Biden memo rips Edwards

Dan, Warwick RI — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:19:10 GMT

Certainly an attack memo like this isn't very flattering for Biden to put out. Given that, I fail to disagree with the points about Edwards' electability: he seems to be quite talented at losing elections. I suspect he's the only one of the leading three who stands any chance of losing a general election. Not to say that I think Biden would win: he seems to be a bright guy, but clearly not adept at organizing a campaign.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Simon, IA — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:22:04 GMT

Seems like Clinton-Obama ticket with Biden as Sec of State. Unless Biden does great in Iowa. Then it can be Clinton-Biden ticket.

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Mark G. Atl., Ga. — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:23:21 GMT

Why would Biden do this? He know's he's not going to win. Edwards isn't a threat to him. Biden gains nothing. Obama would gain the most if Biden was able to sway Iowans away from Edwards. So Biden just doesn't like Edwards or he's doing some knee-capping on behalf of Obama.

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garrett, seattle — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:24:55 GMT

wow. you go biden. I guess someone is actually offering up some edwards information that is free of sugar-coating. Edwards has remained just obscure enough over the last months so that his every word hasn't been analyzed, and now that he's storming out of behind-the-scenes (read "behind Hillary/Obama"), he's able to get a boost in the polls because there has been little negative press about him. But he deserves some analysis...otherwise he might sneak to victory in Iowa (but would never hold up as the nominee)

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--NSMsnbc — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:30:54 GMT

"I guess Edwards won’t be getting many of those Biden second-choice voters."
--That wasn't my take-away message. Voters don't necessarily vote like their candidates. (That is why I would have been interested in a John Kerry endorsement).
--I heard a second-tier candidate attacking Fmr. Sen. J. Edwards. It sounds to me like he is considered the easiest to 'bump' off. I could be wrong.

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SoCal for Edwards — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:31:34 GMT

Could it be possible that the reason Kerry/Edwards didn't carry North Carolina was because them southerners didn't like the Yankee cadndidate (Kerry) and the fact that Edwards was his running mate made no difference to them. I'll go even a step further and say maybe some of them felt Edwards a trader for pairing up with Kerry, a democrat from Boston? Plus let's not forget where this memo came from, Biden Communications Director Larry Rasky. Last minute ploys from all campaigns surfacing.

Biden memo rips Edwards

John Adams, Ocala, Florida — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:38:36 GMT

The fact is that politics in the U.S. today involve attacking your competitors and trying to damage their campaign and thereby enhance your own. This screed by Rasky is laughable and full of his opinions presented as "facts". John Edwards is a very good candidate(whom I support)as are Barack and Hillary. Why not present your best case for your own candidate and leave the hostility for your competitors out of the discourse. Let the voters and caucus goers decide who the winner is. Mr. Rasky does not help Joe Biden who is a great American and a good Senator. Chill.

Biden memo rips Edwards

justwaitandsee — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:41:16 GMT

Senator Biden, Great Observation....Everyone should pay close attention to these words........

OBAMA/BIDEN (THEY ARE MY CHOICES)

Biden memo rips Edwards

Dot, Illinois — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:45:41 GMT

Does anyone else find it interesting that this is one of the few times that an article on this site deals ONLY with Senator Biden? He has campaigned for how long, and hasn't ever gotten much attention. But an ad that might be considered an attack ad merits a whole article. What does that tell you about meida coverage?

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MEG, Clayton, NC — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:45:46 GMT

Despite the perceived tone of this message, I must agree with the bottom line that Larry Rasky puts forth. When I envision each of the Democratic candidates going toe to to with any of the Republican possibilities, I feel Joe Biden is the best we have to offer. Additionally, I've heard many moderate Republicans who are partial to him as well. And finally, here in North Carolina, John Edwards is not universally liked, by any means. I think the Democrats' would do best with Joe Biden as their nominee.

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Anthony Sacramento California — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:56:17 GMT

The message is this: If you're a Biden supporter, do not waste your second choice vote on John Edwards. JE is a good trial lawyer, but an even greater actor. Unfortunately, his politics further divide the country. Differences become strengths when we all work toward common goals.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Kevin, SF CA — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:58:03 GMT

Call him out, Biden! Let's take that phony down. Biden deserves to take Edwards' spot. Biden is far more honest, earnest, straightforward, and experienced than Edwards. He doesn't look to start class wars to gain votes. And the only dirt people can dig up are FALSE 20-year old "plagiarism" reports.

Biden memo rips Edwards

justwaitandsee — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:01:38 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYmaZmKk6Vo

Are you ready

Biden memo rips Edwards

Sierra, SF — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:05:04 GMT

I don't like seeing Democrats attacking other Democrats (other than Clinton)

Why would Biden do this ?
Is he looking for the VP slot on an Obama/Biden ticket ?

It would be an attractive ticket

Don't do it this way, Joe....

Edwards is a good candidate, BUT........

He's NOT the most electable.....

Obama is because he's a conciliator
Edwards is the second most electable
Biden is third because he has 'real' experience....
That puts Dodd as fourth (but a little dowdy) ...
Richardson is the fifth most electable....

Guess who would unify the Republicans ?
Guess who would shatter Democratuc unity ?
You got it ..... the crook !!

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sonya, atlanta, ga — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:05:54 GMT

Come on Cal, the south didn't like JFK but LBJ helped him enormously. If you can't win in your own hometown, that has to tell you something.

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Rick,ky — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:06:47 GMT

Could this be Joe Biden's way of Apoligizing to Barack for the comment earlier this year? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm! It's defintly not what Hillary would want, so she's Not behind it.Joe Biden knows, his Influence would be minable in a Clinton admistration. On the other hand, in a Barack admistration, Joe Biden would have a lotta say, doncha think?

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Jillian, Chandler, Az — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:08:13 GMT

There is NO doubt that Edwards won't be getting any votes from Biden supporters.
People who support Biden are people that value experience, honesty and truthfulness. And most of us already own a car....

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Dennis, Jobstown, NJ — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:09:53 GMT

These aren't ploys, SoCal, they are cold hard facts. The Kerry-Edwards ticket couldn't beat a standing president who is about as popular as cancer in his own hometown. What makes you think he will do any better this time around?

There is absolutely no debate to be had on this issue: Joe Biden is the most qualified candidate running on the Democratic side. Don't get me wrong, I like John Edwards. I think he is a fine and principled man. But you can't stand here and tell me with a straight face that he is a more qualified candidate than Joe Biden.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Katie Oh, Houston, Texas — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:16:40 GMT

Will John Edwards' populist rhetoric really "frighten... most middle class Americans and virtually all Republicans"? That assertion is laughable. The voters I know have been galvanized by Edwards' message. And, that assertion is historically inaccurate.

Bill Clinton in 1992 had a strong populist message. That message hit a nerve. It brought an obscure Arkansas governor with little foreign policy experience all the way to the presidency.

From a 1991 NYT article on Clinton's decision to run for national office:

Mr. Clinton has also acquired a strong populist tone. "I'm not out to soak the rich," he said today. "I wouldn't mind being rich myself. But I do believe that rich people should pay their fair share of taxes. For 12 years, while middle class incomes went down, the Republicans raised taxes on middle class people. And while the incomes of our wealthiest people went up, their taxes were lowered. That's wrong, and the middle class needs a break."

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CEEDB1E3BF937A35753C1A967958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2

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VA for Obama/Biden! — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:19:49 GMT

SoCal: Why didn't they at least get Edwards home county then? Or a single southern state since that was the purpose of putting Edwards ON the ticket.

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Kelly (from Pittsburgh) — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:30:50 GMT

The more important part of the arguement than whether or not Edwards claim about being able to win any southern states, is that his message will not be a winner in the general election. Both he and Obama have a populist agenda, but Obama is selling the message in such a way that Republicans and Independents find his bipartisan ideals appealing. Edwards is using partisan rhetoric, that he will not be able to step away from in the general election.

Clinton is very moderate, but with almost no cross over appeal and negatives amomgst some democrats, she is the most unelectable.

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Looking to the future, Wisconsin — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:38:00 GMT

SoCal for Edwards,

That doesn't explain why Edwards wasn't favored for re-election for his Senate seat (Kerry wasn't on that ticket).

I am very concerned that we could really loose this thing if Edwards or Clinton get the nomination. Edwards has less experience that either of the other three front runners, a terrible voting record and no foreign policy experience or platform. Not to mention spending limit issue. Of course Edwards would get a lot of money if he got the nomination but his hands would be tied until August 25th. That's a whole lot of time for the Republicans to beat up on him with him unable to make a strong counter attack. His Senate record concerns me more than anything though.

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Brian, Philadelphia, PA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:38:01 GMT

People say Biden can't organize a campaign. Those the media focus on raise the most money and get the most votes no matter how hard they fight and campaign. Joe is the only candidate that has any international experience beyond vacationing, and we need a President that can fix our problems in the international enviornment before we end up in WW III. If people would pay attention, they would realize this fast before we make another huge mistake on the Presidency. We are so worried about a woman President or a Black President that we are not looking for the right President!!

Biden memo rips Edwards

Clint — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:44:49 GMT

That letter should have been triple-long and mention reasons why hillary and obama wouldn't be electable either. it's even easier to think of them.

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diane — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:48:59 GMT

Joe Biden is not known for attacking fellow democrats. He is not known for negativity.
Dodd has ripped but, Biden has always been cool. So this carries alot more weight. Biden is not happy with Edwards and for Biden to go with this means he has alot of concerns.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Steven, KDH, N.C. — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:50:38 GMT

SoCal....Yes let's not forget where the Biden campaign got the info.....uh....HISTORY BOOKS MAYBE!!
Edwards couldn't even carry his own COUNTY!!! So all the people from North Carolina who thought him a 'trader' for running with Kerry, don't think that anymore? We are just so darn hillbilly...yuck yuck....that we'll see him as different now? What ever helps you sleep at night brother, but I wouldn't count on it. AND...his lack of money WILL BE an issue no matter how he wants to downplay it. To get any real traction further on he'll end up having to depend on that 527 of his to help him out even more....and then he'll be done.

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Susan, Floyd County, IA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:54:09 GMT

Biden memo rips Edwards

framecop, Raleigh, NC — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 00:56:35 GMT

1. John Kerry DID NOT RUN ONE SINGLE CAMPAIGN AD IN NORTH CAROLINA, and probably didn't run them in most southern states.

2. John Edwards' approval rating in NC in July 2004 was over 50%.

3. John Edwards would have defeated Richard Burr had he run for reelection, around 53% to 47% according to most surveys.

4. Polls today show Edwards defeating all Republicans in NC (December's Public Policy Polling & Elon University earlier in the year), defeating Romney and Giuliani in Oklahoma while tying Huckabee and losing to McCain and Thompson there, and also show that Edwards would defeat all Republicans in IOWA, which Clinton and Obama do not.

Maybe Joe Biden needs to go somewhere and GET A CLUE.

John Kerry didn't run one single campaign ad in North Carolina.

John Kerry didn't run one single campaign ad in North Carolina.

John Edwards was not the problem with that ticket. All other NORTH CAROLINA DEMOCRATS WON. They won the Governorship, Lt. Governorship, Attorney General, Treasurer, and both houses of the General Assembly.

The only things they lost were the U.S. Senate and Presidency because Erskine Bowles and John Kerry WERE BOTH TERRIBLE CANDIDATES.

Joe Biden is a lying S.O.B.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Adam , Pittsburgh, PA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:01:54 GMT

Joe Biden is the man

Period
--
Edwards has apologized for every major legislation he signed in the Senate. -- BAD JUDGMENT

Edwards was a 1 term Senator. -- NO EXPERIENCE

Edwards could get re-elected or carry his home state. -- UNELECTABLE

Biden memo rips Edwards

Iris Evans, NY — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:08:27 GMT

There goes Biden chance to be VP under Edwards. And they had been such good buddies up until now.

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Pbrown — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:10:28 GMT

Second choice: Edwards v. Obama by: Jeff Zeleny

JEFFERSON, Iowa – Yes, there are perils to taking questions during the closing stretch of a presidential campaign, particularly as the candidates diligently work to stay focused on their message and avoid dangerous missteps.
There also are opportunities.
Consider a scene from here in Jefferson this afternoon, when Gene Blanshan, a 59-year-old farmer from nearby Panora, posed this question of Senator Barack Obama: “I’m a Biden supporter. He might not be viable. Why should I select you over John Edwards?”
With an apparent deadlock among three Democratic candidates, a remarkably fierce competition has broken out between Mr. Obama and Mr. Edwards as they work to win over undecided voters and try to become the second-choice for Democratic voters here.

After praising Senator Joseph R. Biden, this is how Mr. Obama responded:
“I think John is a fine person with a beautiful family who has run a very good campaign. But I would say that if you look at the track records of who has really brought about change when they were in a position to do it, I think I can make a claim that you can trust, you can count on.
“When I was in the Senate, I fought and got the power of lobbyists reduced. That’s not something that John invested in, even though he’s talking about it a lot now. When I talked about getting troops out of Iraq, I was opposed to the war at the start, when it was unpopular to be against the war, John was for it.”
He continued drawing distinctions, on a series of votes that Mr. Edwards took in the Senate, from trade agreements to bankruptcy legislation to education policy. Then, this is how he concluded:
“I think you have to take a look at where somebody’s been to know where they’re going. He says now that those were mistakes. I have no reason to doubt that he believes that. The point I’m making is that in my gut, there is a consistency of who I’m fighting for, what I believe in, the choices I’ve made in my life, that can give you some assurance that when I get into the White House, I’m going to be fighting for you and I’m not going to be different as time goes on.”
When the campaign stop here ended, Mr. Blanshan found himself surrounded by reporters. He reiterated his support for Mr. Biden, but said he fears that he may not reach 15 percent viability needed to win delegates, so he wants to prepare a second choice.
“Right now, I would be in Obama’s camp on second choice,” Mr. Blanshan said. “We need to have an agent of change and I believe Obama is the greatest agent of change that we have out there.”
A few months back, when Mr. Edwards was passing through Jefferson, Mr. Blanshan said he asked him the same question. He likes the fact that Mr. Edwards was the first to propose ideas for health care reform and other ideas, but after weighing the two answers, he said he was siding with Mr. Obama.
“There are times in history where country’s need a change in direction – a dramatic change in direction – and it gets down to Edwards or Obama on that issue,” Mr. Blanshan said. “I want a catalyst for change.”
A few hours earlier, there was a private discussion inside the Obama campaign whether the senator should take questions from voters today. (Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton is rarely taking questions during the public portion of her campaign events.) The smile on Mr. Obama’s face – and on the faces of his aides – suggested they were pleased he did

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Robert Pritchard, Middletown, DE — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:10:39 GMT

This is a very good strategy. Both Biden and Edwards are vying for the same constituency- blue-collared union folk- so if Biden can sway some of those guys from Edwards he could do much better than expected in Iowa. I like it Joe! Good luck!

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TruthSeeker — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:12:41 GMT

Why isn't this flattering? I think this is precisely what campaigns should do. When one campaign makes a charge, refute the charge with facts. As long as it stays "above the belt," it's fair game. This was a factual memo that ably disputes (dare I say demolishes?) Edwards' electability argument.

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Michael — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:22:18 GMT

ABout time. Obama and Edwards are jokes. Obama is an arrogant and lazy guy who doesn't want to show up and vote on important issues. Edwards is worried about edwards and would do anything to get elected. They both would get slaughtered in a general election.
Which Republican can beat Biden?

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JK - West Iowa — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:36:07 GMT

Glad to hear someone is bringing this to attention. I tell you what, if McCain gets the nomination there better be a very strong, very experienced, man's man kind of democrat to take him on. They can't look weak at all! I honestly doubt Edwards can win the general election and I have serious doubts that Obama can.

By the way, when I used the description man's man above, I'm not excluding Hillary. She's the toughest one out of the top three. And no, I am not supporting her.

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hisgirlfriday — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:39:45 GMT

Yay Biden camp for telling it like it is. I don't know if Obama and Biden are working out something where his supporters might caucus for Barack as second choice but whatever the reason for this I appreciate Biden's camp for speaking the truth about this just like I enjoyed when Dodd pointed out how specious Hillary's most experienced argument was.

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Kristian O — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:49:54 GMT

This is about a lifetime US Senator being creamed by a current 2-term(Hillary), current 1-term(Barack) and a former 1-term(John)senator. So let me hit on the one who isn't in the Senate. Poor 'Ole Joe. Get ready for an early dismissal old man. You sound bad.

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RobK, Seattle, Wash. — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:20:09 GMT

Biden is looking to be on the VP ticket.

So he may get on w/billary if she's the nominee, or Obama.

Truth hurts. Edwards has only one ONE election in his life.

Mr. $400 haircut couldn't win his own state b/c he's do darn lavish, yet talks about the poor. Gimme a break.

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Lisa, Philadelphia — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:20:47 GMT

obama/biden '08. i've been saying it all along ...

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Gus Massa — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:30:26 GMT

No sense making each other look bad, what happens if you win the Caucus and set a lost for the general election.

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SandyD, Danville, IA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:34:05 GMT

The electability argument stems from several polls that show Edwards beating all the Republicans in head to head match-ups by a larger margin than either Clinton or Obama for THIS general election.

Obama has NEVER won an election in a red state...neither has Clinton. Edwards HAS. Since he didn't campaign for a second Senate term, we'll never know whether he would have won or not. Further, KERRY lost in 2004. I don't know about you, but I vote based on whose FIRST on the ticket, not their running mate.

Specious arguments from Biden. I suspect Biden is piqued that Edwards got some positive media following the Bhutto assassination.

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Fasteddie — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:52:59 GMT

You GO JOE! Me thinks Biden is not going to sit back and watch this tragedy take place. Everything Joe has said is true. When I think back, the fact that Edwards could'nt carry his home state, stil brings tears to my eyes, that killed us. He WILL be the easiest for the Republicans to beat. Evidently Biden does not want to see the Republicans back in the White House.

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justwaitandsee — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:12:09 GMT

Obama was the choice of 32 percent of likely Democratic caucusgoers, up from 28 percent in the Register's last poll in late November, while Clinton, a New York senator, held steady at 25 percent and Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, was virtually unchanged at 24 percent

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KWH, CA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:17:52 GMT

It looks like Biden, Clinton's lackey is doing her dirty work for her. Biden is one of the least likeable individuals running who ofter has his foot stuck in his mouth. He is just jealous of Edwards appeal with the electorate. Obviously, the Clintons have made overtures to their attack dog Biden. The Clintons would not run Obama as the vice presidential candidate, he does not have the necessary attack dog Qualities. Biden is rehearsing yet again for the Vice Presidency. He is and always has been a shill for Clinton. Notice he never attacks her.

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Joe Evans, New York, NY — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:18:44 GMT

Biden is probably pining for a chance to be Obama's VP choice if Obama gets the nomination-- which is something that I would wholeheartedly support.

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JONNYBOI EDWARDSON GRINNELL IOWA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:00:13 GMT

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage

$400 HAIR CUT WHILES HE CONDERMS COORPERATE GREED. THAT MONEY COULD FEED SOME KID IN N.O O AFRICA IT WILL BE OSSIE MORON TO VOTE FOR EDWARDS AGAIN.

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Laurie, Pittsfield, MA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:20:21 GMT

Biden is absolutely right and he tells it like it is!
That's one of his key qualities.

Those of us who have been around know John Edwards doesn't have the track record to match the rhetoric.

If John has really changed his ways, let him run for a lesser office than president to prove it. Then perhaps we'll take another look at him.

Biden is too reputable to team up with Clinton. He has a stellar reputation - no need to tarnish it at this point in his career. We all saw how Al Gore was treated in a Clinton administration. Bill will ride roughshod over any VP candidate.

I hope Biden and Obama team up. Can you imagine the strength of that ticket?They would win by a landslide! They would complement each other so well!

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j, o, ne — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:23:10 GMT

Simon heck yes! Put Dodd somewhere too, UN? He has skills!

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Roberto A. Whittier, Ca. — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 04:56:10 GMT

If people were looking at past performance then no candidate will have a chance. John Edwards is in this race to really shake up the institution of democracy, because it has been developed to serve the powerful and wealthy coorporations and individuals. To gain our jobs back, to stop spending in senseless wars to stop global warming, to make Americans healthier it is time to say no to the money self-interest campaings and vote with your heart and mind. Go Edwards!

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Victoria M, los angeles, Calif. — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:06:06 GMT

Edwards is such a good, decent man, He is intelligent and makes so much sense if people will just listen to him. I went from Clinton to Obama and now to Edwards and i am glad i came to my senses. He will be respected throughout the world for his calm and rational approach.

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Victoria M, los angeles, Calif. — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:07:14 GMT

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Joan in Calif — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:08:11 GMT

You got that right SoCal! Also, 2004 Senate race exit polls in NC indicated Edwards would have won reelection to his seat, so Biden doesn't know what he's talking about. No need for him to do this, unless he wants a Cabinet position if (big if) Clinton or O win.

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TPav Knoxville, TN — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:11:52 GMT

I agree with SoCal for Edwards.. I live in Tennessee and in 2004 that was the consensus, southern Democrats are differ in some ways than northern Democrats..

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Brad for Dakota — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:27:42 GMT

Biden needs to pull votes, he is unlikely to pull them from Hillary, so the next most likely is Edwards. No question Biden and Dodd are the most experienced in regards to the economy and world affairs its too bad we judge by the press and pocketbook.

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strategic planning in NE Ohio — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:52:32 GMT

I agree with Mark in Atlanta. Biden's move must be strategic. Behind the scenes he has said he won't work under Hillary as Sec. of State. This is a move to tell his caucus goers to move to Obama rather than Edwards in hopes of getting to be Sec of State in Obama's administration.

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Edmonsky, Sacramento, CA — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 05:56:19 GMT

One can still admire and vote for a candidate that he or she knows that is not viable to win nomination. There is no way in the world for Edward to win the nomination as a Democratic candidate. For instance, Joe Biden is friends with John Kerry and knew everything that went into choosing John Edwards as his VP. John Edwards lobbied for it and when he got it, he started using that opportunity as springboard for building his own political machine for future presidential run instead of how to help Kerry get elected. John Edwards could not engage Dick Cheney to avoid coming off as attack dog that will ruin his gentleman’s image. But this time around, John Edwards is a different man altogether because of political calculations. John Edwards can argue that he and his campaign do not know anything about the 527 led by his former campaign manager but only a fool will believe him.

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Jay Michaels — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:20:28 GMT

Biden: Just one more gun banner in the Democrat pile.

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at this 'juncture' in US history — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:22:16 GMT

We are electing a War-time president. If our nation were not enveloped in war on different fronts the candidates to choose from would be as many as their scope. Yet, sadly, this IS war-time. Americans MUST elect someone who can hit the ground running and running fast and hard, able to meet DC head on, someone who knows how to get things done in DC, able to cross party lines. We MUST elect a president who is Experienced in foreign relations, who KNOWS who he/she will be dealing with, from their own history in international politics. Who has proven to be a faithful servant, with AMERICANS' best interest in mind, NOT their power-mongering. Face it, no one campaigns for president for the money, whether they accept it or not.

As an Independent voter I must look seriously at Joseph Biden and John McCain at this 'juncture' (haven't heard that word for awhile), in U.S. history.

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Victoria Huntington,WV — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:30:43 GMT

Why is Biden browbeating Edwards? Is their some underlying reasoning? Does he have something to lose? Voters VOTE with conviction! VOTE with integrity! And when it comes to voting in 2008 for presidency in that booth VOTE "with your conscience" and not someone else's! Our country is in a debacle surrounded by many issues. Many things happened the last election thanks to preachers,teachers,signs and mudslinging lines, etc... Respect yourself to/with an honest priviledge to VOTE for the strongest candidate that will serve the position respectfully as president.

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Julie Powers, Mt Carmel, Tn. — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:31:45 GMT

Garret,
You say that Edwards has been surging because their has been no negative press about him. I beg to differ. There has been hardly any press either positive nor negative about him at all. The mainstream press has concentrated on Clinton and Obama for the past several months. They have virtually ignored all of the other dem candidates. As for Biden's memo. Hogwash. To say that their is very little evidence that Edwards is the most electable is a downright lie. Almost every poll from the last several months says that Edwards is the only candidate on the dem side that can beat ALL of the repubs. He is also the only candidate that has won in a red state. Please do research Biden camp.

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Victoria Huntington,WV — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:40:49 GMT

Hillary and Barach(Who has accomplished a lot in a short time as a Senator)will hopefully be running against each other. Regardless of the nomination, I hope they run as a ticket. Only the strong survive! That would be a pretyy strong ticket! "Oh say can you see....."

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Sara, WI — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:44:46 GMT

Even if Biden does well in Iowa, he has made it clear that he is not interested in running for VP on a Clinton-Biden ticket. Obama? Possibly. I believe that Biden has a genuine concern for electability of the person chosen to be the democratic candidate. I do not feel that this memo is unwarranted. Edwards seems to be a "good guy," but did we not see this "good guy" lose on another ticket in 2004? Biden is our best bet-hopefully others will agree in the weeks to come.

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Dave, Las Vegas, Nevada — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:46:43 GMT

Biden may be hedging his bets. If he can help Obama's campaign even slightly (the margin of victory in Iowa may be very small), he may put himself in a good position to be VP on an Obama ticket. Most candidates want the VP candidate to do their dirty work, and he is showing a willingness to do this. This pairing (Obama and Biden) would make alot of sense--his addition would counterbalance Obama's biggest perceived shortcoming: his limited experience in politics.

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Lela Ann, Sugarland, Texas — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 06:52:53 GMT

Edwards was doing bad even before his match up with Kerry. So, it had not that much to do with Kerry being from the North. Truthfully, I'm a southern myself and see Edwards as week in 2004 and still now.
How can this man win an election if he could not carry his own state?
It takes more than just being white & having a southern accent to win in th south. Were a very fickle group of people.

Biden memo rips Edwards

TR Phila pa — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:12:39 GMT

Edwards is a joke, he couldnt even carry his own home town. Hell, even Sadaam carried Tikrit!

Biden memo rips Edwards

Opa2 — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 07:37:50 GMT

We democrats got so involved in the Clinton-Obama cat fight that we never gave serious consideration to any other candidate. (Edwards his standing is mostly due to his being on the ticket last time.) We will come to regret in November that, once again, we missed a golden opportunity to win the Presidency. Eight years ago it was the stubbornness of Gore to exclude Clinton from his campaign. Four years ago we nominated a guy who allowed himself to be "swiftboated" and never fought back. This time we are likely to get stuck with Clinton or even Obama and leave a sure thing like Biden sitting on the sidelines. Than we bitch when a creep like Rudy is sworn in on 1-20-09.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Deborah, Iowa — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:05:02 GMT

well it looks like Edwards is actually succeeding ! why? cuz now the republicans are beginning to attack him...a sure sign he is surging!!....and a little facts please....the main reason his home states didn't vote well for Edwards was because they were not allowed to run ads in those states. GO EDWARDS!!! Keep em scared!!

Biden memo rips Edwards

dennis turner, cedar rapids, Ia — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 08:43:34 GMT

I see a lot of front runners in both parties, none of whom is carrying a message worthy of the post of leader of the free world.Since when haven't we been the voice of opportuniity, decency and free enterprise? The one clear voice in a world somehow confused by it all? We have always converted our enemies over time, it seems now, that perhaps the enemy is within and I think the enemy is fear.We are a people and a land, revered in principle by all the world.Pundits, punks, zealots and warmongers are welcome here to challenge and reinforce our values as a people, but whom shall we find that can inspire and lead us as a people? I'm not seeing it. Are you, really? Dennis, Iowa

Biden memo rips Edwards

framecop, Raleigh, NC — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:26:23 GMT

Here's my question for WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT AND THEREFORE RESISTANT TO CHANGE, Joe Biden.

Why didn't you send out memos ripping Clinton and Obama's CLAIMS that they are the most electable?

Notice how when MOST POLLS SHOWED EDWARDS RISING IN IOWA, all of a sudden Joe Biden decides to "rip" John Edwards.

Whose dirty work is Joe Biden doing? Hillary Clinton's? Barack Obama?

He's never attacked THEIR charges of electability, even though both have never won ANYTHING against any real competition.

Barack Obama won a Senate seat in blue-state Illinois AGAINST ALAN KEYES for crying out loud, while Keyes was a citizen of MARYLAND. On top of that, Keyes entered the race when it was almost over with!

Hillary Clinton won two Senate seats in the bluest of the blue, New York, against two NO NAME CANDIDATES. Who did she run against? Very few people even know, and no one cares, because they were NOBODIES!

John Edwards won a seat against an INCUMBENT Republican in NC, a state that normally sends Republicans to federal offices. A republican who threw every so-called "trial lawyer" attack that he could think up at John Edwards, and a Republican who was backed by the Jesse Helms political machine, in a state where Helms had been Senator for DECADES.

Edwards has been tested. Clinton and Obama have never won SQUAT against real competition.

As far as "now" goes, scroll up the page and look at my previous comment. Edwards defeats all Republicans in NC, defeats all Republicans in IOWA, and defeats almost all of them in Oklahoma. Clinton and Obama do not.

Joe Biden is CLUELESS.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Marbw — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:26:38 GMT

Video to go with PBrown's posting above(12/31 in Jefferson, IA):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fb3eulMVoc&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/1/1248/80544/776/428408

Biden memo rips Edwards

John Walkosz Grantsburg, Wi. — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 14:46:51 GMT

The reason and everyone in the US knows it is that Kerry was not electable and Edwards was just the VP in that race. I believe Edwards is the only electable person running as do many I have spoken to in the Northern States. I always voted Republican but now am ready to change for Edwards and his mandate.

Biden memo rips Edwards

G S, Shawnee Hills, OH — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:21:28 GMT

Yes! to Dot from Illinois. Biden, the most experienced and knowledgeable candidate by far, has been snubbed by the starry eyed media-celebs in an orgy of mutual self love with the frontrunners.

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Biden memo rips Edwards

Carrie, Eastern Iowa — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 15:55:18 GMT

Biden is surging in Iowa. He is drawing much bigger crowds all of a sudden. I think people are starting to wake up to what their choices really are. Electability is one of Biden's best arguments, along with being the only guy in the class with three decades of thinking about how to position his country in the world to its best advantage.

He is far more red-state electable than Clinton, Edwards or Obama. Clinton might not carry some key purple states in the Midwest. Repubs and a lot of Dem men will not vote for her.
Susan, Floyd County, IA (Sent Monday, December 31, 2007 7:54 PM)

I second that, Susan. Even MSNBC has FINALLY noted that Biden (along with Richardson) is drawing much bigger crowds lately.

I think the closer we get to caucus, the more serious people are getting about this decision, and when they really think about who the best candidate is overall, it's hard to deny that Biden is the man. It takes more than inspirational speeches to run a nation. It takes more than harsh rhetoric to run a nation. It takes more than Bill Clinton in your back pocket to run a nation.

It takes experience, here and abroad. It takes wisdom. It takes hard work. It takes a steady hand.

Biden is the one who embodies all of these things in a way that the other candidates don't. And Iowans are starting to realize this in ever-increasing numbers.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Delaware Republican — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:07:51 GMT

This is the real Biden - a pompous arrogant ass that loves the sound of his own voice.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Lou Smeltz, Tyler TX — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:41:44 GMT

Biden will be lucky to get 4th in Iowa. Same for NH. By next week, he'll be an also ran for the 2008 election. It is really time for him to retire from politics. His time has past.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Michael — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:02:26 GMT

Obama is the 2008 Howard Dean and Edwards is the Gephardt.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Alex G. Kansas City, MO — Tue, 01 Jan 2008 22:33:23 GMT

Biden is in it to win it. This ain't beanbag, folks. He has my vote.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Lori, Central CA — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 06:21:46 GMT

I rarely hear Biden or his staff criticize anyone. If Joe does do it, it means a whole lot more than all the sniping going back and forth between other camps. There are lots of people who don't care for Clinton or Obama and might think Edwards was acceptable. That was me until I found Biden. I think a lot of people who are not firm for Edwards could be convinced to vote for Biden. Plus, Biden is the only one of them who can beat a Republican easily.

Biden memo rips Edwards

SoCal for Edwards — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:24:45 GMT

To everyone that dissagreed with my earlier post, I'll stand by what I said. Edwards wins Iowa, he goes on to win the nomination.

Biden memo rips Edwards

SoCal for Edwards — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:47:01 GMT

And by the way, the fact that he can't carry his own state, you may want to look at this article http://www.news-record.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080102/NRSTAFF/222921738.

Biden memo rips Edwards

Betty Wood, New Bern, NC — Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:33:21 GMT

John Edwards is the best canditate for the Democratic party. He is honest, and does not owe the Washington establishment ONE THING.....Lets give him a VOTE IOWA...help put a real man in......