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DS, Dallas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:34:29 GMT

As a woman, I'm disappointed that our first viable female candidate is only there on her husband's coattails. Even more, that her political tactics mimic those of Bush/Rove. Bill's not an asset. He's only pointing out that she can't do it on her own

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DS, Dallas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:38:00 GMT

All of this week's to-do over management style is why our country's in the mess it is. It's simple: Clinton is a typical (micro)manager while Obama is a leader. Do some research and you'll find that managers meet expectations while leaders exceed them. I want someone to lead this country back to greatness, not someone who will dictate her opinion and keep us where we are.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:40:53 GMT

Two v one. Maybe Obama should cry because he's getting ganged up on?

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David, Chattanooga, Tn — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:40:59 GMT

Did it ever occur to First Read that Edwards will win in Nevada? He is running you know. There is a big push on Daily Kos for a $7 million dollar day for the Edwards campaign. Its going great so far.

Edwards 08

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dla tx — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:52:15 GMT

despite Fox news effort to elect Gulliani----and --put down Huckabee, he is surging all over the U.S., i think he will win S car and win in Fla where he has polled well

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Pat, Boston, MA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:52:40 GMT

I thought the exchange between Mitt Romney & the reporter was interesting. I see nothing wrong with candidates getting testy with the media. They are under a tremendous amount of pressure.

What the reporter wanted was a clarification, since everyone is distancing themselves from lobbyists. The question was a legitimate one. Romney's answer was not. That's the point.

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Bob, Arkansas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 14:58:13 GMT

I missed Kucinich in the debate, and will have difficulty voting in November for any of the 3 selected candidates who showed up.

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Chaunda, Indianapolis — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:00:38 GMT

This article seemed slanted in an Obama direction. I mean Bill Clinton is only getting coverage because you are covering him. Obama's wife talks in support of her husband(as she should) all the time, you just do not seem to care to cover it. Do not blame Bill Clinton because he ran a successful presidency under which the American people prospered and YOU cannot stop hanging on his every word. If the man stopped talking you would report on how he does not support his wife. You should get to have it both ways.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:01:24 GMT

The Clinton's have done everything short of getting an Obama lookalike to do something nasty for the camera in their dealings to try and derail him. Nothing has worked. Yesterday's decision shows that the power of Bill Clinton has dropped a lot since the 90's. While some people see him as a god, others (like me) see him as a man who brought such dishonor on the office that it can never be the same again. Trying to do what his so called mentor John F. Kennedy did (as far as the ladies) is concerned just shows he is even in self doubt about his own legacy. While other's can say that Bill Clinton did his job, he will always be remembered as a President who lied to a grand jury, got impeached (though acquitted) and knew where to keep a good cigar handy.

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Ron, TX — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:01:39 GMT

I'm absolutely sick of the decrepid smears of the Clinton campaign against Obama. The Clintons find it acceptable to all-out LIE to the American people about a fellow democrat's views. I find that absolutely disgusting. Hillary and Bill better be careful, because they very seriously risk alienating all of Obama's supporters. I know for sure that I simply will not vote for such a repugnant and dishonest candidate who smears Obama with blatant lies.

The Clintons will stop at nothing. He shouldn't have to fear answering their attacks. There's a difference between "politics as usual" and defending yourself from deceptive, disgusting people.

Obama or McCain 2009

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txindep — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:05:32 GMT

The troll Johnson misses the point, which is that Mitt's policy decisions are not impacted by long ties to entrenched Washington interests. He does have old Washington hands on his staff (which is good b/c he has to know the lay of the land to take charge) and some of them have worked as lobbyists. But there is no evidence that certain business or political interests have undue influence on how Mitt makes decisions. His assertion that this may not be the case with McCain is valid. McCain owes favors and has buddies who have his ear that do have old Washington ties. Maybe if Johnson had let Romney make his point, he would have been more clear.

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Shadow, Hamden, CT — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:07:05 GMT

The one thing missing in that Democratic race consensus of analysis by the insiders is its certain conclusion: if Edwards is the kingmaker, then Obama is the king.

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Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:08:46 GMT

If Hillary would have said the same thing about Reagan, the Obama people would have been calling her a republican and wants to go back to Reaganomics. Please, the hypocracy from the Obama people on this post is incredible. This is politics. If you want to praise Ronald Reagan like the republicans do every chance they get, while you are running for the Democratic nomination, you should expect to get hammered on that. You want to talk about calculating, this guy is trying to get the vote in California and nothing more, by making that statement.

If you are going to tell people you are not very organized while running for President, you should expect to get hammered. Please, everytime someone says something about Obama, you guys lose your minds. I want you to look at what is going on in the rupublican race and all the dirty stuff that is going on. If you think Obama would have a free ride if he got the nomination, you better wake up. Trust me, Obama getting hammered once in a while will only help him in the long run if he gets the nomination. So stop crying everytime other candidates give him a little stick. Obama fans are just showing their age. Hillary has been dealing with bad press, most of it wrong, since 1991. We need battle tested candidates, not someone who is gonna wine all the time about old politics. That's a sure way to lose to a Republican in an election.

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Patti Hines — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:10:13 GMT

I'm not a Mitt supporter, but once again the media tries to create the news. That AP reporter was out-of-line and obviously has his own bias. Reminded me of David Shuster on Morning Joe talking about how reporters aren't bias - yah right David. Shuster being one of the worst offenders, only supports my opinion that most of the reporters out there will do what they can to either dump on or praise the candidate of their choice. And to Chris Matthews who made a half apology for his sexist remarks during the beginning of his show last night, I’m not buying it since he was responsible for a lot of the racial/sexist crap spewed in the last two weeks.

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Jan, Nashua, NH — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:13:24 GMT

I'm not sure why First Read feels a compulsion to editorialize Clinton's comments and not Obama's.

Why this:
(1) they (Obama's campaign) said the Clinton folks "enjoyed a 25-point lead two months ago and have much of the party establishment in their camp. So, despite their inherent advantages, we are pleased this should be a close and competitive contest."
(2)In their statement, the Clintons said, "The Obama campaign has been clear in its belief that whoever wins the culinary union endorsement will win Nevada. (3) First Read: "[Did they ever say that?]"

Instead of asking a snarky question about the Clinton campaign's statement, why don't you READ the Clinton campaign's statement:
"...has made it clear in its belief..."

Are you actually trying to tell us that the Obama campaign NEVER made it clear that their belief was, whoever wins the culinery union wins Nevada?!!?
Whew.

In an effort to be fair and balanced, how about a snarky question at the end of Obama's statement, which implied that the Clinton camp is the only one with establishment players, or that the Clinton camp has "an inherent advantage"?

I guess Barack Obama doesn't know any Clinton Haters, or any charter members of the Rightwing Slime Machine. Inherent "advantage" my arse!

Me thinks Obama is trying to backpeddle his original expectations about his inevitability in Nevada.

And me thinks First Read is still swooning over Obama's soaring hope and wants to give him cover.

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Wendy, PA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:14:19 GMT

I'm tired of the media pushing a two person race on us and telling us that John Edwards has no chance. He beat Clinton in Iowa and could very well beat her in Nevada. But it's the voters who decide, not the media.
According to MSNBC delegate count-
Clinton 24
Edwards 18
Obama 25

Plus Edwards is the only candidate who will get republican crossover votes in the general election. Republicans will not crossover and vote for Clinton or Obama just like they didn't crossover and vote for John Kerry.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:14:56 GMT

FIRST READ "...In their statement, the Clintons said, "The Obama campaign has been clear in its belief that whoever wins the culinary union endorsement will win Nevada. [Did they ever say that?]..."

Not outright, no.
But, they've certainly "implied" it, as has MSNBC's FIRST READ (and REPEATEDLY so) over the course of the last week.

FIRST READ..."Why are both sides setting expectations that they might lose? Because no one -- and we mean no one -- knows what will happen on Saturday."

Now, you just got done stating in a previous thread, that two seperate polls show Hillary leading in Nevada by %5, and 9%.
Then you come out with this.
Why must you spin everything so negatively against Hillary?
Doesn't sound to me like Hillary thinks she's going to lose at all.
Just sounds like she's being appropriately humble, and probably a little cautious since you media types were dead-ass-wrong about NH.
The bias, unfair coverage just never ends, does it?

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Rep0X — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:15:50 GMT

[Did they ever say that?] We will leave it up to the people of Nevada to make that decision."

-------------------------------------------------------

U are the media, right? How about doing Ur job and be informative, and STOP letting the Clintons have their free-lies pass!
The Obama camp never said that, and U know it!

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Joe — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:16:51 GMT

Stopwatchingfoxnews...battle tested maybe but not battleaxes...old ones at that. have you looked at her and mcCain when they havn't had time to get the botox shots or air brushes...geez

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Chaunda — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:19:09 GMT

I wish Obama would stop trying to reach across the aisle and concentrate on the issues and division of his own party.

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Pat, Boston — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:19:50 GMT

Barack Obama should ask the following question at his next campaign stump speech: Who am I running against - Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton?

Because from all appearances, it looks as though Bill Clinton is running for a third term.

And yes, their campaign does remind me of the techniques Karl Rove would use.

Hillary Clinton is looking warm and kind, yet at the same time, Bill Clinton is going for the gut, the knock down punch.

Who exactly is the candidate?

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To Do List — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:20:13 GMT

Obama should pick-up Hillary’s comments about foreign investments in Citi and Merrill. Hillary was against it while her chief campaign guy Mark Penn’s company represents these foreign investments. If it is Obama or Edwards in that situation both Clintons would have skewered them. Time for Obama and Edwards to bring-up these and engage actively.

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Barbara C., Pompano Beach, FL — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:20:15 GMT

Two things on your statements today --

1) I wrote to Hillary three months ago that Bill Clinton, who up until then, had pretty much stayed out of it...AND TOLD HIM TO SHUT UP...if he wants his wife to be president.

2) I am predicting Mitt Romney to win Nevada, and I agree, dare I say it --- with Pat Buchanan that McCain absolutely needs to win S.C. to stay viable.

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Diogenes — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:21:07 GMT

What do they put in the water in Texas?

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/01/15/about_that_sc_memo.html

By Anne Kornblut
LAS VEGAS -- Tonight, Barack Obama contradicted the message that had been coming from his campaign on one point. His advisers had not previously taken responsibility for a memo from his South Carolina press secretary outlining verbal missteps on race by the Clintons. But during the debate in Las Vegas, Obama did not deny that the memo had come from his campaign, and said he would not stand by such work in the future, saying he regretted it "not only in hindsight but going forward."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/unite-here-divi.html

UNITE HERE Divides

January 17, 2008 7:28 PM

"Hillary Clinton does not respect our people," the Spanish voice says in the Nevada radio ad. "Hillary Clinton supporters went to court to prevent working people to vote this Saturday -- that is an embarrassment."

As reported by Kate Snow and Eloise Harper, the ad calls Clinton "shameless" and says "Senator Obama is defending our right to vote. Senator Obama wants our votes. He respects our votes, our community, and our people."

The ad -- decried by the Clinton campaign -- is from the union UNITE HERE, representing 440,000 textile, hotel and restaurant workers, which endorsed Sen. Barack Obama last week.

John Edwards campaign's deputy campaign manager Jonathan Prince, pointed out the hypocrisy of this, considering Obama's anger about the unions helping Edwards back in Iowa. (Remember THAT?)

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01182008/news/nationalnews/obama_rev_s_blow_to_bill_60735.htm

By MAGGIE HABERMAN
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January 18, 2008 -- The pastor whom Barack Obama calls his spiritual guide and mentor took a stunning shot at Bill Clinton this week, saying the ex-president did the same thing to black voters that "he did to Monica Lewinsky."

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright made the remarks in a sermon to his flock at the Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago.

Some say black voters should support Hillary Rodham Clinton "because her husband was good to us," he said, according to The Baltimore Sun. "That's not true. He did the same thing to us that he did to Monica Lewinsky."

"The Clintons will stop at nothing. He shouldn't have to fear answering their attacks. There's a difference between "politics as usual" and defending yourself from deceptive, disgusting people."

Indeed.

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diane — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:22:58 GMT

Judging from comments I've seen on other sites over the past couple of months, many think Bill is damaging himself and his legacy.
Maybe to some in the media it seems like Bill is being 'skillful' but, to those of us in the country we find him baffling, silly and exhausting.
What this democrat wonders is why in the world many in my party cannot see the Clintons as they really are instead of thru some gauzy unreality.

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Patrick, Sturgis, SD — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:23:12 GMT

It's too bad that your pro-Obama stance has to be so obvious, what happened to journalistic integrity?

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JJ Jax, FL — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:23:13 GMT

Now THIS is a brilliant story ACCURATELY describing the uphill battle Obama is fighting. To all of the Billary-lovers, YES, Obama does have an outspoken wife, but whenever she speaks, unlike Bill, I can still tell that HER SPOUSE is running for president, not the other way around! It really does seem that Bill is trying to play the 'ball hog' in this election, but he has to remember, his WIFE is running for president!

Tell me, if Hillary is this supposed 'great and strong leader' why does she need to unleash Bill on the Obama campaign/media every time things don't go her way?

The last time I checked, the 90's are now consisdered to be the PAST TENSE! Lets move toward the FUTURE!

OBAMA '08!!!

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diane — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:28:14 GMT

stopwatchingfoxnews, you sound as bad as the republicans are with Bush when it comes to your beloved Clintons.
There are many democrats, including myself, who are so sick and tired of the whiny, petulant Clintons who expect to be treated as royalty and are entitled to whatever they want.
They are an embarrassment to many democrats and the thought of even one day of them in the white house depresses many of us.
Our country is in this mess because of the so called leadership of both the Bush and Clintons.
We need to break with these spoiled, self obsessed pols who only care about themselves and not the country.
Barack Obama is a breath of fresh air.
And he was right about Reagan making an impact on the direction of the country. And Bill failing to move it back.

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Sierra, SF — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:28:41 GMT

JUST SAY NO TO:

Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President

JUST SAY NO !

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Chaunda — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:29:06 GMT

Wendy
I think Edwards is a good man but to suggest that republicans will cross over and vote for him anymore than the other two candidates is not realistic.

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Sierra, SF — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:29:14 GMT

From the Politico:

'...January 17, 2008

Ad: 'Hillary Clinton does not respect our people'

The radio ad aired by one of Obama's labor allies
re-injects ethnicity into the Democratic primary
contest in sharp terms.

"Hillary Clinton does not respect our people," the ad
says in Spanish (original and Clinton campaign
translation after the jump), referring to the lawsuit
that failed today to shut down special caucus sites on
Las Vegas' strip. "Hillary Clinton is shameless."

"Sen. Obama is defending our right to vote. Sen. Obama
wants our votes. He respects our votes, our community,
and our people. Sen. Obama’s campaign slogan is 'Si Se
Puede.' Vote for a president who respects us, and who
respects our right to vote," the ad says, according to
a transcript provided by the Clinton campaign and
confirmed in part by a union official.

On a conference call arranged by the Clinton campaign,
two of her supporters denounced the spot and demanded
that Obama distance himself from it. They also said
the Clinton campaign had no involvement in the
lawsuit, which was filed by Clinton supporters and
defended by Bill Clinton.

"It’s pathetic and it's sad and it's unfortunate that
they have to stoop so low," said Dolores Huerta, a
longtime Hispanic labor leader who supports Clinton.
She said she had never met Obama in her years of
working on Hispanic causes, and suggested the ad was
prompted by his lack of Hispanic support.

"I have yet to find even one worker — a Latino worker
— who is supporting Barack Obama," she said.

The political director for the textile and hotel
workers' union UNITE-HERE, Tom Snyder, confirmed a
portion of the transcript, and defended the decision
to run it.

"We're doing this because forces allied with her
campaign are trying to keep our members out of voting
through this lawsuit, which neither Senator Clinton
nor former President Clinton have denounced," he
said....'

Truer words have NEVER BEEN SPOKEN
Hillary was trying to SUPPRESS VOTES in Nevada
Her evil plot failed !!

JUST SAY NO TO:

Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President

JUST SAY NO !

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creation of NAFTA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:29:51 GMT

Obama is straight forward and truthful to the people. He told truth about our ridiculous tax code that would allow Warren Buffet to pay less taxes than his SECRETARY??!!!

Obama was against the Iraq war from jump.

His economic plan makes the most sense!! For all you Republicans and indep., even KARL ROVE SAID HILLARY’S economic plan makes no sense because she is planning to spend money we don’t have right now. (look up the article where he addressed the RNC!)

About 45% of people in Michigan voted UNCOMMITTED and thousands voted for Dodd who isn’t even in the race anymore. What does that say about Clinton? NOT ELECTABLE as she thought!

If Hillary wants to ride off her husband’s coat tails, Bill Clinton voted for the creation of NAFTA which sold out many American jobs!!

As far as her Royal Magesty of the Bush-Clinton American dynasty….Where to begin??

First, it is unfortunate Sen. Clinton is blaming Sen. Hagel for her vote for the Iraq war.

Second, Clinton claims that the country needs someone who “knows Washington from the first day of the job.” Well, what does that mean? Know D.C. insider politics, know the special interest groups and lobbyists…

HELLO, the people want CHANGE Hillary!! She still doesn’t get it!!

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gene britton — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:34:12 GMT

Do not expect First Read to say anything positive about the Clinton's. They tout Obama night and day. I note that on AOL that Chris had to own up to his sexist remarks about Hillary. MSNBC,NBC and Newsweek all are out to hammer Hillary. Regardless of who you support, it does seem a little unfair to hold the voting in the union's work place. The shop steward will be there to make sure they all vote right.

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Luci, Portland — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:38:46 GMT

Jerry wrote-

"The Clinton's have done everything short of getting an Obama lookalike to do something nasty for the camera in their dealings to try and derail him."

Good one, Billary is probably holding auditions now!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:39:24 GMT

If Hillary would have said the same thing about Reagan, the Obama people would have been calling her a republican and wants to go back to Reaganomics.

Considering that some of the things that Hillary has done is more in line of the GOP, one can make the assumption that Hillary really is a closet republican.

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Mark Rose, Raleigh, North Carolina — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:39:37 GMT

Personally, from the Dem side, I think this should be a race between Edwards and Obama. Clinton is uninspiring, awash in special interest...and frankly, although I voted for Mr Clinton twice and respect his presidency, I'm not to jazzed about the Bush then Clinton then Bush then Clinton factor; trading places in the White House for a potential 28 yrs. I hope that Edwards stays in all the way to the convention because his thoughts, ideas, and plans have been what is pushing Obama's and Clinton's ideas in the campaign

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MGC,,CA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:41:25 GMT

Anyone who thinks Hillary stands up for unions should remember that HRC sat on the board of Wal-Mart and was partner in an anti-union law firm. Look it up if you don’t believe me. Just Google “Hillary Clinton” and “Wal-Mart” together. You’ll discover the truth about her “support” for union workers

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John H — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:42:32 GMT

Bill Clinton will NOT be an asset as soon as Hillary gets the nom sewn up. He has been having affairs since leaving the WH, and it's even been in the funny papers. The media will report on Larry Craig and Mark Foley, but not Clinton's post-WH affairs.

When this comes out Hillary, with already high unfavorables, will be unelectable because another 5% or so won't want Bill back in the WH embarrassing the nation once again and weakening the Democratic Party.

http://www.newyorkbusiness-risingstars.com/images/2000/402000belzbe.jpg

Clinton linked with wealthy socialite

THE tangled love life of Bill Clinton was again under the microscope yesterday when he was romantically linked with a glamorous blonde.

A magazine photo showed the former president of the United States in an intimate pose with the Canadian socialite Lisa Belzberg, 38.

They were photographed by Newsweek in front of a refrigerator at her mansion in Katonah, New York. It rekindled long-standing speculation about the pair, who have been spotted together at a number of functions over the past year.

According to the New York Post, Ms Belzberg, a millionairess separated from her husband, the Seagram alcohol heir Matthew Bronfman, about a month ago following a liaison with Mr Clinton.

...

"Friends were stunned to see the photo of Clinton in front of Lisa’s stainless steel Sub-Zero refrigerator with Jonathan Alter’s cover story on the ex-president," the paper reported. The article claimed Mr Clinton and Ms Belzberg were involved in an encounter last month.

"She was seen flirting with Clinton at the Super Bowl party he hosted in his Harlem offices," it added. At the time Mr Clinton joked of his relationship with Ms Belzberg: "She married a guy worth $6 billion, but she still likes to flirt with me."

A spokeswoman for Ms Belzberg, who runs the educational organisation PENCIL , insisted that she has not been involved in another relationship since her split from Mr Bronfman. "There is no-one else," she said bluntly.

http://news.scotsman.com/billclinton/Clinton-linked-with-wealthy-socialite.2317821.jp

According to 6/12/02 Page Six of the New York Post: WHATEVER there was between Lisa Belzberg and Bill Clinton, it appears to be over. Belzberg, the brainy blonde behind the PENCIL nonprofit group that helps the public school system, was rumored to be more than friends with the former president, who lives just 10 minutes away from the mother of two in Westchester. "She's heartbroken," said one source. But there is little chance of reconciliation with her husband, Matthew Bronfman. The Seagram heir, who split with Lisa in February, is said to be very happily dating a fashion industry executive, Stacy Kaye.

Inside Politics 6/13/02: "The New York Post reported yesterday that the relationship between former President Bill Clinton and Lisa Belzberg 'appears to be over.' If we do the math, that means that Mr. Clinton and the pretty blonde socialite lasted seven weeks. "Tabloid rumors of a romance between the two appeared around April 23, claiming the pair met at a Christmas party last year. Mr. Clinton behaved like 'a big old hound dog' and later, trysts reportedly took place in mid-afternoons on the 24th floor of New York's chichi Hudson Hotel."

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Sierra, SF — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:44:14 GMT

'... barring some bizarre game-changing moment -- that maybe 100 delegates will separate Clinton and Obama, with Edwards garnering enough delegates to play kingmaker....'

THAT WOULD WORK !!
OBAMA/EDWARDS '08

That is our STRONGEST TICKET !

Let's give the American people something to VOTE FOR

VOTE FOR HOPE

Obama/Edwards '08

JUST SAY NO TO:

Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President

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juan, ft lauderdale,fl — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:44:55 GMT

jerry will continue to be on the bottom rung of the people who are delusional enough to believe that The Shrub's legacy will be better than Clinton's. Your lame cigar reference and lying about an affair that millions of Americans do on a daily basis. Compare and constrast. Please that is a no-brainer for individuals that can honestly and subjectively looks at facts w/o resorting to kool-aid drinking and blinded by Fox News.

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Jim Knowlton, Portland, OR — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:46:03 GMT

I completely disagree with you that Mitt employed "semantics". There's a HUGE difference between having someone provide advice and having someone actually making decisions ("running the campaign"). The reporter was playing fast and loose with the facts, and Romney called him on the incorrect premise of his question.

Not to mention the fact that it's unbelievably unprofessional to interrupt a candidate mid-answer.

I expect reporters to ask tough questions...but I don't expect them to be ugly and abusive.

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ge~pa~ — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:46:40 GMT

P.S. Repubs. won't crossover for any of them.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:47:11 GMT

FIRST READ..."By the way, how come no one has acknowledged just how difficult it is to do what Obama is doing and that's be on the small side of a 2-on-1 game. Billary vs. Obama, not the fairest of fights, is it? ..."

How about the media's "pile it all on Hillary" strategy, which FIRST READ, I'm sorry to say, has fully fed into?
How fair is THAT?
While the Clinton's may have a two-tiered-attack game plan; the media has been playing "zone defense" against them on behalf of Obama. By making commentary like the one above, and by failing to ask Obama what he means by the word "change."
He is never asked to explain what he's going to change, or how he's going to change it. The media (including MSNBC's FIRST READ) allows him to get away with all sorts of rhetoric without asking him for any substance.
Just thought I'd point this all out to you, in the spirit of promoting "fairness" and a "fair fight."

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PollM, Dallas TX — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:47:21 GMT

Democratic Nevada Caucus - Prediction Time!

The road to the White House now goes through Nevada because Saturday's statewide caucuses

will help to clarify presidential nomination races in both major parties.

Who do you predict will win the Democratic Nevada Presidential Caucus?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1551

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Republican Nevada Caucus - Prediction Time!

Who do you predict will win the Republican Nevada Presidential Caucus?

http://www.youpolls.com/details.asp?pid=1552

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ki houston — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:47:23 GMT

some people will say anything to try to cover the clintons blatent lies.

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DS, Dallas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:48:27 GMT

Wendy - you are so wrong about crossover votes. I know several republican voters who've never voted for a democrat who are currently supporting Obama. His appeal (I've heard) is that he may disagree, but he listens and shows respect. If the repubs want a populist, they've got Huckabee.

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Sierra, SF — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:49:58 GMT

Sometimes, even a Republican nut case can have a good point:

From First Read:

'...Duncan will say: “Senator Clinton certainly wants us to trust her. She says she’s running on her experience and her record. But she doesn’t want to give us access to the documents that would allow us to judge that experience and that record on our own...'

WHAT ARE THE CLINTON'S HIDING ?
What's in THOSE RECORDS ?
More evidence of Clinton's corruption ?

JUST SAY NO TO:

Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President

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Nashville_fan — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:50:22 GMT

To Jan, Nashua, NH:

It was the media who equated winning the union endorsement with winning the Nevada caucus, not the Obama campaign. Once again, Senator Clinton is trying to put the words of other's into Senator Obama's mouth. Only problem is, it's not going to work.

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juan,ft lauderdale,fl — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:53:47 GMT

Having a brokered convention in either/or both parties is very appealing compared to past conventions throughout the decades that were just glorified and expensive pre-ordained pep rallies.

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C.K. Steele Fort Lauderdale, FL — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 15:54:45 GMT

Obama is looking good out there. I like Bill but he can't really think that we believe the Clinton campaign had absolutely nothing to do with that lawsuit. C'mon Bubba! By the way, can someone from Nevada please let me know the proper pronounciation of the word.

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tom jones, tulsa, ok — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:00:41 GMT

Wendy, quite the contrary, Obama's crossover appeal is exactly what makes him such a great candidate. Those republicans he does not win over, find his honesty disarming enough that they would not mobilize against him. I've heard that around 15 percent of Obama's voters in Iowa were republicans.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:01:21 GMT

"...some people will say anything to try to cover the clintons blatent lies. ..."
ki houston (Sent Friday, January 18, 2008 10:47 AM)

Obama saying that he passed "sweeping healthcare reform in Illinois" isn't exactly "truth personafied" either, sweetie.

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PCarter, New York — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:03:48 GMT

I want everybody to remember that we are supposed to be a civilized country. If we are than what Barak Obama is running on is a new way to have a political debate. If Hillary beats him on the merits so be it. Remember also that Barak did not start any of this mess, Hillarys' husband did. There have been three occasions when people have spoke on behalf of Hillary and three separate retractions of those statements. They were Bob Johnson, Charlie Rangel, and Sheehan. Do you think they were mistakes or lets see if we can throw enough stuff out there and see what sticks. I have never seen people put their feet in their mouth so much. Is this Hillarys' responsibility, you better believe it is. As an African American man I am appalled and it shows me that we need a difference maker. Hillary never denounced the comments until the debate. I wonder why!!?

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Al, KS — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:04:35 GMT

Just thought I would let you know about something going on in a Feb 5th state. Our state has a caucus, similar to Iowa. There are a bunch...ok a few...women who won't or can't bring themselves to vote for any of the Republican candidates. These are voters who have probably never voted for a Democrat in this big, square red state, but they really want to defeat Hillary. They realize that none of the Republicans are likely to defeat Hillary in the general. The solution...they plan to caucus for Obama. That's the only way they can find to keep Hillary out of the White House. Not saying that this is the view of a lot of voters, but thought it was an interesting concept.

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Nancy, Chicago, IL — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:04:52 GMT

I agree with Wendy, PA. I keep looking at the total number needed and considering the fact that they are only calling this because of polls and a very few primaries, I think calling it a 2 person race in either the Republican's or the Democrat's race is very premature. I feel that the press is causing a fear that may cause some voters to vote for one of the other candidates only because we're being told Edwards or whomever cannot win. It's not fair to any of them or the voters.
I liked when one of the commentators in the Nevada debate asked Edwards how it felt to be a white male in this race. It often appears that the press thinks that Democrats will not vote for one.

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Steve, Hartford, CT — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:06:14 GMT

OK, Hillary supporters, it's time to open your eyes now. You'll be dizzy for a second, because you've been spun so much. Here, have a look:

Jan in Nashua: The snarky question is there in order to make sure that First Read isn't just parroting the Clinton campaign. The reason there's no snarky question after Obama's statement is that his doesn't put words in Clinton's mouth. Clinton's campaign on the other hand is asserting that the Obama campaign said something, and First Read, lacking the time to read through what is by now thousands of pages of campaign coverage, is questioning the validity of the statement. (And to answer your question, the Obama campaign has always tried to play down expectations, so I don't see why they would make such a statement.)

In other words, they're questioning something they think might be a LIE. Why doesn't it concern you that your candidate is LYING TO YOU?!

Stopwatchingfoxnews:

Obama made a very generalized comparison of his candidacy to Reagan's in 1980. He did not say he was in any way supporting Reagan's policies.

I suppose your argument is that Hillary gets her words twisted all the time? So tell me, when she blamed the Obama campaign on Meet the Press for the backlash at her own ill-chosen words (MLK & LBJ), how were her words being spun? The backlash came from two people who were and are unaffiliated with Obama's campaign. So I don't understand how you can consider that honest. I don't want a President who will blame others for his or her own mistakes. I find that unacceptable, and that's exactly what Hillary did. As a result of that, I will vote for McCain rather than her if that ends up being the choice. (I'd still vote for her over Mitt, Huck or Rudy, but McCain has a lot more of my respect than does Hillary.)

I don't consider myself a "Hillary hater." Until recently I was 100% ready to vote for her if she won, even though I support Obama in the primaries. But the negative tone I was already perceiving has gotten worse.

I was ready to look past the smears about the 'present' votes, which made up 130 out of 4000 votes, and all of which were conscious decisions to register a protest against a particular bill (that's how a 'present' vote works in Illinois).

I was ready to look past the 'experience' argument, even though Obama has more time in legislative office than Hillary and has been working for change for ordinary people his whole life. (He worked as a community organizer for $13,000/year after college, then went to law school and became a civil rights attorney in Chicago. He also taught constitutional law at the U of C and initiated voter registration drives that registered tens of thousands of new voters, which was credited with helping Bill Clinton win in 1992.)

I was even willing to accept the Clinton camp's attacks on Sen. Obama's Iraq record, even though he spoke with passion and prescience about his opposition to Iraq months before the war started. Even though I found it distasteful that the Clinton campaign would attack Sen. Obama for voting to support the troops once they were already in there JUST LIKE SHE DID, I was willing to let go of that and still vote for Hillary if the time came.

But to suggest that the backlash from those comments is the doing of the Obama campaign is just SO dishonest (and downright childish) that I am no longer willing to vote for Hillary. She has shown her true colors: her ambition knows no bounds, and she's willing to smear Obama just so that she can win. I find that unacceptable. If Obama were playing the same game it'd be different, but he has and continues to take the high road and run a positive campaign.

What about the 4-page memo, you ask? Well, that was an internal campaign memo, and it was composed of quotes from Hillary herself. Obama has had trouble in the past making sure his staff follows his vision of a positive, high-road campaign, because they understandably pereceive a need to hit back. We Obama supporters know that what he talks about is truly possible, IF HE WINS. We therefore take issue with Clinton playing dirty to try and make sure he doesn't win, because we see it as doing what's best for herself rather than what's best for the country, or even the party. The game she is playing is splitting our party. That much is very clear on all of these blogs. So, the question becomes this:

This is the moment in history where we all have a chance to stand up and say, "I'm sick of this liberal-vs-conservative infighting. I want to band together, figure out solutions we can agree on and get them done. No more bickering; let's fix this country."

OR

We can say, "There's no way that liberals and conservatives will agree on anything. Those (insert other side here) are crazy and we HAVE to BEAT THEM. Then we can do what WE WANT instead of having to let them do what THEY WANT. Don't be naive, hope doesn't get you anywhere."

Which side will you take?

Ultimately this election will decide whether America deserves a President like Obama.

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Stacy, Virginia — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:08:26 GMT

Edwards turned me off in the Nevada debate. He voted for the Iraqi resolution and now he regrets it. He voted for the Bankruptcy bill (which screws the people he claims he wants to fight for) twice and now he regrets it. He voted for Yuca mountain and now he regrets it. His judgement either is impaired or he doesn't study an issue before he votes for it only to regret it later. Either way not something I want in a President. He can't even figure out what he wants to do much less try to convince "big business" to follow his lead.

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J fl — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:11:38 GMT

Hillary will win Nevada, and Obama SC, but then Hillary will go on to win the rest.The Edwards people will split between Clinton and Obama and Hillary will win the presidency with a large portion of female and hispanic voters.The repubs will end up with McCain, who is 71 and looks, sounds and acts like 81. He won't cut it.Plus the economy will be completely in the tank by then.

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Steve, Fairfax, Virginia — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:17:39 GMT

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praks, SC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:22:06 GMT

Plus Edwards is the only candidate who will get republican crossover votes in the general election. Republicans will not crossover and vote for Clinton or Obama just like they didn't crossover and vote for John Kerry.

-- Wendy, PA

How about "just like they didn't crossover and vote for John Kerry / John Edwards". Remember, Edwards was already on a ticket and LOST in the GE. He lost his own birth state and the state he represented in the Senate. How is he all of a sudden MORE electable?

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Clev Springs, Ft. Worth Texas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:23:41 GMT

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Lynette, NYC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:23:55 GMT

My comment is aimed towards the remark about the weary journalists. I have never seen a campaign fought this way, via the media. I took several journalism courses in College and the way i understood it, the media's job is to report the news, the cold hard facts. This does not mean half stories fabricated into long tales, journalists weighing in on the air and in print of who THEY would vote for and who we should choose, Folks like Chris MAtthews touting one candidate this minute then kissing the butt of another the next. ( talk about flip flopping). The guerilla warfare tactics demonstrated by the AP reporter shouting at Romney like a heckler, and the grand puba of the genre Bill O'reilly practically tackleing candidates to the ground. Its all disgusting and unfortunately many people do not do research and rely on their information via these ridiculous sound bytes and sensational headlines. We live in a national enquirer society and the mainstream media seems to have bought into this hook, line and sinker and this is how the commander in chief will be chosen...

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Mark Thieme — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:24:44 GMT

Splitting the African American vote

Getting caught off base using dirty tactics (again)

Losing the white liberal vote

Adios, Hillary

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Just Wondering — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:29:43 GMT

Wow, Juan & C.K. Steele, both from Fort Lauderdale posted a comment within one minute of each other. Wonder what the chances of that happening?

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D. Morehouse, Seatte, WA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:30:58 GMT

Note that Washington State is potentially more relevant than you suggest: Democrats choose their delegates entirely in the caucuses to be held Feb 9 at 1 pm (not in the primary on the 19th).

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Ron Jeffers, Arizona Independent — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:31:55 GMT

Janet Napalitano, the female Democratic governor of Arizona, has endorsed Barack Obama. Speaks volumes.

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:34:37 GMT

Obama saying that he passed "sweeping healthcare reform in Illinois" isn't exactly "truth personafied" either, sweetie.

J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY (Sent Friday, January 18, 2008 11:01 AM)

Health care is really going good in the Clinton camp isn't it Merle? LOL

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Tim Heath, Scranton, PA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:39:06 GMT

Mitt Romney losing his temper?? I was decieved by MSNBC thinking I'd see Romney foaming at the mouth, shouting, etc. They got it wrong; it was the stupid AP reporter who was out of line and ugly, arguing over semantics. These reporters think they can create the news and anoint their candidate of choice instead of just reporting the facts. Romney held his cool --- he's showing he has Presidential mettle.
Steve, Fairfax, Virginia (Sent Friday, January 18, 2008 11:17 AM)

I agree, MSNBC has reported a number of things about Huckabee, who I don't support, that were taken out of context too. I think it boils down to the fact many on MSNBC (Mathews, Shuster, Olbermann) support the left and go out of their way to trash Republicans and any Democrat that their not supporting.

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Stopwatchingfoxnews, Rochester, NY — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:39:31 GMT

Sierra, you are now quoting a republican who got less votes in the Michagan Primary, than the 2% undecided vote. We get it, you hate Clinton. I, on the other hand love all of our candidates on the Democratic side and will vote for any of them. Since you really our a Republican, I realize you can't say the same.

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ROZ PIROLLI — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:41:05 GMT

DID IT EVER OCCUR TO ANYONE THAT THE REAL PROBLEM IS THE MEDIA? I LISTEN TO CANDIDATES STATEMENTS AND THEN READ OR HEAR HOW THEIR STATEMENT IS REPORTED, EITHER INCOMPLETE AND OUT OF CONTEXT. AM I THE ONLY ONE?? WHY DO THE REPORTERS CONTINUALLY TRY TO TRY TO MAKE US LOOK STUPID? TRY COMPARING HOW THE COMMENTS ARE STATED AND THEN REPORTED....SURPRISES

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kenn — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:41:26 GMT

As an Idiot I just want to say what other people say I think they are "TALKING POINTS" not to be confused with the point on your head.Im glad I can get my Opinion from PROPAGANDISTS like JOE scarboro or Matthews or tucker.The best was hearing matthews spit out an apology to hilliary that must of hurt like a kidney stone coming down the pipes keep up the good work anachrists love yall

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A real Independent in AZ — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:42:27 GMT

Janet Napalitano, the female Democratic governor of Arizona, has endorsed Barack Obama. Speaks volumes.
Ron Jeffers, Arizona Independent (Sent Friday, January 18, 2008 11:31 AM)

Yes, says he will support legalizing 12 - 15 million illegals and provide them with a driver license. Why won't the Democrats admit they will trade this country away for votes.

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CitizenJ — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:49:20 GMT

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Jeanne GA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:54:43 GMT

Obama is boring and inexperienced and who the heck is he and what does he REALLY stand for? He claims he's gonna change our whole political system to what? And how does he propose doing that? He's just another pie in the sky candidate, with little to no experience.

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--NSMsnbc — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:55:58 GMT

Wow, the amount that the media protects H.R. Clinton is simply amazing to me. She and her surrogates outright lie about the facts regarding the Obama campaign repeatedly, but the media does little more than make a note of it. The Obama campaign does a much, much, much better job at being honest, truthful and straightforward. The don't call her out in an effort to appear unbiased. As a result, there is as much ugly fiction surrounding Obama as relevant facts, and it is the Clinton campaign's fault.

That is what bothered me about Mr. BET Johnson. He apologized for saying something legitimate—albeit pointless and stupid—but completely ignored the boldface lies that he told about Obama. It’s a pattern with the Clinton side of the equation.

The Clinton camp needs to learn facts.

"It sure looks like Clinton and Edwards are splitting the white vote ..."
--I still think the South is way more racist than the "North"--aka rest of the country. But than again, somebody could probably fairly criticize me as a 'regionalist!'

*** The Bubba factor: is nothing more than the campaign spending political capital. I wish the media would note that--I'm not saying spending it is a bad thing.

*** Mitt’s fit: Stop being stupid media. Glen, the AP reporter, was very annoying in the manner he asked his questions. In W.M. Romney's defense, it was hardly the EXPLOSION of anger the media has made it out to be. He was rightfully irritated, and if you ask me, more composed than I would have been. He calmly answered Glen's gotcha question with a straightforward style multiple times. Stupid media!

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TH, Texas — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:57:27 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get the bumpersticker that says "Monica Lewinsky's ex boyfriend's wife for President"?

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Caroline, Bethesda, MD — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 16:57:50 GMT

How can Chuck Todd say on MSNBC that it will be an UPSET if Hillary wins Nevada?? The UPSET will be if OBAMA wins - which is what I am hoping the outcome will be! Both polls mentioned above by First Read show Hillary with the lead! Yes, Obama got the culinary support, but that counts for only 8% of the total. This is another example of MSNBC's pro-Hillary bias. Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell, etc. are trying to set up expectations that Obama has this won already, so that if he doesn't win it will look bad. Hillary is favored to win in both major polls! So the UPSET will be if Obama wins!

I sincerely hope that the Nevada voters will have been angered and turned off by the Clinton campaign's overt attempt to suppress the vote. Unbelievable that a campaign would stoop that low.

Please, Nevada voters, vote for Barack Obama. He is a Democrat we can be proud of!!

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ki houston — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:04:13 GMT

gene did you have a problem with it before obama got the endorsment . who ridiculas

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Dominic Iacopino, Brick, New Jersey — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:06:01 GMT

Tell me Chuck, how come no mention of that sexist remark your colleague Chris Matthews made about Hillary Clinton. Aired on the "Morning Joe" Show featuring Joe Scarborough, Matthews stated that Senator Clinton owed her election as a Senator and candidacy for President to the fact "her husband messed around". This occurred on January 9th. Not a mention in your column though. If it had been a comment about Senator Obama, you would have been howling from the shores of Maine to the Golden Gate, once again proving your total devotion to Obama. Why don't you just wear an Obama sticker across your chest and admit you are an Obama supporter.

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bb — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:06:07 GMT

Sierra is a republican, and my theory is that he is also Mr Jerry from Corpus christi. So much for anybody that still paying attention to that windbag. Hillary still got a portion of republican woman as Obama got some repubs too. It will be another exciting race, but I believe Hillary will pick up Nevada and Barak has SC.

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Tim Smith Portsmouth ,Ohio — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:06:58 GMT

I think its just down right disgraceful that the Demorcratic Party is so damn liberal that they are letting people vote in gambling joints what the hell is this country coming to .Why can't those workers go to regular caucases like the rest of the state .Hell why don't we let the prisoners vote in prisons why we are at it !!!!

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--NSMsnbc — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:07:57 GMT

I find it humorous reading these posts that the Clinton supporters become upset whenever the media addresses facts about Bill/Hillary Clinton. They prefer the good old fashioned Clinton spin machine, I guess.

--I don't think the media does enough fact-checking, on anybody, to actually report the truths.

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Mark M, Seattle, Washington — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:08:08 GMT

From First Read:

....historically interesting Wisconsin primary on Feb. 19 (Washington State is that day too...)

WASHINGTON STATE primary will only be staw poll for Democrats. Dems allocate delegates based ONLY on caucus results on FEB 9th!!!!! Republicans allocate approx half based on caucus and half based on primary. It's complicated but please be accurate.

For someone to affect the Dems' delegate count in Washington state they must attend the caucuses. For someone to have maximum affect on the Reps' delegate count they have to show up twice.

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Dominic Iacopino, Brick, New Jersey — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:08:29 GMT

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sue — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:17:35 GMT

The Clintons need to go away.

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ki houston — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:17:50 GMT

he did pass kid care in ill. but if he were to lie about somthing , i would not try to cover it up by smearing clinton . Which is obviously your specialty . Honestly i dont see how you live with your self , you have to know you are lending credit to lies ,mr.j

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Barc — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:18:58 GMT

Wow...you guys really have something against Mitt.
First Johnson interrupts Mitt. Couldn't Johnson have waited and asked, "Mr. Romney, what about Kaufman, he's a lobbyist?" Totally unprofessional for a journalist to attack a candidate and argue. If Johnson wanted to get to the facts, there were different ways...but obviously you guys want the blame to fall on Mitt.
Second, semantics? Baloney! The guy is a volunteer adviser. He doesn't MAKE decisions. He offers ADVICE. That's a big difference. Mitt explained the truth and the BIG POINT that he's not tied down by lobbyists.
I love reading my news off MSNBC, but I think your take on this is pathetic.
Watch the video folks.

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Mark C. Eades, Oakland, California — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:19:13 GMT

For Democrats, Obama is the Candidate of Confidence, Clinton the Candidate of Fear

As Democrats debate on this campaign and on the future of our party, the tone among Clinton supporters has come to differ sharply from that of Obama supporters. While Obama supporters exude confidence, excitement, and the will to win, Clinton supporters seem increasingly defensive; increasingly gripped by the fear that, in debating as we are now, we are fragmenting the party and playing into the hands of the Republicans. Clinton supporters cast Obama as a dangerous interloper who threatens to rip the Democratic Party apart, as an irresponsible dreamer, as a pied piper who is leading the children away to certain disaster. His supporters are cast as misguided idealists, as starry-eyed adolescents who need to give up their "false hopes" of something better than politics as usual and face dull, mediocre "reality." Surely our unruly behavior is already putting the Democratic campaign at serious risk. Surely even now the Republicans must be watching and grinning as we divide so that they can conquer. "Shhhh...," we are told by Clintonistas, "Be careful what you say.... The Republicans are licking their lips right now."

I say if they're licking their lips now they'll be eating crow come November. For any Republican who might be tempted to put tongue to lip, think again: I and other Obama supporters will vote for Hillary Clinton in November if she wins the Democratic nomination, as I should expect Clinton supporters will do in kind if Obama is the nominee, because we intend to win. The United States and the world can't stand another four-to-eight years of Republican insanity. Hillary Clinton is not my first choice among Democrats, but she beats any Republican by far. In the meantime, let the debate continue: Debate is, after all, the essence of that clever little Greek idea for which our party is named. We have the advantage; we can afford a healthy debate. With a field of candidates such as ours compared to the assortment of flawed specimens running for the Republican nomination, and with our enthusiasm compared to the mood of bitterness and gloom among Republicans, I'd say it is we Democrats who should be licking our lips.

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Lynette, NYC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:29:46 GMT

TH in TX your comment is just plain stupidity

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Enough to Clinton Dynasty, New York, NY — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:40:44 GMT

It is difficult to understand if any feminist could vote for her after watching our first viable "female" president defended and protected by her husband who reminds that she is not running as a woman, but as a member of Clinton dynasty. Keeping in mind the reality that she was dumped by Bill the republicans will play this card against her (and democratic party) whenever they could if she gets the nomination.

Obama is the answer, enough to Clinton dynasty.

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Chicago, il — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:42:04 GMT

So, I just want to make sure I understand: Hillary Clinton praises LBJ, the president who fought for the Civil Rights Acts of 1964 and '65, and-- as a result--has to endure people questioning her commitment to the African American community. Barack Obama, meanwhile, praises the "optimism" of Ronald Reagan-- who kicked-off his 1980 campaign in Philadelphia, Mississippi; who used the stereotype of "welfare queens" to push his extremist agenda; who fought against Affirmative Action; who endorsed Jesse Helms...etc., etc.-- and gets away with it. Nice consistency, pundits!!

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Trey, Indianapolis — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:46:45 GMT

The same type of argument for Clinton used four years ago to pick Kerry over Edwards because of his 'experience' and look how that worked out. Furthermore the number one reason I will not vote for Hillary is the fact that she has always calculated her runs for political office. She is from Chicago and yet chose to run for Senator in New York because it was an open seat (no incumbent) so it was easier to win. She didn’t run for President four years ago when Bush was highly vulnerable and she could have placed people on the Supreme court. No, she took the easy route and waited until there was no incumbent for the Presidency and again she decides to run. If she truly wanted to change America she wouldn’t wait until the polling was correct. This run for the President is all about Hillary and the last time we had a President with an agenda for the White House it didn’t work to well; (see George W. Bush. Sorry to tell you the 1990’s are over, if the democrats try to fight in the past they’ll lose.

p.s. she already has a 40% disapproval rating before ever entering this race and Obama has not attacked her on white water, etc ..., all of which will come pouring out as soon as she is the nominee. I’m a male black independent who votes in every presidential election and I will vote for Edwards, Obama, or Huckabee for president. If it’s Hill, I'm not voting. I believe the Republcian’s know Hillary is the easiest to beat. Why else would you think Rove would be writing opeds about Obama and not her?

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Pamela Gordon, Roswell, Georgia — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:48:13 GMT

Heard Chuck Todd say on MSNBC that Obama HAS to win Nevada. But it is OK if Hillary loses. I am so tired of this very, very obvious slant in Hillary's favor by Chuck Todd. If Hillary wins Nevada why is that a catastrophe for Obama, but if she loses, it is OK for her? Hillary has ALWAYS LED in the Nevada polls - not just now, but for many months! She has Senate Majority leader Harry Reid's powerful organization backing her. Why would it be such a surprise if she won?? Sounds like it would be a surprise if she didn't win! That said, why does Chuck Todd ALWAYS take Hillary's side in these things? Is it because of Dan Abrams' support of Hillary and Todd is afraid he will lose his job if he doesn't follow suit? Todd is so transparent in his support of Hillary, it is becoming laughable. My husband has even picked up on it. He hasn't watched MSNBC much until lately, but he just commented this morning when he heard Todd say that statement about Nevada that Todd certainly seemed biased in favor of Hillary. What gives, Mr. Todd??

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kenn — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:50:01 GMT

Isnt it sad you have COKE HEADS AND WEED SMOKERS RUNNING YOUR PRUDE COUNTRY

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j fl — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:53:05 GMT

Obama and his followers are phoneys and frauds. Mr. nice guy isn't so nice. We will see that when the skeletens begin falling out of his closet.He's nothing but a fraud.

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JL, Big Island Hawaii — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:53:37 GMT

I completely agree w/you DS, Dallas! She is completely trying to ride Bill's coatails. I would also like to point out to that Wisconsin is not the only state having caucuses on Feb. 19, 2008! This is the first year that Hawaii will actually have any say or meaningful participation in the caucus process. Please don't forget us...everyone matters.

You hurt my feelings! Ha Ha!

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JMO — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:53:44 GMT

You know, this intra party food fight is destroying my image of the democratic Party as more tolerant and civil. Apparently, democrats can be as petty, intolerant, and small minded as the Republicans. The character attacks on the Clintons by some Obama "supporters" almost sound like they are coming from republican plants. Why not try to stick to the issues? I am concerned that Obama won't rule out nuclear power. It won't prevent me from voting for him if he is the nominee but it makes me lean more towards Edwards for the primary.

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Beverly Rommel Sumner Washington — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:53:48 GMT

Like the GOOD BOOK says, many will be deceived and blind and deaf to the TRUTH. FROM ALL OF THESE COMMENTS I see the BOOK WAS RIGHT ON! With all the idiot remarks that I have read, we had better keep praying. Or are these posted remarks from the uneducated?

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Derek, Pacific Grove, CA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:54:07 GMT

I was actually a Hillary supporter until the Clinton campaign started using such reprehensible dirty tricks. It's simply unconscionable for the Clinton campaign to use these tactics. In stark contrast to the positive and respectful campaign Obama has been trying to run, they disemble and mislead and resort to misinformation and surrogate smears. I knew that the Clinton's could play dirty with and had some sharp elbows, but, I was distressed to see them utilize them against fellow dems. Maybe I'm naive?

I was aghast to see a democratic campaign try to suppress democratic voters through lawsuits that turn union against union. What kind of democrat does this?

I don't believe for a minute that they didn't know what they were doing when they introduced race into the game. I think it was a calculated effort to paint Barack as the "black candidate" in an effort to hurt him with white voters. It boggles the mind that they could enlist prominent black supporters in this strategy.

I've changed my allegiances and now can not bring myself to vote for Clinton no matter what. If she's the eventual nominee then I'm done with the Democratic party and I'm voting independent or green from here on out.

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Nick, Sarasota — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:55:14 GMT

This Obama guy can't fight his way out of a paper bag. He is totally intimidated by his wife and by Hillary. They both have bigger b---- than he does.

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kenn — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:56:12 GMT

Why cant the teachers Union cacus in the schools where they work? any smarty pants want that one except thier for CLinton oh and No But you can get a BUMPER STICKER that says I voted for Bush to kill 4000 and counting soldiers chasing thier tails instead of BIN LADEN and my PRIORITIES are so messed up I worry about SEX ACTS instead of this countries security SUCKER

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Ron Jeffers, Arizona Independent — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 17:56:19 GMT

Why won't the Democrats admit they will trade this country away for votes.

A real Independent in AZ
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A real "Independent" huh. Nice try. When one of the most respected Governor's in the country....and a female one at that....does not endorse the only female candidate running....in her own party no less....that is a strong statement.

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voter — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:02:23 GMT

Yeah Todd like I would listen to you the one that has been kissing butt with Obama for ever. We all know who you are for. I already voted in early ballot and it isn't your guy.

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Lewania Chap, Memphis TN — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:04:13 GMT

This election is not about race, gender, perceived likes/dislikes. It is about a NATION IN TROUBLE. Therefore you simple minded so-called patriots and religious fanatics need to come to the aid of AMERICA. Elect the most qualified, experienced candidate running. Anyone who continues to support a party who has held America hostage, depleted her economically and morally could not possibly be true AMERICANS.

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b oconnor — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:11:55 GMT

I will point out yet again how biased the reporting in the media has become. Edwards is still in this race and from what I understand from NV and SC going strong (that is basaed on information from people I know in those state, not the media). How many more campaign positions will Clinton and Obama steal from Edwards - Change, It's Personal, No Lobbyist Money. It is getting a bit out of control.
Edwards 08

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kenn — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:15:40 GMT

You already have an inexperienced guy who wont pay attention to detail or what his subordinates are up to and he has the most powerful vice president look where that got you.

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Becky Las Vegas NV — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:20:00 GMT

Jounalists are supposed to report the news not make it....How about reporting how union bosses are intimidating union members into voting for Obama...and they have to do at work...out in the open where the big union bosses can see....and they call this a democracy???? Voting should be a private thing...Hopefully we won't have caucuses anymore here in Nevada...it's isn't fair for certain union members who work on the strip to be able to vote close to work...what about the rest of us!!!

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Decca Pheonix, Greensboro NC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:22:28 GMT

It's both fascinating and sad that you (once again) ignore Ron Paul. Not that surprising since corporate media is becoming exposed for what they are. Dr. Paul has the best chance of winning Nevada...there are RP volunteers everywhere, and (newsflash) he won the Nevada straw poll yesterday. And in SC, evangelicals are flocking from Huckabee to the monetary expert...Dr. Paul spoke to faculty and students at Bob Jones University yesterday. I am placing my vote for peace, freedom, and prosperity.

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Rosemary, California — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:40:16 GMT

I am glad First Read decided to point out the fact that Obama is running against Bill Clinton and Hillary. But you guys should report how Bill is throwing bombs out there and Hillary is jumping in. All of this is aimed at Obama. Not Edwards. The Clintons started this subtle race question with Bob Johnson, in order to draw Obama out to make him look like he is no longer a candidate running for President who happens to be black. But all of this was lost on the Media, when I SEE them still trying to tag Obama with the whole race and gender question. Something he did not start. Obama has shown integrity in all of these smear attacks. I don't recall him ever using Hillary's gender against her.
So yes, he is really doing a tremedous job on the campaign trail since it is just him. Bill is campaigning all over the place for his wife like he is running. So maybe he is the unofficial 4th candidate.
I would have thought they would saved Bill for the General.

Maybe if Obama cried and said they were ganging up on him he would get the same sympathy that Hillary is getting. What she needs to understand there is no crying in politics for a woman, regardless of how many times the men cry. Seems weak to me.
I hope the voters see this Billary gang up on Obama.

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Rob, Lake Mills WI — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:43:41 GMT

I am so disappointed in the Clintons for employing the sort of tactics they have been. In NV, the legal action ...while not "officially" sanctioned ny the campaign is the sort of disenfranchisement attempt that we progressives have been screaming about since 2000. I don't think I can EVER vote for her anymore.

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MW Weavil, Kernersville, NC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:46:26 GMT

At a recent debate, pollsters showed that the majority of individuals who viewed the debate thought Edwards had won it. Not only that, but he did beat Hillary in Iowa. There are other candidates running for the democratic position, and the media seems to be more caught up on the hype and sensationalism of Clinton/Obama and focusing less on the issues.

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Mike S — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:47:22 GMT

i think some repubs might vote for either Edwards or Obama in the general. BUt def. not Hillary.

To re-iterate above post,First read should be aware and maybe cover (!!) that Edwards appears to be in this State race in NV. They are an interesting independent bunch out there.

Edwards Q&A/rally in Nevada, covered by C-Span last night, was very electric and eye-opening . C Span happens to be what they call objective journalists, who don't insert their opinions and help shape who the final candidates will be. Get the HINT Mainstream Media? REmember what your job used to be?

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Shirley Batcheller Englewood Fl — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:47:27 GMT

Why is it that the media refuses to discuss Hillary Clinton's supposed "35" years of experience ? She was politically active in college, but, so were lots of people in that age group (I happen to be in that age group as well). She was a first lady when her husband was governor, and again when her husband was president. Her experience is as a state senator - let's discuss that record - her vote for the Iraq war and her vote to name Iran a terrorist nation, etc.
Shirley/Florida (by way of Massachusetts)

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Jan, Nashua, NH — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:52:26 GMT

Jerry in Corpus Christi at 10:00:
Why in the world are you so obsessed with Bill Clinton's sex life??? Talk about old Rightwing Slime Machine Talking Points!!

At the time of the Republican impeachment, Bill Clinton's approval numbers SOARED. Obviously, the American people do NOT agree with YOUR obsession over other people's sex lives. Get a grip, man.

The things that YOU care about have absolutely ZERO to do with the things that the American people care about. Because of that fact, I'm guessing you are a Republican.

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j fl — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:53:52 GMT

Lewania, you are totally correct! Just vote democratic.

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Romano le Politicien — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 18:56:54 GMT

Regardless of the final outcome, this will be a historic campaign. If Hillary wins, it would be dangerous precedent for our "democracy." Nepotism is not new to politics but think about politically ambitious couples making decisions and policies to extend their stay in the White House. No one is talking about the historic nature of having a couple run the country for potentially 16 years with just an 8 year interval.

Does not bode well for democracy, in my humble opinion.

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JL, Orange, CA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:34:56 GMT

Mitt Romney knows how to take on a biased reporter! Mitt's his own man and his not beholding to anyone except his family.

There's no disputing the fact that our nation is burdened with huge problems right now. If nothing is done to pin-point resolutions and then ACTION taken - we'll continue to find ourselves flailing in one free-fall crisis after another. Washington continually straps us in defective parachutes and pushes us out of the plane!

Doesn't it make sense to look for a presidential candidate who REALLY has the analytical skills, intelligence, focus, and experience to solve BIG problems and produces RESULTS?

Mitt Romney's successes prove that he knows how to help America be successful.

Romney will pull the rip-cord on the flawed parachute of our broken government and put us on solid ground!

Stop the free-fall.

Vote for Mitt.

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Percy Goode, Atlanta Georgia — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:44:37 GMT

I have longed liked MSNBC. However, I reccently heard another network say that this network wanted Barack Obama elected as our next president. After reading today's first read it is clear MSNBC wants Obama elected. In each of the articles covering the democratic race, First Read slammed the Clintons every time they had the opportunity, and didn't even mention John Edwards.

It is so discouraging that NBC has decided to loose its intergrity and become a "President maker." First Read, "say it ain't so."

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Malcolm, Huntsville, AL — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:48:34 GMT

America desperately needs an end to the kind of politics that the Clintons embody. It's just sad and crazy how the Clinton campaign will put words into other people's mouths - when has the Obama campaign EVER remotely suggested that winning the Culinary union's support meant winning Nevada? It was the Clintons who heavily expected the Culinary union to go their way and when they didn't get what they wanted, they use surrogates to file law suits to block caucusing on the Strip to counter the effect of the union's endorsements. This is the kind of naked greed for power that signals an unprincipled leadership. What Obama's campaign said was 100% factually true. Clinton enjoyed huge leads over Obama for months and had the backing of Democratic party leaders in Nevada -recall the debates in Nevada months back when if anyone said anything opposing Hillary, they got booed. The Obama campaign did not denigrate the Clinton campaign in anyway and simply suggested that they're pleased with their progress in closing the gap with Clinton. But you can clearly see the sour grapes attitude of the Clinton campaign, the same nasty attitude they had towards Iowa when they lost there, blaming everyone but themselves. Let us turn the page and put new leadership and vision in the White House. OBAMA '08!!

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Mark Thieme — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:51:48 GMT

There was a big argument among posters here a few weeks ago as to when the primaries would be effectively complete.

The very wise old men and women (most of whom have ridden off into the sunset by now) who dominated conversation back then harrumphed when I said it would take at least until March to settle on candidates.

The same wise ones were spouting national polls that "proved" Hillary was inevitable.

I'll cop to part of that. My sources were sure that Hillary could not be beaten, but rather because of several factors beyond the superficial, yada, yada, yada. And I bought the yada part.

Nonetheless I was nearly laughed off the blog for my rather vehemently held position (as if it were rocket science, no less!) that the poll emperor was naked as a jaybird.

So it is in politics and war. Smugness draws fire.

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4Wanda New York City — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:03:51 GMT

GO HILLARY

She is the one candidate that will bring the American people together. In fact I can see it now. After just a few months ALL the American people, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, Women, Men, Blacks, White and Latinos will be together calling for her remove. Hillary Clinton if elected president will setback the cause of women in power positions back 200 years.

By the way, what do Hillary Clinton and Barry Goldwater have in common? Hillary as a head of the Young Republicans for Goldwater in 1964 supported him against LBJ and also like Goldwater opposed the 1965 Civil Rights Act.

Go Hillary!!!!! Bring us all together!

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Dennis — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:06:58 GMT

Did anyone ever stop and think that what Edwards really wants is to divide the delegate vote just enough that no one gets enough, that it is a brokered convention, and that, since neither Obama nor Clinton will throw their support to the other, he (Edwards) will emerge as the compromise candidate? Very unlikely scenario, but then again, unlikely scenarios seem to be the thing so far.

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Russ, oregon — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:12:07 GMT

Obama = Emperor with no cloths
Where's the Beef (don't give me the "he has 8 years in the IL senate" that was a part time gig, 60 days per years.
Both Clinton and Edwards have more to offer
Words are not actions.
I for one do not want to be preached to for four years. Obama's preachified speeches are getting old.
I think he is a nice guy but at 46 he is not ready to be Commander in Chief, no way.

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Richard, Washington State — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:13:32 GMT

Democrats start things and then assume the defensive position when the target of their initial smear responds. Then the Dems say they are being attacked.

It's classic political operating procedure, perfected since 1992 by the Democrats, particularly the Clinton attack machine, who also apparently believe that what's good against a Republican is even better against a fellow Democrat.

Obama will either rise above it or fail to trust the voters to sort it out by diving into the muck himself. If that happens, which is likely because every political advisor in the country says a response is obligatory, he will be simply become Hillary-lite. When he does respond, the Clinton attack machine will say they've been attacked as if Obama initiated it. If Obama gets the first lick in, he is still "attacking". Republicans do it too and the voting public continues to be insulted, assuming they don't buy it all hook, line and sinker.

Obama's only chance to win a national election is to survive business as usual within his own party and hope he can get people who normally vote other than Democrat to vote for him because he appears to be different because a lot of Hilladems will stay home or vote Republican. The Clintons have the potential to sacrifice the presidency to the Republicans if they see that they aren't going to win.

Maybe. I'm just rambling to stir things up.

As a side note, much is being made of "establishment" senators endorsing Obama, Leahy for example. Has anybody thought about why Leahy would like a wet-behind-the-ears, inexperienced messiah as president?

"Come my young son, and I'll show you how its done. Remember, you owe me. Heh, heh, heh." Has Chuckie Schumer declared yet? Yes, Barack will have to contend with the establishment and they are already moving in.

Also, is the rumor true that Bill Clinton will be appointed junior Senator from New York if Hillary wins?

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Sarah L., Fayetteville, AR — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:14:53 GMT

I wish people would take the time to read what Obama stands for. His position and plans for healthcare, the economy, the war, and energy are readily accessible. There's even a matrix here on MSNBC that lets you see the candidates' positions and rank them. It's a good tool and only takes 15 minutes. Stop saying that Obama hasn't enumerated the meaning of "change" because he has. People who say this are only listening to talking points of the Clinton camp.

Also, as an Arkansan, I am truly sick of how the New Yorkers seem to rally behind Clinton. Do you think she actually cares about New York? She and Bill left the Whitehouse never to return to the people of Arkansas because New York is more advantageous. New Yorkers are pawns in their political power plays.

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Michelle Richardson — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:21:50 GMT

The Clintons have enjoyed the title as the "first black president", but that title was only given to them because, in our lifetime, we (blacks) never thought MLK's dream would ever come into fruition. This title was always on loan to then until the real "black president" showed up to take the throne. They need to do the decent think and relinquish that "borrowed" title. It is time for us to have the real thing.

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RealB.G. — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:24:23 GMT

Finally someone addressed the obvious. Obama is fighting three candidates at once: Hillary, Bill and Edwards. With the fast pace and two parties there has been no serious analysis of this modern history phenomenon. We are use to a current president campaigning for their party's nominee, but a former president serving as the attack dog during a primary contest. Our democracy would benefit from analysis now and not after the inauguration.

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Mark Thieme — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:28:33 GMT

A good-natured riff on a favorite children's book...

Good-night Hillary.
Good-night Huck.
Good-night to those squat out of luck.

Good-night Johnny Edwards
Good-night Ron Paul.
Good-night to losers, one and all.

Good-night moon.
Good-night stars.
Good-night van, wherever you are.

Amen.

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kenn — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:32:03 GMT

A pat on your back MARK THIEM ISA THE ONE WHO KNOWS

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Notfoxnews, Mt. Airy, NC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:43:19 GMT

First Read is definitely an Obama supporter. I don't think NBC is, though. Chris Matthews is a Clinton supporter. It is amusing to watch and read what happens. Although everyone like to take each individual primary or caucus and examine it, just remember fellow democrats, Obama does not have a chance to win the general election. You guys like to see him win the state by state, but it won't happen in the general election. We will be looking at another republican in the white house as much as we want a democrat. There will be democrats that will cross the line and vote republican if Obama wins the nomination. I would rather have a beaten, battered, wife of Monica's boyfriend than a republican. PERIOD!

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Pat Sisti Orlando,Fl. 32836 — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:48:46 GMT

Sen. Obama is a great guy but Hillary is brillant. I want someone who can speak to other countries and bring the world together. Go Clinton

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Eloise Graham, Clearwater, FL — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:49:46 GMT

After all is said about is subject...

We need Barack Obama...although some may say no. IF WE KEEP DOING WHAT WE HAVE ALWAYS DONE, WE WILL GET WHAT WE ALWAYS GOT or WORST. It is time to CHANGE. Hillary Clinton WILL NOT save the day...she is not an agent of change.

Hillary Clinton cannot control her own husband...and she will not control the males that are in leadership positions in the WORLD. Say what you will...the world leaders will not embrace Hillary like her supporters...her powerlessness in the world community will begin a war that we cannot win.

Please look at the big picture...our future, our children, and our country. The men that rule other countries will be glad to hurt Hillary’s feelings.

Let the Clintons be a part of our past...not our future. Think about this...how many democrats will cross over if Hillary Clinton is nominated? If people play the Bill-Hillary Clinton card...A Republican will be elected in November 2008.

JUST SAY NO TO:

Monica Lewinsky's Ex-Boyfriend's Wife for President

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Mark Thieme — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:52:32 GMT

Tell 'em, kenn!

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Brando, NY — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:06:24 GMT

Forget about the lame, lame polls and the sad, sad bias media. Go out and vote for your candidate. Go Barack! Go John!. Omaba / Edwards '08

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Bill Durham, Spartanburg, SC — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:12:09 GMT

When are the talking heads and analysts going to make it perfectly clear that Obama is playing by the rules agreed upon before the Nevada caucus relative to caucusing in the hotels and casinos. They are in cases suggesting and in other cases allowing others to insinuate that Obama has done something sinister or tricky to gain an advantage with these caucusers. If this particular union had agreed to endorse Clinton, she would not be crying foul. She would be happy -- and Obama would never have gone to court to try and change the agreed-upon rules.

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Cheryl,Seattle — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:16:33 GMT

As a republican I read these comments with great interest. I have never crossed party lines before, but am considering doing so. It would be for Obama. I base my considerations on what the candidates say and how they say it. It's time to gain back some respect in our leaders and I truly see Hilary as a great divider...not someone who wants to united the country.

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jane doe — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:20:14 GMT

To all the Hispanics who is concerned about Obama being african american. Voting for him is like voting for a Hispanic because most Hispanics are black anyway. They wont admit it because they have been brainwashed into believing otherwise, but its the truth, read history. there is no such thing as the Hispanic race. you find most hispanics of african origin and or from spain if not mixed. read and know your history. also, hispanics and african americans live together quite nicely in the community so dont let anyone deceive you into thinking you are different from african americans. you are different by language and place of birth, thats it!!!!!be proud of your spanish heritage but realize that the slaves went to puerto rico, dominican republic, cuba throughout the caribbean and to the americas.

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Wayne in Kansas City, MO — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:21:01 GMT

These conversations just crack me up! What makes any of these people think that they know the outcome of this race anymore than the media does? BOTH seem to claim that they have it all figured out! MSNBC and a host of other media outlets have all but endorsed Obama and declared him the winner. The only "news" there is here is that there is no news until the voters vote!!! I even have to suspect that the comments posted on here were hand-picked to favor Obama and slam the Clintons. The REAL obvious bias was MSNBC collecting questions for days for the debate and then only using about 4 of them in TWO HOURS, while Tim Russert (who I actually used to respect greatly) and Brian Williams sat there and ran it how THEY wanted it to go. What happened to the debates where ALL of the questions came from the voters, the ones who really matter???

My favorite comment yet on here was that "even Karl Rove says Hillary's economic plan won't work!!!" Ummmmm, does this person have the slightest clue who Karl Rove even is?!?! He's a REPUBLICAN crony of Bush's!!! What were you expecting, that he was going to get on TV and praise Hillary or any other Democrat for their grand leadership???

I don't expect these comments to ever see the light of day on here, but it felt good anyway!

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jane doe — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:21:35 GMT

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AC, Issaquah, WA — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:28:15 GMT

I had no problem with Romney's response and thought it was far from ludicrous. His points are well communicated. A man who's spent $17 million of his own money is not in this campain for any lobbyists. That's one of the most valid statements I've heard from anyone.

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PulSamsara — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:40:14 GMT

Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.

It's time for America to Rise and Shine again.

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jacksmith, Seattle, Wash — Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:47:25 GMT

Bottom Line:

Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See: http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm

“HR 676:
For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills.”

But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress twice.

But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!

We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.

I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven't forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it's her.

Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.

The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.

My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all... You are doing great!