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--NSMsnbc — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:41:33 GMT

"But is it us or is the language she uses in this ad -- which comes directly from her victory speech on Jan. 8 in New Hampshire -- echo her much-publicized choking up moment in New Hampshire?"
--Duh ...

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No more status quo — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:52:24 GMT

So she listened to us and "found her voice", sheesh, the woman is 60 years old and she's just now finding her voice. Her voice appears to be that of a follower, not a leader. Why else would she embrace Obama's message of change. Girlfriend needs to decide, is she the agent of "change" or "experience"? Her vehement claims of "experience" would seem to negate her claims of being the candidate for "change". I love Bill Clinton, but Hillary is just a vote for the status quo.

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--NSMsnbc — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:55:37 GMT

What I mean is that obviously she is using that for a strategy. It was an accident and she stumbled upon it, but it worked. The problem I see is that people can only take so much of the 'new Hillary'. On a side note, Hillary can talk about how she cares about others. But in my experience (not politics but interviews for jobs and positions), the person who speaks without acting is rewarded and the opposite is shunned. She needs to learn some new tactics or else, people will see her for what she is: a one trick pony. Actually, in reality, she is more than that, so I would expect her to demonstrate such in the future.

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for real change, ny — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:57:18 GMT

Regarding Hillary's choking up. After seeing the footage, I am convinced that she was for real, possibly tired and maybe a little overwhelmed, but that said, my first thought before I actually saw the footage was, Hillary is the kind of person who would break down to manipulate people. As I said I believe it was a real moment, but isn't it sad that my overall impression of her is that she would use tears to manipulate. I supported Bill Clinton, but I just can't back Hillary as the Democratic nominee, I believe she will galvanize Republican voters.

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Tareli, Fuquay Varina NC — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:01:16 GMT

MSNBC why aren't you analyzing Obama's concession speech from NH? Which by the way was the same exact speech he was going to give if he had won, and which was written for him and read off of a teleprompter.

That is why Obama is no Dr. Martin Luther King. Dr. King wrote his own speeches and spoke from the heart. He didn't need a teleprompter to speak the words someone else had written for him.

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No More Clintons — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:02:26 GMT

I am sick of her already.

Help me.

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azbenny, Scottsdale AZ — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:05:30 GMT

I can't believe what a panderer Hillary is! She should be paying Obama's and Edward's speechwriters royalties for stealing their words. By the way, she has LESS elected experience than Obama----what a liar.

Obama 08

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nadeem, Canada — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:11:44 GMT

Change the channel

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Jessie, Seattle, WA — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:13:06 GMT

Polls... Hillary comes off hard and shrill - results - find yourself and your voice on national TV to appeal to the female vote. The eternal fight to fend off those evil men ganging up on her. Seriously. Discredit JFK and MLK to instill doubt, "they both were assassinated".

Wake up - are you looking for someone to fight or someone to help change through a collective effort. It would be a shame if America did or didn't pick Hillary for being a woman or Obama for being black. Instead look at ones integrity and ask.

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independents for change — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:13:25 GMT

i just don't trust this lady. she changes like the wind. have you nitced how the republicans are responding to her already. she will keep the fighting going in congress. they hate her with a passion. does she think thet republicans are going to work with her. hillary is so deceptive. she has changed her message so many times. it seems as though it is weekly she recasts herself. this lady scares me. if she wins the nomination we are going to lose the election for sure.

remember what the lady asked john mccain? how do we beat the bitc%. that is their attitude towards her they hate her.

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TS, Howell, NJ — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:14:14 GMT

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Mike Brooks, Eugene, Oregon — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:22:27 GMT

Do we look like sheep to you? Everyone knows that the NH election 3was the most outrageous example of vote fraud this country has ever witnessed. It is a mathematical impossibility that the polls were that far off. Sixteen hours before the election, Barak Obama has leads varying between 9 and 11 points. The margin of error for any of those polls was 2%. Now, all of the results, other than the Obama-Clinton contest fell within the margin of error and the polls tracked those results precisely. Furtherwmore, where there was a paper trail, even the Clinton-Obama vote tracked the polls. It was ONLY in those cases where votes were cast electronically that the Cliton "victory" turned up. The obvious conclusion, and IT IS being investigated, is that that widespread vote frqaud took place.

And, as for the racist comments of the Clinton nut jobs, just as I and other have predicted, it is coming home to roost:

"Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr., through a spokesman, used even stronger language. "Following Barack Obama's victory in Iowa and historic voter turnout in New Hampshire, the cynics unfortunately have stepped up their efforts to decry his uplifting message of hope and fundamental change.
"Regrettably, they have resorted to distasteful and condescending language that appeals to our fears rather than our hopes. I sincerely hope that they'll turn away from such reactionary, disparaging rhetoric."

A series of comments from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, her husband, and her supporters are spurring a racial backlash and adding a divisive edge to the presidential primary as the candidates head south to heavily African-American South Carolina.
The comments, which ranged from the New York senator appearing to diminish the role of Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement -- an aide later said she misspoke -- to Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama's image in the media as a "fairy tale" -- generated outrage on black radio, black blogs and cable television. And now they've drawn the attention of prominent African-American politicians.
"A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements," said Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver, who said that Clinton would have to decide whether she owed anyone an apology."

Recent polls are suggesting that more than half of black voters are so angry at the Clinton candidacy that they will wholesale desert the Democrartic Party in the November election.

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Bill, Macomb MI — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:23:46 GMT

"I found my own voice" - translation: I found the suckers who will now buy the new & improved Hillary product. Unfortunately those suckers are the single woman and mothers, working two and three jobs to support their families. I guess we will be hearing the words "girlfriend" and "you go girl!" as Hillary attempts to convince (manipulate) these voters into thinking she feels their pain. You may want to go back to the Maid-Rite restaurant in Iowa and ask waitress Anita Esterday who waited on and talked one on one with Hillary Clinton back on November 8, 2007. Anita is a single mom, raised two boys, works at a nursing home and always has a second job. Esterday does not think Clinton got it. "I don't think she understood at all what I was saying," Esterday said. "I mean, nobody got left a tip that day." As P.T. Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute". Hillary smells the blood in the water and she will go after these woman voters and manipulate them into believing she is for them. She will exploit them for their vote just like the the other industries trying to sell a diet pill, face lift or weight loss product to this same customer. Can't wait to see the new and improved Hillary product on TV. All you hard working single mothers make sure you buy this product it is guaranteed to improve your life.

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Jason, Wilmette, IL — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:32:31 GMT

Hillary's campaign is not dumb - manipulative maybe, but definitely not dumb.

Hillary split the women's vote in Iowa, with older women going for her and younger women going for Obama. The finding your voice theme resonates with younger women - who also have struggled to find their voice. Younger women identify with that struggle. So this is smart politics.

Personally, I find it hard to believe that Hillary Clinton is only now finding her voice. I think her "moment", while genuine, was about self-pity; seeing her years of planning a WH bid slipping away.

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Jessica, Wisconsin — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:33:58 GMT

This last week I've listened to Hillary and Bill and because of that I've found my voice. It says "Go Obama! Yes. We. Can.!"

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Jamie, Salt Lake, Utah — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:35:26 GMT

That moment was pathetic. If she'd react like that under no real pressure, then, how would she react to a real crisis as President?

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Cathy, Upstate NY — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:38:08 GMT

Why isn't every word Obama utters and every expression on his face being dissected the way it is for Hillary? Anytime I hear him speak anywhere, it's: "hope,change,hope,change,yes we can" How is THIS original and inspiring? SO WHAT if Hillary is using a speech that garnered an emotional reaction from people! Is that a crime??? Obama does it EVERY DAY, repeating and repeating the same thing over and over again, but I don't hear anyone complaining about that! Saint Obama better get some new material because true democrats want real answers, not empty rhetoric and silly promises. We won't follow along drinking koolaid and blindly chanting "yes we can"...Where's the beef? Hillary '08

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ST, Houston, TX — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:41:19 GMT

I have a hard time believing that Hillary can convince Democrats - much less independents and Republicans - that she's so different from what she has shown herself to be during her so-called 35 years of experience. Crying once and showing yourself to not be devoid of feelings will NOT be enough for the general public to overcome the negative opinions they've developed for her over the years. It's just not possible. Please Democrats, wake up to the reality that Hillary CANNOT win a general election!! Remember, choosing a nominee is one thing, but winning the Presidency is another. There isn't anything new or different that Hillary can offer in this election that the Republicans aren't eagerly awaiting to pounce her on, and I just know that she'd lose big time in a general election. Geez, I hate how unable we Democrats seem to be at picking winners for the general election, which is afetr all, what counts....grr!!!

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laurie, st. paul — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:42:30 GMT

Hillary's newly found voice is not strong enough to lead the country in the changes that are needed. The president needs the ability to unite the country in willingness to invest the $ in universal health care, education and more. Hillary is more wonkish and has skills more suited to senator or chief of staff. She has neither the vision or the skills needed to inspire and lead the country.

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Rep0X — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:47:05 GMT

Calculating Obama - no one else ever used teleprompter for their concession speech in a primary. Now we can understand why it came off so well compared to others. He is a calculating politician!! Of course MSNBC will not report such things

TS, Howell, NJ (Sent Friday, January 11, 2008 6:14 PM)
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MSNBC why aren't you analyzing Obama's concession speech from NH? Which by the way was the same exact speech he was going to give if he had won, and which was written for him and read off of a teleprompter.

That is why Obama is no Dr. Martin Luther King. Dr. King wrote his own speeches and spoke from the heart. He didn't need a teleprompter to speak the words someone else had written for him.

Tareli, Fuquay Varina NC (Sent Friday, January 11, 2008 6:01 PM)
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U are soooo sad! I hope Hillary wins, so that the both of U get to be the first off to suffer!

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Rob Shearer, Phoenix, AZ — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:48:32 GMT

AND YOUR POINT IS WHAT? Candidates use speeches from rallies and victory speeches all the time in their commercials. And since those are Hills own words...why not use them? She has expressed how she feels, so naturally these themes would show up in her commercials. BO, repeats his themes of change ad nauseam and even used some of the language from the debate in his stump speeches. I mean really First Read, get a grip.

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Sara — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:53:04 GMT

She Did not win NH,They gave her the vote by feeling sorry about her.She uses people, she plays the game all the time and her husband is a joke.she will be the loser by the end.she never cry when her husband was cheating on her. People remember she use to say right wing conspiracy.now we do not know which game she is going to play????????????.time will cach up with her.

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S.K.M. Mass — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:53:17 GMT

About THAT moment..
I try to analyze people by looking at their actions in their most simplistic way. I'll get back to that. The media has NOT done its job(no offense to Olbermann, who has mentioned the following) in reporting that moment. They only reported on the first half of it and hardly ever touched the second half of her choked-up moment, which I think is the core reason for why she cried up. She went on about how "some are wrong, some are right. Some are ready and some are not."
To get back to my first point on simplicity, Clinton wasn't just choking up. Choking up was incidental. Hillary Rodham Clinton choked up because she was losing control and she was asked "how do you do it?"

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Sara — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:54:34 GMT

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--NSMsnbc — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:55:23 GMT

My other question/comment is about the phrase, "I found my own voice?" That analogy confuses me, because her voice is clearly grating--it's one of her negatives. Keep in mind that Mr. Edwards's voice irritates me way, way more. Could she be trying to bait opponents and the media into "piling on," because I have a hard time rationalizing that her campaign didn't think about the word choice.

I think that when her voice became broken up, it was real, it was. Now, as a guy, I don't look for a leader to showing tears (and that goes beyond Hillary), but that is my personal and GENERAL train of thought. The breaking of her voice should have been relatively moot and not discussed more than a comment, but the boost it did give her is newsworthy.

As I said before, I doubt the sincerity of what she said, not how she said it. I think she made herself believe that that is what she believes, but in the end, I still get the impression that she feels entitled to the Presidency. Like I don't get the impression that Mitt Romney truly believes a word he says, I don't think Hillary believes her "new voice".

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diane — Fri, 11 Jan 2008 23:57:27 GMT

I do think Hillary tremble up but, I think it was more a regret and sorry for herself kind of thing. Her campaign was imploding at the time and it went poof in the matter of 2 months.
As well as exhaustion.
But, it was a one time thing. Doing this sort of thing over and over is not going to work.
People won't believe it and as is the Clinton way, they do go overboard.
Look for people to begin to roll their eyes after about a week of it.

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--NSMsnbc — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:00:03 GMT

"Crying once and showing yourself to not be devoid of feelings will NOT be enough for the general public to overcome the negative opinions they've developed for her over the years."
ST, Houston, TX

--This is what I really meant by one-trick pony. She could become broken up once, and it will help, but she can't use that accidental strategy again albeit in a purposeful way, because it will turn into a Giuliani cell phone moment. Sincerity will be doubted. I predict that we will see more of the 'old Hillary' and less of the 'new Hillary', but the 'old Hillary' is still capable of winning.

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Sara — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:01:06 GMT

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Dazed and Confused in DC — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:03:44 GMT

You Hillary haters had her cornered. This is finally it. She's going down. But you forgot one thing.

Cream always rises to the top. Hillary Clinton, President of the United States. Amen.

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jeffim — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:10:32 GMT

Lol, you Hussein Obama fans are pathetic! Get a life, and stop smearing Hillary. It did not work before, it won't work again.
j

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Sierra, SF — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:12:26 GMT

Tareli, Fuquay Varina NC:'...MSNBC why aren't you analyzing Obama's concession speech from NH? Which by the way was the same exact speech he was going to give if he had won, and which was written for him and read off of a teleprompter....'

Is this the new Clinton talking point ?
A teleprompter ?
Is THAT reaching ?

'...That is why Obama is no Dr. Martin Luther King....'

Nobody EVER CLAIMED that he was MLK
But, Hillary DID bad mouth MLK, saying he accopmplished nothing
NOT VERY SMART, HILLARY !!

'... speak the words someone else had written for him....'

Does Hillary write her own speeches ?
Are her words 'poll tested' ?
To make sure they'll fool people ?

Hillary Clinton, cold, calculating, dishonest, unethical, divisive

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HMT-MI — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:16:01 GMT

where is the video of Hillary crying?How many tears rolled down her cheek?Please answer so I can see too----I hear Romney had tears running down his cheeks in MI---where is the video--?thanks

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Sierra, SF — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:18:01 GMT

'Lonely Teardrops' Jackie Wilson

'..Shooby Doo Wop Wop Wop
Shooby Doo Wop Wop Wop
Shooby Doo Wop Wop Wop

My Heart Is cryin',cryin'
Lonely Teardrops
My pillows never dry off
Lonely Teardrops

Come Home, Come Home
Just Say You Will, Say You Will (Say You Will)
Say You Will (Say You WIll)
Hey, Hey (Say You Will)

My Heart Is Fine, Fine
Lonely Teardrops
My pillows never dry off
Lonely Teardrops

Come Home, Come Home
Just Say You Will, Say You Will (Say You Will)
Say You Will (Say You WIll)
Hey, Hey (Say You Will)

Just Give Me Another Chance
For our Romance
Come On And Tell Me
That One Day You'll Return
Cause Everyday That You've Been Gone Away
You'll Know Why My Heart Does Nothing But Burn
[Crying]

Lonely Teardrops
My pillows never dry off
Lonely Teardrops

Come Home, Come Home
Just Say You Will, Say You Will (Say You Will)
Say You Will (Say You Will)
Hey, Hey (Say You Will)
Say It Right Now Baby (Say You Will)
Come On, Come On (Say You Will)
Say It Darling Yeah! (Say You Will)

[Fade)....'

(PUHLEEEEEESE! )

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Jay Link, Chicago, IL — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:19:37 GMT

Sara, I am pretty sure she won New Hampshire legally, and not just for her tears. She got out and struck a chord with the voters of New Hampshire. How do you know how many tears she shed in private over her husbands infidelities. This was a private matter and we should respect her for that. Hillary is a competent, intelligent woman with the strength to become our next President.

Go Hillary 08

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Peter, San Francisco, CA — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:30:34 GMT

Actually, plenty of politicians read off teleprompters, or as we used to call them in the old days, "notes." It isn't reported because it isn't news.

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Charles, Maryland — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:32:17 GMT

2+2 has never been 5. Clinton will put the country back on a paying basis by Charging oil drug and media corporations taxes again. Chris Mathews and tucker carlson will have to pay taxes to our government. Thankfully people seem to be catching on that mews people have avested interest in who sets tax policy.

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Betty in Balitmore — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:34:24 GMT

Um, TS, Howell, NJ -- I'm not sure how using a teleprompter is "calculating" but it's cute that you think you can talk with the grown-ups. It is simply a decision Obama makes, and is pretty much as superficial as discussing, say, Hillary's outfits...

But oh! I'm sorry to say "outfits"! I must hate women!

Go cry in the corner with your harsh, overwhelmed candidate. We're all sick of her BS.

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Kelly (from Pittsburgh) — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:36:12 GMT

I wouldn't be using this in an ad, because it will remind voters across the country that she won on the basis of sympathy. And in the long run, that sets the woman's movement back.

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james sharp — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:46:57 GMT

After reading many comments from people about Hillary Clinton's win in New Hampshire, it seems pretty clear to me that Barak Obama's supporters are very angry. They sound like cry-babies who didn't get the toy they wanted. Many of these comments reek of a mean-spirited authorship.
Face up, people, you won in Iowa, but lost in New Hampshire. Unfortunately, you bought into the media attempt at Mr. Obama's coronation, and when the votes were all counted, your bubble burst (or I should say, "the media's bubble burst").
Many more primaries and caucuses are on the calendar; may the best Democrat win the nomination, I say. But for Heaven Sakes, stop the drivel about a rigged election; that's even worse than whining.
Hemersam
Garland, Texas

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Dot, Illinois — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:48:58 GMT

She should be paying Obama's and Edward's speechwriters royalties for stealing their words.
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Someone said much the same thing in a comment on another post. "Stealing their words?" If all the candidates say " We need to protect our country from terrorism" are they stealing from one another? With all the words they say, they are going to say similar things at some point. Seems like a minor thing to me.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:49:35 GMT

Mike Brooks, Eugene, Oregon:
It's all about the exit polls. I can buy that the sympathy Hillary generated after the alleged double teaming during the Saturday night debate (you can't do that to a woman; I never hear Romney or Huckabee or Paul complaining about being double teamed) and the crying game, might have closed the gap to 5% but that's it. Those exit polls had Barack actually winning by 5%. At 5PM on election night the newscasters were unofficially informed that Barack had a projected win of 5%. With the end vote showing a 2.6% win for Hillary that's an exit poll error of 7.6%. The Republican exit polling was right on. That's ridiculous.

I'm convinced that there was hacking into the Diebold paperless, touch screen machines. But how can this be proved? There's got to be history in the memories of these voting machines that can be tapped. We need an investigation! I suspect that the Obama camp views this as too sensitive an issue to investigate as it will open up a whole new level of accusations and inuendo. The press must carry on with this investigation for us. The sad thing for me is that I wouldn't put this past the Hillary camp; to me they are no different than those that ran the Bush campaign. I'm really sad to say this and I have to apologize to all (especially Hillary supporters), but after what I've seen from camp Hillary, I really wouldn't put it past them.
Obama '08

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Jessica, CA — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 00:59:29 GMT

Looks fake to me...

And why doesn't anyone mention that 10 seconds after her "touching moment" she ATTACKS Obama?

She finally found her voice... it's to steal Obama's campaign slogans about change, and to sucker women into thinking she's authentic.

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Galileo Galilei, All Mighty California — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:24:47 GMT

You poor cave-dwelling fools... The Clintons have done miracles with this country, without them who knows where we would be. And now you want to believe this "Dr. Feel Good" Obama who has a whole TWO years of political experience?!

Give me a break!

Long live the Clintons!

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Bobbie Campbell, Terre Haute, Indiana — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:31:06 GMT

This is the first blog spot that I have read pos NH primaries that gives me hope. God bless all of you who are far more articulate and politically savvy than I am for not giving up on this election yet. It would be so easy to just slide downhill for those of us supporting a non Clinton. If I were an author I would call the days immediately following NH a primer on oh, let's call it "The (Dis) Ease of Apathy." Not very original but my hope is coming back. Rock on First Read bloggers!

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:47:35 GMT

diane - exactly. She wasn't emotional over anything other than her own troubles. Hardly presidential. Neither is just now "finding her voice."

Regarding this story, why wouldn't she use text that seems to be effective for her? As y'all know, I rarely shy away from criticism of Clinton, but this one is kinda dumb.

Its hardly as noteworthy as her statement that "no woman is illegal."

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Jessica, Wisconsin — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 01:54:32 GMT

I wonder what the response would have been if Obama was asked the question, "How do you do it?" and then responded by saying it's not easy, it's very personal and then tearing up. He would have been laughed out of the primary that's what would have happened.

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Rick Lapin, Albuquerque, NM — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:06:31 GMT

So, Senator Hillary Clinton -- how do you spell relief?

D-I-E-B-O-L-D!

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Anne C. — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:48:04 GMT

Clinton and Obama both are channeling John Edwards. If anyone hasn't noticed they are lifting phrases and ideas directly from his speeches, they haven't been paying attention.

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SHIRLEY METCALF — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 02:57:27 GMT

THE NASTY LETTERS KEEP COMING IN AGAINST HILLARY. I THINK THAT CAN BE INTERPETED AS AS A REASON FOR REAL DEMOCRATS TO FEEL GOOD. SHE MUST REPRESENT A TRUE AGENT OF CHANGE THAT THE EXTREME RIGHT ARE FIGHTING.
NO OME IS FIGHTING SO HARD TO MAKE A CASE AGAINST EDWARD'S OR OBAMA. THATS BECAUSE THEY THINK CLINTON WILL BE THE HARDEST ONE TO BEAT IN NOVEMBER.
IF YOU REALLY WANT CHANGE VOTE FOR HILLARY.
IF YOU REALLY WANT AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE VOTE FOR HILLARY
IF YOU WANT SOME ONE WHO IS EXTREMELY TRUTHFUL VOTE
FOR HILLARY
IF YOU WANT A PRESIDENT WHO WILL RESTORE OUR GOOD NAME AROUND THE WORLD VOTE FOR HILLARY.
IF YOU WANT SOMEONE WHO WILL WORK ACROSS THE ISLE, THEN VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS PROVEN THEY CAN DO IT. VOTE FOR HILLARY.
IF YOU WANT SOMEONE WHO WILL STAND AND FACE THE TOUGH VOTES, NOT MERELY VOTING PRESENT SO THEY COULD SAY THEY DID NOT VOTE FOR SOMETHING THEN VOTE FOR HILLARY.
IF YOU WANT A TOUGH NEGOTIATOR, WHO CAN FINALLY TEAR UP AFTER ENDURING NOT ONLY HOURS OF WORKING INCREDABLY HARD, NOT EATING RIGHT, RARELY SLEEPING
GETTING ALL KINDS OF TERRIBLE THINGS SAID ABOUT HER AND THEN KEEP GOING, GET BACK ON TRACK AND STILL CROSS THE FINISH LINE FIRST. THEN I SAY TO YOU

VOTE FOR HILLARY

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SUZANNE — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:05:34 GMT

she "found her voice"? Whose was she using before. WHAT A PHONEY!!!!!

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jstip, Perry, Ohio — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:10:03 GMT

Republicans and Independents as well as Democrats will vote for Obama. Hillary only gets Dems, (and even Dems don't want another Clinton soap opera in the White House). This is why we need to vote for Obama.

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Rober, Small town, IA — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:15:57 GMT

It never ceases to amaze me that so many ignorant ranters respond whenever a Clinton story appears.... Bill, Hillary... doesn't matter, the idiots surface. She is no more or no less "real" than any other candidate. Get a grip folks.... Hillary is not my choice for President, but the superficial spewage that seems to pass for reasoning here is insulting to all us readers. Put away your prejudices and look with open eyes at all the candidates. The field is weaker than any in recent memory. So, I will go with my old standby decider.... Who LOOKS like a president of the USA? I think it would be Edwards... or perhaps Romney... whaddaya think?

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Jerry Curtis" J.C", Washington, D.C. — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:29:35 GMT

Get your heads out of the sand, the women cares deeply about this nation. You can say all you want, however she will be elected the next President. And mark my words, she will be one of the "greatest" leaders this nation has ever had.If you would like to learn more ,please come join the conversation at hillaryclinton.com , we welcome you.

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Hill08, NYC, NY — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:46:03 GMT

The media coverage of the NH primary is very pathetic. They want us to believe (and unfortunately, it worked) that Clinton won because of her emotional moment the day before. If any of you who are intelligent enough to analyze the results of that vote, you will see that Hillary got more support than Obama among the >DEMOCRATIC< base.

I can't believe the constant scrutiny that Hillary receives through all media outlets, whether left or right leaning, and when you really look at the criticism she faces, much of it is about her personality. This nonsense of winning the primary because of voter sympathy is unbelievable; no matter what she does or how she acts she will always be portrayed in a negative light.

It is sad that there are fools out there who believe that this is a Miss America pageant where personality outweighs accomplishment.

Obama has gotten so much attention because he has the >endorsement< of the mainstream media, and unfortunatley in this day and age, the media is very influential to the point where Americans have become too lazy to think for themselves. But I'm glad that there were independent thinkers out there who didn't let the media vote for them on Jan. 8th. The reason why the older generation of voters support her is that they are not foolish enough to give in to the media circus of reporting the news.

Change is automatic once any of the Dems become president, and if you look closely, all the Dem. candidates have almost identical policies. Obama is admired because he is a good orator and although inspiring, we need to remember that we are not electing a priest. There is no talk about his policies and what he has over Hillary, all that you hear in the news and in the papers is the same cliche, "inspiring" "hopeful" "appealing". But never is there mention of anything further.

Hillary Clinton is the most powerful woman in the US and she is feared rather than revered by those who don't look at her closely. People love to hate her and they don't know why. But what strikes me most is how resolute she has been in the wake of the media barrage on her candidacy, and I applaud her for that.

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Lura, Philadelphia, PA — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:47:01 GMT

She stole John Edwards' words in the choking up moment, sa that "this is personal for me" and she also sounded like him in her NH victory speech. On the campaign trail, she is now talking about giving a voice to the unheard, the invisible--again stolen from Edwards. It's not that any one candidate owns certain words or concepts, but Hillary is following right behind Edwards and picking up the phrases and sentiments he used a day or two ahead of her.

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Sean — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:54:41 GMT

Jessica, Wisconsin: are you reading the "Go Obama. Yes we can off of a teleprompter"?

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Sean — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 03:58:25 GMT

diane: since when has Hillary welled up since the initial event?

Honestly, when will people give this woman a break. First she is cold and calculating, then she is trying to be too warm (and then accused of being insincere)...then people like Sara claim she didn't win NH because people felt sorry for her....and that Sara knows that she never cried when her husband was cheating on her (were you part of the white house furniture?)

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Not goin' for it in Philly — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:30:26 GMT

After 'her moment' she took about 3 secs to get back to her old ways. I don't deny her or anyone else feelings, but jeeessh, couldja at least wait a day or so??

What I want to know is: What makes up her 35 years of experience? Being married to the politician doesn't count. Imagine if a man married to a female politician said that?

(Oh wait... Is that what Hillary is trying to set up? Since she counted her time as First Lady, Bill will be able to count his time as First Gentleman? NOT!!!)

What a scary thought. That White House needs some fresh air!!

Obama for AMERICA!!!

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Bill Johnson — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:43:30 GMT

When I see a crying woman I want to send her some flowers or candy, but I do not want to vote for her.

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Arshad, Newburgh, NY — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:05:51 GMT

This lady should win oscar in fake acting category. 3000 people died in New York on 9/11. Thousands lost loved ones. No one saw a tear drop in her eyes. 4000 soldier are killed in Iraq. No one saw her got teared up. But when a woman ask her how she manage all these and who does her hair, all on a sudden she gets emotional. It's tear of fear that her presidential ambition was coming under threat as NH polls were suggesting. It was a last moment desparate appeal to women to rescue her. She was begging for sympathy. Sympathy of a abused woman earned her a senate seat in NY. I hope begging does not earn her presidency. I know it's fake because the sentence she said while teared up, "politics has become a game of who is up and who is down" is a much used Obama phrase in campaign trail. A sincerely emotional person does not use her rival's lines (many of them she stole). Now she is using her fake tears to all states. I am sure she will use them against Republicans. And then we this country will come under threat from some country, she will run this ad there to earn sympathy. What a dignified strategy?! Women who take pride of their accomplished should be ashamed of this low tricks of marketing a crying woman to beg for votes.
How low these Clintons will go?

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Sane in UT — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:16:14 GMT

She is moved to tears by the thought of losing power. I like the part where she said "I have so many opportunities for America". Is she crying for us? She must really think we are to stupid to function as a nation without her at the helm. I would like to see a commander in chief with less of a sense of superiority and, less inclined to break down in tears when stressed.

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Alain Blair, Chicago IL — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:28:55 GMT

Weird.

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Madeline, Tacoma, WA — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 06:32:07 GMT

Hillary wil win the democratic nomination, I'll tell you now. She will be our next president and she will be a great great one.

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CHRISTY — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 08:14:45 GMT

HEY OBAMA HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE SCANDAL YOUR IN RIGHT NOW! REZKO WILL SPILL THE BEANS ON YOUR ESTATE FRUAD IN A DAY OR TWO, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE IT GO TO YOUTUBE AND WATCH THE VIDEO FROM CNN AND ABC, HERE YOU GO http://youtube.com/results?search_query=REZKO
THREE AND SEVEN ARE THE ONES FROM TODAY, CHECK IT OUT OBAMA FANS, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO RUN YOUR COUNTRY?

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Mike Frazier — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:18:00 GMT

Whatever the truth about Hillary might be, Obama is manipulative, calculating and condescending.

This forum is almost exclusively a stage for blatherskites, so I don't expect to convince anyone; but, for the record:

In his "concession" speech, Obama stepped up his imitation of Martin Luther King. In addition to borrowing King's language and imagery, he began pronouncing words with an African-American flavor, to sound like King. For instance, the word "equality" would become "equaliteh," and the word "democracy" would become "democraceh." Whether such pronunciation is good English, bad English or simply regionally accented English is not the point; the point is, he hadn't done it before. He changed the way he spoke. Previously, his diction was indistinguishable from educated, mainstream, upper middle class English; however, now that the South Carolina primary is coming up, he changes his diction to the kind that will give Black voters goosebumps.

This is not merely manipulative; it is contemptuous. He is trading on the King legacy, as though sounding like King makes him like King in substance.

This isn't the first time he's shown contempt for the voters; but it's the most reprehensible example I've seen. He is trading on the hopes of an oppressed people, as though the purpose of their suffering were to elect him to office.

Obama is a skilled orator who evades specific questions about how he plans to achieve the grand goals he speaks of, hoping to get elected on style, appearance and the ability to stir the emotions of a crowd. It's as if Elvis were running for President.

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Phred, NH — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 12:44:07 GMT

Near as I can tell, you have a bunch of highly educated candidates who are devoid of simple common sense. As President, in order to accomplish any of your lofty goals you need the cooperation of both the House & Senate. Decide, who among the current crop will have such ability?

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IKE — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 13:17:17 GMT

Yaaaaaaaaaaawn !!!!!!!!!!!!

Clintons, just go away, please. We're already fatigued.

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diana — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:39:04 GMT

Repeating behavior that yeilded a positive response is human nature, and so automatic that people often don't even realize they're doing it. Toddlers do it, the elderly do it, everyone in between, and animals too. Why does this surprise anyone?

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Stephen — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 14:49:21 GMT

Marbw,

Thanks for sending the links. We Americans need to dive more deeply into the real issues and avert leadership that is taking this country down. The 'election game,I see ironically coming from the Clintons and Romney more than most of the other candidates.I see the'fairy tale'that Bill Cinton referred to, not as Obama's contemporary quest for unity in America, but as the futile effort for the status quo to continue to this country and have dominence in the world. We will never ultimately succeed as a nation unless we bring unity that empowers individuals to this country. The same 'Unity' practiced at home is neccessary to take out into the world. The swelling of voters at the polls,particulary the new voters Obama is drawing into the process is the dawn of 'change'. That candidates would cheapen the discussion of 'change' to serve their own ambitions smacks of everything we don't need in the White House. By cheapening the discussion, they are disrepsecting American citizens and the very democracy they say they uphold. I suggest we don't trust tears or anything else but a real discussion about the issues facing America and the world together.

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Cathy, Clinton, MS — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:43:59 GMT

I am preparing a leadership course on Trust and have been doing alot of reading and thinking about the subject. I know that trust and politics are practically impossible to use in the same sentence unless we're saying "We don't trust politicians".
I can't think of any examples in all of the reading and reactions to candidates that anyone has said, I support "so and so" because I TRUST that they want what's best for this country and TRUST that they will LEAD this country to make the country great, not themselves. Candidates who are in this for the country would not run attack campaigns on anything other than the issues facing this country. Attack the issues, not the candidates. Attach the candidates', stand on the issues, not the candidates themselves.

I, personally, neither trust, nor necessarily distrust, some of the candidates, whether they are Republican or Democrat. However, I actively DISTRUST Hillary Clinton and she would never get my vote. Never. I have seen too many obvious examples of her being politically expedient versus truthful and despite her "tearful" expressions of why, even though it's "hard" she's doing this for the country. I don't believe it for a second. I don't trust her.

I think Trust would be a much better catch word of the campaign than Change. Let's focus on TRUST -- but, then, perhaps the nature of politics in this country makes that impossible.

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Diego Santa Fe, NM — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:11:14 GMT

HRC Bashers: What a pile of CRAP. I can only imagine your venoumous day. How can we put down, and or "rant" about HRC again, and with a touch more vile. CRAP, CARP, CRAP, and then some more CRAP...

I am also strongly objecting to the new "Why Obama lost NH" view that blanes it on a subtle, racism. AGAIN what a total LOAD. The talking heads are out sprinkling this theory in Pro-Obama pep talks. I will not vote for Obama because he has not convinced me that he is QUALIFIED. I will not vote for Obama because of his patent distregard for the truth. He is a great candidate. He is a wonderful orator, but he is not my choice. If this is racism, subtle or not then this HISPANIC doesn't believe that the charges are real. To vote for a man only because of skin color harkens back to the SOUTH in the 60s when only white counted. Talking heads take a deep breath, and realize that Obmas lost NH because the Granite State crowd rejected Chris Matthews and MSBC's one sided view.
Chris Matthews should hide his Obama pompoms and once again report the news, not his anti-HRC feelings.

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bonnie - KS — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:23:35 GMT

Hilary is the ultimate trickster! She will literally use anything and anyone at her disposal to win this election. She honestly has no idea what she stands for. She isn't looking to help other people just herself. This is a power trip for her. Truthfully, I want her to win the nomination because then it will be a walk to the white house for a republican. If somehow she managed to deceive half the country into voting for her she won't have many left to govern. Everyone I know is moving to Canada if she becomes president.

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Lynne, Little Rock, Arkansas — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:34:10 GMT

What about Obama's association with Tony Rezco who was just indicted on fraud and paying politicians off to get favors. Brian Ross of ABC investigated it and reported on it just this past week. It is posted on you tube. Obama admits the house deal he made with Rezco's wife and quote said he was a "bonehead" to do it. Rezco is a major contributor to Obama's Campaign What about the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago that he is a member of. Go to their website. http://www.tucc.org/home.htm and also read the newsweek lengthy piece on it.
It is totally black as far as staff goes and primarily the congregation. Research it for yourself and you will see that they really do not want any whites in that congregation. They are out to destroy the whites and put the blacks in charge. It is a revenge thing.
What about the real lack of experience from Obama and his Muslim roots?
There is just way too many questions about Obama and in the end Americans won't buy it. A lot of these issues that I have raised here are coming out in droves all over the internet now.
That guy scares me a lot but he does make good speeches.
The Clintons have to stand against him but the race card is being played against the Clintons by the blacks and that is really unimaginable after all of the support they have given the black community.

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Lynne, Little Rock, Arkansas — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 16:50:02 GMT

Another newsweek article quote;
This is regarding Jeremiah Wright, Obama's Pastor.

There's no question that Wright has been a controversial figure, a passionate advocate for black self-help and to some, a radical. Jason Byassee, in a lengthy article on the church published in Christian Century magazine, said, "There is no denying ... that a strand of radical black political theology influences Trinity." He added, "Conservatives may find the Africentric church too political, and liberals may squirm over its revivalist emotion." But he praised the church's success in growing to more than 8,000 members, making this black congregation the largest single church in a predominately white United Church of Christ denomination, saying "the black church continues to makes converts in unlikely places, reflecting a God who makes a way where there is no way."

Wherever we looked we found ample evidence that Obama's church is pro-black, but we found none to support a claim that it is anti-white. Calling it "racist" is, in our judgment, a falsehood.

Newsweek reported this and they say "in our judgement"
it is not racist howver AMERICANS, MAKE YOUR OWN JUDGEMENT. It appears very racist to me.

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lynne, Little Rock, arkansas — Sat, 12 Jan 2008 21:04:47 GMT

"WAY TO GO CHRISTY" - EVERYONE HERE IS THE LINK AGAIN ABOUT OBAMA AND REZCO. http://youtube.com/results?search_query=REZKO

Yeah Obama fans do you really think a crooked politician, racist against white folks, inexperienced black man with muslim roots can unite America?

Can any of you really tell me that you totally dismiss these facts for oratorical skills.
We all that have good sense about what can happen to our country should Obama be elected have to keep posting on each and every legitimate website that we can and get the message out about Obama.
For the life of me I cannot even fathom any one voting for Obama.