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Norman Wishman, Norcross, Ga — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:52:25 GMT

The question you should be asking, is Bush's statement that the election should continue, appropriate at this time? With such turmoil going on, I canm't see it.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:53:38 GMT

Why the rush to "Democratic Elections" in Pakistan? Osaba bin Laden has a 48% approval rating, higher than Musharaf, Bhutto or Sharif. Right now, one of the several Islamist parties would win the election. I think Sen. Biden ought to think about that. And I think Gov. Richardson is an ass to think that Musharaf should resign.

Honestly, do ANY of these clowns actually live in the real world?

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--NSMsnbc — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:54:34 GMT

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:05:59 GMT

You have to wonder if some of the other candidates would even know who Bhutto was without their staff to supply them with the information. (Hint: Huckabee)

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American Voter — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:15:17 GMT

Why would President Musharaf take time to listen to diatribe from a gas bag like Biden? He's just not that important.

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aksat — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:19:45 GMT

Hello Carrie, Eastern Ia
Can you tell me how is the situation on the ground in IA. Thank you

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Lynne, Florida — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:20:50 GMT

The ever honest, ever eloquent, Joe Biden. This is a candidate this country truly needs to put in the WH. Here's a man who knows foreign policy, inside out, and MSNBC totally failed to cover his press conference, and instead was more interested in what Ghouliani had to say. Like we care what Rudy thinks. he's a ZERO.

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Doles, Miami, FL — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:21:34 GMT

"'This fall," he told reporters, "I twice urged President Musharraf to provide her with better security." He added, “The failure to protect Mrs. Bhutto raises a lot of hard questions for the government and the security services that have to be answered.'"
Although Joe Biden is my candidate, this is why I am turned off by the conventional thinking. It is not about how much experience you have when it comes to dealing with other countries. It is about how you approach them. Just telling them what you want does not always do it.

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Lynne, Florida — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:22:33 GMT

Bruce, I think you need to get a clue. You don't see the big picture here.

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Lynne, Florida — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:24:09 GMT

American Voter/right winger, have anything of value to add, or are you just here to show all of us your ignorance?

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Dave, Tn — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:25:28 GMT

Didn't she turn down extra guards? Pretty sure I saw that on PBS's News Hour

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Scott, PA — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:29:05 GMT

It's called elect the LEADER. The only one leading us is Biden. He proves this by being ahead of the fray and directing our attention to the real matters of importance.
Sept. 10th, 2001 he made an impassioned speech about the need for security from terrorism. He has been the most outspoken candidate against the Iraq war policies from the day it started.
Biden changed the subject from the "HUGE IRAN" dilemma to focus that the real threats laid in Pakistan, this, during a live debate no-less.(NO ONE was talking about Pakistan at that time).
He voted NO to designate the Revolutionary Guard a terrorist org. and now we know that there is no nuclear capability. Any sanctions can be given at any time and this designation was not needed (also, they were already being sanctioned!).
He knows the moderate majorities in these countries and understands how to keep them in power.
He has been calling for action in Darfur and it is still a genocidal atrocity.
He was the one of the few people to plan the Dayton Accords which helped to bring peace to Bosnia and the Serbs and Croatians.
Biden has used his proven leadership and experience to develop a plan for Iraq to help keep us out of Iraq. He is the only one with a PLAN for this (it is also spelled out in the Iraqi constitution). It has received overwhelming support from the Senate and has been passed and now awaits Bush's signature.
What other candidate on either side receives this much respect from the Senate? 75 votes people! On the most contentious issue of the day. He has the trust of Congress (which represents the people), he should also have our trust to lead us. The only way to get any domestic issues passed is to get the boulder settled (Iraq) and focus on uniting congress, which only Biden has PROVEN he can do. He has proven his leadership to us, please let's vote for proven leadership.

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Lynne, Florida — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:31:49 GMT

Doles, he's not in a position to force Bush to do anything. No one is. Obviously, if he were the president things would have been much different. If you haven't done so, I would direct you to his website, where you can read his plan for Pakistan.

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Dennis, NJ — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:38:49 GMT

The tragic Bhutto assassination underscores the fact that we need Joe Biden as our next president. Pakistan is on the precipice of complete turmoil - an event that could have enormous reverberations throughout the world. Joe Biden is the only democratic candidate who has the experience and standing to hit the ground running in '08. This isn't a time for on the job training, the stakes are simply too high. I find it dumbfounding that someone like John Edwards, who couldn't even his own home state in the last national election, is getting so much play. John seems like a nice guy and all, but not the guy I want to have representing my country in meetings with Musharraf, et. al.

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Steve Green,Sioux City,Iowa — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:40:16 GMT

First,I would like to extend my sympathy to the family of Benazir Bhutto! Secondly,I would take this time to commend Senator Biden on his campaign ,and the lack thereoff from coverage from all the major media! Before I read this article on Senator Bidens response to this tragedy,I had seen at least 6 others with a whole host of all the front runners comments, and cannot believe that Joe Bidens was not even included or at the top of the list. As a proud supporter of Joe Biden,I have had the pleasure,along with my 14 year old daughter to meet and listen to Joe,and firmly believe in my heart that I would put my country ,my life,and my daughters safety and well being in to Joe Bidens hands before ever trusting any or all the other candidates to do so. 2 weeks ago ,while Joe was here in town,he told all here at his thoughts about Pakistan,and the turmoil taking place there,and warned of just such an event as what has just happened! All the others(BOTH PARTIES)preach and boast of their experience,but if you want to learn what true experience is,you had better go back to school!! Biden 101 !!! Thanks,and God Bless America.!!

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Pat Huntington NY — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:53:50 GMT

JOE BIDEN FOR SECRETARY OF STATE in the next Democratic administration.

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pat huntington ny — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:54:42 GMT

Bruce, NV you are a knucklehead for that post.

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CLINT, SAN FRAN — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 20:59:02 GMT

NEWSWEEK'S MICHAEL HIRSCH 12-27-07 REINFORCES BIDEN:

"Upon her return to Pakistan last October after eight years in exile, Bhutto had written a letter to Musharraf—and saw to it that it was hand-delivered—warning him that if she were killed he should investigate certain officials in his government. Bhutto and her top security officials had complained repeatedly about the lax security provided by Musharraf's government. In recent days, as she stepped out for political rallies more and more ahead of the scheduled Jan. 8 national elections, her aides had warned that the jammers supplied to them by the government—intended to stop remote-controlled bomb devices—weren't working properly."

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Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:00:09 GMT

Carrie, Eastern IA or should I say Carrie Dann? Will you stop at nothing?!?! How shameless to post a thread on Biden, then I have no doubt you will comment on the thread too. There can only be one! ; )
--NSMsnbc (Sent Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:54 PM)

LOL. I got offended for a minute but then I remembered - there is ONLY one Carrie in all of Iowa.

Thanks for the laugh.

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Jim Portland Oregon — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:17:26 GMT

Mr. Biden does have the experience and the knowledge to lead this country and America should wake up and see how good he would be for this country at this time.

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Clint, California — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:18:36 GMT

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--NSMsnbc — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:36:41 GMT

[JOE BIDEN FOR SECRETARY OF STATE in the next Democratic administration.
Pat Huntington NY]
--This always seems like a strange comment to me. What role would people request for Clinton or Obama or Edwards? None! My point exactly. If we wouldn't offer these positions, why are we willing to offer the Presidency? And if we trust Joe Biden's judgement that much, why wouldn't we simply want him for President? It defies logic.

Bruce, NV makes some interesting points. But that's the Republican half of me talking. Different viewpoints should be welcomed.

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Doles, Miami, FL — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:40:33 GMT

Lynne wrote, "Doles, he's not in a position to force Bush to do anything. No one is. Obviously, if he were the president things would have been much different. If you haven't done so, I would direct you to his website, where you can read his plan for Pakistan."
Lynne, I have followed and done some homework on Biden. I truly believe he would be a fine President. However without a different approach, it wouldn't matter who said what to Musharraf. Sometimes it's not about what you say, it's how you say it. Personally, I believe both Musharraf and Bhutto are corrupt, however this begs the question. The reality is, you're either fighting for real democracy or you're just looking for your own interests. In the case of the US, most of these people, fairly or not, see the latter. Ultimately, we're either going to kill all of them or using different approach. When Obama said he would "speak to some of those leaders", people saw a new approach that recognizes these are people. They may be bad but some of them were elected by their people. Now, I do not have to like you in order to have a conversation. Honestly I do not believe that would make a president look weak.

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Kevin, SF CA — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:07:30 GMT

Funny how we now seeing Edwards just now getting into the Pakistan game. I didn't hear a peep out of him on this, and how he's claiming he's talked with Musharraf. Disgusting. We know who actually DOES speak with not just the Pakistani leaders, but leaders all around the world as part of his job.

Biden for president.

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independent, fl — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:08:04 GMT

Joe Biden is the only logical and viable candidate for the democratic nomination and for the upcoming general election. No other candidate even comes close to having his experience, integrity, and wisdom. Not to mention his ability to stay focused on the issues, particularly when it comes to comparing him to the other candidates who have spent the majority of their campaigns fighting each other and acting like a pack of juveniles (particularly the Obama and Clinton camps) neither of which impress me in the least. Joe Biden is the only sensible choice the dems have - but they'll screw it up again...wait and see...and I'll have to vote republican because I absolutely refuse to vote for Obama. Without Biden as the nominee (maybe John Edwards) the White House goes back to the republicans...guaranteed.

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Bruce, NV — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:19:37 GMT

Lynne, Please supply me with a clue.

Pakistan is 1/2 islamist. they have 100+ nuclear weapons. If an election were held right now, there is a very good chance a jihadist government would win.

Now, rather than throwing one-line cliches around, why don't you explain how I'm not seeing the big picture?

And perhaps Pat will explain why I'm a knucklehead. Neither of you has addressed the statements in my post. Until you do, i'll have to assume that you are just partisans reading off of your talking points memo.

Cheers.

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Sara, Cedar Rapids, Iowa — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:29:14 GMT

JOE BIDEN FOR SECRETARY OF STATE in the next Democratic administration.

Pat Huntington NY

If you want Biden's leadership, which the world needs, it has to be as President. He will either be the nominee or return to the Senate.

Hello Carrie, Eastern Ia
Can you tell me how is the situation on the ground in IA. Thank you

aksat

As EJ Dionne said Sunday on "This Week..." No one knows whats going on in Iowa.

The race is fluid, and I've got to get back to helping Joe.

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Lori Mordini, West Des Moines, Iowa — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:30:19 GMT

Joe Biden is the right person at the right time with the right message. Leadership and statemanship all in one fine package. I'm standing with Joe Biden on caucus night. JOE BIDEN ALL THE WAY!!

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docrock,tx — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 22:40:44 GMT

American Voter,Don't look now,but your ignorance is showing.Surely you must not understand the definition of diatribe.Joseph Biden is not only a vet,he has a son in harms way.His delivery is eloquent,and he is intelligent as well.You must be a plant from Obiwama or Billary.Personally,you sound like a gas bag.

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Matt, NV — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:17:06 GMT

Bruce, NV......I say forget about the Pakistani elections, forget bringing so-called "Democracy" to the world, and forget trying to brainwash the world to live like us. I mean, all they really have to look forward too are massive deficits, disfuntional intelligence, invading soverign nations in the name of "national security", and so-on and so-forth.

Ya know, some of us have been jumping up and down since 911 that Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran are our biggest issues internationally. The fact that we have invaded Iraq, jumped in bed with a dictator in Musharif and played patty cake with Iran tells me that the current administration has it ALL WRONG. Anyone that thinks like Bush & Co. should be sent to Guantanamo Bay.

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Lori, Central CA — Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:48:00 GMT

I am a Biden supporter and need to clarify the above post. Biden is not a vet. He was rejected for health reasons, but would have been eligible to serve in case of national emergency. His son Beau is in the Army National Guard and is scheduled to go to Iraq in 2008.

On a note relating to the story, when I heard that Bhutto was assassinated this morning, it meant more to me than it had before because I have been learning from Joe Biden about the importance of Pakistan. I'm glad he held this press conference today. This needs to be talked about in this campaign.

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Rhj — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:02:19 GMT

I have read posts here before from obama supporters suggesting that his nomination would bring the country together, whereas clinton would be too polarizing. I'm amazed by this. I am a registered republican and would vote for neither. I know of no republicans in favor of obama.
Clinton and obama are nothing more than ultra-leftwing media creations. To me, they are both pandering sell-outs and I have no confidence in their ability to lead this country.
However, monthes ago, I watch Joe Biden for the first time, on Meet the Press. I didn't know at the time who he was. But, I did like his plan about Iraq. I don't care whether he's rep. or dem., He seems to be the steady, calm, intelligent voice of reason that we need for this country right now. I would vote for him in a second, if he had the nod. But, unfortunately he's not black nor female, so he doesn't represent the "change" the media tells you dems. that you need.

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MEG Clayton, NE — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 00:27:55 GMT

American Voter: Regarding your post --

Why would President Musharaf take time to listen to diatribe from a gas bag like Biden? He's just not that important

You may not be aware that Biden is the Chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee - a very powerful position. And Musharraf phoned Biden to discuss policy BEFORE he spoke with Bush. That's why Musharraf would take the time to speak with Biden - he values his insight and expertise.

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HMT-MI — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:02:25 GMT

the media has not selected Biden to be president-----

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Lynne, Florida — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:43:29 GMT

Doles, Biden talks to Musharraf all the time. He also spoke Bhutto frequently, he had a staff member with her last night, and speaks to all the world leaders when needed. If you think there is some weakness in Joe, then perhaps you aren't seeing the big picture either. I'm sure if Joe were the president, he would have handled this a LONG time ago. I have no idea of where you think Biden has somehow made this worse,(as you implied) but I think you are WAY off base.

None of the other candidates have his experience, or knowledge of foreign policy, and underlying in your post is an clandestine compliment for Obama, the Junior Senator.

Go ahead and vote for Obama, but it will cost the democrats the election. I'm an Independent, and Joe Biden was the first, and last choice I will support. he has not only EARNED the WH, he deserves it.

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Lynne, Florida — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:59:58 GMT

Well,your post is really nonsensical, and not well thought out, but left me get my decoder ring out;

Why the rush to "Democratic Elections" in Pakistan?

>>Because Musharraf is trying to be a dictator? Because they are suppose to have a democracy?? Yah think??

Osaba bin Laden has a 48% approval rating, higher than Musharaf, Bhutto or Sharif.

>>Well, and the US pays Pakistan, 10 MILLION dollars a month to GET OBL, and so far nothing. But, why would they? Musharraf isn't going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg. OBL has the some support from the Pakistani's, the radical side. And, according to Joe, who I'm sure knows more than you do, Bhutto would have won the election easily, hence her murder today.

Right now, one of the several Islamist parties would win the election.

>>I don't think there will be elections for a while. Once a candidate from Bhutto's party emerges, there will be. Did I mention that Pakistan is suppose to have democracy?

I think Sen. Biden ought to think about that.

>>I think Sen. Biden has thought about it, and, again, I'm sure he knows a LOT more about this than, some armchair quarterback sitting in the Nevada desert.

And I think Gov. Richardson is an ass to think that Musharaf should resign.

>>I will agree on this one. Biden also disagreed, and so did Dodd.

Honestly, do ANY of these clowns actually live in the real world?

>>>Do you? I bet you're a neocon. Don't bother to reply, I'm not wasting anymore time on stupid people like you, who think they know what's best for the world.

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John, Port Townsend, Washington — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:06:43 GMT

Beyond his competency, I like the respect that Joe consistently displays for other candidates in the primary, his personal charm, and his human values. The face of 'O' -- as Atlantic noted -- would be amazing PR from South America to the Middle East to Central Asia, but I fear that he's an actor in the Reagan mold (tho with more cranial substance) and ultimately would become a pawn of the corporates as Ms Nepotism already is.

Joe bespeaks competence to the entire world at a time that is crucial to the flagging health of our planet, the economies of our nations, and the relations of our states.

And HE IS VERY ELECTABLE.

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John, Port Townsend, Washington — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 05:21:53 GMT

Bruce, NV, you apparently don't know that 80% of the "Islamists" in Pakistan are moderate and believe in secular democracy, that the right-wing "Islamists" today have just one city/county government in their control, and that their is NO evidence that the party supporting the Taliban in West Pakistan can win an election.

In other words, treat the Pakistani culture as peer adults. It's neo-con hubris to view them as children susceptible to the hate mongering from their right wing.

Oh, and call them "Muslims" will ya? Your "Islamist" label is a nasty code-word for a world-wide campaign that happens to be a fantasy scenario -- are you (unwittingly for sure) sowing fear?

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Harmony — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 14:39:31 GMT

The inspiration and leadership of Obama = President
The domestic/senate strength of Edwards = Vice president
The Foreign Affairs Expertise of Biden = Sec. of State
Foreign Relations Savvy of Dodd = Chairman of Foreign Relations or Sec of Defense

What a dream team!

What do you guys think?

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bc Indiana — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 15:01:21 GMT

The self aggrandizing rush by all candidates to "qualify" themselves on this issue is cartoonish at best and obscene at worst.

Let the currently elected government deal with it.

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Elizabeth Sullivan, San Diego, CA — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:02:38 GMT

Harmony -

No. Why put the two LEAST EXPERIENCED candidates at the top of the ticket? Your boy Obama is a novice and not ready for the big time. Biden and Dodd will return to the Senate and Mr. Obama can figure this out himself. He has been crapping on everyone's experience as unimportant so why would he need it once he is President? According to his supporters he is Jesus Christ, MLK, and Shaq all in one.

Why is it that Obama supporters don't think experience matters but then want BIDEN and DODD to lend their gravitas and experience.

Maybe OBAMA can appoint people to the cabinet who have the same amount of experience as he does. How does that sound?

Wait, that is the current administration. Guess OBAMA isn't about change after all.

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Adam, Sacramento — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:27:37 GMT

Well better late to the party than never present. Biden has been in position to talk about an ever deteriorating situation in pakistan for years, he just started now. My concern with Biden is he always talks about the obvious truths only after it has become politically advantageous to do so. If he is as smart as all of you seem to believe and as I also believe how did he get fooled by Bush's case for war in Iraq? Why didn't he consider the predictable impacts on pakistan's internal politics of that war then? An inconvenient question he hasn't been forced to answer along with the other "foreign policy" experts who voted for it. He talks now about looking at the whole picture with Iran and Pakistan why didn't he do it then?

That said he clearly is a more qualified candidate than any of the top 3.

To those that think calling for Musharraf's resignation is irresponsible ask yourself does removing a president destroy their political party. The reality of pakistan is Musharaf can be replaced with another like minded general not seen to be in the US pocket. That would help. Likewise there is still enough margin to control a transfer of power to a suitably pleasing candidate. His resignation handled by a competent administration would not necessarily be a bad thing. Whether it's quite the time for it is debatable.

With or without Musharraf the military still wears the pants in pakistan. He wouldn't still be alive if enough of them didn't agree with his policy of US appeasement. He is expendable if we do it in a controlled fashion. It's not like the military dissolves if he disappears from public life and the longer we leave him be there is always the risk an extremist sympathizer faction of the military will do it to resounding applause from moderates and extremists alike. Might be better to have a sympathizer to us get that applause.

remember Under Musharaff Khan sold nuclear secrets rather openly and got a slap on the wrist. He didn't let us get Bin Laden if he is in pakistan, his military made no credible move on taliban sympathizers. Bombers in europe were still getting trained and assistance from pakistan sympathizers. In short Musharaf other than not being a taliban extremist with nukes has done very little other than collect 10 Billion in military aid designed to fight India more than terrorism. I think we could cut the same lax deal with any number of military officers if we do it before public sentiment runs so high against the military and musharaff that moderates join the taliban extremest factions rather than unite with the military.

Musharaff is the devil we know perhaps it is time to find a devil perceived less attached to us in an effort to calm the moderates many of whom are probably wondering did Musharraf kill Bhutto? And many are likely convinced he either did directly or indirectly. He is after all still alive despite being a much higher value target to the extremists.

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Harmony — Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:32:41 GMT

Elizabeth,
I don't believe that experience is everything. I, like many Obama supporters feel that the wisdom, abilities to lead and sound judgement trump experience. Many people have experience, but that doesn't make them the best leader. I feel Obama will bring the best team together and as a great leader, he will enhance their abilities and organize them to work together to take advantage of their talents.
In this I beleive Obama has no peer.

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Steve, New Hampshire — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:43:24 GMT

"I don't believe that experience is everything."
-----------------------------------------------

Give me a break. You may feel confident about gambling on this election, but i'm not. To suggest that wisdom and sound judgement are more important than practical experience is vastly naive. Experience and judgement are not mutually exclusive. One is basically meaningless without the other. People make mistakes. The people who criticize like to do so without knowing the facts. Joe Biden had strong reservations about Iraq from the very start. His only mistake regarding Iraq was miscalculating how much influence Cheney and Rumsfeld had on Bush. There was nothing in 1441 that said "we're going to just rush to war." I'm frankly tired of hearing Senator Biden dragged through the mud for it. He has proved that you can oppose the war and help keep our troops safe at the same time. He has consistently voted for funding-even pushing for the Mine Resistent Vehicles that cut IED casualties by 70%, while he came up with a well thought out, detailed plan to leave Iraq stable that passed with bi-partisan support.

Also, Adam, to say "he just started now" isn't true. He's considered Pakistan dangerous for years, and has been saying so as a candidate for months, while everyone else was talking about Iran and Iraq.

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Jeff Tannen — Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:18:16 GMT

Joe Biden is the only candidate who is truly viable at this time. It is a nagging and frustrating notion that this incredibly intelligent, highly experienced senate veteran is in the low tier of candidates. I cannot, refuse to accept that he is a'wind bag' or' loose cannon' as some have said. Are we that superficial that we cannot get beyond some of the unfortunate occurences from the 80's or the innocent remark about Obama as 'clean and articulate' which seem to still haunting people's opinion of him. In every debate he has been more articulate, succinct and obviously aware of the flaws that have nagged at him. This is the mark of a man who learns and is responsible and yet he is not even in the running. I am so deeply frustrated. We are passing up a 'jewel' a 'diamond in the ruff' for this upstart Obama or old school Clintonianism --wake up people or is it too late. I wish I could just shake the nation and get them out of their ignorant unconciousness. Where Biden is concerned there isn['e even a contest as far as I'm concerned.
J.T
Sherman Oaks