'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Robert Hawes — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:10:11 GMT

It's my hope that this endorsement will help open the eyes of Christian conservatives, most of whom have been blindly supporting Mike Huckabee as the "Christian pro-life candidate". Ron Paul is both a Christian and pro-life, and, unlike the Huckster, doesn't use his religion to get votes.

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Damnstraight,Ill — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:20:09 GMT

I'll support a ban on abortion when males who abandon their children,are the fathers of aborted fetuses,or don't pay child support are physically castrated.
Fair enough?

Don't want an abortion? don't have one?
Male and don't believe in abortion? Don't have sex.

It's damn easy.

Keep your laws off of other peoples bodies.

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Ron Who — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:21:00 GMT

Wow, I'm going to join the Ron Paul revolution after hearing this!

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Like a Fungus amoung us — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:22:28 GMT

The Ron Paul Revolution - the new Code Pink.

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joshua bruce — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:23:22 GMT

As a Christian Democrat I have finally found a non-hypocritical religious Republican I would feel comfortable voting for. Ron Paul.

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Ian, Eastham MA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:23:58 GMT

I'm pro-choice, but I'm still voting for Ron Paul because this issue isn't the most important issue we face, not by a long shot.

Plus, what he really wants is to allow states to make the decision. So, the southern states can make whatever laws they want and the northern states can keep things the same.

This might work out well anyway. The US has had a shortage of babies available for adoption for a long time. Perhaps this will make it easier for those wanting to adopt.

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John, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:25:38 GMT

Ron Paul also received the endorsement of Don Luskin, prominent financial commentator, and former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson today. Combine this with his 2nd place win in New Mexico and $2M MLK money bomb yesterday and he has the most momentum of all Republicans right now. Dr. Paul seems to be the only candidate that can truly unite the fiscal conservatives and the religious right.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Ian, Eastham MA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:25:41 GMT

Damnstraight - There is no ban in discussion here. Overturning Roe v. Wade will allow states to decide.

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Travis, AZ — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:32:53 GMT

I pray that all those who are Pro-Life will see this and understand it. Now is the chance to make things happen for Ron Paul.

Fred Thompson just dropped out. The economy is going belly up. Conservatives think they do not have a real choice when he is right under their nose if they only knew where to look.

Please see the clear choice in Ron Paul.

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Tim, CT — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:35:59 GMT

Robert Hawes, don't hold your breath.

MSNBC likes Huckabee and dislikes Ron Paul. Look no further than their repeated adoring mentions (including on national TV) of Chuck Norris and Ric Flair. Compare this to David Schuster’s recent analogy of RP (and/or his supporters) to Al Qaida… again… on national TV. It was only due to Joe and Mika’s repeated demands for an explanation that Schuster retracted his comments.

And how could you forget Schuster for blasting RPs opposition to the Civil War… that was while Schuster was sub’ing for Tucker… of course, Schuster never mentioned that RP’s alternate plan (buying freedom vs. use of force). If I recall correctly, it was one of his guests who had to add that… and it is a relevant point… whether or not you agree with RP.

Also go look at the dates when FR (and MSNBC) started discussing Huckabee. Then compare those dates to the RCP polls.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

In the case of MSNBC and their obvious anti-Paul bias, it’s clear the establishment “MSNBC Opinion” came before “Public Opinion.” In turn, witness The Rise of Huckaboom! Brought to you by MSNBC and the MSM!

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Rosco1776 Folsom, PA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:38:07 GMT

People are finally waking up to Dr. Paul's message, he cured my apathy! We need a doctor in the house!
He's been predicting the economic downturn for sometime now and understands economics. Romney would consult his lawyers! LOL!
Ron Paul 2008!

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John Alexander — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:38:50 GMT

I will support a ban on abortion when this country puts up finances to help young unwed mothers and go after the rat bastard fathers who are proud of their procreative powers but do not take responsibility for their child, jail time sounds good!
Giving the states the options sounds good but then we will deal with 50 different kinds of problems as we do now with child support, adoption and foster parents and a host of other problems because the federal government does not really support the rights of children. This is not about states rights it is about protecting the next generations of americans.
Don't whine about taxes or federal laws, it's about the children of the future pure and simple.

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Uptight in the Valley — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:39:54 GMT

I'm pro choice but still pro Ron Paul. You don't have to rubber stamp a person's views to support them. He is an honest, good guy who spreads no manor. He therefore doesn't stand a chance. I will continue to have his sign on my lawn and his bumper sticker on my auto. It is a thrill to finally discuss an issue instead of the race issue. Lets have more discussions of substance.

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Noel, Vancouver — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:43:39 GMT

Vote with a conscience!
Thank you Jane Roe!

Ron Paul 2008 dot com

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Karl — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:45:48 GMT

Folks, it's a great day to be a Ron Paul supporter. Tancredo gone, Duncan gone, Fred gone, Rudy & Huckabee broke and soon to be gone. Won't you join us and help save America. Read more about Ron Paul's incredible rise the the presidency here:
http://www.ronpaulforpresident2008.com/

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Jimmy CHICAGO — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:46:18 GMT

Damnstraight - There is no ban in discussion here. Overturning Roe v. Wade will allow states to decide.
Ian, Eastham MA (Sent Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:25 PM)
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Yeah, allow states to impose thier religious beliefs on women and thier right of choice. How about if all christians keep thier faith to themselves, and I will do the same. Until then, any bible thumper that I find knocking on my door will have a 90 pound German Shephard to pray with.

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jab2ur — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:48:07 GMT

I am also generally pro-choice, but I am going to support Ron Paul. The issues of war, civil liberties adn monetary policy are of paramount importance. I do not relegate the abortion to unimportance, its just that the president actually has little say over this matter, but he has much to say about foreign policy.

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Laura — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:51:55 GMT

I am a Daughter of a Vietnam Veteran and Ron Paul's message inspired me to become Pro-life. What an inspiration this man is. Keep doing it Ron Paul.

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Economist, Aurora, CO — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:52:03 GMT

"I'll support a ban on abortion when males who abandon their children,are the fathers of aborted fetuses,or don't pay child support are physically castrated.
Fair enough?

Don't want an abortion? don't have one?
Male and don't believe in abortion? Don't have sex.

It's damn easy.

Keep your laws off of other peoples bodies."

This kind of selfish attitude makes me sick. I was born out of wedlock and given up for adoption. I was raised by two loving adoptive parents. If my biological mother had exercised "her right to choose" I would have never had a life and would have been rotting at the bottom of a dumpster somewhere.

Even if irresponsible fathers abandon their children at birth, there is ALWAYS adoption as an alternative if the mother can't take care of her child. The only reason abortion is "needed" in most cases is because women do not want to take responsibility for their pregnancies.

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New York New York — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:52:04 GMT

Ron Paul is the only candidate that will bring the so called "Change in Washington"
A vote for any of the other candidates is a vote for George Bush's 3rd term if you know what i mean.

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New Independent — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:53:12 GMT

Ian, Eastham, MA - Are you kidding me? There is a shortage of babies available for adoption? You mean there is a shortage of white, perfectly healthy babies, right? Seems to me I know a lot of people who are fostering a lot of children, so I really don't think there's a Shortage. . . And if Roe v. Wade is overturned, I guess you also believe we should ban all Death Penalty sentences? What about war? Should we never go there also? After all, if you want to make decisions strictly because life should ALWAYS be preserved, then don't be hypocritical. If my 13 year daughter is raped, I'll be darned if a bunch of old men will decide whether my daughter has to go through the pregnancy and the labor which follows. Not the mention the trauma of keeping the baby or giving him/her up for adoption. That is a decision we should be entitled to make, not the Supreme Court, or Congress. And what about when the life of the mother is at stake? Whose life is more important? You want the Supreme Court deciding that? I don't. That should be my decision to make.

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Dylan Odhner, Bryn Athyn, PA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:53:15 GMT

Damnstraight... There isn't a politician out there who would agree with your motto ("keep your laws off of other peoples' bodies") more than Ron Paul. He is the only true advocate for States-Rights -- a position which makes our nation a Union in which you can find a state which supports your beliefs. You are alright with people NOT getting an abortion if they don't want to right? So overturning Roe v. Wade would do nothing more than keep the laws of the Federal Government off of your body.

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Clay Shentrup, San Francisco, CA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:53:27 GMT

I lean more pro-choice, but I love Ron Paul's adherence to the Constitution. States' rights are paramount, and Roe v. Wade was a horrible decision.

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Angry Vet, Minn. — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:53:49 GMT

The Confederate States of America were also formed on the idea of "states' rights." Apparently, one of those "states rights" also included slavery.

Interesting that that code phrase, which is so imbued with a double meaning, still exists in this country.

You'd think Ron Paul supporters would have a sense of history in that regard, as you would Fred Thompson. Well, Thompson is gone, so now how about Ron Paul?

Well, at the end of the day, I have not heard, yet, a good constitutional argument by Ron Paul supporters that the "floating currency" is unconstitutional. Speaking of which:

Article I, sec. 8, para. 5: {The Congress shall have Power To] coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures"

So, what's the problem folks?

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ZinkDude, CT — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:57:54 GMT

I am strongly pro-choice and dont think pro-life matches the libertarian argument, BUT, I, too, will still vote for Ron Paul because the other issues of liberty are more important at the moment. So, Go Ron !

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NH — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:58:12 GMT

The Huckabee evangelicals in NH were tricked into supporting the preacher because they failed to see that he was being controlled by the godless and pro-abortion CFR and that he is not a conservative.

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William Smith — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:58:13 GMT

Paul is for overthrowing Roe vs Wade, which forces all states to allow abortions, and often with government funding. Paul, while against abortion, would allow states to make the laws - as they should. It's silly that the federal government makes this decision.

Abortion is a touchy issue, though I am surprised how many people seem to think it should be an automatic right. While I am pro-choice in general only because I don't want to impose my views on others, a fetus is in fact a living being with a heart, feet, and toes even pretty early on in pregnancy. I can understand how the climate in some states might give individual rights to an unborn child - it is life by basically all measures.

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Kellen Lewis, Racine, WI — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:59:28 GMT

Ron Paul is the only major player who is not part of the Council on Foreign Relations. Don't want to see the end of the United States? Vote for Ron Paul!

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Terrence, Atlanta, Ga. — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:00:14 GMT

If Mike Huckabee uses his religion to get votes from Evangelicals, then Ron Paul uses the war in Iraq to get votes from anti-war activists. What's the difference? What should Huckabee do, say I'm a Christian but I don't want any Christians to vote for me. That's just dumb.

Ron Paul is attacking the symptom not the source. Mike Huckabee wants to defend the Constitution against activist judges, by amending it to protect the God-given rights of the unborn.

Can it be done? I don't know, but it is perfectly in line with the Republican Party Platform.

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Sean Genung, Industry PA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:01:34 GMT

The federal government has no business in our hospitals or doctors offices, it is not a matter of interstate trade or international policy. Dr. Paul is pro life but he feels that it is not a federal matter but a state issue to govern this matter as each state sees fit. Vote Ron Paul to regain the freedom so many american citizens have faught and died for.

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Ronald Foster, Los Angeles, Ca — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:05:14 GMT

Allowing states to "decide" would be unconstitutional to those who live in those states. Just as it would be to allow teaching of intelligent design in public schools would be unconstitutional to those children of families who don't subscribe to someone's (and some board of educations) religious doctrine.

And for those who think this issue "isn't the most important one", maybe it isn't for you. But it is for others, and to think there is some sort of heirarchy of issues is pointless. All things matter.

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John Call — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:07:50 GMT

it's simple....if you want an abortion go to a state that will allow you to have one, or vote on the local level to keep it legal in your state. I think the whole point of Paul's stance IS TO keep the federal government's laws off of your body. There are much more pressing issues though....like our collapsing economy and almost worthless dollar. Paul is the only candidate with viable long-term solutions for these problems. Until any of the other candidates do, I'll be voting for Paul.

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RP, Iowa — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:09:04 GMT

Damnstraight - go back to your feminist blog and post there. What should women who don't believe in abortion do to prevent the 1.4 million abortions per year?(1 in 5 pregnancies)

Since it is your body, then if a pregnant women is killed, It would be difficult to consider it a double homicide...am I correct?

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Tess — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:10:01 GMT

This is a personal issue, and needs to be addressed at local levels, and not by our federal government or with tax payers dollars. Personally, I believe if a woman wants to kill an unborn baby, she deserves no support from the public to do it period.
If she does not believe it is human, let her see the remains of the aborted fetus when the procedure is done, bet she wished she had made a different decision. An abortion is no different than killing innocent Iraqi children.

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JPB, Silver Lake, California — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:11:09 GMT

Hey, maybe we should allow "states to decide" whether they would like to overturn Brown v Board of Education too!

Using Paul's logic, states should be allowed to segregate their schools, and force black people to go back to the back of the bus again, right?

Hey, if you don't like it, move to another state.. right?

(uggh)

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JK,NV — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:12:48 GMT

Ron Paul needs to step aside like Fred.This guy is way out there...Please do us all a favor and Quit...

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JM — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:17:56 GMT

I challenge you all (especially you Damnstraight) to take the Roe IQ test:

http://roeiqtest.com/

This is interesting regardless of what side of the issue you are on.

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sean truitt, san clemente, ca — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:22:05 GMT

pro-life means more than just roe v. wade. it means no more pre-emptive war. it's time for americans to be the "good guys" again. to bring back the constitution, we need ron paul.

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Raymond, Spfd, MO — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:22:34 GMT

Based on Damnstraight's argument: if you don't believe in murder, then don't murder, but don't tell the rest of us what to do. If you disagree with rape then don't rape someone, but don't tell me I can't!

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Vickie, Crystal River, FL — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:23:33 GMT

Way to go, Norma! At last, a pro-life leader who sees the truth. By the way, Dr. Paul does NOT say that states will be able to make up their minds whether or not to allow abortion. He says that states should be allowed to determine their own punishment for the crime of abortion. All you libertarians think that the woman should be "free" to abort her baby. The baby is a person, too! She can be free to do what she wants with her own body, I agree. But we're not talking about HER body, we're talking about the baby's body. Heart starts beating on Day 18. It's a person with the same right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness as the rest of us. Thankfully, Ron Paul sees the truth.

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Anton Keaton, Omaha, NE — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:28:13 GMT

Overturning gives rights to the states, where it should be so the PEOPLE can decide not the federal government which is so overinflated we are going bankrupt. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote against going into another depression.

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JP colorado springs — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:28:30 GMT

Keep your laws off of other peoples bodies.
Damnstraight umm. I know this is a heated topic and easy to react emotionally, please just listen to Ron Paul's position on this issue. The law is unconstitutional and an issue for the states to decide. I know lots of folks would rather not risk over turning and sending the decision back down for the states to decide. They see this as risky to their position as they have noting to gain and everything to loose. I just ask you, for the good of the country spend some time understanding why it is critical to allow the states to decide this issue and not have it decided at the federal level. If you read this far thanks for taking the time. I am pro-life and support Ron Paul's position on this issue.

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Jane Roe — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:29:30 GMT

Time for FredHeads that care about the Border and who are Pro-Life to get behind the M.D. (OB/GYN) 10-term congressman from rural Texas.

Ron will spend that trillion dollars here to save Social Security and defend our borders, not Iraq and Korea's.

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Laurie, NJ — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:34:44 GMT

I am pro-choice, and I am voting for Dr. Paul because I believe the over-turning of Roe vs Wade is immensely important. The federal government should not have their hands in this debate. As long as abortion remains a federal issue, it is critical to realize that there is potential that abortion can become illegal by the federal government. Reversing Roe vs Wade restores power to the states and prevents the federal government from flicking that switch.

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Brett D, OSAN AB, S. Korea — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:34:49 GMT

The momentum is building. The snowball has formed and it isn't going to stop. This is the day when Ron Paul begins to make sense to a lot of people. Let this year be known as the year Americans were awakened by a truly honest and good man. A man in the likes of Martin Luther King, Thomas Jefferson, and Barry Goldwater.

This is a proud day for me. I am in the military and the soldiers are getting more excited about Ron Paul every day. If you want to know what the military thinks - we donated more money to Ron Paul than any other presidential candidate. Let our voice be heard as well.

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j fl — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:35:06 GMT

Ah ...except Mr. Paul has a snowballs chance in hell of winning.....

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J, Austin — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:37:20 GMT

Overturning Roe v. Wade is not "banning" abortion.
Ron Paul wants to return power to the states and let them decide locally.

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Joe Allen, El Paso, TX — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:39:26 GMT

I am pro-choice, but I respect Dr. Paul's courage and consistency in supporting a position he believes in. I will support an honest steadfast conservative over a fair-weather libertarian anyday.

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Steve, Snellville, GA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:41:28 GMT

"Don't want an abortion? don't have one?
Male and don't believe in abortion? Don't have sex. . . . Keep your laws off of other peoples bodies."

I didn't realize abortions were all men's fault?

I agree the way is to not have sex. Realistic? I don't know, but at least be at peace with the consequences.

As for holding this against Ron Paul, he is by far the most freedom endorsing candidate out there -- he just happens to believe the right to life is a necessary prerequisite to the right to liberty.

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Sane in Ut — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:42:38 GMT

He has his good points but, he has not got a prayer of winning a primary, much less a general election. That has been well established by his past primary performances. I also can't bring myself to see him as a commander in chief. He has been to activily undermining the one we have now to expect support from others. I'll pass.

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Tom L — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:47:38 GMT

As Dr. Paul says in his speeches on this issue, 'The more complex the problem, the more local the decision should be.' Abortion, regardless of your feeling about it, is an incredibly complex issue. I think it really is to Dr. Paul's credit that he's able to see this clearly in the face of his personal disgust for the practice.

Ta,

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Syn Holliday, California City, CA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:53:15 GMT

But isn't the unborn still a distinct individual?

Upon conception, there is one continuum of a life. We have different words to identify different stages of the life (embryo, zygote, fetus, newborn, toddler, continuing on through elderly), but it is still one continuum of an individual life, and extinguishing the life at any stage is still the killing of a human life.

A woman's body simply provides the place for the baby to develop, and provides nutrition (which a woman's body can still do even after the baby is born). The unborn is still an individual separate from the mother, no different than eight months into the pregnancy, and no different than after the baby has been born.

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Leeanne, Lynn, MA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:54:37 GMT

Like Ian stated, Ron Paul is a candidate for both pro-life and pro-choice supporters. Personally, I am pro-choice; personally, Ron Paul is pro-life - with that said, we both understand that the federal government should not play a role in a state's ability to regulate their own abortion laws.

If you are not familiar with Ron Paul or his ideas, please take the time to visit www.ronpaul2008.com. I honestly believe that if you knew who Ron Paul was and what he stands for, you'd vote for him too.

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Brian, Green Bay, WI — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:54:44 GMT

Does anyone realize that Dr. Paul is still standing in the race? Fred Thompson has just dropped out, and if Giuliani doesn't win Florida, he's out as well. Meanwhile, McCain and Huckabee are both broke and Huckabee can't compete in states like California, Illinois, New York, etc. Only Ron Paul and Mitt Romney can, and remember, Romney is self-funding his campaign. He is also a flip-flopper and not a true conservative. Ron Paul is now the obvious choice for conservatives to rally around; not only will he retain the GOP base, he will bring in independents and prevent libertarians from going 3rd party. He will also neutralize the Dems on the war. This country needs drastic change and Ron Paul is the only answer.

Even if Paul doesn't win, he's outlasted more well-known opponents. I think a lot of people in the MSM are going to be eating tons of crow after this.

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Blake, Atlanta, GA — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:56:27 GMT

Continued excellent news for Congressman Paul's campaign. Dr. Ron Paul has a distinguished career as an OB-GYN, delivering over 4000 babies. RP2008.

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Jim Randolph WI — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:56:39 GMT

Ron I am sending you a campaign contribution today. Please continue to spread the truth about this country.

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Baba Padmanabhan, Chicago, IL — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 22:57:13 GMT

Let the States decide - what good is it to have Feds mandate anything.

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Hello America — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:01:01 GMT

This is quite a news worthy headline. Lets hope the media picks it up and gives it the fair coverage it deserves. Many people would be interested to know that the key individual, in the key case, which changed the laws on the most controversial of subjects, has recanted her story and indicated it was an attorney sham!

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Eric — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:14:51 GMT

Are you all blind? Have you not read the racist rants this guy has posted in the past? It seems to me that we should vote for someone who is not going to be a devise figures for any and all minorities in this country.

Why is it that only in America, that we still have to deal with our racist past? and idiots like this guy is wildly supported.

Even in South Afrika, they are more offend by racism than we, and there history of Aparthied is so much more closer to our own.

People supporting this candidate should take a real hard look at themselves and ask if they are just supporting another hate monger or someone who really support TRUE conservative and Christian Values!

Jesus, Never ONCE expoused hatred of anthother man, person, or being becuase of his or her race or creed.

Maybe its becuase GOD created us ALL!

Think about hate-mongers!

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Madeline Attorney, NYC — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:42:53 GMT

What interests me is, of all current candidates, this fragile alliance between pro-life and pro-choice is only possible under Dr. Paul. It speaks to his credit, and an ability to unite our nation.

In my line of work, I've noticed any law or system set up in opposition to freedom of choice, is unenforceable. By way of example, I would submit drug and alcohol prohibitions, or various sodomy laws promulgated at times throughout our nation's history. Realistically, in an era of travel, internet access and FedEx, freedom of reproductive choice will flourish, irrespective of legality.

I am pro-choice and pro-Paul.

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Eric Poirier — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:45:16 GMT

I don't understand how anyone could not vote for him. He's so incredibly brilliant that he would change the country for the better like no one else is capable of. Wake up people!

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Mary, Decatur, GA — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:00:33 GMT

I will NEVER vote for a candidate that resolves to take away freedom to choose from one segment of the population. Choice = freedom. Doesn't our constitution guarantee freedom for all citizens? A fertilized egg is not viable without scientific intervention outside the womb - the women of this country deserve better than an attempt to be controlled by the religious right and other fanatical extremists.

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greg — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:38:02 GMT

I wonder why the posters with the 'race' agenda are anti Ron Paul.. Can anyone explain this? I thought common sense was color blind!!!! Ron Paul is the only person we would want in office. The rest are pure idiots with no clear cut solutions to the problems that plague this nation.. I have to ask Are Americans stupid?? The polls on TV sure show it.. I hope I'm wrong, I really do.. If this is true and the country votes an idiot into office I'm moving to Canada!! RP is the only candidate that makes any sense on the issues Period!! The rest copy him if anyone has noticed. The buzzword 'change' what a bunch of jerks the rest of the candidates are, this is just a game to them.. wake up people!!!

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Nick Michelewicz, Keene, NH — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:43:48 GMT

Actually he has placed first in polling in Alaska, and he took second place in Nevada. Granted it was a distant second, but he still beat everyone but Romney. I expect he'll have more finishes in the top 3.
I'm a pro-choicer, but I also believe in constitutional government. The federal government has no just authority to dictate abortion policy to the states.

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David Malbuff, Strasburg, Virginia — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:50:53 GMT

"Allowing states to "decide" would be unconstitutional to those who live in those states."

No, it wouldn't. Please read the Constitution before
you try to determine what's unconstitutional.

"Article I, sec. 8, para. 5: {The Congress shall have Power To] coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures" "

Except Congress isn't coining or issuing money. US Notes haven't been issued since the early 1960s.

The Federal Reserve, a private bank, lends money to the government at interest. That's the "problem, folks."

David Malbuff

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Warren — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:01:32 GMT

"All you libertarians think that the woman should be "free" to abort her baby. The baby is a person, too!"

Not even close to truth.

Libertarians are as split on this as any other group of Americans. Some believe it is the woman's right to excercise total control over her body, some believe that abortion violates one of the main tenants of libertarianism and removes the baby's right to its own life.

The only real question is at what point it becomes a life. Once it does, it has a full right to life just as everyone else.

Personally, I cannot pinpoint the exact moment that the unborn becomes a life worthy of preservation, so I choose to be pro-life. If I am to err, I would rather it be in support of protecting lives than taking them.

As for Dr. Paul, he is the only one who has always been against the war, against increases in government and their powers, destructive actions of the Fed, devaluation of our money. He wants to reduce the federal government back to a level that approaches what they are actually permitted to do in the Constitution.

The odd thing isnt that he is a radical, its that a desire to adhere to our Constitution, principles, and rights is considered a "fringe" position. No one is perfect, but I will gladly vote for Ron Paul.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

mj — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:12:35 GMT

Paul is right. We never needed an issue like abortion to occupy such a devisive and diversionary central position in national politics. Abortion is a serious, local issue and an example of why we have the 10th amendment. People must choose in their own communities how the community will deal with such issues. This is the freedom and the system that we are given in the constitution. These issues should not be decided by some unreachable entity far from the lives and location of people.

People mistakenly believed the American Revolution would fail. The "shot that was heard around the world" was fired by a small group and fought for freedom agains the most powerful empire on earth. It is simply unamerican to be overly concerned about the odds of winning. Too much concern for winning may lead to compromise which is alright until you wake up oneday and all values (including freedom) have been compromised away. Rather we should keep our eyes and mind set on what is right. In this way we may believe and act accordingly. I am a veteran and have always voted. I never have believed a candidate would hold the American ideal in high regard but then I heard Ron Paul. If you support Paul you are not alone please help to get the message out. If you want to know more about Dr. Ron Paul please visit:

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

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MH Omaha, NE — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:17:03 GMT

For those of you who want the states to decide on abortion. Look at the way the fundies have taken over state governments and forced their creationist drivel into the school curriculum.

And you want to give these clods a say on whether women should be forced to be bred against their will??

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MH Omaha, NE — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:18:57 GMT

Frankenstein

Mengele

Paul

Just because they're doctors doesn't mean they have humanity's best interests at heart.

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I support Paul, NC — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:38:48 GMT

Angry Vet, The "good constitutional argument" you asked for was in your very post. I'm not sure why you can't see it, but I will explain it to you. Article I, sec. 8, para. 5: {The Congress shall have Power To] coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures" The article you pointed out reads "The Congress shall have Power To". The Federal reserve is not a part of the U.S. government, nor Congress, nor is regulated by congress. Because the FED isn't controlled by congress it makes it unconstitutional. The FED prints money at their leisure without any real value behind the currency. The value of the dollar is decided by the success of the stock market and how much money is printed. Just read the articles written by Ron Paul himself on the FED and how it is unconstitutional. See if it makes any since to you.... http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/topic.php?id=9

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Craig, Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:44:24 GMT

Damnstraight,Ill:

Learn the issue instead of talking in platitudes. Ron Paul does not faavor a federal law banning abortion. He opposes a federal law legalizing abortion. There is a big difference. And as for keeping your hands off of other people's bodies, that's good advice that could extend to unborn children as well, no?

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 14:47:53 GMT

Roe v Wade will continue to stand, it will never be overturned. Sorry whackos.. you need to find another way to reduce abortions. There are several.. use your heads.

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John D'oh, Seattle, Wash. — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:12:36 GMT

Someone sed:
"Even if irresponsible fathers abandon their children at birth, there is ALWAYS adoption as an alternative if the mother can't take care of her child."

Hopefully Ron Paul will address the unconscionable practice by government's of effectively selling children and Once again) allow the free market and a free people to decide who can and cannot adopt. How many kids grow up unwanted and unloved for lack of a parent (or two) because the state decides said parents are unworthy for not having a spare $10,000+ ?

Go Ron, Go!

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Mike, NYC — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:35:55 GMT

I support Paul, but I steadfastly support a woman's right to chose.

If he's interested in civil liberties, then women's reproductive choice is a liberty.

After all, what should be the punishment for a woman who gets an illegal abortion?

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Dillon , Daytona Beach, fl — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:47:39 GMT

I think a big piece of what people are ignoring here is that fact that this world is extremely overcrowded. We have doubled in population over the last 40 years, and the population rate is increasing dramatically. Take the time to think about what that means. We are heading toward complete cultural collapse, and damn soon. I mean our generation or the next. I don't think abortion is ever a happy solution. I think it is a tragic reminder of the state of affairs we find ourselves in. It's really a non issue, in the grand scheme of things. Will we still be arguing this dead end debate when the final straw collapses our fragile culture made of cards?

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Matt, Dallas, TX — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:02:59 GMT

Dr. Paul supports overturning Roe V Wade not because he is pro-life (he is) but because it's a poor legal decision. This should be a state issue, not a federal one, and THAT'S Paul's position.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

James, Albuquerque — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:03:43 GMT

Another non-religious pro-choice independent voter for Ron Paul here. Ron Paul's actions speak louder than his religion, and I admire him for that. And someone that has delivered 4,000 children in to this world is entitled to his views on abortion. I'm still voting for him.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Tom deSabla Brookeville Maryland — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:22:21 GMT

It's good news that McCorvey has endorsed Ron Paul, and it may clarify things a bit for pro-life republicans. After everything that has happened in her life, very few people understand the issue - and Roe itself - better than Norma McCorvey, and if she says Paul is the most pro-life candidate, then he probably is.

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Now, as to the issue of abortion itself, there is one issue that always seems to get clouded up, and that is that Paul's libertarian position against abortion does not mean taking control of a woman's body. Libertarian's support your ownership over your own life and your own body. If you want to cut off your arm, or even end your life, that is up to you, though Paul would certainly use strong persuasion to stop you from doing so. The zygote/fetus/baby is another matter entirely - in the final analysis, it is not your body, but is instead another discrete human life in the making. Leave rape and incest out of this please, they are red herrings that only serve to cloud the issue. Even in a world without Roe, very, very few (probably none) states are going to actually prosecute a woman for aborting such a child.

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Now, as to Angry Vet's misunderstanding of "floating" currency and why it is unconstitutional... He says

"I have not heard, yet, a good constitutional argument by Ron Paul supporters that the "floating currency" is unconstitutional. Speaking of which:
Article I, sec. 8, para. 5: {The Congress shall have Power To] coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures"

So, what's the problem folks? "

Here is the problem, Angry Vet, by "floating currency" you must mean "currency not exchangeable or redeemable for anything, able to be created out of nothing" right? And you say that Article I, sec. 8, para. 5 permits this. Well, allow me to direct your attention to paragraph two of the same section 8 - it empowers Congress to "borrow money on the Credit of the United States."

Does everyone see the inconsistency here? If it was intended by the Constitution that money could be created out of thin air and allowed to "float" or whatever euphemistic term one wishes to use...

THEY WOULDN'T HAVE NEEDED THE POWER TO BORROW MONEY, NOW WOULD THEY? WHY GIVE THE POWER TO BORROW WHEN YOU ALREADY GAVE THE POWER TO CREATE OUT OF THIN AIR?

No, the answer is that the Founders meant hard money which, when you needed more than you had, you would have to borrow it. In other words, the real world as it truly is, not a make-believe fiat money world where everybody in the world exchanges real goods for worthless paper forever.

It's not going to happen, people. We need to wake up, smell the coffee, and elect someone who gets it - Ron Paul.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

mavericklady, western massachusetts — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:26:45 GMT

It appears we have a multitude of socialists in this forum. The government should solve ALL your problems and tell you what to do and pay to do it. Right? Grow up - only people who believe in their own PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY for their actions will vote for Ron Paul. Now - does that tell you a whole lot about the people who are bad mouthing Ron Paul????? Enough said.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

True Conservative, West Palm Beach, FL — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:41:52 GMT

Ron Paul will win the nomination:

Fred T - dropped out
Duncan H - dropped out
Rudy G - almost broke and will soon drop out
Mike H - almost broke and will soon drop out
John M - George Bush 3
Mitt R - George Bush 3

the choice is amazing clear for those who are not sheep and are willing to think for themselves.

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ryan from philly — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:46:54 GMT

Currently, we FUND abortion. We should not ban or fund abortion, just leave it to the states.

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Gary Brooke, Gardena, CA — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:50:57 GMT

Ron Paul, as a doctor who has delivered 4000 babies, is pro-life because he recognizes the obvious -- that life begins at conception. He also realizes that the national debt is a creation of the international banking cartel behind the Federal Reserve, and there is no reason why the government cannot print our own money and eliminate the Fed (as JFK tried to do), greatly reduce taxes and get rid of the IRS. Attempting to do so, however, would no doubt make him a very poor insurance risk.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Jeff Hise, Windsor, Ohio — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:06:26 GMT

Abortion has long been a method of killing Americans
without having to fire a shot while making women feel
"empowered". Ron Paul has the correct plan for dealing with the scheme of abortion in America. Very few politicians have an understanding or respect for
the constitution like Ron Paul. He is America's final
hope in my opinion.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Bruno, Temecula, California — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:07:45 GMT

I wonder if this will actually be mentioned on MSNBC Television, because that would be going against the TV Media Blackout of Ron Paul.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

John Stark — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:25:24 GMT

The fact is that if Roe vs. Wade is overturned today we would have to take no less than 760 cases back to trial and essentially re-write the Judicial system in the US. This issue is used to divide us (Americans) or to join us together. Either way it is a useless debate, the supreme court has decided the case, its over. Choice won, but that does not mean that life lost, take the issue back into your personal privacy. I commend Ron Paul for at least being consistent over 30 years and one of the few men who has earned a right to discuss the issue after delivering 4,000 babies. However the issue is not worth debating and Roe vs. Wade will never be overturned so lets get back to some real issues.

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John Stark — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 17:32:08 GMT

Angry Vet

Thank you for for your citation Article I, sec. 8, para. 5: {The Congress shall have Power To] coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures"

The last time Congress printed money was in 1913 which was th last time the US gov. had control over the currency. In 1913 we adopted a privately owned and operated central bank, known as the Federal Reserve, which is not a part of the US gov. and is not owned by the US citizens. The last attempt to have congress print money was under Kennedy and 10 bil notes were printed but never circulated. Also keep in mind that the secret service has two jobs, protect the currency and the President.

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Helen, Seattle, Washington — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:05:35 GMT

Ron Paul and Mitt Romney are on the same page for this issue. They are both personally pro-life, but both advocate making abortion a state matter.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

John dieter, Houston TX — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:06:21 GMT

Ron Paul's position on Abortion, while he is personally against it, he says it isn't in the Constitution, and there should be NO Federal rules or regulations or court rulings about it. He would return the issue of Abortion to the states where it belongs (along with Murder, which isn't a Federal Crime) Pro-Aborts like this position as at least one State will probably have legal abortion, and anti-Aborts love it because their State may rule abortion illegal.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

John dieter, Houston TX — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:08:49 GMT

Ron Paul, NO chance? He came in Second in Nevada, has more money (from individuals! not one penny from lobbyists or Corporations!) has WORLD RECORD amounts from the PEOPLE! not Government hacks.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Elle, New York, New York — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:18:05 GMT

You may believe that Ron Paul doesn't have a chance of winning, but whatever happened to the will of the people? Miracles do happen. I feel sorry for those of you who are so cynical, you take an attitude like that.

Ron Paul has a message of truth to spread to the propagandized, brainwashed Americans who educate themselves and form opinions from the old media's "news". The internet has been the first form of communication outside that old media perimeter that allow the masses to learn what's really going on.

In Europe, they feel sorry for us. They know we're in a type of prison here. They know more about what's going on here than we do.

That said, I'm a pro-choice person who's voting for Ron Paul. God bless him!

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Come on, Mo — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:40:33 GMT

What is going on on this topic? Roe v Wade will never be overturned, just like he will not get the nomination, but thank you for not voting for McCain!

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

John Pennington — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 18:47:09 GMT

Hey, enough about the MSM. For those whove come befor us, I applaud you; for the rest of us,lets all cancel our cable and sattlelites and give the reason(s) for that-not too big a jump is it? What are you getting anyway? They are shaking in their loafers..

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Maggie, Washington DC — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:34:03 GMT

doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning...

Keep selling that lie. You and the mainstream media.
They won't let Ron Paul speak on tv or even mention his name! Why? I reject it from them and I reject it from you.

Ron Paul's support will only continue to grow. He is the only one telling the truth about the economy and the Federal Reserve, including the so-called reporters.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Zoeth — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:37:44 GMT

This board makes it quite apparent why the pro choice candidates must stand strong for women. I always find it disgusting when those who had the choice to do what they wanted in their life then try to take that choice away from other. As if their experience is the ONE that EVERYONE will have. What ridiculous thinking!!

Pro choice candidates will win as it is the majority view. Choice is the issue and will prevail in spite of the anti choice minority.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Collin in Lake Mary, FL — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:29:17 GMT

"Pro choice" arguments are an excuse for promiscuity and sexual immorality. Abortion is baby murder no matter what you call it. Pre-born babies have the same rights as everyone and Ron Paul expresses this best. I will be voting for him.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

E. SAUER, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 20:51:25 GMT

RON PAUL, THE ONLY AMERICAN RUNNING FOR THE OFFICE.

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Rob, Cincinnati OH — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:07:09 GMT

"Well, at the end of the day, I have not heard, yet, a good constitutional argument by Ron Paul supporters that the "floating currency" is unconstitutional. Speaking of which:

Article I, sec. 8, para. 5: {The Congress shall have Power To] coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures"

So, what's the problem folks?"

Easy.... Please note the part that says "The Congress shall have Power To". Hmmmm, doesn't mention anything about Congress delegating that power to a Central Bank.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

john doe, Boulder, CO — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 06:58:08 GMT

Since protecting life is so important to all you conservatives, I suppose you'll be supporting end of the death penalty. After all, "the issue of life is paramount."

Hypocrites

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Andrea, Seattle, Washington — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:40:49 GMT

John Doe,

Actually, the death penalty IS about preserving lives. Murderers often kill again, even in prison.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

Cassandra — Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:33:54 GMT

Andrea - spinning like a top!

Far be it from me to understand the conservative mind. Thankfully it's alien to me.

'Jane Roe' endorses Paul

TK, Provo, UT — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:04:59 GMT

To Angry Vet, Minn.

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TK, UT constitutionalist — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:17:22 GMT

To Angry Vet Minn.
The problem is the government is not even abiding by the section of the constitution that you have cited. CONGRESS has the authority to establish and regulate currency, the Federal Reserve is not congress, the Federal Reserve is not in the constitution. The Federal Reserve is no more a part of the government than Federal Express. It is a conglomorate owned by the largest banks. It is a corporation that Congress delegated its authority for coining money to. An unconstitutional delegation that no court in the land will listen to an argument about because if the courts even acknowledged the argument, the whole existing Fascist arrangments would be over and done.

(YES, the government is so much a partner of the corporations and visa versa that it resembles fascism more than capitalism if you truly look at the definitions of both. Every time a major U.S. corporation is in trouble - GM, the airline industry, and now the banks with the mortgage fallout - the government comes in to bail them out and dole out favors. True capitalism would let them go to pot and the corrupt managers who squandered the resources for personal fortunes would be jailed not gifted, and more efficient managers and companies would replace them.)

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TK, UT constitutionalist — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:36:36 GMT

Some on the thread need to understand the meaning of constutional vs. unconstitutional. When was the last time you read the Constitution? Just to give an introduction. The constitution stipulates what authority the federal government has in creating laws and regulating the affairs of this country.

Due to the 1st clause of the 1st amendment that stipulates: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..."

Public schools are a public entity and therefore are not allowed to teach religious doctrine, aka intelligent design. Roe vs. Wade was decided based on a "right to privacy" interpreted from the 4th amendment.

When you look at the first clause of the first amendment, using your common sense it is easy to explain why what is taught in a public classroom, paid for by government taxes, cannot be religious in nature.

The same cannot be said for how the 4th amendment secures someones "right" to have an abortion. The abortion matter is outside of what laws the federal government should decide according to the constitution. The 9th and 10th amendments sum up why I support Ron Paul and why abortion issues should not be decided by the federal government.

Amendment Nine

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment Ten

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

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Liz New York — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 19:46:46 GMT

my comments earlier were not posted. they never seem to get posted. too bad. there was no foul language nor attacking as I see in some of these responses. the comments pertained to the subject matter. again...too bad they don't get posted. i have some good things to say

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David Blake Dover Delaware — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:19:42 GMT

I feel that Dr Ron Paul has as good of a chance of winning as a Mormon or a baptist preacher or a Cross dressing liberal.Why not let a honest caring married man who has been faithful for 51 years run the white house.He has my vote and my rebate check of 1800.00 when I get it.Please send me the money as soon as possible Uncle Sam so I can forward it to Dr Ron Paul's campaign..

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David Blake Dover Delaware — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 03:20:07 GMT

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Mary Helen, Columbus, Ohio — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:12:40 GMT

Whether the issue is abortion or slavery, letting each state decide to legalize/criminalize either one is wrong, as both abortion and slavery allow the powerful to devalue the powerless. Both abortion and slavery dehumanize an entire segment of the population. The dehumanizers are the powerful, the dehumanized are powerless. Until all human lives are protected, no human life is protected.
This is why the right to life is paramount. Without it, no rights can be exercised. And the required standard for legal protection is elegantly simple - if you're human (possessed of human DNA, regardless of existing flaws), you're protected, irrespective of your age, gender, place of residence (womb, nursing home, etc.), level (or lack) of productivity, physical or mental capacity.

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Tanner Campbell, Lake Worth, Florida — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:49:28 GMT

This is an excerpt from a response I gave to a comment left on the issue of Abortion. I am Pro-choice, and if you could swallow your egos and realize God (at least in the sense that man has created him) is about as real as the Easter Bunny, you would be to.
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When you really scrutinize the fundamentals of the argument you'll realize (if you have an open enough mind) that the cause for the entire controversy is humanity's conceded, arrogant and self-centered opinion of itself. We are, for all intents and purposes, minuscule in the grand scheme of things -- we are a multi-celled organism floating in an abyssal plane of a universe of multi-celled organisms, we are of no real importance at all.

Since we don't realize our insignificance we take issues of morality quite seriously. Religion is a huge (if not the ONLY) contributor to this state of mind. Most of the people who have an issue with abortion have the issue because "abortion is a slight against God", "We're messing with God's miracle", "what gives us the right to interfere with God's plan or design for our life?". How can people believe that "God", the creator of the Earth and the heavens nigh the whole universe is solely concerned with us? Our morality, our thoughts, our existence ... what makes us think that the creator of all the universe gives one iota about us? Humans charge themselves with governing the morals of others and a society has told us what's wrong and what's right -- but in the long run does it matter?

We are, as you have said, animals. We evolved with the ability to reason, create and judge ... unfortunately that ability has come at some great cost to our personalities, as human beings may well be the most egotistical things in the entire universe. Those given abilities, it's pure luck we developed them ... in fact it's pure luck that the cell that gave rise to the human species survived at all. If you need proof of that: read Stephen Jay Gould's "Wonderful Life", a beautiful and in depth look at the Burgess Shale. Read and learn about the father of humanity, Pikaia gracilens and see how happenstance our existence really is.

Cells undergo apoptosis when it is apparent that something is wrong with them so as not to replicate deformed cells -- humanity has the right, the cellular duty, to destroy that which will not likely survive. Thinking that we are any more important or relevant to the big picture than the very cells that make up our bodies or the cockroaches that invest our restaurants is futile and vane. Every living thing is just as important as every other living thing -- in short: Get over yourself humanity, you're not that great