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Grace,Ny — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:01:59 GMT

obiviously she forgot to tell people in Iowa about the E word

The Iowa polls are coming fast and furious, with a new one by Research 2000 (Dec 10-13, 500 Dem & GOP LV, MoE +/-4.5%) showing Obama and Huckabee both leading by nine, which represents a net 11-point swing in Obama's favor over the last month and a net 18-point swing to Huckabee:

Democrats
Obama 33 (+8 vs. last poll Nov 11-14)
Clinton 24 (-3)
Edwards 24 (+3)
Richardson 9 (-1)
Biden 3 (-1)

Hey Van...I'm having to do your job for you.....

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Bill C. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:05:19 GMT

Here we go>>>>>>>>> hillaryclinton.com

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Kaye Miller, WA — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:06:01 GMT

"Work hard"- she is saying that too much lately - too much of a Bushism from 2004

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Kaye Miller, WA — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:07:06 GMT

Also her comments beg the question, if she cannot manage her campaign staff, how can she manage a White House staff, foreign relations and running a whole country?

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JT, IL — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:13:25 GMT

In article on Tuesday, the day before Sheehan's comments, a column appeared on First Read indicating that the Clinton campaign was shopping the drug story.

So this idea that these comments were unauthorized is ludicrous. (after all, let's remember Sheehan isn't some college volunteer but rather National Co-Chair of her campaign.)

Who does she think she's kidding?

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Lyn, MD — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:17:04 GMT

Senator Obama was on the Tom Joyner morning show today. The largest syndicated Black radio station in the country. They were dissing on hillary but he was a gentleman. You can listen below:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/

Clinton personally apologized to Obama on the tarmac of the Ronald Reagan Airport before they flew to Iowa for a debate.
"I take the Clinton campaign's word that they didn't know what this guy was doing and I understand all that, but the one thing I will say is, I told my staff that if I catch you guys doing any kind of stuff like this, you're fired. Period," the Illinois Democrat told syndicated radio morning show host Tom Joyner Friday.

Hillary don't know if Bill can save you on this one...not sure he's "BLACK ENOUGH" despite Andrew Young

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Bill E. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:18:22 GMT

New I poll just released. Hillary Clinton leads by 29 pts. .come see why hillaryclinton.com ( does not take drugs and has never taken illegal drugs)

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Bill C. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:19:05 GMT

That's my girl..hillaryclinton.com

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Chelse — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:19:42 GMT

that's my mom.. hillaryclinton.com

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Paul, NY, NY — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:19:55 GMT

If there is one thing that Clinton lovers and haters alike should never forget is don't ever count her out until it's over. A lot of people on these blogs are the same naysayers who said she would never be elected Senator. And then once she was, that she would wilt under pressure and never be re-elected. Again, she has proven her detractors wrong. No one can deny that Iowa is an incredibly tight race and ironically, the results can be affected by things as simple as the weather, the football game and how many people feel like going out on caucus night. And yet, the results here have the potential to affect later states. I think the compressed calendar does a disservice to both the candidates and the American people in general. One slip up, one YouTube moment and it's over. That is why, regardless of the outcome of Jan. 3 in Iowa, only Clinton and Obama have the muscle and money to go the distance thru Feb 5.

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D.R. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:20:23 GMT

THAT'AS MY DAUGHTER..hillaryclinton.com

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TheQueenBee — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:21:53 GMT

Hillary Rodham Clinton is the best thing since sliced bread!

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Will K. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:28:21 GMT

Somebody needs to ask that racist Goldwater Girl Hillary: "We know your husband did drugs - even though he didn't inhale. Did he ever share them with or sell them to anybody?

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Paul, NY, NY — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:28:54 GMT

Oh please, this NH underling thing is being blown so out of proportion. It's ridiculous. Obama is no angel, let's not forget his Punjab-D memo about Hillary that he had to disavow and put the blame off on a subordinate. And that's only one of many examples of his campaign tactics of hope. The "hope" is that the press continues to anoint him as the next black JFK while overlooking his oh so numerous inadequacies. It's ironic he claims to be an agent of change, yet he knows how to play the game just as well as the establishment. NO ONE makes it to the Senate by being an "outsider" - that's just more spin by every new politician trying to sound fresh. My only hope is that Iowans are smarter than that and caucus for the best candidate - Hillary Clinton!

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Susan, Tampa, Florida — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:29:57 GMT

Whenever she says she will be ready from day one to be president - inferring that the other candidates won't be ready - I just shake my head in disbelief. What IS this huge experience advantage that she thinks she has over Obama, Edwards, Biden, etc.?? She was First Lady of both Arkansas and the US - NOT Governor or President! She has been in the Senate seven years. What major accomplishments has she had in the Senate? And we all know her failure on health care when she was the US First Lady. And now her campaign is totally out of control. Obama, Edwards, Biden, Dodd, and Richardson are equally qualified to lead this country from day one. I prefer Obama, because I so admire his courage and wisdom and judgment in opposing the war in Iraq back in 2002. I just wish more of the media would challenge Hillary on this claim that she has the edge on experience.

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Mike, Cleveland, Ohio — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:35:57 GMT

Hey Grace,
Remember Howard Dean was in the lead too at this time four years ago. And those numbers you just quouted...look at the high percentage of those who are most likely to change their mind before caucus night. Anyone can win in this state.

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T. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:37:09 GMT

DID IT EVER DAWN UPON ANYONE THAT THE OBAMA'S DRUG ISSUE IS A HUGE "NEGATIVE" FOR OBAMA THE PERSON WHO ADMITS THAT HE USED "COCAINE". A HIGHLY ADDIDICTIVE DRUG, WHO'S TO SAY THAT HE WOULD NOT USE IT AGAIN ? WERE TALKING ABOUT C O C A I N E FOR FRIGHIN SAKES.

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Bee, NH — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:37:31 GMT

Van,

I need a fix; please post the latest poll numbers.

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Travis, Louisville, Ky — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:39:06 GMT

Grace, since everything is always, not personal, and then you single someone out I figured I would belittle you publicly the same way you did.

Okay, so Obama is winning in Iowa... Bill Clinton didn't even give Iowa a go and won the presidency. So, let's reference the poll that has Hillary Clinton over 50% with Obama in the very early 30s.

Not only that, but Kerry was out-polling Bush majorly - and Kerry and Obama both relied on tons of youngins to win the nomination. Young people don't win elections, and pacifists don't win commander in chief.

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Stu, Saginaw, MI — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:39:49 GMT

Todd & Domemico;

Apropose of nothing re this item, Ive become terribly disappointed with this entire bolg. When Todd was with the National Journal, he was wonderfully objective. Also, this blog was, then, greatly objective. Now, since the two of you have taken over this space (still like Mark), you folks have done everything possible to CREATE conflicts, most especially with your "leads" into stories/items. It never used to be that way--why is it now? I suspect it's because conflict makes for "news" whereas simple "reporting" does not.

Personally, I wish Todd would go back to his objectivism as it was at the National Journal rather than, as he is on this blog, trying to "create" news and controversies for the sake of stories.

Naturally, Todd will not respond.

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:42:39 GMT

E-word? You mean, 'Eggs'?

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MK, Los Angeles, California — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:43:48 GMT

"I believe that making change requires hard work."

HRC

Doesn't that sound an awful like GW Bush's statement during the 2004 debate that his job is "hard work, got to work hard." I guess HRC and GW Bush approach the Presidency with the same thought process

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:44:06 GMT

Kaye. Dubya has a degree from Harvard Bidness School, and he can't manage the Truth.

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Eric, NY, NY — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:44:39 GMT

If she thinks her campaign staff is fine then she is too blind or too stupid to get it. Even die-hard Hillary fans are being turned off by Mark Penn and his antics.

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Ron, TX — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:56:17 GMT

If Hillary is so very electable, why isn't she ahead very much (if at ALL) in any of those first three or four states?

You'd think someone who claims to be "so much more electable" than the other dems would be quite a bit ahead...

You aren't electable if you lose Iowa, NH, and SC...

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Dante — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:57:00 GMT

LINCOLN BEDROOM

FOX NEWS, 2000 - Hillary Rodham Clinton denied allegations that she or her fund-raisers offered overnight stays in the Lincoln Bedroom and Camp David to supporters of her Senate campaign. "We have friends and supporters come and spend time with us and spend the night with us that we are getting to know and who like spending time with us," Clinton said when questioned at a campaign stop at a western New York diner. "I don't see what's news about that." . . . White House staffers said that since the summer of 1999 there have been at least 26 instances in which people, mainly couples, were overnight guests after donating to the first lady's campaign or promising to do so. . . "The Lincoln Bedroom was never sold," Clinton said in 1997, when the White House released a list of 938 guests who had spent the night at the executive mansion up to that point in the Clinton presidency. The list included the names of political supporters, as well as entertainment luminaries and old Clinton friends

CASTLE GRANDE

1999 Mrs. Clinton is mentioned 36 times in the fraud indictment against Webster Hubbell. Writes the AP's Peter Yost: "Starr alleges Hubbell concealed his own and Mrs. Clinton's work during the 1980s on a failed Arkansas land deal, known as Castle Grande, that federal regulators say was riddled with 'insider dealing, fictitious sales and land flips.'" Yost notes the criminal contempt trial of Susan McDougal: "The indictment against Mrs. McDougal details a series of grand jury questions about Mrs. Clinton and Castle Grande that Mrs. McDougal refused to answer." The Castle Grande project involved a baroque set of deals aimed at least in part in shoring up the McDougal's failing savings and loan.

Not until the immaculate reconception of Mrs. Clinton's billing records in 1996 did her extensive role in the matter come to light. Billing records documenting HRC's work on the Castle Grande development scam were discovered in the family quarters of the White House. HRC said she has no idea how they got there.

She also claimed that she could not remember her work on the project nor 15 conversations with Hubbell's wheeler-dealer father-in-law, Seth Ward. In the end, Castle Grande cost the S&L nearly $4 million in unpaid principal and interest.

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MK, Los Angeles, California — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:57:38 GMT

New I poll just released. Hillary Clinton leads by 29 pts. .come see why hillaryclinton.com ( does not take drugs and has never taken illegal drugs)
Bill E

This is what we call a sock puppet post: A paid Clinton campaign staffer pretending to be an unaffiliated person, then they make a BS statement like (Iowa poll shows Cliton with 29 point lead), and then direct you to Clinton's web site. DO NOT BUY IT. IT IS BS.

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vanreuter, NY NY — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:58:31 GMT

Talk about adversarial... It's, "Gorification", Redux!

"So senator Clinton, when did you stop (insert horrible, sourceless accusation here)We keep HOPING for a SHAKE-UP in your campaign to validate our narrative about how it's in a shambles and on the verge of a shake-up; When can we expect that to happen and how many times will we have to insinuate it before then?
"Senator Obama admitted to using cocaine, why won't you pledge that mentioning it will again validate our narrative about how your panicked campaign, (which is in a shambles and on the verge of a shake-up)is playing dirty. We'd really like to save that cocaine thing for the general election, if you know what I mean (as in, if Obama was the nominee), as the republicans really know how to knock that one out of the park, and we should be in full "tear down", buyers remorse mode by then..."

"We'd really LOVE to create the impression of tension between you and your husband (he's such great copy!) about your campaign (Which, is in a shambles and on the verge of a MAJOR shake-up!!!PLEASE PLEASE!)

(I call this tactic, "Gorification", in honor of Al Gore, who received almost IDENTICAL treatment in 2000 during the primaries against Bill,"Big Media's choice", Bradley. Gore was depicted as being, cold, aloof, wonkish, pedantic,thin-skinned and not entirely honest. Every movement and statement Gore made was filtered through this narrative so that the tone of stories about him reflected the coldness, aloofness, etc., thus validating and reinforcing the pre-established story-line.

When she wins Iowa, what will the Big Media narrative switch to then? Will she continue be "Gorified", throughout the primaries, or will the machine set it's
sights on a new target? They NEVER let Al go, even after he won the nomination. They carried his narrative all the way through to election night.
Now, almost eight years later, he's emerged as a media darling, and the old narrative has been replaced with one so positive that the media STILL hopes and prays for a Gore candidacy this election cycle (Come back Al, all is forgiven!)with all their might. Mr. Gore is wise not to trust them, and it is a sad thing for us that they didn't like him when it would have meant something.

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Hill Topper — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:59:40 GMT

E-word? Exit?

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--NSMSNBC — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:03:35 GMT

"She also declined to make any pledge not to air negative ads unless that pledge was signed by all the Democratic candidates and argued that drawing distinctions was a legitimate thing to do."
--I agree with Sen. Clinton on this. Much like Obama an patriotism, I'd rather the candidate show me in actions than tell me.

"I said, ‘Are we having a shake-up? I don’t know anything about it.’"
--Yeah, like she's going to admit that the organization is in disarray, petty infighting is tearing it apart at the seams, and many campaign insiders, Fmr. Pres. Clinton, and Sen. Clinton herself are wall orried. She answered the idiot reporter well.

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Dave, Tn — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:08:06 GMT

Desperado, why don’t you come to your senses?
You been out ridin’ fences for so long now
Oh, you’re a hard one
I know that you got your reasons
These things that are pleasin’ you
Can hurt you somehow

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Kaye Miller, WA — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:08:26 GMT

What was Hillary doing as a TEENAGER? She was a REPULICAN, and a Goldwater "Girl" - far more dangerous than youthful indescretions with substances.

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Kaye Miller, WA — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:14:11 GMT

Thanx MK, that was my point too!!

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vanreuter, NY NY — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:15:39 GMT

Grace,Ny (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 3:01 PM)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/

Posted every day. The difference is that you never had anything worth posting before, as you would never post any poll where your guy wasn't leading, and I post links to all the polls, no matter who's leading.

Fox NH poll

Clinton-34(30)
Obama- 25(23)
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/FOX_NH-2_DEC_RELEASE_WEB.pdf

CNN SC

Clinton-42
Obama- 34

ARG National

Clinton-41
Obama- 22

Quinnipiac NJ

Clinton-51
Obama- 17

CA

Clinton-44
Obama- 20

They're all here;
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

Hotline, Ia

Clinton-27
Obama- 27

Rasmussen IA

Clinton-29
Obama- 26

Happy?

Van

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Kaye Miller, WA — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:19:35 GMT

So "T" following your line of reason, becuz what a person was or did as a TEENAGER, Hillary is probably going to turn into a REPUBLICAN

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vanreuter, NY NY — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:20:37 GMT

Talk about adversarial... It's, "Gorification", Redux!

"So senator Clinton, when did you stop (insert horrible, sourceless accusation here) We keep HOPING for a SHAKE-UP in your campaign to validate our narrative about how it's in a shambles and on the verge of a shake-up; When can we expect that to happen and how many times will we have to insinuate it before it does?

"Senator Obama admitted to using cocaine, why won't you pledge that mentioning it will again validate our narrative about how your panicked campaign, (which is in a shambles and on the verge of a shake-up) is playing dirty. We'd really like to save that cocaine thing for the general election, if you know what I mean (as in, if Obama was the nominee), as the republicans really know how to knock that one out of the park, and we should be in full "tear down", buyers remorse mode by then..."

"We'd really LOVE to create the impression of tension between you and your husband (he's such great copy!) about your campaign (Which, is in a shambles and on the verge of a MAJOR shake-up!!!PLEASE PLEASE!) So could you deny the unattributed rumors, so we can turn THAT into a story about how "Clinton DENIES, "reports" of Bill being unhappy with her campaign (which is in a shambles...)

(I call this tactic, "Gorification", in honor of Al Gore, who received almost IDENTICAL treatment in 2000 during the primaries against Bill,"Big Media's choice", Bradley. Gore was depicted as being, cold, aloof, wonkish, pedantic,thin-skinned and not entirely honest. Every movement and statement Gore made was filtered through this narrative so that the tone of stories about him reflected the coldness, aloofness, etc., thus validating and reinforcing the pre-established story-line.

When she wins Iowa, what will the Big Media narrative switch to then? Will she continue be "Gorified", throughout the primaries, or will the machine set it's
sights on a new target? They NEVER let Al go, even after he won the nomination. They carried his narrative all the way through to election night.
Now, almost eight years later, he's emerged as a media darling, and the old narrative has been replaced with one so positive that the media STILL hopes and prays for a Gore candidacy this election cycle (Come back Al, all is forgiven!)with all their might. Mr. Gore is wise not to trust them, and it is a sad thing for us that they didn't like him when it would have meant something.

Van
(2nd try)

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Larry, san diego — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:29:32 GMT

so here is HRC and Bill back in thier hippie days...... and you think she has never smoked dope, get real

http://www.strangepolitics.com/content/item/10315.html

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Bee, NH — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:29:46 GMT

Van,

Common, why didn't you include all the polls number? As usual, you are so one sided. Post the entire latest polls not only the one that is favorable to Billary Clinton.

What about the new Concord poll in NH ...lol... Your candidate is toast.

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T.J. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:30:03 GMT

PPsssssssssss. Obama, i got some of the "good stuff" call soon.

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Sean — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:32:02 GMT

Susan, Tampa, Florida: If you truly don't believe that HRC wasn't fully engaged in Bill's presidency then you don't know what Wellesley College is all about.

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Sean — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:33:17 GMT

I wonder if the Clinton campaign is intentionally downplaying her position in IA to then come in first easily - then the rest will be done.

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Caroline, MI — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:37:08 GMT

Van,
Glad you're back...we've missed you so!

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BIGOLDTEXAN — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:41:30 GMT

Somebody needs to ask that racist Goldwater Girl Hillary: "We know your husband did drugs - even though he didn't inhale. Did he ever share them with or sell them to anybody?
Will K. (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 3:28 PM)

What Bill said was that he did drugs twice and didn`t inhale.
My question is than why twice if you didn`t inhale.

Lair....Lair....Lair Pants on firer!

If you do drugs twice I guess the first time was good for you.

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Dante — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:44:28 GMT

Van what polls are you looking at? how old are those numbers?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/latestpolls/index.html

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George, FL — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:48:04 GMT

I love the acrimony that is now surfacing. You know, Obama really is not saint, angel or divine being. He's had his slip-ups and he has CERTAINLY attacked Hillary Clinton. I urge many of you to re watch the Philadelphia debate. Drawing distinctions and attacking both have a fine line, but once Senator Clinton does it people cry wolf. But you know, I love that there is a rigorous vetting process going here and that Obama isn't getting the flack he deserves. The republicans will not give up without a big fight whether it's Senator Clintor OR Senator Obama. And trust me there will be electibility issues with him already - his polling on the electibility issue among Dems is MUCH lower than Senator Clinton already. So the argument panders to engendered Republican myths and not a truly open and fair Democratic primary process. I hope for all our sakes we take a closer look at some sanctified candidates if we truly hope to win in '08.

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Masterofsparks, Mason City, Iowa — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:52:02 GMT

Hey Iowa....Whats that in the sky? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No its HILL-O-COPTER coming to a town near you!
Kinda sounds like Dukakis in a tank huh! Wonder if she will wear a silly hat? Maybe she should just ride her broom!!
Go OBAMA! Any one smell the desperation from the woman who would be queen?

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ace p washington, d.c. — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:53:42 GMT

thank god all this poll crap wil be at an end soon as far as the early states are concerned. there is so much stuff posted here that has half truths, not true and has no meaning at all. drugs in high school. give me a break. that isn't worth the mental thought to consider. nothing is sticking because nothing is there except hopeful wishes by those who need to hate. whoever wins. win. we will all see soon.

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Tuck, realityville, KS — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:54:42 GMT

Rezko, a Syrian-born U.S. citizen who owned a real estate development business and a group of fast-food franchises, has spent his career showering Illinois officials with campaign money. He was a top fundraiser for Democratic Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich.

His connection to Obama began when the future senator got national attention as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. Rezko was impressed by what he read and offered Obama a job.

The two men kept in contact and he became one of the earliest donors to Obama's campaign when he ran for a state Senate seat in 1996.

Their relationship came into the spotlight last October, the same month Rezko was indicted on federal charges, with the disclosure that Rezko had played a role in the senator's purchase of a home.

Obama bought a house and lot. Rezko's wife bought an undeveloped property next door. The two parcels had once been a single tract of land.

Obama paid $1.65 million for the house and lot while Rezko paid $625,000 for the undeveloped lot. Six months later, Rezko sold a strip of his property to Obama, who wanted to increase the size of his side yard. Obama paid Rezko $104,500, which he says was the market rate.

While Obama has said that the transaction was handled ethically, he has conceded the perception of favor-trading it created was a "boneheaded" mistake.

Rezko is charged with plotting to shake down money management firms hoping to do business with the Illinois Teachers Retirement System, a $39 billion state pension fund, for kickbacks.

He also is charged with swindling the General Electric Capitol Corp. out of $10 million in a deal involving the purchase of pizza restaurants.

Rezko attorney Joseph J. Duffy declined to comment on the case.

While Obama turned down Rezko's offer of a job back in 1991, he ended up in a group of real estate deals involving the developer anyway. He accepted a position at the law firm then known as Davis Miner & Barnhill.

At the firm, he represented community groups that partnered with a developer in getting city and state housing rehabilitation loans. The developer was Rezko. Obama estimates he did only about five hours of work.

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--NSMSNBC — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:57:51 GMT

Van: Everything in politics seems to be filtered through a narrative, the media does and the campaigns do. For example, every little think B.H. Obama does outside the norm that is Washington politics, he gets labeled as inexperienced--and H.R. Clinton is never shy about making points through this filter. Likewise, H.R. Clinton is viewed as a polarizing figure; thus everything gets filtered through that stereotype. Mitt Romney the flip-flopper, Huckabee the Christian, Giuliani the 9/11, F. Thompson lacking in energy and drive, Edwards the $400 haircut, Edwards the attack machine, Edwards the trial lawyer, Edwards the 2003 nice candidate, Biden the gaffe machine, and Kucinich the wonk. The trick is to keep one's nose clean and contradict the negative--neither of which H.R. Clinton has been doing of late. And THAT is why she has been getting so much negative press. (The media have already locked the election for her if she wins Iowa, which she won't, so quit fretting about that). So, maybe people should worry less about the media and more about the campaign and what they bring. Quit shutting down the conversations with substance. Sounds to me like people believe in H.R. Clinton's right, inevitability or chances to be the next President more than what she stands for and who she is. What makes you think your candidate is so special that she deserves special treatment? It's not like she's The Queen--that title goes to Oprah!

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Jan, Nashua, NH — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 21:59:09 GMT

These kinds of posts just crack me up:
"Even die-hard Hillary fans are being turned off by Mark Penn and his antics."
Eric, NY, NY (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM)"

We are, are we?
I just L.M.F.A.O. at idiots like you.
I'm guessing you've never even been in the same room with a die-hard Hillary fan, O Wise One!

---
Poll lesson for the day:
Check poll org against poll org, not poll against poll. And be VERY careful depending on state polls for your emotional lift on any given day.

And, when the margin of error is +/- 4.5 %, do Obama supporters actually even know what that means?
(Just wondering. You all suddenly seem VERY excited about POLLS -- haha)

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Sean — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:12:15 GMT

Kaye Miller, WA: Running a campaign is a lot different than managing an administration.

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Ross Bloom, Iowa — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:13:54 GMT

These kinds of posts just crack me up:
"Even die-hard Hillary fans are being turned off by Mark Penn and his antics."
Eric, NY, NY (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 3:44 PM)"

We are, are we?
I just L.M.F.A.O. at idiots like you.

-----------

Well, we are certainly happy that you are entertained. It is all about you I guess.

We can expect that there will always be fanatics out there that don't have any reasoning skills.

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Sierra, SF — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:14:26 GMT

'...the endorsement of Iowa U.S. Rep. Leonard Boswell (D),....'

Isn't that like booking a suite on the Titanic AFTER it hits that iceberg ?
What did they promise you, Lennie ?

FYI:
The 'E worrd' is electable...
If Hillary loses Iowa, does that make her electable ?
If she loses badly in Iowa, that will push down her vote in NH and SC

Watch the national polls change if that happens !!

Electable Hillary ?
Maybe not...

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Sean — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:20:01 GMT

Bee: Not sure why you get all riled up about the primary - you aren't even a Democrat.
____________________________
Van,

Common, why didn't you include all the polls number? As usual, you are so one sided. Post the entire latest polls not only the one that is favorable to Billary Clinton.

What about the new Concord poll in NH ...lol... Your candidate is toast.

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Sean — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:23:51 GMT

Wonder when if a candidate admitted to doing a hit of E now and again if anyone would care? What about crystal meth?

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Ava — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:27:41 GMT

Hillary obviously isn’t thinking this whole thing through. You see, we all know that that corrupt witch is the Karl Rove of the democratic party. Hillary says that we shouldn’t put Obama up against the GOP because he hasn’t been vetted. Actually, he HAS been thoroughly vetted – by Hillary Clinton’s sleazy little minions.

If anything, what is absolutely clear from the ridiculous indiscriminate spray of attacks that she has subjected the Obama campaign to over the last several months, is that they don’t have ANYTHING on Obama besides what’s already in the public realm. When you dig up something a guy wrote in kindergarten to try to paint him as overly ambitious. You have nothing. If all they had to work with was teenage drug use that he already wrote about, you have nothing.

Our current republican president and the previous democratic president have BOTH used drugs in their youth as well, so obviously that’s not a disqualifier for becoming president.

Hillary will try every sleazy trick on him. It’s all in how Obama handles it, which, up to this point, he’s doing very well. If he can make it through to cinch the nomination, we’ll know he’s tough enough. If he can stand up to OUR Karl Rove, he can stand up to the GOP’s version.

Obama 2008

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Stay Focused — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:33:42 GMT

Oh my God, are we now comparing her to Bush? Give it a rest! Do you know everything your boss, co-workers or your kids do and say at any given moment? No you don’t. Hell, while we’re at it, let’s blame her for the bad weather too. How old are we? Maybe its time to grow up....... Stay focused people.

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Grow up — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:38:43 GMT

BIGOLDTEXAN wrote:
Somebody needs to ask that racist Goldwater Girl Hillary: "We know your husband did drugs - even though he didn't inhale. Did he ever share them with or sell them to anybody?
Will K. (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 3:28 PM)

What Bill said was that he did drugs twice and didn`t inhale.
My question is than why twice if you didn`t inhale.

Lair....Lair....Lair Pants on firer!

If you do drugs twice I guess the first time was good for you.
BIGOLDTEXAN how old are you?

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MK, Los Angeles, California — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:06:46 GMT

Poll lesson for the day:
Check poll org against poll org, not poll against poll. And be VERY careful depending on state polls for your emotional lift on any given day.
Jan

Actually the poll lesson of the day is not to look at the raw numbers but the trends (the + and - from polls done by the same pollster). If you look at the polls from this vantage point you will see an uptrend in Senator Obama's numbers and a down trend in Senator Clinton's numbers. Want proof look at realclearpolitics graph lines for the early voting states, notice the lines on the graph showing a sharp downward turn in Senator Clinton's numbers and a sharp upward turn in Senator Clinton's? This is what the media when they speak of momentum.

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Ron, TX — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:19:20 GMT

And, when the margin of error is +/- 4.5 %, do Obama supporters actually even know what that means?
(Just wondering. You all suddenly seem VERY excited about POLLS -- haha)
Jan, Nashua, NH (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 4:59 PM)
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We're going to love polls even more when the first poll that counts, on January 3rd in Iowa, has him 15 points over Hillary...

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Eliot, Los Angeles, CA — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:23:57 GMT

To Susan, Tampa, Florida:

Hillary talks about being ready on day one because among of those who are running, on both sides mind you, she is the only one who, for eight years working side by side with her husband, knows the workings of the White House in and out. For you attempt to dismiss her as just a First Lady is both inaccurate and shows a complete lack of knowledge on your part of the Clinton presidency. Further, as she was actually not president, the Health Care attempt and failure falls on the shoulders of the president. He rightly pointed this out a few weeks back. So before you attempt to minimize her as someone who just had luncheons and cut ribbons to open shopping malls...you may actually want to do a bit of research so you don’t come across as ignorant as your post suggests you are.

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diane — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:00:01 GMT

A question for the koolaid drinkers:
If Obama can so easily go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and walk away the winner while she is left looking like a fool, how is she more electable than Obama. How can she stand up to the republican attack machine when she crumbles if she is challenge alittle on foreign policy.
And what kind of executive is she if her staff is going off on their own and doing things like smear emails and calling up the Washington Post to trash Obama and putting plants in the audience, ect. ect.

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Stephen — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:05:09 GMT

The real candidate to beat... www.johnedwards.com... the honest candidate we can trust.

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DAVID ANDERS PHARR,TX. — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:14:15 GMT

HILLARY NEEDS TO BORROW A LINE OR TWO FROM OBAMA, NO PUN INTENDED. DOES SHE REALLY THINK BILL NEVER INHALED? THIS WOMAN IS SCARCY. She should have apoligized about stealing the Whitehouse furniture.

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Joanesky, Sacramento, CA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:24:38 GMT

Hilary is falling apart and some people fail to see why. Hilary’s campaign was based on many sets of assumptions that turn out to be mirage. First and foremost, Hilary’s campaign under-estimated Senator Obama; they thought that by cornering all the Democratic power establishment they will win; they fail to understand how problematic and challenges Hilary poses as a candidate and etc.

Senator Obama is a very clever politician who understands human behavior in relation to politics. He has been attacking and wearing down Hilary without appearing to be doing so. He skips all the baits put in his way. Attacking a candidate like Obama will not make him to lose support; but instead, it is going to win him sympathy as underdog.

Here is the big lesson for Hilary. Our Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger ran against an incumbent Governor Davis and won. Arnold never had one day of prior experience in government. But Davis had lots of experience but he was not inspiring and likeable. Most people do not vote with their heads but with their hearts. Bill Clinton is a very likeable character and the society was ready to over-look the frailties of his personal life and he won re-election. It is the same with President W. Bush.

Senator Obama is likeable, appears genuine and authentic and exudes confidence way and above politicians with his experience. Since he was not convicted on cocaine charges and he voluntarily shared his use of cocaine, he is going to win sympathy from the voters and the outcome is very predictable.

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Kaye Miller, WA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:25:56 GMT

The Bush comparisons seem more INEVITABLE than her winning the early primaries. Mark Penn is now being compared to Karl Rove and his tactics as is the whole Hillary campaign. I feel her choice of the recurrent phrase about how she is going to work hard to be unfortunate as Bushy used that so much in his campaign in 2004 and was parodied ruthlessly on SNL for that.

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Kaye Miller, WA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:27:56 GMT

Hillary really is benefitting from the writers strike, Jon Stewart, Leno, Letterman and SNL would have shiskabobed her and her staff for the stupid Kgarten, teenage drug use, and belated staff "resignations" (wink, wink)

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:33:23 GMT

Clinton is trying to sell herself as most electable? That's a stretch.

She consistently has negatives in the high 40s. Not mathematically impossible to win, but pretty tough.

You win general elections on two points. First is having your side more energized than the other. Second is winning among independents. Clinton isn't a good candidate for either.

She would energize Republicans more than any other Democrat, and I'll include Lyndon Larouche in that statement.

The independents thing is more a gut feeling on my part, as opposed to the above paragraph, which is political truism. Independents value trust more than members of either party - at least that's what the talking heads say. Clinton came into this campaign with questions about her integrity, and whether fairly or unfairly, those negative perceptions have only been reinforced.

In short, she's the one candidate on the Democratic side who couldn't win (okay, Kucinich makes two).

Just my two cents.

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B.King — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:34:45 GMT

HILLARY ROCKS ! ROCK ON HILLARY..hillaryclinton.com

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MK, Los Angeles, California — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:43:34 GMT

"a sharp upward turn in Senator Clinton's" sorry I meant to say sharp upward turn for Senator Obama.

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Margaret, NYC — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:56:59 GMT

Time.com - The Page - reporting Obama's cocaine use not limited to teen years - but into his 20s!!!
Looks like sex and drugs are part of Hillary's and Obama's campaigns.
Go Edwards!

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Lee — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:23:18 GMT

I don't understand why people are so down on Hillary. She is flat out the most experienced among the top three. Folks don't you know the more dirt you throw the less ground you gain? You are the ones that made my mind up to support Hillary. Some women will not vote for a woman because the majority of women are petty and jealous. Only strong women suppot another women.

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MK, Los Angeles, California — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:17:53 GMT

Time.com - The Page - reporting Obama's cocaine use not limited to teen years - but into his 20s!!!

Hate to burst your bubble Margaret but Bill, Al , and John Kerry were all smoking weed into their twenties, Bush was snorting coke into his twenties. Doesn't seem to have bothered voters, why you?

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MK, Los Angeles, California — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 03:24:46 GMT

Oh and Margaret I went to Time magazine's "the Page" and there was nothing there like you said there was. Please direct me to the article.

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K.Kong — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:18:21 GMT

If Obama can so easily go toe to toe with the Clinton machine and walk away the winner while she is left looking like a fool, how is she more electable than Obama. How can she stand up to the republican attack machine when she crumbles if she is challenge alittle on foreign policy

-- diane

diane - Hillary can't even win in her own party's primary. She won't even come in second. Everytime she debates, she goes in hoping for a draw, but then ends up getting buried. The woman is an absolute train wreck.

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Kathy, Tampa, Florida — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:20:11 GMT

Susan, Tampa, Florida

" I prefer Obama, because I so admire his courage and wisdom and judgment in opposing the war in Iraq back in 2002. I just wish more of the media would challenge Hillary on this claim that she has the edge on experience. "

You can get amswer here
http://theleftcoaster.com/archives/011500.php

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nohope — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:25:09 GMT

It is sad that not many people realized that the "hope" is hopeless.

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nohope — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 04:25:11 GMT

It is sad that not many people realized that the "hope" is hopeless.

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Paying attention voter, Mesa, Az — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 07:44:45 GMT

If the other candidates got the kid glove treatment from the media like Obama maybe they would be up in the polls. The media is fawning over Obama like he is the second coming. He gives a speech about change but doesn't tell you what changes. Why aren't the media pressing him on issues. He has been just as negative if not more but does it in a sneeky way. No one attacks him when he does it.

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Observer, Palisades Park, NJ — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:50:14 GMT

Where is the surge that you are all making a fuss about.
For more than three weeks the OHB "surge" is nothing but talk.
Give us a break. What you wish for is not happening.

HRC is the nominee.

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Lynne, Little Rock, Arkansas — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:58:53 GMT

Would somebody please explain the relationship between "Obama, Osama", and this Rezco Mafioso?
I have not seen anyone on this blog bring this up, except this smart person named "tuck from Realtyville, KS".
I have heard about Rezco and Obama before but it seemingly went away, this is a big deal and it is factual.
Not only does "Osama, Obama" have Muslim ties but he is a dopehead, inexperienced crook from Chicago.
This country cannot afford another President that is weak, crooked and inexperienced.
I ask you all to examine what this person "Osama, Obama" is really all about and search your heart to see if you trust your America, your lives and your famililies lives with a person such as this. If so what in his background substantiates such an important decision? Some say he is handsome, Charismatic and Charming. He is not any of these things to me, but that really does not matter but it could be
what some folks who are followers are basing their
feelings about him on. Please look at his qualifications and his background before you make such
an important decision as to support him for President of our America.

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Bill C. — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:30:50 GMT

GOOD MORNING LADIES AND GENTELMEN. YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS ? IT'S CLINTONTIME... hillaryclinton.com

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B. King — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:47:08 GMT

HILLARY CONTINUES TO ROCK ! ROCK ON HILLARY...........hillaryclinton.com

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:48:54 GMT

Lol, "nohope."

So the Clinton campaign is down to a message of "hope is hopeless," delivered by someone who not only doesn't want to use his or her name, but who goes by "nohope?"

Speaking of hiding behind false identities, anyone else catch the story about Blue Hampshire? Its a small but influential blog of New Hampshire progressive activists and Democratic Party insiders. They welcome campaign staffers, but ask that they indicate their status when registering.

Blue Hampshire just days ago kicked out four registered members. The four failed to note their positions in the Clinton campaign when they registered.

The website grew suspicious at what seemed like "coordinated" activities by the four. Then noticed the four had registered within minutes of one another. Then, Blue Hampshire was able to track the IP address for all four back to a single Clinton campaign computer.

The Clinton campaign is taking this latest embarrassment seriously. According to the Blue Hampshire website, the Clinton state chair in New Hampshire said these were the actions of "overzealous" supporters acting outside the campaign.

Funny in that the line is getting so old. "Oh, he's just the national co-chair, but obviously acting outside the campaign." Also, kind of makes you wonder who we have with us here on First Read.

Think back to all those times we've seen "BillC" and "Chelsea" promote the Clinton campaign website. Hmmm. Probably not Bill and Chelsea, but then it only shows this propensity to use false identities. In fact, false identities are flaunted in our faces.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:52:33 GMT

Now admittedly Dick Morris and Hillary Clinton have little love for each other but I was amused by his article with Eileen McGann written for Real Clear Polics today. Here is an excerpt:

By stressing experience, Hillary is basing her campaign on a fraud. Like her Senate race, which was premised on the obvious lie that she wanted to be a New Yorker, her presidential race is rooted in the fabrication that she was the principal actress in her husband's presidency.

In fact, she was an observer (a close-up one, to be sure); at most a kibitzer, sending in advice from time to time but surely not a principal.

Yes, she had actual line responsibility, in the first two years of his presidency - a time of dismal failure. But her role from late 1995 to 1997 was scarcely more than a traditional first lady's: She toured the country, wrote books, cut ribbons and traveled the world.

Even her return to a role of power - when the Lewinsky scandal all but closed down the Clinton presidency at the start of 1998 - was only in the realm of damage control, not as a formulator of public policy. Then, the final year of Bill's tenure saw her absorbed in her own Senate campaign, no longer much interested in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., except as a springboard.

To me this says what I actually believe to be the truth about Hillary's alleged preparedness to be president. This illusion of supreme readiness could do a great disservice to the voting public but I feel that most remember enough of the truth not to be fooled by this chicanery.
Obama '08

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Bill C. — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:02:33 GMT

Here we go again >>>>>> hillaryclinton.com

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Ed, Houma — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:25:09 GMT

Help Unite The Republican Party......Nomnate Hillary Clinton "08"

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chris, Boston, MA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:54:14 GMT

The white House and Obama o.k don't forget jesse jackson and al sharpton to his cabinet. Oprah endorsing him come on it's a black thing. Black people should celebrate. if you are in prison their is HOPE for a new trial or Pardon by Obama.Whoever things they know Obama don't be dissappointed you thought you new George Bush who ran as a uniter not a divider. The media easy to analyze and critisize a white person but scared to analye and critisize a Black person they don't wonna be the next DON IMUS or labelled racist.

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Rick,ky — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:10:56 GMT

Clinton said "We don’t know what’s going to happen in the future, and we need a president who is ready on Day One for anything.” Well DOH!!!! Would'nt even you or me be ready for anything on day 1. Such another stupid statement from a campaign in a Freefall. I missed a lot yesterday, but I've been reading this morning. 1st of all, Bee, i'd bet the farm there is plenty of Carrie's all over Iowa.For those who say Barack's race will somehow keep him from winning, i'd just havta say, tell that to heartland of America, which has seen him alot this year. Evidently his race is'nt playing very badly on their minds to have him polling 1st nowadays. Or to the people of New Hampshire, who have him polling 1st there Now.The times i've seen Barack, i've noticed in the background, lot's of Caucasion's seem to be taking the time out of their busy schedules to come & listen to him. So for all of you that bring Race into this campaign, "You're a Racist from the getgo" & your vote was'nt ever going to be for Barack.

"Being accused of lying tends to piss me off. Honest people tend to not like being accused of being dishonest.
Carrie, Eastern Iowa (Sent Friday, December 14, 2007 2:27 PM

Carrie , i read all the comment's on here in full & this week you seem to be on a Rampage. You want barack to come to you personally & explain his PAST drug use, even tho, by your comment's all week, No answer he can give, will Ever convince you to vote for him. You claim to be for Biden, yet You personally jump into Hail the Queen at every oppurtunity. If you are such an ardent Biden supporter, why not continuosly have your comment's as to why we should vote for him. I like Biden also, Just not for POTUS. Barack answered the Past drug use question when bringing it out in the open, I'd suggest you read his book for further answer's (which from what i can tell, is'nt gonna Convince you either). Back to your comment i copied & pasted, I'd say Barack is much like you in that regard, as Lies were being told upon his Character & he has responded accordingly. You may not like his response, but he responded, quite well as far as i'm concerned, & by other's who have moved on about this.

I've seen other's in the past post that they're like me & want to see an end to the Politics of Personal Destruction. That means, No more Bush's & No more Clinton's calling the shots of the American people!!!

" DELUSIONAL THINKING BY COMMON SENSE AMERICAN'S IS OVER "

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Donna, Gorham, NH — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 17:30:37 GMT

If HRC wanted a "clean" campaign, she would have stated to her top advisers, no character assasination. Do you really think HRC didn't know about Bill Shaheen trying to smear attack Obama? In my heart, she knew. It was all a strategy to bring the issue out and then make herself look "above it all" by denouncing Mr. Shaheen. Total calculation. Ugh. Calculation is a thing of the past.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:10:07 GMT

Below is what the Blue Hampshire website posted about the episode I mentioned. I'm offerng this follow-up because I noticed it was actually more than four registrations they received from the same Clinton campaign computer.

Also, that last userID sounded familiar. "kmeisje." Didn't we have someone here using that name?

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Recently, we admins noticed this comment thread on a recommended diary, and the oddities it posed made us look a little deeper than we normally would.
As the comment thread revealed, users pinballwizard, elf, shley24, MTAY all registered in succession to recommend the diary. A further look by us revealed that:

* they had registered within minutes of each other, including another user a bit later, janbaby, who was not among the recommenders,
* the same IP address was used by all of them, and is registered to the Clinton campaign,
* two other recommenders, blues and kmeisje, also registered from the same IP address.

To be clear, and to reiterate what's stated in our Getting Started page: paid campaign staff are welcome in this community, but are asked to disclose their affiliation to a campaign, either through their signature line, a disclosure statement on a diary, or even in the choosing of a username. The fact that all the users mentioned above came from a Clinton campaign IP, but did not register with campaign email addresses, and avoided making comments or diaries, instead only recommending pro-Clinton diaries, strikes us as gaming the system and a form of "recommend astroturf." As a result, we have banned those accounts, and will do so again for undisclosed paid staffers of any campaign if need be.

We have spoken with Kathleen Strand, who assured us that this was not an orchestrated effort but the product of over-eager staffers and volunteers, done without her awareness, and that it will not be repeated. We appreciate her responsiveness and believe that this may indeed be a misunderstanding of low-level staffers of the norms of the site.

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Ellis B. Kingman, Az. — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:00:07 GMT

Crunch time is upon us and people are beginning to realize Hillarys' managerial skills are suspect in so far as she cannot even control her campaign staff or provide them direction. While this is obvious, people are also beginning to see past the Clinton rhetoric that she supports mainstream America and the working class. If this were so, why does more than 70% of her campaign money come from corporate America and special interest? Are people dumb enough to believe Hillary has not sold her soul in order to make history and provide Bill a third term and a new intern staff? I believe rational people can see through the Clinton smoke screen and are smarter than media pundits believe...Edwards is the rational choice

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Susan, Tampa — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 21:41:55 GMT

It is most amusing to read complaints about my previous post pointing out that Hillary was First Lady, not President. People wrote that she was almost a co-president - yet, on the one major official duty she was charged with fixing - health care - she failed totally. But these apologists then say that that wasn't HER fault as Bill was the president, not Hillary! Come on! What pathetic reasoning! I have read other comments on this First Read forum that Abraham Lincoln served only one term in Congress - two years - before becoming president, in addition to his time in the Illinois State Legislature. All of the Democrats running have more experience than Lincoln had when he ran in 1860. But it is the wisdom and judgment and honesty of a person that is really important. On all of those fronts, Hillary is woefully lacking. She sided with George Bush on the two major foreign policy issues - Iraq and Iran. As I stated before, she was a total flop in trying to remedy health care. Her current campaign is a complete mess - kindergarten-gate, Shaheen and Penn, etc. Also, if she is so proud of her role in the White House, why are she and Bill stonewalling on disclosing all of the records of those years? We need a healer - not a polarizer - as the next president. Obama is going to be that person.

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ace p washington, d.c. — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 01:31:42 GMT

in as little as 20 days we will all know how this race is shaping up. we will know if hillary is on a downward turn or remaining steady. we will find out if john gains some momentum so he can garnish the much needed donations to acquire matching funds so he can compete at the same level as hillary and obama, we will see if obama truly has the momentum that the polls indicate. we will see if richardson gains enough ground to stay in the race. i think dodd, kucinich and biden will be done. i don't like that because i think biden is a fantastic candidate to be in the race. i would like to see him be able to go deep in this race. if he would accept it, he would make a really good v.p. and advisor.

no matter whoever wins the democratic nomination i will support. that includes hillary. i just think that the democratic candidates are a cut above any gop candidate.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Sun, 16 Dec 2007 17:56:46 GMT

Rick:

I frequently post about Biden, which you would know if you really did read all the posts here as you claim you do.

I didn't say that I expect Obama to personally apologize to me. I said that he opened the door to questions about his drug use, and he is now obliged to answer those questions. I would say the same thing about any other candidate who admitted to using cocaine.

If Obama gets the nomination, I will happily vote for him. I won't caucus for him, however, because I think there are better candidates than him. I prefer Biden to all of the other potential nominees.