Romney v. Obama

Tuck, realityville, ks — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:04:10 GMT

obviously , mitt needs, no must , win iowa . so must obama. neither of these effete,nonmilitary , no contact,office sitting ,tailored boys can afford to let a verbal challange go unanswered.

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Pat Huntington NY — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:11:11 GMT

Flip flopping Rommney, the one term unremarkable governor of Massachusettes, is not qualified to be president. Question, if his business success makes him qualified according to republicans, where were you when you supported Bush II, who failed at every business he touched? Again, the total republican hypocracy machine at work.

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kisha — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:11:20 GMT

Just what we need another indecisive north eastern liberal/conservative depending on the campaign candidate.
Flippin Mitt
Mitt the flip
Mitt Phony
Needs to worry about his own campaign.

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Cory — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:53:45 GMT

Romney is cleary the best candidate for the GOP as he is the only one doing well in all the key primary states. This is because he is the best candidate! He got a brain and he is not afraid to admit when he made a mistake a change course. We should applaud this in politics.
Romney is who we need to turn aroung the US gov. and cut out all the waste just as he has done in previous large companies and in Mass. as Gov.
ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT!!!

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Renna — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:02:41 GMT

I think it has been journalistically negligent to mischaraterize the ads that detail documented records for both Huckabee and McCain - I have yet to hear either of them dispute even one of the claims - they simply dance around the issues and label Gov. Romney as "dishonest" - well what could be more liberal about that behavior? - liberals are known to dance around the issues and blame their opposition all of the time - symbolism with no substance.McCain and Huckabee are more liberal than anyone knew. In politics and campaigning, opponents are bound to showcase the differences they have and would be foolish not to do that. Gov. Romeny provided fact checks for each claim - how much more honest can one be?

We face serious issues and challenges and must have a grown up at the helm - Mitt Riomeny has proven himself to be just that - a grownup who accepts and successfully deals with problems. Thank you and your family, Gov. Romeny, for making the necessary sacrifices to run for President - we are very lucky that you have been willing to put yourself under the microscope and subject yourself to the rude and ludicrous comments - those of us who take these challenges seriously appreciate you.

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RuthieM — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:03:19 GMT

I don't like Mitt Romney the flip flopping racist. He has attacked Obama's name knowing what his name is, he has on more than one occasion, tried to equate Obama with terrorism, disrespecting he is an American and his American U.S. Senate seat, he has refused to speak to voters when asked questions about medicinal marijuana, his Mormon religion is twisted saying blacks are black because they were 'given' that skin color by God because the Mormons say blacks turned away from God and that is why their skin is black, their biblical book is not the Holy Bible it is the Gideon Book or something like that, and there was a time their religion did not allow blacks into their church, and more. So Mitt Romney doesn't deserve to be president of the United States any more than Hitler did.

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Scott — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:08:21 GMT

Go Mitt! He's the only candidate who would turn this country around fiscally. I'm excited for his presidency.

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Randy, Xenia, Ohio — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:34:43 GMT

RuthieM, Kisha, Pat et al above. Is all you can do name-call? This is the trademark of a desperate and mean-spirited political approach that has no reliable or true facts to back it up. Why do you hate Mitt so? What has he done to you? These comments are so conspiratorial and cynical. It makes me wonder if you are happy, well-adjusted people. Ruthie, your racist remarks are incorrect and logically flawed. If you are interested in another viewpoint, there are resources for you. Check out http://www.romneyexperience.com for an intelligently written piece on this topic.

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David — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:39:27 GMT

Mitt and Edwards are alike. They have both well coiffed hair and they are both Flipfloppers.

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momo's suck — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:43:46 GMT

If an atheist can't be president then neither can a momo, sorry mitt ya racsist paligamist, you and the scientology of yesterday can go f yourself. The thing that bothers me most about mormonism is that you consider the native americans to be the descendants of people who were totally evil. After all we've done to the native americans, pushed them of their land, pushed alcohol on them, gave them diseased riddled blankets (that one was especially crappy by the way) and broke all of our treaties with them and worst of all general genocide. But yeah your right now we should ridicule them in our wacky upstart religions too. momo's are wrong for america

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:46:51 GMT

Mitt Romney, the Hillary Clinton of the Repuclicans

Phoney, inauthentic, flip flopping

Mitt and Hillary are the wo weakest candidates their respective parties have to offer

Hillary Clinton is the Republican party's fondest dream..........
A liar who will unite them out of hatred for the dishonest Clintons........

Romney, si.... Hillary, NO !!

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Rufus Gibbons, DC — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:46:56 GMT

Romney seems like any other republican candidate. Wrap yourself in the flag and send other peoples children to war. John McCain is one exception he does have a son in the Marine Corps.

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Jeff, Portland, OR — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 17:59:17 GMT

Renna...you need to look a little harder if you haven't heard them dispute the claims. They just don't have as much money to get there message out. It's so sad to see how much money influences our politics. Do some research!!! Don't take the candidates claims out face value....it's usually spin.

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Jeff Wolfe, Grimes, Iowa — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:27:13 GMT

Mitt Romney has too "thin skin" to be president. He gets VERY defensive when asked about his religion. Answers with very vaugue answers. Check out his interview with Michelson, a conservative talk show guy in Des Moines. http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/08/04/romney-defends-his-faith/

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Ann, Iowa — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:33:52 GMT

Mitt Romney Flip Flopping on Abortion watch this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFMdK0TWtks&feature=related

Do you really want a scum bag like this.
A photograph of GOP presidential contender Mitt Romney at a 1994 Planned Parenthood fund-raiser has surfaced, once again raising questions about the former Bay State’s governor’s abortion flip-flopping.

The picture, a copy of which was obtained by the Herald, shows Romney and his wife Ann at a house party fund-raiser in Scituate with Nicki Nichols Gamble, who was the president of the Planned Parenthood League of Massachusetts at the time. Romney has already downplayed ties to Planned Parenthood after revelations that Ann Romney donated $150 to the group.

Gamble said the pic was snapped at an event at GOP activist Eleanor Bleakie’s house and that she “clearly” remembered speaking with Romney at the event. At the time, Romney was running as a pro-choice Republican against U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.).

“My recollection is that we talked about his senate candidacy and the fact that he was supporting Roe v. Wade and a choice agenda at the time,” Gamble told the Herald. “It was a Planned Parenthood event. We were there to discuss our programs and our advocacy.”

The event was held the same day Ann Romney wrote a check to the pro-choice group. Romney has previously said he had “no recollection” of his wife writing the check to Planned Parenthood.

Romney spokesman Eric Fehrnstrom called the flap “a dog bites man story.”

“Governor Romney used to have a different position on abortion,” Fehrnstrom said. “He is now firmly pro-life and has made it clear that as President he will advocate for a culture that welcomes life and protects the sanctity of life. This is the same path that Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush followed.”

Because of his abortion shift, Romney has been branded a flip-flopper by his GOP primary opponents, as well Democrats. Romney has stated he became pro-life in 2004 during the stem cell debate in Massachusetts.

Beyond attending the event, Romney filled out a 2002 questionnaire for the Planned Parenthood Advocacy Fund in which he said he supported Roe v. Wade, sex education in schools and increased access to emergency contraception.

“With Mitt Romney, this has been more than a flip-flop. This has been an extreme makeover,” said Planned Parenthood spokesman Angus McQuilken. “What voters need to know about Mitt Romney is this: where he stands on any issue is always a moving target.”

Romney reacts to photo:
+ Romney dismisses photo suggesting he attended Planned Parenthood event
dwedge@bostonherald.com

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MICK — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 20:31:08 GMT

Renna:
Have you been listening? Both Huckabee and McCain have named HOW Romney's commercials have been dishonest.

Randy, Xenia, Ohio:
"Conspiratorial" ??? Give us a break! Couldn't you come up with anything better than THAT in your name-calling, than to call people whom you do not know, who happen to post on the same blog, whom you do not agree with, "Conspiratorial" ???

Dear RuthieM,
LDS scripture teaches Bigotry:
The LAW OF LDS-God regarding the AFRICAN RACE, IS: if ANY WHITE MAN OF THE CHOSEN SEED mixes his blood it is DEATH ON THE SPOT, THIS WILL ALWAYS BE SO. THE "African Race" is cursed, marked with the flat nose and black skin. This "curse" will be on them until all the other descendants of Adam have resurrected from the dead, and that will be soon enough to remove the curse from them and their posterity (As taught in LDS "scripture" found in Journal of Discourses,vol.10,p.110; vol.7,pp.290-291; vol.2,p.143; vol.11,p.272). LDS Journal of Discourses is available on the internet for anyone who would like to dispute my note to RuthieM.
The book LDS revere, OVER the Bible, is Book of Mormon which claims to be "Another Testament of Christ." Actually, it is "A Testament of 'Another' Christ" who is "spirit-brother of Lucifer" and his name is "AHMAN" (eg Moses 5:13, [LDS]Gospel Principles,revised 1979,ch3 and throughout LDS teachings; LDS Doctrine and Covenants 78:20, 95:17).
BIGOT: one obstinately and unreasonably wedded to a particular belief or creed (Websters Large Print Dictionary, revised 1994). Romney, as a LDS High Priest, has made oaths, on his life, to uphold LDS scripture as true.
Sincerely.

NOW, Randy, Xenia,
tell us LDS scriptures have it all wrong!

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John Thompson, Denver, CO — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:59:50 GMT

Why is this focused so much about religion. We've had presidents from many faiths and every faith I've looked in to has some pretty "weird" things about it. From catholicism to budism to baptist. There are some crazy theological ideas. Catholics believe they are literally eating his flesh with their sacrament. That the wafer literally changes to flesh. Check your doctrine if you don't believe it.

The point is, look at the principles of the candidates. Their track record, how their lives are lead. That is the real value. I know good people from many faiths and have honestly been impressed with Mitt.

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Perplexed — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:39:12 GMT

I can understand people debating political differences here and the flip flop argument can be aplied to all canidates but, I am confused by the anti mormon element here. If you are worried about if Mitt is a Christian, then you must see how hypocritical and unChristian your hatered appears. Your tone and language would never convince someone that you are "Christ like". Is it all religion you hate or just Mitt's. I can not tell if you are anti-mormon or anti-religion in general.

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Eric, Tooele, Utah — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 22:56:26 GMT

Mick, a few points...

Dishonest? It's interesting that you denigrate Romney as racist based on a speach made a hundred and fifty years ago, in a much different setting than now, by a completely different person. Then you select a few chosen statements completely out of context to prove your point.

In complete honesty, why don't you refer to this individuals credentials, and record? If you're going to make the tenuous correlation between what his faith is and what its doctrine is at least refer to the entire message of said discourses. It paints a completely different picture.

Since Mick raised this highly bigoted attack against a man and his faith - by his own definition - hold him to his criteria. Research the facts for yourselves.

If his faith - in this land of so many faiths, creeds, and philosophies - is the main issue, we have serious problems. We'll never develop tolerance for anyone, anywhere at this rate.

It is intriguing that many comments here are based on a very shallow understanding of any of the candidate's policies or beliefs. I know for one that there have been many bigotted comments regarding Romney's religion by people that quite obviously have little or no understanding of what it truly is, what its doctrines are and what its followers believe.

I find it unwise to pull a couple of non-contextual comments from any source - religous or otherwise - and try to formulate a fair and intelligent evaluation of any of the candidates. Do your research. If you're looking for a reason to hate someone, you'll definately find it. As you will if you're looking for a reason to approve of them.

If that is the criteria for the political process, God help us all.

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Brent, Irvine, CA — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:55:11 GMT

MoMo's suck:

Learn to spell. No one takes you seriously (fortunately) because you come across as a major ignoramus.

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Brent, Irvine, CA — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:58:17 GMT

MICK:

Journal of Discourses is not LDS scripture. It is second and third hand hearsay.

Your comments could not be further from the truth or LDS doctrine. Your vehement hatred must consume your life--pathetic.

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Randy, Xenia, Ohio — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:50:30 GMT

Mick, RuthieM et al again. All I can really say about your comments are how I feel when I read them. I feel saddened and disappointed. Putting Gov Romney in an analogy with Hitler? This put a sick feeling in my stomach. Please note that any adjectives I used earlier were directed at comments and statements, not in describing anyone's character. This is not name-calling. There is a difference. Mick, I refer you as well to http://www.romneyexperience.com for a thoughtful response to the racist issue.

"Conspiratorial" comes to mind as the charges of "flip flopping" (and other strong rhetoric) have an undercurrent of implying a premeditated and disingenuous plot to only "say the right things" to capture the presidency of the U.S. This is the stance held by many on the political left about Gov Romney. It is position I do not hold.

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Grant Fort Collins — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:09:43 GMT

What is the world coming to when one person is getting becuase of his faith. We need to look at the big picture and the next true leader of the great place we call home.

The whole reason why people come to USA is to have freedom from the old style of life.

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marie thomson Seattle Washington — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:40:48 GMT

Mitt Romney's ads are accurate. Please note like a good scholar he gives references and quotes for every single "contrast" point he makes. He is the only one capable of doing well in ALL the early primary states. Huckabee conveniently choose to compete in a Bible Belt state where he could effectively play the anti-Mormon bigot card spread by his ministerial minions and like thinking lackies. How do I know. I got one of these hate filled missiles myself from an evangelical minister--lies, half truths and distortion. Note Huckabee isn't doing well in New Hampshire and McCain isn't doing well in Iowa. Mitt Alone is ahead or tied in nearly every one showing a broader base of support and the ability to win on a national level.

President Romney will make us all proud to be Americans again.

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marie thomson — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:59:23 GMT

Ruthie,

Are you aware (check your American History Books) that the biggest reason Mormons were driven out of Missouri is because they detested slavery (mostly from North Eastern States, Canada and England at this time) and the native "old Missourians" wanted Missouri to come into the union as a slave state. The Mormon population was swelling rapidly and the "oldsters" feared greatly that they would form a majority and keep Missouri out of the union as a slave state or only allow it in as a free state!

Though it sounds arcane now, at the time it was much otherwise. Joseph Smith, when he ran for president, before his assassination, proposed as part of his platform that the Government of the United States should purchase all slaves and repatriate them to their homes in Africa.

I'm a former teacher of American History. Check your facts! During this same time Baptist tracts were questioning whether or not Blacks, though in human form, truly had souls. It was a very different time.

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James Floyd, South Weber, Utah — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:06:07 GMT

I believe Mitt would be an effective president, even if his religion is not mainstream. It is surprising how much people want to remove religion from government and public affairs but at the same time we attack people based on their religion. Let's stay focused on the issues and leave people's religious preference out of the equation. Mitt would be a fine president. For those of you who are concerned about him being a Mormon I would encourage you to learn more about Mormonism from Mormons instead of believing what you read in anti-Mormon literature. Mormans have their faults and have had made some mistakes in the past but haven't we all?

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Lorenzo Cage, Tyler, Texas — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:24:34 GMT

It is interesting that some poster (Mick) quotes a 150 year old Mormon and states that Mormon's were prejudiced. What about Southern Baptists? Doesn't there religion exist specifically because they believed God authorized slavery in the Bible? This was the reason they became "Southern Baptists." Northern Baptists didn't believe missionaries should be slaveholders, and Southern Baptists believed it was a God-ordained right, and bibically sanctioned practice because white's were inferior to blacks. And, they used the bible to prove it.
I'm not saying that either position was ever correct--but surely that person wouldn't think that a SOUTHERN BAPTIST PREACHER should be President! (Like Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, or others.) These are SOUTHERN BAPTISTS--upholders of slavery; champions of the cause that missionaries could be slaveholders, because the Bible ordained it!
Let's not give a religious litmus test to our President. Let's elect the best person for handling MONEY, FAMILIES, and POLITICS. Oh, that would be Mr. Romney. As a successful businessman, family man, and a pretty proven politician--he's got my support.

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Thomas Strong — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:47:23 GMT

romney presents himself very well i hope he wins. He turned the olympics around and did well at governing mass. He balanced the mass. budget very well i hope he wins.

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Steve — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:25:12 GMT

MICK let me help you out before your look any more foolish. The LDS Journal of Discourses is not a "scripture" in the LDS religion. Your quote on the African race has to do with old testament laws and the Law of Moses which all Christians know were fullfilled by the coming of Christ. Christ taught two laws- Love God and Love thy nieghbor.

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bruce, West Jordan, UT — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:42:44 GMT

Romney scares me more than almost any other candidate. Saying we should keep detainees at Gitmo so we "don't have to give them the same rights as if they were on American soil" is totally UnAmerican. The Declaration of Independence states that "all men" are created equal and endowed with inalienable rights by their creator...not just those on "American soil".

Then, he says that all other civil rights are meaningless and the only right that means anything is the right to life. What???? Every founding father of this country knew that if the revolution failed they would all be executed. If they believed as Romney does that the right to life is more important than our other civil rights, we'd be a Commonwealth country today.

He needs some remedial civics lessons. I, for one, am not willing to give up my other civil rights simply to live. Sorry Mitt.

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Todd, Nashville, TN — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:05:17 GMT

Romney is clearly the best candidate either party has to offer, and frankly, he's the single best Presidential candidate I've seen in 20 years. 150 years ago or 10 years ago... All these people have is the past. It takes a very small-minded person to bypass all of Mitt Romney's numerous accolades in his life to come down on him as these people have. They'll completely bypass the fact that there were definite changes in the way he viewed the Pro-Life cause between 1994 and 2002. For instance, in the latter campaign, Romney specifically noted that he was personally Pro-Life but would uphold the laws of Massachusetts and maintain the status quo--which he did by vetoing every single instrument of change sent before him by the Mass Legislature. I'll further note I find it humerous to think these people believe Romney is pulling the wool over the eyes of men like Jim DeMint, Judge Robert Bork, Jim Talent, Paul Weyrick, Jay Sekulow, and the editors of the National Review. Romney has the leaders of the Republican Establishment and the conservative movement behind him. That ought to speak volumes. But to those who detest Mormons and to those who demand a lifetime purity test, he will remain a target of bitter attacks because of the simple fact that they see he is the best candidate out there by leaps and bounds and there is nothing they can do about it.

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Tony Colindres, Utah — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 10:19:58 GMT

Mitt Romney is an able, intelligent, proven leader. His all around experience come from academics (Law and MBA degrees from Harvard – Cum Laude), private business (CEO), voluntary service (2002 Winter Olympics Chairman), public life (Governor), a successful family man, one-wife husband, father and grand-father. This campaign is about bringing a positive change to our great nation. Mitt Romney stands for a better economy, a stronger military, and stronger family values. The liberal mainstream media tries to tarnish his impeccable record but his record speaks for itself. He will do what he says he will do. He will turn around Washington. He has gained my respect and my vote. Go Mitt!!