First thoughts: Ted Kennedy is all in

jaycee, Ventura, California — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:31:21 GMT

What issues do you supporters of Hillary think she can win on in November? The economy and budget deficits? The Repubs will just trot out a string of experts who will explain how the 90's boom was really just part of the bubble and burst cycle of recent decades and the 2000-01 downturn was actually part of the Clinton legacy. Budget deficits are really a healthy thing for the economy, or else they don't matter much. blah, blah, tax cuts, guns and butter, tax cuts. There's a fair amount of truth mixed in there with the BS, which will make it all the more marketable. Issue neutralized and it's right back to talking about Bimbogate, Whitewater, Travelgate, Vince Foster, etc. etc. etc

How about the fiasco in Iraq? The Repubs can simply point out that Hillary was for it before she was against it and it's just a fairy tale to think that there is any significant difference between Hillary and their candidate, except that she wants to cut and run now that the polling has turned negative. In stark contrast to the ridiculous charges leveled against Barack by Hatchet Bill, in this case it will actually be true! Issue neutralized and it's back to talking about the stained dress, Pardongate, the secret library archives and all the wonderful gossipy stories they may or may not contain, etc. etc. etc.

All her experience with the failed health care effort will be used against her and ridiculed as HillaryCare. Do you get an idea of how this campaign plays out? We lose again, that's how it plays out. Look, I won't give a candidate my support in a primary without carefully considering qualifications and electability. I have taken a hard, critical look at Barack Obama and my conclusion is that he would make an outstanding president. The guy is just consistently ahead of the curve and his judgment and instincts are head and shoulders above anyone in the race on either side. If we’re smart enough to avoid the race/gender/generational trap that the Clintons are leading us into and get behind him, he will give the die-hard Repubs fits trying to run against him in the fall. I sympathize with all my sisters who so badly want to cast a vote for a woman for the highest office in the country. I would welcome the chance to vote for a woman, but not this one. For once, let's try not to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Think before you vote!

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:42:39 GMT

He and former President Bill Clinton had a heated telephone exchange earlier this month over what Mr. Kennedy considered misleading statements by Mr. Clinton about Mr. Obama,

Oh I can imagine so.....
When you put a hot tempered irish boozehound like Ted and a hot blooded sex addict like Bill Clinton, the sparks are going to fly....

Bill just better realize he has to stay out of his wife's campaign now and forever. Headlines like in the Boston Globe about Bill being a hatchet man can do no good for the Clinton's.

After the butt kicking they took at the hands of Obama, it's time for a new slogan from Hillary....

"It's the issues, not the tissues"

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Frank Furter — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:45:31 GMT

Rumors......Al Gore to support Obama!!!! Will the Clinton Thug Machine say Al was the worst Vice President we have had in History

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Lynette, NYC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:46:30 GMT

If Obama gets the nod to be the democratic candidate for president, then expect John McCain to be voted the next president of the United States. I must be missing something because I do not understand what the appeal is with Obama. I also dont base my vote on who has the "best" endorsements.Who cares about Ted kennedy. He has too many skeletons in his closet (literally) or he would be running against Obama.

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Sarah Fountain — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:52:58 GMT

Joe Scarborough and MSNBC are trying to deminish the Rezko arrest and his relationship with Obama trying to connect rezko with the Clinton's in a photo op..The facts are The Clinton's had a PHOTO OP with Rezko. Obama has had a 17 year friendship with Rezko that includes a questionable land deal, donations, and Obama being identified as the "unidentified political candidate" in Rezkos indictment. This is BIG NEWS and MSNBC IS TRYING TO DOWNPLAY THE SIGNIFICANCE in its continued focus of pumping up Obama as with them pumping up the Kennedy endorsement. Did they pump up Robert Kennedy Jr. endorsement of Hillary?
1/27/2008
Statement from Kathleen Kennedy Townsend
"I respect Caroline and Teddy's decision but I have made a different choice. While I admire Senator Obama greatly, I have known Hillary Clinton for over 25 years and have seen first hand how she gets results. As a woman, leader, and person of deep convictions, I believe Hillary Clinton would make the best possible choice for president. She shares so many of the concerns of my father. Hillary has spent a lifetime speaking out on behalf of the powerless and working to alleviate poverty, in our country and around the world. I have seen her work up close and know she will be a great President. At this moment when so much is at stake at home and overseas, I urge our fellow Americans to support Hillary Clinton. That is why my brother Bobby, my sister Kerry, and I are supporting Hillary Clinton."

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Ron, TX — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:53:30 GMT

I can't believe the Clinton campaign is getting away with making Florida into a big deal. When is someone in the media going to toughen up and say outright that it's unfair, that if someone without large name recognition (Obama versus CLINTON) doesn't campaign in a state, then of course the majority of votes will go to the person with the best name recognition?

The fact of the matter is, that the Clintons are trying to cheat the process, that they AGREED not to campaign in Florida, and now, only after they realize they were going to lose SC by a huge margin, are they acting like they care one ounce about Florida. Hillary has been holding "fundraisers" in the state several times a month ever since she "agreed" that Florida shouldn't count for anything.

If Clinton wants to be such a vocal support of Florida's rights, why didn't she come out in support of Florida back when it MATTERED? Sounds eerily familar to a certain war vote she's now against, and a bankruptcy bill she voted for, but didn't want to pass. Politics of the moment has GOT to stop.

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Melvin Hemming, Mobile, AL — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:55:48 GMT

It seems that Ted Kennedy and others on the extreme left of the Party are backing Obama which makes me wonder just what does backing Obama mean. I just don't see how someone saying they are going to bring everyone together can actually do that if he has the Move.on wing of the Party as his base. I think everyone is getting caught up in carefully crafted speeches and don't actually see what's going to be hitting them on the back of the head from those hiding behind the mask of Obama's smile and oratory skills. I want to hear more specifics and fewer slogans.

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Dianna, Owasso, OK — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:56:23 GMT

I hope Ted Kennedy’s support spurns on more endorsements for Senator Obama. I am inspired by him his speeches, they have brought me to tears. I have objectively looked at his record he is not perfect but in more cases than not he has supported the items I think are important to America. I truly believe Republicans will work with him in a New York Second with Hillary it would be a return to the old battles if they do not manage to take her out in the general election. She has lost my vote once and for all no matter what I will either abstain from voting or vote for the republican and I am a life long proud Democrat. She gives us a bad name and plays a brand of politics that leaves you feeling dirty and angry rather than hopeful. Way to go Ted and keep them coming. And for the record not that it should matter but I am an educated, white female over the age of 35 so the Clinton camp should not for a moment think they have my demographic sown up.

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Charles, Silver Spring, MD — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:56:29 GMT

http://knowbeforeyouvote.com/

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Lynn,SC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:56:58 GMT

So, Hillary and Obama, both Democratic Senators, have chosen to actually do their job tonight and be present for the State Of The Union Adress. Imagine that! They are actually where they are supposed to be for a change!!

But, where oh where is SENATOR John McCain? Oh, yeah--putting his own self interests first--remaining in FLORIDA to campaign INSTEAD of doing the job he is being paid for at the moment!! I guess we can all see where his priorities are...

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Rodney, Lakeland Florida — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:58:39 GMT

I wish MSBC were more objective particularly Joe Scarborough. He critizes Hillary and Bill too much questioning every move they make. But more than that the Kennedy's are split with their support. Some are not going with Teddy and Caroline. Talk about Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, Robert Kennedy Jr. and Kerry have gone to the Clinton's side. Also there are many more Kennedy's who have not said who they are with. The Clintons did what they had to do in South Carolina its nothing personal against Obama but they are in this to win.

Thanks
Rodney

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Maria, Miami — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:00:52 GMT

Lynette,
You are missing something. And missing something huge. Obama is the best chance the Dems have to take back the White House. He can bring Independents across who would NEVER vote for Hillary and Bill. Why? Has nothing to do with her being a woman. Many Independents think it's time we had a woman President. Here's what it has to do with. You may not like it but people who aren't die-hard Clinton supporters don't like to be lied to and see through their spin.

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StopwatchingMSNBC, Rochester, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:00:54 GMT

Call me crazy, but when Hillary gets the former DNC chairman and current Gov. of PA endorsment and the California Farm workers Union enedorsment(Huge Hispanic endorsment in a huge Super Tuesday state), she got one line, but everytime Obama gets an endorsment, it's front page headlines. The bias of MSNBC never ends. Congrats to Obama for a great win in SC. I also congratulate MSNBC and the other media outlets for for framing the Clintons as Racist and turning the country against them using race rhetoric. It was shameless. It's too bad because I think Obama could have and would have one without the media bringing race into the discussion on every TV/Radio show over the past week. At one point MSNBC was trying to say Hillary was getting the white vote and Obama was geting the black vote because of race issues, when in fact, Edwards got the majority of the white vote and I think his strong debate performance took votes away from Hillary and race had nothing to do with it. I also think Bill Clinton needs to stay out of this race until a nominee is chosen. The media hangs on every word he says and no matter what he says, they will spin it negative. Again, congratulations Obama and lets move on to Super Tuesday.

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Lewis, Cincinnati, Ohio — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:03:00 GMT

Lynette--something tells me you would be singing an entirely different tune if Ted Kennedy had endorsed Senator Clinton. Also, I think you mean if Hillary Clinton gets the democratic nomination--John McCain will be the next POTUS. I think you got your candidates mixed up!

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Dianna, Owasso, Ok — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:03:21 GMT

I hope Al Gore supports Obama let them come out in droves. We are after all America, a democracy can we end the dynasties already. Bush Clinton Bush and now another Clinton? Isn't 20 years enough without a fresh perspective?

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Bee, NH — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:03:35 GMT

Shall we say Hillary Clinton is toast? How can someone choose past over future, despair over hope? The whole thing is crystal clear and was well laid out by Caroline Kennedy in her Op-Ed piece.

Obama is the bridge to the future while Clinton is the bridge to the ‘90s.

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Dante — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:03:57 GMT

Lynette, NYC (Sent Monday, January 28, 2008 9:46 AM)

Yes, Lynette, I agree with you, you must be missing something. Obama understands people, that is what suits him to be the best president. He understands issues because he actually understands how they AFFECT people. You may not agree with everything that he says, that is expected but you have to agree that he says it with passion and clarity and earnestly. I appreciate that and look forward to him winning the nomination.

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Paul — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:04:23 GMT

Could Ted Kennedy have other motives for endorsing Obama? If Hillary wins the primary and the general, the Kennedy political dynasty and Camelot plays second to the Clinton Dynasty.

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Steve — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:04:59 GMT

When reading the posts of my fellow Americans, I vacillate between laughing and being very concerned…
Yesterday, “KG” wrote: “Does it suprise anyone the results in SC. SC ranks 51st in the quaility of education. what would expect.

KG, first, I think you meant to include the word “you” in your last sentence. That aside (won't hold that against you--we all make typos), you must fall into the same bucket you’re trying to throw the entire state of SC into. Just for your edification, if what you say is true, Senator Clinton should have won by the same landslide by which she lost. Other than white women over the age of 50, the only demographic she had won UNTIL last night was non-college educated voters. Again, for your benefit, the demographic breakdown for South Carolina is included below. In Greenville County, SC, which has higher average income and a more educated populace than the statewide average and which is 78 percent white, Obama won by a resounding 22 percentage points.As in New Hampshire and Iowa, exit polls indicated that Obama performed very well among those with post-graduate education and those with incomes over $200,000. But unlike New Hampshire, Obama also outperformed Clinton among those earning less than $50,000 a year. According to exit poll interviews Clinton’s only strong demographic groups were white women, among whom she won 44 percent to Obama’s 22 percent, and voters aged 65 and older, among whom she got 40 percent to his 32 percent.

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:05:20 GMT

'...Clinton campaign orchestrates intense campaign to
derail Kennedy's stunning endorsement, planned for
tomorrow...'

NEENER, NEENER, NEENER...

SUCK ON THAT, BILLARY !

'...The announcement stunned Senate colleagues, who
had expected Kennedy to remain neutral until the
increasingly vitriolic nominating contest with Sen.
Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) settled out....'

THANK YOU, Teddy
Most endorsements don't mean much...
But, this one does...
espeically after tge despicable 'race baiting'
Our 'Liberal LION' !
The Liberal who Opppsed the Bush/Clinton Iraq War

From the Politico:

'....Ted Kennedy embraces Obama

By: Mike Allen and Carrie Budoff Brown
Jan 27, 2008 03:06 PM EST

Rejecting a personal entreaty from President Bill
Clinton, Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) plans to
endorse Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) for president in a
joint appearance on Monday, Democratic sources said.

The embrace provides a dramatic rocket for Obama to
ride into the frantic, nationwide campaigning ahead of
the spate of Super Tuesday primaries on Feb. 5, the
biggest day for nominating contests in U.S. history.
Caroline Kennedy, the senator's niece and the daughter
of President John F. Kennedy, will also appear at the
rally, the sources said.

Democrats said the endorsement will help Obama with
traditional Democratic groups where Clinton has been
strong — union households, Hispanics and downscale
workers.

Also, the nod by the most experienced member of the
Senate adds significant standing to Obama, who is
working to prove he has the experience necessary to be
president.

The announcement stunned Senate colleagues, who had
expected Kennedy to remain neutral until the
increasingly vitriolic nominating contest with Sen.
Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.) settled out.

“This is the biggest Democratic endorsement Obama
could possibly get short of Bill Clinton,” said a
high-level Democrat.

The Clinton campaign launched a last-ditch effort over
the last few days to stop Kennedy's move,
orchestrating a flood of phone calls to Kennedy from
sources ranging from union chiefs to his Massachusetts
constituents.

During his two terms in the White House, President
Clinton made repeated overtures to the Kennedy family.
So the senator’s rejection of his wife is at least as
embarrassing as her 28-point loss in the South
Carolina primary on Saturday.

Kennedy is set to appear with Obama at the “Stand for
Change” rally the campaign is holding at American
University in Washington, D.C., at lunchtime on
Monday, the sources said.

For months, former aides to President John F. Kennedy
and Sen. Robert F. Kennedy showered praise on Obama,
describing him as the heir to the Kennedy mantle.

But when Politico reviewed the Kennedy family’s
endorsements and campaign contributions in December,
reporters found a house divided.

A tangle of longstanding political ties, friendships
and gut feelings caused the Kennedys and those closely
identified with them to scatter across the primary
field.

Old hands to President Kennedy and Sen. Robert F.
Kennedy came out for Obama, in part because he
reminded them of the charismatic brothers. One of the
former advisers, Harris Wofford, said Obama “touches
my soul.”

“For me, no one has done that since John, Robert
Kennedy and Martin Luther King,” Wofford said in
December. “I waited a long time to have that feeling.”

Maybe Billary think 'race baiting' will be overlooked
by the Democratic party

Maybe Hillary will start talking like 'Aunt Jemima'..
That'll make things OK, won't it ?
Race Bait A go go ?
Then, have Bill 'feel your pain' ?

DO ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED ?
SAY ANYTHING TO GET ELECTED ?
'RACE BAIT' TO GET ELECTED ?

Maybe Billary can get David Duke's endorsement...

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Steve, San Diego — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:06:24 GMT

Are women voting for HRC just because she is a woman? If so, then don't get angry when the Repukes beat her in the general election. I believe it is true that many DEM candiates throughout the country do not want her to be the nominee becuase it will hurt their chances in November. I believe many are jumping on the Obama bandwagon because it will ensure their success in Novemeber too.

Wake up DEMs, we have a winner in Senator Obama. And not only that, he may actually become a great President.

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Page 1 of the Rove Playbook — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:06:46 GMT

Democrats that say they're the "true" Democrats because they support the Clintons...

Start throwing Republican attack lines at Ted Kennedy in 3...2...1...

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Ann, Hohenwald, TN — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:06:51 GMT

If Obama gets the democratic nomination, then the Republicans will take the White House again. I'm not a racist, just speaking the plain old truth. If the democrats want to sit back and let this happen, then so be it. Hillary is the one that can go to work and get our country back on even keel, but if that is not what you want, then don't cry when the election comes about in November and the Republicans are giving the victory cry.

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JT, Texas — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:07:19 GMT

Doesn't the endorsement of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Ted Daschle, Patrick Leahy and the like undermine the contention of Obama that he is the outsider who can change Washington? Doesn't it kinda make you wonder why these men would endorse him if they really thought he was going to make any change to business as usual?

Obama is not the black candidate, he is after all part white, and as such would be just another man taking the reins in Washington. If you want real change, let's see how a woman would handle governing this nation. We have had 50 years of men guiding the nation, wouldn't real change be giving a woman a shot at it?

As for Obama being the next JFK, he is not. And lest we forget, JFK's personal activities while in the white house were not a lot different than those of one Bill Clinton, it's just that in those days we didn't air our presidents dirty laundry for the whole world to see. Anyone remember Marilyn Monroe and the Rat Pack?

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RGO, California — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:08:08 GMT

I never thought today would ever come. George Bush's last state of the union address ... A time for celebration.... Saturday's primary was historic when you consider that South Carolina has always been a republican stronghold which was not the case in the primary since more Democrats voted than Republicans. Even FOX news has thrown in the towel and admitted that a democrat will occupy the White House in Jan '09. Thanks to GWB, the GOP died a slow death and have now been put to rest by there very own. How sweet is that :). Have a great day right wing losers.

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Ann, Hohenwald, TN — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:09:50 GMT

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agnes russell — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:11:16 GMT

I refuse to accept the dribble saying Bill talked race during s.c. primary. I also don"t see anthing Obama has to contribute to a presidency. I think Kennedy's endorsement will be a plus for Hillary.

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StopwatchingMSNBC, Rochester, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:11:35 GMT

Lynette, NYC,

Although, I hope we are wrong, I also believe John McCain will be the next Presisdent if Obama wins. They will hammer him on experience. The media loves McCain, so they won't shamelessly support Obama in the General Election and therefore will bring out all the skeletons in Obama's closet when they currently refuse to do it while he is running against Hillary. I still think Hillary will win the nomination, but you never know how hard the media is working against Hillary, so if they have their way, she may not win the nomination. The media has always taken the position against the Democrats strongest candidate and makes the Democrats vote for the guy who can't win. They actually tried to do the same against Bill in 92 and 96 but he still won, but I still say if we had Howard Dean winning the nomination in 2004, he would be President today.

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DJ, Philadelphia — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:12:06 GMT

You got to love it! Obama utilizes the race card, throws the ageism card at Teddy and gains his endorsement. I will just sit back on watch on Super Tuesday as his campaign comes a tumbling down and the gang at MSNBC minus Crawford and Buchanan have their meltdown in a humiliating fashion once again.

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Michael — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:12:20 GMT

Please, McCain has nothing going for him other than his support for an unpopular war. The only candidate he can beat is Clinton because too many Democrats, myself included, will not turn out to support her and her husband after their race which is clearly about what's best for the Clintons, not the Democratic Party or the Nation as a whole.

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Brian, Las Vegas — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:12:47 GMT

Obama's endorsements are nice, but what is more important is the hundreds of thousands of voters that finally care about a presidential candidate. No more of the Clinton/Romney old style garbage; now we have a candidate who actually cares about the issues and bringing people together to come up with the best possible solution, not the most partisan solution.

Obama '08!!!

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Frankie Crosby, Columbus Georgia. — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:13:19 GMT

OMG!!

Obama, msnbc, Obama, msnbc, Obama, msnbc, Obama, msnbc,Obama, msnbc, Obama, msnbc, Obama, msnbc, Obama, msnbc....

DID WE "READ THAT RIGHT" YEP, SUCH AND EASY READ, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT ONE...

Fox News is Far more objective than MSNBC... in fact distortion and partisanship is the "Hall Mark" of MSNBC, you simply can't get an honest answer out of them...

Lets see how they try to spin Super Tuesday? How much disingenuous, triangulating, not being truthful, miss-quotes, lies, comes out of the MSNBC Obama mouth piece.... On that one...

MSNBC NEWS, "give me a break, that's the biggest fairy tale I've ever heard."

lets see on Super Tuesday, how you are going to "lie" your way out of that one....

By the way Obama started running his campaign adds in Florida, first... I just thought I would tell MSNBC that, because they lie about everything.... Professional paid liars!!

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:13:32 GMT

'...The thing about a Kennedy endorsement is that once he's in, HE'S ALL IN. Ask Al Gore or John Kerry. Kennedy loves campaigning and when he hits the stump, he gets fired up. And as the Times reports, Kennedy is going to head West and then back to the Northeast to campaign for Obama...'

Maybe the Clintons 'race baiting' wasn't THAT GREAT an idea....
Actions have reactions

If 'race' in on the table this cycle, what about RAPE?
Bill Clinton raped Kathleen Willey
Bill Clinton raped Jaunita Broddrick
(anybody notice a pattern, here ?)
Hillary INTIMIDATED Juanita Brodrrick into NOT REPORTING HER RAPE !!

Some feminist, that Hillary.....
Bill Clinton, serial adulterer, serial rapist
... and Hillary, Bill's enabler and accomplist

Have nice election

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Ken Collins/Wagoner,Oklahoma — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:15:27 GMT

Lynette,NYC,

Let's discuss skeletons, I think the Clinton's have stacked up a bedroom full, not counting the oval office and white water and on and on !!
That is why I respect Sen Obama he could blast the Clinton past , he chooses to discuss issues !!!!

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:16:14 GMT

From the LA Times Opinion section:

Is the right right on the Clintons?

Hillary's campaign tactics are causing some liberals
to turn against the couple.
January 26, 2008

Something strange happened the other day. All these
different people -- friends, co-workers, relatives,
people on a liberal e-mail list I read -- kept saying
the same thing: They've suddenly developed a disdain
for Bill and Hillary Clinton. Maybe this is just a
coincidence, but I think we've reached an irrevocable
turning point in liberal opinion of the Clintons.

The sentiment seems to be concentrated among Barack
Obama supporters. Going into the campaign, most of us
liked Hillary Clinton just fine, but the fact that
tens of millions of Americans are seized with
irrational loathing for her suggested that she might
not be a good Democratic nominee. But now that
loathing seems a lot less irrational. We're not
frothing Clinton haters like ... well, name pretty
much any conservative. We just really wish they'd go
away.

The big turning point seems to be this week, when the
Clintons slammed Obama for acknowledging that Ronald
Reagan changed the country. Everyone knows Reagan
changed the country. Bill and Hillary have said he
changed the country. But they falsely claimed that
Obama praised Reagan's ideas, saying he was a better
president than Clinton -- something he didn't say and
surely does not believe.

This might have been the most egregious case, but it
wasn't the first. Before the New Hampshire primaries,
Clinton supporters e-mailed pro-choice voters claiming
that Obama was suspect on abortion rights because he
had voted "present" instead of "no" on some votes. (In
fact, the president of the Illinois chapter of Planned
Parenthood said she had coordinated strategy with
Obama and wanted him to vote "present.") Recently,
there have been waves of robocalls in South Carolina
repeatedly attacking "Barack Hussein Obama."

I crossed the Clinton Rubicon a couple of weeks ago
when, in the course of introducing Hillary, Clinton
supporter and Black Entertainment Television founder
Robert L. Johnson invoked Obama's youthful drug use.
This was disgusting on its own terms, but worse still
if you know anything about Johnson. I do -- I once
wrote a long profile of him. He has a sleazy habit of
appropriating the logic of civil rights for his own
financial gain. He also has a habit of aiding
conservative crusades to eliminate the estate tax and
privatize Social Security by falsely claiming they
redistribute wealth from African Americans to whites.
The episode reminded me of the Clintons' habit of
surrounding themselves with the most egregious
characters: Dick Morris, Marc Rich and so on.

The Clinton campaign is trying to make it seem as if
the complaint is about negativity, and it is pointing
out that Obama has criticized Hillary as well. That's
what politicians are supposed to do when they compete
for votes. But criticism isn't the same thing as lying
and sleaze-mongering.

Am I starting to sound like a Clinton hater? It's a
scary thought. Of course, to conservatives, it's a
delicious thought. The Wall Street Journal published a
gloating editorial noting that liberals had suddenly
learned "what everyone else already knows about the
Clintons." (By "everyone," it means Republicans.)

It made me wonder: Were the conservatives right about
Bill Clinton all along? Maybe not right to set up a
perjury trap so they could impeach him, but right
about the Clintons' essential nature? Fortunately, the
Journal's attempt to convince us that the Clintons
have always been unscrupulous liars seemed to prove
the opposite. Its examples of Clintonian lies were
their claims that Bob Dole wanted to cut Medicare,
that there was a vast right-wing conspiracy, that
Paula Jones was "trailer trash" and that Kenneth Starr
was a partisan.

Except Dole did vote to cut Medicare, there was a vast
right-wing conspiracy and Starr was and is a rabid
partisan. ("Trailer trash" is, of course, a matter of
opinion, and it's a cruel thing to say, but as far as
whether it's a lie -- well, it's not like they called
William F. Buckley "trailer trash.")

So maybe the answer is that the Clintons would have
smeared their opponents in the 1990s, but lying is
unnecessary when the other party is doing things such
as voting to slash Medicare to pay for a big tax cut
for the rich.

But the conservatives might have had a point about the
Clintons' character. Bill's affair with Monica
Lewinsky jeopardized the whole progressive project for
momentary pleasure. The Clintons gleefully
triangulated the Democrats in Congress to boost his
approval rating. They do seem to have a feeling of
entitlement to power.

If Hillary wins the nomination, most of us will
probably vote for her because the alternative is
likely to be worse. But what happens if she's
embroiled in another scandal? Will liberals rally
behind her, or will they remember the Democratic
primary?

Jonathan Chait, a contributing editor to Opinion and a
senior editor at the New Republic, is the author of
"The Big Con: The True Story of How Washington Got
Hoodwinked and Hijacked by Crackpot Economics."...'

Welll...... DUH !
The Clintons are sleaze bags
It was easy to give the the benefit of the doubt
(when they opposed Newt Gingrich and Tom DeLay)

But, they really are LOW LIFES
Did Bill Rape Juanita Broaddrick ?
Did Bill Clinton rape Kathleen Willey ?

YES !
Bill Clinton DID RAPE THOSE WOMEN !!
What does that make Hillary Clinton ?
Bill's enabler ?

It's almost like an episode of CSI or Law and Order
You go, girl

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Spring Woods, Amsterdam, Holland — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:17:57 GMT

You certainly are missing something and showing a lack of understanding. Go to Senator Obama's website and do some homework. Have a read under "Issues". :-)

http://www.barackobama.com/index.php

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Ken Collins/Wagoner, Oklahoma — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:19:47 GMT

Hey Chuck , if I am not mistaken you are trying to be cute with the word thing about Sen Kennenedy is "all in "talking about weight !! hey Chuckie LOOK IN THE MIRROR !!!!!

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Cliff Trent, Spokane WA — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:20:03 GMT

Does anyone realize how much hate Ted Kennedy must have for the Clintons? Here he's turning his back on the last Democratic President in almost a generation for someone that can best be termed a rookie. Kennedy was probably on the fence with the situation until how he saw the Clintons behave in South Carolina. Anyone, and I mean anyone, that race-baited like the Clintons did last week would have been run out of their party on rails. Until last week, the Clintons were likely to win the Democratic nomination. Now it appears that they're on borrowed time.

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Rox, somewhere,ne — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:20:08 GMT

You go Lynette. What is the big deal with the Kennedy "endorsement" talk about a ball and chain around someones ankle. I am so glad he didn't support Hillary. here is what I can tell, Obama has said (on his plane) that he has spoke to Kennedy several times over the last year. I though he was against the Old Washington machine...LMAO..Who best to represent the OLD Washington machine then Kennedy. It appears that Washington has a motive on endorsements and they don't matter to most Americans. Let's face it, now Obama will really have a big problem with answering the Kennedy, Rezco (spelled wrong I know) problems. It's okay America, we shall all over come the Obama bull, were much smater then that. How many of you would like to have the house he bought for $300K. Oh wait, we can't. We just don't have his connections do we. While he is buying his house at half price we are robbing Peter and paying Paul to keep ours. Deals with the devil all come out in the wash.

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LINDA SOTO WEST LAFAYETTE IN — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:23:30 GMT

YOU KNOW WHEN I HEARD KENNEDY ENDORSED OBAMA I SAID BIG DEAL STILL SHOWS N THE SEANATE THEY DO NOT WANT WOMAN AS ONE OF THE BIGGEST POSTIONS N THE US AND THAT IS NOTHING NEW THE WOMAN WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO BE ONE OF THE GREASTEST PRESIDENTS IS RUNNING AND MEN ARE REALLY OUT THERE TO STOP IT THEY ARE NOT READY FOR A WOMAN PRESIDENT IN THE UNITED STATES AND THAT IS REALLY SAD .OBAMA IS TO KNEW I DO NOT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT HIM AND THING COMING OUT IN THE NEWS ABOUT THE SLUMLORD HE WAS AFFILATED WITH WAS ARRESTED BY THE FEDS GO FIGURE HE TOO KNEW I DONT WANT THE MAN LEADING MY COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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CommonSenseinNC,Charlotte,NC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:24:03 GMT

Lynette NYC

Ted kennedy. He has too many skeletons in his closet (literally) or he would be running against Obama.

Clearly you are a Hillary supporter so you know what they say about skeletons, "people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones".

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Jeff, Portland, OR — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:24:29 GMT

Lynette, NYC

If you don't see what the appeal with Obama is then you must never pay attention to politics.

I don't think anyone would admit that they base their vote on who has the besst endorsements but it does make a candidate more appealing. I don't think a president has ever won without winning endorsements. That's how it works.

Yes Kennedy has lots of skeletons in his closet but he is still a respected senator and a good endorsment. And he has no more skeletons in his closet than the Clintons do who are actually running for joint presidency!

By the way Romney will win the RNC nomination. The very rich and conservative would never let McCain become their nominee. They need another puppet like Bush to do their bidding. Who better than Romney Robot.

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Dora Explorer — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:25:35 GMT

Then: Clinton's say the won't campaign in Florida.

Now: Clinton's are campaigning in Flordia.

But Hillary is there becasue "She cares!", right?

Clinton's lying = Their lips moving

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Nashville_fan — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:26:04 GMT

How's this for a reality check: No one is buying the co-president act. If Senator Clinton wants to be President, she is going to have to run her own campaign and run on her own record.

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Bee, NH — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:26:14 GMT

Paul reminds me of James Carville on ABC news; the Clinton machine has lost their mojo and is becoming irrelevant in the Democratic Party.

Shall we say Hillary Clinton is a bridge to the '90s? She doesn't mean what she say neither does she say what she mean. Her stance regarding Florida reminds me of how dishonest she is. She is unethical, dishonest and can't be trusted.

Like the famous author said, i want a President that say what she means and mean what she say.

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Dominic Iacopino, Brick, NJ — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:26:48 GMT

So Teddy Kennedy is endorsing Obama. That's about right. Ted Kennedy is a slime ball who got away with vehicular homicide because his last name was Kennedy, a person who left the scene of accident and let another person drown. Ask the Koepeckne family how they about Teddy. Obama campaigns against Washington and for CHANGE, yet he gleefully accepts the support of two of the of the greatest Washington insiders that there ever were in the history of this country in Kerry and Kennedy, who between them have spent 70 years in Washington. Obama campaigns against the politics of the past yet gleefully accepts the support of Caroline Kennedy, daughter of the late President who term in the White House was in the early '60's. He is a president whose myth has been kept alive by the Kennedy family, who try to depict him as so kind of diety, whose morals make Bill Clinton look like a Boy Scout, and was a President who was much more beloved in death than he ever was in life. I am 61 years old, and I think it is about time we put Camelot to bed where it belongs. I have been a lifelong Democrat, but if they nominate Barack Obama, I will have no choice but to vote Republican, for either McCain or Romney. Obama would be the least experienced person ever to occupy the Oval Office since Jimmy Carter, and we all know how well his Presidency turned out. So people ou there, think before you vote and realize how important your vote really is.

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Rox, somewhere,ne — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:27:47 GMT

Sierra get real....If we are to believe that then lets talk Kennedy. Something about a river, limo and dead girl. Something about divorce and married sec. Something about drinking like a fish. Something about the last two president hopefuls not winning? Yea keep backing Obama. Really, did you see the Chicago headlines. How is Obama differnt the any of them. Get real.

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RACHEL, MIAMI — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:28:16 GMT

THREE OTHER KENNEDY'S HAVE ENDORSED HILLARY!!!
RFK'S CHILDREN.. BOBBY JR., KATHLEEN KENNEDY, AND KERRY KENNDEY. WHY HAS MSNBC FAILED TO REPORT THIS!!!!! VERY POOR REPORTING AND VERY PRO-OBAMA.

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Maria, Miami — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:29:36 GMT

Ann in TN,
Please see all the responses to Lynette from NYC. Everyone on this board (ok, maybe 95% of people on this board) would love to see a woman in the White House. But not this woman. She would set the woman agenda back at least a decade for 2 reasons: 1) everyone would just say "yeah, this is really a 3rd Bill term" and 2) another Clinton term would be SO polarizing that people would, if it were subconsciously, associate all the hate and division with the "first woman President."

Let's get some of the terrific women governors who are so well respected in the cue for the next election. Here's one name for starters: Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius. She's considered the next rock star in the Dem party and is beloved in her state.

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Nashville_fan — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:29:37 GMT

JT, Texas wrote:
"Doesn't the endorsement of Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Ted Daschle, Patrick Leahy and the like undermine the contention of Obama that he is the outsider who can change Washington? "

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No, it means that the people who have known Hillary Clinton the longest don't want her (and Bill) to be President of the United States (again). Nice spin though.

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RACHEL, MIAMI — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:30:40 GMT

THREE OTHER KENNEDY'S HAVE ENDORSED HILLARY!!!
RFK'S CHILDREN.. BOBBY JR., KATHLEEN KENNEDY, AND KERRY KENNDEY. WHY HAS MSNBC FAILED TO REPORT THIS!!!!! VERY POOR REPORTING AND VERY PRO-OBAMA.

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Wete Wilde, Boston — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:31:52 GMT

Great news for Obama! But Barack, make sure someone besides Ted drives you around. And stay away from bridges.

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Maria, Miami — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:31:54 GMT

Wow, Frankie Crosby, we love you girl but relax a bit. It was just one loss on Saturday night. Granted, it was a big loss but she's winning big in ALL of the Super Tuesday states.

No need for all the FOX promotion : )

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Eddie, Jersey City, NJ — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:32:40 GMT

Oh my God! Listen to you guys. You have an Obama supporters like Sierra, SF writing "Neener, Neener, Neener" and calling Bill Clinton a "serial rapist." What kind of party is this? I remember about a week ago Obama saying that he is certain that he can get Hillary voters, can Hillary say she can get mine? At this point, NO, Obama won't be getting my support if he's the nominee and I don't stand alone. As a staunch Democrat I am very much leaning to the Republicans. You guys Disgust me! Grow up. Debate the "real" issues.

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Dominic Iacopino, Brick, NJ — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:33:01 GMT

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Bill — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:34:47 GMT

Jaycee in Ventura,
That's perhaps the most cogent analysis of the what the GOP playbook will be against the Clintons that I've seen. Senator Clinton's line about "they've been attacking me for 35 years and I'm STILL standing" is a great one. That doesn't mean she'll still be standing in November. Republicans have been gearing up to hammer the Clintons for 2 years now. And, as you point out, the problem is not that they'll throw slime at her. That's to be expected. The REAL problem is that there's some substance behind the slime.

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DJ, Philadelphia — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:35:39 GMT

Sierra, SF (Sent Monday, January 28, 2008 10:13 AM)

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You should be banned from posting on First Read and for your commentary to be permitted is a shameful act on the part of the moderating team which is most likely an intern.

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StopwatchingMSNBC, Rochester, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:37:34 GMT

That is why I respect Sen Obama he could blast the Clinton past , he chooses to discuss issues !!!!

You mean like he brought up Hillary being on the board of Wal-Mart? I guess, I dodn't really understand what the issues are? Just wondering.

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Dianna, Owasso, OK — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:37:51 GMT

I can not believe some of the things I am reading. To be honest some smack of racism to me I will not point fingers they know who they are. This is what I do not understand about Clinton supports (mind you I voted for Bill twice), they seemed to be blinded. Lynette for example talking about skeletons this is exactly why I do not want another Clinton in the white house. I am sick of my country being dragged through the mud for the personal gains of one party over another while good hard working Americans suffer. Can we just say enough already. Can a die hard Clinton supported really say this will not be a blood bath of muck bringing our party down if she wins? If you can say that then simply color me confused???

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cythia louise — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:38:34 GMT

Get over yourself with Kennedy having too many skeletons in his closet, shall I start with Bill womanizer Clinton. His mind was on Lewinsky when he let AlKada do their thing here?
We need a new face, new ideas so badly in this Country. I hope he wins, Mr. Obama. Obama makes the most sense, not to mention the eloquent speaker that he is, you want to listen to him, he acts presidential.
The Clintons are making total idiots of themselves. The people who did not think they were ruthless before, they sure do now. Bill Clinton is making a jerk of himself each and everyday; he will listen to no one to back off!
As far as the Republicans are concerned Roomey can only speak about the financial problems and McCann can only talk about war(s), he will quickly get us into another war.

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Brian, Las Vegas — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:38:51 GMT

You do realize that Hillary (along with Mitt Romney) is the most universally detested candidate in the election. The only thing that will mobilize voters more than a movement to elect a candidate they like is a movement to keep someone out of office they despise. Her tactics have already alienated nearly half of the Democratic party, and if she wins the party nomination a good number of us will sit out or vote for McCain or Bloomberg rather than let her cheat her way into the White House for Bill's unconstitutional third term. Don't buy the Clinton machine's garbage: she is completely unelectable in a general election, she has no ability to transcend party lines, and she would be a horrible president. Barack Obama is the best choice for 2008.

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Joann, Cranston, RI — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:39:02 GMT

You people aren't remembering all the good Bill Clinton did as president. Something we haven't seen since he left office. Say anything you want be be truthful. Also who cares about a Kennedy Enforsement. Don't you all remember Chappaquiddick or do you forget that easily. for those of you who are too young - google Chappaquiddick. They're support is a detrement!! Go Hillary go!!

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LINDA SOTO WEST LAFAYETTE IN — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:39:15 GMT

IS ANYONE OUT THERE LOOKING AT WHAT MESS WE ARE IN RIGHT NOW? WHEN CLINTON IN OFFICE I FOR ONE HAD MY BILLS PAID AND OWED NOTHING. SINCE BUSH I OWE I OWE I OWE AND CANT SEEM TO GET BACK IN THE GREEN AND I AM A TIGHT WADE BUT EVERYTHING SKY HIGH . I CANNOT KEEP MY HEAD ABOVE WATER IM DROWNING!!!!!!!!!!

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Al, houston, texas — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:39:46 GMT

US president will be selected by Israeli lobbyest, not by the American people, Hilary has the biggest support of the unted states of israel.

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HMT-MI — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:40:39 GMT

How many remember abrahmoff,ralph reed,thieves,sorry but there are so many pedophiles,closet gays,cocaine dealers,that it would take too much space to even write all their names down let alone keeptrack of them.But to make it a short list just remember George w Bush and his cabinet.And yes mika and jo are a sory pair.He more or less tells her to shut up so he can get all his shots in on the clintons.Not all the Kennedys are for Obama but shhh------lets not talk about that.

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Cliff Baker, Arlington, TX — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:40:42 GMT

It is sad that the TV and printed presses (including the commemtators and pundits) INJECT RACE to the Democratic's Presidential Race.

The media FOOLISHLY took the baits from Obama surrogates and SC Congressman Clyburn and turns the "fairy tale" comment by former President Clinton, and the "MLK and Johnson" comment by Senator Clinton into the race issue. The fairy tale and MLK and Johnson comments from the Clintons are factual and are NOT racial.

The media took the "race card" spins from Obama surrogates and SC Congressman Clyburn. The truth is the Obama surrogates and SC Congressman Clyburn play the race card and successfully manipulated the press.

Congressman Clyburn is NOT neutral. There is nothing wrong for Congressman Clyburn to perform his civic duty by voting for Senator Obama a the polling place. However, Congressman Clyburn is disingenuous for manipulating the press (particularly Joe Scarborough) to wrongly accuse the Clintons of playing the race card.

I witness Congressman Clyburn used Joe Scarborough of the Morning Joe shown on the S.C. election day. On this particular show Congressman Clyburn implied that the Clintons' "fairy tale" and "MLK/Johnson" comments are "RACIALLY MOTIVATED code words. Joe Scarborough stupidly bought Congressman Clyburn race-bait's trick.

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Daniel, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:40:59 GMT

There were SIX polls from Florida released just this morning and most have a small McCain edge and what looks like a boost from Crist's endorsement. Full poll roundup here: http://www.campaigndiaries.com/2008/01/in-tight-florida-race-some-small.html

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Rick, WS, NC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:41:40 GMT

the obama dream machine keeps marching...come about October when the he has 31% in the polls and leading the dem party to a real electoral butt kicking you dims will be wondering what happened to your dream...it died along with every other utopian boneheaded idea you guys have had the past 40 years

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gene britton — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:41:49 GMT

It appears the Ted Kennedy clan is supporting Obama and the Robert Kennedy side of the family is supporting Senator Clinton. I think it now stands 3 and 3 from each side. If it runs out that way, Obama will lose because, I don't know the exact number, but I think Robert had around 9 kids. Hillary will do well on February 5th and finish Obama off by the time I get to vote here in Texas in March. I know its hard believe the polls, but she is up around 20 points in Texas.

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Regina — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:41:51 GMT

ted kennedy has no support in the hispanic commuity get your facts straight, we hate his last immigration bill, it is not good for our immigrant community. If Richardson endorses Obama then I'll take a second look

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Harrison, Andrews, NC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:44:53 GMT

If Obama gets the Democratic nod, there will be much rejoicing in all of the Republican sectors. It will not matter who the Republicans nominate - Romney or McCain! From a general survey (very informal and quite random) of 20 Democratic voters in my neighborhood, if Obama gets the Democratic nomination [19 will vote for the Republican candidate and 1 will not vote!]! Major rationale - Obama looks, acts, speaks just like JIMMY CARTER did - what a fiasco the Carter years were!

Just some thoughts from the rural area!

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SL, NJ — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:45:43 GMT

The Clinton's will lie to get elected.

From CBS website.

"Mr. Clinton plummeted in the polls, so in an effort to salvage his campaign, he took the risky step of doing an interview on 60 Minutes in front of a huge audience right after the 1992 Super Bowl. During his interview with Correspondent Steve Kroft, Mr. Clinton, who was joined by his wife Hillary, denied ever having an affair with Flowers.

It took years for Mr. Clinton to admit that he was lying in that interview, and that he once had a relationship with Flowers. Even though the interview rejuvenated his campaign, he writes in his book that he was so furious at Kroft for prying into his personal life that he wanted to “slug him.”"

They then wasted millions of tax payer dollars while allowing an investigation to go on when he could have fessed up.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:46:53 GMT

A little less whining please. Could it be that MSNBC criticizes the Clinton campaign because its so often behaving in a bizarre manner? That's my guess.

If you think MSNBC is unfair, you haven't noticed the turn ABC News has taken lately with the Clinton criticism.

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John, Lake Worth, Fl. — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:48:20 GMT

Drudge Report developing... National Rasmussen Poll: Romney leads conservative vote by 15%. That's called Momentum! Florida will be Michigan deja vu. Close on election eve, a Romney rout on election day! Go Mitt!

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Gary Schear, Bozeman Montana — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:48:57 GMT

Hillary = motivated republican base.
Obama = Unknown quantity for Republican strategists.
Unless of course they want to openly play the race card. Not working well for Bill Clinton's Campaign right now.

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HMT-MI — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:55:14 GMT

neither Obama or Hillary will win the white house.So many of you have destroyed that with your whining and ugly accusations at both of them.You have aided and abetted the republicans.All that is left is to hopeully win more seats in the house and senate.I know Hannity,Rush ,Morris,Delay,Bush and Cheney,etc will be eternally grateful and laughing at your stupidity.

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Gloria Gomez — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:56:06 GMT

Who cares if Ted Kennedy endorses Obama. That doesn't mean that he will win. All it means is that the Democrats will go Republican.Because that's what I plan to do. I won't vote for Obama. I had respect for the Kennedy's but I think they are traitors to the Clintons. If Hillary doesn't get the endorsement I will vote Republican. Anyone BUT Obama!!!

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sonya, atlanta, ga — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:57:31 GMT

The Resko arrest has much more to do with the Governor and Resko bribing state agency officals than Obama. Every Chicago politico on the democratic side had ties to Resko. Yes, Obama should have not bought the property next to his house from Resko, and he has owned up to that. Has Hillary apologized for Hsu who the feds have been after for years and Clinton had to return money previously but still went back to Hsu.

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Marjorie, Tallahassee, FL — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:57:34 GMT

Inasmuch as I was an admirer of JFK, endorsements from Caroline and Ted Kennedy mean absolutely nothiing to me except make me more of a fan of Hillary Clinton. Did Barack H. Obama show any signs of unity when all the blacks voted for him -- oh, do ya think it was because he maybe was black -- or at least half black.

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Clem, Harrisburg, PA — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:59:10 GMT

Every empire that stood tall eventually fell, and the irony in it is that, it was not the leaders that led it to fall, it was the citizen not taking the opportunity to take over their government. So here we are, the theory of democracy was supposed to be the antidote to our fall, but we have tuned out, fight to retain the staus quo and live with failed promises. Politics have turned to lifetime career and they tout their longevity with "playing the game". Only few politicians really knows what it is like to be ordinary citizen and now we can easily fall for their lies and deception. The world is looking at us right now and i know that anything but BUSH will do, however our choice will be also very important both on a philosophical level as well as on a redemption level. We need to seize this golden moment and elect a fresh, uncoventional, new face to the head of our government because i beleive it will serve as a new start, serve as a redemption and more importantly give the power back to us. Poverty level in this country is nothing compared to poverty in most other countries but we hardly even notice that. We have become so complacent with our lives that we have lost touch with our inteligence when it comes to electing someone. It will really be a shame if we dont see the opportunity in a candidate like Obama. If the status quo talk us out of electing him and business continues as usual, then it will be the country's destiny to start falling even with our precious democracy. Right now we need everything changed and i dont trust Hillary to change everything because most of the things that needs changed have benefited her. Obama on the other hand is a junior senator and hardly have any ties or loyalty to what we need changed. For once in our lifetime, let's think of what is best for our country. Good luck and i wish all us well.

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Karen, Newtown, CT — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:00:02 GMT

I agree with JT (above)--endorsements of Obama by the old Washington guard (Kennedy, Kerry, Dashle and Leahy) seem to clash with the Obama message that he's going to change Washington, bla, bla, bla. I disagree with the comment of the person (above) who thought that Kennedy's endorsement was really going to help Obama because Kennedy's such an active and relentless campaigner, as in campaigning for Al Gore and John Kerry--my comment: look how far it got Gore and Kerry! Once people reflect on this latest development, I think many will realize that despite Obama's talk, he really is a politician, just like anyone else running for president--he has to be to get as far as he has and to have raised as much money as he has.

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Marjorie, Tallahasse, FL — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:00:09 GMT

In one of the messages above, Clinton's skeleton's stacked up a bedroom full. The only difference between him and JFK was the press never released the information about all of his laisions.

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Rodney, Lakeland Florida — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:02:03 GMT

I am really wanting to see where Arnold Swartzeneggar and Maria Shriver falls in this Kennedy thing. Will she break with her uncle and cousin Caroline. Right now both Hillary and Obama are split with the Kennedy family votes. Still a lot more Kennedy's to go around. Go Hillary,, She is the only one who can steady the worlds problems through her experience and the clintons established relationships with world leaders. Shame on you MSNBC misquoting the clintons and disecting everything they say. Bucannan is the only fare objective person to the clintons on there.

Thanks
Rodney

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Mary, SF, CA — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:02:18 GMT

I think that it is imperative that the Democrats retake the White House. I voted for Hillary in the primary but if Obama's increasing support because of his inspirational speeches and his request that "we take a leap of faith" to vote for him, I'm afraid that Hillary just might get run over. Whoever the Democatic nominee is, he/she has my vote. We have to undo what the Republicans have done to our country.

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:03:29 GMT

OBAMA Leads Colorado 34 to 32
Who can win in the Red States ? OBAMA !

From the Denver Post:

Obama, Clinton split Colo. voters
Romney leads GOP
By Michael Booth and Michael Riley
The Denver Post

Mitt Romney enjoys a dominant, 19-point lead over John McCain among Republicans likely to attend Colorado caucuses Feb. 5, with Mike Huckabee trailing and Ron Paul and Rudy Giuliani barely registering a nod, according to a Denver Post poll.

The Democratic caucuses hold more potential for high drama in the presidential race, with Colorado voters split evenly between Barack Obama at 34 percent and Hillary Rodham Clinton at 32 percent — well within the poll's 3.5 percentage-point margin of error. John Edwards was the choice of 17 percent of likely caucus-goers. Fourteen percent said they were still undecided.

Obama's strength in Colorado may come from the fact that the state's Democrats see the desire for change as a driving issue in the campaign. The poll showed 51 percent of Democrats see change as more important than experience — and the ability to bring change is a trait they overwhelmingly associate with the Illinois senator.
The issues on voters' minds are familiar, with the economy, the war, health care, immigration and homeland security topping the list. But poll results show those issues play very differently depending on party affiliation.

The war is the biggest issue on the minds of Democrats, but it ranks relatively low with Republicans. Immigration is an important issue with Republicans but not Democrats. And the economy, while important to voters of both parties, tops the list as the most important issue in the campaign because it is the biggest issue on the minds of unaffiliated voters. That group — more than a third of Colorado voters — won't be participating in the caucuses, however.

Democrats in the state have been predicting a heavy turnout for their caucuses this year after a calendar change moved up their vote to a week when the race is still on. In 2004 and 2000, Colorado Democrats voted so late that John Kerry and Al Gore had long since whipped the field.

The state's Republican caucuses last considered a presidential candidate in 2000, when George W. Bush solidly beat John McCain.

The poll results put added pressure on the Clinton and Obama turnout machines, with many voters saying they are comfortable with the tossup.

"It's tough, because I do like Hillary Clinton and I do like John Edwards," said Obama fan Jennifer Howie of Longmont. "I have bounced back and forth. I think Hillary and Barack are pretty similar on their electability."

Romney the businessman

Colorado Republicans leaning toward former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney latch on to his successful businessman image and, like other Western voters, are more open to his Mormon roots, according to the voters and a poll analyst.

"He's put together, more than most of the candidates," said Leo Schmitz of Castle Rock. "Being a good businessman, maybe that's what we need with the economy the way it is."

But, like Clinton for the Democrats, Romney was perceived far more negatively than positively among all respondents, suggesting he'll have trouble appealing to a wider audience that includes Colorado's swing voters. He's too scripted and lacks warmth, many voters said.

"I'm the kind of person who gets gut feelings. His mannerisms, the way he talks, it just doesn't seem sincere," Shawn Schultz, a 52-year-old Qwest employee from Elizabeth, said of Romney.

Romney dominated the Nevada caucuses and has done well throughout the West, where Mormons are neighbors instead of a distant question mark, said Brad Coker of the polling firm Mason-Dixon. Coker's firm called 800 registered Colorado voters Jan. 21-23 and narrowed the responses down to those most likely to go to their party's caucuses.

The poll doesn't reflect the candidate preferences of independent voters, a key swing group on the rise in Colorado, and that's an important caveat in an election season featuring wide swerves in affinity.

Likely Republican caucus-goers tipped to Romney over Arizona Sen. McCain by 43 percent to 24 percent, with former Arkansas Gov. Huckabee at 17 percent. U.S. Rep. Ron Paul had 5 percent, while former New York Mayor Giuliani, a former front-runner who has been concentrating on Florida, was at 4 percent.

But those preferences veil big differences in the way Republicans see their party's field. They tend to vote based on the issues important to them, helping to explain the difficulty voters nationwide are having rallying behind one candidate. Republicans in Colorado clearly see Romney as best on immigration, McCain best on terrorism, and Huckabee best on values.

Experience vs. change

For the state's Democrats, their perceptions of the candidates upend some conventional wisdom. Despite Clinton's long association with the nation's health care debate, they see Barack Obama as better able to deal with that issue than the former first lady. And although Obama voted against the initial Iraq war resolution and has made that opposition a centerpiece of his campaign, Democrats believe Clinton is better able to deal with the war.

"She's probably had more experience working with the military than Obama has," said Nancy Goese, a Greeley Democrat and retiree who said the war is by far her most important voting issue.

"On that first vote, everyone thought they were looking for weapons of mass destruction. Everyone would have voted for it because Bush said it was about protecting the United States," Goese said.

And the gap between the perceptions of party voters is no better illustrated than by the way they see the former first lady. Asked which of the candidates would best be able to work with Republicans, Democrats picked Clinton by a wide margin. Asked which of the Democrats would best be able to work with them, just 8 percent of Republicans chose Clinton — putting her at the bottom of the list.

By narrowing the respondents down to likely caucus-goers, the poll's margin of error rose to 9 percent for Republicans and 8 percent for Democrats. The poll was taken before Saturday's Democratic primary in South Carolina and the important contest for both parties in Florida on Tuesday. For Democrats at least, Colorado's final results are wide open, given the margin and the big news to come before caucus day, Coker said.

Colorado voters were surprisingly optimistic about the nation's future, despite weeks of troubling economic news. Forty-seven percent of voters expected things "to get better," while only 21 percent said they would get worse, and 20 percent expected more of the same.

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Dazed and Confused in DC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:04:53 GMT

"We are MSNBC, and Florida doesn't count because we say it doesn't count. And because we are ga ga over Saint Barack." But this Obama cheering is getting ridiculous. The number of delegates decided up to this point by the primaries and caucuses--even if every single one of them had gone to the same candidate--is virtually meaningless. You need 2025 to win. This nearly-complete first phase of the campaign has been all about two things and only two things: winnowing the field and setting the table for Super Tuesday. And if you think a double-digit win in Florida with all candidates on the ballot and a record turnout won't mean anything, you are flat out nuts. Both the meaningless SC primary (only 8 reliable Republican electoral votes in the general) and the Ted Kennedy endorsement will be old news after tomorrow evening, when the last momentum setting event goes decisively to Sen. Clinton.

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john waterford mi — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:05:11 GMT

clintons did more for this country than anyone in years.A balanced budget.To say this was a normal cycle is idiotic and I suppose the bush mess was also.What has obama done.Is it true that he had a poor voting record?He belongs to a church that id anti whites with no whites allowed.I like john m but hes too old and I like Edwards,but the Clintons get my vote

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Barbara C., Pompano Beach, FL — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:07:42 GMT

I do NOT care what Fox says...I don't care what MSNBC says about this or CNN...THIS endorsement is the single biggest thing to happen to Obama in his entire bid for the White House. I do not think Obama will make it in the end...I would be stunned -- but I will say this....my own mother, who has been the biggest Hillary Supporter in So. Florida is now mulling all this over. I called her this morning at work just to talk about it. No matter what happens going forward...this is gigantic news to and for the Democratic Party.

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Fit to be tired... — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:10:25 GMT

Lynette must be wearing blinders. How many times have we relished the idea of what America wants and many conclude; it is not Hillary?

Let me tell you what's going on here...
Hillary assisted in running this country while Bill was running around with women and now he feels since she was so key at that time, that she would be great now. SO at all cost, he is trying to ensure she wins.

He did the same crap in Arkansas as Govenor, women after women. The last Clinton presidency spilled into the Bush presidency, but since Bush has been so focused on the war, that debacle was clearly missed, so it seems to be all Bush's fault. Give me a break!

Balanced the budget, so what does that mean? What was sacrificed, teachers pay, we didn't get programs for our children to prevent juvenile delinquency, crime was still on the rise, police officers and firemen didn't benefit, WHAT ABOUT THE PUBLIC SERVANTS WHO HELP TO RUN THIS COUNTRY? Oh yeah! Brought us NAFTA and shipped our jobs overseas, wow...now that's a Clinton blunder, putting many out of work. Trade deals that were a catastrophe and no accountability in the deal, so now we have poisioned toys for our children. Oh wait...maybe the deal was made in the middle of one of the affairs. That explains it then! Not to mention, this awful healthcare plan. That's all she talks about, with all of her experience, why are we still talking about this damn healthcare with all of her experience and influence? Why was it not realized when he (or they) were president at that time?

OooHHH! Only for Bill to admit Hillary assisted in making decisions during his presidency would show how incompetent he really is and it really make his candicacy look more of a joke; aside the affairs and scandals.

The more you look at it, that era was a circus and the decisions made, evidently by both were not that great. So this is why I say the American people deserve better and we need to move ON.

This is different times and we need change for ourselves and A BRIGHTER future for our Families. The "experienced" has made some costly errors, but want the public to overlook the obvious.

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Rusty, NYC, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:10:33 GMT

I think that it is just horrible how MSNBC has become the network of Obama. If you click on the MSNBC TV link from the MSNBC page and then go to the Abrahms page to send him an email, then send him an email and look at the top of the banner page.... an ad for Obama. It would just seem that a news organization should stay away from posting presedential ads.

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Ron, California — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:10:47 GMT

Antoin "Tony" Rezko was arrested early Monday at his Wilmette home by federal agents on an alleged bond violation, the Tribune has learned.

Investigators had in recent weeks become concerned about the movement of some of his finances, a source said.

Rezko, who is scheduled to stand trial on corruption charges in less than a month, was in the courtroom of U.S. District Judge Amy St. Eve, his trial judge, at 8:35 a.m. He could be seen at a defense table going over papers with his lawyer, Joseph Duffy. A jury is to be selected at Dirksen U.S. Courthouse to hear his case beginning Feb. 25.

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Tim, Colorado Springs, Co — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:11:45 GMT

I'm really amazed how you folks are downing Clinton for trying to make Florida 'count' when it would appear to be more of a severe issue to the Floridians who have been told by the DNC that their votes don't count? I'm certainly not for Clinton, however, I believe that it says something when she stayed on the ballots in both Michigan 'and' Florida knowing that they didn't count and Obama and Edwards removed themselves. By removing themselves from these ballots and not even suggesting that foul play is there, who is truly their first consideration? The DNC, their politics, their own ambitions? It certainly isn't the people of Florida and/or Michigan! Doesn't this say something to any of you?

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Steve, Olney MD — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:16:06 GMT

"The thing about a Kennedy endorsement is that once he's in, HE'S ALL IN. Ask Al Gore or John Kerry..."

Did not see either of those 2 guys win the White House.

But seriously, Ted urged Obama to run from the beginning -- the fact that he had to jump into the race after staying neutral is that he realizes that Obama is having real problems in a couple of critical demographics in the Democratic party. African Americans + Affluent Liberals does not equal a win in November. Lets see how much weight Ted can bring.

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MK,MO — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:17:11 GMT

all the bickering back and forth about clinton and obama is priceless, these two candidate have divided the democratic party to the point neither can possibly win the general election, john edwards is the only hope for unity and victory for the dems in 08, time to dump the flashy novelty candidates and their tabloid quality campaigns and back the only dem that can win the general election, edwards

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Sherri, Charleston WV — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:18:46 GMT

If Barak Obama wins a big % of Super Tuesday, I think all the Reblub candidates are gonna wake up to their worst nightmare. THey thump Billary every chance they get at debate and microphone, but I'm guessing they will be dumbfounded when Obama looms over their paltry horizon.

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Rhonda — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:22:14 GMT

Doesn't anybody realize that a big 'ol liberal endorsement from Ted Kennedy is the WORST thing that could happen for Obama in the general election? Republicans love this...and I think the Clintons do as well. Hillary is my first choice...by the way.

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Randell Martin, Cedarberg Ohio — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:22:35 GMT

[[Mr. Kennedy called Mr. Clinton Sunday to tell him of his decision.” Did we read that correctly? Ted Kennedy called Bill Clinton -- and not Hillary -- to tell him of the decision?]]

Ted obviously knows who is in charge.

If Hillary wins in November, this is how things will operate. Hillary would be "President" in name only. She'd get to sit in the Oval Office, not that she'd want to, lots of bad memories of Bill's activities in that office, and she'd get to make a few appointments and annoucements. The REAL President though would be Bill.

It would be a real embarrassment to the office to watch these two operate, and also a terrible thing for the country to have to endure.

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Crystal — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:22:57 GMT

Dominic Iacopino, Brick, NJ (Sent Monday, January 28, 2008 10:26 AM)

Dominic, take a deep breath, all that ranting and raving has to have you tired. Endorsements for Obama from Washington insiders are signals that they are ready to change the ways in Washington as well, signals that they are tired of the same old style of politics, it is a very, very good thing for Obama, a great thing. And I am sure you would have been equally pleased if he endorsed the candidate of choice. The endorsements he recieved signal that he is the candidate of change and unity, more than anything else!!!

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Kevin B, PA — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:23:23 GMT

If any Hillary supporter doesn't understand why many of us left wing independents can't and won't vote for Hillary, maybe you should read this article by Ralph Nader. It is rumored he will be willing to make an independent run if Hillary is nominated.

http://nader.org/index.php?/archives/1251-Eight-More-Years.html

Think about it, if Hillary is nominated you have the potential of drawing in 2 other independents that will be attractive to democratic voters, Nader (Far left voters) and Bloomberg (Moderate Democrats). Bloomberg may pull a few votes away from the GOP candidate but with Hillary in the race they will more then likely unify against her and fully back the GOP candidate.

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Andy — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:25:17 GMT

I am getting really annoyed with people saying that Obama can't win the general election because he's black. That is complete and total crap. Anyone who would not vote for an African American for President WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR A DEMOCRAT no matter who it is. If you think the bigot vote means Obama can't win, then none of the democrats will. Seriously, you think Hillary, who is probably the most hated national political figure since Richard Nixon, actually has a better chance?
And as far as experience goes (for those of you who aren't just using that as a veiled racial excuse), keep in mind that three of the best Presidents of the twentieth century had little experience in elected office.
They are:
FDR- Served two years in NY state house and four years as Governor of New York. So he had less experience than Obama.
Woodrow Wilson- Served two years as Governor of New Jersey. That's it. Way less experience than Obama has.
Teddy Roosevelt- One year as assistant secretary of the Navy, one year a Governor of New York, and six months as Vice President before McKinley was assassinated. One of our greatest Presidents ever, Teddy had just over half the experience when he assumed office than Obama has today.

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Blake, Durham, NC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:25:56 GMT

intersting that you criticize MSNBC for over reporting Obama - it shows your true allegiance. Why not complain about every move the Clintons make as a brilliant political move. Pat Buchannan's bias is so vivid it is ridiculous that they refer to him as an analyst.

By the way, why is Obama's endorsements hit with criticism when Hilllary was endorsed and ordained long ago by many. There are people who landed on her team on day one and will not waiver inspite of things she does.

Finally, as for Katherine Kennedy's endorsement, she is entitled. She has know he woman for 25 years. I would have been more surprised if she did not endorse Hillary. the reason that Ted and Caroline's endorsement is so BIG is what now brings to the Obama camp vs what other family members bring to Hillary's camp.

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AJ, Middletown, Ohio — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:26:13 GMT

It's amazing to me how everyone (media,pundits,society etc) refers to the "race card" as being the sole source of victory for Sen. Obama in SC. Being a Black person myself, I saw promise in Sen. Obama when he spoke for the DNC in 2004. What drew me to him wasn't that he was Black, but his message, his ideals, and what he stands for as a candidate is truly comparable to my own ideals. He has the ability to engage, uplift, encourage, and inspire the American people and potentially ignite a new movement in Politics. Could it be that the people in South Carolina responded to Sen. Obama in the same manner as I did? Could it be that they truly saw him as the better candidate? Were the people of Iowa also guilty of playing the "race card"? I think not. Sen. Obama has a wide appeal among all Americans, and we should not criticize any group of people for using their democratic rights as U.S. citizens and voting for the best candidate-Sen. Obama.

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VoteHillary — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:28:29 GMT

Obama says we don't need the "same old folks, doing the same old thing," yet he's proud to stand up with Ted Kennedy, one of those same old folks, who do the same old thing. Obama is speaking out of both sides of his mouth. Just like Hillary and everyone else who's running, he's a politician who will do and say anything to win. Obama supporters need to stop drinking the Kool-Aid.

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Bob, NY, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:29:04 GMT

Ted Kennedy and John Kerry: Talk about Washington to the core and liberals and lobbyists best friends. If Obama wants to surround himself with people like this how can he call himself a moderate that can appeal to all types of people and an outsider? Give me a break.

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Don, Columbus, Ohio — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:34:54 GMT

Although I prefer Obama to Hillary, Please understand that to compare him with Kennedy will result in his loss in November. Kennedy who had little foreign experience blew th Bay of Pigs, Came with in a day of nuclear war over Cuba, entertained two call girls in the White House Swimming pool and was screwing a well known Mob girl. He lied about the extent of his illnesses and was going to lose the next election and that was why he was on a campaign trio to Dallas. I'm sorry he was killed, but you can't forget his history.
Obama will lose to McCain due to his lack of experience.

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CJ — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:35:03 GMT

Some of you guys say you are democrats but your racially tinged comments and lack of open minded thinking makes me wonder. Hillary and Obamas positions are very identical and her "experience" is a falsehood. Being the wife of a former president and a few years in the Senate doesn't give her "experience" over Obama. Plus she clearly lacks the same judgement capacity....why else would she allow the lies and attacks that hurt her in SC.

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James Brown , Eugene , Oregon — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:35:25 GMT

Just type into the google search bar ( Hillary Clinton Scandals ) And you can read for days about what Clinton has to offer this country.

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Ron, California — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:36:23 GMT

Another of Sen. Kennedy's nieces, former Maryland Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend, issued a statement Sunday in support of Clinton.

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Lynette, NYC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:37:03 GMT

Your are 100% right Dominick from Brick.

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Dazed and Confused in DC — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:37:35 GMT

By the way: what about the fact that Saint Barack has had a number of fundraisers in Florida since he took the pledge and the fact that his national cable tv commercials are running in Florida? I know, I know---shhhh, we here at MSNBC don't want people hearing anything bad about Saint Barack.

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Rick,ky — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:38:54 GMT

I find it amusing, that all these poster's slamming MSNBC, post on this site.If you're looking for Pro-Hillary, just tune into Clinton News Network (CNN).Personally, I surf thru all the cable network's to see what all of them have to say about the Candidates.What I find encouraging is Laura Ingram's fascination with Barack.While watching CNN, everytime, a commentator has something Positive to say about Barack, Wolf & Anderson Cooper, usually come back with a (But)& immetiately try to turn it back to Hillary.
Michigan & Florida voter's have No one to blame but the People They elected to their respective State legislatures.They are ones that decided to change the rules in the middle of the game, after agreeing with the DNC &RNC about the schedule of primary voting.I'd suggest that you contact you're local Representative& voice you're Displeasure with them.

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Jeff, Portland, OR — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:39:28 GMT

The funney thing about all these endorsments are (and I think Clinton supporters and Obama supporters will agree) that if say Ted Kennedy endorsed Clinton then Obama supporters would be bring down Kennedy and Clinton supporters would be saying what a great endorsment it is.

We have the same partisan people on these posts arguing the same people and saying the same thing all in the name of building up their candidate and tearing down the other, and ratioinality has no part in any of it.

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Mark, Cleveland, Ohio — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:40:55 GMT

To Sarah:

"Joe Scarborough and MSNBC are trying to deminish the Rezko arrest and his relationship with Obama..."

If Rezko is the best the Hillary campaign can come up with, then that's good reason for Obama to celebrate. Rezko--as it turns out--was a slime. As an junior attorney at a firm that represented Rezko's business interests, Obama did about 5 hours of legal work for him. He bought some real estate from Rezko, a land developer, years later. At no point has anyone accused Obama of doing anything illegal, and this is after these accusations have been about for a year.

Does Hillary really want to be raising questions about shady dealings/associates? How about her questionable investments in cattle futures? The indictments of her hand-picked legal staff in the White House? Her campaign manager, Sandy Berger, stealing documents from the National Archives (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A4189-2004Jul21.html), the firing of the White House Travel Office staff, etc.

Hillary's been through all of these allegations before, but never as a candidate for the Presidency. Many of these are still big question marks. Add to that tough criticisms of her bungled attempt at health care reform, her flip-flopping record on Iraq, questions about Bill Clinton's potential role in the White House (will he be a Cheney-esque shadow co-president?), and suddenly the "REZKO SCANDAL" is looking like a molehill next to a mountain of political corruption.

If I were Barack Obama, I'd say "bring it on."

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Marc, NY, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:41:19 GMT

Clan leader Ted Kennedy and sole JFK scion Carolyn have rejected Hill and Bill's cynical ploys and racially divisive tactics. Memo to Hill's supporters: voters (Independent voters included, such as myself) don't want to hear from Bill any longer. Hillary has to stand on her own 2 feet. Enough of using Bill as a crutch. Comes across as pathetic and weak.

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Ron Jeffers, Arizona Independent — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:41:44 GMT

So Ms. Kennedy.....a white woman from New York.....endorses Barack Obama. Very telling.

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Fit to be tired... — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:46:11 GMT

Tim, I don't understand what you are saying. The rules were decided by everyone (including Hillary) in the beginning, so everyone agreed to these rules, but now it's a problem for the Clintons.
The state decided to not apply with the rules, so there was a penalty. The votes will still count, but the delegates will not be seated. She is fighting for the delegates, not for voter suppression, which she did in NV.
Maybe I missed something.

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CJ — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:46:23 GMT

Why are you guys counting BILL's presidency towards Hillary. That is WRONG...that is NOT her experience. You are freely admitting you wish to see BILL running the show with Hillary as his frontman..which is what WILL happen. Democrats...get it together..do what's right. Stop this Clinton nonsense and stand up for principles. Bill is the PAST...his wife is running off of HIS accomplishments. That is not acceptible for me and many other Democrats. If Obama wasn't black...I wonder how many of you would be so ardently detesting his candidacy..talking about voting Republican (pro-war, pro-constitutional prejudice, pro-wall street economy). That shows your true colors.

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J of ARK — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:46:52 GMT

MSNBC has become a mouth piece for Obama and his supporters - daily, they pound on Hillary, while Obama skates free in thier la-la land reality warp. I have given up on this website and the newtwork to present anything that looks balanced - FOX?

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mike — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:48:16 GMT

Is this the the future that Obama is talking about? bringing in Ted Kennedy and Kerry.

Wow! I think this is definitely a sham!

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Nashville_fan — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:51:09 GMT

Marjorie, Tallahassee, FL wrote:

"Did Barack H. Obama show any signs of unity when all the blacks voted for him -- oh, do ya think it was because he maybe was black -- or at least half black. "

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I had typed a response, but I'm still on a South Carolina high, so I'm gonna just let your post speak for itself! :)

Obama '08

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mac, st. louis, mo — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:52:06 GMT

Enough already - neither side nor any candidate has the "righ" endorsement - the PEOPLE will speak and then we will know. Enough already, with the race/gender/expereince baiting - Americans have a brain and can decide without the negative comments.

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Joe Shimandle — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:52:10 GMT

To Hillary- get a clue. All the Republican voters hate you and so do half the Democrat voters.

Why did you think you stood a chance.

The good news is when you lose, then you and Bill will be out the lime light forever and we won't have to listen to all your lies any more.

What do you say? About 1 yaer to divorce Bill now that you don't need him anymore.

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stilltiredofignorance MN — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:35:53 GMT

The reason that the Kennedy endorsement of Obama is important is MONEY? Don't any of you understand that? All Caroline Kennedy has to do is show up at a fundraiser and Senator Obama is going to raise huge amounts of money. And Senator Kennedy has the ability to raise lots of money too.

Sierra, with respect...understand your passion, but your posts are too long. I don't read them. Can you be pithy?

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Marc, NY, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:38:27 GMT

NEWSFLASH: Hillary Clinton to receive Bill Clinton's endorsement for the presidency. Congrats Hillary!!!! No stopping you now......

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Marjorie, Tallahassee, FL — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:40:34 GMT

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Marc, NY, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:40:40 GMT

NEWSFLASH: Hillary Clinton to receive the endorsement of Dolly, the cloned sheep. awesome.

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ingrid erin tn — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:42:27 GMT

ahhhh good old ted the one drive drunk girl dies save my butt call layer?good husband wife ends up drinking.good uncle out drinking nep.ends up in court for rape?then there is caroline the same one kissy.kissy with the clintons?brother dies clinton send out navy to find his body what a thank you and so verry classy. and there was good old jackie in bed whit onassis pyout 20 mill. boy and now on the obama trail.you guys are bejond white trash.first family my ass. go hillary ignore those idiots hmmm all for obama are there afraid off youits better to contr. windbag ob

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Independent in CA — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:48:24 GMT

What will the penalty be for HRC going to Florida "because she cares"? PLEASE! She was perfectly happy to try to disinfranchise the voters on the las Vegas Strip with her bogus law suit after Obama won the support of the Culinary workers.

I feel The Clintons will say and do ANYTHING to win this nomination no matter what it costs in divisiveness or bad feelings in the party. After watching them Since Iowa - there is no way in hell I would ever vote for her no matter who else is on the ballot in the fall. I will not reward this kind of behavior ever.

I am in Independent in California - and I will vote for Obama. I have never voted in a Primary in my life - but I will not be missing this one!

What the Democratic Party needs to look at is how much damage have the Clinton's done as far as the fall vote. Remember there is a writers strike and people HAVE been watching! I keep hearing news people say no one in California has tuned in yet - news flash everyone at my job is aware of and knows what's going on, friends call allthe time with political news - and I have had more long distance phone calls with friends about this election - than just to say hi.

I have talked to friends who are Republicans who are voting for Obama. I have not talked to one person who is a Republican who will be voting for Hillary. If it's not happening in the Primary it won't happen in the fall.

When I first started watching coverage I was neutral - I liked HRC - but the antics of Billary over the last month have disgusted me and made me wonder if Bill has a terminal disease the way they are shamelessly going after this nomination.

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G. Mary White — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:02:09 GMT

Did George H.W. Bush run the government for his son?? Maybe he should have!!!Why would Bill run it for Hillary??!! Hillary is a strong independent women, she can run the country without President Clinton.

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Brando, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:02:46 GMT

YOU FOOLS, Ted Kennedy = Status quo. He's the one who calls the shots in the DEM party. He's NOT saying to Barack "Atta boy", he's saying "I CAN get you the nomination QUICKLY, I.E the SUPERDELEGATES" in exchange for your administration, IT'S ALL BUSSINESS AS USUAL, IT'S THE OLD QUID PRO QUO. Now, the party OWNS you, Barack and you OWE them. YOU could've change, once and for all, the (WASHINGTON'S) rules but I guess you were better than that. What a shame, what a shame....INDEED

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Dave, Portland, Oregon — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:03:20 GMT

Yeah right, I am going to support Obama because of Teddy Kennedy. Not. Is it going to affect me supporting Hillary. Not. I think that I will stick with my boy Edwards despite this new endorsement. Most endorsements in my opinion are silly. Just my opinion anyways...and it probably silly as well.

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Ellis B. Kingman, Az. — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:06:14 GMT

"Ted Kennedy called Bill (not Hillary) to tell him he was supporting Obama?".. There you go, I said from the start Hillary's campaign was more about a mission for 'president by proxy' than Hillary. Just look at who was setting the agenda and pulling the strings in South Carolina. Although Bill Clinton is a master manipulator, a master of spin and redefining words he was not smart enough to realize you cannot fool all of the people all of the time. Now the Clinton campaign is saying they are going to try to present Bill in less harsh supportive role. "Will the real Clintons please stand up?" We have seen the authoritive presidential Hillary, the softer Hillary, the emotional Hillary, the experienced Hillary and the subordinate puppet wife Hillary. But which Hillary will show up on day one? Enough of the Bushs and Clintons, R.I.P

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Marc, NY, NY — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:12:16 GMT

NEWSFLASH: Hillary receives endorsement of Ren and Stimpy. sweet.

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roca — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:12:57 GMT

Women for Hillary? The women I know, (D), (R), and (I) support Sen. Obama or McCain, not HC. I'd love to see a woman in the White House, but Hillary is not the right woman and I won't throw my vote so frivolously. I'm white, 50, female, and an Obama supporter; so much for a demographic voting group.

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Casey Atbat, Mudville — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:14:17 GMT

All is most certainly not well in Mudville, nor in the self-destructive Democrat "Party"....

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Meera26 — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:23:47 GMT

I am honestly fed up of both Clinton and Obama. I think they were both wrong to play the race card (Clinton through her husband and Obama with his "Not that I'm balck, but I'm black" statements in his campaign speeches and even in the SC victory speech). However, I feel the media is very biased in this case. The news favorable to Obama is played up ten-fold compared to the news for Clinton.

And seriously, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Tom Daschle are sooooooo yesterday. Their endorsements will make no difference to the vast majority of Democratic voters. But, it is fodder for the general election and has the distinct possibility of deterring Republican voters who may cross over in the general election, if used in an ad.

The Democrats need to stick to the issues and the personal barbs are gettign out of hand. For those who say it is all Mrs. Clinton, get your facts straight.

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Class Warior, D.C. — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:23:59 GMT

First of all, I want to remind all you memory-impaired people that you once hotly accused msnbc of being pro-Hillary propoganda---NOW, it's a pro-Obama bias! For myself, the only way I'd vote for Hillary is that Bill is obviously intending to be the next president, using Hil as a mouthpiece the way Nancy and her sycophants used Ronnie Reagan. But, no such luck...Hil will muzzle Bill. That being so---plus the fact that so many people hate Hillary like death, and HIl has skeletons that the Clinton-haters can dig up and use to crush her candidacy in the General---I'm going with Obama in my state's primary. I truly believe he has a better chance of beating whatever fool the Repubs run. So, I think Kennedy is just good at reading the political tea leaves, and that's why he endorsed Obama---he knows when to go with a winner!

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American Voter — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:45:25 GMT

Who cares.

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Kym — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:04:01 GMT

To Hillary- get a clue. All the Republican voters hate you and so do half the Democrat voters.

Joe Shimandle (Sent Monday, January 28, 2008 11:52 AM)

Joe, I agree. I really don't understand Clinton supporters, I would frankly be embaressed that in Michigan, over 200,000 people (40%), got in there car or took time out of there day to vote UNCOMMITTED, when the only top candidate on the ballot was her. That is a tell tell time that it will not be good for her in November.

First thoughts: Ted Kennedy is all in

Lance — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 19:09:00 GMT

If you don't feel the magic behind Obama then you must be numb to emotion. He's got the momentum behind him now in a very serious way. Even if he ends up with slightly less delegates then the Clinton machine he has the charisma and polish that will give him the winning edge.

If you watched the MSNBC GOP debate the other night you would of noticed how many times the Clinton name was invoked. Why is that? Simply because they are praying HRC wins the Democratic nomination. They want to run against the Clintons because that's the only chance the GOP has of a victory in the general election.

First thoughts: Ted Kennedy is all in

Landon, Kansas City, Missouri — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:59:26 GMT

I try to avoid going with the crowd. I shy away from the latest fads. So when people make appeals for us not to get caught up in the hype of Barrack Obama, I am all ears. But after watching debate after debate, speech after speech, I have no choice but to get on the bandwagon. All I can say, is that I can't remember a politician who has done a better job of convincing Americans that we can and should fight for a better country.

Obama's detractors have dubbed him as nothing more than a great orator who speaks in rhetoric. I have listened to countless eloquent speakers, and an overwhelming number of politicians who just spew rhetoric. And very few of them have been able to evoke the feeling of hope that he does. His rhetoric (if you must call it that) is consistent with the vision of America that we so proudly profess to the rest of the world. My question is, why aren't more candidates professing it to us?

I am sensing a trend here though. Obama talks about change, cynics call it rhetoric, people respond positively to the message, the republican and democratic candidates start talking about change, it's no longer rhetoric. Obama talks about bringing people together, rhetoric, people respond, candidates follow suit, no more rhetoric. I think he should just change is message to "Vote for Obama", pretty soon the other candidates should come around.

First thoughts: Ted Kennedy is all in

JT, Dallas — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 23:16:45 GMT

I just saw on "bowtie" oops, I mean Tucker Carlson that some in the Obama camp are saying there may be a spot in Obama's cabinet for John Edwards as Attorney General. That kinda sounds like back room politics as usual to me if there is deal being made for delegates. So much for changing washington!

First thoughts: Ted Kennedy is all in

P. Walker, Memphis, TN — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 00:04:20 GMT

Whenever I stop and consider the campaign for the democratic nomination for President and the Hillary campaign specifically in historical terms, I am not reminded of her as the first lady campaigning for the Presidency.
Instead, I am reminded of Bob Dole.
The party stalwart.
The man who waited for "his turn" to carry the party banner.
This is the Hillary campaign.
Its entire premise seems based upon a deep sense of entitlement to the nomination and indeed the office.
Entitled because she devoted her life to being on the assistant side of a 2 for 1.
Entitled because it is her turn and how dare this other guy, who is the same age as Bill was when he ran in '92 dare to deny her ascendancy.
Entitled because of her gender and how powerful it is for so many ladies in our society who have waited & dreamed of a time when another could actually have a real shot at the job, only to be faced with the reality of the candidates and being torn between their heart with Hillary and their heads & very soul with Barack who reminds them of their hopes & dreams shot dead.
Twice.
It matters not if you are a Hillary or Obama; lover, basher, hater or nurturer.
What matters in the end.
In the final analysis.
Is who do we entrust the Office of President of the United States?
For me, the answer is found in not with the person I agree with most or who is most entitled.
Or with the person who is most like me.
Or who, walk, talks, acts, is educated or has a history like mine.
The answer, for me is found in which candidate has the; courage, confidence, candor & commitment to do the very best for every citizen in protecting our national security and our rights as citizens of this great nation as best as they know how every day and in every way.
That candidate for me is Barack Obama.

First thoughts: Ted Kennedy is all in

Ivory Dayton, OH — Tue, 29 Jan 2008 04:38:49 GMT

President Bush's legacy a wasted 8 yrs and a unfinished agenda. Hail and Farewell.