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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:37:38 GMT

Paul Krugman: "And nothing Mr. Obama has said suggests that he appreciates the bitterness of the battles he will have to fight if he does become president, and tries to get anything done."

It was also, as recently as a month ago, constantly repeated that nothing Obama has done suggests that he appreciates the bitterness of the battles he would have to fight to beat Clinton for the nomination - and yet look at what's happened since then.

Also, I don't think the Kerrey quote about Obama is a negative, and the Clinton campaign would be foolish to come to that conclusion were they to. Spelling out his full name and heritage in the context of how it helps us reach out to a billion Muslims in the world turns whatever negative there might be into a huge positive, and it was gracious of Kerrey to do that for a candidate he does not support. It's not often that one points out the unique general election strengths of a rival candidate.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:37:48 GMT

And some more Bill news… “Securities and Exchange Commission documents and financial- disclosure forms filed by Hillary Clinton show that Bill Clinton, 61, has a financial stake in three investment entities registered in the Cayman Islands by Burkle's Yucaipa Cos. LLC. In 2004, Hillary Clinton, a New York senator, said she wanted to ‘close the loopholes’ for ‘people who create a mailbox, or a drop, or send one person to sit on the beach in some island paradise and claim that it is their offshore headquarters.’”

Guess those loopholes can be overcome when your name is Clinton.....

KUCINICH: The New Hampshire Union Leader profiles Kucinich and describes him as, “Small and intense, the 61-year-old Democratic congressman from Ohio prides himself on taking a strong stand on issues.

A loony that is listed as one of the worst Mayor's of all time but has a hot wife. I guess batting 500 is not bad....

Hillary was on Good Morning America and then I shifted over to the Today show and the same woman that was behind her in both settings. People back there were having breakfast or whatever and seemed not to be paying attention to Hillary. Must be a lot of actors and actresses in Iowa that need work......

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John — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:51:33 GMT

Sign of things to come...

http://www.drudgereport.com/default.htm?sc=0.6813714977999088

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John — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:54:03 GMT

Sign of things to come...

http://www.drudgereport.com/default.htm?sc=0.6813714977999088

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Bob Trichett, NJ — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:01:23 GMT

>> “Securities and Exchange Commission documents and financial-
>> disclosure forms filed by Hillary Clinton show that Bill
>> Clinton, 61, has a financial stake in three investment entities
>> registered in the Cayman Islands

This is nothing new. The super rich of this country are just protecting their wealth with offshore accounts. With Clinton pulling down $500000 for each 30 minute speech he makes, taxes would eat a lot of that money up. Clinton has earned his money. Why is the government trying to take it from him?

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--NSMSNBC — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:03:39 GMT

"But despite this being John Edwards' country, Obama's message appears to be catching on."
--I find it interesting how the top three candidates have each found a niche. Perhaps I'm being too MacArthian ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_MacArthur

"Voters are readily saying they will support him as they leave the town halls. He's still attracting large crowds, and he often brings them to their feet for a standing ovation. Part of the reason could be that support has solidified"
--This is crunch time, Obama's time, because now is the time an inspirational message holds sway.

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Jesse, Burnsville, MN — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:12:18 GMT

I don't care about how much liberals supposedly love this Paul Krugman guy. As a Democrat, I am really starting to hate him. If he wants to support Hillary and her Republican values, then so be it. But, don't do it under the cover of being some liberal pundit, you loser.

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David Anders Pharr, Tx. — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:12:41 GMT

Bill couldnt run anythig except his hand up some lady skirt. Who would want this pervert even near the whitehouse. Have people forget the pardonds to criminals, drug dealers, and terrosists, above the objection of law enforcement for hundreds od thousands of dollars channeled to Hillarys brother, her Senate race, and his Library. This was sleaze politics at its best, and i see comments supporting them i want to throw up.

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TheQueenBee — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:42:25 GMT

Hillary has more experience on foreign policy in her pinky than Obama has in his entire body.

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Spud, Delmont, PA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:54:09 GMT

Actually, nothing Clinton did as President can compare to the atrocities and the wrecking of the economy that Bush/Cheney have committed over the last 7 years.
I'd take Bill over these criminals any day

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Hum — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:09:33 GMT

Did Barack Obama's indicted slumlord good friend Tony Rezeko help him purchase part of the property on which is million plus dollar house sits?

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Hum — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:12:27 GMT

Did Barak Obama help indicted slumlord Tony Rezeko get millions and millions of dollars in federal money to fix up slum tenant buildings in Chicago?

If the money was spent on the buildings why was there no heat and the tenants were freezing?

Federal money????

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Hum — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:15:19 GMT

The freezing people in slumlord Tony Rezeko's buildings were in Illinois Senator and community organizer Barack Obama's district.

Nothing was done to help.

When asked about it, Senator Obama says what he usually says, " No one told me about it."

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Hum — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:18:46 GMT

Barack Obama was out campaigning instead of in the U S Senate making his voice heard and voting on the Kyl Liberman nonbinding legislation.

When asked about his NON VOTE, he said, "No one told me about it'. Experienced Senators Biden, Dodd, & CLinton showed up and voted.

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Dante — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:53:14 GMT

Hillary has more experience on foreign policy in her pinky than Obama has in his entire body.
TheQueenBee (Sent Monday, December 17, 2007 10:42 AM)

Yet, she decided to vote for the war in Iraq and voted for the kyl-lieberman bill!!!

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TheQueenBee — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:08:19 GMT

Yet, she decided to vote for the war in Iraq and voted for the kyl-lieberman bill!!!
Dante (Sent Monday, December 17, 2007 11:53 AM)

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And she was right to vote for those bills too! I fully support the war in Iraq, and hope we get the job done in Iran. I hope we invade Iran and make them pay for what they did in 1979 regarding the hostage crisis! Go Hillary! Bomb Iran!

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Flop House forum — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:12:28 GMT

My, MY! How we love conjecture and deception! A convicted Liar stands for and supports more conjecture and bald face lies! Just where in hell does this self serving paper hanger sleep at night!

Americans are not all fools! The clinton agenda is again total deception. I'm disgusted seeing they again are allowed to be part of this election!!!

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Dot, Illinois — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:20:30 GMT

"(Anyone else noticed that as domestic issues have become more dominant on the campaign trail, the buzz for Richardson, Biden, and Dodd has started to die down? Those three candidates desperately needed this campaign to be about foreign policy from day one.) "

Is it possible that domestic issues have become more dominant because the media has made them so? Frankly, while American troops are still fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think the focus should be on foreign policy but since the surge appears to be helping the situation in Iraq, the press doesn't seem to want to talk about the wars. If they were to do more reporting on the situation in Afghanistan, which I think is deteriorating every day, then public attention would again be focused on foreign policy issues. My point, I guess, is that to a large degree, the media ( by playing up one story over another) is dictating what the dominant issues on any given day are.

The media focused for two solid weeks on the various minor spats and verbal sparring between the Clinton and Obama camps. Apparently, this is much more news- worthy than the fact that the Taliban is now in control of a large portion of southern Afghanistan.

I have yet to hear a very definitive statement of policy from any of the front runners with respect to Afghanistan--which is supposedly where Osama Bin Laden is hiding. To my mind, Afghanistan is the dominnant issue.

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livingintherealworld — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:31:47 GMT

I think one of the most cogent things Mr. Obama has said is that we, as a country, must learn to get beyond our nostalgia for the ethos of the 60s and 70s, because there are all too many people, age 40 and above, who are living in a time warp, and missing the fact that we are actually at the dawn of the 21st Century, which will probably be -- the Asian Century.

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Jeremy L — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:37:08 GMT

What negative things that you say about Hillary Clinton that people who have been taught to hate her have not already said.

It's OLD news, OLD stuff, already been said, BORING.
And besides it has ALl been checked, vetted by a $70 million dollar tax paid investigation by Ken Starr and Company. The Republicans tried with all their might to "get" Hillary and Bill. After all that money and years, the only thing they could find was to get Bill about lying about sex...and no other man has ever done that...HORRORS!

Hillary is the only Democratic candidate to fight back and come out stronger.

On the other hand the others and especially Barack Obama are FRESH MEAT.

There is already a nasty campaign against the others and especially Obama in the Republican attack machine just idling and waiting with a bunch of "good NEW stuff"...just waiting for the GO sign.

Then the big media will not be in the free pass protect mode it is now with Barack. His background has barely been checked, although he and Axelrod may have us think differently...Obama has no idea of the attacks to come.

Is Obama strong enough to still be standing when the attack dogs go after not only him and his background but also his wife and kids. I hear there's some good footage of Michelle and her comments that the swift boat attackers are slobbering over. Good stuff.

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 17:37:58 GMT

I'm not sure I agree that the buzz about Biden has died down. Even judging by the comments on First Read, particularly those from Iowa, he seems to be getting more support all the time.

The talking heads are always saying that the fighting between Obama and Hillary benefits Edwards. I think it also benefits Biden and the other candidates, as there are many people who are not at all interested in this silly back-and-forth that Obama and Clinton have had for months, and in which Edwards frequently intervenes. It presents an opportunity for the others to stay above the fray, and look presidential while the three front runners look like bickering children.

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Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:21:59 GMT

Corporate media still gunnin' for Bill Clinton's hide. They will even try to take down him wife in the process.

Run off and parse Michelle Obama's words. That would be a hoot. Listen to the embarassing stuff he mouths.

Fact is the Clinton campaign is hitting its stride in Iowa as its ground game grinds on day after day identifying supporters and working with them to get them to caucus.

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--NSMSNBC — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:41:39 GMT

Dot, Illinois--You might find this humorous, well, probably not, but interesting or at least in line with your running commentary.
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/iraq_war_no_longer_interesting
Still no word of Afghanistan.

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karlos — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:04:12 GMT

"it's the economy stupid" sound familiar? again i state the war is the economy, stupid! with a multi tril dollar projected cost over the next ten years and every demo candidate citing funds from leaving iraq as their cost coverage for their domestic plans if you don't eliminate iraq costs the economy fails! it's not just the cost of the war but the effect on gas prices and the flood down effect on retail and food caused by it! so having said that i appeal to those in iowa and NH primaries to consider joe biden as he's the only foreign affairs expert wih a iraq plan that's passed the senate. hill, obama, and edwards combined don't have biden's experience and that includes hill's white house residency and obama's schooling.biden's been right on iraq,iran.pakistan, and supported the troops with ied safe vehicles in a vote that had no extraction date for funding. he lost poll points to protect the troops the others bailed for the poll points!if they say it was a matter of principle please have them go to iraq and state that in front of the troops who needed the protection! i served a=nd i would have dared anyone denying me the necessities to protect myself to show up at my bunker and say so! vote for biden he had the courage of his convictions to vote in support of the troops stuck there, not the paper words of convience.

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karlos — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:17:29 GMT

domestic policy is not determined by the prestdent, its determined by the confress! the candidates can argue their minor differences of all that but bthe reality is all their positions on domestic issues are close and the final bill on any issue will be a composit of pretty much all of their input. no position held by any candidate will pass in original form it will be negociated in committee and compromised to reflect the majority in cngress. that's why a trifecta [house.senate.and pres.] win is imperative to pass demo agenda in 08'. when you choose a presidential candidate your focus should be foreign affairs, the president's domain and greatest sphere of influence. this is biden's strong point and setys him apart from pack and even they said so in first debates with chorus of "joe's right" on damn close to every issue of international affairs. the said it because he is right so that them at their words and elect joe biden.

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Dot, Illinis — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:34:36 GMT

NSMSNBC

Thank you for the link. I apologize if I sound like a broken record with respect to Afghanistan, but as Karlos points out in his post, so many domestic programs are lacking funds because of the high cost of the war. So, aside from the security side, and the cost of American lives, the war does effect us more than we realize. And, I can't help wondering what Bin Laden is up to--wouldn't all Americans feel safer if he was captured and brought to justice? We fought Al Qaeda in Afghanistan for a while, so then they exerted their influence in Iraq. So, we fought them in Iraq, and guess what? They are now stirring up trouble back in Afghanistan. The fact that the press doesn't talk about them, the candidates and voters don't want to think about them, does not mean that they no longer exist. My point is that they have not gone away--and won't go away. I hope I am wrong, but I think the next President will have to deal with them.

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Elizabeth Sullivan, San Diego, CA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:52:04 GMT

Queen Bee,

Unfortunately, Senator Clinton's foreign policy experience is ONLY in her pinky - the one she held up at all those tea parties oversees.

BIDEN '08

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Elizabeth Sullivan, San Diego, CA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 20:53:58 GMT

DOMENICO:

you wish.

BIDEN/OBAMA '08
Today, Tomorrow, Together

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jkojs, Des Moines, Iowa — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:32:54 GMT

NO more Clinton dynasty and corrupted Health Industry.

!!! VOTE FOR BARACK OBAMA !!!

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PulSamsara — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:48:49 GMT

Barack Obama for President.

It's time for America to Rise and Shine again.