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--NSMSNBC — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:53:20 GMT

"Tagg says the jaunt taught him three lessons. The first: “My dad is the cheapest human being alive.”"
--That's not being cheap, that's learning the definition of value.

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Yolanda — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:54:53 GMT

That was a really neat story. I am for Obama, and like Huckabee on the Democratic side but it will make me pay attention to Romney a little more!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:59:03 GMT

That is one of the best stories I have hard in a long time and it should teach people to never depend on others....

Do it yourself......

But in politics, that ought to mean something to voters, because as Tagg put it, he exercised “incredible frugality” both in government and business and “hates wasting money.”

Something Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and the rest of congress needs a lesson in.....

The second lesson was the generic, “With a little bit of ingenuity and a lot of hard work, you can solve even the toughest problems.”

Hillary....are you listening??????

And the third: “He taught me not to give up on myself, but I didn’t learn that until I became a dad myself.”

Bill.....are you listening????????

They should be writing a book about this stuff.....
Maybe you libs will learn something...

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Steve Turner Cedar Falls Iowa — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:14:26 GMT

Right now in Iraq, there's a 'surrogate' soldier serving Tagg's Patriotic Duty.

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:15:02 GMT

I'm sure glad to see that one of Mitt's sons is doing his patriotic duties, stumping for Daddy. He just would be wasting his time if he actually went and fought in a war that Daddy whole heartedly supports.

Reminds me of a Bad Religion song "Let them eat war, that's how to ration the poor..."

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Robert Jorgenson, Salt Lake City, Utah — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:17:08 GMT

Mitt Romney,

Or should I say Flip Flopper Romney!

Mitt Romney's Flip Flop Record

ABORTION

From the Left:

Romney ran against Senator Edward M. Kennedy in 1994. During a debate, Romney declared: "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years we should sustain and support it."
- Boston Globe, March 2, 2006

"I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose."
-2002 Questionnaire for the National Abortion Rights Action League (NARAL)
Boston Globe, July 3, 2005

From the Right:

"I am pro-life. I believe that abortion is the wrong choice except in cases of incest, rape, and to save the life of the mother. I wish the people of America agreed, and that the laws of our nation could reflect that view. But while the nation remains so divided over abortion, I believe that the states, through the democratic process, should determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate."
- Boston Globe, Op-Ed, July 26, 2005

More from the Right:

"Every decision I have made as Governor in a very liberal state has been on the side of favoring life." – Governor Romney

- Robert Behre, "Romney Gets S.C. Support," Charleston Post-Courier, January 30, 2007

STEM CELL RESEARCH

From the Left:

"Romney has decided to support experimentation on surplus frozen embryos from in-vitro fertilization procedures."
- National Review Online, February 11, 2005

"At a campaign appearance at Brandeis University in June 2002, Romney strongly endorsed stem cell research."
- Boston Globe, December 17, 2006 Read the article

From the Center:

"Governor Mitt Romney set off a storm of criticism yesterday after he declared in a published interview that he favored banning a specific type of stem cell research. Scientists and the leader of the state Senate accused him of trying to block a promising avenue of research, even as antiabortion groups assailed him for declaring that he did not object to stem cell research involving embryos from fertility clinics."
- Boston Globe, February 11, 2005 Read the article

From the Right:

"I studied the issue for many months, and entered into conversation with experts from across the nation who were looking for consensus solutions, like Stanford's Dr. William Hurlbut. In the end, I became persuaded that the stem-cell debate was grounded in a false premise, and that the way through it was around it: by the use of scientific techniques that could produce the equivalent of embryonic stem cells but without cloning, creating, harming, or destroying developing human lives."
- Governor Mitt Romney, Op-Ed, "A Stem-Cell Solution," National Review Online, June 15, 2007

EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION

From the Left:

"When he ran for governor in 2002, Romney said he supported expanding access to the emergency contraception pill, a high dose of hormones that women can take to prevent pregnancy up to five days after sex . . . On a questionnaire Planned Parenthood gave to the gubernatorial candidates in 2002, Romney answered 'yes' to the question, 'Do you support efforts to increase access to emergency contraception?' "
- Boston Globe, July 7, 2005

From the Right:

"Yesterday I vetoed a bill that the Legislature forwarded to my desk. Though described by its sponsors as a measure relating to contraception, there is more to it than that. The bill does not involve only the prevention of conception: The drug it authorizes would also terminate life after conception."
- Governor Mitt Romney, Op-Ed, "Why I Vetoed The Contraception Bill," Boston Globe, July 26, 2005 Read the article

GAY RIGHTS

From the Left:

"All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual orientation. While he does not support gay marriage, Mitt Romney believes domestic partnership status should be recognized in a way that includes the potential for health benefits and rights of survivorship."
- Romney's 2002 campaign website

"Mitt and Kerry Wish You a Great Pride Weekend! All citizens deserve equal rights, regardless of their sexual preference"
- A flier handed out at "Gay Pride" by the Romney/Healey Campaign See the flier here

"We have discussed a number of important issues such as the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA), which I have agreed to co-sponsor, and if possible broaden to include housing and credit, and a bill to create a federal panel to find ways to reduce gay and lesbian youth suicide, which I also support. One issue I want to clarify concerns [grammar in context] President Clinton's "don't ask, don't tell, don't pursue" military policy. I believe that the Clinton compromise was a step in the right direction. I am also convinced that it is the first of a number of steps that will ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation's military. That goal will only be reached when preventing discrimination against gays and lesbians is a mainstream concern, which is a goal we share…"
- Governor Romney letter to Log Cabin Republicans, October 6, 1994 Read the letter here

From the Right:

Lopez: "And what about the 1994 letter to the Log Cabin Republicans where you indicated you would support the Federal Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA) and seemed open to changing the "don't ask, don't tell" policy in the military? Are those your positions today?

Gov. Romney: "No. I don't see the need for new or special legislation. My experience over the past several years as governor has convinced me that ENDA would be an overly broad law that would open a litigation floodgate and unfairly penalize employers at the hands of activist judges...As for military policy and the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy, I trust the counsel of those in uniform who have set these policies over a dozen years ago. I agree with President Bush's decision to maintain this policy and I would do the same."
- Interview with National Review, December 14, 2006 Read the interview

MARRIAGE AMENDMENT

From the Left:

In 2002, before the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court declared same-sex marriage protected by the Constitution, Romney denounced as "too extreme" the effort by pro-family groups to enact a preemptive state Marriage Protection Amendment prohibiting homosexual marriage, civil unions and same-sex public employee benefits.
- Boston Phoenix, May 14-20, 2004

From the Right:

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough: "Do you support a national constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage?"

Governor Romney: "Boy, I sure do. You know, that's a topic that's really, I think, very important to the country because marriage is not just about adults. Marriage is about the development and nurturing of kids, and in my view, the development of a child is enhanced by having a mom and dad. And so, I think it's very important that we have a national standard because marriage is a status. You get married in one place and then you move to another, you're still married at least in the eyes of the community and the children and the benefits may not follow you, but ultimately we're going to have one standard of marriage in this country and that standard ought to be one man and one woman."
- MSNBC's "Morning Joe" September 17, 2007

GUN RIGHTS

From the Left:

"He [Romney] is a supporter of the federal assault weapons ban."
- Romney 2002 campaign website

More from the Left:

In his 1994 US Senate run, Romney backed two gun-control measures strongly opposed by the National Rifle Association and other gun-rights groups: the Brady Bill, which imposed a five-day waiting period on gun sales, and a ban on certain assault weapons.

"That's not going to make me the hero of the NRA," Romney told the Boston Herald in 1994.

At another campaign stop that year, he told reporters: "I don't line up with the NRA."
- Boston Globe, January 14, 2007 Read the article

From the Right:

"Americans should have the right to own and possess firearms as guaranteed under the U.S. Constitution," said Governor Romney. "I'm proud to be among the many decent, law-abiding men and women who safely use firearms."
- Governor Romney, News Release, January 12, 2007

WAITING PERIODS FOR GUNS

From the Left:

Regarding the Brady Bill which required waiting periods to buy a handgun, Romney stated, "I don't think [the waiting period] will have a massive effect on crime but I think it will have a positive effect."
- Boston Herald, August 1, 1994

From the Right:

"Romney says he still backs the ban on assault weapons, but he won't say whether he stands by the Brady Bill. And after the gun show tour, his campaign declined to say whether he would still describe himself as a supporter of tough gun laws."
- Boston Globe, January 14, 2007 Read the article

MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE

From the Left:

"The minimum wage is important to our economy and Mitt Romney supports minimum wage increase, at least in line with inflation."
- Romney 2002 campaign website

From the Right:

Governor Mitt Romney yesterday rejected the Legislature's plan to raise the state minimum wage to $8 an hour over two years, angering Democratic lawmakers and advocates who accused him of abandoning a 2002 campaign pledge to significantly boost the pay of low-wage workers.
- Boston Globe, July 22, 2006 Read the article

EDUCATION

During his 1994 campaign for Senate he continually called for the abolishment of the Department of Education.
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

Governor Romney now supports the No Child Left Behind Act.
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

IMMIGRATION

From the Left:

In a November 2005 interview with the Boston Globe, Romney described immigration proposals by McCain and others as "quite different" from amnesty, because they required illegal immigrants to register with the government, work for years, pay taxes, not take public benefits, and pay a fine before applying for citizenship.

"That's very different than amnesty, where you literally say, 'OK, everybody here gets to stay,' " Romney said in the interview. "It's saying you could work your way into becoming a legal resident of the country by working here without taking benefits and then applying and then paying a fine."

Romney did not specifically endorse McCain's bill, saying he had not yet formulated a full position on immigration. But he did speak approvingly of efforts by McCain and Bush to solve the nation's immigration crisis, calling them "reasonable proposals."

Romney also said in the interview that it was not "practical or economic for the country" to deport the estimated 12 million immigrants living in the US illegally. "These people contribute in many cases to our economy and to our society," he said. "In some cases, they do not. But that's a whole group we're going to have to determine how to deal with."
- Boston Globe, March 16, 2007 Read the article

From the Right:

In his appeals to conservative voters, Romney has made the Arizona senator's work on immigration one of his favorite targets. When McCain and other senators unveiled the latest reform bill two weeks ago, Romney called it the "wrong approach" and immediately launched a television ad slamming "amnesty" for illegal immigrants.
- Boston Globe, June 1, 2007 Read the article

TAXES

From the Left:

"Governor Romney…imposed a slew of fee hikes and tax 'loophole' closures….The largest of these was $259 million worth of fee hikes in FY 2004, the bulk of which came from higher Registry of Deeds fees. Smaller fee hikes, including higher charges for boaters and golfers, we imposed in FY 2003 and FY 2005. Romney also sought $128 million worth of so-called tax loophole closures for FY 2004; $70 million for FY 2005; and $170 million for FY 2006, which were later reduced to $85 million due to backlash from business leaders."
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

"Romney continues to oppose the flat tax with harsh language, calling the tax 'unfair.'"
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

Romney didn't support President Bush's tax cuts in 2003. That earned him praise from liberal Congressman Barney Frank (D-MA)
- Boston Globe, April 11, 2003.

From the Right:

"I said no to a tax hike; raising taxes hurts working people and scares away jobs. I also said no to more borrowing; borrowing just shifts our problems to the backs of our kids...Instead, I went after waste, inefficiency, duplication, and patronage."
- Governor Romney, Boston Globe, October 24, 2005

NO NEW TAXES PLEDGE

From the Left:

In 2002, Romney broke with his predecessor, Jane Swift, and Republican governors before her by declining to sign a written vow not to raise taxes once in office.

- Boston Globe, January 5, 2007 Read the article

From the Right:

Almost five years after he refused to sign a "no new taxes" pledge during his campaign for governor, Mitt Romney announced yesterday that he had done just that, as his campaign for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination began in earnest.
- Boston Globe, January 5, 2007 Read the article

CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAWS

From the Left:

Governor Romney has changed his position on key campaign finance reform issues several times during public life. During his 1994 Senate campaign, he held far left positions that advocated for abolishing PACs and creating strict campaign spending limits.

- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

From the Right:

As he runs for President, Romney abandoned his previous stance and has come out as a harsh critic of McCain-Feingold, and those presidential candidates who support it. His transformation has even propelled him to call for the legislation's repeal.
- Club for Growth's White Paper on Mitt Romney

ON HIS FAVORITE BOOK

From the Left:

He told Fox News his favorite book is L. Ron Hubbard's "Battlefield Earth"

From the Right:

He also told Fox news his favorite book is the The Bible

Or

Who Knows:

His MySpace page said his favorite book is "Huckleberry Finn"

Read more news articles on Mitt Romney's Record
Watch a video from Mitt Romney's 1994 debate with Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-MA)

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Joseph H, Warner Robins, GA — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:17:38 GMT

So...why is it this top-tier candidate has to bankroll his own campaign, given that he is so likable and just like any ordinary American? Surely a man of the people would have legions of supporters, volunteers who willingly brave the cold to stand and cheer him on and show up in droves to any straw poll. Surely a man of the people would not pander to corporations, special interest or lobbyist groups, but appeal to the individual. Oh well, good thing we have Ron Paul.

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JD Fuller, Cincinnati, Oh — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:26:09 GMT

This story sheds light on a true man, father, and exemplary citizen...Mitt Romney.

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Dalen, Raleigh, NC — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:52:17 GMT

Robert Jorgenson, wow - looks like you've been saving that one up for a while. Glad you could get it off your chest. I guess if you want a president that can't work through problems - maybe you and Bush should start your own country.

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Jerry Seattle Washington — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 16:58:25 GMT

Mitt Romney should be running twice, one campaign for each face.

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brooks, id — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:23:25 GMT

I like Romney. This guy's family is solid and that is a true testament of what a canidate should be. A family man.

Not too many canidates have strong family ties. I like that. I like the story of the anchor too. I want Romney to go find some other lost anchors and get our budget back in line. He's a business guy not a politician like everyone else running.
I just keep liking this guy more and more as time goes on.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:38:06 GMT

If more men in America were like Mitt Romney, this country would be a lot better off.....

Less men drinking and beating their kids and wives...
Less men unemployed....
Less men acting like 5 year olds.....

A true man all the way around....

Maybe a Romney/Huckabee ticket is what we need....

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christy, WV — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:44:04 GMT

Robert Jorgenson, it seems like the only source that you can rely on is the Boston Globe. Everyone knows what the Boston Globe stands for. Try The National Review as well.

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Jennifer, Boise, ID — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:45:05 GMT

I am getting so sick of people criticizing the Romney boys for not being in the military. Are you saying that all those who do not join the military but support the war are hypocritical? What a silly notion...
They are trying to get their father, a professional problem solver, elected so that he can help end this war in the best way possible.
Mitt Romney is the best candidate!

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Layne Pitcher, ID — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:49:28 GMT

The old Flip-flop accusation is just that, old. Romney and his supporters have already debunked this myth that is still being propagated, largely on the part of the left I might add. Take the time to really watch the Meet the Press Interview with Tim Russert here at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/10005061#22283941 or read the transcript here at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22273924.

You can watch as Mitt Romney systematical debunks Russert's accusation of flip-flopping on every issue accept Abortion, which Romney explains in the interview, having already been explained again and again. And, since some just don't get it, in Romney's own words he explains his change of heart "I became governor and the theoretical became reality, if you will. A bill came to my desk which related to the preservation of life. In this case, it happened to be a, a bill that would authorize cloning, which was--as well as embryo farming--which would be creating new embryos for the purpose of, of research and then destroying them. And, and I brought in people from across the country to talk about this bill, from theologians to scientists, provost of Harvard University and others, and, and talked about it. And, and I, I recognized, as I went through that effort, that I simply could not be part of an effort that would cause the destruction of human lift. And I didn't hide from that change of heart. I wrote an op-ed piece in The Boston Globe, described my view that I am pro-life, described why I had changed to become pro-life. I recognize it's a change. You can, you can find, you know, many, many instances of my indicating my position previous to that time of being effectively pro-choice. I didn't call myself pro-choice, but my position was effectively pro-choice. And, and, and that position changed. It changed at that point. And every piece of legislation which came to my desk in the coming years as the governor, I came down on the side of preserving the sanctity of life." Sorry for the very long quote but in the face of such unrelenting criticism it is important to hear from Romney himself on the issue.

As you watch the interview you can see how Russert just ignores everything Romney said and stubbornly tries asserting the flip-flop label right up to the end. This is indicative of media on the left who must not be able to find anything else to pin on this guy as they keep pounding away at this in the face of the evidence. Romney himself points out at one point in the interview that if Russert had just done his research the evidence for Romney's consistency on many of these issues was in the same speeches that Russert pulled from to try promoting the flip-flop myth.

Now why would the left have such an interest in propagating this fallacy in the face of the evidence? This is not Huckabee, Giuliani, or Thompson this is Tim Russert. It is because they have no other drum to pound on. They can't claim that he is ineligible for office because he is a Mormon. They are already to busy convincing us the Evangelicals have the corner on religious bigotry. They tried telling us that he is to plastic and unappealing to voters. The polls have said different for a long time now as well as the many people who have seen and listened to Romney in person. The left will beat us with their flip-flops till there dying breath because for the moment it is the only thing of possible substance that might matter to Republican voters where Mitt Romney is concerned.

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robert, West Virginia — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 17:56:45 GMT

Mitt Romney has the best resume among all the candidates. He is a great family man, a man of strenght and integrity. Vote Mitt for President.

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Roger Wells, Miami, Florida — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:00:02 GMT

Cool! While HUCKABEE'S son is off torturing animals to death, Romney's kid is actually being a productive citizen. Hmmmm...

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:04:59 GMT

Jerry you are as much of a joke as your president and candidate.

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Pat, Huntington NY — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:08:12 GMT

Romney's qualifications....a family man. Gee, that would make a lot of men qualified to president. It's insufficient. Big deal this guy married his high school sweet heart. So what. He's an opportunist, who will change his position on everything under the sun in order to get elected to whatever office he seeks. He's not a true leader. He's a disingenuous right wing nut bag. He'll continue to distract this nation with a culture war, he'll destroy us environmentally because he won't make the hard choices to save us from ourselves, and he'll do nothing to improve our reputation around the world. We need a true leader. We need Hillary!

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leon houston — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:17:27 GMT

if romney is the nominee, just wait until democrats start running the ad of romney debating himself.it will be a classic over night. you just thought that kerry was hit hard. we have learned from republican attacks remember the bandaids that mocked a double purple heart winner? remember swift boaters attacking his service record. hang on, its going to be a bumpy ride.

not all the conservative talking heads in the world will be able to silence the advertising this time.

just remember:do not elect not another liberal from mass.

oh yeah: republicans hate America and the middle class.

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:19:55 GMT

I am getting so sick of people criticizing the Romney boys for not being in the military. Are you saying that all those who do not join the military but support the war are hypocritical? Jennifer, Boise, ID (Sent Wednesday, December 19, 2007 12:45 PM)
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Yes.
If a rich man with 5 sons wants to endorse a war underwritten by the less fortunate, then he can show his support by investing one of his children into the war.
If they are an able bodied citizen that qualifies to join the military and they claim to support the Iraq war, then they shold do thier duty and serve. Otherwise they cannot claim to be helping the country.....like Mitt did when he said his sons were doing thier duty for the country by campaigning for Daddy.
Like it or not, Mitt represents the party that took us to Iraq and advocates staying there.
The Romans had it right, when they went to war, the "leaders" led them in war, not just to it. And if they weren't able, thier sons went. Why couldn't we send the children and grandchildren of those that voted to go to IRAQ? If this were possible, we would not be there right now. Who here thinks Jenna and Babs would look good in comouflage?

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:34:27 GMT

Hillary didn't serve and neither did (or does) her child and since he's some kind of factor, neither did her husband, who used the military more than Ronald Reagan, though Clinton is on record as "loathing" the military.

Obama didn't serve, nor did his wife and I assume the kids, if any, are probably too young. If Dad is elected, I assume they might enlist sometime during his eight years.

Edwards did not serve. Neither did Elizabeth. Kids are young, I assume and should be irrelevant. But if they turn 18 during John's 8 years, they should enlist immediately, whether son or daughter.

Biden's son, the current attorney general for the state of Delaware, is slated to serve in the green zone sometime next year as an attorney in the Judge Advocate General's office.

That's as close as the Dems come, Steven Turner and Jimmy Chicago, you lame, irrelevant pair of morons.

I hope that if any of them are elected and circumstances dictate military action, the fact that their kids didn't serve, or barely served, won't deter them from taking the proper action.

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Joseph, Grand Rapids, MI — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:52:47 GMT

Mitt Romney is a man of character and he will win not only IA, but FL, MI, and then every signal nut job posting on this site can eat their words! The fact is Romney is the only one that can beat the Democrats in 2008! Wake up America, freedom does not come free, get out and vote! As for bashing his family, grow up! Get an education, and please do us all a favor and move out of your mothers house!

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ask not — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:00:23 GMT

Jimmy, men and women from wealthy families, middle income families and poor families serve our country in the military. We do not have a draft.. It is a choice that people make. Why the left always likes to infur that all of our soldiers come from poverty stricken back grounds just blows my mind. My family has not been impoverished for generations yet there is always someone serving. Maybe because this Republican family took to heart what a Democrat from Mass said aprox 50 years ago. "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country!" We serve because we have a sence of love and duty toward our country. Your argument is totally with-out merit. As some one that has served I bear no ill will against Mr. Romey or Pres Bush for their childrens decision. There are warriors, there are politicians, and there are people that do neither. With the logic you are using only police officers families should be protected by the law. Please find a logical way to make your point....

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J.C., McLean, VA — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:19:18 GMT

Pat, Huntington, NY: May I suggest you and all other Hillary supporters read before supporting and voting for Hillary Clinton a book by Pulitzer Prize Winning Author James B. Stewart entitled "BLOOD SPORT: THE PRESIDENT AND HIS ADVERSARIES." (No ensorsement intended.) The book sheds insight into both Bill and Hillary Clinton you will find amazing. Most of the sources come from personal interviews of people with first-hand knowledge of the pair as well as copies of financial documents, Whitewater documents, handwritten notes by several cronies, official court documents, including depositions UNDER OATH. Scandals include Hillary's profitable commodities trading while employed with the Rose Law Firm, to Whitewater, harassment allegations by Paula Jones, to the untimely death of Clinton's attorney Vince Foster and numerous allegations of conspiracy and cover-up. (Mr. Foster's body was discovered in Fort Marcy Park overlooking the Potomac River and within 8 miles of the Whitehouse. It also is within earshot of my private residence, yet no one within the community heard a gunshot, according to the FBI.) And we haven't even gone into the Monica affair. Did you know Bill Clinton remains the first United States President ever to be a subject of a Federal Grand Jury investigation and subsequent Congressional Intervention? Rethink your support!

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:28:12 GMT

Nice job "ask not". Well said.

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Mike, Newton, MA — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:32:33 GMT

The Romney boys aren't as sweet as they portray themselves.

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:34:25 GMT

Leon:

I seem to remember Bush's service record being attacked. When he ran for governor. When he ran for President in 2000. When he ran for president in 2004.

All before Kerry's record was called into question. What's good for the elephant is good for the donkey.

I just adopt the position that the Swift Boaters were just as right as those who attacked Bush. Take it any way you want.

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Blane, Raleigh, NC — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:41:54 GMT

Why Mike, Newton, MA - because one of them married the Mormon girl you had a crush on?

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL. — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:50:53 GMT

DICK, Washington State,

While in the Marine Corps, I loathed Bill Clinton just as much as I loathe George Bush. For the same reasons.

Let me quote myself "If they are an able bodied citizen that qualifies to join the military and they claim to support the Iraq war, then they shold do thier duty and serve." Emphasis on support. Mitt Romney says he supports this war.

As far as I know, Barack did not and does not fervently support this ill begotten war in Iraq.

And if John Edwards did serve, he wouldn't have had to apologize for voting for the war. And you are correct, his children should join the military immediately, should he become president and he begins a war.

Asknot, where in my post did I say that only those from poverty serve? Nice try though, don't put words in my mouth. I did serve and I can say of the 1000+ Marines that I met, not one of them was a politician's child, nor did they come from families that had over 10 million dollars needless to say 100 million dollars. It's obvious we don't have a draft.

If Charles Rangel was successful in instituting a draft in 2002, a majority of the spineless politicians would have voted against going into Iraq. Why, they would have seen how unnecessary it was to go in the first place. Iraq would have effected every family in the US, not just a few.

"We serve because we have a sence of love and duty toward our country." Not always. Most kids join the military to afford school, that includes middle income families as well.

"With the logic you are using only police officers families should be protected by the law"
Quite the contrary, My logic is, if you are going to commit anyone else's children(or extend thier commitment) to a lengthy war, then you ought to invest just as much, if not more than others. In other words, put your money (kids) where your mouth is.

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Dave Cartwright, Sandpoint, Idaho — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:54:57 GMT

I compliment the author of this article. I have watched Mr. Romney’s campaign and listened to his answers to some very tough questions concerning his views past and present. I am very satisfied with his reasoning and positions and intend to vote for him. I do have however some questions or they can be taken as suggestions.

1. Concerning variances in Mr. Romney’s positions as Governor compared to his current positions as Presidential Candidate. His responses have been too soft. His answers should contain much of what he’s said, but I would add:

Mr. Romney was elected Governor to represent the will of the majority of the people of Massachusetts, he did that! The people were his boss. If as governor a man did only what he wanted, how would that be any different from an elected dictator? When elected president he will be working for a different boss….the people of the United States, I believe he will carry out their will; not the special interests, lobbyists or Washington good old boys, but the people’s will. The people of American have said over and over again they are tired of electing people who once elected, do what they want and forget about doing what they promised to get elected.

As a people, have we become so accustomed, so trained to accept the will of an elected official after he is elected, that we not only fail to seek the one that has demonstrated his willingness to carry out the will of those he represents, but we condemn him at election time?

As a former employer of several people, I would rather hire a person that may have different views than I, yet demonstrated a history of following directions, loyalty, and integrity, than one who gives lip service and does what he wants after he or she is hired, no matter their other qualifications.

2. The rude comments about his religion; clearly it must be handled delicately but he can still handle it firmly! Don’t make a contest out of it however he should quickly shame the people that make inappropriate remarks. Call it what it is, bigotry, etc.

I would have ready in hand, scriptures from the Bible that could quickly be dropped in the laps of those that mock his or anyone else’s faith. How easy it would be to politely point out that those who mock his religion or anyone else’s who claim to be Christians, are behaving at complete opposition to Christianity.

Remember those that are saying these things publicly have the agenda, not people who are back at home voting; they’re just looking for the right guy! But if you are painted one way by those with the agenda, you can’t let it go and you can’t attack them in front of the eyes of the “religious right”; it doesn’t work with the voters back home….. YOU MUST SHAME THEM! THAT WILL WORK IN THE EYES OF THE RELIGIOUS RIGHT, if it doesn’t , they’re the “religious wrong!”

I respect your integrity for not separating yourself from your faith. We finally have a candidate that has what everyone has claimed to be looking for, but now can’t seem to recognize it.

Dave Cartwright, Sandpoint, Idaho

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:59:32 GMT

I seem to remember Bush's service record being attacked. When he ran for governor. When he ran for President in 2000. When he ran for president in 2004.

All before Kerry's record was called into question. What's good for the elephant is good for the donkey.

I just adopt the position that the Swift Boaters were just as right as those who attacked Bush. Take it any way you want.
Richard, Washington State (Sent Wednesday, December 19, 2007 2:34 PM)
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Let's see.......
In the 60's the National Guard was a safehaven for children of the elites in the 60's that wanted to play Army but didn't want to go to Viet Nam. And Georgie didn't even fulfill that commitment, which is fact.

The Swift Boaters extolled lies, against a man who actually served in Viet Nam, in defense of someone that did what they could to avoid being in Viet Nam.

Keep drinking the Kool-Aid.....IDIOT

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leon houston — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:25:42 GMT

richard,
yea good comparison-saving the streets of fort worth with air national guard or grunting it out in the hell hole of vietnam as a double purple heart winner,

no one ever refuted the guard story on bush they just covered it up well and the fact that he did not even bother to show up for the drills. kerry had generals that vouched for him.

but no matter, the point is if romney is your nominee get ready for the flip-flop shoes. the only one we may not be able to touch is huckabee.

mccain - can you say keating 5. even though the not so liberal media doesn't remember the KEATING 5,we do and i may still have some old articles on it if the media guys need to see them because apparently they have lost all their material.

Jimmy thanks for the back-up!

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leon houston — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:31:25 GMT

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Clay, Rexburg, Idaho — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 20:58:24 GMT

Jimmy,

"Put your money where your mouth (kids) is."

That might be the stupidest thing I have heard in a month or more, and that's saying a lot with all of the idiots like you posting stupid things on poliblogs these days.

You have to be 18 to serve in the military; Mitt couldn't make his kids serve if he wanted to.

And, speaking of wanting to, why aren't you writing your idiot remarks from Baghdad in between defusing roadside bombs?

I spy a hypocrite! And, not a skilled one.

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:14:40 GMT

And, speaking of wanting to, why aren't you writing your idiot remarks from Baghdad in between defusing roadside bombs?
Clay, Rexburg, Idaho (Sent Wednesday, December 19, 2007 3:58 PM)
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Well first of all dumb-dumb. I got out of the Marines 9 years ago. I served, did you? Give a good reason to fight in Iraq. Haven't heard one good reason yet. I don't support the war in Iraq. Mitt does. If Iraq is worth fighting for, he should be able to come up with a convincing argument to persuade one of his sons into serving.

Hypocrite? Where is the hypocrisy in my post? No, that word is reserved for those with war deferments(republican politicans) so they can go on "church missions" in Europe, thanks to politician daddy(Romney). Or how about the multiple deferments for a sore ass?(Cheney)(Limbaugh)

I spy someone who doesn't know the meaning of hypocrite. And not a smart one.

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Clay, Rexburg, Idaho — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:23:08 GMT

Thanks for your service. I stand corrected on that.

On the other hand, the reasons I would never have suspected you were a marine are obvious from your posts above.

And, if you were a marine, your attitude makes you all the more a hypocrite, albeit for different reasons.

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JIMMY CHICAGO IL — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:31:50 GMT

And, if you were a marine, your attitude makes you all the more a hypocrite, albeit for different reasons.
Clay, Rexburg, Idaho (Sent Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:23 PM)
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Oh really?
Do explain.
Because you don't seem to know what the fu*k you are talking about. But please, be my guest and explain yourself.

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Clay, Rexburg, Idaho — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 21:54:33 GMT

You "served" the government through your service, but now tear it down with the statement "I don't support the war in Iraq."

If you're such a "conscientious objector," why did you join the military in the first place. Daddy was trying to put his money where his mouth was?

The fact that you feel the need to punctuate your points with profanity does support your assertion that you're a Marine, though. HOO AH!

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL. — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 22:59:41 GMT

Contrary to popular belief, Marines do not subscribe to groupthink. Just because I served in the military does not, by extention, mean that I need to agree with every action that the government does. I can guarantee that a large contingent of those serving at this moment do not agree that we should be in Iraq. And therefore I don't support being in Iraq.

I am niether pacifist or antimilitarist. I would recommend you look up the definition of a "conscientious objector".

By the way, it HOORAH for Marines. It is Hooah for the Army. You truly don't know what the fu*k you are talking about.

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 19 Dec 2007 23:08:23 GMT

I don't tear down service in the military.

I do tear down flimsy arguments for an unnecessary and illegal war.

Where in the statement, "I don't support the war in Iraq", am I tearing down sevice in the military? Again, don't put words in my mouth.

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Richard, Washington State — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:52:59 GMT

Jimmy:

I respect your service in the Marines and I respect your point of view. I don't agree with your point of view, though. I know a few marines and ex-marines and other military that do support the war in Iraq with whom I do agree. Simple as that.

I do apologize for calling you a moron. There was no need for that and you are entitled to your opinion. C'est la vie.

Despite the fact that I sign my posts "Richard", I go by "Dick" in my daily life and am known to almost everyone by that nickname. My mother and father gave it to me.

I mostly have fun with it because so many other creative people like you also do, but the originality of "Dick" jokes has long ago worn off but if you get your kicks from "Dicks and fu*ks", hey, what can I do? The capital letters were really impressive, however.

I have three sons and I support the war. They, as adults, have refused to "support" me by joining up. Now, just what am I supposed to do about that? They're supposed to join up because their old man supports the war? I admit that I've had a hard time with them becoming adults and making their own decisions.

Nevertheless, I would bet that the grown adult children of many people who do support the war are more than doing their part.

Leon:

I believe Bush and Kerry were both honorable in their military service. By the way, I haven't decided who my "man" is. But Romney's kids aren't in the mix for me.

Again, sorry for the "moron" thing to both of you. I'm pretty sarcastic as you can see, but I really do try to stay above name calling, though it's hard to tell which is worse sometimes.

Merry Christmas! (Sincerely)

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Mo'thanskin — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 02:43:15 GMT

I like people that aren't totally "black and white" in their perception of things. Such souls are usually labeled "flip-floppers" but to me they are "thinkers". There are times when we all must go against a "core value" because of the "dictates of the moment." To me Mitt Romney is the best the Republicans have to offer in '08 who is electable. Mitt Romney is articulate with a Presidential bearing (so unlike George Bush) Mitt Romney to me has demonstrated a love for "the rule of law" and the American Constitution (so unlike George Bush). As Governer of Mass. he demostrated the will of the people was foremost in the execution of his duties as Governor, even if the "will of the people" contradicted his personal beliefs. The speech he gave a couple of weeks ago about his Mormon religion allayed all concerns I had about that issue. Though I am a Democrat supporting John Edwards, I wouldn't have a problem at all with Mitt Romney as President. He would be a welcome change from George Bush, in my opinion.

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Robert Jorgenson, Salt Lake City, Utah — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 14:23:58 GMT

Mormons are a Cult!

Mormons belive that when Christ died on the cross that it was not enough. And that you had to have Blood Atonement, I belive this comes from the Pitt of Hell!

Brigham Young Blood Atonement Sermon:
Journal of Discourses
Vol. 4, p. 215-221

and suppose that he is overtaken in a gross fault, that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding of his blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin, and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, "shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?"

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I could be your friend, USA — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:05:43 GMT

Robert,
You are much too intelligent to show your ingnorace like this.
You obviously are a very unhappy man.
When was the last time you truly felt loved?
Somebody please give this guy a hug.

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teej — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:30:26 GMT

Robert Jorgenson - Your post is totally innacurate and looks to be deliberately misleading. Mormons do not, nor have they ever believed that any blood other than the blood of Christ, would save any soul. It would seem more productive for you to research honestly instead of looking for obscure things that are taken far out of context so they can be misrepresented to those who don't know any better.

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Ian — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 06:47:17 GMT

I wanna know how they found that DAGG-BLAMED ANCHOR! (I like Mike, cuz Mitt rebuked the FairTax.)

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Robert Jorgenson, Salt Lake City, Utah — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 15:19:06 GMT

teej can I ask you something is Bringham Young your prophet and also I have a direct quote anyone can look up.
Brigham Young Blood Atonement Sermon:
Journal of Discourses
Vol. 4, p. 215-221

Please google the above and you will see this is the writing of there so called Cult Leader I did not make this up as teej says, and is so embarrased of his cult religion.

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Bryan — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:23:26 GMT

Only the weak turn to slandering someone elses religious beliefs in order to justify their personal politics. Grow a pair and debate on the real issues of this election not your personal religious test that, might I add, is illegal under the Constitution of the United States of America.

Have a nice day.

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CT Redmond, WA — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 07:53:24 GMT

Nicely said, bryan!

btw, Any religion has what one might call "mysteries". Although I personally have no idea about what this Robert person is talking about and I have been LDS my whole life--I have been reading articles about how it would be difficult for any member of any religion to quantify, qualify or logically explain matters of that particular faith. With that said, I am LDS and I am thoroughly mystified myself as what he is trying to prove? If this Robert guy is christian--he is behaving very unchrist-like and if he is of another or of no faith--why does he care so much? It just seems like hate run amuck. I wouldn't behave that way and 99% of all the LDS people I know wouldn't behave that way either. I would hope that says something about how we might treat people.

Now, I would also like to know if they found the anchor? Does anyone know? If Mitt is the cheapest human alive I am guessing they did. I wish my parents would have taught that to me--they didn't and I had to learn about money the hard way. Now that I am finally on the road to debt-free-dom, I can say that I would appreciate someone in government who "hates wasting money".