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Jeff, Rathdrum ID — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:35:40 GMT

I'm a Obama supporter, but you no I like alot of what Ron Paul says, unfortanatly alot of what he says scares me too.I wish him luck though. But I have this to say no matter who wins this thing, if you look at the support of Ron Paul and Obama and to some extint Edwards and maybe even Huckabee (I haven't really followed him), I hope it tells the politications in Washington people are sick of politics as usual!!!

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:36:05 GMT

I wonder how much time Paul has spent in Iowa. Everyday in the local Cedar Rapids paper, they track the candidates who are going to be in the eastern Iowa. I noticed Ron Paul today, and it occurred to me that I don't think I have seen his name very much at all.

Face time is very important in Iowa. I hope Ron Paul remembers that when he is paying for his radio and TV ads.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:37:55 GMT

Paul wouldn't have a candidacy if it wasn't for Alex Jones. Alex Jones makes Michael Moore look like Dick Cheney. He's out there....way out there.

I wonder what would happen if the Ron Paulers actually thought about what would happen if we abolished the federal education funding.

Ron Paul seems half as crazy as the other GOP candidates, that still means he's 50% crazy.

Sure he doesn't support the war, but his platforms are nutty and he is the GOPs mirror image of Dennis Kucinich.

Every now and again a few good points, but come on the guy believes in aliens. (not saying this is a quality argument, however, it's an argument that will not lose with the majority of American voters, it's neither Paul nor Kucinich's fault, but rather a sign of the times).

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Mike, Hermosa Beach, CA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 21:43:23 GMT

Dr. Paul, the establishment anathema, is irrefutably rising...

http://truthalert.net/Republican%20Presidential%20Candidate%20Rankings.htm

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PEARL ELLIOTT,ELIZABETHTOWN,KY. — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:04:16 GMT

WELL I KIND OF LIKE HIM, HAVEN"T STUDIED HIS PLATFORM YET THO BUT I WILL, IF HILLARY DON'T GET IT I WILL CHANGE MY TICKET

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Bruce, NV — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:12:06 GMT

Is truthalert a 911 troofer site, mike?

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Gerrit Blok — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:14:52 GMT

From the above comments it is clear they don't understand what Dr. Ron Paul stands for. This is because the main stream media (owned by "big money") don't report on Dr. Ron Paul's issues. To form a real balanced opinion please go to lewrockwell.com and ronpaulforpresident2008.com. Dr. Ron Paul is the only candidate that makes perfect sence my friends, just give your self some time to study him and you will be part of the Revolution, just like millions of fellow Americans. After your study nobody will call a candidate that support the United States Constitution crazy.

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John, Oklahoma City — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:16:26 GMT

"I wonder what would happen if the Ron Paulers actually thought about what would happen if we abolished the federal education funding."

Kids would actually know how to read and do math without a calculator?

The only thing federal funds do is create a self feeding monster of paperwork and useless jobs.

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Michael Ross — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:28:58 GMT

Anybody in the know who actually cares about this country and has heard what Dr. Paul has to say, seems to instantly jump on the bandwagon. When 3 veterans of the Iraq war cornered me about the issues and showed me Dr. Paul, i was hooked in an instant. This man is a blessing to this nation. Thank God for Dr. Ron Paul, future president!

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Tom Murphy, Washington, DC — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:32:40 GMT

Want hemp grown by farmers here in the U.S.?

Ask your U.S. Representative in Congress to cosponsor HR 1009:

http://www.votehemp.com/write

Thanks,

Tom

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:34:07 GMT

Dr. Paul is a gyno, but it sounds scientific though.
What a joke, abolish federal funding for schools...
GAME OVER
abolish federal funding for schools...
say that you want to do this to anyone besides a Paul nut and see what they say to you. They'll tell you to take a flying leap.

Do you believe that this should happen Mike, from Hermosa Beach?
I can't even register the level of contempt and condescension that I feel is necessary when talking with you idiots.

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E.G. — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:34:48 GMT

I hope more people learn about Dr. Ron Paul. I miss having my civil liberties and I am disgusted with the way our Bill of Rights has been violated. Amendments 4,5,9,and 10 have all been violated and that is just off the top of my head. Ron Paul has a deep understanding about our economic crisis, foreign relations, and our constitution. His voting record is the most consistant against over taxation and over government spending. People that want to learn about our constitution and state sovereignty should seriously investigate for themselves and not rely on others to do their research for them.

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Larry White — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:36:51 GMT

As a meetup organizer for Ron Paul I can tell you firsthand the support does not come from any one place, that's what makes it so great.

We have disenfranchised Taft/Goldwater conservatives who voted for Bush and feel they were duped

Disenfranchised Democrats who are tired of being lied to about stopping the war

Disenfranchised independents who chose a candidate, not a party.

I think we have a couple truthers, although they never bring it up at any events.

Before Ron Paul, get all of these people in a room discussing politics, they'd be at each others throats. By themselves, we are each 5 to 10% at best. But together, we can do anything.

The revolution is real.

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Michael, Arlington, VA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:44:39 GMT

@Desperate

Nutty? Only if the Constitution is nutty.

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Richard in Idaho — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:45:54 GMT

Look, Paul is a realist. He has said on many occasions that he would not abolish those entitlement programs that people have become reliant upon. Additionally, since he believes in the Constitution (unlike many seeking the high office) he would need approval of Congress to make any sweeping change.

I find his ideas refreshing and if just some would rub off to re-instate our civil liberties, reduce the government, and stop policing the world, I'd be happy.

I predict Paul supporters will be those in the majority to brave the cold and vote in the many Primaries. Be prepared to be surprised!

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Richard in Idaho — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:48:26 GMT

Michael Moore meet Dick Cheney? Left nut, meet right nut.

That's the whole problem. Who represents those in between.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:52:15 GMT

The numbers are impressive, I have to admit. I never thought he'd do this well.

Desperate - what exactly would happen if we abolished federal education spending? Sure, I do realize that some things, particularly those affecting the less affluent areas, would not work as well. And I'm not advocating pulling money away from these school districts. But if that were to happen, what really do you think would be the impact?

I'm guessing not as much as your post would seem to suggest. The vast majority of school funding comes from local property taxes, and in most states the next biggest pot comes from state funds.

In all honesty, I'll bet the recent drop in housing values will cost school districts more than the entire federal contribution. And we all know that federal spending, while necessary for some 'balancing the playing field' programs, is pretty innefficient in terms of bang for the buck.

I also know that schools in most districts are pretty innefficient as well. I took a look at this in my school district about a year ago. I knew the ratio of teachers to students was 1:24 or so, and I don't begrudge teachers the salaries they make (higher here than the national average). But I wanted to see what else they spend money on.

To my surprise, teachers were swamped by administrators. The ratio there is something like an administrator for every six students. And outside of new school construction, salaries were the bulk of our budget.

I have a hard time believing so many administrators are needed. I suspect a lot of them were hired because the schools were flooded with money in the last decade and a half. Our property values during this time tripled, and 57 percent of our property taxes go to schools. The school district suddenly found itself in a position which we should never leave any government employee - with more money than they were expecting or knew what to do with.

They haven't saved a dime of all that extra money, still sent kids out door to door selling fundraisers, and presumably came up with all sorts of new ideas that required new administrators to implement. Now, of course, we've got a big budgetary proplem looming.

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David, Minneapolis, MN — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:39 GMT

It doesnt take much to realize the main stream media doesnt care for Paul. Just look at the list to your right. Hardly anyone hears about him in a positive light either, it's always something negative. He is not part of the good ol' boys club. If your mind isn't made up, really research him with an open mind. Some of his ideas look impossible, but if you listen to the whole message it all makes sense.

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Rich, Vidalia, GA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:55:56 GMT

The thing about Ron Paul is you don't get half measures, because the man has principles.

Opposed to the war? Paul would pull the troops out. Support Government aid for wounded veterans? Oh dear.

Want drugs legalized? Paul wants that too. Want emergency Medicaid when you O-D? Oh dear.

And so on. Abolish the Income Tax? Sure, says Paul on sound libertarian grounds. Unionized workforces? Unemployment Benefits? Not so sure, on equally sound libertarian grounds.

Ron Paul tends to sound good to people who aren't listening properly to what he's telling them. People who hear and understand Ron Paul and still approve are anarchists, at least in the short term. It's a sad commentary but for Ron Paul's strict constitutionalism to be restored, we need a second revolution.

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Dale Peterson, Omaha Nebraska — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:58:24 GMT

I think people need to listen to all of what he say's...A 72 year old man that you say is out there...Most of you won't live that long if something isn't done with our Government.

He's old enough to remember the stuggles of, and live through the Depression days, World War II, Korea, and Vietnam. He has been in the house for 32 years as a Congressman,(someone thinks he's right or they wouldn't have voted him into Congress so many times).

The path we are on will fail, It has been set up to fail) he knows that and so do you, and it dosn't take a hit from a Chinnese rifle, for me to know that.

We have been set up for the fall and won't except the truth. He dosn't have any reason to want to be President other than to protect Constitiution for you and me, can you say that about any of the other Canidates?

The primary is the most important part of the election....It allows us to have somewhat of a say on who is going to run in the General Election.
If it's not Ron Paul, you will be voting once again for the better of two worse in the General Election...AND NOTHING WILL CHANCE...They are counting on it.

They are stacking the deck and your not even smart enough to see that...
Why else would a 72 year old Statesman put himself through this meat grinder.

A Vote for anyone else is a waisted Vote....
Semper Fidelis

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:59:18 GMT

A Kucinich/Paul ticket might be good for America. I have a feeling, eight years from now, no matter which other Bozos get elected from either party, we'll look back on that ticket, and wish it would have happened. Space Invaders or not. Just an Independent observation.

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John, New York — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:05:44 GMT

Ron Paul is the only candidate capable of defeating the Democrats this election. Issues that affect the American People are important, but unfortunately, the only Republican coverage allowed on here are Neo-Cons like Huckabee (pro-illegal immigration), Rudy (anti-gun, pro-abortion, pro North American Union) and McCain (who has NO MONEY LEFT)

Of course they won't talk about Ron Paul, he's against corporate corruption: as opposed to Rudy, who is the son of a mob boss for crying out loud.

Google Ron Paul. Learn the truth. www.ronpaul2008.com

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Bill, Paramus, NJ — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:11:01 GMT

LOL Federal funding for school, RP isn't abolishing it. I see msnbc has their paid bloggers out.. Desperate, Overland Park KS LOL nice name.

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Bill, Paramus, NJ — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:13:30 GMT

Desperate, Overland Park KS is a PAID MSNBC blogger fyi... just go to Ron Paul's website to view his viewpoints.

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Jack, Seattle, WA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:17:30 GMT

Come primary time - Ron Paul supporters will be out in massive numbers!
http://www.thisfebruaryfifth.com

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sean thomas patrick,garden city ny — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:18:46 GMT

no child left behind is ruining the kids in this country.The fed gov should not be allowed in the classroom.The kids are being taught to take a test.thats it.I asked a few teachers in the city about this,and they say Ron Paul is right.every semester they have a few kids out of a hundred that are doing poorly.they might show signs of a problem.the teachers are told not to report it and the kid falls through the cracks.they wont report it becouse they need their stats to look good.if the stats dont look good no federal funding! free the public school system. we arent even in the top 20 around the world.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:19:10 GMT

The constitution if you've ever read it allows for the government to create federal programs for the good of the public.

I truly doubt that you Paulers have read the constitution the way that you speak about it. It's as if Paul has caught on to an interpretation of it that sooths you morons.

You poor peons really do need something to believe in...
the revolution this...
the revolution that...
A political campaign does not a revolution make...are you all aged out hippies or something.
Revolutions consist of people in the streets, speaking truth to power, occupying buildings, and taking back their country with force if necessary.
You all are whiners. I've talked to friends of mine who are Paulers. Your all conspiracy nuts.
I don't doubt your knowledge so much as I doubt your motivation. You whine and whine and whine, but in the end you will lose and you will do nothing about it. You are exactly like the hippies.
The Ron Paul hippies...the Rippies...the Pippies
I can't come up with a good name, but come on guys, Alex Jones is the only thing keeping Paul's candidacy alive.
If Paul had to disavow the truthers we could get back to business as usual, and the truthers with all of their facts (which hey I'm willing to listen to) will go back beneath the bridge like the trolls they are.

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Dan Kren, Raleigh, NC — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:22:46 GMT

I can't see him winning, but at least he is making the race interesting. It would be nice to see a non-establishment candidate make it for once, as long as they have good ideas.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:23:35 GMT

Michael from Arlington,

Tell me where in the Constitution it says that we cannot fund federal education or health care for that matter.

I'll help you, you won't find it because it's not there the founding fathers and Adam Smith (creator of capitalism) noted that government programs would be necessary in instances where the free market failed or was uninterested in delivering services.

CAN ANY OF YOU READ?

Sure Paul is right about the war, torture, and the patriot act, but so are all of the Democratic candidates who maintain the same position as him.

The difference between the Dems and Paul...
Dems believe that we should have federal programs like FEMA, FBI, CIA, and yes our Federal Education system. Paul does not believe that we need these things. That would make him crazy. The constitution is far from nutty.

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TEC-Spring -TX — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:24:30 GMT

Does not matter for what reason, he is raising money and we know money talks in washington. He has raised more than alot of the so called contenders and that will eventually lead to politicans adopting some of his stands on issues. That is how they get elected, by supporting issues that people will pay money to support. A change is in the wind, I just wonder how long and hard it will blow. This comment is not an meant to promote Ron Paul, but a general observation.

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D.B., Portland, OR — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:26:08 GMT

For those who are afraid of losing what the federal government provides through the dept of education, remember that states, not the fed, pay the majority of the public school's expenses (including universities). Shrinking the size of the federal government will mean less money will be sent to washington to be wasted. More money will remain in your state and can be used to fund those schools.

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Wayne, Phoenix, Arizona — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:26:26 GMT

"I wonder what would happen if the Ron Paulers actually thought about what would happen if we abolished the federal education funding."

Desparate - you are a wack job and uneducated. Ronald Reagan proposed abolishing fed education funding along with other worthless federal programs and he was very popular. Any loser politician can push for more spending programs in an attempt to buy votes. Does that impress you?

So what would happen if fed education funding was cut off? The vast majority of education funding comes at the state and local level. Cutting federal funds would only cost some bureaucrats their jobs. You would understand this is you were a taxpayer, employed, and marginally educated.

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Terry — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:26:39 GMT

Paul on education:

The federal government does not own our children. Yet we act as if it does by letting it decide when, how, and what our children will learn. We have turned their futures over to lobbyists and bureaucrats.

I support giving educational control back to parents, who know their children better than any politician in D.C. ever will.

The federal government has no constitutional authority to fund or control schools. I want to abolish the unconstitutional, wasteful Department of Education and return its functions to the states. By removing the federal subsidies that inflate costs, schools can be funded by local taxes, and parents and teachers can directly decide how best to allocate the resources.

To help parents with the costs of schooling, I have introduced H.R. 1056, the Family Education Freedom Act, in Congress. This bill would allow parents a tax credit of up to $5,000 (adjustable after 2007 for inflation) per student per year for the cost of attendance at an elementary and/or secondary school. This includes private, parochial, religious, and home schools.

Another bill I have sponsored, H.R. 1059, allows full-time elementary and secondary teachers a $3,000 yearly tax credit, thus easing their financial burden and encouraging good teachers to stay in an underpaid profession.

Many parents have already shown their desire to be free of federal control by either enrolling their children in private schools or homeschooling them. And students enrolled in these alternatives have consistently performed better and tested higher than those in state-run schools.

Years of centralized education have produced nothing but failure and frustrated parents. We can resurrect our public school system if we follow the Constitution and end the federal education monopoly.

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Mike, San Antonio, Texas — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:26:54 GMT

Desperate. Think about what you are saying for a minute. The school system is funded by your property taxes. The school is funded at the LOCAL level. Therefore we believe that the school should be responsible to the community and the parents who are funding the school. There is no need for a federal bureacracy to suck up funds that could otherwise go to actually educating students. Since the federal government became involved with the schools in the 50's, the quality of education has done nothing but go down while the cost continues to climb. Get the Feds out of the way of our education system. They don't add any value to it.

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Tim, Bowie, MD — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:27:43 GMT

those that wish to grow hemp only do so in the hopes to smoke marijuana. no one cares about any other use for hemp. i would love to get rid of our public school system so that our children could get access to a better education but what difference would it make if everyone was smoking marijuana. we would still end up surrounded by stupid idiots, but worse. pot heads always stink.

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Laurie C, Sacramento, CA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:29:49 GMT

My brother in Washington State is the one who first told me about Ron Paul. When I went to the website he directed me to, I was floored! I am looking forward to the word getting out in California. So many do not know who he is and what he stands for. One thing is for certain...we need someone who stands for us and our rights.

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Laurie C, Sacramento, CA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:30:48 GMT

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Mike, Hermosa Beach, CA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:33:01 GMT

"Bruce, NV" asks "Is truthalert a 911 troofer site...?"

"911 troofer"? The Truth Alert site is encapsulated here...

http://truthalert.net/Mission.htm

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:38:57 GMT

Thank you Rich from Vidalia. A voice of reason among the Paul crazies.

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Mike, Hermosa Beach, CA — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:39:39 GMT

"Desperate, Overland Park KS", my view on Federal involvement in education...

http://truthalert.net/Green%20Libertarian%20Nationalism.htm#_Toc183353739

By the way, ease up, buddy.

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Eric Nelson, Blair, NE — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:40:59 GMT

The ingnorance of some here is astonishing! Where do you suppose federal funding comes from?

Eliminating federal funding for education just means that instead of sending all of our money to Washington to be doled out by central planners the money would stay in the states where it was earned.

It's the fed's way of controlling things - do this or do that or we withhold funding for this or that.

You need to understand this before going around championing federal spending.

That some people can form such strong opinions without even a cursory understanding of the issues is disconcerting to say the least.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:41:55 GMT

I'm not a paid blogger, though I appreciate the thought. Do you know someone at MSNBC that I could talk to about that?

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Jon, Clearwater Beach, FL — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:43:39 GMT

@desperate
If you give $1 to the State education dept. instead of the DOE, then the DOE giving 50 cents to the State education dept., you might find a little better public educational system.

Oh, and please try not to be so angry...

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Rick E. Huntingdon Valley, PA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:01:13 GMT

If you consider yourself a real American who believes in the constitution, Ron Paul is the only candidate that you can consider.

If you understand that Government spending warps the economy into producing the things the government wants, and that you of your own free will can best decide where you want to put your own money, then you should understand that freedom means less government interference in your lives.

If you don't think that this is important consider that you are a citizen in a country that is bankrupt, and in serious economic decline- as a direct result of the government's policies.

America goes further into debt everyday. America exports less to the rest of the world everyday. Our trading partners subsidize their economies at the expense of the US, and not one politician in power does anything about it!

Ron Paul is the only candidate in either party that will give the US a chance at a decent future.

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Richard Dulee — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:05:00 GMT

Abolish the Dept of Education . . . well consider this the Federal government provides for less than 10% of my state's education budget yet it DICTATES policy thru the mislabelled "No Child Left Behind". Utah actually told the Dept of Ed to keep its money and has opted out of NCLB for local control of public schools. The Federal Dept of Education is about contolling the education agenda, not about improving services to children. I'm an educator and I can tell you we would never miss it. We'd do a better job locally than they can do from Washington DC.

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Bob Miller, Little Rock, AR — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:07:29 GMT

You silly chickens... whatever the Federal government stops doing, whether its the funding of this or that, the responsibility will simply fall to the States to take up the slack. The important difference is, the States will be more efficient managers of local issues than a singular federal bureaucracy. If Ron Paul eliminates the IRS, how much frickin health insurance, tuition, and other goodies will you be able to afford? ALOT MORE.

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Rob Schroeder Ukiah, Ca. — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:10:14 GMT

Hey "Desparate"? Between your flamings and your slanderous lies about tin foil hats and conspiracy nuts being Ron Pauls base, you're really winning me over, NOT! All of that asside NAME ONE Democratic hopoeful that is willing to pull out of Iraq 8:00AM day one? I'm waitng...
BTW who is Alex Jones?

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Larry White Elkview, WV — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:11:03 GMT

Alex Jones has never seen $6 million dollars, much less raise it for a presidential candidate.

The entire 911 truth movement couldn't raise $6 million dollars in the 6 years since 2001.

It's everyday people who are sick and tired of the corruption that exists in our government, whether that be in perpetual war or perpetual taxation.

The government is not here to take care of us like many Democrats believe.

The government is not here to protect us like many Republicans believe.

The federal government does nothing efficiently or effectively.

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Johnaa — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:12:27 GMT

Desperate, you're over your head. The Constitutionof this Nation created a Federalist system, States can finance schools much better than the federal government, that was the way it was done until the less than a century ago. Think, it's obvious if you have actually read the contitution and the words of the men who created the Constitution of the United States. Read before you demonstrate your ignorance

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Lance Wheeler, Saint Albans, WV — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:13:04 GMT

Ron Paul is our only hope for America and people are waking up and realizing this. Our Forefathers warned us about tangled alliances and big government and look what we are doing. You want the next great president? Vote Ron Paul.

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justin salt lake city, ut — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:13:14 GMT

check it out desperate.. if the constitution doesnt say that we CAN fund education.. then guess what it was left for the states to decided what to do with it... amazing.. never knew the constitution had to say we cant do that... you know the constitution doesnt say murder is illegal... does that mean we can do it? your silly take you blinders off... oh yeah im pretty sure capatalism was an idea long before adam smith and his trading company came about..

read what our founding fathers had to say about letting a private bank control our money and how it would destroy us.

YOU SHOULD NEVER TRADE LIBERTY FOR SAFETY, IF YOU DO YOU DESERVE NEITHER AND WILL LOSE BOTH!

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Jennifer Paton, Spokane, Washington — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:14:42 GMT

Oh great...between the opium poppy growers, that just so happen to be from muslim founding and supporting countries, to the eutopian liberals that have been up in so called "intellectual smoke" for years, this country is headed for trouble. But hey.....pot smokers are harmless.Right? And of course Obama doesn't condone the selling of harder drugs that would make America stoned and stupid. Don't get me wrong. I'm sure supporters of harder drugs will be quite happy in ways while the rest of us deal with reality.

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John Doe, The Peanut Gallery — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:24:49 GMT

Paul gets alot of respect from me in that I am pretty sure he's never called anyone a traitor or a terrorist because they disagree with him. He's still wrong about pretty much everything though.

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Matt Becker, East Bay, Ca — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:25:22 GMT

RP is the FIRST presidential candidate that I am voting for (as opposed to voting against 'the other guy'). While I doubt that he will win, I would like to point out one big reason why: the media ignores him. Even Faux News has not put up a story about his RECORD fundraising haul. On the other hand... a candidate that can pull in more than $6M in 24 hours without any campaign involvement in the fundraising and who gets consistently shafted by the media... Perhaps we are looking at a CA Prop 13 type scenario - all the big wigs say no, but get spanked by "We the people" who say YES for the Dr. NO rEVOLution!!!

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Tom Tancredo, Klan, Rally — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:25:30 GMT

Tancredo will kills all dem mecksicans,WOOOOHOOOOO!
www.essembly.com

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Nik; Anchorage, Alaska — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:27:00 GMT

Why was it that we need the FBI, or the CIA? Are the commies going to get us if we are unable to root out their spies? Will we be unable to spot countries that are creating Weapons of Mass Destruction? Because any nuclear programs will create weapons, nuclear weapons will always be aimed at America if they get built... right? Huh? Is that not what the United Nations is supposed to be doing anyway?

What part of Paul's message is so terrible? If America were not so dependent on federal funds in education (like the gentleman in VA) would that not be a place that Paul might look to ease spending instead of outright cutting it? Congress is still there to help the future president to make the cuts that we need.

Desperate needs desperately to ease off the ad-hominems and red herrings, for logical fallacies should not be part of the political. It is mudslinging to call all the Paulers conspiracy crazys and truthers. Whatever. Any statement that condemns all of a group is highly likely to be aimed at inciting sentiment that obscures the real issues. It is the nature of such Gorgias-ly sophistic sidelines.

It would be refreshing to have less money spent on Federal programs (like the much maligned Wars in the East). It would be nice if states could decide if Medical Marijuana was alright in there state (i.e. no more DEA raids on medical marijuana facilities). It would be nice if we could spend more money at the state levels where it is easier to create effective policies for a smaller area. What works for CA is not necessary in AK, so a relaxation of federal programs and taxation would aid constituents to better tailor the programs that they need....

Why not legalize drugs and use the money built from the taxation to do something other than fund bombing runs or over administrate education? I hope people like desperate stay desperate, and Paul changes some things that have grown out of control for many years.

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George, Reno, Nevada — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:31:34 GMT

Desperate,

Your comment:

"Tell me where in the Constitution it says that we cannot fund federal education or health care for that matter."

Shows that you do not understand the Constitution. It was not created to tell us what the feds cannot do. It was created to limit them to the few things which they may do (and education is not one of them).

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Troy Jones, Lander, WY — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:31:42 GMT

Desperate,
The 10th amendment to the U.S.Constitution states that the Federal Government is allowed to do only those things that the Constitution says it can, the rest is left to the States. So, if the Constitution does not specifically say that the Federal Government can be involved in education, healthcare, etc, then those things are State matters and the Feds are to "keep out". Our forefathers intentionally designed it this way because they knew that unless government is held in check, it will eventually destroy our freedoms (which it has been doing).

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Mike, Loma Linda, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:32:16 GMT

I support Dr. Paul because it would seem that he is the only candidate that understands economics, the monetary system, foreign policy and the federal government's role in relation to these things. I certainly haven't heard any of the other candidates talk in depth and intelligently on any of these subjects. But I'd be happy to be proved wrong because unfortunately I don't think Paul will be able to make it past the primaries.

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Jim — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:32:49 GMT

Ron Paul is this years , " I don't give a darn about politics " candidate. Let's all humor him and throw him a $ 5.00 bone in protest . Who knows , maybe the dog , has some bite . Was that Ross Perrault or Will Ferrell giving him some advice last week ? Just keep the jokes coming .

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Rob — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:36:20 GMT

"I wonder what would happen if the Ron Paulers actually thought about what would happen if we abolished the federal education funding."
Control of education would be returned to parents and communities, where it belongs!!!!
Ron Paul for President!!!!

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Whatever. — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:40:15 GMT

To Desperate,

You're missing the point. Tell me where in the Constitution does it state that the Federal Government CAN fund federal education.

The federal goverment is granted enumerated powers in the Constitution. In otherwords, if the Constitution does not grant explicit power to the federal government in certain areas, it cannot act. At all.

At least learn how about federalism works.

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TRH — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:40:38 GMT

It seems as though the people who don't care for Ron Paul are simply so far into the Government take care of us mentality that they have completely lost the idea of being free thinking, responsible, and self reliant individuals. What a pity, that is truly the American dream . . . to be free to try on our own. I would imagine that if Edison had to comply with all the litigation and regulations that we have in our country now that we would have never been able to enjoy the light bulb!!! Your giving it all away and its as though you are rooting for a football team instead of a philosophical ideal that 'used to be America'!!!

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Amanda, Seattle, WA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:41:12 GMT

The difference between Democrats and Republicans has been marginalized by money and power (war and oil, etc). None of the Democrats running or in Congress, nor the Republicans running or in Congress are honest or ethical. Ron Paul is a man of principal and truth. If you cannot vote with your own mind, you should not even vote.

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John — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:44:49 GMT

The tenth ammendment, Desperate.

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D. Nuciforo, Palm Springs, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:45:48 GMT

I think everyone in this country and the world should open their eyes and educate themselves as to what is really going on in this country, the world for that matter. We all better hope that Ron Paul wins this upcoming election. If not, we are truly doomed. It's called End Game! Have you seen it? Better open your eyes America and take notice. Population reduction (Chemtrails), Existing Jail camps (operational in Texas). Does any of this sound similar to good old Mr. Hitler? Ron Paul is the only Candidate that can and will restore our great nation. Too many Americans have deft ears and blind eyes to what's really happening. There are more of us then there are the Bilderbergs, etc., that run this entire planet. There's force in numbers. We can turn all of this around if we elect the proper politicians into office and get rid of the Central Banks of the world, etc. America, OPEN YOUR EYES and do the right thing. Ron Paul for President 2008!

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F Davis Jemison Al. — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:46:27 GMT

Americans had better wake up Ron Paul is a career politician ! please ! but atleast he is talking about change.And America needs a change from corp,america bought pola ticks sucking the life out of AMERICA.If Ron Paul is able to and does half of what he says he will then it will be a shot in the arm for us all that may imunize us from an over powered Gov. thats out of control.Thats right out of our control we the people,you know a gov,of the people by the people for the people.Not a gov of the corp america,for corp america.We need America back for those who love her,and have fought to defend her and some of the youngsters commenting here who never have and most likely never would!Do something to take her back or loose her forever!Ron Paul may just open the door for American to bring her back to what she was meant to be And that is the land of the free!Not the land of the taxed to death and sold to the highist bidder!

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Richard, Portland Oregon — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:47:10 GMT

Michael from Arlington

>> Tell me where in the Constitution it says that
>> we cannot fund federal education or health care
>> for that matter.

Tell me where in the constitution it says that the Federal Government CAN fund education or health care. Wasn't the only pressing reason for the Fed to exist, to build an army to oppose the Brits? Anything else was never meant to exist.

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Troy Jones Lander, WY — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:50:24 GMT

I have voted in all elections I could for the past 35 years. I have never been excited about any candidate that I've ever voted for---they're all a bunch of Politicians. I've never seen a true Statesman run for office. It hasn't mattered who gets into office, they all do the same thing---raise taxes and/or increase spending, drive-up the deficit, increase government intrusion into our lives, police the world, etc. Ron Paul has cured my apathy. He is a true Statesman and I'm excited about the "change of course" should he be elected. A win for Ron Paul is NOT a win for Democrats, and is NOT a win for Republicans; but a win for Ron Paul IS a win for America!!

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RONPAUL 08 IOWA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:51:49 GMT

Desperate, Overland Park KS

the Federal Government is not to create all these federal programs that undermine the STATES and limit our liberties and not protect the Sovereignty of the country and the borders. Eliminate the Department of Education, yes, look at the decline of education in this country, and please do not be blind about it. the Federal government does a great job of messing things up when they try to control everything UNCONSTITUTIONALLY.

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Scott, Los Angeles — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:53:39 GMT

I think Ron Paul is the first man I can remember that is prinicpled and really wants to change the failed policies that are destroying this country. Our country is within 5 years of a financial collapse under current spending and debt exposure. There will be no more America and we will go the way of the Roman Empire if we do not radically change our way of life. Join the Revolution! Vote Ron Paul.

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Eugene McGuinness — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:53:59 GMT

If Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich would run on the same ticket they would beat any other contenders hands down. They both have the support of the young people in this country. If a ticket can get all the young people out to vote as well as raise funds they'd be unstoppable. These two candidates differ on alot of topics but agree on the most important issues affecting us and the world (they differ on most subjects with their respective parties as well). If they ran together and found common ground in the areas they differ, instead of holding firm in those areas, they would be elected and they could do so much good for this country and the world. Check out their voting records on key legislations - they are nearly always together and sometimes the only two that vote against wasteful legislation. The corporate media is trying to paint them both as nuts (we know who owns the media) so they will be unelectable but the power of the internet is unstoppable and young people everywhere are talking about these two men of integrity. Let's make this election change the course of our country set by all the previous corrupt leaders, vote for Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich (if they do well but don't end up representing their parties) we will persuade them to run together as independents and the nation and the world will see them freely debate the issues against the other candidates.

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RONPAUL 08 IOWA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:54:13 GMT

Oh yeah Desperate, Overland Park KS

It shows the politcal mentality when you call Ron Paul supporters Idiots etc..... Crazy? You mean the rest of the Republicans and all the Democrats, well then, yes they are Crazy and working together to destroy the USA. Ron Paul is the person to make the USA stronger. I hope you wake up and see the truth.

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Paule67, Illinois — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 00:58:27 GMT

RE: Desperate in KS. Talk about a hater. I am a independent non hippie. Ron Paul may not be the establishment candidate but he or the movement isnt going anywhere. The money is now there. And the internet has taking the decision making away from the media and given it to the people. Now will the turn out to vote.....I hope so.

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Jeff, Westerville, Ohio — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:02:24 GMT

All those scared about the GOALS of eventually getting rid of Federal Programs in favor State run ones. Remember, we have a Congress, these things don't happen overnight. The ridiculous scare tactics are a joke.

Watch this: Drew Ivers, Iowa Chairman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wo7G6j6bi4

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Cal, Chico, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:02:34 GMT

Ron Paul supporters must be smoking all that hemp if they actually believe he can win ANY primary. He is the Dennis Kucinich of the GOP. Kinda wacky and entertaining but with no serious potential.

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F.Davis Jemison AL. — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:03:44 GMT

Desperate you are just that!Desperate for attention or real info. Im not sure witch one you need but in an atempt to be nonjudgemental just take a look for yourself!The path were on does not work For you for me for America!We need a more people focused gov.not more liberal corp,america gov. Lets try something new and if it doesent work we can try something else new.And maybe we will be fortunate and find something truly great like OUR country use to be.So get you head or wallet out of your ass and take a real look at Ron Paul befor you spout off about someone based on propaganda or what you were payed to say by MSNBC

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Jeff, Westerville, Ohio — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:05:27 GMT

Desperate,

You need to do more research. All the Dems voted FOR the Iraq war, and FOR the Patriot Act, and FOR the Military Commission Act, and I haven't heard any of the top 3 condemn Torture.

None of them could even say they would have the troops out by 2013. Doesn't sound very against the war to me.

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Dustin Wefel, Mount Morris, MI — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:06:26 GMT

The two-party primary system will doom Paul. The Libertarian Party is split between the Dem, Rep, and Independents. All Paul supporters would have to switch their registration to Rep to give R. Paul half a chance.

Desperate: You talk of Alex Jones as he is a everyday name, obviously that is your goal to do that in an attempt to discredit Paul. Are you afraid of the status quo being no longer in effect as the major corp. and media outlets prefer which maintains their position of power in this country. Do you realize that when companies are more powerful thatn countries national borders tend to disapear. Be careful for what you wish for. And in regard to the Alex Jones statementt hat is not the case, R. Paul's supporter with the most notoriety is Drew Carey, now the host of the Price is Right. If he were to unfluence that very famous show's fan base, he could have the same effect that Oprah is having on Obama. The extemism you are accusing Mr. Paul is misleading in the case already mentioned in this blog that he would be bound by congress as other elected Libertarians nationwide are. Attempting to mislead the young, internet savy voting bloc will only backfire

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash. — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:06:38 GMT

Why does MSNBC accurately report the $6 million raised online, but continues to say that it was $5.2 million on the TV crawler?

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BTS, Newark, DE — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:08:07 GMT

Why does MSNBC accurately report that Ron Paul raised $6 million online, but continue to show a TV crawler that it was $5.2 million?

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F.Davis Jemison,Al — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:13:36 GMT

Desperate has had his comments posted 4 times on here thats 2 times more than anyone else.does this not seem suspect to anyone. I have made 3 comments myself and not 1 has been posted MSNBC !!

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Chad Gailey, Anchorage, AK — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:13:46 GMT

The issue with education is the same as any FEDERAL centralization issue. When you rely upon the FEDERAL government to run things, you are going to waste a LOT of money, and the quality of whatever it is you are trying to get decreases drastically. It also drives up the cost of said service. When you look at all of the Federal beauracracies we have today, and look at how much money goes in, then compare the product to privately, or locally run services, you will see the inefficiencies. When you centralize, you sacrifice quality and you get less for your dollar. Paul wants to shrink government, let people keep their money, and let the local government handle itself.

Before you criticize, I suggest you learn what Dr. Paul's stance on these issues really is; you will realize that he is a REALIST, not some kook who thinks he can shut off these programs like a light switch. It will take time, and moreover, it will take a change in out entitlement mentality, for any real change to occur.

Do you like paying income taxes?

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Chris, Ambler, PA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:25:12 GMT

Desperate, Overland Park KS:

How about the 10th amendment:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

For too long all three branches of our Federal government have conveniently ignored and dismissed this amendment as they have increase it’s power over the states (and thus more power/money for themselves.)

You may also want to read The Federalist Papers No. 45.

His a little snippet for you:
“The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation, and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected. The powers reserved to the several States will extend to all the objects which, in the ordinary course of affairs, concern the lives, liberties, and properties of the people, and the internal order, improvement, and prosperity of the State.” - Madison

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Jason, Tallahassee, Florida — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:25:43 GMT

Desperate,

The US Constitution is not written in the way you suggest. Of course, it doesn't say we can't have federalized healthcare or education but it also doesn't say we can. The Constitution is a grant of limited power from the States to the Federal Government. Look at Article I Section 8 THE POWERS OF CONGRESS. It list out specifically what Congress has the power to do (such as to establish a post office and declare war). If Congress had the power to do anything more then the Constitution would not need to specifically list out the enumerated powers, it would simply state that Congress can do whatever it wants. It doesn't and the reason it doesn't is because they only have the limited set of powers granted to Congress by the Constitution.

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Jay, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:34:05 GMT

It makes no sense to have FEDERAL funding of education, it should be handled at the STATE (or local) level. That doesn't mean we shouldn't pay for it with public funds, of course! But federal funding means a big, messy, one-size-fits all program like No Child Left Behind. Instead, it makes sense to let the states handle their own education. This way, different states can try programs appropriate for them, and experiment, and if one state has a great education system, other states can copy it.

The schools will have as much money as before. Instead of paying more taxes to the federal government to dole out to the schools, you can pay taxes to your state or local governments, to give to the schools. This ought to result in more funding, since channeling your money through the federal government is inefficient.

The nuance of this discussion is often lost, unfortunately. People hear things like "drop federal funding of education" and think that RP supporters are against public education. In fact, they are for it, and would do it better than the current administration! The same concept carries over to many other aspects of government. And this is what the Constitution and the Founders intended: it's problematic to do things at the national level, so the states should be free to do what they want, unless it really needs to be done at the national level (for example, a national army).

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Jay, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:36:42 GMT

Desperate from KS, please let me know whether you are in favor of public education in general, or specifically of handling public education at the national level (like No Child Left Behind). I am of course in favor of public education, but I'm against federal control of it - there's no advantage and tons of disadvantages, NCLB being a great example. RP has the same view, but it can be hard to see it because the media often condense important points like this.

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Brian, San Jose, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:44:08 GMT

Desperate -- one more thing:

We Paulers have read the Consitution (and no, it isn't nutty). And we know how it is set up and why it was set up the way it did. It very clearly laid out the powers of the federal government. And, as the Tenth Amendment states: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited it by the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

This means that if the federal government can't do it it's up to the states. You show me where it says the federal government CAN be involved in things like education (not to mention marriage and abortion). What's good for some states aren't good for all of them. And the Founders didn't wanted the federal government involved as little as possible.

There is nothing remotely resembling federal jurisdiction in things like education, marriage and abortion. Therefore they are all state issues. And if some states want to do things that other states won't allow that's perfectly fine.

That's the U.S. Constitution that's on the wall in my classroom and in the textbooks my students use. Which constitution have you been reading?

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Ramon.Big Spring.Tx — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 01:49:35 GMT

When the average donation from yesterdays record haul amounts to $102 per donor,it appears the masses are listening. Alex Jones has been a long time supporter of Ron Paul. But Ron Paul is generating this surgence on his own merits.

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Christopher Levy, Austin, Texas — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:02:05 GMT

Dear Desperate, Overland Park KS,

You clearly harbor some anger against Ron Paul and his consituents.

Furthermore it is completely innappropriate for you to call Ron Paul's followers "morons," "peons" and "losers."

It's very obvious you are on someone's payrolls in the manner you try to associate "Paulers" with Alex Jones. Alex Jones' reach is very limited. You cannot explain Ron Paul's success by just attempting to smear him in his associate with Alex Jones.

There are literally hundreds of thousands of people supporting Ron Paul who don't know a thing about Alex Jones or care to.

And to be further clear about something that belies your lineage, Ron Paul is not advocating violent revolution of any kind, the occupation of any buildings, or using force of any kind in their efforts.

If you studied the law you would know that these types of things are soon to be illegal thanks to the Bush Regime. Give all the hype and name calling a rest and present positions with opposition not facts with rhetoric.

Finally, TRY SIGNING YOUR POSTS WITH YOUR NAME or we can all just dismiss you as another paid coward.

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Adam, Venice, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:06:14 GMT

There seems to be some confusion about Dr. Paul's stance on education. Education is best left to the local level with local funding so power is in the hands of local officials and the parents. You don't need some career bureaucrat in washington running your local school from thousands of miles away. And you don't need your taxes raised to pay for his bloated salary.

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Bill - Shelby, Ohio — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:08:44 GMT

Ron Paul makes sense to me. Although some of his ideas would create a rough transition if implemented. I wonder if America has the will to implement change at all. Are we going to have 4 more years of tweedledee and tweedledum politics?

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Adam, Venice, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:19:52 GMT

There are some blatant lies about Dr. Paul that I'm reading...He WOULD NOT cut benefits for veterans...he has explicity stated that we need to provide health care and benefits for veternans. Please do your homework on Dr. Paul before you lie about him in public.

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Chris Schuler, Belleville, Illinois — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:22:06 GMT

How many candidates are currently on the Iowa ballot?... 8 or 9? If so, why is it that Ron Paul is the only person labeled as a "spoiler"? Does anybody in the media even know what that word means? (I'll give you a hint... it only applies in a 3-way race, when you have two candidates who have a similar political stance on the issues.) If you don't understand why this term doesn't apply here, you haven't been paying attention.

BTW... while we're on the subject ... Does anybody in the media know that this "spoiler" problem could easily be avoided if we instituted IRV (Instant Run-Off voting)? Do our democracy a favor and mention this the next time this "spoiler problem" comes up in a general election.

And, lastly . . . Does anybody in the media have any idea how foolish they appear every time they demonstrate their ignorance of the above two points?

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Matt Engel — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:30:16 GMT

Don't forget the federal government only funds 10% of education cost and has tripled the cost of education. At the same time test scores have gone down across the board. Let the local govenments do their job the fedral government is only in the education game to dumb down the public.

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MWS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:32:22 GMT

When will the true Americans stand up and be counted this country is broken and it is time to fix it. If you don't agree take your head out of the sand and take a look around. I am 52 years old and can see the degeneration of all aspects of the American way. Things weren't perfect in the past but we had some in Washington that were willing to give there all to try and keep us on the straight, without fearing losing there doners and lobbyist. I believe it is time to reclaim the dream of the founding fathers, who gave us a way to overthrow the government in a bloodless coup. The process is called voting. Anyone that thinks we should continue down the path we are on is not thinking of the greater good. Or is thinking it is not there job, let someone else do it, my life is good at the moment and I don't want to make waves in my life. The future is not my problem. As a lifelong Dem. I say I am proud of you Ron Paul for saying what needs to be said. And never wavering in your devotion to America. I am tired of hearing the same worn out answers to the same old stale questions in politics I have switched parties to give you my vote. Keep on keeping on.

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Brian, NJ — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:38:17 GMT

Unfortunately there are way too many uneducated and/or underhanded posters here posting false information about Ron Paul.

The man is not crazy, would not instantly end any financial programs supporting education, medicne, or social security.

The facts are that he is a medical doctor with a degree from one of the nations most respected institutions, Duke University. Additionally, he has been very clear in interviews and on his website that he would never implement programs to immediately end funding for education, health care, social security, or any other programs that people rely on.

Please dont get your information from this blog where there are people out there trying so smear a man who has led a life that is impecibly squeeky clean, especially compared to others in this race.

Use google, and use youtube to find out Ron Paul's positions on the issues, stop listening to angry people acting like children on the internet.

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Ruth Jenkins, Pittsburgh, PA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:44:38 GMT

"I wonder what would happen if the Ron Paulers actually thought about what would happen if we abolished the federal education funding."

We wouldn't be throwing our money away for a failed system! from http://mwhodges.home.att.net/education.htm

(data source released 4 December 2007 > http://www.pisa.oecd.org/pages/0,2987,en_32252351_32235731_1_1_1_1_1,00.html)

2006 OECD Programme for International Student Assessment (PISA)
Science and Math ... 15 year-old students ... below average
U.S. 15 year olds ranked 29th in Science - U.S.A rank # 29

Here's a partial listing of examination rankings in the Science series.

Finland was the highest-performing country on the PISA 2006 science scale. Six other high-scoring countries were: Canada, Japan and New Zealand and the partner countries/economies Hong Kong-China, Chinese Taipei and Estonia. Australia, the Netherlands, Korea, Germany, the United Kingdom, the Czech Republic, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium and Ireland, and the partner countries/economies Liechtenstein,Slovenia and Macao-China also scored above the OECD average.

Rankings first 30 nations in the Science series > Finland, Hong Kong-China, Canada, Chinese-Taipei, Estonia, Japan, New Zealand, Australia, Netherlands, Liechenstein, Korea, Slovenia, Germany, England, Czech Republic, Switzerland, Macao-China, Austria, Belgium, Ireland, Hungary, Sweden, Poland, Denmark, France, Crotia, Iceland, Latvia, U.S.A., Slovak Republic.

U.S.A. scored below avearage in the Science series, at ranking position #29.

U.S. 15 year olds ranked 35th in Mathematics - U.S.A. rank #35

Mathematics Performance > Finland and Korea, and the partners Chinese Taipei and Hong Kong-China, outperformed all other countries/economies in PISA 2006. Other countries with mean performances significantly above the OECD average were the Netherlands, Switzerland, Canada, Japan, New Zealand, Belgium, Australia, Denmark, the Czech Republic, Iceland and Austria, as well as the partner countries/economies Macao-China, Liechtenstein, Estonia and Slovenia.

U.S.A. scored well below average in the Math series, at ranking position #35, and below all industrialized nations except Italy.

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T Paine, Oregon — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:46:13 GMT

Desperate,

I believe it is you who has not read the Constitution nor the writings of Madison I will let him answer your assertions:

"The powers delegated by the proposed Constitution to the federal government are few and defined. Those which are to remain in the State governments are numerous and indefinite. The former will be exercised principally on external objects, as war, peace, negotiation and foreign commerce; with which last the power of taxation will, for the most part, be connected."

"With respect to the two words 'general welfare', I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."

"Do not separate text from historical background. If you do, you will have perverted and subverted the Constitution, which can only end in a distorted, bastardized form of illegitimate government."

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Albert Hembd — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:47:43 GMT

To Mr Desperate, who is from Overland, Kansas, who favors Federal aid to public education. "Sooths" is properly spelled "soothes." What kind of education did you get?

I taught public education for twelve years. I have a Master's degree plus thirty years, and another Master's degree on top of that. I'm here to tell you that the Federal government has done nothing but totally wreck the public education system.

The Federal government has mandated "No Child Left Behind," which translates into "everyone, no matter how illiterate, or no matter whether they can spell 'soothes' correctly," will pass. It is the Federal government that has mandated "self-esteem education," in lieu of basic mastery of the math facts, how to read, and where Iraq is on a map.

After watching how the Federal government managed pubic education for twelve years, I came, more and more, to wonder if indeed they were purposely dumbing down the schools, to turn us into mindless idiots who would be more readily controlled by the State.

Al Hembd, computer programmer, former schoolteacher, who homeschooled all five of his children.

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T Paine, Oregon — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:53:49 GMT

Desperate here is another Madison quote for you.

"If Congress can employ money indefinitely to the general welfare, and are the sole and supreme judges of the general welfare, they may take the care of religion into their own hands; they may appoint teachers in every State, county and parish and pay them out of their public treasure; they may take into their own hands the education of children, establishing in like manner schools throughout the Union; they may assume the provision of the poor . Were the power of Congress to be established in the latitude contended for, it would subvert the very foundations, and transmute the very nature of the limited Government established by the people of America. "

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skeptic — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:56:33 GMT

"Tell me where in the Constitution it says that we cannot fund federal education or health care for that matter."

Desperate, the Constitution doesn't work that way. The Constitution has listed enumerated powers that limit what the government is ALLOWED to do. Anythinh else is left to the states or the people, respectively. Go back to your (federally funded) school.

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William Biscoe, NC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:57:07 GMT

I was a Democrat when I began voting, I always voted for the man not the party. When Ronald Reagan came along I switched to the Republican party and whole heartily supported him for 12 years. In every election siince Reagan I've had to vote for the best of the worst Candidates......NO MORE!!!!!

For the Nay Sayers who say Congressman Dr. Ron Paul won't win or is crazy. The people of this Nation LOVE someone who is principled, whether they admit it publicly or not.

Remember Senator Jesse Helms from North Carolina and all of the Jessecrats who kept him in office for a lifetime... he was a Republican in an overwhelmingly Democratic state.His nick-name was Senator NO!

The folks of North Carolina might not have agreed with everything he said or did, but he was a predictably principled man and everyone knew where he stood ALL the time and for the most part they agreed with him even though they wouldn't admit it publicly.

Knowing where someone stands, and has stood for 30 years is a breath of fresh air.

I like most of what Congressman Paul stands for!

I will vote for him and I will contribute my time and treasure, spreading Congressman Paul's message and to his effort in the Presidential race!

Thanks God we vote in private, no TV cameras in the voting booths! Senator Jesse Helms would've supported Ron Paul, and so will a few million other people who hear his message as time goes by!

The established political machine in the United States should be on Notice.....We want our Nation Back, and we're going to take it back!!!

Go To ronpaul2008.com to learn more about the man!

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Dave Van Lenten A Union Carpenter and business owner — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:30:21 GMT

For all those who aren't on board with the revolution... I feel bad for you because you will never know your true identity. In fact, if this were 1776, you'd be wearing a red coat because of it.Today is no different . Why do we again and continually have to fight for everything our founding fathers already shed their blood and established for us ? PLEASE! Don't tell me the times and technology or whatever makes it any different than the last 10,000 years of civilizations. All you have to do is learn a little of real history (and not what is taught in the defunct public school system)to figure it out.
WAKE UP AMERICANS....
GOOD LUCK!!! Learning your true identity...Ron Paul all the Way...

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Dave Van Lenten A Union Carpenter and business owner — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:31:48 GMT

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Austin Jahner, Brewster, NY — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:47:40 GMT

Ron Paul's ideas are philosophically based and therefore quite refreshing in the shifting climate of popularity-based ideologies and shady lying politics. His ideas, though I don't agree with every one, have been consistent for years. His voting record is impeccable. He has fervently stood up for the constitution and the ideals that made this country great. Our founding fathers would be proud. I still haven't chosen between Ron Paul or Barack Obama, but if either won I'd be happy about it. Read their books. Get informed.

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Alan , Columbia, TN — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:47:57 GMT

Desperate, you're exactly whats wrong with this country. Thanks for trying to shoot down the one chance we have to avoid a REAL revolution in America because change frightens you.

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Adrian, Alexandria, VA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:51:10 GMT

Desperate, your name is appropriate. The Constitution is an enumeration of negative liberties ... in other words, it lays out what the government CANNOT do, as opposed to what it CAN. It's built entirely on the concept of limited government, and what rights aren't given to the government are reserved to the states and the people. The document was never intended to be carte blanche for the government to set up whatever program it wants to address the societal ill of the day. If the Founding Fathers had wanted a strong, meddlesome centralized government, we never would have fought for our freedom from the British.

If Ron Paul is a nut, so were the Founding Fathers. It's as simple as that. I know it's a foreign concept to most Americans today, who are used to blow-dried sound bites from candidates who promise to raise taxes and create meddlesome new bureaucracies to fix this and that problem. Ron Paul doesn't work that way. Ron Paul stands for the Constitution, not for the government largesse and compromised liberties that both major parties have come to represent.

Who is Alex Jones, anyway? Did he singlehandedly infuse Paul's campaign with $6 million on a single day this weekend?

I seriously doubt that you've had a real conversation with a Paul supporter, because it's obvious that you know nothing about them or about what he stands for. You sound like another patronizing,big-government-cures-all, throw-money-at-it statist liberal to me. This country can't survive much longer with people who think like you running the show.

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OregonMike, Portland, OR — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:53:01 GMT

People seem to think we have always had a Federal Department of Education and if we get rid of it how will we educate our kids. But the fact is Jimmy Carter created the department in 1979.

Since that time we have continued to fall behind many of other industrial nations around the world. In all levels of education, the United States spends $11,152 per student. That's the second highest of all industrial nations.

In 2003 41 countries including all major industrialized nations did a Comparison of Math, Reading, and Science Skills among 15-Year-Olds.

The United States scored 28th in math, 18th in reading, and 22nd in science.

The federal Department of Education is unconstitutional. Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution does not authorize Congress to legislate education within the independent, sovereign states.

The federal Department of Education should be abolished. Public schools must return to educating children with the basics and stop all the social engineering that is going on now.

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Ben, Atlanta GA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:05:07 GMT

I love the bloggers who are ripping Dr. Paul. You all sound the same. There's a reason why he wins every debate, but according to these individuals (and the media), "He's unelectable"... I wonder why. Could there possibly be some sort of bias on the part of the networks? Lets see here, 6 million in one day, average donation was $102, from individuals who can vote, not corporations who can't.... but we are to believe he can't possibly win....

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Ben, Provo, UT — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:06:44 GMT

All of you arguing whether or not the Constitution allows things are arguing on a false premise. The Constitution is NOT a list of things the government CANNOT do, it is a list of the things the government CAN do. This means that if the Constitution doesn't say the government CAN do it, then it CAN'T. There is no power in the Constitution for the Federal Govt. to create a Healthcare program or fund public education (see amendment 10). If we want the government to do those things then we need an amendment. That is not crazy, it is common sense that Americans once believed in. Please read the Federalist Papers and if you really care about the Constitution, try: http://www.sobran.com/articles/tyranny.shtml

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Jason, Denver, Colorado — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:08:35 GMT

I just wish Ron Paul would get a little more media attention. The guy has raised over $6 million in one day and he gets a blip on the screen. Are you serious? Whether you support him or not it seems a little fishy for a candidate to raise so much so quickly and not get a little more attention, especially one that doesn't get the spotlight like Clinton, Obama, and Juiliani.

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Scott Hermann — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:08:44 GMT

Though I respect Ron Paul, his ideas on foreign policy, and monetary policy. I will vote for him. However, it is doubtful that RP will get the nomination. Taking bloggers, registered democrats, and those not registered at all out of the equasion, most of the GOP registered voters will decide the nomination. That is less likely to be Ron Paul.

A lot of talk, but I do not read anywhere how many are re-registering, or becoming registered to vote. I do not read about RP supporters getting converts registered. A loud minority is great, but without those voices being GOP registered, he doesn't stand much of a chance.

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Lane, malakoff, Tx — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:11:53 GMT

Did you hear what Rudy said about Ron Pauls money bomb?

He said " 9/11"

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eileen barkow, new york, ny — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:15:48 GMT

Ron Paul - typical Republican hypocrite! Apparantly civil liberties do not extend to women forced into unwanted pregnacies. And most of these self-proclaimed 'civil libertarians' either overlook the half-baked idiot's policies or are totally oblivious to them.

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ARC Amesbury, MA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:18:34 GMT

Desperate in KS, I didnt know who this Alex Jones was so I looked him up. I can't really understand how you can say he is the only one keeping Dr Pauls campaign alive. Has he donated over 18 million dollars in the fourth quarter alone. I doubt very many people know who Alex Jones is. Needless to say it sounds like you are the only one whining around here. Get a clue.

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JoseyJ, Columbia, SC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:18:59 GMT

Obama says he's gonna change Washington! ROFL
Corporate lobbyists have funded his political career!
Look at all the lobbyists endorsing him!

http://www.rollcall.com/politics/kstendorsements.html

Obama is a media creation - like Paris Hilton.

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JoseyJ, Columbia, SC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:20:42 GMT

No wonder Paul is raising so much cash!
Lots of pot smokers voting for him.
Hey - with Obama you get hope and dope!

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Andrew, Miami, FL — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 04:33:50 GMT

"Paul could potentially be a spoiler to a more mainstream candidate"

By the very definition of spoiler, he qualifies the least, since he is the only candidate advocating a strong but humble foreign policy and limited constitutional government. He has the true conservative vote all to himself and his support is highly non-transferable, while the six other Republicans will be splitting the invasionist/warmonger vote and their support is extremely fluid.

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Nicole , Camp Lejeune, NC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:01:27 GMT

Finally. I'd begun to lose hope that there was anyway this country was going to return to the principals and ideals that it was founded on. I consider myself a patriot in the truest sense of the word, and what a terrible feeling to have, that nobody is really listening, really aware of what is going on. I'm twenty-four years old, and I can recognize Ron Paul for what he is, and what he stands for. To all those out there who doubt it, I'm not the only young, thinking American standing behind him.

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Hahn, Woodbridge, Virginia — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:02:42 GMT

The only reason people think he has no chance is because that's what the media (a.k.a. one of the most unreliable sources) is telling everyone. The first question a poller asks his boss is, "What do you want the results to be?"

Anyway, if you'd actually care to take a step back and look at Ron Paul's viewpoints, they make sense. Our biases will fetter our minds, unfortunately, but try to look at the issues without bias. I don't identify with any party, and I've thoroughly looked through the candidates, and I agree with Ron Paul.

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Andrew, Miami, FL — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:03:29 GMT

"I wonder what would happen if the Ron Paulers actually thought about what would happen if we abolished the federal education funding."

It's already over 90% handled at the state/local level. If the federal funds were abolished, the money and decision-making would simply return to that level, closer to the people. What's so scary about that? Our educational system has only gone downhill since the Education Department was instated in '79.

"Every now and again a few good points, but come on the guy believes in aliens. "

No he doesn't.

"The constitution if you've ever read it allows for the government to create federal programs for the good of the public."

No it doesn't.

"Tell me where in the Constitution it says that we cannot fund federal education or health care for that matter."

Tell me where it says it can. The powers of the federal government are explicitly laid out, with all other powers left to the states. It would never have been ratified otherwise.

"I'll help you, you won't find it because it's not there the founding fathers and Adam Smith (creator of capitalism) noted that government programs would be necessary in instances where the free market failed or was uninterested in delivering services."

Adam Smith was not a founding father, so his opinion is meaningless in this discussion. The founders might have thought government was necessary where there was a market failure, but that doesn't mean they thought the federal government was necessary.

"Support Government aid for wounded veterans? Oh dear."

Actually, he has been consistently rated one of the best Congressmen on veterans' care. He believes your medical care should be fully taken care of if you've served your country in war.

"Want emergency Medicaid when you O-D? Oh dear."

He wants to transition away from the welfare state. Besides which, Medicaid is already handled at the state level, and he'd just want to cut out the middle-man and let them generate revenue for the program directly instead of having the feds do it only to send it back.

"Unionized workforces? Unemployment Benefits? Not so sure, on equally sound libertarian grounds."

He supports the right of free association, which includes unionization. Unemployment benefits should not be handled at the federal level, where if he was a legislator he'd probably oppose them. But this is a national election.

"Ron Paul tends to sound good to people who aren't listening properly to what he's telling them. People who hear and understand Ron Paul and still approve are anarchists, at least in the short term. It's a sad commentary but for Ron Paul's strict constitutionalism to be restored, we need a second revolution."

Buddy, I'm no anarchist. I'm a classical liberal, or maybe a traditional conservative, on top of which I agree with Paul on the need for transition away from welfarism, as opposed to "shock therapy." I also thoroughly understand his political philosophy.

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Steve Hogan, Sunnyvale, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:08:04 GMT

Desperate,

Have we read the Constitution? Yes. In your intense study of the document, did you happen to skip the Tenth Amendment? Maybe a second reading is in order for you. What does it say?

I'll put it in really simple terms for you: if the Constitution doesn't explicitly authorize the federal government to do something, those powers belong to the states or the people. No exceptions. No caveats. If it ain't there, the feds can't do it.

There is no mention about education, health care, FEMA or the other countless alphabet soup agencies you think are so vital for our country's survival. If we want to amend the Constitution to allow for these things, there's a process available to do so.

I haven't seen a federal education amendment pass both houses of Congress by a 2/3rds majority and by 3/4ths of the states. Have you?

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Denise, Mountain View, Ca — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:27:21 GMT

Desperate...you sound truly desperate. I suspect you're a 'big government'entitlement guy. Dr Paul is the most clear thinking of all candidates. He is an expert on economics as well as a 10 term congressman. If you are unwilling to look at his interviews on You Tube or research his record, then it is you who is nutty.

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Becky Mullen — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:39:09 GMT

If you go to the Dept. of Education's website you will find the following information contained in their History:

1. “The original Department of Education was created in 1867 to collect information on schools and teaching that would help the States establish effective school systems…”

2. “World War II led to a significant expansion of Federal support for education…”

3. “The Cold War stimulated the first example of comprehensive Federal education legislation, when in 1958 Congress passed the National Defense Education Act (NDEA) in response to the Soviet launch of Sputnik. To help ensure that highly trained individuals would be available to help America compete with the Soviet Union in scientific and technical fields…”

4. “In 1980, Congress established the Department of Education as a Cabinet level agency. Today, ED (Dept. of Education) operates programs that touch on every area and level of education….”

Clearly, the founders never envisioned a Federal Dept. of Education, as we had not even a semblance of such a thing until 1867. We also see here that they only began to take serious power in 1958, and have grown continually, until they, "touch on every area and level of education….”

We all know the sad state of the system and it's many failings, yet every year we spend more and more federal taxpayer dollars with less and less success. Clearly, Federal involvement is not helping. It has grown into a huge bureaucracy that eats up dollars and hamstrings educators with needless red tape.

So the real question for me is not so much "Can we constitutionally justify Federal involvement in education?", as it is "Why would we want to?"

Dr. Paul does not believe education should cease---simply that it be returned to the states where it began, and where many of us think it belongs.

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Len, Lander, Wyoming — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:43:08 GMT

Those things not specifically allotted to the federal government are reserved to the states!

The idiotic "No Child Left Behind" fiasco is the result of federal intervention of the school system. College students unable to perform simple math are the result of federal intervention. Brainwashed students who have little, if any grasp of science and/or math are the result of federal intervention in the schools.
Deperate - your name says it all. Before you Poo-poo everything that Ron Paul stands for, try finding out what they are.

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Tabitha, Houston, TX — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:59:29 GMT

Its not crazy when we are being hit in the pocket book. Inflation @ the grocery store (you see it, same product, prices going up) and then get hit at the gas station.
WE ARE LOSING OUR PURCHASING POWER!!!
Inflation (the hidden tax) is hitting the middle and poor class. When you can't afford to live because of climbing prices. Wake up before you can't afford where you are at.
Go Ron Paul 2008!

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leon houston — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:00:14 GMT

Desperate,
you of course are right but these guys will not allow little things like fact or truth stand in their way.Yes NCLB is a disaster for kids. because bush planned it that way. in Texas, the powers that be(administration, governor...etc) fight every step of the way to keep teachers from refering kids for special services. they actually use a formula that you cannot have more than a certain very small percentage of sped kids in any district. it doesn't matter if there are profound reading or math problems.they just use terms like least restrictive environment to limit the services and thus save money. the bottom line. they want to starve public education for their private education business to flourish. how many people are aware that w's brother owns a large, profitable educational software program or that past bush officials are heavily involved in private and home schooling enterprises. the conflict of interest is obvious but when has that ever mattered. I tried to bring this out when he first ran for national office but no reporter cared enough to check into the records.

the dying middle class desperately( no pun intended) need national health care and a return to a manufacturing base instead of cheap chinese goods that are killing our kids, but that will not happen because:

republicans hate America and the dying middle class.

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Drew — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:03:13 GMT

It is OK people, Desperate, Overland Park, KS is just a socalist and wants the government to run his/her life and over tax people so that they can recieve gov subsidies. He /she doesn't realize that people are sick of the statis-quo and that Dr.Paul is the ONLY candidate that breaks the mold on both sides. All of the candidates are of the same ilk besides Dr. Paul. I bet Desparate votes for Hilary. What a mistake that would be. Hilary has already said she has plans for America but we can't afford most of them. That tells me she will be raising taxes like crazy.

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Drew — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:06:29 GMT

Unlike the rest of the candidates Dr. Paul is consistant, honest and has integrity which the rest of the candidates from both parties lack.

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CM, Modesto, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:10:48 GMT

Ron Paul reminds me of Ross Perot in '92 - Same sort of folksy charm, similar ideas, but a bit nutty. Wonder if Ron Paul will crash and burn the same way.

Yes, I have visited the official RP website and read Rons writings. His proposals to solve many problems - health care costs, education, retirement, welfare, etc. - is to hand out more tax cuts and tax deductions. But he also proposes to eliminate income tax and the IRS, which effectively wipes out all of his proposed tax cuts! He hasn't revealed how he would balance the budget or what taxes he would raise to do so, or how he will deal with the huge deficit Bush left behind.

Ron Paul is a bit self-contradictory.
Hmm, now he is starting to remind me of Romney...

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Shane-Victoria, TX — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:28:23 GMT

I'm proud to say I am from Ron Paul's congressional district!
I have a quick note to Conservative Christians who read this. Many of you express concern at the moral decline of the nation since the 50s. WIth the formation of the Religious Right, it seems that the only thing that can be done to save our nation from moral bankruptcy is to ban certain things at the federal level (abortion, homosexual unions, etc.).

I counter that with another argument. To restore the moral fabric, we do NOT need more government! We need less! When there was less government in the 50s, were Christians really worried about issues like abortion and homosexuality? No, the fact is that since WWII, the government has become steadily more bloated, and this has weakened the influence of the local community, and hence weakened the influence of the church, leading to the moral decline you decry.

Restore local government, return influence to the community and you will see the church become relevant again. This is why Conservative Christians should support Ron Paul, and not some guy like Huckabee just because he is a former minister. What kind of qualification is that to be President of the United States?

Think about it.

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Shane-Victoria, TX — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:33:51 GMT

To Desperate from Overland Park

Yeah, we REALLY need programs like FEMA, cause they did such a great job with all recent emergencies in this country.

The fact is government agencies like this are bloated and inefficient. I think charitable organizations like Red Cross and local bodies like churches are MUCH better able to take care of these things than FEMA could be.

Its sad that the government has usurped the people in trying to provide charity and welfare. Why should I be charitable anymore? The government is just going to take care of it anyway.

What this comes down to is what you think the role of the government should be. Should it be to protect the rights and liberties of the people (and by doing so stay out of the affairs of people), or should it be to spoon feed people and take care of them cradle to grave.

I for one (as a fairly low income person) DO NOT WANT socialized medicine. I don't want the same people responsible for FEMA and the post office responsible for my health.

Pass!

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Dan Kustin, Rohnert Park, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:50:30 GMT

I've been a democrat for all my adult life. I'm a Ron Paul supporter now. He's speaking truth to power. The only guy (other than Kuchinich), who wants us out of IRAQ, abolish the Income Tax, abolish the IRS, and get big money out of Politics. I don't agree with everyting he says, (ex Abortion), but I like his libretarian stance. Give him a chance, and don't buy into the character assasination.

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Dan — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:05:19 GMT

Desperate, you couldn't argue your way through wet tissue. You're the forum troll here, and you seem about as literate as a tree stump. GTFO.

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Dave Kirschner, Liberty Hill, texas — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:09:55 GMT

There's a lot of ignorance being shown in this string. An individual not able to comprehend a world without federally funded education is one who would equate liberty and freedom with THE PATRIOT ACT,THE BILL OF RIGHTS with warrantless wiretaps, free speech zones and gun control. Before one begins to talk, one might want to at least have basic knowledge of one's subject, unless one was educated with federal funds. Ron Paul has an impeccable voting record with regards to The Constitution, and anyone who would speak of him badly on this subject is either deluded or ignorant. And I personally find anyone who would subvert constitutional law for any reason to be a traitor and that means DC is the mother lode of treasonous scoundrels.

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Mau — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:24:07 GMT

Larry White:
It seems Dr. Paul is not a MSM darling nor bends to party's will. With that said, is there any possibility of Dr. Paul to join with Kucinich on a unity ticket?

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Isaac Engels, Princeton NJ — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:26:24 GMT

I'm sorry, I wasn't going to complain about media treatment of Ron Paul...but this really is ridiculous.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16711064/

Not only do they make it look as if Fred Thompson and Rudy Giuliani are on the same level, they created an extra, empty spot at 1st, making 7 spots. There is one and only one reason to rank Republicans in such a silly, gimmicky way.

They couldn't force Ron Paul down another ranking, so they MADE ONE UP. Sheesh, he must be quite a threat, eh?

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M Sisteaux, Royal Oak , Mich — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 07:33:55 GMT

the Patriot act,the military tribunals act, the Department of Homeland security, Are all mutaully exclusive to the Bill of Rights, No other candidate condems this detruction of our constitution, Ron Paul is synonmis with restoring the constitution, Spending? We are 9 trillion$ in debt, just put it on the credit card !! our children will get the bill. - the media is out to stop Ron Paul, you all have to admit that

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Blah Blahson, Madison, WI — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:08:33 GMT

Desperate,

The 10th amendment reserves all powers not expressly stated in the Consitution to the states or the people. That means if the constitution doesn't say the federal government can do it, they can't.

Not that the constitution is really that important. The only real checks and balances in this country are between the political parties. If both parties agree that they wan't to do something, it doesn't matter if if it's in the constitution or not. I think we should scrap the whole system. Our government isn't working effectively because decisions are being made based on politicians' short-term political interests rather than sound, sober analysis of the problems and choices facing this country.

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Peter Duffield — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:08:51 GMT

Desperate, Overland Park KS

I've listened to EVERY candidate. And I continue to listen with an open mind. But they all sound the same. They use character comparison's and brag about hometown accomplishments but none except Ron Paul go into any real detail about how to change our country's ills. They don't have any answers or explainations about why our country is in a downward spiral. And by the way, who care's about Alex Jones?! I don't subscribe to him. What you're doing is a classic case of "Debunking". To discredit by means of disgrace. Same old mud sling. But that's ok. You should read some of the old newspaper editorials on George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. Both were ridiculed and insulted. But the average American knew otherwise. It's true, you can't keep a good man down. Dr. Ron Paul is a little bit radical yes. But no more than any other brave Amercian leader in our nation's history.

I'm voting for real change not rhetoric. I'm voting for Ron Paul.

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mr cato, minneapolis, mn — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:15:48 GMT

Desperate,

You seem to not understand that the Constitution's intention was not to spell out that which the government cannot do, but rather what it can do. Show me where in the Constitution it specifically states that the federal government should have its hand in education and health care, and I will concede your point.

Also, Adam Smith did not create capitalism, you dumbass, he simply wrote a book about it.

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wm david, Maryland — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:16:17 GMT

@desperate,
What, may I ask, would know about hippies..(rippies, Pippies...).
You think, we are "interpretation of it that sooths you morons ", "You poor peons really do need something to believe in...", "will go back beneath the bridge like the trolls they are".

If you are old enough to feed yourself, do you remember the phrase " The whole world is watching".

Didn't think so, next case.

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Jason, Chicago, IL — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:22:23 GMT

Desperate you sound really silly. Ron Paul has received donations from over 100,000 people. I wish there were that many hippies! The lettuce would be fantastic. But kudos to you for your efforts in stereotyping and misinformation. You do your job well.

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Mike, Orlando Florida — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:36:55 GMT

Paul isn't saying all Federal Government programs are bad. He is just saying the ones that are wasteful of money without any positive results are bad. Overland, if you think Ron Paul has no chance and is no threat to win the presidency, why are you writing comments here? Why are you waisting your time? You are the only one whining. If serving in the Air Force for 4 years and going back to college and getting my degree and supporting Ron Paul makes me a "nut" and "conspiracy theorist" then I guess I am guilty. I am an ordinary guy who is tired of how the government has been behaving on issues. You are wrong about Paul, and you are wrong about his message. Stop acting like a child and just go away because Ron Paul and his support will not. For anyone else reading this I encourage you to look at the facts about Ron Paul. Don't take my word for it and, definitely don't take overland's or others with negative remarks. Look for yourself and make your own choice. I think you will pleasantly surprised to find that Ron Paul is not a radical and that he has a well thought out plan to help America financially and provide people with a much needed break from the awful status quo.

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Leon Kassab, Joplin MO — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:56:43 GMT

"Tell me where in the Constitution it says that we cannot fund federal education or health care for that matter."

10th amendment: The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

"I'll help you, you won't find it because it's not there the founding fathers and Adam Smith (creator of capitalism) noted that government programs would be necessary in instances where the free market failed or was uninterested in delivering services."

Smith didn't "create" capitalism... he merely looked at the world as he saw it. There were plenty of predecessors in the French Liberal School though... read your economic history. Furthermore, just because an authority says it doesn't mean it is right.

"Sure Paul is right about the war, torture, and the patriot act, but so are all of the Democratic candidates who maintain the same position as him."

Paul has one main trait that the other candidates do not have: integrity. It doesn't matter who *says* they are for or against something... it comes down to an issue of honesty and consistency in message. Paul has said the same thing for over thirty years, and his voting record reflects it.

"A political campaign does not a revolution make..."

Really? The Renaissance, Enlightenment, Industrial Revolution, scientific revolution, and even good old fashion W.J. Byran Populist movement... Revolutions do not have to be violent; they are a reflection of a paradigm shift in ideas, and ideas are what matter.

There is a vast demographic spectrum of Ron Paul supporters... lumping us all in a group and calling us crazy tends to make us a little offended. You've evoked your right to speak your mind, and now I am entitled to respond by pointing out your bigotry and closemindedness to new ideas.

However, Desperate, If you truly feel you are openminded, then do your research, develop your ideas with more clarity, then stop picking on the little guys and come play with the big boys.

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Corbin Shaw, Lima, Ohio — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:10:10 GMT

Dr. Ron Paul doesn't get the big media corporations to talk about him much because he is very anti-war. That's it! Also because this is not a thought to him at this point because his mind is made up unlike the rest of the candidates on both sides. He focuses on issues directed towards the U.S. Not about all of these other countries everyone wants to help.
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT IN 2008!!!!
Corbin

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Topanga, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 09:40:37 GMT

It will take the personal contact of friends via internet to elect Ron Paul and the willingness to take the time to network. The media won't do it as they are not even doing a human interest story on him except a by line that he has raised some money. I feel we are often orchestrated by the controllers of society when it comes to the elections. I would vote for Ron Paul because he is willing to publically take stands and is not backed by and indebted to the powers that be. Anyone that voluntarily returns monies allocated for his staff expenses back to the Federal Government instead of inventing ways to use it is someone who cares for our country and the tax payers more than his own self interest.... a rare quality. It would be akin to not claiming all the possible gray tax deductions one could.

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Vernon, Salem, OR — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 11:39:03 GMT

Ron Paul's ideas are only scary if you are foolish enough to believe that government money is "free". Every government program and every political promise of "here's what I will do for you" leaves out an important part of the process. That part is where they reach into your wallet, take your money and waste billions of dollars of it. Only then do they "give it back to you", with massive strings attached. Your constitutional rights become meaningless when the government controls so much money that no one can afford to buck the system and have the money spigot turned off.

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Mike Sticklen — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:43:52 GMT

So if you're not a mainstream political type, then you're crazy? Some of you people have been brain-washed to the point of no return. Your negative opinions on Ron Paul being a wacko have no foundation. You are afraid to step outside of the cage and think for yourself! Start thinking! Alex Jones is keeping the Ron Paul campaign alive?! NOT! The MESSAGE is keeping the campaign alive - Ron Paul is just the messanger. YOU ARE NOT READING THE MESSAGE! Paul does not need Jones to help him win. The MESSAGE will do that. Once you see and feel that, only then will you understand. WAKE UP!

What part of free do some of you not like? I for one am not interested in the government controlling every piece of my existance. Call me a hippie or a wacko if you want. My vote is for Ron Paul.

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Randy — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:20:57 GMT

Ron Paul gets donations from tens of thosands of different supporters, which are ACTUAL supporters, The rest of the candidates have the sheep which get herded for votes by how the media and right blabbers on tv and radio. Hukabee, Romney & Guiliani have no real support, they people who say they might vote for them in a poll, they sway with the times, they are the highly impressionable & are looking for a clear bandwagon to jump on. Politics 101

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Rick, WS, NC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:55:20 GMT

Abolish the education department and no idiot left behind...my two grandsons aren't being taught anything but how to pass stupid tests written by lazy educators for lazier educators...get rid of hud while you're at it, its the biggest slum lord in the world...and kill medicaid too, Im tired of paying for poor people cradle to grave

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Matt, Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 13:57:57 GMT

Desperate, Overland Park, KS....the numerous misspellings and errors in your grammar speak volumes about our government's hands-on approach to education. And your hateful, personal attacks tell us all a good deal about you and your weak position on the issues.

I wouldn't be surprised if you were a professional, planted blogger - or a bureaucrat in some wasteful government agency trying to save his or her job. As for your desire to "...get back to business as usual..." - well, that pretty much says it all, doesn't it?

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Jeff, St. Charles, MO. — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:05:26 GMT

All,

Don't kid yourselves. The Department of Education was created in 1979 and since that point our educational system has continually failed. All one has to do is look around, particularly in the tech sector and see that a large portion of tech jobs are now farmed out to foreign countries or foreigners are recruited to come here to work.

This is all a result of our wasteful governments idea about what it "should" be doing for us. The Department of Education has only hurt us by dumbing down our children and wasting billions and billions of our hard earned tax dollars. Look at where we were before 1979. We were the SMARTEST country on the face of the planet.

So, what is the definition of insanity? "Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result every time".

Ron Paul for President in 2008!

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LWB, Melbourne, FL — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:06:56 GMT

Except for the Vietnam War, there has not been a time in recent history that so much debate existed. Now, it's not just a "war" in controversy, what is truly at stake are the basic fundamental principles which we are all governed by.

The meaning of personal liberty, privacy and inalienable rights have become distorted, cloaked and usurped in the cause of 'national security' or bent to what vocal minorities want them to be.

All that needs to be said here is Follow the Money and you will find the truth.

With regard to the Federal Dept of Education; it is a bureautic, redundant, inefficient, wasteful administration set in place to cater to vocal minorities. And, what has happened is that our entire educational system has suffered and declined. The Constitution provides for States to handle education, and so they should...for the good of all, regardless of race, creed or color. Not the Federal Government. Dr. Paul desires to give back the power of education (and other things) to the States and the people. Aboloshing the Fed Dept of Education is only part of that process.

Theodore Roosevelt said, "Walk softly and carry a big stick. Well, we are not walking too softly and that big stick we used to have is now owned and administrated by foreign interests. Interference in other governments is unconstitutional...it's that simple. Heck, we can't even get it right here, why do we think we can get it right somewhere else?

Two other famous sayings should be considered when we determine the direction of our Country; one by Thomas Jefferson and another by Ben Franklin:

"When a government fears its people, you have Liberty. When a people fears the government, you have tyranny". TJ

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety". BF

Don't forget, the Premble of the Constitution; "WE THE PEOPLE". Dr. Paul is the only candidate that has these principles clear. He has my vote.

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Timmons, Charleston, SC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:23:21 GMT

Desperate -- Federal funding provides about 8% of eduaction funding in this country. Other than that, they do nothing but occupy offices. That's it -- and I dare you to show me anything else substantive that the Federal Dept of Ed does.

With the federal tax decreases we would all incur in a Paul presidency, that figure could EASILY be made up at the state & local level. This is without even considering this education tax credit initiatives.

And let's not forget that our teachers would be able to stop teaching to ridiculous standardized tests that are a result of an unfunded mandate. I know, I'm engaged to an elementary school teacher at a Title 1 (lowest income bracket) public school in SC. Ever wonder why we rank so low in national public education? Because our PACT test is one of the hardest in the nation. Couple that with a low income population, and that's what you get. We need to be able to educate our children as we see fit at the state & local level, because the needs of our children are different than those in NY or CA. It's a ridiculous federal mandate to blame for this.

Try learning a little about Paul before you post dumb comments like this. But I don't blame you, if MSNBC were paying me I might cave too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Ron_Paul

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Wilkes Bass — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:32:58 GMT

This msnbc article is amazing. Out of hundreds of subjects on which Dr. Paul is an authority, you choose hemp? And no mention whatsoever of the constitutional ideals that President Paul will uphold - freedom, peace, and prosperity. This humble man is leading a thinking person's revolution.

Another correction to the most recent false statement from "the man's" paid blogger, Desperate from Overland Park, KS -- Ron Paul would decrease in size, not abolish, the FBI and CIA; and he would abolish the unconstitutional and wasteful federal department of education. Of course our kids will still go to school for goodness sake.

Dr. Ron Paul is seeking the presidency simply because he wants to defend the constitution, not only for us americans for all people on our sphere.

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Jerry/Corpus Cristi Texas — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 14:48:50 GMT

Get a life carrie from iowa. For some reason you iowans think the political world revolves around you when you are a bunch of farmer welfare queens.

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Shawn, Oklahoma City — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:00:05 GMT

You guys act like the Department of Education has been around since the 18th century. It was a child of the 50s and has only really been in effect since 1980. And what has happened to the general education in the country since then? It is a waste of money, it is stupid that money from the states has to flow through Washington before returning to the children in each state. On top of that we have these ridiculous guidelines and "standards" that schools MUST follow. I am a teacher. The federal government does not need to be in my classroom. Let the local communities set their own standards, their own criterion. If Washington D.C. is the benchmark for educational integrity, I want no part of it.

We are not all conspiracy nuts. To pigeonhole us in such a way is disingenuous and rather insulting. To those above who have attacked his positions, you have my respect. Keep up the debate. However, do not claim to know who I am or other supporters are or what we generally believed based on our support for a particular candidate.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:05:22 GMT

I should have just ended it yesterday with this.

Different states have different incomes. The states of California and New York have economies larger than most countries. Their federal tax dollars pay for your schools. As I mentioned we hardly need the south to get any more ignorant than it is. Do we need the Bible Belt teaching 6000 year creation myths in public schools? The federal system keeps the religious nuts at bay, and provides them with money to be able to educate their kids.

The poorer states would never be able to keep up with the richer states in terms of education. There are two things that could happen then: 1. A mass exodus to the more economically vibrant states, 2. A deterioration of the state sponsored schools in the poorer states and an increasingly uneducated electorate and workforce.

I didn't give this easy rationale yesterday because I thought some of you'd be able to come to it on your own. However, I must have been wrong, or perhaps the Rippies and Pippies don't care to reason and would rather be told what to think by their supreme ruler. Honestly the way you people submit to Kings (first Bush now this guy) you should be ashamed.

Just think for a second about what someone is telling you. Again...

There wouldn't be a snowballs chance in hell that Mississippi could keep up with California's education system if they did not receive federal funding. Now if you Red Staters could just say Thank you to the Americans who are paying your dole that would suffice. Don't bite the hand that feeds you though, or you may get what you want, and we'll let you decide your educational curriculum and allow you to send yourselves back to medieval times.

PS I'm not angry. I love life. As far as being uneducated I hold two bachelors degrees and graduated summa cum laude from my Masters program. I suppose my problem is I like to reason and I don't understand those who form opinions without reason, but rather parrot the Bill O's and Sean Hannity's of the world (parroting Paul is no better in my mind). I am not angry with you, I pity you.

Ridicule is the only weapon against unintelligible positions- Thomas Jefferson

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Matt, Manchester, CT — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:08:55 GMT

"Rudy, who is the son of a mob boss for crying out loud." - God, I was wondering how long the morons would wait before they started painting Giuliani with the mafia brush. It's not like he had prosecuted countless mafia types in NY. Any other candidates out there with vowels as the last letters of their last names that you can slander?

What morons.

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Vince, Abilene, TX — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:10:46 GMT

Desparate

You asked where in the Constitution the Federal government is prohibited from funding health care and education.

You will find it in the 10th Amendment of the Bill of Rights which states, "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

This means that since the Constitution does not expressly allow the federal government to fund education and health care, it is expressly forbidden from funding education and healthcare.

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I.S. Hahn Vero Beach Fl. — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:16:12 GMT

He is honest and forth right. He has been married for fifty years to the same woman. He has never voted himself a pay raise turns down the pension program and gives money back to the American people each year from his budget. Rudy and Thompson are adulterous males with trophy wives, not very republican or conservative, Huckabee is too racist against non-believers and will make bush look like an Atheist once elected. Mitt is gonna make soooo much money for his business interest if he gets elected and will bring more big biz into Govt. And Mc Cain is too stiff and has some serious mental trauma left over from his five years in captivity. Ron Paul is the only one who tells the truth all the time, He is kind and affable. He understands that life begins at conception, but also understands the different mindsets in the different states and will allow each state to decide the legality of it in their own borders. He wants to secure our borders bring our fighting men home and put us on a path to true economic solvency. Do away with unconstitutional IRS and take away the central bankers profit from printing and inflating our money. How can he not be America's choice? Not to mention giving control back to "WE THE PEOPLE" and take back our Govt from thieves and war mongers. Please help elect this TRUE AMERICAN and get the for profit cronies out of my business.

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natedog, Washington DC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:26:29 GMT

Vote for Ron Paul or you're a scurvy pirate. and what do you do with a scurvy pirate? well, you make him walk the plank, of course...

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:28:17 GMT

To all of you Paulers out there who have asked for my consitutional reasoning for federal healthcare and education funding. Here you go.
Article 1 section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States.

Woops, put that in your pipes and smoke it. Don't question my intelligence I can go on all day with you truthers. As for someone who pulled Madison out of their butt, perhaps you should take your own advice and read into the historical context. Madison was a vehement anti-federalist, but as your own posts note, the federalists won.

The one thing I do love about you Paulers is your attack dog piggy back mentality. You have such conviction, but you will never win anything. Again once you lose you will pipe down and do nothing. Your Libertarian policies are anarchist at their root, and you believe that the government is "The man" or some evil force that needs to be met with action.

Let's assume that you're right (which I may agree with you) do you think that "the man" will just let you have the country back in an election? Wisen up. Talky, talky, talky, that's all I hear, and that's all I will ever hear from your kind.

You say you want a Revolution?
Ha, can somebody get these kids some rock music or something to be interested in?

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Pam OC, CA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:32:24 GMT

Jerry, don't be a jerk. If anyone needs to get a life, its you. It seems to me you do nothing all day but tick people off on these blogs..sometimes it is slightly funny, in a "I can't believe he said something that stupid" kinda way..and sometimes, it is just rude.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:34:30 GMT

To Matt the genius from Philly who wrote this...
'Desperate, Overland Park, KS....the numerous misspellings and errors in your grammar speak volumes about our government's hands-on approach to education. And your hateful, personal attacks tell us all a good deal about you and your weak position on the issues.'

Interesting how you contradict yourself in the same paragraph, in back to back sentences no less. You fire off an ad hominem against me and then say that I have weak positions on the issues because I use ad hominem attacks.

In what world does your logic work? Is there gravity there? Is it my fault that your logic eats itself?

Ridicule is the only weapon against unintelligible positions- Thomas Jefferson

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Timmons, Charleston, SC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:35:14 GMT

Tim from Bowie, MD -- This may have been covered but your opinion on hemp is misinformed & unfounded. There is ZERO psychoactive content in hemp. However, it's the strongest natural fiber known to man, has renewable energy capacity 10x that of corn, and can be used to produce stronger fabric more cheaply than cotton withour destroying soil like cotton does. As a food source it contains a number of essential amino acids and can be used as a replacement for fatty cooking oils as well as breads & grains. The oil can be used as well to produce natural plastics.

Our small, rural farmers are at an absolute disadvantage to other nations like Canada by being shut out of the market due to draconian federal regulations based on COMPLETELY false, fear-based beliefs like yours. Get informed!!

P.S. - If we were producing hemp, it would potentially cross-pollinate naturally with its psychoactive cousin and therefore RUIN outdoor illicit drug production by producing "duds" as a result.

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Adam, Redmond, WA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:12:59 GMT

Johnaa, the federalist system worked right up until the Civil War. That's when the federal government really started to take control. The problem with Ron Paul is he's an extremist. His interpretation of the constittution is, if it's not in there, it ain't legal. That's just silly. The constitution defines more what you can't do, than what you can. I'd agree that the federal government could use some fat trimming but I'm afraid that virtually abolishing it as Paul believes should ultimately be done is a bad idea. And yes, I've read his positions.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:18:58 GMT

For the record this is an exercise on behalf of me to all you Paulers. I don't mind Alex Jones, and I'm not entirely against some of Paul's positions. I do the same thing to my Paul friends and it's not for nothing. If you think my attacks are bad, imagine if he did become a serious candidate.
You think the scrutiny and easy arguments against him which I've been able to put forth quite succesfully would be any less easy to refute once the mainstream media decided to cut him down.

The truth is the media needs you pseudo revolutionaries kept busy so as to not disuade any real candidates which they want elected this time and their constituencies(read democrates). You ideologues ruined Dean's campaign by making him seem "nutty" and when the media found it necessary it was ungodly easy to dismiss all of you and Dean's candidacy.

I know it all seems quite unfair, I've read the constitution, you've read the constitution. I've got Article 1 Section 8, you've got the 10th amendment. The point I'm trying to convey to you is that you are wasting your time. You will not take the country back, and when you don't you will not do anything about it. You will be defeated. The taste of it is all to near to my mouth for I've been chewing on your Republican nonsense for the past 7 years.

Well, I'm done, the American people are done. We don't want to be imperialists, which is a Dem and Paul position. But moreover we are ready for socialized health care. France has it, Canada has it, the UK has it. Your objection is philisophical and I understand it. But if you read Article 1 section 8 you'll see that my position is understandable as well.

Listen: we've tried your way and all we have to show for it is war, debt, and stress. I'm tired of your way, which is good because things are going to change in this country, but it won't be the change you want.

You know what, I bet that the Paulers on this site who were allowed to vote in the past two elections...I bet that at least 50% of them voted for Bush, thusly, their opinion doesn't matter anymore. If this country was ruined, then it was ruined by you and your ignorant world view and awful voting history (Reagan, Nixon, Bush) these people are tyrants, and you just keep lapping them up because you are too proud to admit that you were wrong.

Finally the last strand of Republicanism to fail comes in the form of Ron Paul. The libertarian with zero belief in government, with an opinion that ignores Article 1 section 8 of the constitution and defies common sense.

Progressives everywhere rejoice as we note that the end to your equation nears. The point where all of your nonsense ideas and excuses have been tested and destroyed because they do not conform to reality. The death rattle approaches for conservative politics. It's about time. You republicans don't even understand that the world bank and federal reserve that you hate so much are made up of neocons. These are Republicans.

Games over guys. America is tired of your nonsense. I don't mind taxes if it means that my children have an education and that my parents have healthcare. None of the other countries which have these things are falling apart at the seems. You people have been brainwashed by the neocon pals which you are now trying to throw under the bus in exchange for a libertarian anarchist.

I have to smile at you irrelevance.

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Mike Cohen, NC — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:24:32 GMT

@desperate
It seems to me you are desperate to discredit the only man that has ANY sense of what is going on. The donations tell the story - and you, assuming you are a fellow American, seem to have gotten your hackles up because your preferred candidate isn't doing as well.

I'm glad the other Paul supporters are here to read and reply to all your negativity and propaganda.

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Adam, Remdond WA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:50:08 GMT

George from Reno, your problem with that theory and the problem with the 10th amendment is the clause in the constitution that says "promote the general welfare". That pretty much allows the federal government to do anything which isn't prohibited and which can be proven to be generally beneficial to all citizens. IE Create a department for Education and another to respond to Disasters and a Social Security System.

Now that's not to say all of these departments acutally work. But to say that they're unconstitutional is a stretch.

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jl — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:56:30 GMT

Vote for real change:Ron Paul!
-he voted against the Iraq war
-he has never voted to raise taxes
-he voted against the Patriot Act
-he opposes amnesty for illegals
-he opposes entering war with Iran
-he voted against Bush's amendment banning gay marriages
-he is for reducing the national debt by cutting government spending instead of placing the burden on taxpayers
-he is for fair trade
-he is for limited government
-he is for handling global situations with diplomacy
-his voting record is consistent
-he isn't backed by corporations, lobbyists and special interest groups

www.ronpaul2008.com

He wants to end Federal government interference in public education, NOT public education.. The states have departments of education,. If there was no fed government interference, then state departments would have more flexibility/funds to address the problems of their state in specific areas.

Have you evaluated his reasoning for taking this position?

"If the steady decline of America's education system over the past thirty years has shown us anything, it is that centralizing control leads to a declining education system. In fact, according to a recent Manhattan Institute study of the effects of state policies promoting parental control over education, a minimal increase in parental control boosts students' average SAT verbal score by 21 points and students' SAT math score by 22 points! The Manhattan Institute study also found that increasing parental control of education is the best way to improve student performance on the National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP) tests. Clearly, the drafters of the Constitution knew what they were doing when they forbade the Federal Government from meddling in education."

-source Ron Paul library

So what is the best solution for our failing public education system? Leaving it to Washington bureaucrats or teachers, parents, state/local governments?

This outlines who recieves the tax credits:
"In order to put education resources back into the hands of the American people I have introduced the Family Education Freedom Act (H.R. 935). This act provides a $3,000 per child tax credit for parents to help cover K-12 education expenses. I have also introduced the Education Improvement Tax Cut Act (H.R. 936), which provides a $3,000 tax deduction for contributions to K-12 education scholarships as well as for cash or in-kind donations to private or public schools. HRs 935 and 936 move control of education resources back into the hands of the American people and help ensure parents can provide their children an excellent education. In fact, since the tax credits contained in H.R. 935 and H.R. 936 may be used to help finance the purchase of items necessary for a science education, such as labs equipment and computers, these bills will particularly benefit those citizens who wish to improve science education. I therefore urge my colleagues to reject the failed, unconstitutional command-and-control approach of H.R. 4271 and instead embrace my legislation to return control of education resources to the American people."

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Adam, Redmond WA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:09:29 GMT

For all of you people who believe that if it's not in the constitution it's illegal for the federal government to engage in, your wrong, even if though you're trying to cite the 10th amendment. That ammendment doesn't have the teeth you're giving it, because of what's really written in the Articles of the Constitution.
You see "anything" that promotes the general welfare of the people is technically legal unless it's prohibited by the Constitution.
Madison may not have wanted it that way, but it's what we got.
Now if you want to argue that the size and numerous departments of the federal government don't actually do anything for the general welfare of the people, I think you have a better argument. The amount of waste at the federal level is pretty stagering.

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kenn — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:12:16 GMT

And lets have privite company do our armys cooking and laundry and we can pay some crazy amount with no oversite and what would the army know about taking care of itself remember how much blackwater and haliburton helped us get through WW2,the good ole days oh im sorry do you have a couple of billion my laudry service just arrived SUCKERS

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Perry L, Onalaska, WA — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 17:35:39 GMT

Anyone who thinks we need a Federal Department of "Education" (brainwashing!) needs to read "the Fourth Purpose" by John Taylor Gatto. Gatto is an award winning public school teacher of 30 years who woke up to the fact he was nothing more then a highly trained (by DOE's both state and federal) professional kid torturer.

American "education" has nothing to do with producing smart, educated and informed individuals. It is all about making stupid consumers who have no problem sending their kids off to war even though they said "never again" after Vietnam and who are easily entertained by sports and American celebrity culture. A bunch of sheep who just have to have the latest whatever.

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leon houston — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:22:02 GMT

Before any more personal attacks on Desparate,

His last posting is actually true. I have seen the statistics. Blue states send far more money to the feds than any red state.And if this were strictly state's rights think about what you are saying, miss. la. georgia, indiana, alabama,new mexico,tenn, all these and other states would simply become third worlds without federal help.no more social security? I heard Mr. Paul say that himself on c-span a few months ago.no more medicare? Instead of personally attacking Desparate(which shows immaturity) just attack his facts if you can.

We need middle class health care now.

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Ray, Waterbury CT — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:56:44 GMT

Wake up America! Ron Paul is the canidate who tells the truth and has nothing to hide. is that crazy? i dont think so, do your research and then call the man crazy.. don't get your information from mainstream media, thats crazy.. They are controlled by the almighty dollar. Save the constitution, save the country. Ct supports Ron Paul.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:02:41 GMT

I'm truly sorry that I don't post at night so I could have handled the Ron Paulers then.

The outpouring of support for my CORRECT interpretation of the constitution (specifically Article 1 section 8) and my sound arguments considering the problem with state funded-only public school systems has been amazing.

Thank you especially to Adam from Redmond WA who sounds as if he has actually read the constitution (unlike the Paulers) and also studied the historical contexts and debates concerning federalism vs. anti-federalism. You were correct in pointing out that Madison lost and the American people or their welfare won.

Thank you to leon from houston who is not afraid of facts, and who was willing to look up the numbers. The argument against state funded-only public school systems is an easy one. One that a first grader could understand.

As I've noted previously in postings I don't question the intelligence of the Ron Paulers, but the motivation. It appears that not unlike their neocon Bush brethren they have no care for facts. What is so humorous is that they assume that because they've been fed one amendment by Ron Paul that they are educated about the history and reality of our great nation. You guys are going to have to do a little more critical thinking than that.

THE PAULERS CANNOT ATTACK MY FACTS. SO THEY EITHER OBJECT TO MY CONTEMPT OF THEM OR IGNORE THE OBJECTIVE FACTS THAT I PRESENT. THEY ARE IDEOLOGUES WHO ARE UNCONCERNED WITH FACT AND TRUTH IF IT DOES NOT FIT INTO THEIR NARROW WORLD VIEW.

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DH, Michigan — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:09:56 GMT

Wanna know more about Dr. Paul's thoughts?

www.house.gov/paul

Some ideas are far fetched, but a lot of what he has predicted has come true.

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wellstone revenge brigade (Clinton '92, '96; Gore '00, Kerry '04, Paul '08) — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:30:40 GMT

way to win the hearts & minds there, mr. desparate. Clearly the most important issue facing the nation is that you get to be right. The rest of us are just stupid. Typical democrat.

Don't need your pity, don't need you to pretend to speak for me.

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Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:31:00 GMT

"Oh great...between the opium poppy growers, that just so happen to be from muslim founding and supporting countries, to the eutopian liberals that have been up in so called "intellectual smoke" for years, this country is headed for trouble."

You think that's how we got here? You win the dimwit of the day award.

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dave NNJ — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:12:44 GMT

Desperate,
Nice try , Thinking your word is the final . ha ha

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:19:31 GMT

My word is final. I'll repeat...
THE PAULERS CANNOT ATTACK MY FACTS. SO THEY EITHER OBJECT TO MY CONTEMPT OF THEM OR IGNORE THE OBJECTIVE FACTS THAT I PRESENT. THEY ARE IDEOLOGUES WHO ARE UNCONCERNED WITH FACT AND TRUTH IF IT DOES NOT FIT INTO THEIR NARROW WORLD VIEW.

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Desperate, Overland Park KS — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:40:07 GMT

to wellstone revenge brigade who thinks that I believe he is stupid.

It is not I nor the democrats that make you stupid sir, it is the facts that do so. I list facts, you cry and say I'm calling you names.

The problem is I'm calling you names while I tell you how wrong you are. Your infinite sadness comes from the fact that I'm right. You've probably been dealing with this your whole life considering the subtext of anti-intelectualism that exists in your post. It's not hard to be intellectual. It just requires reading and a bit of humility so one can learn and correct previous mistakes and assumptions (when they are objectively wrong). The reason for my strong words is advice given to me by Thomas Jefferson...Ridicule is the only weapon against unintelligible positions. And I invoke such a harsh tone because I am 100% objectively right on this issue, and you Paulers ignore reason all the while claiming that you champion the constitution when you have obviously not read it or you would know about Article 1 section 8.

Is there any way that you can overturn Article 1 section 8 of the constitution?

Let me help you...no there's not.

I bet tonight after I leave work all of the Paulers come on and not one of them can reconcile Article 1 section 8 with their ridiculous views of the constitution.

Hmmm...did I have anything else to say...oh yeah
Article 1 section 8.

I'm big enough to admit when someone beats me. But I'll bet not one Paul advocate will come on and admit like a man that I have a strong argument (which I do if you have as much belief in the constitution as you say you do).

PS wellstone of course you need my pity. People like me who actually care about these issues and invest time into their citizenship (not just around primary season) have been paying for and taking care of YOUR KIND forever. Call me an intellectual if you want, I take it as a compliment. You just remember you'll never avenge anything, you're just a lot of talk in a pair of Ron Paul ugg boots.

Have a nice day

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patricia marlboro,ny — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 22:58:52 GMT

Ron Paul has a message that speaks to those of us who don't want to hear:the government needs to do something about that, for every issue that arises. Name me one fiscally responsible, competent government agency! They're inefficent,wasteful & bloated.The governments response to these problems leads to more of the same.We definately need LESS government.

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wellstone revenge brigade — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 00:47:54 GMT

Desperate, Overland Park KS:

You are in fact correct when you state:

“The problem is I'm calling you names while I tell you how wrong you are.”

Yes. That is precisely the problem.

For the record, I am not a constitutional scholar, and make no claim to be one. Thus, I did not chime in on your nth volley of sophistry concerning Article this and Amendment that. My problem is with your smug & dismissive tone in general, and that you have lumped me in with the bush zombies is rather insulting. You clearly have no idea what my political motivations are, and for you to carry on as though you do suggests you are not as smart as you think. I might add that the tendency of Democrats to regard outsiders to their litle elite association as ignorant yokels creates resentment among us proles. I think it not too bold to suggest, this played a role in electing the present gang of murderers to the presidency.

With regard to your special postscript:

You have made a number of improper inferences about me personally while coming unhinged at a other posters. How odd it feels to discover that the hundreds of dollars and dozens of hours that I spent on various Democratic/DFL candidates, not to mention futile base-building activities, has earned me the right to be talked down to by some chat-room tough guy such as yourself. If I am stupid, it is indeed possible that the Democrats made me so, as I used to be one. Or, perhaps it is because I was stupid that I got involved with that organization. Chicken and egg.

Also for the record, I never called you an intellectual. That is a compliment that you paid to yourself, right before lecturing me about humility.

Have a better night.

w.r.b.

P.S., I forgot, Dukakis ’88.

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leon houston — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 03:35:20 GMT

Desperate,
I thought you would enjoy this irony.We need national healthcare now.

Watching one of my favs,boston legal, allan tells danny he needs to get a PET scan for his mad cow disease. dr.s take a little of my colon out at a time because they tell me my insurance will not pay for a PET scan for me and they cost 10,000 dollars.oh yeah my daughter just got okayed by unicare for 200 a month if she accepts that they will not cover any lung illnesses including asthma. she's 15 years old for God's sake. the wealthy get healthcare on demand and middle class families get screwed.

republicans hate AMERICA and the middle class.

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Alex, Clyde, Ohio — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 04:32:35 GMT

I think were all witnessing probably the most patriotic candidate this generation has ever witnessed...we've watched candidates flip-flop, answer questions with more questions, we've seen the media put candidates on pedistal's that had virtually no money, no grass roots support, but some how overshadowed a truth teller.
Politics are changing....Ron Paul's supporters are taking this country back and restoring the constitution and the rule of law outlined by our founders. up to this point, the media seem's preplexed as too why Rons message of freedom, sound money, A sensible foreign policy and limited government is resonating with america, We who research Ron know why he is the most capable Candidate to win against hillary or obama, we also know, he's the most capable of protecting the united states against another attack, by restoring our credibility in the world, and taking care of our future generation.

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Matthew, Wichita, KS — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:24:04 GMT

Ron Paul's ideas aren't perfect, but they're a heck of a lot better than the rest of the Republicans...I'm pushing for a Paul/Kucinich presidency. Obama has some good ideas, but he needs more experience in office to know how to accomplish his goals in my opinion. One thing I know, Guliani wins, we're all f#*&$*!