obama.. they know.. liberals are easier to beat in general elections. Don't fall for it, guys.

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Helen Keeler, Huntingdon, TN — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:30:46 GMT

--- but more Democrats also see Mrs. Clinton rather than Mr. Obama as someone who can unite the country.” ---

This just shows how delusional the Democrats are. Hillary a uniter? Now Democrats are just making things up.

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Tyler, Texas — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:31:11 GMT

'The Union Leader’s DiStaso reports that New Hampshire Rep. Carol Shea-Porter (D) will endorse Obama.'

good job obama, that 5K you gave porter illegally from your PAC, has paid off

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diane — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:40:59 GMT

Shock: Obama has the views of a democrat! stop the presses.
Obama has never pretended to have republican views - like Hillary who is all over the place.
He even says in his speech that democrats should be proud democrats and quit worrying over what the republicans will say.
As for your drolling over Bill, well many democrats are annoyed with him. His obsession of himself is so 90s.
I find the new poll to be an outlier. They say Hillary is a uniter. Never has this shown in polls all year. And yet this one says that. that makes me question the poll. Hillary has always been viewed as the establishment and divisive figure she is and now the NY times is saying that overnight people have changed this view?
Was this just a poll done in NY?

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csh, IL — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:43:29 GMT

Hillary with a 17% national lead over Obama – let’s see if Chris Matthews acknowledges this poll on Hardball tonight. Anyone care to bet that he won’t since it does not fit his “Hillary's Campaign is Imploding” storyline.

A 17% lead – some implosion!

Must be very frustrating for Obama and his supporters to witness the rise of Huckabee. Huckabee is now close to or leading Giuliani in national polls while, despite many months, much publicity and money spent, Obama has never led or come close to leading Hillary in the national polls. Just further proof of the strong and solid support she enjoys amongst democrats.

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Bee — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:44:06 GMT

I'll be worry if i were Hillary's supporter in New Jersey.

http://www.bluejersey.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=0432697272BA7A8099FA111927676951?diaryId=6372

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:44:31 GMT

The New York Times posts an email from a Clinton campaign official who appears to have been fishing for info about Obama's days as a community organizer.

Instead of trying to stay on target as far as the issues are concerned, the Clinton's continue to dig into their enemies past. These people just have no shame. They make the mafia look like a nursery school.

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Dot, Illinois — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:48:13 GMT

A great ad from a great candidate!

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Sean — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:57:49 GMT

Hillary-Us Democrats know you are the best qualified for the job. Once nominated, your candidacy will invigorate us (unlike Gore or Kerry were able to do)to carry you into the White House!

Keep it up Girl!

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Nashville_fan — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 14:58:54 GMT

An Illinois questionaire shows that Barack Obama is too Democratic to be elected? Wow - this is getting funnier and funnier. Sooner or later, folks are just gonna have to start saying they don't want a Black President just because they have always had a white one. Oh wait, folks are already saying that. lol

P.S. Also so funny that only 1% would be influenced by Oprah Winfrey. If every poll confirms Ms. Winfrey has no influence (other than a negative one of course) why in the world does everyone keep bringing it up? This has got to be the most discussed non-factor in U.S. election history. :)

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:03:08 GMT

I have yet to see Biden's ad on TV here, but I'm looking forward to it. I saw Dodd's this morning and it was good. I will be so glad in 3 weeks when every commercial break is not full of political ads. I'm sure they are helpful to some people but they do nothing for me.

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Avi, MA — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:04:43 GMT

Is anyone going to call out Obama for taking just as politically convenient position as Hillary? He is getting away with this to no end. In the Politico article he says he is for the death penalty "in principle" but against it "in practice." There is no grey area there, you either think bad people should die or you don't.

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avraam jack, alexandria,va — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:10:07 GMT

-----CLINTON SLEEZE FATIGUE WILL INVIGORATE GOP, DISPIRIT DEMOCRATS AND SINK DEMOCRATIC TICKET-----

-----EDWARDS/RICHARDSON TO WIN-----

It is possible that Senator Clinton is the best candidate. However, even though many may like the policies that Senator Clinton proposes, they should also consider her record, just as Senator Clinton insists.
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The last Clinton Administration, when faced with the fact that protection rackets where assaulting, torturing and murdering people with poison and radiation, chose to avoid its responsibilities to incarcerate the criminals and to protect the citizenry.
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Instead, they made a deal with the criminal gang stalker protection rackets to leave them alone and to consequently abandon the citizenry.
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Do we want a President who sells out the citizenry for votes?
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Do we want a President who sends a "crime does pay" message to society?
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Would you vote for a President who signed nonaggression deals with the KKKlan or the Nazi party? Gangs that torture with poison and radiation are much like the KKKlan and Nazi Party.
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We do not need a sellout President. We need a principled leader President.
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If you are one of the few who do not know what the above refers to, do a web search for “gang stalking” to see the tip of the dirtberg. Please do it before you decide to reply to my post. Here let me make it easy for you: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22gang+stalking%22.
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David Anders Pharr,Tx. — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:10:11 GMT

Pray tell me how Bill Clinton who sold his soul to criminals, drug dealers,and terrosists over the objection of law enforcement for hundreds of thousands of dollars for pardons for his librabry and hillary s senate race. Not only that he performrd perverted acts on a young intern with cigars. The democrats must be hard up for someone to look up to. If they worship this behavior, what does it tell you about them.

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Dave, Tn — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:14:58 GMT

"and that he spoke with the Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf before Bush did after Musharraf declared emergency rule earlier this year"

Yeah well big freaking deal Joe. What 1 Senator out of 100 says and does means nothing on the world stage, but what a President says and the timing matters. The same would be true if you were in the seat at the time. You are less insane than the rest of your democrat buddies though. :-)

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--NSMSNBC — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:19:08 GMT

Clinton addressed concerns of revisiting some of the problems of the 1990s. "We don't want to re-fight the battles of the ‘90s, but we sure would like to have some of the victories of the 90s."
**Yeah, like free trade. I personally think free trade is a good thing, but Clinton is backing down from Clinton's previous policy. (Now you can maybe understand why her first name of Hillary is used, hardly disrespectful). I guess she has to pander to get the votes, but what choices will she make if she returns to office? Seriously, think about it.

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Aidyn, NY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:20:53 GMT

Obamna tries to say he is different but does are lies, he has been pulled into Washigton as well.

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Dave, Tn — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:40:02 GMT

Someone should ask Hillary & any democrat if they agree with Bill that Jack Bauer should just suck it up, and not get the President involved. Not surprised this didn't get more notice.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21065954/page/2/
"It’s far better if you happen to the be the agent that has to deal with that, just suck it up and decide what you think is right and be prepared to live with the consequences. " - First Black President Bill Clinton

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Joe, Boston, mA — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:07:32 GMT

Let's Go Biden! This guy needs to win! He is the only one with the true experience and the wisdom to make the necessary changes to this country and to our foreign policy.

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Devin, Champaign, Illinois — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:27:18 GMT

Why wont Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, and Richardson (to an extent) just drop out of this race? I realize everyone who wants to run should have an opportunity, but they have to realize by mid december that if they aren't already averaging more than 5% in polls, they aren't going to be in the early states anyway. They simply are taking (possibly) critical votes away from the candidates that could really stand a chance.

I think Hillary should be waaay more worried about her chances. Why? 1. Obama will win Iowa. 2. Edwards could get second in Iowa; getting 3rd in Iowa doesn't look so good. 3. With that momentum, Obama will win NH, if only marginally. 4. SC will also swing for Obama, but by a greater margin than NH, which will make it seem like Obama's popularity is gaining more and more. 5. After seeing he can actually win, independants (who overwhelmingly support obama) will actually spent their time voting for him in all the other states. Obama will win the nomination, and then he will win the presidency and unite the country.

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mark elgin il — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:34:42 GMT

Obama has been talking out the side of mouth for years
yes he is a good speaker but he jokes under presure as you seen in the debates. And this guy want the keys to our foreign policy and for all your oproa fans she has realy steped on her tongue with this her judgment is about as good as her staff she has at her 40.000.000 school not in the u.s.a.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:38:50 GMT

A poll is what it is and I can only wonder how questions were asked. I find it curious that these Democrats questioned seem to feel that Hillary is better able to unite the country Obama.

As an anecdotal reference, I live in upstate NY and here, Hillary is the ultimate in polarization. More significantly, her high negatives reflected in other national polls would also speak to her polarizing nature. The perceptions of these particular Democrats questioned in the CBS/NYT poll might be clouded by wishful thinking or by a nebulous nature in which the questions were asked.

In any case, the results are interesting and show the wide variability of polls. Somehow, I believe that the incubator called Iowa, is a world of its own and we'll just have to see how this thing plays out with truly engaged voters. I have to say, being the political junkie that I am, that I envy the priveledge shared by Iowans, of participating in this very unique American laboratory.
Obama '08

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threeriverscrossing, Raleigh, North Carolina — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:40:44 GMT

Look at what Biden's done... Nothing, but sat in the do nothing Congress for most of his political life. Congress gets very little done based on performance relative to pay. This why Congress is called the broken branch of government. If Senator Biden and Senator Dodd want to show they are "Leaders" on a national level perhaps the should pursue reform of the institution they represent for the American taxpayer. If Biden wants to do something meaningful and have a positive impact on the lives of people, become a Governor or lead in reforming Congress.

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threeriverscrossing, Raleigh, North carolina — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:48:43 GMT

Look at what Biden's has done... Nothing, but sat in the do nothing Congress for most of his political life. Congress gets very little done based on performance relative to pay. This is why Congress is called the broken branch of government. Senator Biden and Senator Dodd want to show they are "Leaders" on a national level perhaps the should pursue reform of the institution they represent on behalf of the American taxpayer. If Biden wants to do something meaningful and have a posivitive impact on the lives of people, become a Governor.

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Chris DiLoreto, Keene, NH — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 16:56:36 GMT

Do you think at some point we can recognize that national polls do not now represent, nor have they ever represented, anything significant? I don't think I should have to point out that, while the general election occurs nationally, on a single date, the primaries go state by state in a staggered fashion.

Things are a little different for Republicans this year, but nationally the Democrats will vote however Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina vote. Just look at history.

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Barbara C., Pompano Beach, FL — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:35:51 GMT

Hey Guys.....Thanks for covering all the candidates in one message. It is really hard at work to try and read everything I need to see in (1) hour. Like I said before, as we move into the thrust of the "Most Exciting Election Year Ever"...try and keep it human and pointed in the direction of issues; right or left.

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Macey Harris, Newark, DL — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:40:41 GMT

Who is this Biden?

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Ellis B. Kingman, Az. — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 17:53:06 GMT

So the NYT/CBS poll shows democrats believe Hillary can unite the country better than Edwards or Obama, " Yea Right?" The Clintons can unite the country about as well as George Bush has. Was it not the actions of the Clintons that caused the democrats to lose control of Congress in 1994 to the republicans? Was it not the Clintons who caused six contineous years of investigations into inappropriate and illegal actions by the Clintons?......." Uniters....any more jokes?"

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MK,MO — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:06:39 GMT

"she is viewed by Democrats as a far more electable presidential nominee than either Senator Barack Obama or John Edwards."

the new york times does not speak for 'most democrates', john edwards has always been and still is the most electable dem candidate and all the beltway blabber to the contrary ain't going to change that fact, hillary can't win the general election

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Diane Grau, Duluth, MN — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:24:52 GMT

It's great to see more information about Joe Biden. He has the background and ideas to make the policy changes this country so desparately needs.

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Alex Crawford, Moline AR — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:31:54 GMT

The New York Times. Clinton on the Board of Directors yet? Who believes anything this rag has to say? My guess is that Hillary gets even better advertising rates (free?) then Moveon.org got a couple of months ago.

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Dot, Illinois — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:35:34 GMT

Senator Biden has a great ad for a great candidate!

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Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:35:54 GMT

I have a very hard time as well believing the MOST democrats believe Hillary Clinton can unite the country better than Edwards or Obama. I'll give her the electability thing among dems b/c of the Clinton poltical machine which is very impressive, but uniting the country??? Come on man....

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Stacy S. Medford OR — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:38:15 GMT

Joe Biden has earned my vote.

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Dr. Greg, Birmingham, AL — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:38:20 GMT

"'...Not only do substantially more Democratic voters judge her to be ready for the presidency than believe Mr. Obama is prepared for the job, the poll found, but more Democrats also see Mrs. Clinton rather than Mr. Obama as someone who can unite the country.'"

...and you BELIEVE this!? Who are you polling there in New York? When 50% of those surveyed nationally admit they will NEVER vote for Senator Clinton, these results are simply unrealistic.

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Shotti Kawlra, Potomac, MD. — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:38:54 GMT

Despite all the beating Hillary has taken from the media and the candidates in the last several weeks, she continues to lead in majority of the polls. As she said, she gets their attention because she is leading the other candidates.

Last night I was watching Chris Mathews and he sounded more like Obama's campaign manager. Besides, why most of the guests he brings are afraid to disagree with him. Sometimes, if someone does not chime with him, he keeps shouting over them and cuts them off. Some Journalism!!!!
Shotti.

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Clint, NY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:44:35 GMT

Biden Should be the Nominee. Any-way-you-see-it.

...but the uninformed voters who brought us so many disappointments in the past, will mess up this one too. They'll either vote for the insipid egg-layer Clinton or the rainbow-colored bubble-blowing Obama.

(although Iowa is a little more politically-aware than us, the nation)

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Lisa from Ohio — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:47:22 GMT

I heard a Republican strategist being interviewed by Russert on MSNBC today who made the point that Edwards consistently polls best in general election match-ups and is the only one who can "run the field" against the Republican candidates. The strategist also said, "I'd he happy with either Hillary or Obama being the Democratic nominee. Edwards is the one who scares us because he's a southern Democrat, and they're the ones who win."

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Lee in CA — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:48:21 GMT

"Was it not the Clintons who caused six contineous years of investigations into inappropriate and illegal actions by the Clintons?......."

Hardly, revisionist. That was Henry Hyde, Gingrich, Ken (oops - I'm forging evidence again!) Starr and all the little people who make up the the only party in our history more interested in punishing the other side than doing what's good for the country.

Glad to straighten you out.

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Tareli, Fuquay Varina NC — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:49:26 GMT

It seems we now have proof of Obama flip-flopping on issues:

http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=C906328B-3048-5C12-007DE179B9A5D1D5

And as for Oprah's judgement about Obama, back during the time leading up to the last presidential election she said she was voting for Bush because when he was on her show he gave her a hug, whereas Gore only shook her hand and she thought he was cold, so that's why she was voting for Bush. So her judgment means squat.

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leslie, slidell, la. — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:50:41 GMT

Biden knows what to do the minute he takes the oath of office. He'll restore credibility and honesty to the oval office. Joe Biden should be given a second look now.

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Delaware Republican — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:51:05 GMT

Just what has Biden accomplished for the sorry State of Delaware in the last 30+ years? It's the land that progress forgot!

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Clint, NY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 18:53:33 GMT

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ace p washington, d.c. — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:04:52 GMT

check the contributers list at negative adds. research the names and lobbying firms that have supported hillary. see if any of them represent the nyt. after you do that then ask yourself if this poll is unbiasly put forth.

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Rev. Rob — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:10:02 GMT

I would just like to point out that Biden's first ads in Iowa ran earlier this year, and that these new ads are merely his next round of TV ads rather than his first round.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:14:41 GMT

You guys must have had technical problems this AM. Anyway I have to agree with MK,MO. The democrats questioned in this NYT/CBS poll either have perspectives clouded by wishful thinking or were asked questions in a nebulous manner.

I live in upstate NY and although my reporting is at best anecdotal and at worst strongly biased against Hillary, I have to say that the Republicans, with whom I speak, can be whipped into a rabid frenzy at the mere mention of Hillary's name (whether or not that's justified, is another quesition). Even most of the Democrats are not inclined to support her for the presidency. Obama and Edwards, on the other hand, are received more favorably.

So how did Hillary win her Senate seat in 2000 and 2006, you may ask. Well, she ran against two unknown and underfinanced Republicans. In the first election, Rick Lazio was a stand-in for Guiliani, who, in September 2000 bowed out of the race, secondary to illness. In 2006 she ran against John Spencer, an unknown former mayor of Yonkers who was outspent 5:1. Chuck Shumer has outpolled Hillary in his runs for the Senate seat from NY.

I guess if these polls address people who are (nationally) not yet engaged in the race, the answers should be expected to be spurious. However, the place where people are engaged, is Iowa. In this state where the caucus goer has 20X the voting power of the average national primary voter (according to a study quoted by Jill Zuckman of the Chicago Tribune, on Chris Matthews last night) because of their first in the nation status and the subsequent downstream effect, the vote is crucial and certainly more significant than any national poll.

Ms. Zuckman also stated that the same study showed that NH voters (in the same vein) have 12x the voting power of the average primary voter. As goes Iowa and NH (and then SC) will go the Democratic nomination. I am envious of Iowan voters, political junkie that I am, that I am not able to participate in that unique laboratory of political science. Good luck Iowans and thanks for your sincere and intense concentration; the nation owes you.
Obama '08

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ronnie, illinois — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 19:50:33 GMT

Joe Biden is the ONLY democratic candidate I would vote for. He has experience and has researched the issues and come to exceptional resolutions.

If the dems don't nominate him. I will probably throw my vote to a republican and hold my nose the whole time.

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karlos — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:18:09 GMT

hill & obama have their celebs to parade; all biden has for celebs are the candidates themselves! the choruses of "joe's right" by these people at the debates should concern you people.if joe's right, and he is on all current foreign affairs issues, why are these people polling higher? the answer is money for campaigns, the politics of a minority now whether it's bais for gender or race, and the politics of nostalgia for the bill years. the last 2 are bs reasons to base your vote and biden's right once the elections are over change and experience are just slogans. in the first place he has more experience than h&o combined, and that includes the white house for hill and overseas education for obama. these people are lightweights in foreign affains, the sphere where the presidents impact resides and the domestic change will come frm congress and include some portion of all, providing we win the trifecta [house,senate, & pred] for demos in 08'. elect biden he already leads with his iraq proposal and anticipation of pakistan problems. stop biding your time for a leader. vote joe biden!

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Mikey, NY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:19:53 GMT

I think each politician is worthless. Each one is out for their own means, full of promises with no real intention of getting these things done when in office. If they do pursue them, they get cut off by the opposing party cause they don't "like the ideas." Yeah some 'united' country we are in. We have two seperate groups that can't even agree on spending bills. Lets stop worrying about this stupid war and start worrying about ourselves and our own people. We give too much to others and worry too much about others. Stop poking our nose in international affairs and start poking into our own country and finding all the major issues. Health care, education, the rising cost of colleges.

None of these political liars get my vote.

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--NSMSNBC — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:45:27 GMT

[Clinton addressed concerns of revisiting some of the problems of the 1990s. "We don't want to re-fight the battles of the ‘90s, but we sure would like to have some of the victories of the 90s."]
--Like Free Trade??? I actually like free trade, but of course that has to be the one of the things Clinton accomplished that Clinton is now hesitant on. (Now you see why people type Hillary and Bill, it's not out of disrespect). I guess it's politically convenient right now to distance herself from this, but ask yourself one question ... What will her position be should she win the Presidency?

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bobf — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:47:59 GMT

Wow, the republicans are sure desperate. They are already trying to tie Democrats to flip Flopping. But we can never ever flip flop more than W the fish. W is like a fish out of water. Flip, Iraq has WMD's. Flop, oops Iraq has harbored terrorists. Flip, Saddam Hussein must go. Flop, it is freedom for the Iraqi people. That is only one issue, lets check other situations. Flip, the person that outed Valerie Plame will be fired. Flop, we are not sure of the facts of this case, but I am commuting Libby's sentence. Flip, we do not torture. Flop, we destroyed the tapes that showed us torture. Flip, we do not send people to other countries to be tortured. Flop, Rendition is standard operating procedure for this adminstration. Flip, W says his tax cuts will pay for themselves. Flop, we have the largest debt ever. Flip, I will bring integrity to the white house. Flop, any minion or bush asskisser was given government jobs over more qualified people. You bunch of republican losers, this is just the start of my flip flop list of the republican party. Do you think the american public is so stupid to fall for your flip flop arguement twice? The ditto heads and religious freaks might think so. Those of us with brains and think for ourselves see right through the pathetic hypocrisy you republicans seem to enjoy so much. Mark from AZ please never stop blogging. Your hatred of the liberals is only matched by your nazi like behaviour defending the republican party. You are the blogger that keeps giving: Hate that is. Every post just shows everyone the amount of hate and stupidity a blind loyal busshie like you has.

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Lee Holmes — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:51:38 GMT

Giving away the ICBM re-entry ranch to the Chinese[where it ended up with the NKs,where it ended up with the Paks,where it ended up with the Iranians,who all now have enhanced missle re-entry capability],is somehow ''good for the country''? Readers will be reminded that ''presidential waivers''of the sort Clinton bestowed upon missle guidence systems giants LORAL and HUGHES,are now unlawful due to the very damage done to our national security as a result of these ''waivers''to favoured Clinton campaign contributors[indeed,keyword Schwartz,Bernie,fmr. CEO of LORAL,and you will find that he is a fundraising honcho in Hillarys campaign.Indeed,after Schwartz,who is running the liberal New School in New York City,met with a Mr. Norman Hsu,at a banquet in Hillarys honor last year,Hillary dumped one million in taxpayer dollars into the schools coffers].

Also see: The United States House of Representatives The COX Commission [1999] www.house.gov

JANES WEAPONS www.janes.com

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bernie — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:54:36 GMT

Joe Biden for president...why is it that we never hear anything about him. He is the only person I would vote for.

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S.B. Stein E.B. NJ — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:55:38 GMT

When it comes to candidates, the ones that I think are best for the country aren't necessarily doing the best in the polls. I like Dodd and Biden. Unfortunately, they have the least name recognition and most likely some of the smaller bank numbers. These two have the experience and judgement because they have seen the mistakes of others; they have learned how to avoid them for the most part.

Of the front runners: Clinton, Obama, Edwards and Richardson; I like Obama the most. I know that Clinton and Richardson have some varied (Richardson more than Clinton) experiences. There is something to be said of youthful energy. Clinton may be able to win many people, but she is far too polarizing for me; might rally the Republicans too much (give Coulter another reason for a bitter book).

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Joe, New Jersey — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:04:16 GMT

Just what has Biden accomplished for the sorry State of Delaware in the last 30+ years? It's the land that progress forgot!

___________________________

Delaware is a state? Go on! Was it just let in the union? Where are my state quarters when I need them?

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mike — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:22:31 GMT

Almost everybody I know is an independent voter and none of them will support Hillary from sea to shining sea.

I think Joe Biden is running a perfect Iowa campaign he built strong ground support and is now going to do a strong media push at the end. Just need to see if it will propel him into contention. He is the most qualified candidate for president. The only others are Dodd, McCain, and Richardson.

I think a dream matchup for the presidency would be Biden vs. McCain.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 21:42:18 GMT

Delaware is a state? Go on! Was it just let in the union? Where are my state quarters when I need them?
Joe, New Jersey (Sent Tuesday, December 11, 2007 4:04 PM)

Actually, Delaware was the first of the pre-statehood colonies, and the first official state of the United States.

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Janet Crane — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:08:34 GMT

Biden is the real deal. I just hope Iowans will give him their vote, so the rest of the country has an opportunity to vote for a man with integrity, statesmanship, and who gets things done. His legislative record is second to no one. His foreign affairs experience and wisdom is the best of either party.

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Carlos Nieves, Oklahoma City — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:28:01 GMT

Biden is 'Up, up and away'? What is he Super-Dud?

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Linsey Jones — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:37:14 GMT

Actually, Delaware was the first of the pre-statehood colonies, and the first official state of the United States.\\\

Then Jimmy Carter lost it in a game of Texas Hold'em with Margaret Thatcher.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:13:05 GMT

Campaigning with the 'audacity of hope' doesn't mean reducing oneself to being a sack of potatoes. It's alright for Obama to delineate differences between himself and the other candidates and it's certainly alright to point out inconsistancies in the political stances of the other candidates (as they will try to do in return). That's what campaigning is about and it's a candidate's duty to present his/her case in an honest manner. It follows that argument and counterargument is to be expected. That's what healthy debate is about.

What isn't acceptable is rumor mongering, inuendo, aspertions, whisper campaigns, all of which appeal to 'the lizard' in all of us. What's not acceptable is unethical fund raising that requires hidden agendas, agandas that would serve the political donor and might compromise decisions otherwise benefitting the average American. What's not acceptable is maintaining political positions that are postures for electability. Those are the ground rules for any campaign. That's the definition of 'the politics of hope.'

It's fair game for Obama to attack Edwards' record on labor and equally fair for Edwards to defend himself by affirming that these were votes from long ago that do not represent his present positions.

What's not fair is sending out misinformation that Obama took his oath on the Koran (not that it should matter) when it was Keith Ellis a black Congressman from Minnesota - do 'they' really all look
alike? LOL. What's not fair is asserting that Obama attended a radical Madrassa in Indonesia (patently false) or that he had a scurrilous relationship with Antoin Rezko - total nonesense. We know who has been trying to dig up any possible negative information on Obama during his years as a community organizer on Chicago's south side.

The reason that the negatives stick to Hillary and not to Obama (or for that matter any of the other Democratic candidates) is because of past history. People believe things when they fit past patterns. Unfortunately the situation speaks for itself.
Obama '08

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Lynne — Tue, 11 Dec 2007 23:51:55 GMT

Who is Joe Biden? I think everyone is going to find out on Jan. 3rd. Joe's the best thing we have, and I think Iowa is going to make a point of waking up the rest of the country.

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 00:53:21 GMT

Not that a Democrat will get my vote, but in considering who I could end up with, Biden has increasingly become more palatable, despite some of his ancient baggage.

That's not necessarily to say he's actually any better than when the whole thing started. It's more like someone getting better looking the more one has been drinking.

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Matt, Las Vegas, NV — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 01:18:03 GMT

Biden kicks all the Dem. Candidates butts on almost every single issue. He is the Dark Horse in this race that should NOT be underestimated. You may recall that Kerry actually had less support at this point in Iowa than Biden does. Biden has a great grass roots organization, a long track record of working on the issues that matter to Democrats, and the ONLY candidate on either side that has CLEARLY laid out positions on all the major and minor issues.

Richardson only has the support he does because of 2 reasons: 1) Hispanics & 2) His connections to Clinton's presidency. So write that turkey off, besides, he sounds like a moron when he talks about most issues.

Edwards isn't even Presidential material, the guy couldn't win as a VP candidate against a President in the middle of an unpopular war.

Dodd....he's out after Iowa, Clinton will lose Iowa but remains strong, Obama has a limited shelf life.

Biden would kick the Republicans all over the place in the general election, Clinton, Edwards, Obama all have MAJOR risks being the nominee.

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Lori, Central CA — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:05:39 GMT

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Tye — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:17:50 GMT

Joe Biden is the man.

The media needs to give him more attention, he's the only candidate on stage with IDEAS, not celebrities.

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Jeff Hobert, Laguna Niguel, California — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:49:10 GMT

Biden IS making his move now.

First came the November 30th American Research Group poll showing Biden moving past Richardson into 4th place with 8%. Now here is the latest from Chris Matthews:

"...Joe Biden is now the third best bet for the nomination. I'm hearing a lot of buzz about him from people who pay attention."
- Chris Matthews, MSNBC (12/10/07)

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Jeff Hobert, Laguna Niguel, California — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 09:50:19 GMT

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Molly, Iowa City — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:40:26 GMT

Why wont Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, and Richardson (to an extent) just drop out of this race? * * * They simply are taking (possibly) critical votes away from the candidates that could really stand a chance.
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Obama will win the nomination, and then he will win the presidency and unite the country.

Devin, Champaign, Illinois (Sent Tuesday, December 11, 2007 11:27 AM)

I like Obama, but the idea that Obama can even come close to Biden in experience or judgment is a joke. On 3/2/07 Obama said Iran was “a threat to all of us.” Obama stated: “all military options were on the table against Iran”. Obama is on the Foreign Relations committee, but unlike the chairman, Senator Biden, he had no clue, regarding the status of the Iran nuclear threat. He skipped the Kyl-Lieberman vote, and did not publicly speak out against it before the vote. Biden was the only Presidential candidate to speak out against the resolution BEFORE the Senate vote. Issuing a press release after it passes by an overwhelming margin, after skipping the vote isn't political courage!

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Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:43:43 GMT

I would just like to point out that Biden's first ads in Iowa ran earlier this year, and that these new ads are merely his next round of TV ads rather than his first round.

Rev. Rob

You are right the "Cathedral ads" available to view on his website www.joebiden.com ran in August. During the 8/19/07 ABC debate they showed a clip of the ad. Those ads ran for about 2 weeks and were well received.

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maggie SF, CA — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:45:25 GMT

Just what has Biden accomplished for the sorry State of Delaware in the last 30+ years? It's the land that progress forgot!

Delaware Republican

I don't think most people in Delaware would agree, but you certainly haven't progressed intellectually.

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Bruce, Boston MA — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:02:05 GMT

Actually, Delaware was the first of the pre-statehood colonies, and the first official state of the United States.

Carrie, Eastern Iowa

Carrie,

Do you really believe someone from New Jersey posting a political thread doesn't know Delaware is a state? Don't you think more likely that Joe from NJ was making fun of "Delaware Republican" who still can't get over Biden's upset come from behind victory in 1972, against the popular former Governor of Delaware, and and three term congressman and 2 term incumbent GOP Senator Caleb Boggs, when Biden wasn't even 30?

But thanks for the history lesson!

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Jack marengo — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:06:34 GMT

Did you notice that the Biden posts are about voting for him. Obama/HRC/Edwards posts seem to all be about how the others suck. That ought to tell you something. Let's nominate Biden and stop the bickering about who did what in kindergarten and who spent what at the hairdresser.

Lori, Central CA

That is so true. Clinton supporters can't give specifics and build her up, because she really doesn't have any actual provable public record, and neither does Obama. I'd support either one, but if you want the best candidate, it's Joe!

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Christian, Fairfield CT — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:54:35 GMT

I urge everyone to give Joe Biden a look. Her clearly is best choice. While all these candidates are running for President - he continues to act like one