Huck, the Constitution and 'God's standards'

Amy B Portland, ME — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:37:37 GMT

I honestly don't get what is so scary to the Huckabee crowd about gay marriage that they want to amend the constitution to prevent it. What's the threat?

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Kathryn in Bham — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:37:53 GMT

I would like to know when and where this speech took place. I think it sounds as though he was talking to a predominantly christian audience...just wonder if that is the case and that detail was left out. Does anyone know? I would say it appears to have been last night, but I would like clarification. Thanks!

I would also like to see a transcript of EXACTLY what was said and a context. I am curious as to what all his plans included and how that unfolded!

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Stunned — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:39:30 GMT

Wow. Separation of church and state. By the way which of god standards are wegoing to use? Stoning?

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enufalready — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:39:58 GMT

So is Mike making a veiled inference of sola scriptura?

Who is he accusing of trying "to change the word of the living God?"

He just can't resist speaking in code. Evidently, they speak the same language in SC, just a little slower.

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Cris, Fort Worth Texas — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:41:16 GMT

My gosh..that was the scariest thing I ever read on MSNBC.

"God's Standards"....and so I guess that means the rest of us are wanting Satan's standards.

Does this guy creep anyone else out? Like I see a Puritan society with women sporting Scarlet A's.
AAAHHH

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Rick, WS, NC — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:41:30 GMT

alrighty then, and who's religion and who's bible will be the new guiding light for our nations constitution....I'm thinking huckster is thinking it should be his version...while we are at it why not get rid of any other pesky parts of the constitution, say the one about seperation of church and state...beware the religious right, they want to boss you around

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Doug, San Diego — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:42:35 GMT

What a nutjob. Will he next call for an amendment to outlaw buddhism, judaism, atheism, etc? Will his entire cabinet be pulled from pulpits across the country? Even worse, will he pack the courts with even more incompetent jurist/Jesus-freaks? Haven't we had enough of this road, having the leader of the free world believing he was given the job by God, not by the people that voted for him? Get a grip, folks. Keep your religion out of our government. That's how it was designed, for the protection of both church and state.

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Ed Ayers — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:44:56 GMT

Who's god is he speaking of??? Well, of course it must be my own god, the greatest god ever! What other god could he possible be referring to?

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Shawn T., Brighton, TN — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:46:10 GMT

The first book to say murder was wrong was the Bible. Without the foundation of this Book. Our current constitution and laws wouldn't be the way they are. Huckabee is the type of leader that will lead all Americans well. You don't have to be an evangelical to see that Huckabee would be a great leader for us all regardless of our religion.

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Jon, Canton, OH — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:47:28 GMT

I can just imagine how Huckabee is going to get trashed for taking a stand like this . . . yet he's right. It's time to take a stand. Constitutional amendments are needed to protect the lives of the unborn and the weakest among us and the stability of the family. We can be a great country again if we remember that greatness comes from goodness. It will take someone like Huckabee leading these efforts to achieve them. I am thankful we have the opportunity to vote for a leader who says what he believes.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:47:36 GMT

Change the Constitution to be brought within religious standards?!

Huckabee just eliminated himself as a viable general election candidate with that terrifying reactionary declaration.

Even friggin' Brownback took a moment at a debate to point out that theocracy was a bad idea in the midst of his dogmatic rhetoric.

Huckabee, on the other hand, doesn't even offer the slightest pretense that he knows what country he's living in.

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CitizenJ — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:49:48 GMT

This should be the final evidence that Huckabee has no business running this country.

Case closed.

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Cris, Fort Worth Texas — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:51:38 GMT

Ok..I've calmed down from reading it and now I hope Huck gets the GOP nod.....its the ONLY way to ensure Hillary or Obama are a landslide into the Whitehouse.

Throw these comments out in national debates and television ads..and you are sure to freak some people out.

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Joe, Cincinnati OH — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:52:19 GMT

Huckabee is a nut job and I thought President Bush was bad until this guy came along. I agree with everyone above that there needs to remain a clear seperation of church and state and Huckabee can crawl back in the same hole from whence he came.

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David, Virginia — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:56:48 GMT

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rob in Boston — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:57:08 GMT

What's wrong with having religious zealots run a government? Seems to be working well in Iran.

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Darcy, AL — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:57:42 GMT

OMG, I never thought I would hear that. We must stop this man!

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Richard Fifield, Easton, PA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:00:03 GMT

I'm a Republican, and a conservative one at that, but this line of discussion scares me a LOT.

I fail to understand this intolerant streak in religions generally, and in the fundamentalist ones in particular, that seem to require everyone to think their way or they aren't safe to practice their own beliefs. Maybe someone can explain that to me, but to date no one has even tried very hard.

If this truly reflects his thinking, and is not just a case of playing to the house, then I have my doubts about Gov. Huckabee's qualifications to be President, or any other office under our Constitution.

Absent some clarification (one that makes real sense and isn't spin), this conservative, Republican, constitutionalist will not be voting for the Gentleman from Arkansas in November, or at any other time.

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Wayne, Mechanicsville, MD — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:02:11 GMT

As an Evangelical who has studied the Bible and theology, it begs the question: if you are going to amend the Constitution on those things because of the bible, why not foreign policy as well? I mean, the Bible does make it clear to love those who hate you and bless those who persecute you. So by biblical standards we should not have invaded other countries in response to 9/11. Those who live by the sword die by it. Mr. Huckabee, at least be consistent.

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John Doe, Seattle, Wash — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:03:23 GMT

the media is the media is the media'
we worship at the alter
of hysteria...
yada yada

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Barb Bennett, Miami, Florida — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:32:36 GMT

I'm a Christian - and I have NO intention of voting for Mike Huckabee!

God wouldn't want me to - for many reasons.

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Bill Johnson, Anaconda, Montana — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:32:52 GMT

I like Huke, but when a politician seeks to amend the Constitution to make it comply with God's Law, it scares the liven hell out of me. Remember John Anderson, ran as an independant years ago as a liberal. He wanted the same thing. Christ said to render unto Ceasar that which is Ceasar's. The Constitution is part of Ceasar's world, not the world of God.

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Kira, Utah — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:33:56 GMT

Oh my gosh. I am a very relgious person, but this kind of talk is part of what scares me about Huckabee. Regardless of whether or not the constitution mentions the separation of church and state, the founding fathers came to this country to escape a place where religion ruled the government. I know God exists and is concerned about our well being, but Huckabee is trying to force his brand of Christianity on the world. What makes him think that he has all the answers? Does he think he is the Moses of America? I'm sorry, but his recent record and life does not add up to someone who is a godsend for our country. The Bible says "by their fruits ye shall know them". Huckabee's fruits (acts) do not show me someone I can trust as a leader.

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betty in baltimore — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:35:06 GMT

If they really want to amend the Constitution, then OK, but then women and homosexuals should't have to pay taxes anymore.

Go for it, zealots!

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Hal, Quincy, MI — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:37:03 GMT

For those commenting on "separation of church and state" - do some research. It's not in the Constitution. Neither was it intended to be (when you do find its origin) as those that use it as a way of keeping the church from having a say in politics.

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Karl Boettner — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:37:43 GMT

You don't get it. Huckabee will be the Republican nominee. Huckabee is the true racist (his "illegal immigration plan" are code words for it's okay to hate all Hispanics and deport them all) and the true misogynist running for president ("God's standards" are a male hetero god's standards). The only way to beat him (Nixon's southern and west strategy 1968 redux) is an Obama/Hilary ticket to reveal this racist/misogynist (masking as hypocrite preacher - yeah, right 'welcome the stranger' as a core Christina value?) for what he is and out these continuing demons of American history and current society!

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Al, KS — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:43:29 GMT

If Huckabee is the nominee, and I can't imagine he will be, he will continue to whittle the Republican down to just the religious zealots. As a reformed, former Republican, I am now, not just a Democrat, but an energetic Democrat. If this continues, we will be down to two parites...the zealots, and everybody else. Many more moderate conservatives will leave the Republican party.

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Michael, Anchorage AK — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:43:39 GMT

Sean T, go read a frickin history book and get an education. Hammurabi's Code was the firs tto outline crimes, and defined murder as a crime hundreds of years before the Bible. US law is based on English Common Law, which in turn is based on English tribal law which predates the arrival of Judaism and Christianity in the region by centuries.

Christianity is not a prerequisite for the law, nor is religion necessary for freedom and American Democracy. Something the Republican candiates (and sadly far too many odf their blind and ignorant followers) should figure out.

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--NSMsnbc — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:44:00 GMT

"I believe it's a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God ..."
--M. Huckabee, are you talking out the same 'word of the living God'? Because it seems pretty easy for Churches, institutions, believers and non-believers alike to change.

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Brian, Dayton, Oh — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:47:52 GMT

1) I thought GOP wanted less federal decisions and more state decisions

2) Didn't we go down the path of amending the constitution for a social issue before (alcohol)? And what was the result? Oh yeah, it was repelled.

3) what if my religious views/understanding of "Gods standards" are different than his? Does he get to force his religion on me?

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ralph gelper,boynton beach,florida — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:49:46 GMT

is this guy kidding,or has thew US reversed 220 years of history.the writers of the constitution specifically wrote that the US will not recognize any religion,but that we as individuals have the right to.
let us not fall into the same trap that got us Bush for 8 years.Pleeeeze

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:50:31 GMT

Nowhere in the Constitution will you find Separation of Church and State. The reason for this is that our founding fathers did not believe in it. But they by no means wanted the United States to be a Theocracy. Many people throw around Separation of Church and State without realizing that it came from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson, not from our Constitution.
David, Virginia (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:56 AM)

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9 people in DC disagree with what you say...they are the 9 Justices of the US Supreme Court through prior court decisions, i.e., precedent, clearly defining that the constitution does, indeed, provide for a separation of church and state, even thought he specific words are not used...it's inherent in the 1st Amendment. I'm a lawyer, and former legislative aid, and current court employee, so don't make comments that you clearly know nothing about.

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Joe V, Lexington, KY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:50:55 GMT

Well, God says that you are either for Him or against Him. This is a choice we make. There is not middle ground. There is no way that you can serparate your belief with your job. It is the core of who you are. So, to tell Huckabee to keep his faith out of it is rediculous.

At least Huckabee is upfront with what he believes and doesn't hide it.

You ought to check what these other polititians belive because that is how they are going to run this country.

Mike Huckabee for President!

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Susan, MA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:53:44 GMT

I have been a Christian all my life, went to parochial schools. I was taught to embrace all religions and, there is no correct religion. I realize our country has been a majority of Judeo-Christians, but to judge someone else's belief and push your own as the the only one is scarey. Never have I witnessed such religious bigotry from Huckabee.

Rob in Boston is right! Look at Iran, is that what we want?

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Dan, Portland, OR — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:54:05 GMT

Umm, Biblically speaking the man takes a wife as his property. The marriage vows of today are a new societal/religious invention. They aren't Biblical tradition at all.

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Aaaargh, Madison, Wis. — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:55:17 GMT

So, since the Bible also says that women should never cut their hair, will Huckabee amend the Constitution to require that too?

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Kira, Utah — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:55:30 GMT

By the way, I tried to ask this question before on another page, but it was never posted. I really would like to know some respectful opinions, and this page seems like a good place to ask, considering the subject...

I consider myself prolife. I am against abortion in the majority of cases. However, I believe that there are some cases where, after careful consideration, abortion should be allowed. here are the scenarios:

1. conception due to incest or rape
2. the mother would die if the baby were born/carried to term
3. The fetus has no chance of surviving birth (for example, a friend of mine was 5 months pregnant when she learned that her baby had no amniotic fluid, thus his lungs would not develop. There was zero chance of survival. She WANTED that baby, but had to face the heart-wrenching choice of aborting the fetus or letting it abort naturally. Either way, it would die, it was just a consideration of when and how big... and the devastating posibility that the unborn child was already suffering.
4. Doctors determine that the child will be born with such severe disabilities as to render its life incredibly traumatizing and severely painful (I am NOT talking about manageable disabilities like Down Syndrome, I am only referring to truly painful, disfunctioning disabilities).

My question is, for those of you who think that abortions should NEVER be allowed, how do you handle these situations? I think it would be very difficult to create legislation that allows for exceptions, should Roe v. Wade be overturned. Obviously reasons 2-4 could be determined by a doctor or medical team. Perhaps this could be legislated: abortions are forbidden except when a team of medical specialists determine one of those reasons... but then what about #1? For many women, rape is worse than death. Some may be able to handle the trauma of carrying such a fetus to term, followed by adoption or something, but for others it might be so devasting/traumatizing that it could cost them their very sanity- which could also hurt the baby. Rape/Incest are already hard to prove in court. It is estimated that 1 in 9 women are raped (and that only includes those who report it). How much harder would it be for those REAL vicitms, when others start claiming rape because their one night stand turned into an unwanted pregnancy?

Don't get me wrong. I am totally against abortions for selfish reasons: sleeping around, pregnancy isn't convenient right now, never wanting kids, slipping up on your birth control, one night stand, drunken "mistake", don't want the weight gain/stretch marks, whatever. I think people (both the man and the woman) need to grow up and take responsibility for their actions, or better yet, keep their pants on. I think if a unwanted child is conceived it should be born and given up for adoption to some of the thousands of couples out there who desperately want children, but can't conceive.

I just don't know how you can force someone in one of these more rare circumstances to carry a baby when one of the listed results above could occur. That would be punishing both victims- the unborn baby, and the living, breathing, INNOCENT mother.

Please share your thoughts. I respectfully want to know.

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:55:32 GMT

Gee...a baptist minister Christian Reconstructionist presidential candidate that wants to change the constitution to meet God's standards, as he interprets them...and that is shocking, why? Huckabee as president would be the most dangerous thing that could ever happen to this country. He'd be worse than Bush if that's even possible.

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Phil, Aberdeen, NC — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:57:03 GMT

Mitt Romney a "flip-flopper"? I sure hope so.

When someone changes their mind or gains more knowledge on a subject to the point where their position on the matter changes, it is not called flip-flopping; it is called maturing. It is part of the political process to re-examine your position on important issues over your tenure and decide whether earlier positions are tenable or even justified any more. On the day Benjamin Franklin signed The Constitution he made this speech:

Mr. President, I confess that there are several parts of this constitution which I do not at present approve. But I am not sure I shall never approve them. For having lived long, I have experienced many instances of being obliged by better information or fuller consideration, to change opinions even on important subjects, which I once thought right, but found to be otherwise. It is therefore that the older I grow, the more apt I am to doubt my own judgment, and to pay more respect to the judgment of others. Most men indeed as well as most sects in religion, think themselves in possession of all truth, and that wherever others differ from them it is so far error. But though many private persons think almost as highly of their own infallibility as of that of their sect, few express it so naturally as a certain French lady, who in a dispute with her sister, said, "I don't know how it happens, Sister, but I meet with nobody but myself, that's always in the right."

Robert or RJ from UT and the other Mormon bashers deem themselves to be "always in the right" and we have seen how silly and maniacal their rantings are. Mitt Romney is the one I would trust my country and the welfare of my family to. And, if he changes his mind on an issue, I also trust that he will do so because he gained greater insight and knowledge on the subject and will work for our greater good in implementing his agenda.

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spencer, tampa, fl — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:58:35 GMT

The first book to say murder was wrong was the Bible.

Can you cite your source for this assertion, please? I've never heard this, and quite frankly, do not believe it in the absence of some form of proof.

Of course, even if it is true, this in no way means that our constitution is or should be based on God's law / the Bible / whatever. After all, murder is a state crime, and the Constitution doesn't mention murder anywhere that I'm aware of.

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 17:58:37 GMT

Amy B Portland, ME (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:37 AM)
A marriage amendment would be the least of it.
How about required school prayer? (to the one true living God of course) The Non Christian little children will just have to wait in the hallway during morning devotions.
How about an amendment to require Elected officials and public servants pass a religious litmus test to insure that their faith is acceptable? We certainly can't have non or wrong believers serving GOD'S Constitution.
Hey, I know! How about we call a Constitutional Convention and just re-write it wholesale.
The United States can be Born Again as a true Theocracy!

You were right Sinclair.
Here it comes.
Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross.

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Tim Sullivan Marietta, GA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:00:47 GMT

This man is clearly insane and totally incapable of leading a religiously diverse country. Whose God is he talking about? Clearly not mine. Imagine what sort of SOCTUS candidates he would nominate?? God help us all!! I hope he wins the GOP nomination. That will guarentee Obama or Clinton a landslide victory and massive gains for the Dems in congress. Go Huck!!

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Phil, NC — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:06:17 GMT

For those of us who have watched Huckabee with a skeptical eye since he weighed into this fight, his latest remarks about amending the Constitution in accordance with "God's standards" say it all. This guy is scarey. I must admit, I have even entertained the idea that he entered this race not because he thought he could win it, but to hurt the run of Mitt Romney by splitting the votes of the Christians enough to give Giuliani or McCain a better chance to win the nomination. I can guarantee that, if Giuliani or McCain get the Republican nomination, the Democrats will gain the White House

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Heath in Proudly Liberal Portland Oregon — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:07:35 GMT

PLEASE LET HUCKABILLY BE THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE. I THINK AMERICANS WOULD FINALLY WAKE UP AND SEE WHERE THE CHRISTIAN COALITION OF INTOLERANCE HAS BROUGHT US THE LAST 8 YEARS.

OBAMA 08!!!!

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Cheryl Chicago IL — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:15:44 GMT

Will we be banning shrimp? After all G-d says we shouldn't eat it.

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Zoomie, Omaha, NE — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:16:54 GMT

The Ten Commandments were far from the first laws to ban murder. Most scholars date Exodus as being written in the 13th Century BC. Oldest known laws against murder are from Urukagina, a ruler of Mesopotamia, whose judicial code is dated to the 24th century BC (and is, incidentally, the first known use of the word "freedom" in a legal system). Several other mideast legal codes barring murder also predate the Ten Commandments.
And if the Founding Fathers did NOT believe in Separation of Church and State, why did a Founding Father (Thomas Jefferson) spell it out in his Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, making such a separation part of Virginia's state Constitution?

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PollM, Dallas TX — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:16:59 GMT

"I have opponents in this race who do not want to change the Constitution," Huckabee told a Michigan audience on Monday. "But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

Should the Constitution be amended to be in 'God's standards'?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1544

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Jim, Nazareth, PA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:19:19 GMT

I remember a day when Mike Huckabee was on Bill maher's TV show. Huckabee said at the time that marriage should be about a couple who loves each other unconditionally, and that it was the unconditional love that gives stability and a sense of purpose to a person's life. I guess he believes that only straight people should have that stability and sense of purpose

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J, NH — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:19:40 GMT

I got the sense that Huckabee has integrity, which seems to be lacking in some of the other candidates. His being so overtly religious, and so wanting to mesh his religion with his politics bothered me some, but I was wondering if I could deal with that. Well, with his statements about amending the Constitution, he has definitely lost my vote. I don't mind if my president is religious. I do mind if he tries to force his religion on me.

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Oliver, Houston, TX — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:19:40 GMT

This candidate just plain scares me. The last time I checked we are in 2008! Why should we care who loves who to marry? Why should we care who decides to treat their body the way they want? By God's standards? Seriously...he needs to just give those two arguments a REST! I am tired of hearing about that. What about our men and women being killed overseas? WAKE UP America! Do we really want this guy to be our next leader? I would hope we would want to elect a President that will represent us, and not divide us as this past administration has done all across the board from this land to the entire world.

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Tony Iovino, Rockville Centre, NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:20:27 GMT

True Republicans Barry Goldwater and Teddy Roosevelt warned us about injecting religion into American politics. After the decimation of our party by W and Lott and Delay and the rest of the Southern Republicans, if Huckabee is the nominee I fear they'll be no more GOP north of the Mason-Dixon. The last Republican in NY, please shut out the lights.

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HUCKABEE NOT — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:24:09 GMT

HUKSTER THE SHUKSTERS GOD WILL GET YOU.

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Richard, Portland OR — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:25:32 GMT

So his position is: (1) The Bible is "God's Law"; (2) the Bible can't change; (3) The Constitution must be consistent with the Bible; therefore, the Constitution must be changed. Can someone explain how this is different from Islamic countries that follow Sharia law? And does he want to adopt ALL of "God's law"? How about the part that says, in essence, if a man rapes your virgin daughter, his punishment is that he must pay the father 50 silver coins, he must marry the girl, and he cannot ever divorce her? (Deuteronomy 22:28-29) How many people want that in the Constitution?

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Jim Herman, Plano, Texas — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:25:35 GMT

Huckabee, Huckabee
He's our man!
Taking us back
In a Flintstones Van.

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Lt. Col. J. C. King — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:27:28 GMT

All of this potitical hot air. Perhaps all of this was best in summary on a bumper sticker I saw on a car when Ann Richards was running for reelection as Texas govenor here in Texas some years ago. The bumper sticker was to the point. Do we really need a govenor in Texas!?

In that same thought patten. Do we really need a president in the United States? Personally all of those running for the president's office regardless of party don't thrill me at all.

Huck is better than all of the lot now "running" but that doesn't comfort me a lot either. Just as long as we don't get Hillary. One Clinton the first time was more than enough and Hillary only wants to make sure that she is "appointed for life!" Her agenda sounds like the dictators from some South American country to me for her to get "elected". So much for your rights and well being if she gets in! You can kiss your life goodbye!

What ever happened to being an independent like I am proud to say I am? No heck with political party. All of them are not trustworthy!

Sign me a disgusted and fed up fiscally responsible former retired US Army officer who thinks it is sad that not one is a leader in this stirred up mess. There are no clear leaders in all of this. Like trying to see in a glass container that has all of the mud and dirt stirred up.

Proudly served as a Lt. Col for 30 years both active and reserve time from 1969-1991 included having the first Clinton call my unit to active duty and sent to Bosnia! Thanks a lot Bill Clinton for trying to kill me off again! I'll make sure that everone knows that Hillary is just more of the the same lies, threats and empty promises that any Clinton in politics is an assurance of more of the same!

Lt. Col. J. C. King

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Just asking — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:30:42 GMT

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Neither too much right or too much left or there will be NOTHING left — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:32:05 GMT

"... specifically called for the Constitution to be brought within "God's standards,"

Does this scare anyone else, or is it just me?

If the bedrock of the separation of church and state means nothing to this man, what does?

Fortunately I think he just signed his death warrant with mainstream America, which - contrary to some opinion - is STILL the majority.

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Count one more out — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:34:16 GMT

Change the Constitution to be brought within religious standards?!

This makes his beliefs on evolution seem tame!

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Wufpakmom, Illinois — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:34:44 GMT

Nowhere in the Constitution will you find Separation of Church and State.

David, Virginia (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 11:56 AM)

"But no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States."
United States Constitution, Article VI:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof"
United States Constitution, Amendment I

"Change the constitution so that it's in God's standards"? Not only is Mr. Huckabee in favor of altering the constitution on religious grounds, but he seems to think that only he can pass the religious test necessary to become this nation's Chief Executive. With the help of HIS God, of course.

I used to think this guy was just a buffoon - National Prohibition on Tobacco, etc. Then I read about his animal-torturing kid and daddy's attempt to cover up the crime. So I thought he was just another corrupt politician. Now I read this and I'm conviced he's truly a dangerous being - a demagogue in the worst sense of the word.

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Greg R., Spokane, WA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:46:41 GMT

Screeeeeech. I used to like Huckabee.

I prefer McCain now.

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Mike, Hermosa Beach, CA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:52:58 GMT

While I feel nauseated by all of the establishment darlings, Mike Huckabee really gets my skin crawling. His advocation of a Constitutional amendments to prohibit abortion and gay marriage is vexing in the extreme.

Ron Paul, folks, we need Ron Paul.

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franklin thigpen harrisburg, nc — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:02:09 GMT

It is about values. The writers of the constitution would turn in their grave if they knew america is in the shape it is. It is a total shame that you have to spell out what really is a marriage these days. America is a total mess and totally lacks values in these times. Sadly most of these posters get their dresses blown up when someone takes a stand about american values. Wake up america!!!

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HP Boston — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:02:30 GMT

Someone saw the Huck at a local SC hardware store. He says the Huck was loading up on wood, hammers, nails and body bags. The Huck said he wants capital punishment done in the biblical fashion, on a cross with nails in hands and feet. He also said the Huck would not change the constitution just leave it up to the states. He will push for this in his State and others. It could be a campaign smear by Romney but no one knows. I am a practicing media operative so I insert full disclosure here.

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doofman, chicago, il — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:05:42 GMT

From the 1796 Treaty of Tripoli, passed unanimously by the US Senate, signed by John Adams:

Article 11: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion..."

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William in MT — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:13:34 GMT

Everyone has a reason for what they want to do. Amend the constitution, give an executive order, propose legislation, etc. At least, Huckabee is up front about his foundational reasons for what he wants to do. Why do the other candidates want to act?

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Sally — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:14:34 GMT

Constitutional amendments along these two lines have been discussed and promoted for years by conservatives. There's nothing new here under the sun.

Our country has degraded morally till it's to the point of destruction and all these posters can do is rant and rave: "We want MORE sin and destruction! Leave us to wallow in it, please!"

There is no separation of church and state and there have been other Constitutional amendments in the past to improve the document without all this hysteria. Grow up, people.

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Del & Leslie McMillan, Brooklyn, NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:22:36 GMT

Governor Huckabee has it exactly right. Notice that he is specifically talking about only two issues: protection of innocent human life and marriage between one man and one woman. These are bedrock issues of civil society. Our crazy anything-goes "morality" has brought nothing but trouble and heartbreak -- the unavoidable consequence of violating God's laws. We need to get back to the place of His blessing. Constitutional amendments for life and marriage would help.

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Jo Tiner, Lake Kiowa, TX — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:25:55 GMT

The US constitution has been amended many times. The only amendment Gov. Huckabee was referring to was one to protect the sanctity of life. Besides, if I remember correctly one of the rights endowed by the constitution is the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is no secret that Mike Huckabee is strongly pro-life.

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MikeJay — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:26:21 GMT

As a Christian, it seems to me that Huckabee is appealing to the brainless of Evangelicals, or is running for President of the Evangelical nation. There are some very smart Evangelicals that see right through this.

One preacher discussed how it is religions job to take care of the poor and destitute, and he found it offensive that Huckabee thinks it should be government's job. He also pointed out how disappointing it is for Huckabee's pardons/commutations are evidence of his religion getting in the way of his governing. It is Christian to forgive the sinner...but he thought he was God and let murderers go because he thought they found Jesus. His record is very questionable with ethics violations, raising taxes (he calls the hope) big time, over 1300 commutations/pardons, and poor on illegal immigration (although he did read an article on National Review and it's now called his plan). But he also yields his religion as a weapon in claiming that any candidate who questions his record..is somehow attacking him. It's shrewd..borderline smart..but he really gives Evangelicals a bad name (cue the Bon Jovi). And I know not all Evangelicals are lemmings...but if you look at who really votes for him...it's obvious.

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zeezil, Mooresville, NC — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:26:56 GMT

Huckabee’s Liabilities

Politico.com and others have reported that Mike Huckabee has had 14 ethics complaints filed against him, yielding 5 admonitions and $1,000 in fines from the Arkansas Ethics Commission. Instead of cooperating with the Arkansas Ethics Commission, Huckabee twice filed lawsuits to shut it down.

On a number of occasions, Huckabee failed to report cash payments he made to himself. For example, according to The Associated Press, Huckabee received, but failed to report, “$43,150 from his 1994 lieutenant governor's campaign for use of his personal airplane, $14,000 Janet Huckabee received from his 1992 U.S. Senate campaign, and $23,500 from a tax-exempt organization he incorporated with others in 1994, but whose funding source isn't known…”

According to the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, Huckabee “depleted the governor's office emergency fund in the final weeks of his administration in part to pay for the destruction of computer hard drives in his office.”

According to a recent article in National Review, Huckabee had a penchant for accepting gifts while serving in public office. “A $200 stadium blanket, $250 in dental care, a $600 chainsaw, and a $3,700 pair of cowboy boots were among 300 gratuities Huckabee accepted totaling $130,000. Like the Clintons loading their moving van with White House antiques, Huckabee tried to claim for himself some $70,000 in furniture donated to the governor’s mansion.”

Federal Level:

2006: Supported President Bush's immigration plan and claimed that opposition to Bush's proposal was driven by "racism or nativism" and that it wasn't amnesty.

Wrote in his 2007 book that implementing strict enforcement of immigration laws "would be sheer folly" and that it made sense to give "those here illegally a process through which they pay a reasonable fine in admission of their guilt for the past infraction of violating our border laws and agree to adhere to a pathway toward legal status and citizenship."

Huckabee has released a 9-point immigration plan as a cornerstone of his 2008 presidential campaign. It is disingenuous at best, deceitful at worst. His plan repeal the current law of multi-year baring of illegals to re-enter the U.S. for illegals who register during a 120-day period with Homeland Security and temporarily exit the country (for only a few days, at most). It is also highly likely that many would not even leave the country but would be allowed to go to their nearest consulate on American soil for paperwork.
They would face no penalty if they apply to immigrate back to U.S. (they'd be back in within just days). He would not utilize the current processing and vetting of immigrant applications (too slow for him and their illegal employers) but would set up special processing for these ‘special case formerly illegal’ immigrants. He also would reward these lawbreakers (and their law-breaking employers) by legalizing the former illegal and then returning them quickly which would allow the aliens to keep the very jobs they broke into the country and took. The employer of the illegal alien would be without his worker for only a few days at most and upon their return would have the extra bonus of a newly minted legal employee. This whole process is known as Huckabee’s “touchback” provision, though Huckabee dodges the question if asked directly, which almost no one in the media has done.

Huckabee has the backing of the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) which is a globalist, open borders, international world government organization headquarted in New York. The CFR's increased focus on Huckabee began with a speech on foreign policy posted September 28 on the Council on Foreign Relations website. The Sept. 28 speech, delivered at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C., focused entirely on foreign policy, portraying Huckabee as a supporter of Bush administration policy in Iraq and for the golbalist agenda. Curiously, the sudden rise in Huckabee’s surge in the polls coincided with the CFR’s backing.

Huckabee has told the Christian Broadcasting Network he had a theology degree, he told voters in Iowa he had a theology degree, he repeated the claim in November’s CNN YouTube debate ... but, his campaign now says, it was not true.

In Arkansas:

As Governor, Huckabee fought for in-state tuition and taxpayer funded scholarships for illegal immigrants. He championed an effort in Arkansas to give in-state tuition at state colleges and taxpayer-funded scholarships to illegal immigrants, similar to the DREAM Act proposal at the federal level.

During the 2001 regular session of the Arkansas Legislature, Mike Huckabee supported giving driver's licenses to illegal aliens. Huckabee's spokesman during the entire process was Robert Trevino, Arkansas liason to the Department of Human Services. At the same time that he held this state position, Trevino was also the director of the League of United Latin American Citizens (LULAC). This group is a large, well funded advocacy group, of which part of their platform is advocacy for illegal aliens and reduced immigration enforcement and border controls. They explicitly campaign for amnesty and oppose any efforts of immigration control in order to maximize Latino voting power. In June 2005, Huckabee was the keynote speaker at the national LULAC convention in Little Rock and in his speech advocated for open borders and amnesty. He also called immigration enforcement efforts within the U.S. as “un-Christian, un-American, irresponsible and anti-life.”

He opposed legislation to require proof of citizenship in order to obtain public benefits and to vote. When Republican state senators in Arkansas proposed legislation modeled after Arizona's Proposition 200 [to require proof of citizenship for voting and public benefits], "Huckabee described it as 'inflammatory ... race-baiting ... demagoguery.' He said the bill, which seeks to forbid public assistance and voting rights to illegal immigrants, 'inflames those who are racist and bigots and makes them think there's a real problem. But there's not.'"

Huckabee opposed a raid on illegal immigrants in an Arkansas poultry plant even though calls to his office were "about 1,000 to one" against his stance.

Helped lead the effort to open a Mexican Consulate in Little Rock to issue Matricula Consular cards to Mexicans living in the U.S. (including those in the U.S. illegally). Many banks, including some in Arkansas, accept the card as a valid form of identification.

In order to draw a Mexican Consulate to Little Rock, Huckabee huddled with some of the state's most prominent and politically powerful businesses to draw illegal immigrants to Arkansas to provide employers (mainly agricultural, meat processing and packing plants and Wal-Mart) with a large force of cheap foreign labor. Huckabee even went so far as to travel to Mexico in October 2003 to cement relationships with Vicente Fox, then Mexico’s president, to establish the Mexico – Little Rock connection. Additionally disturbing is that Huckabee enticed Mexico to Arkansas with a practically free use of office space (actually a paltry $1 per year lease) as their consulate was being built. Huckabee facilitated a consortium of Arkansas corporations pledge to fund the building costs of the consulate AND to financially support Mexico’s presence there during the first three years.
"Huckabee's real goal was to create the Mexican consulate as a magnet to bring illegal alien workers into the state," McCutchen said, "to benefit companies like Tyson Foods, Wal-Mart, OK Foods, Simmons Foods, George’s Farms, Inc. and a host of smaller operations who wanted to employ the illegals for their cheap labor."

For 10 years, as governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee supported amnesty and taxpayer-financed welfare and health care for illegal aliens and increased taxes numerous times. Now, after sniffing the political winds, he poses as tough on illegal aliens and a tax-whacker. It is not that uncommon for candidates to state things that are politically expedient to get elected, then revert back to their DNA exhibited from their past records after reaching office. Huckabee’s past record is one of coddling illegal aliens, hiking taxes, shady ethics and liberal use of his power of pardon that enabled some rapists and murder’s to ply their trade once again after hitting the streets.
To deny illegal aliens tax-paid welfare and health care, plus low in state college tuition rates, would not be “Christian,” Huckabee said many times.

“As governor of Arkansas, Mike Huckabee aggressively pushed for the early release of a convicted rapist despite being warned by numerous women that the convict had sexually assaulted them or their family members, and would likely strike again. The convict went on to rape and murder at least one other woman.
Confidential Arkansas state government records, including letters from these women, obtained by the Huffington Post and revealed publicly for the first time, directly contradict the version of events now being put forward by Huckabee.”

During his time as Arkansas governor, a net increase of taxes to the tune of $505 million dollars was leveled on the citizens of Arkansas.

"[Huckabee] hiked state spending 65.3%, from 1996 to 2004. He supported five tax increases. During his tenure, the number of state employees increased over 20% and Arkansas' general obligation debt rose by almost $1 billion.”

The Arkansas Journal blog has uncovered a video showing Huckabee begging the state legislature to raise taxes. He says: “Some have suggested [increasing the tax on tobacco at the retail level]. If that ends up being your preference, I will accept that. Others have suggested a surcharge on the income tax; that’s acceptable; I’m fine with that. “Others have suggested, perhaps, a sales tax; that’s fine. Yet others have suggested a hybrid that will collect some monies from any one or a combination of these various ideas, and if that’s the plan that the House and Senate agree upon, then you will have nothing but my profound thanks.”

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Tam, Ventura, CA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:29:54 GMT

Everyone has faith in something. We all, through life, develop basic beliefs that govern what we do, say, and stand for. It is very important that you research what all the candidates foundational beliefs are, as each and every one of them will indeed govern by them. Read about their history, those they strongly respect and why. There are plenty of belief systems represented that are much more frightening than that of believing in a loving God.

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suzanne, Richmond, VA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:33:50 GMT

I finally heard the entire context of Mike Huckabee's speech about changing the Constitution. The media took snippets of it and therefore, took it out of context. Huckabee was not referring to the gay marriage issue, rather, he was referring to an amendment to protect the right to life of the unborn and the disabled. His beliefs stem from his core convictions which are biblically based. I've heard Huckabee say every life has intrinsic value regardless of age, disability, ethnicity, social class, etc.. I know this is a difficult subject to grasp if you are anti-war, however, Huckabee does not want those without a voice (unborn & disabled particularly) to have their life unvoluntarily taken from them. Our soldiers fight in Iraqi because they voluntarily want to, no one has forced their lives from them. Most American soldiers today are answering a noble and high calling to defend this Nation from our enemies. With the right to life, there is a distinction between a voiceless unborn child and a volunteer soldier.

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ND, ND, South Dakota — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:35:09 GMT

Oh please, will you people grow up. This is a classic political grandstand. You need 75% of the states to change the constitution and the stupid bill doesn't stand a chance in Congress to begin with.

For conservatives, this is a symbolic issue about reversing the trend in our culture toward the destruction of the traditional family unit. I don't see anything controversial in that.

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Robert McDonald Lancaster Ca. — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:36:09 GMT

The only question that needs to be answered is are there virsions of truth?

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bc Indiana — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:44:19 GMT

Hmmmmm.... the true colors surface. Instead of abiding by the wisdom of the Constitution Mr. Huckabee now wants to change it to suit his particluar views.

What's next..... a religious Test to qualify for a job?

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Kira, Utah — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:45:56 GMT

Franklin- no, most of these posters SUPPORT AMERICAN values. What we don't support is Huckabee attempting to force his PERSONAL interpretation of his religious values on us. AMERICAN values include freedom- of religion, speech, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Socially conservative values are against abortion and gay marriage. Lots of people support those things who do not practice the same religion as Huckabee.

He is over the top and scary. He would destroy what this country stands for. Please, ANYONE but him.

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:52:09 GMT

The so called Values voters nonsense is a distraction from the real issues that face and threaten this nation...

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Karl Thorpe, VA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:57:46 GMT

Although I agree that marriage between a man and a woman should be protected, a presidential candidate should be able to outline a better argument for implementing such a rule. Basing national policies upon the scriptures is not wise. I prefer Mitt Romney's argument--that marriage should be protected out of fairness to the unborn, i.e., every child has the right to a loving mother and father. I'm sure Mitt shares the same bible-based reverence for marriage, but he understands that this country is made up of millions of people from different faiths, and policies should not rest solely upon an appeal to the Bible.

I do not doubt Huckabee's sincerity, but I do not think that he understands the role of religion vis-a-vis government.

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Mark, Columbus, OH — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 19:57:50 GMT

I caught this speech on MSNBC and my first reaction was, "What did he say ?!?!?!"

I can only assume Gov. Huckabee's handlers fouled up. They should have saved the fire and brimstone speech for South Carolina, not Michigan.

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:03:07 GMT

So his position is: (1) The Bible is "God's Law"; (2) the Bible can't change; (3) The Constitution must be consistent with the Bible; therefore, the Constitution must be changed. Can someone explain how this is different from Islamic countries that follow Sharia law?

Richard, Portland OR (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 1:25 PM)

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Rich, I've been warning y'all on this post that Huck is a Christian Reconstructionist. That movement wants to impose strict biblical law on all of us just like muslims do with Sharia law. Scary that he's a serious presidential candidate.

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Alan, Boiling Springs, NC — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:07:26 GMT

America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great.
Alexis de Tocqueville

Our forefathers who were deeply religious men, statemen, warriors, and family men crafted the Constitution to protect all citizens (religious or not religious). But, they also knew that our government would not survive if the moral foundations of our society were eroded (example Ancient Rome's slow death). The Constituion was crafted to protect life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Protecting the ancient, historical, tradition of marriage and the weakest, most innocent, and most dependent members of our society - the unborn children is what will help keep this nation of ours a "good" and "great".

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Hucksuck — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:12:49 GMT

"it's a lot easier to change the constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God"

You lazy, Huck?

Everytime I start thinking something nice about this flat-earther, I read something like this.

Huckabee (and the rest of you holy-than-thou hypocrites): you're not going to shove your God down my throat any more than the "Islamofascists" that you all copy so closely.

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AS, Georgia — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:20:40 GMT

Okay, people, take a step back and listen. Most people in America seem to favor the idea of marriage between one woman and one man. Christians, Muslims, and Jewish faiths all indicate that marriage is between a man and woman. A person can do in their own life what they want to...they have been doing it for years. But to claim that someone is a religious nut just because they want to have that institution established as one woman/one man is just seeing one side. I do not want to have to explain to my young children that two men or two women are married. I am not raising my children like that and to say that gay people can marry is putting that kind of stamp of approval on it. Again, they can do want they want in their own lives because it is their lives (which Hucakbee has also stated, for the record), but marriage should be established for one man/one woman.

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:24:06 GMT

Besides, if I remember correctly one of the rights endowed by the constitution is the right to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It is no secret that Mike Huckabee is strongly pro-life.

Jo Tiner, Lake Kiowa, TX (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:25 PM)

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No, Jo, that stuff would be found in the Dec. of Ind. The provision in the Constitution you might be alluding to is in the 5th and 14th Amendments, which, prohibit the Congress and the States from passing any law that deprives a person of life, liberty or property without due process. Thus, gov't does, in fact, have the power to deprive you of your life if you are provided with due process of law. Therefore, the Constitution is not so pro-life as you think it is. Now, if you want to harp on the pursuit of happiness thing, then why would you support a ban on gay marriage? If you do, then you are depriving millions of gay americans who want to marry their entitlement to the pursuit of their happiness through marriage with each other? See how hypocritical and illogigal any argument against gay marriage is when you look at it?

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:31:29 GMT

Modern day marriage is a 100% product of civil law. Marriage in biblical times up to about the early 1800s was not a function of the gov't. Gov't started getting into the civil aspect of marriage when it became obvious it was wrong to treat a wife as her husband's property, to deny wives any ownership rights in their husband's property, and out of necessity to ensure that the husband provided for the financial support of his wife...and of course, to provide a mechanism for divorce. Thus, it is this new civil nature of marriage that gays want to enjoy, we dont' want the religious aspect of it...we want the civil rights attendant to marriage. And if you have a problem with that, too bad. This is America, and while majority rules, democracry also means protecting the minority from the tyranny of the majority...

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James L — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:32:18 GMT

As a very non-religious person (former Catholic), I'm not at all bothered by any of this. All he's saying is that it's more appropriate to amend the Constitution than to amend what is accepted as moral and right. Perhaps he could have framed it in a bit less religious language, but if it fit the audience, so be it.

He's not advocating infusing Christianity into any part of American life. Nor is he looking to have tent revivals and snake handling on the White House lawn. Abortion's a moral issue, not a religious one. He just happened to be conveying his stance to those who are more receptive to a Christian-oriented explanation.

Let's all try to tone down the secular rhetoric and overly dramatic reactions.

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Susan, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:35:52 GMT

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:46:20 GMT

AS, Georgia (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:20 PM)--
Marriage (Holy Matrimony) is outside the jurisdiction of the Constitution. Particularly if you attempt to use religious grounds to amend the constitution. Civil unions are under the jurisdiction of the state. States Rights.
If you don't like living in a secular nation that protects everyones right to believe as they wish and insist on cramming your beliefs down others throats then secede from the union with other like minded people form your own Theocracy. Check with Iran, they have been doing it for years. They may have some pointers for you. The United States of the One True Living God has quite a ring to it.
Good luck on that.

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Sally — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:46:36 GMT

Ah but Pat from Huntington, NY, an unborn baby IS a human life. Ever see a sonogram? Ever been pregnant and felt your baby move inside you? In just four weeks a fetus has a heart, fingers, toes, etc. and is already distinctly human looking. So the Constitution protects unborns; it's the unConstitutional Roe v. Wade (1973) that does not.

Also, never forget there are quite a few homeschoolers and pro-gun groups in Michigan and these folks will vote in the majority for Mike Huckabee, no matter how often MSNBC takes Mike's words out of context.

Jesus said "The earth shall pass away but my words shall never pass away." This is what Mr. Huckabee was referring to when he said it's easier to change the US Constitution, man made laws, than it is to change Jesus, the Son of God's, immutable words and godly laws set down for all eternity in his Scriptures. They are "written in heaven" forevermore ... long after you and I are food for worms.

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PAt Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:55:07 GMT

Just a reminders for those Huckabee bashers: why does the new President of US have to be sworn in with his hand on the Bible? (Not Kuran or any other book?) Why does the new President of US have to swear: so help me, God! Which God do you think he's swearing before? The constitution of US is obviously founded based on the Bible, so is the law of England, I believe. You're living in a Christian country, wake up! If you want to live in a Muslim or Buddist country, just go somewhere and establish one. If you live in US, learn the history, and respect Christiananity! Don't try to hijack this country and make it into a chaos like those other countries you wouldn't even want to live in yourself.
Susan, San Francisco, CA (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:35 PM)

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The short answer to your post is that the President is NOT required to take the oath of office on any religious book. All of them have chosen to do so. They can always opt to "AFFIRM" as opposed to "SWEARING" in their oath of office. If you affirm, you don't need a bible, and the oath has the same full force and effect as though you swore on the bible. This is true when someone takes the stand in a courtroom - they are asked to either swear or affirm what they are going to state is true.

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Pat Huntington NY — Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:57:46 GMT

Sally (Sent Tuesday, January 15, 2008 3:46 PM)

So I guess you are all ready to adopt all those thousands of unwanted babies after abortion is outlawed? Or ready to donate millions of dollars to care for them? Yeah, didn't think so. You and your tribe of right to haters, are hypocrits.

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Kelly, Concord CA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:22:38 GMT

Oops, guess they didn't pray hard enough...

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Andrew, Mansfield, MA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 06:50:55 GMT

Huckabee has no business running as a candidate, and especially as a republican. We, as republicans, should be AGAINST federal control of abortion, marriage, and most anything other than national defense.

Unfortunately all of the front runner republicans want to force their social worldview on the entire country through the federal government, save Ron Paul, of course.

The republican party is shrinking. It has been taken over by religious zealots and warfare statists, and if republicans don't wake up, we'll put another Clinton in office and continue this pointless war until at least 2013.

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James — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 07:35:36 GMT

Considering that 90% of Americans are christians,
and we live in a democray... most americans want to live under the law of God. Why are we always listening to the other 10%. I am sick of the liberal media attacking christians which represent the majority of America.
Quit smearing the Huckster. Thus far, he appears to be the candidate with the most integrity.
Go Huck!

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John Val Jean, Seattle WA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:17:06 GMT

Historically and legally "marriage" is a Contract, thats why its called the "marriage contract", to deny the right to contract to certain persons would violate other parts of the Constitution,

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dynmann, Broken Arrow, OK — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 09:38:32 GMT

Of course Mike Huckabee is taken out of context once again. If one looks at what he stated,he is not trying to push his Christian beliefs on anyone. Yes, he is putting God first as his standard in what he values (which people who are not Christian value) pro-life instead of murder and traditional marriage which is defined as between 1 man and 1 woman. Yet, these are not just a Christian viewpoint, but it's also a conservative viewpoint as well. I admire that he stands up for what he believes in! He's got my vote. Go Huck!

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Lauren, Ashland, Oregon — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 10:23:52 GMT

What is most horrifying is that after making this speech, this unstable Christofascist still came in third place in Michigan.

The GOP has for years been encouraging and rewarding voting by people who would make the U.S. a theocracy. With any luck, a Bloomberg run will render the GOP rightfully irrelevant.

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Bob NH — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:29:32 GMT

So does he refer to menstruating women not being allowed in public because they are "unclean," or anyone working on the Sabbath should be stoned, or we as "God's people" should slaughter those of other nations and take their land, or take slaves? All of these are "laws of God" from the "Old Testament." There are fundamentalist groups which want these Levitical laws put into the constitution.

I'm sure Huckabee hasn't considered those, or the fact that men in biblical times could have as many wives as they wanted, produce a male through a slave girl if their wife wasn't doing the job, and other things.

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margaret harnish las cruces, nm — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:32:23 GMT

If huckabee wins, Canada is going to have one heck of an immigration problem.

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Yikes, Elgin, TX — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 11:34:23 GMT

Why do some people think that you're directly attacking their religion just because you don't want to participate in it? Who cares what somebody's religious beliefs are as long as they keep them off me and keep their hands off the money I contribute to run my government.

And what is it about "mind your own business" that these religious zealots can't understand? What I do is my business. I don't need their help, nor their hindrance.

My blood runs cold when I think of the possibility that our US Constitution might be defiled with such nastiness just to satisfy those pressing for a theocracy in this country.

If they can't bring themselves into line with our rights guaranteed in the US Constitution, they need to rethink their continued residence in this free society. Free means just that. Free to make personal decisions independently. Free of religious dogma. Free of forced support of religious beliefs.

If they simply must have religion in government, I'd recommend that they emigrate to anywhere in the Middle East where religion in government is pervasive. They should fit right in there. Oh, that's right. It wouldn't be *their* religion. Too bad! Then perhaps they'd understand how we non-believers feel about the Religious Right's determination to infest our secular government and our public education system with their beliefs.

We've tolerated a great deal through the years. We've been pushed and pushed and pushed. Jesus said, "Turn the other cheek." Well, we've run out of cheeks. We're gagging on the stuff being shoved down our throats, often at the expense of our tax dollars.

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Mike48723 — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:37:49 GMT

It's not the only place Huckster wants to tamper with the constitution. He'd put the State Department and Housing and Urban Developement in charge of rebuilding Iraq. WTF !! He's picking up where Bush leaves off and EXPANDS the EMPIRE.

“We have to stop using our active duty forces for nation building and rely on other government agencies for building schools, hospitals, roads, sewage treatment, water filtration, electricity, legal and banking systems. The State Department should be in charge and coordinate with the relevant departments of Energy, Housing, Education, Treasury, Justice, and Transportation.

Speech to the CFR (9-28-07)
http://www.cfr.org/publication/14335/mike_huckabees_speech_on_foreign_policy.html

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RACHEL PITTSBURGH PA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 13:06:22 GMT

Huckabee has shown his true colors. There is something at stake here bigger than politics. It is our free will. It is our right to choose who and how we worship. It is what the current 200 years plus constitution is protecting. Our God given right
to free will. Wake up Evangelicals! Do you want anyone pushing their beliefs on you through government. It smells of communism. This is truly
a sad day for America that we even consider this type of guy for a possible canadate. Don't let the
guy next door fool you!

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MG, Hickory, NC — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:42:42 GMT

Several writers above said "Separation of Church and State" was not in the Constitution. Isn't that what "Congress shall make no law respecting an Establishment of religion" means??? Seems pretty clear to me. England had a state supported church, and the founding fathers were determined the new nation would not.

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Katie, Seattle, Wa — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:45:09 GMT

In regards to the separation of church and state not being in the constituion. I'd like to pt out the bill of rights and the establishment clause of the first amendment.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...." Together with the Free Exercise Clause, ("...or prohibiting the free exercise thereof")

Laws respecting the establishment of religion INCLUDE any based ON religion. Which is quite clearly evident hear. The bible and God are part of a religion - and using them as the inspiration of a CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT is ludicrous. Its not like we're talking a law here - its messing with the constitution itself on religious grounds. If this man is elected president - and these amendments actually occur, i promise you I will leave the country because the America will no longer BE America.

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Cuttlefish, New England — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:46:43 GMT

When you think about it, though, it is not all that radical. What were his other choices? I mean, you could bring it in line with the word of all the dead gods, but frankly I don't see that garnering a lot of votes. Or you could choose to have a constitution that draws authority from "We the People". As someone much more gifted with words than I am put it, it would be a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people."

And who needs that?

There's too much pollution in our constitution
As any good Christian can see;
Compare with the Bible, and anyone's liable
To note that the two don't agree.
And so, if we tell 'em it's just ink and vellum,
Not sacred like God's Holy Word
The people might buy it, and let someone try it
Although it seems wholly absurd!
A nip and a tuck 'd be just fine for Huckabee--
Really, I don't like the odds--
He already said it; he's ready to edit,
And substitute Man's law with God's.
This ludicrous scheming (I wish I were dreaming)
Must surely be nearing its end;
Voters, open your eyes, and say your goodbyes
To the Huckster's invisible friend!

http://digitalcuttlefish.blogspot.com/2008/01/what-thehuck.html

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Eve Crawford — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:05:57 GMT

Huckabee is preaching this message in SC Churches...Baptist/Pentecostal to name a couple.
Beware american "a wolf in sheep's clothing"
Signed: A Southern Baptist from Arkansas and 100% for Fred Thompson

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Eve Crawford/Fort Smith, Arkansas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:14:52 GMT

Huckabee is preaching this message in SC Churches...Baptist/Pentecostal to name a couple.
Beware America "a wolf in sheep's clothing"
Signed: A Southern Baptist from Arkansas and 100% for Fred Thompson

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margaret thomas,Elwood Indiana — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:18:00 GMT

Mike Huckabee is not a conservative and he's scary.He' not he "ordained" minister he claims it's proven,He did not get 80% of the peoples vote to make new roads because the question was not on the ballot-fact.He made up a number of 660 of Islamic illegals when Bhutto was killed and tried to cover that up with 2 more lies.He lowered little trivial taxes then raised taxes higher on the things most people use or need for out of this world hike .He says Fred Thompson was a registered agent to lobby for Libia -that's a lie=Proven.He removed things from the Gov. mansion when he left totaling over 100,000. dollars.Got his son 17 at the time off for crulety to animals charge.His off handed remark about Jesus and Satin being brothers was planted,a campaign person was quoted laughing this up on tape.He said after Iowa the other candidates should sit in a tub with a handful of razor blades.He wants illegals to go home for a few days while we zip through their citizenship then come back,What isn't that amnesty?There's more the Club for Growth and Human Events are flabbergasted he's even running.Face it he thinks if he quotes the Bible and tells jokes and flips out quotes of famous people that christian people are so gullible they know a con job when they see one .Are you kidding me President he should be Prosecuted!Im voting for Fred Thompson check his record at Fred08.com.Or anywhere else for that matter.He is the true conservative in the race.

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margaret thomas,Elwood Indiana — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:28:14 GMT

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margaret thomas,Elwood Indiana — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:28:17 GMT

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Gary Schear, bozeman Montana — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:39:59 GMT

Cuttlefish, New England--That was Great! Thank you.

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Hoser, AnyWhere, USA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:18:01 GMT

From a blog I read a couple of days ago. Seems appropriate for the Hickabigot to read:

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!" "Why shouldn't I?" he said. I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!" He said, "Like what?" I said, "Well, are you religious or atheist?" He said, "Religious." I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?" He said, "Christian." I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?" He said, "Protestant." I said, Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist? He said, "Baptist!" I said, "Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of God or Baptist Church of the Lord? He said, Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of God or are you Reformed Baptist Church of God?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God!" I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915?" He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of God, Reformation of 1915!" I said, "Die, heretic scum!" and pushed

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Eric A. Burns, Wolfeboro, NH — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:25:56 GMT

For everyone who keeps saying "there is no separation of church and state in the Constitution," and who clearly hasn't read the thing, a quick public service.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

See that first part? Huckabee is talking about amending the Constitution of the United States to permit the establishment of religious principles as national law. When you pass a law that makes a religious principle you hold dear but that those who do not follow your religion don't hold dear? You're establishing religion.

And the Founders were so explicit about not doing that they put it in the First Amendment.

Mike Huckabee wants to make my religious views subordinate to his religious views, and -- not to put too fine a point on it -- that's not kosher.

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CY, Cortez, CO — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:36:31 GMT

Huckabee is a fraud. Any Evangelicals following his 'word' need to do some research into this guy. He is the reincarnation of Bill Clinton/Jimmy Carter. Be afraid, be VERY afraid! Fred Thompson is the TRUE conservative who can get our country back to the founding fathers desires for it to be.

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Carol Bieker, Branson, MO — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:53:23 GMT

I am a Christian and I say Ron Paul for President!

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GE~pa` — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:53:31 GMT

Hoser, Anywhere USA--that is so FUNNY

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Ben S, Chattanooga TN — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:57:03 GMT

"referring to the need for a constitutional human life amendment and an amendment defining marriage as between a man and a woman."

Everything is taken out of context. He is only referring to these 2 issues.

The country is closely divided on abortion. http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2007/may/07051509.html

The country is closely divided on gay marriage.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/02/24/national/main601828.shtml

He was just stating which side of the fence he was on and why he thinks that way.

I anticipate his rebuttal to this.

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mulva — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:14:00 GMT

Mr. Huckabee seems to forget the reason that our founding fathers came to this country in the first place. What a frigging nutbar. Bill Maher made a great point on The Tonight Show last night about being in a battle with religious zealots (Muslim extremists), yet we have religious zealots here in our own backyard that want to run the country and want to interject their form of extremism into our government. This is pretty scary!

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jeremy, des moines, ia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:52:12 GMT

Thomas Jefferson was a proponent of the separation of church and state because politics pollute religion. He state that there was no example where a religious state government didn't make evil of and distort the message of religion. People always get this backwards and some how the problems of the state can be fixed by getting the church involved. In reality what experience and track record does the church have in the political and government. It is very bad.

I believe that Thomas Jefferson is rolling in his grave right now. Absolute truth clams like those of Huckabee are dangerous, very dangerous. They are going to separate free people and their right to liberty and happiness.

There is no reason to change the constitution and include divisive and hateful messages condemning and vilifying large groups of free people in the US. It is completely contrary to the idea of the USA.

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Rhys, Ann Arbor MI — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:18:41 GMT

As a GOP member since birth, I can honestly say that if Huck wins the nod, I'll vote democrat, even if that means Hilarycare.

I can't stomach comments like his. We are NOT a theocracy.

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John, Seatle, Wash. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:30:00 GMT

"Many people throw around Separation of Church and State without realizing that it came from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson, not from our Constitution."

That's not true. Separation comes from the separation clause of the Constitution.

Congress shall pass no law... and Religion shall never be a test for public office. Meaning, Huck saying he's more religious then me is he's using religion as a test.

I agree with the person who said Huck doesn't seem to know which country he lives in.

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Keith, Little Rock, AR — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:38:42 GMT

"God's standards" are simply those that Huckabee has already articulated already. Thou shall not kill can be translated to today's, we believe in the sanctity of life (pro-life). The Constitution says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech". Huckabee was exercising two of these points and not advocating any that would contradict the third. Not sure why people are worried, 3/4 of the states have to ratify an amendment.... if it gets that far and you don't agree, use your vote.

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Rhys, Ann Arbor, MI — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:40:16 GMT

"Our country has degraded morally till it's to the point of destruction and all these posters can do is rant and rave: "We want MORE sin and destruction! Leave us to wallow in it, please!"

Sally, we don't want more sin. We want God to determine what is sin, and our president to determine... well, nothing really. He's not God.

If you think it's the governments job to legislate morality, than your church sucks. It's not doing it's job if you think the President should be telling me what to do based on your morality. We probably share very similar morality as I'm a Christian, but I certainly do not want that holly roller in office. It's not Washington's job to legislate what God wants from me.

God gave me free will, it would be the least Huck could do to uphold it, but he wouldn't.

Go Ron Paul!

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Callie, Wheaton, IL — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:47:14 GMT

You cannot be an ordained minister and pledge to uphold the Constitution. Huckabee has shown his true colors. He can never take the Oath of Office honestly.
The Republican Party has been hijacked by fanatics and warmongers. Ecch.

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David, Virginia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:32:49 GMT

"9 people in DC disagree with what you say...they are the 9 Justices of the US Supreme Court through prior court decisions, i.e., precedent, clearly defining that the constitution does, indeed, provide for a separation of church and state, even thought he specific words are not used...it's inherent in the 1st Amendment. I'm a lawyer, and former legislative aid, and current court employee, so don't make comments that you clearly know nothing about."
Pat, that is the problem. The Supreme Court is not to MAKE THE LAW as they do, but uphold the law that was written. That's why the legal system is such a mess and the root of some of the problems this country faces today. By no means will I argue with you about law, as there is no doubt that your knowledge of law and how the courts work FAR out weighs mine. However, no one is without flaw in their thinking...

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Justin Altman — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:43:00 GMT

I wonder if Huckabee understands that most of "God's Laws" are cherry-picked every so often by different groups, and have been more fluid in the past 225 years than those "Laws" in the Constitution (including amendments).

Huckabee needs to learn how The Church of England fared in the long term, for one example of running a country according to "god's laws".

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Janae, Perry Ia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:47:14 GMT

Huckabee is a dangerous zealot. As an atheist I'm alarmed that as President he would force his brand of religion down the throats of Americans. No one has the right to do that. Tha Constitution is one of the greatest documents in history & its wisdom is standing the test of time. To amend it to suit one denominations world-view is an insult to ALL Americans. Let's hope that the public begin to see this politician for what he is--a zealot.

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Margaret Cahill — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:52:57 GMT

Hey Huck - take your "muck" and get back to Arkansas. I finally found out the meaning of "evangelical" and I'm sure glad I'm not one. Here it is:

E stands for evil
V stands for victory they hope to achieve
A stands for the Almighty they hide behind
N stands for narrow mind
G stands for God - he's too busy for these crazies
E stands for evil (in case you forgot)
L stands for Lucifer (who these people really follow)
I stands for I'm better than you!
C stands for crap they eject from both ends
L stands for liars

My granddaddy told me when I was a little girl that the only reason the churches had colored glass windows was so that the good people on the outside didn't have to look at the hypocrites sitting inside!
And that's all I've got to say about that!

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Sarita, NY, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:00:02 GMT

Does this mean that we can smite people when he becomes President?

Wait... I forgot... I thought there was supposed to be a separation between Church and State... Does he plan on removing Freedom of Religious Practice from the Constitution as well?

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Arthur Baker — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:01:34 GMT

You know, if you always do what you've always done you will always have what you've always had. Saying that, this country was founded on Christian principles by Christians who wanted religious freedom and other freedoms. They won that by going to war and winning it. So for 200 years this country followed Godly principles, even the Surpreme Court based its decisions on them and this country became the mightiest nation the world has ever seen, so we prospered using Godly standards. Now since 1963 when the Supreme Court decided to throw out Godly principles and atheists and the gay community came out of the closet look what has happened to this country, we lead the world in murder, rape, divorce and so many other things. Most of our politicians are crooked in one way or another. They waste our tax dollars, steal from our social security system, give it away to illegal immagrants, make it very hard to make a living wage by taxing us to death. And it seems like everyone wants to keep putting the same kind of people either in office or back in office. You keep doing that and it will continue to get even worse. If we continue to do what were doing nothing will change. After all, the Christian ways worked well for 200 + years and looked what has happened in the last 34 without them. I would rather live my live as if there is a GOD and die and find out that there is not one than to live as if there is not one and to die and find out that there is one, and then you have lost everything.

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Sarita, NY, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:03:19 GMT

I read in a very long post that someone said they were against abortions for "selfish" reasons... don't you think you're being selfish by imposing your thoughts and feelings of abortion on me? It's my body and I should be able to choose what I want to do, when I want to do it. If YOU choose not to have an abortion then by all means, don't do it... but who are you to tell me otherwise?

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American Voter, Anytown, US — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:33:56 GMT

(an oldie but a goodie, edited for current events)

President Huckabee,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind them that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate. IAs we re-write the Constitution to better confomrm to God's word as he outlined it in the Bible, I was wondering if you could help with a few things we should address early in your presidency.

* When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev.1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

* I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

* I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev.15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

* Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

* I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

* A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (Lev. 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

* Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

* Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev.19:27. How should they die?

* I know from Lev. 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

* My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev. 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev.24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help. Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging. This fine country will be so much better with your guidance.

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KarenK Williamston NC — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:51:57 GMT

Why is the media not challenging Huckabee on this irrational step toward theocracy? What is wrong with them? Are they going to permit the advancement of lunacy because it is coming from the mouth of a "likeable" preacher man? If any other candidate had said this, the press would be all over him/her. Silence infers consent. Someone in the media, please, have the balls to make this man defend this incredulous position!

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P.W. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:08:01 GMT

What truelly amazes me is that every four years the citizens of this "Once" great nation go to the polls and vote liars, thieves and perverts into office. Wake up AMERICA and ask these candidates valid questions like:
Have you ever accidentally left the office with a pen?
Have you ever looked at a woman in a magazine and thought: God I'd like to do her in my office?
Have you ever punched a kid becuase you thought he did something wrong to your relative?
Whats your family life like?
What is your favorite meal that you prepare yourself?

The president was once a well respected position in the world. Now it is ridiculed every second because there is not one among us that isnt trustworthy and doesnt have his own agenda.

I challenge you AMERICA to know your candidate.

There are several factions that have an impact on this country right now.
1. The oil companies.
2. The insurance industry.
3. The health care industry.
4. The real estate industry.

These industries all have more money than any individual and will spend untold amounts it to get their candidate elected and unfortunately the American people have changed the saying "God Fearing Nation" to "Industry Fearing Nation".

You have been duped into believing that "Your vote makes a difference". Whats next?

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Beau, New York, New York — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:20:13 GMT

It's ironic Huckabee's language is remarkably similar to that of the Islamic fundamentalists so hated and feared by his Christian right. Perhaps they think it's time to go back to Crusaders vs. Saladin. Just as Islamic fundamentalists argue for Sharia to be incorporated into governance in countries like Pakistan, Egypt and Turkey, so Huckabee and the Christian right are arguing for a Taliban-ization of the American state. Frightening -- truly frightening.

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Rev. Debra Haffner, Westport, CT — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:24:05 GMT

Huckabee: "I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living God. And that's what we need to do is to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines with some contemporary view of how we treat each other and how we treat the family."

There are so many things wrong with this statement that I hardly know where to start. In case it somehow missed you, he's talking about constitutional amendments banning abortion and defining marriage. But, what I want to know is how Mr. Huckabee thinks he speaks for all Americans in his understandings of God's standards. Maybe Mr. Huckabee doesn't know that the Bible doesn't explicitly address abortion at all, and that religions (and people of faith) differ on the question of when human life begins. Maybe Mr. Huckabee doesn't know that the Bible doesn't speak to adult same sex committed consensual relationships as we understand them today.

Rev. Debra Haffner
http://www.debrahaffner.blogspot.com

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Courtney, Boston, MA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:42:25 GMT

I agree with many of the posts. For a presidential candidate to undermine the separation of church and state and more importantly the Constitution is unacceptable. Huckabee has just thrown away any chance of winning the Republican primary or general election. All Americans respect the Constitution, I don;t believe any one of us feels it should be amended to reflect a particular President's religious point of view. This is absurd and I am in disbelief Huckabee would launch such an attack. True, many of us want change but this is not what we mean Holy Huckabee.

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Jon Hanson, Columbus, Ohio — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:47:01 GMT

Huckabee has set back Christianity 100 years. What ever happened to Grace? Free Will, the choice to choose God? Huckabee seems to only read the left pages of the Bible, he's more UCC than SBC.

I presume this episode will end his brief run. I wasn't for him anyway. He is the best religious left democrat running. The press loves him because he is destroying is destroying the religious right.

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Eric A, — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:02:45 GMT

What else would you expect from a dirty fundi baptist*?

That's the problem with religion, they *all* think they are right.

Folks if you vote dem or rep, you are prolonging a useless two party system. None of the candidates can relate to the average person in the US. NONE of them worry about filling up their car tank vs buying groceries, none of them ever worry about paying the heating bill and certainly none of them worry about paying the rent/mort on time...

* I realize not all Baptists are dirty or fundi but hucky is certainly....

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L.S. in Tennessee — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:04:48 GMT

Wonder how far we'll have to go with what Huckleberry's 'living god' wants in the constitution? Will we go back to stoning? How about slavery? Or killing our kids when they aren't obedient? Lots of really good and gorey stuff that 'living god' used to think was pretty okay and might want to consider again. Boy-o-boy, I just can't wait. Can we stone Huck's son? I hear he was into some pretty gruesome dog torture. Wonder if that will be a no-no on 'the living god's' agenda? Wish Huck would elaborate.

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tromba — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:27:58 GMT

"The first book to say murder was wrong was the Bible."

REALLY? Wanna bet?

And while you are doing your research, look up the word "theocracy".

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Josh Damon, McPherson, Kansas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:35:20 GMT

He was talking to Christians about two things that are IN THE REPUBLICAN PLATFORM! If he had made the comments about the amendments without mentioning scripture, this outcry wouldn't have happened, but the connection to the Bible would have been no less true, he's speaking from his heart and if you would rather have a politician that says what you want to hear, you have plenty of choices.

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Bill, Mass. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:46:33 GMT

The majority of all religions understand that their religion stands for love, peace and forgiveness. The far right in each religion are convinced that God hates the same people they do. Mr. Huckbee is the most dangerous of those. He can say these things with a smile and an endearing "aw shucks" that make people not paying attention, like him.

From what we read above, our country is made up of Christians who see Mr. Huckabee for who he is.

Thank God!

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Tacy, Albany, CA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:52:46 GMT

Translation: "I've just lost any chance of winning the nomination with my delusion that envoking 'God's Standards' in the Constitution is Constitutional."

Go Ron Paul; who may not agree with gay marriage or abortion, but wouldn't amend the Constitution to support his beliefs. Leave these where they belong, in the states themselves.

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Ken B, Fort Worth TX — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:06:22 GMT

First Admenment to the Constitution: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

For thoose who say that the constitution does not protect freedom of speech, you might want to read the darn thing before you post comments.

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john, Texas — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:23:44 GMT

Someone needs to adjust Huck's meds.

I, for one, want gay marriage to be legitimized. I'm straight and I'm married. I want every American to have the same opportunity to be as miserable as I am. I think to deny gays this right discriminates against ME because I pay the marriage penalty for them.

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liberalatheist — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:41:05 GMT

Wow.
Not only his view on guns is extreme (Hey, white trash gun enthusiasts, get a better hobby! Your sick hobby kills over 10,000 people a year!), but it is "God's standards" type of comment is the reason why I am an atheist.
I am glad I am no longer a Christian (I used to be a Protestant).
No wonder Christianity is no longer respected as a religion.

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flora follett — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:42:06 GMT

I am from Canada,a deeply religious country who is up holding the standards of God supremely. America, Do you want to be blessed and saved? well, live the standard of God's laws, rules and statues and commandments. Granted, there are weaklings among us all. America I ask in God's name follow goodness and truth and some day America will be blessed and free from all corruption and evil. A country cannot last in darkness,but when the light is found it will bloom.

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Gloria Svoboda, Jackson, MN — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:28:44 GMT

What is wrong with most of you people? You can talk against God and what it is to believe and follow him but you need to remember that one day each and every one of us will have to meet God face to face when we die. Then what will you say? You all know there is a loving God and He will come to judge the living and the dead. Are there so many of the poeple so immoral that you would let someone talk you into something that is not God's way. If we all followed His commandments the world would not be in the mess it is today with killings, wars, crimes, all the horrible things done to children etc. You all need to go deep down into your inter self and take a good look. Just for the record-marriage is between a man and a women. May God have mercy on us all.

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Kira, Utah — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:31:57 GMT

Sarita, it is not selfish to share thoughts/feelings. Sharing is the opposite of selfish. I was not telling you what to do with your body. I wasn't even addressing the question to pro-choicers like your self. I personally feel that abortion is selfish except in very rare circumstances. A huge portion of the country agrees with me- that's why it is such an issue among "value voters". Another large group agrees with you and I respect your right to feel however you want about it.

However, my question about abortion was directed to strong Pro-LIFErs. I am honestly interested in what they have to say.

So, for you pro-life supporters, my question is on the first page of this thread. I would really like to know your RESPECTFUL opinion (as that is how the question was asked).

It is curious to me that the only person to respond to such a question was someone who didn't actually answer the question and was not a person to whom the question was directed....

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Kira, Utah — Thu, 17 Jan 2008 23:07:21 GMT

Sally, you said:

"...an unborn baby IS a human life. Ever see a sonogram? Ever been pregnant and felt your baby move inside you? In just four weeks a fetus has a heart, fingers, toes, etc. and is already distinctly human looking...."

While I agree with you that an unborn child is a life, you should make sure you have your facts straight before you post.

First, you cannot SEE a sonogram- it is sound only. You can SEE and ultrasound- which is actually an image created with soundwaves.

Second, I doubt Pat has ever been pregnant, as he is a man.

Third, your timeline for a fetus development is WAY off. It doesn't start "looking" human until around 12 weeks. At four weeks, it is only a bunch of cells- no fingers, no toes, arms, legs or any distinct form. At 8 weeks, the embryo is the size of a peanut and is just starting to develop limbs. There is no heartbeat typically until at least week 5 or 6). At four weeks an embryo is the size of a sesame seed- most women don't even know (or have JUST found out) that they are pregnant at this point. It is a remarkable process, but slower than you seem to think. Just FYI.

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Diane Krall Sheffield, Ohio — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:00:41 GMT

"But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view."

Can you say the road to Theocracy? I am a devout Christian, but I am highly disturbed by a statement like this. Is this America when a Presidential candidate suggest that we rewrite the Constitution to conform with an interpretation of the Bible?

"Separation of church and state" is not directly addressed in the constitution, however this nation was founded on the principles of religious freedom. The Constitution was intentionally written without a religious slant. The idea being to keep religion, not out of the nation, but out of the law making.

"pray and then work hard, and in that order"

And I will, but it will be to do what I can to make sure that a religious agenda doesn't get into office. Again. This is scary.

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John Howe, Beaufort, SC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:43:41 GMT

It is sad to read the ignorance so evidently on display among the comments to this story. Have you people ever actually read American history, and in particular, the writings of the founding fathers themselves? It is obvious that most of you haven't or you wouldn't be making the ridiculous statements in your posts. America was (and is) a Christian nation, founded upon Christian principles, by men (who predominantly) were sincere believers in the Lord Jesus Christ. The freedoms that we enjoy are, to a large degree, based upon philosophies that are clearly spelled out in the Holy Bible. The Constitution will someday pass away (and America, too, if we do not repent as a nation), but Jesus said, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall never pass away." (Matthew 24:35)

People can "pile on" the Huck all they want. The reason why so many millions of us support him is the fact that he is authentic and genuine and doesn't need polls and focus groups to tell him what to say or believe. Unlike Flip Romney, John McCain, etc. Huck is "real" and as such is quite refreshing. As a member of the armed forces, I look forward to having this honorable man as my commander-in-chief.

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Bruce Midway Georgia — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:07:04 GMT

The Huck is out of his mind, this is Evangelicals’ trying to keep the flock dumb and in line. They attack hard science and history because it does not fit creationism and that there revisionist history.

This how theocracy starts and it will take guns to end it.

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Ketira, Palm Bay, FL — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:05:06 GMT

I may be a bit late, but I'm with Shadow. I know of several groups who would NOT want this man to be president --or else he wouldn't be president for very long if he managed to get into office.

After reading this in DOONESBURY (of all places) --Huckabee lost this Independent's vote.

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USC Trojans , HB, CA — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 23:46:46 GMT

Huckabee has told South Carolina voters that he supports the confederate flag and supports South Carolina flying the confederate flag. Does that mean that he supports slavery, racism, and the southern United States suceeding from the northern United States. How does he get away with saying these things. He has so many radical beliefs. He has supports a quarantine of people with AIDS (reguardless of how they contracted it or if they are little kids), criticizes people for their religious beliefs, claims to be the new Christian leader, wants to ammend the constitution to what he thinks God's will is, and now supports the confederate flag. I don't know how he is still one of the main contenders for the republican presidential primary. I just hope people see him for who he really is. A minister running for President with radical beliefs.

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Jake Johnson, boca raton, fl — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 00:54:33 GMT

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

That's the very first line of the constitution. That couldn't be more clear as a separation of church and state, congress shall make NO LAW respecting an establishment of religion.

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J. Quiles, San Francisco, CA — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 13:35:52 GMT

It's amazing that such a man is allowed to run for the presidency, not because he is religious (whatever that means), but because he wants to dictate to others what to believe in. The Constitution is the law of the land, not the Bible. What has made America great is the purported division between church and state and the libertarian values that are protected in the Bill of Rights.

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Seekermike, Des Moines, IA — Sun, 20 Jan 2008 15:02:40 GMT

So the Huckster wants to change the U.S. Constitution to conform to "God's laws". What if Mitt Romney wants to change the Constitution to conform to the Book of Mormon? That is why the Constitution forbids an official state religion, and why separation of church and state is a natural outgrowth of that concept.

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J, Pittsburgh, PA — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:03:26 GMT

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" + Amending the Constitution so it's in God's standards = Why does this conversation exist?

So it's been said America is a Christian nation. You people act like it's likewise held that the voice of America is the voice of "the living God."

Religious institutions granting marriages define the sacraments they're bestowing. Since civil existence is not dictated by religious precepts, perhaps this discussion would be better directed to the nature of civil marriage.

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JLB Florida — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:53:35 GMT

In the Fox channel debate with Chris Wallace, Huckabee also mentioned if he were in power "America would be the strongest nation on earth... heavy boots coming down on those that would challenge us."

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Jared Phoenix, AZ — Fri, 15 Feb 2008 17:01:39 GMT

Hey huckster what happenes when a Muslum, or Jewish person runs for president, are you OK with legislation from there books of god or are you just a hypocryte??
Remeber all religions want prayer and god's word forced down our throats until they realize it is not their religion!!

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Isaac Grove, Tampa, Florida — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:00:46 GMT

Huckabee is a RINO.... Conservatives have it all twisted around. Republicans were the liberals, Republicans were the ones that believed in civil rights... Here's what Lincoln, the party's founder said:

Religion and God have a big influence and is a great thing to have in our nation-- At the dining room table, in church, temples, and synogauges-- Not in the house, senate, or a politician's platform

That being said, Republicans and democrats alike are twisted. I'm a true Republican... Pro-Gay, Anti-War, Pro-Civil Rights, Less Gov't, etc... Keep the religious right out of our government... Once again, separation of church and state is involved. If the church believes that the government should stay out of their business, then they need to take their own advce "stay out of the governments business".