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Eric, Seattle WA — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:02:53 GMT

I'll give you a good reason to vote for Mitt Romney.

He knows what he's doing as an executive. Romney knows how to lead well, and he's proven it time and time again. Romney has proven his ability to affect change in private organizations and to get things done. Romney may not have the charisma of the pastor, but he has a unique God given powerful talent to lead and turn around organizations. No other candidate in either party comes close to Mitt Romney's unique experience in the wild west that is the private sector.

Mike Huckabee may be able to shoot a bird, but can he analyze the incredibly complex federal beauracracy and know how to cut out the waste and inefficiency that is killing us? Mitt Romney can and will do that. Mitt Romney can take the federal government and the Washington culture of obesity and waste to the woodshed and set policies that will lead to economic and political greatness for generations to come.

Mitt Romney has the right ideas and plans regarding illegal immigration and on taxation. McCain has proven that his leadership on both of those issues were just plain wrong. John McCain also proved that he is not an effective leader when he drove his campaign into bankruptcy and started taking tax payer money to fund his campaign.

When it comes to the business of leading the world, Mitt Romney is the best of the brightest and we would be foolish not to nominate him.

In 8 of the 10 last elections, the party who has nominated their candidate first has won the election.

Let's put our individual differences aside and agree that Mitt Romney is a good man at heart. Let's put the small differences aside and unify before the democrats do and let's get started on winning the general election before the democrats do. Mitt Romney is poised to win in Iowa and New Hampshire. If Iowa will vote with his head and picks Mitt Romney, Romney stands a good chance of winning New Hampshire. If Romney wins Iowa and New Hampshire, he stands an EXCELLENT chance of winning Michigan. We can turn this thing into a sweep and have a decided unified nomination that will cause the democrats to start shaking in thier wingtips.

Romney/Patreous '08!

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Larry — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:16:50 GMT

I'm a Canadian, the closest thing on the face of this planet you will find to an American. I'm an admitted admirer of my my big brother to the south, who will kick the living crap outta you if you step on the little guy, but this made even me vomit in my mouth a little bit. Imagine the rest of the world. Huckabee on foreign policy: "At the risk of oversimplifying the whole discussion, let me just express – Sometimes the one thing I like to do is to try to make it where I can understand and hopefully others can too – When we were all kids growing up in a neighborhood, chances are there was one kid in our neighborhood who was really good at everything: he made straight As, ran faster, jumped higher and threw the ball better. He was just good at everything. When that kid acted like it and spiked the ball at our feet, waved his A-plus in our faces and danced around us when he scored the touchdown, do you remember how you felt toward that kid?[…]Take the same neighborhood and the same gifted kid, but this time instead of the kid rubbing your face in it, the kid is very thoughtful. When he sees that you really did your best and didn’t make the A on the spelling test, he says, “Hey, why don’t I come over and I’ll help you learn your spelling words.” And when he sees you struggling to hit the baseball, he says, “If you choke up on the bat you get better leverage and you can hit better, here, hit like this, try it.” Now, when the kid uses his strengths and his abilities and he encourages you and helps you to be your best, now what’s your attitude toward that kid? You want to be like him; you emulate him. You want to hang out with him. He’s your hero."

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Jeff, Portland, Oregon — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:32:32 GMT

Mitt Romney would be corporate cronyism on the same level as Bush. More corporate welfare for the rich while ignoring the needs of average americans. Lobbyist's power would only grow under his administration. He is a supporter of the Iraq war. Flips and Flops at every turn for political reasons. If you think things are bad now, I wouldn't expect anything to change under a Romney Administration.

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Tuck, realityville, KS — Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:56:27 GMT

romney made his money exporting jobs from the USA.

he's not presidential material

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Steve A Jonesboro IN — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:03:38 GMT

Mitt is the biggest phony to ever hit the campaign trail.

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TS, Ohio — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:23:23 GMT

Romney is the MAN!!!!!! Oh, what a MAN!!!!
Go Romney we love love love you!!!!

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Chris, Seattle, WA — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 00:33:51 GMT

You know what I see and hear when I see and hear Romney? I see the Republican answer to Bill Clinton. A well spoken, well educated, man who will do what is most convenient for him and his presidency at any given time. He will sail with the wind his entire presidency and make you think it was his stance all along.
I think liberals should be excited about Mitt, he's not going to be Bush. He doesn't have an axe to grind or any pet causes. He's going to do what people tell him what a good president should do. He won't overturn Roe vs. Wade, he won't touch social security or medicare. He IS the status-quo and just like Bill Clinton you'll have a hard time pointing out one useful thing he did in office by the time he leaves.

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JB — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:11:34 GMT

Huckabee has a simile for everything; Larry mentioned above "like" or "as" is a Huckabee response to everything. I don't think I could stand his weekly metaphors to the nation.
<BR>Perhaps he should try this simile, "I never acheived the American Dream like other candidates, like I never finished my masters degree..."
<BR> We need a President that finishes; Romney or McCain are very competent (without the "honorariums" and furniture required by Huckabee).

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Gary Gross, St. Cloud, MN — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:38:18 GMT

Mitt Romney is an electoral disaster waiting to happen. With his collection of flip-flops, the Democratic nominee would have him on defense from mid-February through November's election.

On the other hand, I've written here about why Fred Thompson should be our nominee:

http://www.letfreedomringblog.com/?p=2300

The choice is clear. Fred's the unchanging conservative. Fred's the best leader, too. We don't need another northeastern RINO setting the GOP back another decade.

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Douglas, Ft. Lauderdale — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:41:47 GMT

The liberal press wants Obama or Clinton. The best way to get that is to trash Romney. Remember how the press trashed Romney's father. We got Nixon instead. That turned out well didn't it?

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Craig, Cumming, Georgia — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 01:42:06 GMT

I don't believe Romney has to win both IA and NH. He has to win one of them. No other candidate has the organizational network in place to move beyond the early states beside Giuliani and he is fading fast. Romney is smart but also a good man of integrity. The Democratic National Committee has issued 104 press releases against him and only 4 against Huckabee--none since March. Shows who they are afraid of--Go Romney.

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HMT-MI — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:33:54 GMT

please----just because mitflop speaks and puts out a terrific expensive ad about himself does not make him a viable truthful candidate.It boggles the mind why the guy keeps lying,apoligizing for the lies,and just speaks up for both sides to every question.How smart can he be?Is he just covering all bases?Hmmmm?As for his business practices he just bought out companies,destroyed them and the winners he worked for such as Bain just settled in the caymans to avoid paying their fair share of taxes to their home country.How honest is that Mitflop?He is just another clone of G Bush ---no better,noworse,just as corrupt and has the same habit of lying.

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anna gates — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 02:51:02 GMT

Mitt Romney is not the person to lead this country!!! He was a miserable failure as governor of Mass!! He is corrupt and a complete failure as a leader!!! I couldn't wait for him to get the hell out of my state!!!

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Steve of MV — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:11:29 GMT

You state: “Interestingly, his campaign issued a press release today criticizing McCain on immigration after a report today found that the senator is still having trouble with the issue on the trail. And despite McCain’s acknowledgements earlier this fall that his thinking on the issue has changed after emphatic opposition to his proposals from the American public, Romney’s release highlighted some of McCain’s statements from 2003.”

I wonder if you missed the point of the use of McCain’s statements from 2003 in Romney’s press release. Sure, McCain has “fine-tuned his position and changed the emphasis”--making secure borders a prerequisite to amnesty/earned legalization/path to citizenship--as the ABC News report indicated. Romney’s use of the McCain quotations from 2003 does not suggest otherwise. The 2003 quotations are used, rather, to contradict what McCain is saying now.

As the Romney press release states, McCain, at the CNN/YouTube debate (11/28/07), said “we never proposed amnesty.” Then McCain’s political director said, “He’s never been for amnesty.”

In the 2003 quotations McCain was saying, in various ways, that congressional immigration reform must include “amnesty.” So how can he now claim, honestly, that “we never proposed amnesty”?

He can only do so by changing the definition of amnesty. Before, amnesty was waiving deportation and letting illegal aliens stay in the country and even become citizens if they meet certain requirements (like paying fines, learning English, background check, working for pay for a number of years)--similar to the amnesty of the 1986 law. Now, says McCain, amnesty means absolute forgiveness without any requirements or punishment--which, indeed, was never proposed.

But if McCain is now using this new definition of amnesty in denying that amnesty was ever proposed, he still appears to be dishonest because this new definition of amnesty is so absurd. Waving deportation with the imposition of just token punishments is just as fairly called amnesty as waiving deportation with no punishment at all. “Whether you fine illegal aliens or stick them in English classes or make them say a hundred Hail Marys, at the end of the day, illegals would be allowed to stay and become citizens under this bill. That's amnesty....” (TIME Magazine, June 7, 2007.)

Romney is using McCain’s words to prove that McCain is a liar.

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Spencer, Orlando, Fl — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:00:15 GMT

People can say what they want about Mitt Romney but he record says this:

He cut taxes, he bridged a 3 billion dollar gap in his state and he balanced their budget, he got many people in Mass. health insurance, he lowered insurance cost, he's also made huge change in everything that he's been involved with from business to the olymipics to governor.

Romney hasn't pandered to big business or any of that crazy stuff. This guy has high morals and walks the walk. While he did change his position on abortion he also stayed true to his word and didn't try and change the law on abortion in Mass.(You sure don't hear much from the press about that.)

Unlike McCain or Huckabee, Romney isn't giving our tax dollars to illegials for college or trying to give illegals amnesty, he isn't trying to pardon thousands of criminals or even worse murderers, he also isn't trying to raise taxes like McCain or raise taxed like Huckabee did in his state. McCain may take some bold positions but is has often come down on the wrong side of the solution.

Romney clearly has the best platform and knows how to get things done. That's why he's been so sucessful every where he's been. We need a big change in this country and Mitt Romney's the man for the job.

I may not be able to vote in Iowa or New Hampshire but I'll vote for him in Florida.

Mitt Romney for president.

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Jeff, Atlanta, GA — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:08:56 GMT

Romney is executing an incredible expectations strategy. Huckabee and McCain's rise and subsequent falls will only bolster Romney's strength as he wins in those states.

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Jeff Fuller, Walker, Louisiana — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:19:47 GMT

Romney's comment that “But you know to win the presidency in November of ’08, we’ve got to win in both states.” is one that he's made before . . . and is speaking of the general election . . . not the primary (like the headline misleadingly implies).

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Matt, Des Moines, IA — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:37:32 GMT

Jeff rethink what you just said. Bush and Romney are entirely two different people. Romney has succeeded in everything he has done. He has succeeded in the private sector by being able to turn around failing companies and propel them to success. He did the same thing as the governor of Massachusetts. Massachusetts faced a huge budget problem and he was able to help turn that around while also getting everyone in the state healthcare, WITHOUT raising taxes. Oh we could have Hillary Care, that would be wonderful. Having government take over healthcare while raising taxes in the meantime. Government healthcare only benefits those on welfare and who are too LAZY to work. Romney also turned around the olympics which faced turmoil. Romney know how to fix things Bush doesn't. So to say Romney is more of Bush is completely false. Rom

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Heidi Shaw Kelso Washington — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:15:05 GMT

Romney is the only candidate that has actually done what other Politians claim they will do in Washington. He will rid the US of its crippling dept just as he did in Massachusetts and in the Olympics. He can and actually will cut pork barrel spending as he has demonstrated throughout his business career. He will stimulate economic growth. He will appoint judges who will uphold the Constitution instead of legislating from the bench. He fought the Massachusetts supreme courts decision on gay marriage and he vetoed embryo farming bills. He truly is pro-life, pro-family and pro-economic development. He doesn’t have scandals in his past, He is what this nation needs.

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Scott, Indianapolis, IN — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:15:20 GMT

Romney definitely has the right ideas on illegal immigration, something neither McCain not Huckabee has. Although many people don't know who he is, Congressman Tancedo was a leader in bringin the illegal immigration issue to the forefront. He endorsed has endorsed Romney because he him as the only one who will take this fight seriously. With the other two, they will give it some lip service during the campaign, but if they win, it will quickly drop off the radar as they don't really take it seriously. McCain has alreay been beaten up by it that he wants it to go away. Huckabee's actual record in AK speaks for itself that he is far from the conserevative voice on this issue.

On taxes and the economy, Romney has the understanding and experience hands down over the other two. Huckabee is too cavalier in throwing out the idea of a national sales tax as the end all for all our tax woes, and justify our distaste for the IRS. But look the Fair Tax website and other writings on the topic, there is no indepth analysis that conclusivly shows this will deliver all it promises. As a retired military officer who specialized in governemtn finance for 20+ years, I am very skeptical that although the sales tax is easier to understand, it will actually cost put a greater financial burden on the middle class than the current income tax. I'm not even sure where McCain stands on the economy.

As a veteran, I'll concede McCain is more solid when it comes to the war in Iraq. His experience and wisdom is at a whole different level than any of the nominees in either party. McCain was my man in 2000, and had he been our president, I don't think we would have ever gone into Iraq. But we are there, and McCain knows we need to stay until the mission is accomplished. We are making substantial progress now, and troop strength in Iraq is being brought down. Romney agrees with McCain, admits the areas he is not as well-versed in, and is committed to working with knowledgeable experts like McCain. The current administraion never established a clear policy in regards to Gitmo or torture, Romney is much more willing to listen and take advice from McCain and others to change this. Huckabee is continually behind even the media when it comes to national security issues; and has no substantive position, just one-liners.

As for the flip-flopping; these are mostly red herrings built up by the media. The careful student will find that Romney's actual ACTIONS were more consistent with the positions he has today. I lived in MA during his years as governor, and saw how he worked with people like Kennedy, Kerry and Barney Frank. MA was not going to suddenly become conservative, but Romney did a lot to move them more towards the center.

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Scott Chandler AZ — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:28:29 GMT

I have read much diatribe about Mitt Romneys seemingly unquenchable double speak, and that somehow this habit of his makes it impossible for us trust him. Of course, most of what political types say has never been trustworthy, regardless of what side of the aisle one sits upon.

It is behavior, far more than word, that tells me what is really in the heart of person.Show me the money. Talk is cheap! With a search for behaviors in mind, this is what I found when I went looking for Mitt Romneys actions, more than words

I found a man who has pledged to forego his salary as President of the United States and who refused the same as Mass. Governor. Imagine, the president as a true public servant..I find it supremely refreshing.

I found a man who recently spent a free Saturday morning in October helping San Diego fire victims, without so much as a word to the press? Chopping down trees and cleaning up the neighbor property. That sure makes him hard to trust.

I find a man who once shut down his private business, and paid his staff to search for the missing daughter of one of his employees? No questions or expectations, just lets go find her! No one was watching and no one was listening. What does this say about the man?

I found a man who has been loyal, faithful and true to his one wife and love for 38 years. Do we not realize what this says about a persons character, to have been so devoted and perfectly faithful in this most sacred of all relationships. And yet, some say he cant be trusted!

Finally, I find a candidate who routinely turns organizations fiscal mismanagement into economic victory for the company and its employees and interests. And far more importantly, there is no one suggesting that he ever broke any laws or violated ethics in doing so! No Blackwater, no Whitewater, no Halliburton.

So, I am left to conclude, given that I can trust no ones words, that it is only actions I can measure, and behaviors I can assess. From this standpoint, my choice for president is so easy and Mitt is that man!"

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ScottfromAZ — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:28:53 GMT

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Roger Grant Concord, NH — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 05:58:11 GMT

Mitt Romney is precisely what this country needs - a strong leader with a brilliant economic mind. I'm afraid Mike Huckabee has neither. Be verry careful, Iowa.

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Wade Ens New York, New York — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:02:51 GMT

Rudy is out of it, It down to Mitt Romney and Mike Huckabee, may the best man win.

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Tyrone Gangsta Carmel, Califonia — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:08:39 GMT

This race is getting very interesting compared to the dont know crap Party. Mitt Romney is more polished and Huckabee has connected with a lot of people looking for the values that built America like making Jesus a part of our lives. We are warming up to Mitt Romney slowly.

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Robert Jorgenson, Salt Lake City, Utah — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 08:38:23 GMT

More Flip Flopping from Mitt Romney

A photograph of GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney at a 1994 Planned Parenthood fund-raiser has surfaced, once again raising questions about the former Bay State’s governor’s abortion flip-flopping.

The picture, a copy of which was obtained by the Herald, shows Romney and his wife Ann at a house party fund-raiser in Scituate with Nicki Nichols Gamble, who was the president of the Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts at the time. Romney has already downplayed ties to Planned Parenthood after revelations that Ann Romney donated $150 to the group.

Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakie’s house and that she “clearly” remembered speaking with Romney at the event. At the time, Romney was running as a pro-choice Republican against U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.).

“My recollection is that we talked about his senate candidacy and the fact that he was supporting Roe v. Wade and a choice agenda at the time,” Gamble told the Herald. “It was a Planned Parenthood event. We were there to discuss our programs and our advocacy.”

The event was held the same day Ann Romney wrote a check to the pro-choice group. Romney has previously said he had “no recollection” of his wife writing the check to Planned Parenthood.

Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom called the flap “a dog bites man story.”

“Governor Romney used to have a different position on abortion,” Fehrnstrom said. “He is now firmly pro-life and has made it clear that as President he will advocate for a culture that welcomes life and protects the sanctity of life. This is the same path that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush followed.”

Because of his abortion shift, Romney has been branded a flip-flopper by his GOP primary opponents, as well Democrats. Romney has stated he became pro-life in 2004 during the stem cell debate in Massachusetts.

Beyond attending the event, Romney filled out a 2002 questionnaire for the Planned Parenthood Advocacy Fund in which he said he supported Roe v. Wade, sex education in schools and increased access to emergency contraception.

“With Mitt Romney, this has been more than a flip-flop. This has been an extreme makeover,” said Planned Parenthood spokesman Angus McQuilken. “What voters need to know about Mitt Romney is this: where he stands on any issue is always a moving target.”

Romney reacts to photo:
+ Romney dismisses photo suggesting he attended Planned Parenthood event
dwedge@bostonherald.com

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Jeff, Bellingham, Washington — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 10:43:11 GMT

I agree with all of Eric's comments about Mitt Romney. He's a proven leader in business and in government. He's a clear thinker and knows how to build a team to solve difficult problems.

When Mike Huckabee started his campaign, I liked him even though he is far more fiscally liberal than I am. But, as a Baptist Minister, he knew very well what he was saying when he asked if Mormons believe that "Jesus and the devil are brothers." He knows that he is repeating anti-Mormon talking points that mischaracterize the Mormon faith. (In fact the Mormons never talk about a relationship between Jesus and the devil in those terms.) I can only conclude from his willingness to purposely lie about Romney's faith that he is a whited sepulchure and not a good man. I don't make that charge lightly. But to lie about another person's religion for political gain is bigotry of the worst kind and exploits the kind of hatred that resulted in the Spanish Inquisition, the English Civil War, the conflict in Northern Ireland and the persecution and massacre of Mormons in Missouri in the mid 1800s. Do not vote for Mike Huckabee. As a Republican, I would vote for Hillary Clinton first.

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J Rudd — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:15:13 GMT

I wonder how posts there will be between mine and Robert Jorgenson's next copy-paste blah blah blah anti-Mormon/anti-Romney contribution to First Read. Please, spare us this time Robert.

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MICK — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:18:59 GMT

Romney made his millions, with his 'buy-out firm.'

An 'investment firm' goes in and invests to help get a company back on its feet/higher up in the corporate food-chain. 'Buy-out firms,' "if you will"/Romney's newest over-used cliche'/ cripple a company, forcing its stock prices to fall, then buy up the stock until they own controlling interest, just to turn around and sell the company, often to foreign interests, as high as the market allows, creating a hefty profit for themselves at the expense of lost jobs/lost wages for thousands of Americans.

If you buy Romney calling his "buy-out firm" an "investment firm" he has more "Romney-tales" he'll sell you, too. It will only cost you 'America as we know it' for future generations.

Just because Romney can make a buck in the business world does NOT add up to being a leader of government. PLEASE check out Romney's Terrible Record as Massachusetts' governor. If Romney could NOT manage a small state, he sure CAN'T manage 50 states and the MYRIAD urgent PROBLEMS immediately facing the next president.

For those of you who don't know by now, during Romney's 4 years a governor, Massacusetts:

Was the ONLY STATE to post ZERO GAIN in EMPLOYEED RESIDENTS

Was 3RD from the BOTTOM in CREATING NEW JOBS (would've been 2ND from the BOTTOM but Louisiana was destroyed by Katrina)

Massachusetts' median home price ROSE 95% !! (40% for the nation for the same period)

222,000 !! MORE residents moved OUT of the fair state than moved in, during Romney's 4 years--the ONLY thing that kept MA's unemployment rates down.
(Center for Market Studies, Northwestern University, Boston Globe, 07/29/07).

Romney allowed his office to fund:

Gay/Lesbian SEX-ED--WITHOUT PARENTAL CONSENT OR NOTIFICATION--for Grade School children AS YOUNG AS KINDERGARTEN.
Again, Romney didn't have to fund this, but he did.

'Dances' for CHILDREN AS YOUNG AS 12 to 'meet up' with ADULT Gays/Lesbians/Transgenders/Bi-Sexuals.
Romney didn't have to fund these, but he did.

CHILDREN'S gay-pride-type parades where ADULT gays/lesbians... off the streets WERE ALLOWED TO JOIN IN, in full regalia.
Romney didn't have to do this, but he did.

BE SURE to check out http://www.massresistance.org
This is a Massachusetts Conservative group.
Click on "The Romney Deception" and other links down the pages for indepth, documented report of 'Romney's Reign' over Massachusetts.

HOW do Romney's business practices make a STRONGER AMERICA for the thousands of Americans who lose their jobs or are forced to take cuts in pay because of Romney's 'forced buy-outs' ??

HOW does Massachusetts' failing record during Romney-years recommend him for BUILDING A STRONGER AMERICAN ECONOMY ??

WHO thinks Romney's funding of 'gay/lesbian children's programs' helped raise FAMILY VALUES for THOSE American families, THOSE American children ??

If Romney canNOT maintain his composure when people just ask him questions regarding the religion HE BROUGHT into his campaign--NOT forthright with American voters in his religious claims (as in other 'Romney-claims'), without becoming hot under the collar, wound tight-ready to leave the room, impatient, rude, a vile name-caller, He SURE WON'T be able to hold up under the BIG-DOG Purposeful insults in the BIG-BOY International Political arena. THEY SURE WON'T care if Romney pouts or turns red in the face. Romney won't be able to hide behind the word 'religion' when he is being hounded and REALLY-persecuted by WORLD-media for Every political AND personal, religious, move he makes/AND the moves of his family--their good, never good enough and their bad, very bad. How often will America have to be embarrassed by Romney swinging his arms around stammering, red-faced, when THE WORLD doesn't see things his way? He WON'T be able vaunt, or to hide behind his RELIGION then, which has served him so well during his campaign. The WORLD won't care about Romney's religion, REGARDLESS the many LDS prophecies about LDS taking over the world.

Mike Huckabee was elected 4 TIMES to serve his state. And he left Arkansas in BETTER shape, for his time served. Instead of a long list of American companies he as shut down or sold out to foreign interests, he (and his wife) have a very long list of serving their community, their state--doing good simply for the sake of doing good.

John McCain also has a very long, very honorable, resume' of service to his country.

Think, America. This is the most important American presidential election in generations. Our next president MUST hit the ground running, able and ready to hold up Under Extreme Pressures on the home-front AND the international stage. We need to choose someone with Exceptional past governmental experience who is Level-Headed, who holds up under fire, who has Proven to NOT be a fickle-fly-by-night-power-monger, whose WORD withstands harsh scrutiny, who has already Proven to put America First. This is NOT Willard Mitt Romney.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 13:56:57 GMT

Got to win in both states?! Way to lower expectations there, Mitt, you're worse than "I WILL win" Clinton.

After the two of them lose this election, they should go be king and queen of an island somewhere, as royalty does not suffer for lack of authenticity or humility; granted, the name of the island will constantly change, with no one remembering any different, and the two of them will promise the citizens to be emperor of the galaxy by Wednesday (including drawing up detailed plans and power point presentations).

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Jarod, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:00:22 GMT

MICK, bringing up the fact that Huckabee was re-elected to the same state that gave us Jim Guy Tucker and Bill Clinton isn't a selling point for Mike. He even said that yesterday in his photo-op hunting schtick. It makes me laugh each time. Just proof that he's no conservative.

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Robert Jorgenson, Salt Lake City, Utah — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:46:56 GMT

Mormons are a Cult!

Mormons belive that when Christ died on the cross that it was not enough. And that you had to have Blood Atonement, I belive this comes from the Pitt of Hell!

Brigham Young Blood Atonement Sermon:
Journal of Discourses
Vol. 4, p. 215-221

and suppose that he is overtaken in a gross fault, that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding of his blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin, and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, "shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?"

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Stacey, Durham, NC — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:49:23 GMT

MICK, your comment sounds like it came from the socialists in the Democratic camp. Welcome to capitalism! Critics like to paint him as someone who fired people - probably just before Christmas right? Isn't that what goes through your mind. On one hand, did you ever stop to think of the countless number of American jobs that he SAVED by bringing companies back from the brink of bankruptcy? On the other hand, isn't this exactly the kind of thinking we need in Washington - someone who will cut waste? Think about what you just posted. Of course if you think ballooning deficits and massive fraud and waste in government are a good thing, let alone increasing the size of government - by all means, vote for the other guy. If you want change and someone who has PROVEN he can turn organizations around, there is only one candidate on either side of the isle that can and HAS done this - Willard Mitt Romney. Period.

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Robert Jorgenson, Salt Lake City, Utah — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 14:52:10 GMT

More Flip Flopping from Mitt Romney

How Gov. Mitt Romney started same-sex “marriage” in Massachusetts - despite what he says now!
Same-sex "marriage" is still NOT legal in Massachusetts, and was NOT created by the Supreme Judicial Court's Goodridge ruling.

Timeline documents Mitt Romney's role in creating same-sex "marriages."

In fact, it was Governor Mitt Romney who was ultimately responsible for same-sex "marriages" taking place. The Supreme Judicial Court only issued an opinion and advised the Legislature to act (which it never did). Even the Court acknowledged that it had no power to change the law.

Governor Romney created these "marriages" through an unconstitutional and illegal directive to his Department of Public Health (to print new "marriage" licenses), and through his legal counsel threatened to fire any Town Clerk or Justice of the Peace who failed to implement the (non-existent) "new law". He was not required by any constitutional mandate to do these things. On the contrary, his actions clearly violated his oath to uphold the laws of Massachusetts.

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Jarod, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:48 GMT

Robert, your drive-by-postings sound more like the efforts of a lunatic than someone who has a grip with reality. All of the points you bring up have been already answered in previous posts. Go back and do your homework.

MICK, I checked out the website and the points that you mentioned. None of which are true. Here's a rebuttal if you are interrested:

http://massresistancewatch.blogspot.com/

It's great that massresistance wants to make a change in that state. However, their characterization of Mitt is WAY off base. One of the most laughable (it was hard to pick because they all sounded deranged) was them claiming he personally appointed liberal judges. The fact is he was working in a MUCH more liberal state than just about any other out there. Back that up with a wonderful endorsement below and it takes all the air out of your contention. Mitt Romney is exactly what the conservative movement needs at this time! Conservatives have him to thank that things didn't get worse in Massachusetts. He was on the front-line in that battle and proved himself time and time again. History has already proven this.
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Saturday, Dec 15, 2007

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
CONTACT: Romney Press Shop (857) 288-6390

Boston, MA – Today, noted conservative jurist Judge Robert Bork endorsed Governor Mitt Romney for President of the United States.

Joining Romney for President, Judge Bork said, "Throughout my career, I have had the honor of serving under several Presidents and am proud to make today's endorsement. No other candidate will do more to advance the conservative judicial movement than Governor Mitt Romney. He knows firsthand how the judicial branch can profoundly affect the future course of a state and a nation. I greatly admired his leadership in Massachusetts in the way that he responded to the activist court's ruling legalizing same-sex 'marriage.' His leadership on the issue has served as a model to the nation on how to respect all of our citizens while respecting the rule of law at the same time."

Judge Bork continued, "Our next President may be called upon to make more than one Supreme Court nomination, and Governor Romney is committed to nominating judges who take their oath of office seriously and respect the rule of law in our nation. I also support Governor Romney because of his character, his integrity and his stands on the major issues facing the United States."

Welcoming Judge Bork's support, Governor Romney said, "For decades, Judge Bork has been a leader in moving the conservative legal movement forward. As one of our nation's premier conservative jurists, he has been an important voice for our conservative values in Washington. I look forward to his counsel and working with him on the most important judicial matters facing our nation today."

Background On Judge Robert Bork:

Judge Bork Is A Leading Conservative Jurist With A Long Record Of Public Service. Judge Bork served as Solicitor General from 1973 to 1978 and acting Attorney General from 1973 to 1974. From 1982 to 1988, he served as a Circuit Judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit. On July 1, 1987, he was nominated by President Ronald Reagan to the position of Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States. In February 1988, Judge Bork resigned from the Circuit Court and joined the American Enterprise Institute. Judge Bork, who also served as a partner at a major law firm and a Professor of Law at Yale University, is currently a Distinguished Fellow at the Hudson Institute and a Professor at the Ave Maria School of Law.

http://www.mittromney.com/News/Press-Releases/Endorsement_Bork

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Jarod, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:29:33 GMT

Wrong link there - here's the rebuttal:

http://www.evangelicalsformitt.org/massresistance

Enjoy!

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Jarod, Raleigh, NC — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:42:46 GMT

Here, I'll make it easy for you:

SAME-SEX “MARRIAGE”
From the moment the activist judges in the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court handed down their breathtakingly arrogant decision in Goodridge v. Department of Public Health, the Governor took strong and consistent actions to defend marriage. He also took decisive action to make sure his state would not grant marriage licenses to out of state couples, thereby guaranteeing that Massachusetts would not become the “Las Vegas of gay marriage” (as he called it) and trigger a constitutional crisis as couples returned to their home states with Massachusetts licenses. He also initiated and led an effort to amend the Massachusetts constitution by referendum and has gone so far as to file suit against the Commonwealth’s own legislature after it took action to prevent the people of Massachusetts from voting on that amendment—a suit that resulted in the legislature complying with its constitutional responsibilities and sending the marriage amendment on to the next stage of the ratification process.

Critically, he has become a leading national advocate for marriage, with his optimistic and uplifting message dominating the public debate. Rather than casting the debate as one over adult rights, the Governor has made the best possible case for marriage, noting what we all should know but too often forget (at great cultural cost): Marriage does not exist for the convenience and enjoyment of adults, but as the best possible way of raising and nurturing children. The credible defenders of marriage in Massachusetts all agree, and through their own statement they have recently and emphatically made their feelings clear: Mitt Romney has been an invaluable supporter and advocate.

Yet despite this record, MassResistance claims that Mitt Romney actually enabled gay marriage by not defying the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts—in other words, by not breaking the law. In a truly baffling bit of legal reasoning, MassResistance argues that the court ruling “simply advised the Legislature to pass legislation codifying its opinion on changing the marriage statutes” and that Governor Romney was therefore “not bound to enforce same-sex marriage prior to legislative action.” This is simply an incorrect reading of the decision. Here is what the Supreme Judicial Court actually said: “We construe civil marriage to mean the voluntary union of two persons as spouses, to the exclusion of all others.” In other words, the court itself changed the definition of marriage. The reference to legislative action in the opinion merely gave the legislature a chance to amend the law to state what the court already said it meant. This was not advising the legislature; it was changing the law. Any governor who defied this decision risked contempt of court. Rather than becoming what the media would undoubtedly call the “George Wallace of gay marriage” by standing in the courthouse door and barring couples from receiving marriage licenses, the Governor chose legal means to resist the court’s decision.
And his decision was correct. It is now clear that the Goodridge decision represented not the beginning of the end of traditional marriage but what may well be the high-water mark of the same-sex marriage movement. Since that decision, homosexual marriage activists have been on the defensive virtually everywhere, losing referenda and losing court decisions. Had Governor Romney not offered a principled and effective defense of marriage, the outcome may very well have been quite different.
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Bottom line, you owe Mitt an apology. And if you think a Marriage should be between a man and a woman, you owe Mitt a lot of thanks.

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Robert Jorgenson, Salt Lake City, Utah — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:46:38 GMT

Please GOOGLE this scripture from the LDS and you will see this is the words from there prophet. Do not just take my word this is LDS to the Hilt.

Mormons are a Cult!

Mormons belive that when Christ died on the cross that it was not enough. And that you had to have Blood Atonement, I belive this comes from the Pitt of Hell!

Brigham Young Blood Atonement Sermon:
Journal of Discourses
Vol. 4, p. 215-221

and suppose that he is overtaken in a gross fault, that he has committed a sin that he knows will deprive him of that exaltation which he desires, and that he cannot attain to it without the shedding of his blood, and also knows that by having his blood shed he will atone for that sin, and be saved and exalted with the Gods, is there a man or woman in this house but what would say, "shed my blood that I may be saved and exalted with the Gods?"

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jessie, West Virgnia — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:18:24 GMT

Romney is the most qualified candidate for presidency. Vote Mitt :)

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Phil Edwards, Aberdeen, NC — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:46:06 GMT

Robert, you always seem to show up with your usual maniacal rhetoric. By now, you should have realized that your rantings only serve to make the adults turn away from you wondering where your parents are. Please confine your comments to the issues at hand and, if you have so much free time, check out that really good evangelicalsformitt web site and find out WHY so many Christian evangelicals are supporting Mitt Romney. Some people actually have the ability to see beyond the trees and see the forest. By attacking Mitt Romney, you are cutting off your nose to spite your own face.

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JS, Mass — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:52:03 GMT

Romney: A seldom-seen governor of Mass, who disappeared halfway through his single term, as he became infected with "presidential virus." Left the Mass. Republican party a smoking ruin; had absolutely no chance of a second term.

A "business genius"? then let him run WalMart - the perfect position for a man with the mindset of a mid-level bureaucrat, a persona of long-chain polymers, and principles of uncommon elasticity.

Romney in the Oval Office? Good Grief, Charlie Brown, what are you smoking?

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jessie, West Virgninia — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:59:37 GMT

Mormon religion is not a "cult" Mr. Jorgenson. The church has 13 million members worldwide. What caused you to have so much hatred to the Mormons? I am a member of the church--and I am proud of what I believe. The name "Mormon" is just a nickname of the church. The official name of the "church" is--The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and Jesus Christ himself is the "Chief Cornerstone of the church." Just like any human being; we are not perfect, but we are trying to follow the teachings of Christ everyday in our lives. If you claim for yourself to be a "genuine Christian"--Now, you can "throw a rock" on us...seeing that you are the only perfect human being alive. Read in 1 John 1:8 says, "If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." There is one greatest commandment that Christ has given us--and that's to "Love our neighbors us ourselves." He told us that in order to be his true "disciple" that we should "love one another" and to love and pray for "our enemy." If you need a better a understand about the "Mormons" then, get the right understanding to make your "judgement" correct. "Pure understanding brings good judgement, as well as greater wisdom." Have a delightful day:)

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Kira, Utah — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:40:05 GMT

The journal of discourses is not scripture, FYI.

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The Prophet — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:16:06 GMT

Romney claims that he will be independent of his church’s leadership.

He keeps telling us that the LDS leadership respect the separation of Church and State and encourage independent thought on all matters spiritual and civil.

But there's a problem.

The LDS prophets have always taught that there is no separation between the 'spiritual' (i.e. religion) and the 'temporal' (everything else).

Ezra Taft Benson ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ezra_Taft_Benson ) the leader of the Mormon church from 1985 to 1994 repeated these teaching in absolute clarity.

In this presentation Benson quotes many other LDS prophets, including Mitt Romney's cousin Marion Romney.

Yup, that's right, Mitt's cousin was as the LDS say, a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator.

Mitt is blessed to also include Parly P. Pratt, Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and one of the founders of Mormonism as an ancestor.

Not too shabby, two of Gods Prophets in his family tree.

"FOURTEEN FUNDAMENTALS IN FOLLOWING THE PROPHET
BY
ELDER Ezra Taft Benson
February 26, 1980

...

Ninth: The prophet can receive revelation on any matter--temporal or spiritual.

Said Brigham Young:

Some of the leading men in Kirtland were much opposed to Joseph the Prophet, meddling with temporal affairs... .

In a public meeting of the Saints, I said, "Ye Elders of Israel.... will some of you draw the line of demarcation, between the spiritual and temporal in the Kingdom of God, so that I may understand it?" Not one of them could do it....

I defy any man on earth to point out the path a Prophet of God should walk in, or point out his duty, and just how far he must go, in dictating temporal or spiritual things. Temporal and spiritual things are inseparably connected, and ever will be. [Journal of Discourses, 10:363-364]

Tenth: The prophet may be involved in civic matters.

When a people are righteous they want the best to lead them in government. Alma was the head of the Church and of the government in the Book of Mormon,
Joseph Smith was mayor of Nauvoo, and Brigham Young was governor of Utah. Isaiah was deeply involved in giving counsel on political matters and of his words the Lord Himself said, "Great are the words of Isaiah" (3 Nephi 23:1). Those who would remove prophets from politics would take God out of government."

Benson goes on to say:

"Fourteenth: The prophet and the presidency--the living prophet and the First Presidency--follow them and be blessed; reject them and suffer."

As for the idea that Mormons are free to follow their own best reasoning in 'spiritual' matters, Benson quotes a previous LDS President, Prophet, Seer, and Revelator, N. Eldon Tanner,

"The Prophet spoke out clearly on Friday moming, telling us what our responsibilities are... .

A man said to me after that, "You know, there are people in our state who believe in following the Prophet in everything they think is right, but when it is something they think isn't right, and it doesn't appeal to them, then that's different." He said, "Then they become their own prophet. They decide what the Lord wants and what the Lord doesn't want."

I thought how true, and how serious when we begin to choose which of the covenants, which of the commandments we will keep and follow. When we decide that there are some of them that we will not keep or follow, we are taking the law of the Lord into our own hands and become our own prophets, and believe me, we will be led astray, because we are false prophets to ourselves when we do not to follow the Prophet of God. No, we should never discriminate between these commandments, as to those we should and should not keep. [In Conference Report, October 1966, p. 98]"

Full text of the speech is reproduced here -> http://www.lds-mormon.com/fourteen.shtml

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qantog, Ogden, UT — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:34:14 GMT

Mitt Romney is in the world to serve one person, Mitt Romney. It's not Jesus, It's not Joseph Smith (founder of Mormonism), it's not the people of this country. He's out to serve himself. He's a man with nowhere to go. Hundreds of millions of dollars in his pocket and no soul. His quest for the White House and willingness to serve gratis manifest both his gargantuan ego and desire to fill up his empty core. Perhaps by attaining the nation's highest public office he believes he can make up for the trash heaps of jobs lost in his surge to line his own pockets. His "say anything to get elected" campaign reeks of desperation. Desperation at the center of his being. Hope that for once in his life to do something good for a change. I hope he finds redemption, but not at the expense of the American people.

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jessie, West Virginia — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 01:59:23 GMT

I don't think Mitt Romney is "saying anything to get elected." Generalization of one's character (Mitt) is an indication of someone's lack of understanding and good judgement. Mitt is a good family man, who loves God, the people, and this country. :)

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Wayne — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:21:29 GMT

Mick, you had my attention in your post until you dragged in the Religion.

Jorgenson, nothing you ever say (post) will have credibility. You hate Mormons. Romney is a Mormon. Thus you will attack Romney because he is a Mormon.

To all readers. If you come across a Jorgenson post, know that it is anti-mormon (religion?). Romney's candidacy is simply a medium by which Jorgenson can spread a hate message.

Thanks to all who actually stay on topic.

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Strip and Flip — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 05:49:51 GMT

Stripping and flipping corporate assets is the exact opposite of good management.

This is not how you build a nation's economy.

These are not the 'skills' that our country needs.

The Mormon stuff is just plain sad. Magic underwear, secret handshakes, their pantheon of gods, the lost tribes of Israel coming to the Americas in

magic boats, polygamy, a history of institutionalized racism ...

The only way I'm voting for a guy who wears magic underwear is if he's got a cape and big red S on his chest.

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hugh swan idaho falls, idaho 83402 — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:08:55 GMT

why oh why are draft dodgers such as Romney so gung ho military?