Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

RAH — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:15:45 GMT

Obama has over 60 foreign policy experts who endorsed him too. Big whoop!

http://www.barackobama.com/2007/12/19/over_60_foreign_policy_experts.php

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

TEC-Spring-TX — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:19:25 GMT

Right out of the republican play book. If you say it enough times then it will become fact. Just because they say she is experienced, does not mean it is the right kind.
Xavier Hollander had experience. Is she qualified for president?

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

BIGOLDTEXAN — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:22:05 GMT

Clinton told the crowd gathered in the theater of Grundy Center High School here, saying fear shouldn’t be the defining message of an American president.

S he sounds like Obama, I think that she is copying him now and she dares speak of experience.

Told you she just listens tgo the other candidates and the later cop it as her own.

She a fraud.

Obama has always stated that the president of the United States shpuld not fear other countries that disagree with us that we should talk to the countries.

Now how is she going to act and start talking like Obama when everyone knows he was the first to say that.

Worst than that Bill The former president's memory of history was equally faulty when he rhetorically questioned whether America had ever elected a president as inexperienced as Obama. The answer is: yes, we have -- and they turned out to be the two greatest presidents of the 20th Century. Woodrow Wilson was first elected to public office in 1908 when he was chosen to be governor of New Jersey. Four years later, he was in the White House. Franklin Delano Roosevelt was first elected governor of New York State in 1928 and became president four years later.

OBAMA 08' all the WAY baby!!!

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Kevin, Missouri — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:30:54 GMT

Just curious how exactly does someone who voted to go to War in Iraq without bothering to read the NIE have any credibility to "restore America's leadership" in the world. How will people around the globe view someone like that? How will people in other countries see Hillary as any change from Bush when Bill is telling people that the way to "restore America's leadership" is to enlist Bush Sr. on a diplomatic tour? How will Hillary "restore America's leadership" when she's running a campaign premised on the notion that she is somehow entitled to the Presidency?

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Sierra, SF — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:34:47 GMT

'...She talked about her work on the Senate Armed Services Committee, about representing the country abroad as first lady...'

Cutting ribbons ?
Olivia Newton-John once served as 'Ambassador to the Enivronment'
Does that qualify her to be President ?

Paris Hilton is named after Paris
IS SHE EXPERIENCED, too ?
That Hillary, what a gal !!

'...and spoke more specifically than usual about her plans for Iraq, without actually saying anything new...'

Is THAT GETTING OLD OR WHAT ?
She doesn't say anything new...
She's 'experience' ?
WHAT EXPERIENCE ?

'.... Experience in foreign affairs is critical for ending the war in Iraq, averting war in Iran...'

Hillary VOTED FOR WAR WITH IRAQ !!
Hillary VOTED FOR WAR WITH IRAN !!
'Experienced' Hillary ?

Hillary Bo Peep
has lost her sheep....
and doesn't know where to find them .....

CROOKED IS AS CROOKED DOES

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

BIGOLDTEXAN — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:35:19 GMT

“Hillary has a keen sense of entitlement,” Bay Buchanan, author of "The Extreme Makeover of Hillary (Rodham) Clinton," has told me. “She doesn’t admit mistakes or learn from them. She believes in her own mind that she doesn’t have to take responsibility for things she’s done in the past. She can say whatever it is she wants to say today, and it’s as if the slate is clean and nothing has occurred before this.”

Why is she even a senator I can not see.
Hillary Clinton, 15 years of dishonesty, scandal and divisiveness.
Has no "EXPERIENCE" managing any kind of business.
Has no "EXPERIENCE" managing any cities.
Has no "EXPERIENCE" managing any communities.

Promises that she know damn well she will not keep,
she's just like bush. If you are'nt there to scream & yell her name ( like an idiot) she wants None of You. It's very telling of her ( claiming to be the anti-bush) then doing the very things we've despised for the last several years.Politics as usual, I THINK THE AMERICAN VOTERS HAS GOTTEN WAY PAST THAT & not a moment to soon.
She runs as the candidate with the most experience only because she says it is so. THIS DO NOT MAKE YOU EXPERIENCED, AND 8 YEAR AS FIRST LADY SURE DOESN`T.

OBAMA HAS DEFIED EXPECTATGIONS AT EVERY TURN AND HAS
ACHIEVED QUITE A BIT ON HIS OWN.
OBAMA/EDWARSD '08.
Obama can bring this country together. This is what we need. No more polarizing figures who will divide and keep dividing this country.

Best Ticket: OBAMA/EDWARDS '08

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:37:36 GMT

Generals have long been accused of always fighting the last War instead of figuring out how to fight the current war.
Apparently some of them have issues with changes of leadership as well.
Frankly I am done with the current President, I am done with the President before him and I am done with the current presidents Daddy. I Don't even want to deal with current Presidents predecessors Wife taking over for the current president whose brother couldn't run for the job as planned due to the amazing failure of his brother the current President as compared to their fathers performance as President before he lost to the current Democratic front runners husband.
When you've lost your way, at some point you have nothing to lose in choosing another direction.
These people have had their chance for the past 20 years. They do not need 8 more.
We can do better.
Change NOW!
Change for the sake of Change!

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

DJ — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:48:13 GMT

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1207/Claiming_the_high_ground.html

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/12/obama-says-hed.html

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Rob, Phoenix, AZ — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:52:15 GMT

Giv'em hell Hill! BTW, I have come to the conclusion that the main reason that Clinton supporters and Obama supporters...um don't seem to get along, is for this reason: Clinton backers are pragmatists and Obama supporters are idealists. The same is true for each candidate. And pragmatism and idealism just don't go together. This is probably why obama gets more support from college students (what college kid isn't idealistic?). Unfortunately, history has shown that the so called "youth vote" doesn't actually turn out in significant enough numbers to ever be the deciding factor in an election for president. Anybody remember Howard Dean? yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaawwww!Given my new found insight, here is the Iowa result on January 3: 1.) Clinton, 2.) Edwards, 3.) Obama.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

truthinclintonact — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:55:09 GMT

clinton campaign launches two websites for the sole purpose of smearing barack obama using words such as cowardly. article at yahoo.com

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

truthinclintonact — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:55:57 GMT

clinton campaign launches two websites for the sole purpose of smearing barack obama using words such as cowardly. article at yahoo.com

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:01:00 GMT

Hillary Clinton has the right message for restoring our credibility, image and relevance in foreign affairs. Everyone else's message would bring us to WWIII. Hillary will make us the true super power we once were before Bush messed that up too.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

American Voter — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:03:01 GMT

Sounds like the Clinton's are desparate.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Arturo Gomez Universal City,Tx — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:13:11 GMT

There's is no doubt that in this troublesome times, Hillary should be elected. Unfortunate the bias media of MSNBC not to mention Chris Mathews and Tucker keep on spreading their hate messages. I just hope that the audiences and viewers do not accept and take it for what it is a campaign against Hillary.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Dave Spunkmeyer, Dallas, TX — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:44:05 GMT

WHAT experience? She was a failed president's wife...period! She has done nothing as a Senator (wouldn't even represent her own state of Arkansas). She's just another professional politician- and not a very good one at that. ANYONE is better that Bill Jr.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Kelly (from Pittsburgh) — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:49:34 GMT

Establishment people, defending the establishment candidate - big surprise. Hillary has never actually delivered any change in all this experience that she claims to have, so she should stop acting like she has a proven ability to do it. Not that I really believe she wants to. If we are to believe that proximity to the presidency is so valuable to becoming a good president, why didn't it work out that way with Bush II?

It is becoming very clear that Clinton's withdrawal from Iraq, will be as slow as the American people will let her get away with. Only now that the American people have become mistakenly pacified on the issue, is she willing to give any concrete numbers. And she is completely pandering on the Iran issue. When she had the opportunity to not vote hawkishly on Iran, she sided with Cheney. Bush has already made it clear that the NIE changes nothing in his mind, so her vote is not excused now.

As for Obama missing the Iran vote, that everyone is always complaining about. He had made it clear he would be voting no, and the Senate leadership purposefully mislead him about when the vote was going to be, so that his argument against Hillary's vote could be weakened. More establishment people, trying to protect the Washinton status quo.

Be clear when you go to vote. Clinton's idea of change is to get back to the 90's. We need more than that. She claims to be the most experienced candidate and the most experienced politician in this race, but she has made bad voting decisions and terrible campaigning decisions.

Say no to this establishment, which caters to the special interests to the detriment of the American people at the ballot box.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Kathy — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:55:36 GMT

I'm tired of hearing about Hillary's experience. She used her experienct to vote to support the war in Iraq and the vote against Iran. Experience means nothing if you don't have the judgement to use it correctly. Biden, Dodd, and Richardson all outweigh her in experience. Being First Lady is not experience to be president; do you think Laura Bush is going to claim that she too can run the country? The voters are really gullible is they fall for this.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

BIGOLDTEXAN — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:17:05 GMT

Bill is telling people that the way to "restore America's leadership" is to enlist Bush Sr. on a diplomatic tour?

No one asked Bush Sr.
and guess what he says............I`m not their man and I won`t be traveling anywhere with Bill on behalf
of HRC.

He spoke out of turn as well as she did.
Bush Sr. will no be supporting this crap.

I think HRC has finally nlost her mind.

Obama 08'

Ask Bill again why he didn`t run fo president when he really wanted to.
I`m sure he has forgotten that the reason he didn`t is because:
First, he brazenly claimed that he hadn’t run for president in 1988 because Bill:"in my bones I did not feel I was ready" to be president. Noting that "I had several governors urging me to run," the former president tried to leave the impression that it was his wisdom in recognizing his own inexperience that led him to take himself out of the race. While this version of history may be convenient for the husband of a candidate falling behind Barack Obama in the early primaries, it is simply not true. It’s another Clinton rewrite on history.
Those who were there when Governor Clinton suddenly decided not to run in 1988 will clearly recall that it was solely because of the serious threat of his extra-marital affairs seeing the light of day. It had nothing to do with experience.

They are forever rewritting history.
She claims she has experience and she doesn`t.
She calims that she ahs been fighting the republicans
well guess what HRC you have lost each and every fight with them as I don`t see or haven`t seem any results from these so call fights.

AND GUESS WHAT ELSE, being the first lady for 8 years do not make you experience.

OBAMA 08'

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Rose, Palisades Park,NJ — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:38:26 GMT

Thank you Rob.

We need pragmatism. Idealism has no place here and now.

HRC has what it takes to do America good - experience, determination, commitment, leadership,a good grasp of foreign policy that makes us respected abroad.

She has the added advntage of wise counsel from a man who did America proud, Blii Clinton.

Go Hillary Go!

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Thu, 20 Dec 2007 23:30:09 GMT

BigoldTexan - lol, you make Clinton sound like a scientologist.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

George S. — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:12:55 GMT

She once tuned me into a newt!!

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Pete Caloger Bushkill, PA 18324 — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:33:50 GMT

Geez. What experience???? Stop lying to the people, Clinton(s).

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

DAVID ANDERS PHARR,TX. — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:35:33 GMT

Why would any soldier suppot HILLARY who is supported by KOS who runs our soldiers down. Remember the General Betreaus ad, and her critizism of him. I would think no soldier would re enlist and others would retire; RESULT NO MILITARY NO PROTECTION

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

DAVID ANDERS PHARR,TX. — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 02:53:31 GMT

PLEASE DAVE FROM DALLAS HILLARY IS NOT FROM ARKANSAS IF FACT SHE CALLED ALL ARKANSANS HICKS WHEN SHE FIRST ARRIVED WITH BILL, AND WOULD NOT EVEN USE HIS LAST NAME WHEN FIRST MARRIED,TILL HE LOST ELECTION. WHEN SHE CAME FROM CALIFORNIA SHE WAS WORKING FOR A WELL KNOWN COMMUNIST LAW FIRM DEFENDING THE BLACK PANTHERS FOR MURDER AND TERROSIMN, WITHOUT A LAW DEGREE, SHE FLUNKED THE EXAM, BILL GOT HER THROUGH WHEN HE TAUGHT LAW IN ARKANSAS LATER.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

KWH,CA — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 03:49:15 GMT

Hilary Clinton does not want to protect America, she wants to sell it to the highest bidder. Her husband's NAFTA policy has become the greatest challenge to American Security by sucking American jobs and industrial power overseas and into the hands of China and India. The "arsenal of democracy" has been weakened by the Clintons. If she were president, she would probably buy U.S. Military uniforms from China, give them our technology to make weapons for us (which they would use against us), and in general destroy what's left of our industrial base to further the profits of her multinational corporate masters and her Chinese and India friends. How much money have the Clinton's and their foundations received from China? Do we need to wait for the other Tsu to drop?
We need someone as president who will work to restore our country's industrial base and create jobs for Americans. John Edwards is the answer, he is the only one who will stand up to Clinton's multinational corporate masters. Edwards/Richardson 2008

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

SolderofChrist — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:10:27 GMT

Two boys and a girl were trying to see who could make a straight line forming a peaceful path across the middleeast. Only one (the girl) succeeded. When asked how she managed to do it, her responds was :I have more experience! One of the boy's lines ended up twisted around the Pakistan offending the tribal leaders, the other boy's line ended up in the mountains of Arabia tribal leader land. The young girl looked at the other two boys and said: It was easy, I kept my eyes fixed on Iraq and had the soldiers that I left to guard the borders show me how to draw the line." To all viewers: it will take patience, name recognition, and Experience to accomplish this goal.

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

SolderofChrist — Fri, 21 Dec 2007 20:11:51 GMT

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

Rebecca Trumansburg, NY — Sat, 22 Dec 2007 15:54:25 GMT

I'm reading these blogs and I think political discourse is wonderful. I just wish it were more reasoned...and accurate. The question I've seen a few times regarding Sen Clinton, is What Experience?
Well, besieds working on legal/health issues for children and the poor most of her life (Children's Defense Fund/US Legal Services Corp), she traveled extensively as First Lady for 8 years. Yes, she was often the face of the US. Were these more than just photo ops? Well, I remember the amazingly brave and brilliant speech she gave to China regarding human and women's rights. She tackled Health Care and Schip while First Lady. No, she didn't always succeed and yes, she has made mistakes. She's pretty good about learning from those, though.
Does being the First Lady of a Governor for 12 years and then of the President for 8 years count for experience. Well, I think that depends on the person. For Eleanor Roosevelt and Edith Wilson, Nancy Reagan, they were very involved with their husbands presidencies, so yes. Barbara and Laura Bush have been traditional First Ladies, so no.
National Elected Office?
7 years
Senate Armed Services Committee
Extensive Bi-partisan work both with colleagues and here in New York where she has won quite a lot of us over with her hard work. (Upstate New York is an economic mess.)
Do I agree with her Iran resolution vote. No. But I have never agreed completely with any politician. And she showed up. I think it is disingenous to criticize someone for a vote you didn't show up for.
And finally, she's from Illinois, not Arkansas. Just to keep the facts straight.

Barack, on the other hand, is one of the most inspirational speakers I have ever seen. He has Statewide elected experience of 8 years and National Elected experience of 3 years. But in all that time, he has really not taken many public stands on things. Certainly not too many controversial items. And he has not created any bills or legislation on his own, but has signed on to others. I have not seen much political courage. I'm discounting both his Iraq stance because he was not in the position to vote on this at the time and I have not seen him vote differently from Clinton on Iraq since then. His specifics on so many plans are non-existant or so vague. He has not bowled me away by his knowledge of the complexities and specifics of the issues and how he would specifically change them. He has shown more of a willingness to fight back charges recently, which is good, but I really think the Republican machine would just eat him alive.
Our government is so corrupted and broken. We don't have time for the inevitable stumbles that a first year administration makes.
I think Hillary has the experience to make the changes needed. And Barack does not...yet. But give him some time.. If he actually puts some specifics and actual experience behind his rhetoric, if he actually shows he can accomplish some of those things--then look out!

Surrogates talk up Hillary's experience

taters — Sat, 29 Dec 2007 22:21:42 GMT

Present.