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Dpandrews — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:44:10 GMT

It is clear that Obama wanted to inject race into the campaign immediately after losing New Hampshire.

The very next day, after losing New Hampshire, his surrogate Jesse Jackson Jr., an official member of Obama's campaign does an interview with Nora O'Donnell on MSNBC and attacked Hillary Clinton.

Jesse said that Clinton cried in New Hampshire when she thought she was losing but that she never cried for people effect by Katrina.

Now talk about dog whistle politics. What to you think Jesse Jackson Jr. was trying to do, the day after losing New Hampshire, linking New Hampshire with Katrina?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:49:49 GMT

All the debate did last night is tell Americans that higher taxes and a full blown recession is coming; thanks to the democrats....

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David F, Pickaway, WV. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:01:00 GMT

I will not understand why a Mormon working for an obsolete Auto Company plays to this election! Will we see Javelins and Ramblers back on the streets?. Where are the minds of these people.McCain is right about never seeing the same jobs again. We won't see the same cars again! I learned in a 'great' high school in 1959, that one must learn to be flexible and fluid in this ever-going job search; to learn all aspects of the work environment, for there is always someone better, someone brighter, standing in the wings to steal your job away. Be prepared for the next job BEFORE that time comes. This is sound judgement now more so than in 1959. Don't cry over lost jobs, look forward to the next. We are making 'dumb' vehicles, always have. Face it. A Ford is not an ACURA.

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Ron, TX — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:01:05 GMT

Two points I want to make here...

First, Obama hit Hillary HARD with the politics of fear critique last night! That is exactly the kind of politics we need to avoid. We CANNOT and absolutely SHOULD NOT let the terrorists dictate who and why we decide on a certain person for President. Not only that, but the absolute irony: Bill Clinton was tested in 1993, and unlike the recent "British testing", the very first attack on the WTC was successful. The truck bomb exploded, killing six people and injuring thousands.

I am absolutely disgusted by attempts to use fear to elect a specific person over another. Issues, judgment, vision, these are the qualities we should be looking at. Fear of terrorists should NOT be a reason.

Second, why isn't there more coverage over the Hillary surrogates' attempts to Gerrymander the Nevada caucaus? I know that normally, all gerrymandering cries are at the mercy of how the Republicans are cheating Democrats, but this is very obviously an attempt at gerrymandering. Hillary had absolutely no problem with the caucaus sites a few months ago...

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Little Benny Franklin — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:01:42 GMT

Dems and independents will vote for the winning party, that is the dems. Mr. Jerry, everyone in and out of government is talking cutting taxes because of the recession, I think your thoughts are convoluted and with out merit, oh well republicans were never ones to speak truth when a lie would do the trick, one trick ponies only know how to feed the fear. Afraid yet?

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Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:02:58 GMT

I would just like to add how classy our candidates were last night when it cam eto answering the race and gender questions. I was surprised that Obama's camp at a 4 page memo on how to attack Hillary on the race issue. That's not to say Hillary may have had something similar. But I did think it put to rest that Hillary was the only one talking who had a hand in the previous days ridiculous commentary. There is no need for that in this election. I really think it's time for the media to stop pushing the race thing, so we could actually get on with talking about the issues like they did in the second half of the debate.

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Pat Harden — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:04:35 GMT

If these three are shellshocked from the last 72 hours over the little issues they've had to deal with, then none of them is even remotely ready to be president. The problems they can't deal with now are nothing compared to the ones they'd see if we are so unfortunate to have one of them win this November.

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PollM, Dallas TX — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:03 GMT

Democrats Debate in Las Vegas

Who Won the MSNBC Democratic Debate in Las Vegas?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1548

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Amy B Portland, ME — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:07:23 GMT

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Francis Crosby, Columbus Georgia. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:13:57 GMT

OMG!!

Clinton's Cou de Graw.

Ouch, that's an expensive vacuum cleaner...

Hillary Clinton is back to her New Hampshire Cou de Graw trade mark, she effectively neutralized Obama's much hyped "no vote" on the Iraq War. Very clever, shrewed, and effective... And she did it on national TV, not leaving Obama much room to maneuver or play up his "state senator" no vote... Obama did "vote no" as a state senator, but the pressures of the Washington senate, seemed to make him equivocate a bit on his original vote.

Hillary's equivocation is worse still, with regard to her Iraq War votes. She voted yes for pretty much everything to do with it, but now she is saying, that even though she voted for the war and funding, she didn't really mean it. Well, hum.. I'm still trying to figger it...

still one can't deny her brilliant move making her and Obama, appear as if there is no difference in their collective thinking on the Iraq War. Her Cou de Graw, was so slick, it caught Obama completely off guard... I think he agreed yes, before he realized what she had done... very dang sneaky and clever of that girl... I think Obama is feeling like he just bought an $800.00 dollar vacuum cleaner, for a house that only has "linoleum floors."

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MK,MO — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:15:10 GMT

with the republican induced recession brought on by their 'credit card' police action in iraq, printing worthless money as fast as the presses will run, and of course making sure the wealthy don't contribute in the way of taxes, we have a mess that will be difficult to correct, mitt romney wants to pay for the republican mistakes on the backs of the working poor (the repubs refer to this group as the middle class), john edwards thinks that the wealthy should also contribute some to make the repairs needed, who are you voting for?

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Pat, Boston, MA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:15:56 GMT

Pat Buchanan never misses an opportunity to mention Senator Obama's use of cocaine in his youth years and years ago. Never. Don't you get it Pat? Look at the newspapers. This country is in deep deep trouble. What is it with your lack of class in this regard? You are speaking on television in front of hundreds of thousands of people, not in a bar room. Politics or no politics, where is your sense of decency?

Chris Matthews saw the debate much differently than I did. Much differently. Senator Obama did a terrific job against the Clinton machine. It was crystal clear to me last night what Barack means by "change". I wish him success. He deserves it.

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Nashville_fan — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:16:04 GMT

After all of these debates, you would think the media would be used to Senator Obama's debating style. Why do I have to hear how "lack luster" he is after every debate? Contrary to popular belief, he is a smart and serious man who gives thoughtful answers. It is a Presidential Debate, what is he supposed to do, sing?

If Senator Obama gives a great speech, he is derided as "all talk". If he gives a thoughtful answer, he is "lackluster". It is the media who judges each debate on style instead of substance. America is looking for so much more.

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Moogey Watson, Fargo ND — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:16:16 GMT

>> All the debate did last night is tell Americans
>> that higher taxes and a full blown recession is
>> coming; thanks to the democrats...

It is always a good idea to raise taxes during a recession.

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Zac, Philadelphia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:17:43 GMT

Has anybody tracked down what Obama's original question for another candidate was going to be, before he accidentally frittered it away on his Iraq distinction with Edwards?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:21:46 GMT

This is a little bit off the beaten trail, but this goes to show you how the democrats are wasting tax dollars by soaking the American taxpayer for the new menu's in the congressional dining room. Nancy Pelosi decided to green the Capitol. Way to go, Nancy! Going to take a lot of green to keep those plates full.

OLD MENU

-- Salad bars with canned and conventional vegetables, iceberg lettuce and processed ranch dressing

-- Conventional beef hamburgers with processed cheese, often served cold

-- A special fried food bar

-- Soggy vegetables drowning in butter

-- Barbecue with corn and coleslaw

-- Custards, pies and cakes with fake whipped cream toppings

-- French fries (known under Republican rule as "freedom fries")

-- Plastic and Styrofoam containers

NEW MENU

-- Composed salad tossed to order with choice of seasonal vegetables and proteins with house-made vinaigrette over a warm grilled Focaccia bread

-- Roasted chicken with fire-roasted tomatoes and goat cheese

-- Cedar-plank wild salmon with apple cilantro relish

-- Seared barramundi (fish), white beans and tomatoes with thyme

-- Smoked salmon, roasted beets and arugula

-- Steamed broccoli, Brussels sprouts, sage roasted butternut squash, herb couscous

-- Samplings from Indian, Chinese, Greek, Moroccan and Mexican cuisines

-- Locally made Gifford's Ice Cream from a 70-year-old Washington institution

Bad enough they want to raise our taxes and hit the lower and middle class people where it hurts the most, but this kind of reminds me of the French government before the revolution took place.....

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Lynn, Round Rock, TX — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:23:21 GMT

The only way to find out how the candidates would really perform as President is to go to their websites and read their own words about the issues. Then, go to this website: http://www3.capwiz.com/c-span/dbq/officials/ and check out their voting records, and see if they agree with the platform. You can get mired in comments by journalists and bloggers, or you can be an informed voter. My vote is for Ron Paul, but don't take my word for it--find out for yourself.

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Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:23:43 GMT

Las Vegas Sun calls it for Clinton.

"Clinton Clear Winner", reads the Headline. They also Obama's short comings, which were on display lasat night:

"A defining moment of the debate was when moderator Tim Russert asked Obama about a comment he’d made to the Reno Gazette-Journal. The newspaper reported that Obama acknowledged he doesn’t have the experience to run a bureaucracy, but he said voters weren’t looking for a chief operating officer."

The full article:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/16/clinton-clear-winner/

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truthnmedia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:24:31 GMT

The Democrat party is in total disarray, no clear frontrunner, different winners in each primary. Or am i talking about the republician party. MSNBC get your self together.. your articles are misleading

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Susan T., Los Angeles, CA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:26:39 GMT

Anyone Repub who votes for Giuliani is a bonehead. The guy cares about NY, NJ, FL, CA. The other 46 states will be virtually ignored by his campaigning... and by his presidency.

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Barbara C., Pompano Beach, FL — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:26:42 GMT

I never thought I would say this, but I much rather have a Mitt Romney in there than a John McCain. I always knew I did not want Rudy either. Congratulations to Mitt Romney on getting your message across this time to the voters! Difference is....Romney brings hope, McCain brings despair, and I am sorry, McCain's time was 2000. Even most conservatives in his own party...do not like him. Just watch Sean Hannity on any given night.

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Pat Huntington NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:30:43 GMT

All the debate did last night is tell Americans that higher taxes and a full blown recession is coming; thanks to the democrats....

jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 9:49 AM)

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How is that so, since the republicans have been in control of the white house since Jan. 2001, were in control of Congress since 1994 up until last year, and all economists are sure the recession is being caused by the subprime mortgage collapse, credit crunch, and housing slump, all having nothing to do with democrats. And the higher taxes claim is a bold faced lie, since both Hillary and Obama have put together tax cut packages they are introducing in the Senate to give the economy a bit of a jump start to either thward the recession or mitigate it's effect. You are still spreading lies Jerry. Someone needs to stop you.

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Dirk, Brunswick, Georgia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:32:15 GMT

Obama's inexperience shines through. Folks are beginning to relaize that he's too unknown. At the 2004 Dem Convention, Kerry chose an unknown Illinois State Senator to give the keynote, during which Obama said that he was "a skinny guy with a funny name". He went on to win the Illinois Senate seat against Allen Keyes, who was chosen as the GOP stand-in because the original GOP nominee dropped out. Now, that unknown Dem. State Senator at the '04 convention wants to be Pres. of the U.S.---folks are beginning to say WHOA! WAIT a MINUTE! WHO IS THIS GUY?! He give great speeches and has a gift of gab, but what has he done?!

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S.K.M. Mass — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:34:24 GMT

Hillary can hit Obama all she wants on receiving money from Excelon, and Obama can just put out the quote of his response during the debate. He has always opposed Yucca. Hillary, however, supported the 2001 bankruptcy bll. In 2005 she did NOT vote on the bankruptcy bill. This is being mentioned by me because in the 2008 cycle, her top contributor has been Citigroup Incorporated which has raised $532,960 for her.

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William, Seattle WA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:34:43 GMT

I’m honestly confused as to how HRC “won” this debate. Obama was the most substantive and direct participant, all HRC did was evade the questions and launch into her typical bulletpoint spiel, all Edwards talked about was mills and the middle class … I tried watching MSNBC afterwards but just about the only thing Bizarro Matthews said to justify his HRC “win” was her attack on Bush.

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:37:03 GMT

Ron, TX: '...Second, why isn't there more coverage over the Hillary surrogates' attempts to Gerrymander the Nevada caucaus? I know that normally, all gerrymandering cries are at the mercy of how the Republicans are cheating Democrats,...'

Ron, I was hoping that Obama would ask Hillary to stop trying to dis-enfranchise union members in Nevada. It's the Republican play book being used by Hillary

I guess we had a feel good debate.
Let's see if the Clinton attack campaign continues..
We'll see here on this blog because most of the pro-Clinton sentiments posted are from Clinton staffers.

I have not idea if the general public is aware of the Clinton attacks.....
Many of the younger African Americans I work with are aware of what's going on.

We'll have to see how this plays out
Waiting for MORE POLLS from Nevada......

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Just asking — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:38:50 GMT

Jerry just how would the democrats be responsible for a recession which has already started, borne of a republican congress and a republican whitehouse? Bush's tax cuts, even if repealed, won't expire until 2010. So this is the democrats fault because.......?

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A.Brocco, Albuquerque,NM — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:39:52 GMT

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BJ in Michigan — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:40:07 GMT

To Jerry in Texas. . .precisely WHY the GOP is doomed to fail in November. . the Same, tired Rhetoric of Taxes, and calling Dems names, WILL NOT WORK !!!!!
The previous 7 years, dominated by GWB and the GOP in Congress, is why the US economy is in Trouble !!!
READ A BOOK or something !!!!!!!!! GET THE FACTS.

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Nashville_fan — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:40:12 GMT

I love how the Clinton supportera point to the "4 page memo", but seem to conveniently forget all the things they have said to fill up the four pages! Most candidates would have probably issued the memo at 1 and 1/2 pages - how much crap does the Obama campaign have to take before they are allowed to defend themselves?

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:42:28 GMT

Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY:'....There is no need for that in this election. I really think it's time for the media to stop pushing the race thing, so we could actually get on with talking about the issues like they did in the second half of the debate....'

Sorry !!
NO SALE !
The Clinton camp has been in ATTACK MODE since Iowa!
They've ATTACKED OBAMA by any means necessary...

The first viable African American candidate....
And the Clintons are SMEARING HIM !!
It's the Clinton 'Politics of Personal Destruction'
It's the Clinton's 'Blood Sport'
Bill, in large part created the environments in which he was impeached
(served him right!)

Hillary Clinton, cold, calculating, dishonest, unethical, divisive

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Dave, Evergreen CO — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:43:08 GMT

I disagree that Edwards had the best presentation last night. There were two new cases where he admitted to making the wrong vote while he was in the Senate, Yucca Mountain and the 2001 Bky bill. Add those to his already admitted 2002 wrong vote on Iraq and he starts to look like a political opportunist.

That said I thought this was one of the better debates of the season. I would have liked more detail on each of their economic plans but realize there is only so much time.

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Wendy, Mechanicsburg, PA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:44:04 GMT

The only way the democrats will win in Nov. is if they can get crossover votes from republicans. The only candidate who can deliver those votes is John Edwards. Republicans will not cross over and vote for Clinton or Obama just like they didn't crossover and vote for John Kerry.

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Looking for the Truth — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:44:09 GMT

Obama - A man of change NOT, just another Senator in Washington with a pack of liberals behind him; Hillary - Old news that will continue the political infighting; Edwards - Wants everyone to pay union dues NO THANKS

Face it there isn't any change here from these candidates except how much money is going to come out of your pockets when they start taxing the power plants and gas to fight the big crisis (climate change). Any how much more is it going to cost when they add 15 million more illegals to the social money wagon in exchange for votes from another minority group. Sorry but there is no change here for those who aren't willing to hear the facts. This independent is looking elsewhere for someone who isn't telling a story to children who are easily manipulated.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:46:48 GMT

Ron - agree on the politics of fear thing. On gerrymandering, that's not a correct way to characterize what's happening.

The Nevada Democratic Party made a decision, presumably responding to a request from the Culinary Workers, to create caucus sites in workplaces - primarily casinos. It is an unusual move, but then Nevada isn't your usual state. It lives on tourism at Vegas and smaller towns, and a lot of the associated union members work on Saturdays. Because it was unusual, the people pushing for this allowance a year ago began the processes they needed to get state and national party concurrence, which they did.

The issue is why a union of educators waited until two days after the union of culinary workers endorsed Obama to file a legal protest. This process was public from the start.

A spokesperson from the culinary workers union said three of the individuals filing the lawsuit blocking these additional caucus sites - all involved with Clinton's campaign, he said - were involved with the process to create the additional caucus sites. I don't know if that's true, but I haven't heard any denial of this.

Another question is whether Clinton's campaign is involved. Most people seem to assume it is, by the association of those filing the lawsuit. Additionally, Bill Clinton continued his loose cannon appearance by speaking out in favor of the lawsuit.

So not technically gerrymandering, but appears to be an attempt to lodge a late protest against a special allowance for purpose of keeping prospective Obama supporters from caucusing.

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Carol, Florida native — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:47:00 GMT

They all took the high road and talked about substance instead of garbage. Hillary still knows most of the answers. She still can run circles around all the other candidates. Some people may not like her for whatever reason, but the woman would definitely make a great president. I have recently decided to vote for her. My decision came after her performance last night.

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Bradford, Forest Park, Illinois — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:51:23 GMT

After watching the debate last night, Senator Clinton has my vote. She's intelligent, openminded, tough and is finally showing she has compassion and a passion to lead this country.

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:54:35 GMT

There was mention last night (on CNN or MSNBC) that the Harry Reid machine was supporting Clinton
The first open mention of this
I know Reid's son is working for Hillary

This adds further background to the Lieberman-Kyl vote scheduling

It was a 'dirty trick' by 'lick spittle' Reid

Pat, Boston, MA:'...Pat Buchanan never misses an opportunity to mention Senator Obama's use of cocaine in his youth years and years ago....'

Pat, he's no different than the Clinton surrogates
They never miss a chance, either
I don't think Buchanon has accused Obama of being a dealer, like Clinton's campiagn co-chair Bill Shaheen

The good new is that the Republicans are in a muddle
With Romney winning, there's no front runner
There was even talk of a brokered convention

If we can nominate a 'winning' candidate (Obama or Edwards) the election is ours for the taking.
We'll probably pick up Senate and House seats
We just need a winning ticket: Obama/Edwards

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JJ in NJ — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:56:14 GMT

Romney sold the voters of Michigan a bunch of snake oil: "I will bring your auto industry jobs back!" How you gonna do it, Mitt? How are you going to bring those jobs back when it's mismanagement by executives and cost-cutting that eliminated those jobs? Are you talking about demanding accountability from corporate executives -- the kind of guys that, like Angelo Mozilio of Countrywide Mortgage, get a $110 million reward for running a company into the ground? Gee, that's not very Republican, now, is it.

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America, Stand Up! — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:56:37 GMT

Looks like the "politics of fear" is only work on the media...especially the Hardball guy; what a joke!

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modernwoman, Anytown,USA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:59:07 GMT

Thanks, MSNBC, for not singing the praises of Barack Obama. The last time you did it, he came in second in NH. I like the fact that you pointed out all the good things about Hillary Clinton & John Edwards, maybe they will get the jinx now........

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:01:27 GMT

HERE IT IS
The Endorsement from the LAs Vegas Review-Journal:

'...Jan. 16, 2008
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

EDITORIAL: Obama best choice for Democrats

Or do they prefer a re-run of 'It came from Little Rock'? As state Democrats prepare to hold their Saturday caucuses, cynical Republicans might well encourage them to choose Sen. Hillary Clinton, figuring her high "negatives" -- the unusual number of Americans who tell pollsters they'd never vote for her under any circumstances -- would virtually guarantee a GOP victory in the fall.

That's why it's a good thing for Democrats that freshman Illinois Sen. Barack Obama has managed to challenge the perception of Sen. Clinton's "inevitability."

The Clinton campaign cites Sen. Clinton's "experience." In fact, she's a one-term-plus-a-year senator whose lackluster legislative record rivals Sen. Obama's. Other than that, the "experience" in question must surely refer to her presence as a witness and enabler during her husband's presidential terms.

Suffice it to say there are dozens of issues that Americans happily dismissed as "water under the bridge" as the Clinton era came to a close, but which would quickly ensnare Sen. Clinton and her party in a presidential race that would soon look like a struggle to escape the La Brea tar pits.

Most Popular Stories

JOHN BRUMMETT: The lessons of Huckabee
VIN SUPRYNOWICZ: How many more will die in 'gun-free' zones before the media start asking why?
J.C. WATTS: Front-runners shaking things up
YEAR IN REVIEW: 'Them #%@* pictures!'
LETTERS: Teachers need to sit back and bear the pain
VIN SUPRYNOWICZ: Good intentions, abominable results
EDITORIAL: Cooking the books on Iraqi deaths
LETTERS: Don't blame Hillary for Wal-Mart
EDITORIAL: 'Gross stupidity'
LETTERS: Hey, that's not my bag, baby!

For starters, imagine Sen. Clinton and "co-president" Bill Clinton invited onto a "This is Your Life" talk show where they're joined by Juanita Broaddrick, Kathleen Willey, Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky.

And that's before we even get around to a HillaryCare plan that could have sent you to jail for offering to pay your doctor in cash to "get to the head of the line."

Meanwhile, John Edwards' anti-capitalist populism is not in this country's long-term best interests.

Is Barack Obama, then, the ideal Democratic candidate for president? Hardly. His policy recommendations -- when he can be convinced to get any more specific than "I represent change" -- are the opposite of "change." They're old-line, welfare-state solutions that haven't spent enough time in the microwave to appear even superficially appetizing.

Sen. Obama is a relatively young man with relatively little of the kind of real-world experience that prepares a candidate to stand firm against urgent advice to, say, bomb some remote population of defenseless civilians to "send a message," or plunge the economy into a dark night of unforeseen consequences by crippling the free market in the name of "fighting greed."

But Barack Obama is, at least, likeable. He is a good enough orator that there is no need to cringe when he dares to speak off the cuff. He is a good politician, in the non-insulting sense that he knows how to speak to individual Americans and give them the feeling he cares about their concerns.

As Nevada Democrats head to their caucuses Saturday, they might ask themselves whether they really want to spend two months later this year watching a re-run of the horror movie "It Came From Little Rock," with the sound turned up much too loud -- or if they'd rather make it a real contest this fall.

If they prefer the latter, they're better off backing Barack Obama on Saturday.....'

WORDS OF WISDOM !!
'...As state Democrats prepare to hold their Saturday caucuses, cynical Republicans might well encourage them to choose Sen. Hillary Clinton, figuring her high "negatives" -- the unusual number of Americans who tell pollsters they'd never vote for her under any circumstances -- would virtually guarantee a GOP victory in the fall....'

WORDS OF WISDOM

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:04:00 GMT

Obama's victory in the debate last night will be significant. All three did very well, but he really hit it out of the park; who wouldn't want to nominate the most Presidential seeming caniddate with the most consistent record, let alone the most honest, intelligent, and humility-filled candidate on the stage?

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Pat Huntington NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:06:49 GMT

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:08:00 GMT

Dickie Flatts - do you really want a president to run the bureaucracy? Do you have any idea what you're saying?

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Kathy Richardson — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:10:34 GMT

Before the debate, I had been impressed with MSNBC's coverage of the elections. Unlike CNN's Wulf in their debates, who was obviously pro Clinton, giving her breaks & the staged question at the end re: "diamonds & pearls"; I thought MSCBC was objective. Not so. Last night's debates allowed Clinton to walk away without really answering the tough questions or taking responsibility for her part in the disturbing last few days. After all, it was her statement comparing Obama to Dr. King (dreams & hopes) & her to LBJ (it takes a President who can get the job done to complete the dreams of others) That upset people, & rightfully so. Then she attacks the Obama campaign as they prepared to defend themselves with a staffers notes on other statements by Clinton that were questionable re: civil rights. Does anyone remember Hillary was a campaign worker for Goldwater, a Senator who did not support the Civil Rights Act? During Bill's Presidency a law he supported has put thousands of young Black men in jail for first time drug offenses, when what they need is drug rehab. The Obama campaign was just preparing for their defense to Hillary's constant attacks. And she accepts Johnson's explanation that he was talking about Obama's community service and not his drug use as a youth? The MSNBC anchors did not allow Obama to ask his question, nor did they allow Edwards to ask his question to Hillary on lobbyist money from pharmachuetical companies. (They changed the rules right there...limited to one question instead of two) I guess Mr. Clinton got to MSNBC ...now, they too are in the Clinton camp ...let the political machinary & corporate America rule! One week ago Chris Matthews was excited about Obama & his message of a "new kind of politics". After the debate he declares Clinton the winner?! What a set up. Guess I'll watch Fox news.

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Betty, S.C. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:11:03 GMT

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Allison, Columbus, Ohio — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:11:20 GMT

Sen. Hillary Clinton triumphs again! Sen. Clinton is the smartest, most qualified, most experienced and politically skilled candidate in the race for President from any party. The Dems are so fortunate to have her running this year. The U.S. and the world will be so much better when she's President. Sen. Clinton will make a great President. The bonus for all of us is Bill by her side. What an incredible team.

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Dickie Flatts, Charlotte, NC — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:13:08 GMT

Another memo blows up in Obama's face:

http://www.sptimes.com/2008/01/16/State/Obama_stirs_fight_wit.shtml

Obama isn't very smart sometimes.

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cb, MI — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:14:47 GMT

It's "coup de grace", meaning mercy killing

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juan,ft lauderdale,fl — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:15:44 GMT

Could it be that Karl Rove is blogging under Jerry? Considering it sounds like his talking points vis-a-vis The Shrub. Thanks Jerry! I can always rely on your idiotic and Pavlovian Fox news resurgitation (I do not even have to tune into that 1 trick pony show) for a good laugh;however; the stakes are too high and the country is going into the tiolet because of moronic individuals like yourself. Have a nice day!

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Tortillas DeLote — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:21:44 GMT

The AZ Primary ballots have begun to arrived in the mail! What's with all the names running for President? Confusion certain to rule at the Arizona voting booth.

If you think the national leading candidates were hitting rock bottom, Arizona has just set the bar lower, much lower. Unbeknown to cable news pundits spinning themselves silly around polls, Arizona's Primary is destined to make history. A grouping of dark-horse candidacies has doubled the choices for our nation's highest elected office. Historic with four women on the ballot. Project White House 08, a microcosm of the national race, offers as much passion and absurdity as any of the front-running campaigns.

Tired of back-biting politics? Mud-sligning and name-calling?

Flip those national campaigns the proverbial finger and join the brave candidates of the Arizona Primary in their bold experiment in politics.

http://projectwhitehouse.wordpress.com

"Thank you for your support, citizen."

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Chaunda,Indianapolis — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:22:07 GMT

Sierra,SF

As a Black (screw this african-american crap too long) American single early thirties mother I am concerned by Obama supporters who seem to spew hate and anger. Do a self-assessment. Let the race card go. For people like myself it looked very much like the race card was brought out when by the media to divide us black folks by making us feel like if we do not vote Barack we are somehow betraying our community. Real talk, you have been the author so many personal attacks against Hillary it seems misogynistic. "Cold, calculating" isn't that how a lot of men describe a smart savvy woman everyday. If you are truly passionate about your candidate speak to his strengths not hatemongering.

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Daniel, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:23:02 GMT

There've been two polls out this morning, one from Nevada and one from South Carolina. Nevada goes for Romney and remains a toss-up in the Democratic side, South Carolina is big for McCain. Check poll roundup: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/01/morning-polls-were-already-on-to.html

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Curt, New Jersey — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:24:54 GMT

From Ron in Texas

“Bill Clinton was tested in 1993, and unlike the recent "British testing", the very first attack on the WTC was successful. The truck bomb exploded, killing six people and injuring thousands.”

Ron

I guys behind that attack are in jail. Where is Osama bin Laden?

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Don't look and you will have no fear — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:25:45 GMT

Looks like the "politics of fear" is only work on the media...especially the Hardball guy; what a joke!
America, Stand Up! (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:56 AM)

Politics of fear is just a code word for those who want to bury their heads in the sand. It's because of people like you who don't want to believe that there is a movement of fanatics to reclaim the world for Islam which encourages them through your weakness. They will stop at nothing to kill more infidels and they could care less about your "Be nice and they will go away" attitude. Your failure to recognize the threat only encourages them more. It’s amazing how you pacifists manage to deny the obvious. Yes, don’t look and you will see no harm until it smacks you on the side of the head.

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One more time — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:31:19 GMT

Looks like the "politics of fear" is only work on the media...especially the Hardball guy; what a joke!
America, Stand Up! (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:56 AM)

I’ve corrected this after re-reading your post

Politics of fear is just a code word for those who want to bury their heads in the sand. It's because of people who don't want to believe that there is a movement of fanatics to reclaim the world for Islam which encourages them through your weakness. They will stop at nothing to kill more infidels and they could care less about your "Be nice and they will go away" attitude. The failure to recognize the threat only encourages them more. It’s amazing how pacifists manage to deny the obvious. Yes, don’t look and you will see no harm until it smacks you on the side of the head.

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j fl — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:36:21 GMT

Hillary yet again shows she is presidential material. Mr Obama will have to wait his turn..after he gains lots more knowledge, about everything. The republicans would eat him alive.

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Yiannis, Baltimore — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:38:09 GMT

Hillary: "I voted for the bankruptcy bill but was happy it didn't pass"

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Eric, NY, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:40:12 GMT

A hit job editoral appears in today's Las Vegas Review Journal in which the paper takes out the knives on Hillary. I noticed no mention of Obama being supported in a huge way by a firm that is pro-Yucca mountain, that Obama and Edwards have not been firmly opposed to Yucca Mountain, and that Hillary has worked hard in opposition to it. I am also appalled that there was no discussion of issues in this editoral which is much more important to Nevada voters and the copuntry than what was written there.

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Susan, San Diego, CA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:41:18 GMT

Obama showed last night that he has what it takes to be a great president. He demonstrated that he has the vision to lead this country into a very productive period. He really makes me feel that the gridlock in government could actually be broken in an Obama Administration. He will not be a partisan who will never consider other points of view. He will welcome divergent viewpoints. That is the mark of a true leader. In college I remember reading a book about presidents who only wanted to surround themselves with "yes men". I think the book was called "Groupthink." The book said how the truly effective presidents have been those with the self-confidence to realize that it is OK to hear opposing viewpoints and sides in order to come up with a workable solution to problems. No one side has all of the answers. We need to have a president who can bring out the best in ALL of us! I really think Obama is that person.

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RGO, California — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:41:47 GMT

Poor Jerry..he continues to spew garbage from his mouth out of desparation. He knows very well that the Democrats will win the white house in Nov .. in Fact thats what Pat Robertson said last night on MSNBC ... This nation is a complete mess thanks to an ignorant Texas Republican .... I guess all of you think the same Jerry ...

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Bill Hicks, Philadelphia, PA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:44:55 GMT

Here we go again with the Democrats playing the race card. The Democrats have been doing this for years and trying to hide their complicity by blaming the Republicans for their own dirty tricks. Do you really think it's the Republicans that post those pamphlets every four years saying the election has been delayed to a different date? You might get one or two people fall for that but that's it so on it’s face it’s a waste of money to do something like that, but it looks great when you can waive the race card in front of the media blaming those bad racist Republicans. Wake up! This has been a trick used by Democrats to bring up the race card. This has been a Democratic dirty trick for decades so it certainly isn't surprising to see how quick they used race against their own party members. Stop the racial back and forth - no way the Dems have gotten so good at it they can't help themselves.

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Richie McFaux, All-American Gent — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:45:00 GMT

Hillary Clinton is soooo awesome! I was going to vote for Mitt Romney, but after last night's debate, she sure won my vote! Wow! I mean, WOW!

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Mark Thieme — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:46:32 GMT

Allison,

Please take a deep breath and think about a babbling brook.

The Clintons may well be the best thing since sliced bread, but watch your oxygen exchange rate.

You could get dizzy.
You could lose consciousness.
You could lose credibility.

Breathe into a paper bag for a few minutes and take a low-dose Xanax.

Hillary does.

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docrock,tx — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:49:22 GMT

Maybe the two year election process is finally taking it's toll.The only way to effectively process a War to it's desired conclusion,is by raising taxes to pay as you go.When politicians hedge on their responsibilities and pass the cost on to unborn tax payers,this is malicious pandering to the greedy people that believe they can buy their way into heaven.That particular stairway goes in the opposite direction.Remember,charity begins at home.Just be sure to tell the 46 million Americans with no Health Insurance to not try to change their fate.If you ain't got,then you must not need!

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Brian, Houston, TX — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:51:08 GMT

After IA - Huckabee vs. Obama.
After NH - McCain vs. Hillary.
After MI - Romney vs. undecided.

Will the media give it a rest and let the voters play this thing out or not? I think we know the answer to that question already.

The poor hapless morons in the press would like to drive the debate but the electorate has proven fickle. That is the best part about this year for me, the people are speaking up and they are not in lock step around the country.

And jerry from cc, stop embarrassing yourself.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:51:59 GMT

Hillary Clinton is a con job from start to finish. She has capitulated to the politics of expediency and has compromised every valid belief that she ever held near and dear. Pragmatic? Maybe. But is this old, battle-hardened, cynical politician (a student of her husband and his triangulating forces) who we want in the White House? Well, not this Democrat.

I want someone who embraces the principles of the Democratic party. I want somebody who is an advocate for the middle class and who will push aside the special, moneyed interests when formulating policy - without turning this into class warfare. I want someone who can inspire young people, people of color, people of less means to be involved in the political process, to do more for this country and think less about themselves. I want someone who can unite this polarized nation by invoking themes that are consistant with the betterment of mankind and not by scaring us with threats of enemies, both real and imagined.

Obama is that person. Hillary is damaged goods. Whose best prepared to handle the job from day one? A beaurocrat who is the micro manager or the CEO who draws from the vast amount of talent around him and who possesses great intellectual curiosity? I want a president who harbors no fear about listening to dissenting opinion (unlike the present ignoramous in the Oval Office) and who can forge a government that will best serve us as an agent of change and creativity. This choice is so clear to me.
Obama '08

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Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:52:08 GMT

I would love to see Hillary as President, Obama as Vice President, Biden as Secretary of State, Richardson as the UN ambassador, and Edwards or Kucinich to head a new cabnet position dealing with poverty in America with Bill Clinton as a roving ambassador to any hot spots that are in need of the US having need for better relations with hostile countries. I think all of these roles could be switched around(with the exception of Bill being President or Vice President). There is just so much talent on the Democratic side of the aisle compared to the Republican bafoons who are way out of touch with reality and the concerns of the American people.

Compare that what we have now. Talk about change!

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Brian, Houston, TX — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:53:38 GMT

Betty SC,

The fact that you read newsmax automatically disqualifies you from logical thinking. Please post your diatribes somewhere else.

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Natasha B, New Haven, CT — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:54:03 GMT

The big winner in last night's debate was the DEMOCRATIC PARTY! If all three candidates can steer clear of race/gender politics and avoid distorting each other's records, then whoever wins the nomination won't alienate others Dems. With the Democratic party united and with some crossover appeal to Independents and Republicans, the nominee will easily win the general election.

Kudos to Clinton and Obama for damping down the race and gender issues. Kudos to Edwards for continuing to fight passionately without disparaging his Democratic opponents. Kudos to the DEMOCRATIC PARTY...it's back on track for a big win in 2008.

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One nation — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:54:12 GMT

Pat Buchanan and Chris Matthews are a joke. I expected Pat to push his Hillary agenda to try and help his party, but Chris, I lost a lot of respect for him trying to force feed us a result that was clearly a farce. I guess these talk show hosts really think Americans are stupid. At least one of the analysts kind of stood up for the integrity of their profession. Obama clearly won the debate last night. And Hillary’s ability to polarize and divide is as crystal clear as ever. She has not only divided the Republicans from the Democrats, the Democrats from the Democrats, but now she is trying to divide black people from white people. How can she make us one as a country, when she can’t even unite a party…the answer is, she can’t.

And I am really getting tried of this whole experience issue, if she has so much experience, then she should release her record. She has already shown that her and Bill have extremely bad judgment…yes, Bill, if you think he didn’t tell her how to vote then you are kidding yourself. Gore, and the people Bill had around him was the brains behind the Clinton presidency. Oh and if you didn’t know, all of Bill’s people now work for Obama. Why would this be? Why wouldn’t they have stayed with Bill and work with his wife? The answer…they aren’t stupid people.

Truth is, the real roll of the dice would be to try and put Hillary in office, one she has a lot of secrets, that’s why she won’t release her record, two she put her name on the ballet in Michigan, and the uncommitted got 40 percent of the vote. Wow! 40 percent! Three, she is trying to claim someone else’s experience as her own. And for those of you who have not yet figured out who started all of our jobs going oversea, new flash…it was Bill! Sure for the short term, he did some good things for the economy, but long term that decision is destroying our economy, with the help of Bush. But the cold hard facts is that it was in bad judgment that the agreements were made, and the Clinton’s have a consistent history of making bad decisions for our country; they are just banking on the fact that most American’s are to dumb to figure this out. I hope they are wrong.

The other issue they try to make is that we don’t know Obama…but he is an open book, literally. What else is there to know? If there was something to find they would have buried him with it a long time ago, there is nothing there, that’s why we keep getting bombarded with this he say she say crap.

Is this what we want people? A duo that continues to make bad decision…they don’t pay for it, we do.

And another thing, Edwards is ok, but how can he claim to fight for us American without bring people to the table…does he plan to take them around the back of the white house and beat them into submission? Give me a break already.

People it’s time we did the right thing for our country. Obama 08

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Barbara, Oregon — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 16:55:08 GMT

I haven't seen any analysis of the fact that Michigan's Democrats came out in large numbers to vote against Hillary. Considering she was the only frontrunner on the ballot, earning only 55% of the vote seems to me to be striking. With all the talk of electability, where does this leave Hillary?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:04:18 GMT

er, jerry...the Republicans have been in power for the last seven years. They started a war costing us billions, dragged their feet on addressing the energy crisis, the cost of health care in this country, and the mortgage crisis and the recession is WHOSE fault?

Amy B Portland, ME (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:07 AM)

Uhhhhhh Amy????

Guess you didn't watch the news this morning.....

By Hope Yen
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Tuesday, January 15, 2008

WASHINGTON — A special commission is urging the government to raise federal gasoline taxes by as much as 40 cents per gallon over five years as part of a sweeping overhaul designed to ease traffic congestion and repair the nation's decaying bridges and roads.

Kind of stupid to be talking about raising taxes on anything right now with this so called recession coming and all the money that was spent on earmarks by the democratic controlled congress.....

Maybe if they gave all the earmarks back, maybe they would have the money for bridge work....

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Kym — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:04:19 GMT

This is serious business and Senator Clinton would not associate with Farrakhan http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wright_farrakhan/2008/01/14/64332.html
Betty, S.C. (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:11 AM)

Betty your facts are distorted to say the least. Clinton was really much in talks with Farrakan during the Million Man March, so I am not sure what you are talking about.

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D Meade — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:08:38 GMT

Edwards is the true winner because he is the only one that is not for sale.

Bill Clinton gave us NAFTA and put up the for sale sign. We are now bleeding jobs. Hillary takes every dime she can get from the special interest. And Obama is not ready.

John Edwards is not for sale. It's time to take the for sale sign down before we are all working for 7.25 an hour.

Edwards/Obama in 08

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Move on — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:10:20 GMT

Sorry Sierra, but your pushing the 'attack' theme won't work anymore. The candidates, including - if not especially - Obama himself - made it quite clear last night they want the discussion to end and to move on the real issues, which is, after all, the basis on which we should be deciding.
You must secretly (or not so secretly) be a republican shill to push this dead dog so hard, because the more intelligent among the concerned parties realize continuing the debate of who hit whom first only ends up bloodying all involved, disenfranchises 3/4 the democratic party and tosses the election to the republicans.
Why do you think Obama is just as - if not more - anxious than Hillary to end the discussion? Focus on 'race wars' only brings attention to the 'black candidate', instead of the 'better candidate'
All three of them acted like grown ups last night for a change.
It's time for the press and the bloggers to join them

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raider dem, maryland — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:12:46 GMT

Is Barack Obama, then, the ideal Democratic candidate for president? Hardly. His policy recommendations -- when he can be convinced to get any more specific than "I represent change" -- are the opposite of "change." They're old-line, welfare-state solutions that haven't spent enough time in the microwave to appear even superficially appetizing.

Sen. Obama is a relatively young man with relatively little of the kind of real-world experience that prepares a candidate to stand firm against urgent advice to, say, bomb some remote population of defenseless civilians to "send a message," or plunge the economy into a dark night of unforeseen consequences by crippling the free market in the name of "fighting greed."

But Barack Obama is, at least, likeable. He is a good enough orator that there is no need to cringe when he dares to speak off the cuff. He is a good politician, in the non-insulting sense that he knows how to speak to individual Americans and give them the feeling he cares about their concerns.

The Endorsement from the LAs Vegas Review-Journal:

'...Jan. 16, 2008
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

That's part of an endorsement of Obama? Really? Ouch.

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Jennifer, Boston — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:15:54 GMT

Just wanted to comment on how pro-Clinton MSNBC seems to be getting. I think it is because of Dan Abrams. His overt support of Hillary, which he regularly states on his 9PM show, is the reason for this troubling shift away from neutrality, in my opinion.

Pat Buchanan is so transparent it is funny. He has said in past months on numerous occasions that the GOP is salivating at the idea of running against Hillary. So when he now sees that Obama is probably going to be the Democratic nominee, he is petrified for the GOP and sings Hillary's praises at every opportunity. Really funny.

As to Chris Matthews over-the-top shift to Hillary last night, it is pretty clear that the publicity from 'The View' critcizing him last week for saying negative things about Hillary really got to him. Disappointed in Chris for caving in to the pressure. And I think he is feeling pressure from Dan Abrams. (more below)

Andrea Mitchell is another who has suddenly shifted over from being fair to being extremely pro- Clinton.

Chuck Todd is very pro-Hillary. Never misses an opportunity to criticize Obama and praise Clinton.

Why the slant toward Hillary?? Dan Abrams who runs MSNBC, is strongly for Hillary. He makes no secret of it. So maybe Pat, Chris, Andrea, Chuck Todd, etc. feel that they have to placate Abrams.

CNN has the nickname the 'Clinton News Network'. It will be a shame if MSNBC follows suit. I always used to think MSNBC had a wide span of ideas and played fair in their coverage. But seeing how biased Dan Abrams is toward Hillary really makes me wonder.

Keith Olbermann, Tucker Carlson, and Joe Scarborough seem to be the only ones Abrams has not been able to manipulate. They still appear objective in their coverage. Good for Keith and Tucker and Joe! Shame on Dan Abrams.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:19:07 GMT

You are still spreading lies Jerry. Someone needs to stop you.

Pat Huntington NY (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:30 AM)

Well Pat: Let's take a look at some of these "lies" I seem to be spreading....

For one thing Pat, the democrats have taken control of congress in 2006, so you lied about the GOP being in control of congress right now.....

Hillary and Obama have put togather noew tax cut packages.....
That is a lie in itself....
When Hillary was pressed how she was going to pay for her tax cuts, she said she couldn't....
Obama would raise taxes to pay for his tax package....

So everybody would get $100-$250 bucks.....
After the Federal, State, Local governments get their piece of that pie, what's next? Where is the next meal coming from? Hillary's tax package is just about as bad as her $5000 baby bonds fiasco.....

Housing slump.....
This is what happens when you give money to buy a $200,000 home to a bunch of people who work at Dairy Queen. There is no way to pay it back and people who took out subprime loans really deserve everything they got and more. A course in reading contracts and maybe a course in plain english should solve that.

credit card crunch.....
People picked getting that Plasma Television and the Nintendo Wii over paying for their health insurance and food and a roof over their heads. Nobody took a gun to thse folks and told them "either your blood or your signature will be on that credit card slip". I am sick and tired of bailing out people who are really too stupid or just plain lazy to take care of their own lives. They deserve everything they get and more.

This did not have anything to do with politics...
This had to do with stupid people......

Someone should stop me?????
Like Vince Foster??????

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Lawrence Tynes, Brady Park, WA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:19:49 GMT

To the people still posting about the race/gender debate of the last several days, you need to stop it, because your own candidates said they want their supports to stop, and it will only serve republican interests in the general election.

Pat Huntington NY

The racism and sexism in the Democratic party is alive and (tragically) well. It needs to be dealt with, so it's a matter of getting it out in the open now, or leave it for the Republicans do it in the fall. So which is it going to be?

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Chad, LV, NV — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:22:56 GMT

Romney won and has been at the top of every primary, because he is the only well-rounded conservative with a chance on winning the presidency. He is competitive everywhere because:
He has more executive experience than any candidate.
He is a strong social conservative.
He has vision for change
He can turn around other mistakes made prior to his taking the Job. (Bain Capital, Olympics, MA. Huge deficit, Big Dig Fiasco, and he'll do the same in Iraq)

Huckabee is a nice guy... so is Jimmy Carter

I'm not going to take anything away from Rudy, he just shouldn't be President over Romney

Mccain is a great american but he continually pals around with Kennedy, Lieberman, Feingold etc..

Be Smart. Look at the Facts.

VOTE ROMNEY

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OneNation — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:28 GMT

Pat Buchanan and Chris Matthews are a joke. I expected Pat to push his Hillary agenda to try and help his party, but Chris, I lost a lot of respect for him trying to force feed us a result that was clearly a farce. I guess these talk show hosts really think Americans are stupid. At least one of the analysts kind of stood up for the integrity of their profession. Obama clearly won the debate last night. And Hillary’s ability to polarize and divide is as crystal clear as ever. She has not only divided the Republicans from the Democrats, the Democrats from the Democrats, but now she is trying to divide black people from white people. How can she make us one as a country, when she can’t even unite a party…the answer is, she can’t.

And I am really getting tried of this whole experience issue, if she has so much experience, then she should release her record. She has already shown that her and Bill have extremely bad judgment…yes, Bill, if you think he didn’t tell her how to vote then you are kidding yourself. Gore, and the people Bill had around him was the brains behind the Clinton presidency. Oh and if you didn’t know, all of Bill’s people now work for Obama. Why would this be? Why wouldn’t they have stayed with Bill and work with his wife? The answer…they aren’t stupid people.

Truth is, the real roll of the dice would be to try and put Hillary in office, one she has a lot of secrets, that’s why she won’t release her record, two she put her name on the ballet in Michigan, and the uncommitted got 40 percent of the vote. Wow! 40 percent! Three, she is trying to claim someone else’s experience as her own. And for those of you who have not yet figured out who started all of our jobs going oversea, new flash…it was Bill! Sure for the short term, he did some good things for the economy, but long term that decision is destroying our economy, with the help of Bush. But the cold hard facts is that it was in bad judgment that the agreements were made, and the Clinton’s have a consistent history of making bad decisions for our country; they are just banking on the fact that most American’s are to dumb to figure this out. I hope they are wrong.

The other issue they try to make is that we don’t know Obama…but he is an open book, literally. What else is there to know? If there was something to find they would have buried him with it a long time ago, there is nothing there, that’s why we keep getting bombarded with this he say she say crap.

Is this what we want people? A duo that continues to make bad decision…they don’t pay for it, we do.

And another thing, Edwards is ok, but how can he claim to fight for us Americans without bring people to the table…does he plan to take them around the back of the white house and beat them into submission? Give me a break already.

People, it’s time we did the right thing for our country. Obama 08

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j fl — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:34 GMT

Sierra, My family and myself will happily be watching "It came from Little Rock". Can't wait. Oh, you must not have seen that movie before because it was a wonderful,hopful and promising and definitely has a happy ending. Didn't you know?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:24:45 GMT

So this is the democrats fault because.......?

Just asking (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:38 AM)

Well, let's see.....

There wasn't a subprime problem until the democrats took over congress in 2006...

There wasn't a housing crisis until the the democrats took over congress in 2006....

There wasn't a credit card crisis until the democrats took over congress in 2006....

There wasn't a jobs crisis until the democrats took over congress in 2006......

There wasn't talk of raising taxes on everything until the democrats took over congress in 2006.....

There wasn't Maui Maui on the menu in the congressional dining room until the democrats took over in 2006.....

There wasn't talk of raising gasoline taxes until the democrats took over in 2006...

I could go on all day.....

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:27:02 GMT

Jerry/Corpus Cristi...
What about the billions of dollars that your conservative friend Dubya is borrowing to fight his war? When one "borrows" something it is understood that it will be payed back. Billions from China, Japan, Saudi,etc. No comment about this, Jerry? I thought so.

A.Brocco, Albuquerque,NM (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:39 AM)

Big difference between fighting a war against folks that want to kill us and changing the House menu from Rachel Ray to Wolfgang Puck...

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David, Arkansas City, Kansas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:32:25 GMT

Chris Matthews has gone completely wacko. His fawing over Hillary's debate performance was obvious attempt to make good after people finally called him on his angry criticism of her. He's lost all credibility and needs to go to punditry rehab.

Chuck Todd has the most salient point — that in cordial debate and campaign where it's about the candidates themselves, Obama rises above with his calm, dignified deamenor and call for united to bring change and solve problems. Read this interesting analysis on exactly that point http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_stump/archive/2008/01/16/nevada-debate-thoughts.aspx

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MGP, NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:32:36 GMT

Betty, S.C. (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:11 AM)

Obama already denounced Farrakhan and the opinion piece that said that Obama was a Farrakhan shill.

Seriously, educate yourself and stop jumping at every piece of falsehood that comes out about Obama.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/15/richard-cohen-suggests-ob_n_81620.html

Thank you, come again.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:33:32 GMT

There was mention last night (on CNN or MSNBC) that the Harry Reid machine was supporting Clinton
The first open mention of this
I know Reid's son is working for Hillary
Sierra, SF (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 10:54 AM)

here is the story:

ASSOCIATED PRESS

6:23 p.m. February 18, 2007

WASHINGTON – Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has not endorsed a Democratic presidential candidate, but his son has.

Rory Reid is signing on as Nevada chairman for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential bid. He will be senior adviser on Western issues including public lands, transportation, resources and conservation, growth and affordable housing, the New York senator's campaign said in a statement Sunday.

Reid, 44, is chairman of the Clark County, Nev., Commission and a former chairman of the Nevada State Democratic Party.

His son is also a lobbyist....

In 2003 Reid was embarassed by a Los Angeles Times article on his son and son-in-law lobbying his office. In 2002 Reid introduced a bill, "The Clark County Conservation of Public Land and Natural Resources Act of 2002," which was ostensibly aimed at boundary shifts, land trades and other arcane matters in Nevada. The Times article explains that the bill would provide "a cavalcade of benefits to real estate developers, corporations and local institutions that were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars in lobbying fees to his sons' and son-in-law's firms".

Howard Hughes Corp. paid Reid's son-in-law Scott Barringer's "tiny" law firm $300,000 in lobbying fees and received "a provision allowing the company to acquire 998 acres of federal land ripe for development in the exploding Las Vegas metropolitan area." A Nevada law firm that employs all four of Reid's sons represented a group of real estate developers that received helpful provisions in the Clark County bill.

Reid argued that the bill would help Nevada's economy while protecting the environment. The bill "placed an additional 440,000 acres of federal land under wilderness protection".

Reid's son Key and Barringer have represented almost every industry in Nevada, all of them seek Reid's help on federal matters. Reid initially defended his son's lobbying as perfectly legal and clean, noting that they had to file biannual reports. He later banned family members from lobbying anyone in his office.

So harry can play just as dirty as Hillary.....

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:36:09 GMT

To the people still posting about the race/gender debate of the last several days, you need to stop it, because your own candidates said they want their supports to stop, and it will only serve republican interests in the general election.

Pat Huntington NY (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:06 AM)

Kind of funny that you mention that Pat....
Since it was Hillary that started it....
and Bill had to pull out the "S" word......

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OC Voter, Irvine< CA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:37:28 GMT

Hillary simply won my vote!

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:38:38 GMT

Betty, S.C.:'...Tell me one thing Obama supporters, do you guys really support Louis Farrakhan? "OBAMA DOES" and his minister Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of his United Trinity Church of Christ honored Farrakhan just last month?.....'

Has the Clinton campaign stopped race baiting ?
I guess not

Another Clinton sock puppet....
Do they dare do this from campaign headquarters ?

The Clinton campaign decided after Iowa to go negative on Obama
They're trying to increase his negatives.....

Our first viable AFRICAN AMERICAN CANDIDATE !!
(and he's being SMEARED by the Clinton HATE MACHINE)

Do you want THIS for the next four years ?
NO THANKS

Obama/Edwards '08
Honesty, Integrity, REAL REFORM

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Elly, Washington DC — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:39:36 GMT

I can't believe all the comments about "so and so never fails to mention various things about Obama's past" etc. But the same old Obama supportors keep harping on the past personal problems of the Clintons. They never mention the successes, which are many, but get into their personal business every chance they get. Criticize if you want but don't play the "above it all" game when you keep bringing up personal things, especially when you bellyache about people talking about Obama's past indiscretions.

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Al, KS — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:42:18 GMT

Clinton...Me...I
Obama...Us...We
Edwards...The Mill...The Mill

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B. Obama — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:48:23 GMT

Please refer all questions to my staff, thank you.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:49:57 GMT

The racism and sexism in the Democratic party is alive and (tragically) well. It needs to be dealt with, so it's a matter of getting it out in the open now, or leave it for the Republicans do it in the fall. So which is it going to be?

Lawrence Tynes, Brady Park, WA (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:19 PM)

The party that had Bull Connor as one of it's biggest supporters is alive and well......

To this day, i cannot understand why African Americans would want to back a party that was hosing it's own in Alabama back in the 1950's.......

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Andrew, Philly — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:54:40 GMT

Dems and Repubs blah, blah, blah...we need a strong third party for true multicultural Americans!!!!

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MK,MO — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:57:48 GMT

Chaunda,Indianapolis declares "Cold, calculating" isn't that how a lot of men describe a smart savvy woman everyday.'

chaunda, it's worth noting that often times females describe women that are truly 'cold and calculating' as 'savvy' in the politically correct jungle we live in, hillary is at heart cold, she could not care less about the plight that faces working americans, but in her defense she has never had any exposure to 'doing without' or having to live within a budget, that being said a candidate that takes money from the same corporations that currently run this country is going to change what? she has already pledged her elegance to the 'powers that be', she will be of no help to anyone but the wealthy, take a good look at mrs. clinton, she's part of the problem in washington, not the answer, edwards is the only candidate that cares about america as a whole

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:58:07 GMT

Tell me one thing Obama supporters, do you guys really support Louis Farrakhan? "OBAMA DOES" and his minister Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of his United Trinity Church of Christ honored Farrakhan just last month?

Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews, whites, America, and homosexuals. He has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government, the media, and some black organizations.
Do you know some of these satanic Jews have taken over BET [the Black Entertainment Network]?” Farrakhan said in a speech on Nov. 11, 2007.
Just last month, Dec. 1007, after that speech, Obama’s minister and friend, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. and his Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, honored Farrakhan at a gala, bestowing on him its Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer award.
This is serious business and Senator Clinton would not associate with Farrakhan or Jeremiah Wright, yet
Obama was married by him and his kids baptized by him.
How does this help divisiveness in America?
Ron Kessler from the Washington Insider wrote the article - go here to read it http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/obama_wright_farrakhan/2008/01/14/64332.html
Betty, S.C. (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:11 AM)
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Frankly, I could care less. It is obvious, Farrakhan holds no sway over Obama's actions and decisions. Besides, I am more disappointed that this guys church is even being scrutinized. So what if the pastor or someone in the church like Farrakhan? Then I would assume that because Giuliani is catholic, that we automatically should assume he likes to have sex with little boys (priest scandal), or how about assuming Huckabee likes to do meth, get massages and screw male prostitutes(Ted Haggard) same could be said for Hill except switch male for female prostitute.

Keep religion out of politics!

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Pat Huntington NY — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 17:58:58 GMT

Jerry - the subprime mortgage crisis began before the Dems took over because the mortgage companies were giving out subprime mortgages under false pretenses to people who could not afford them before 2006, and foreclosures on those loans started happening when the interest rates adjusted. And even if the subprime mortgage crisis can be dated post-2006, again, the crisis had nothing to do with democratic fiscal or tax policies. If anything, it was permitted under the spend and borrow policies of the republican.

As for all your other complaints, they are rediculous...and we don't have a gas tax increase, and the dems for the most part are not advocating one.

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Mark Thieme — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:07:52 GMT

Every day I read here in the comments that politics is a dirty business. Yup. So what?

Life itself takes funny bounces from time to time. Better than curse life--get one.

What can we expect if we elect a human being president?

Perhaps some of the same stuff that bubbles up in us on occasion...kindness, insensitivity, intelligence, stupidity, altruism, greed, wisdom and foolishness.

How about we elect a person who can actually do the job? Someone bright enough to look through the right end of the binoculars.

Someone who loves this country and has reasonably kind regards for the rest of the world--at least until they take our ball away and call us dirty names.

Someone with just an ounce of wisdom and self-perspective... a dose of humility to go with self-confidence and a smidgen of honesty to balance the bs of political and diplomatic communication.

How about we settle for electing a grown-up?

Politics is a dirty business.

Yup.

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Elinor Miller, New york, NYC — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:08:18 GMT

I like substantive, wonkish discussions, and am always glad you are there to calm down your more excitable colleagues. Your contextual analysis was helpful: this is Nevada, think about what the locals will focus on. The more I think of HRC with all her talents coming into my living room for the next 4 years, the more convinced I am that I am going to vote for Senator Obama. I like the judgment argument, and yes I do remember those bankruptcy laws.

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Dave, TN — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:08:24 GMT

Jerry hates dems. Jerry loves right wing chickenhawks. Jerry does what he is told. Jerry talks tough but doesn't serve. Jerry is a george bush republican.

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Coy Reese, Shady Spring, West Virginia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:10:57 GMT

"...and a full blown recession is coming...thanks to the Democrats". Uh...dude...George W Bush made reckless tax cuts for billion and millionaires..who then invested in China and India. George W Bush funded his debacle in Iraq..a trillion dollars..by borrwoing from the aforementioned China. George W Bush stuck his head in the sand as his Nation's economy collapsed around him. Nope..not any of this is the Democracts fault..it is 100% the fault of the inept Bush and his rubberstamp do nothing Congress who ran this nation for the better part of 5 years.

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Robert Nash, Newport, RI — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:12:30 GMT

'Last night’s debate didn’t feature any fireworks'

Perhaps that's because the one with all the ideas. Kucinich was locked out by NBC.

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Jimmy CHICAGO IL — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:19:39 GMT

Maybe if they gave all the earmarks back, maybe they would have the money for bridge work....
jerry/corpus christi texas (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 12:04 PM)
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Yeah over a decade's worth of earmarks, made by the Republican congress. I do recall that the amount of earmarks grew and grew and grew throughout the Bush presidency. Your guys broke the record for the most earmarks. Your guys insist on cutting taxes and making them permanent all while spending over 2 billion per week (this is a gross underwstimation, by the way). It was your guys that did this, don't try to push the blame to anywhere else but your corner.

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jimmy CHITOWN — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:29:46 GMT

Jerry CC TX....... Just curious, if your parents got divorced, would they still be brother and sister?

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Sierra, SF — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:36:35 GMT

'Chaunda,Indianapolis: '..."Cold, calculating" isn't that how a lot of men describe a smart savvy woman everyday....'

Thanks for engaging in GENDER POLITICS....

Hillary has been cold and calculataing in her attacks on Obama trying to raise his negatives
This is a planned campaign

She has been dishonest in trying to claim their records were the same on Iraq.... she voter FOR WAR

Hillary is unethical in trying to disenfranchise Nevada culinary workers. Her supporters are suing to prevent culinary worker from caucusing

Her whole campaign has been divisive after she fell behind. Hillary's surrogates HAVE BEEN ATTACKING OBAMA all campaign season....

Bill Shaheen with 'drug dealing'
Bob Kerry attacked with 'muslim'
Mark Penn with 'cocaine'
Her Iowa county chairman with 'muslim' emails
Bob Johnson
Charles Rangel
these are ALL CLINTON SURROGATES MAKING ATTACKS

Hillary Clinton, cold, calculating, dishonest, unethical, divisive

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Josh Turner — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:47:05 GMT

It's almost like Chris Matthews is acting goofy to get better ratings for his show. Looks like it's one last ditch attempt by him to be somewhat relevant. It hasn't worked for his friend Keith though, so it's doubtful it will work for him.

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Carrie Paul — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:50:18 GMT

<<I would love to see Hillary as President, Obama as Vice President, Biden as Secretary of State, Richardson as the UN ambassador, and Edwards or Kucinich to head a new cabnet position dealing with poverty in America with Bill Clinton as a roving ambassador to any hot spots that are in need of the US having need for better relations with hostile countries.>>

One question - how's your Russian? Cause that's what we'd all be speaking by the time this outfit finished.

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Francis Crosby, Columbus Georgia. — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:13:00 GMT

OMG!! Dear cb, MI

"Cou de Graw"

cb, MI

It's "coup de grace", meaning mercy killing
cb, MI (Sent Wednesday, January 16, 2008 11:14 AM)

No cb! It's "Cou de Graw" meaning pistol shot to the head/heart or death blow...

Hillary played Obama like a fiddle with her "hugging" him on the GWB Iraq War issue. It was not quite a classic bait and switch, but he did bite.. hook line and sinker... Obama's best skill is giving speeches... He is talented there. But last night when speaking... he seemed a little bit uncomfortable in his own skin, yes I agree he looked relaxed but he was having trouble articulating his message. He sounded more like a college professor, sometimes struggling for the right words. It was not Obama's best night, last night. He will get another chance. Hillary won on substance, she just seemed better prepared. Edwards may have been the most convincing... I don't mean to discount Edwards but, at this point it seems his his messaged is not getting a lot of traction.

I like Obama, but he did seem a little more out of his element at the table in a more intimate setting. "Bipolar" Chris Matthews, was right (overall) about the debate, his dramatic proclamation was not helpful to those who don't understand analysis, he did seem a bit overzealous in verbal delivery... But as to the fundamental components of the debate, Hillary did win, and she did appear more in control and thus more presidential....

To the so many people who's only contribution to this site is "ankle biting, stinging, and slandering," those who don't agree with their choice... It would be a lot more interesting if you would give some "actual" analysis, instead of Junior High school antics and denigration. It seems that many here could not recognize a "bread wagon" on biscuit wheels, unless, it is the "exact" wagon they are looking for... I'm all for raising the level of dialog, not lowering it... Give it a try, you might like it.

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PBrown — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:32:04 GMT

It looks like we are all in agreement…In looking at many of the blogs everyone is pretty much saying the same thing about the coverage or lack their of Professional Coverage of last night debate…

MSNBC, wants theatrics but doesn’t realize the American People want substance…..If their pockets and life styles were affected then they could probably comprehend what the rest of Americans are going through…But unfortunately they lack the ability to relate.

• And it does appear that Dan Abrams has a certain affection for Hillary Clinton but how do you judge that….If he was actually great in his thinking then he would not have sided with her on the WAR…I guess people think because he talk in such arrogant, condescending tone that he shouldn’t be challenge…Well that’s something he and Hillary seems to have in common.

• Pat Buchannan only objective is to push the Republican Agenda… He really doesn’t have America best interest at heart. It’s all about winning at the cost of Americans…It’s all about winning.

• Chuck Todd, I really don’t know about him….I don’t think he has a personal agenda; I just think he is cureless as to what Americans are going through…

• Chris Matthews, I must say, I was quite shocked by his behavior last night… He is one of the very few who I can honestly count on to give an objective opinion. The Democratic can’t control him and The Republican can’t control him… but last night he blew it….I could not comprehend what he was talking about….And apparently neither could many of the bloggers….In fact, many of the MSNBC Commentators he spoke with last night, were a little taken back of his perception of the debate.

And yes I must admit Keith Olberman was pretty objectives

I took a break from all the political coverage with exception of last night debate…Because when you hear some of the commentary, they just don’t get… And many don’t know what they are talking about… Well I guess I must continue my mini boycott until Nevada Caucus on Saturday….

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bobf — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:11:10 GMT

The fearpublicans are out in force today. You got One More Time crying wolf for the thousand time. You have Jerry that just cherry picks stuff from his butt and tries to claim as fact. It is so sad seeing scared fearpublicans trying to be relevant by using fear. One More Time, just never ever leave your house. Talk about a scared chicken hawk. Get some courage and stand up. A patriot is proud, loud, and not afraid of anyone. One more Time, If we create the old Soviet Communist government, will you then be safe? Remember back in the days of no freedom in Russia. The Soviet government said to protect the people that they needed to take away all their freedoms and rights. This is the kind of government, One more time crying wants. He wants government to tuck him in at night, go through all his mail, scan his emails, rendidition suspects, torture people, and forget about those pesky elections. One more Time the loser would be happy with a dictator, as long as it makes him feel safe. One More Loser, you should move to Russia, it really seems to fit your cowardice just fine. Guess What one more loser, people will always hate our freedoms and way of life. The problem is people like, one more time a loser, will give up our freedoms and rights without a fight. In one more time a coward, will not even fight to retain our freedoms and rights. He is to freackin scared and a coward. What a scared little fearpublican you are and what a sad life to constantly life in fear. WATCH OUT oops my bad just the mail truck, you can cross the street, one more time scared.

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Ron Jeffers, Arizona Independent — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:25:40 GMT

I get the impression that both Romney and Huckabee would like to tear up the US Constitution and replace it with the Bible. McCain sadly, has turned into a Bush clone. Thompson? Please, go back to your acting job. There is an APB on Guiliani. If these are the candidates that the Republicans are offering, then they don't have a snowball's chance in Hades of winning in November.

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PBrown — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:25:05 GMT

By some measures, Barack Obama has a thin record. He's a Senate newcomer who has never worked in the White House governed a state or run a business.
Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton points to his resume as evidence that Obama is not ready for the White House. "He was a part-time state senator for a few years, and then he came to the Senate and immediately started running for president," she says dismissively.
Obama's accomplishments are more substantial and varied than Clinton suggests. And he has a longer record in elected office than she does, as a second-term New York senator.
Obama was a community organizer and led a voter-registration effort in Chicago that added tens of thousands of people to the rolls. He was a civil rights attorney and taught at one of the nation's premier universities. He helped pass complicated measures in the Illinois legislature on the death penalty, racial profiling, health care and more. In Washington, he has worked with Republicans on nuclear proliferation, government waste and global warming, amassing a record that speaks to a fast start while lacking the heft of years of service.
The Illinois Democrat likes to quote something Bill Clinton once said: "The truth is, you can have the right kind of experience and the wrong kind of experience. Mine is rooted in the real lives of real people, and it will bring real results if we have the courage to change."
After college, Obama moved to Chicago for a low-paying job as a community organizer. He worked with poor families on the South Side to get improvements in public housing, particularly the removal of asbestos.
"Nobody else running for president has jumped off the career track for three or four years to help people," said Jerry Kellman, who first hired Obama as a community organizer.
Obama also fought for student summer jobs and a program to keep at-risk children from dropping out of school. More importantly, say those who worked with Obama, he showed people how to organize and confront powerful interests.
"He had to train residents to stand up for their own rights," said former organizer Loretta Augustine-Herron, who was part of Obama's Developing Communities Project.
Obama left that job to get a law degree. Afterward, he returned to Chicago and ran Project VOTE. The organization recruited hundreds of registrars to sign up new voters, particularly within the city's black population. Registration jumped nearly 15 points between the 1992 primary and the general election.
The registration wave was credited with making Carol Moseley Braun the first black female senator and helping Bill Clinton carry Illinois in his first presidential race. It also got insiders talking about Obama as a political candidate.
Obama then spent several years focusing on the law, both as an attorney at a small firm specializing in civil rights and as a lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago.
As an attorney, he was on the team that successfully sued the state of Illinois for failing to implement a federal voter-registration law. Obama also worked on case of a whistle-blower who lost her job after exposing waste and corruption in a medical research project. The whistle-blower ended up with a $5 million settlement.
Obama was elected to the Illinois state Senate in 1996, when Democrats were in the minority. He proposed hundreds of new laws, including universal health care, tougher gun control and expanded welfare, but saw most of them spiked by Republican leadership.
He did have some successes, though — particularly in passing legislation sharply restricting the gifts that Illinois politicians could accept from lobbyists. Illinois has notoriously weak government ethics laws, and the Gift Ban Act was the first major new restriction since the Watergate era.
Obama also helped set up Illinois' "KidCare" program that provided health care to children in families that did not qualify for Medicaid.
John Bouman, president of the Sargent Shriver National Center on Poverty Law, said Obama's work helped make the program more consumer-friendly. He also said Obama was often willing to give up credit for the legislation if that helped win Republican support.
"It tells you something that as a relatively junior member in the minority party, he was an important negotiator," Bouman said.
When Democrats gained a majority in the Senate, Obama's political mentor, Senate President Emil Jones, gave him high-profile assignments, including two contentious issues involving police — videotaped interrogations and racial profiling.
Police weren't happy about recording their interrogations of murder suspects or having to study racial bias in traffic stops. Initially, they opposed both pieces of legislation.
But Obama made clear that something was going to pass with or without their support. Ultimately, police groups endorsed both bills and they won unanimous approval in the Senate.
Obama was generally regarded as an effective and practical, although decidedly liberal, state lawmaker. One of his Republican colleagues was so wowed that he has appeared in an Obama campaign ad, but others aren't impressed by his legislative record.
"I would say it was run of the mill, honestly," said Sen. Christine Radogno, R-Lemont, who entered the legislature at the same time Obama did.
Obama was a part-time state senator in that he served in the Illinois legislature at the same time he practiced law. He became a state lawmaker in 1997, four years ahead of Hillary Clinton's entrance into elected office, as U.S. senator.
When Obama was elected to the U.S. Senate, he said he wished to get things done rather than grab headlines, and cited Hillary Clinton as the sort of workhorse he wanted to be.
He teamed with Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., to study the dangers of nuclear proliferation and pass legislation meant to keep nuclear material from falling into the hands of terrorists.
Obama also joined with Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., after Hurricane Katrina to improve oversight of federal spending.
And he shared billing with a Republican presidential hopeful when he joined Arizona Sen. John McCain in sponsoring legislation that called for sharp, mandatory cuts in greenhouse gas emissions. The effort failed.

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Jo, CA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:44:03 GMT

If anyone is up for morality or ethics, Ron Paul is still running, not that you'd know this thanks to MSNBC.

Hey, and even if he doesn't get the nomination, at least if you voted for him, you'd be able to live with yourself for the next four years and look at yourself in the mirror everyday knowing that you didn't contribute to the problem.

What a wonderful feeling I'm going to have!

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SUSAN , Osterville, MA — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:34:45 GMT

HILARY SEEMS LIKE A SMART BUT NERVOUS MANAGER TRYING WAY TOO HARD NOT TO MAKE A MISTAKE, BARACK SEEMS LIKE A SMART KID WITH A NEW DRIVERS LICENSE, JOHN SEEMS LIKE A SELF CONFIDENT LEADER COMFORTABLE ENOUGH TO MAKE GOOD DECISIONS.

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jordan, bellingham, wa — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:43:10 GMT

does anyone find it interesting that in michigan, hillary....running all by herself...got 55 percent of the vote while approximately 46 percent of voters showed up to vote for ANYBODY or NOBODY else? i wonder what the percentage would have been if those whose candidates were not represented showed up, or if we knew how many people voted republican for lack of choices?

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pam, fairfax, virginia — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:19:44 GMT

I was surprised by some of the questions asked. They seemed designed to provide soundbites for the candidates rather than eliciting any information for the voters. For example, all the candidates have already stated their opposition to the Yucca Mountain repository in Nevada. Rather than asking them how they plan to deal with the nation's nuclear waste, Brian Williams asked them to repeat their opposition to Yucca Mountain! Not very informative. There were several other questions that were similar - - surprisingly low-quality questions.

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LD - Irving, Texas — Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:23:53 GMT

Tell me one thing Obama supporters, do you guys really support Louis Farrakhan? "OBAMA DOES" and his minister Jeremiah Wright, the pastor of his United Trinity Church of Christ honored Farrakhan just last month?

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Senator Obama does NOT support this award of Farrakhan. Per James Barron's by-line in the NYT today, 9 Jewish leaders have signed an open letter saying that the emails regarding these topics about Obama are false & calling for it to stop as unfair.

It states:
"The letter was released as Mr. Obama posted a statement on his campaign Web site distancing himself from an award given by Trumpet Newsmagazine, published by his church in Chicago"...

"Mr. Obama's statement condemned the 'anti-Semetic statements made by Minister Farrakhan'".

Obama went on to say, "I assume that Trumpet Magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is NOT a decision with which I agree".

Please try to fact check yourself. Senator Obama has condemned the action. I doubt that he would have been defended by these distinguished leaders who published the letter if the facts were otherwise.

The