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jef — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:08:20 GMT

AFSCME - McEntee Calls on Democrats to Seat Florida Delegates

http://www.afscme.org/press/17528.cfm

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M Cohen Westchester County NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:08:23 GMT

What is most important here is that almost 260,000 Florida voters chose Clinton over Obama. She even got more votes than John McCain and considering the fact that the primary doesn't count, that says something. John Kerrey is a loser. If he won Florida, we wouldn't be in the mess we are in today!

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DCortez, Houston, Texas — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:08:38 GMT

Just when you thought the Clintons couldn't be bigger scumbags...

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Mike K, Denver — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:09:00 GMT

It's a load of crap for Hillary to even THINK about wanting the rules changed now that it helps her. She did the same thing in Michigan not taking her name off the ballot. She did the same thing with the lawsuit filed basically on her behalf by the teacher's union in Nevada. She can't handle not getting things her way. Don't we already have a President who acts like a spoiled little child when he doesn't get his way? Do we really want another?

Michigan and Florida didn't want to play by the rules clearly established by the DNC. They got punished. Hillary needs to not be pissed at the DNC. She needs to be pissed at these two states. The other candidates and the DNC need to be pissed at her for the tactics she's been using of late to try and change the rules of the game so late. It's unbecoming of a potential President.

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Char Gallager, Viginia Beach VA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:09:36 GMT

The woman is certifiably nuts. She won unopposed. It's kind of like a kid that wins a medal in the Special Olympics. Everybody feels good, but it doesn't mean anything.

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Lisa, Massachusetts — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:11:34 GMT

There is something seriously wrong with the DNC to have allowed this to happen. Who thought it would be a good idea to disenfranchise 2 whole states! They should have done what the Republicans did and just cut the delegate count in half. Then all the candidates would have campaigned and the results would not be tainted. They will deserve it if Clinton loses to McCain in November.

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DC Metro Area Democrat — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:13:10 GMT

The final comment captures the sentiment perfectly: Sen. Clinton is trying to change the rules of the game mid-stream. Unfortunately, Sen. Clinton's team continues to make moves that present her as a disingenuous candidate. These types of moves do not appeal to me as a voter, and make me more and more disenchanted with Sen. Clinton's campaign.

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joshua bradshaw, billings montana — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:13:13 GMT

The simple fact is that hillary won and they lost. this is different from michigan because all three were on the ballot. This is a touching subject and i would advise Obama not to continue to say that florida did not count, because in that statement he is disenfranchising floridians. That is wrong to do. Now they will claim that hillary tried to change the rules, but it was obama that got a ad buy that aired in florida. His supporters say well you can not get national ad buys with out airing in florida. To that i say that he then should have waited to get the adbuy. He was the first to break the pledge, and now that He recieved a strong rebuke from florida he will now say that they do not count. Well perhaps all he need to do to know that they do count is talk to President Gore about 2000

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russell lee — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:14:48 GMT

Gulianna's sole claim to fame was giving NY police license to kill by which means crime in NY was cut down to reasonable size and talking on and on and on about 9/11.

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MG, St. Louis, Mo. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:16:09 GMT

I'm watching Hillary Clinton's self proclaimed victory speech in Florida and I have to tell you the women sounds a bit looney and looks altogether desperate. This doean't bode well for someone who wants to be president. Has the hugh South Carolina primary loss she sustained made her loose complete sanity. Think hard about what she is doing here. I don't know if I can vote for her anymore. She has always had the reputation that she will say and do anything to win and this sad desperate display tonight is really unsettling.

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Ben, Boston, MA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:17:00 GMT

Clinton was the only candidate to step foot in South Carolina and yet Obama won South Carolina by a significantly wider margin. I think it tells you something when half of the Democrats in a closed primary won't vote for Clinton even though she was the only one there.

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DCortez, Houston, Texas — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:17:40 GMT

It's called following the party rules Lisa.

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Rob in CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:17:53 GMT

No one should be naive about this whole issue of seating the FL delegates at the convention. The Democratic Party is not going to insult the state of FL 2 months before the most important election in a generation! They'll seat the delegates, as well as the ones from Michigan, because the Democrats cannot toss away the electoral votes from either of those states in November.

In addition, no one can ignore the very fact that so many Democrats came out to vote in this primary, delegates or no delegates!!! Their votes MATTER, and all three top Democratic candidates were ON THE BALLOT today. Floridians are not on Mars... they know these candidates as well as anyone else in the country... the read... they watch TV... they didn't go off and vote without knowing who Obama and Edwards were. They voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Clinton, and they did it for a reason: they want her to be the next President.

Watch the returns a week from tonight. Hillary is going to win most of the states that vote next week. The only way Obama will be able to stop her from being the nominee is very clear now: he will have to cut a backroom deal with John Edwards to get his delegates to switch over to him.

Oh, I forgot... Obama is not THAT kind of politician. He wouldn't do such a thing as make a backroom deal to win.

Nope. Not Barack.

Nope.

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J. Fisher, Detroit, MI — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:18:41 GMT

This is crazy. Many people will stay at home in November if Billary wins because the rules are changed mid-stream. Florida doesn't count. It doesn't matter. A win in Florida, a state where Barack did not compete and Billary broke the spirit of the pledge not to campaign, does not break compare to a thumping in South Carolina

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Lo in OR — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:19:00 GMT

Of course she does... it's easy to claim victory when you go back on a pledge that was decided long before. It's the only way she can take a state. Cheating. Oh wait!.. That is the Clinton credo!

Her next plan of attack..is to try and get the delegates to count..

Before you Hillary supporters try saying that Obama campaigned there first with 'national ads'.. Even Hillary isn't spinning that one anymore. National ads are just that...National..you can't pick and choose which states to advertise in.

And before you Floridians start saying that you have a right for your vote to count... they do...just not the delegates...So sorry... your state should have stayed with the Feb 5th super tuesday caucus.

Hillary seems to think she is above the DNC decisions. What color is the sky in her world??

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Mark Leonard, Pittsburgh — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:19:11 GMT

The woman is certifiably nuts. She won unopposed. It's kind of like a kid that wins a medal in the Special Olympics. Everybody feels good, but it doesn't mean anything.

Char Gallager, Viginia Beach VA (Sent Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:09 PM)

It does appear that Hillary rides the short bus.

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Al, L.A., Ca. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:19:19 GMT

What Clinton is not saying is that she agreed to the Michigan and Florida rules. why is she now saying she wants all votes to count. She agreed to the rules and now she is desperate so she wants to change them mid game. Also isn't this the candidate that wanted to take votes away from voters in Nevada when she thought she was at a disadvantage. How transparent the Clintons are. Hasn't American been fooled enough.

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university park, md — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:19:38 GMT

is the lady that desperate?

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campdog — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:19:39 GMT

No body asked the people that vote in Florida or Michigan if they agreed with the rule. Since when do political parties punish voters for wanting their voices to be heard.

Say what you want but the people are overwhelmingly in favor of allowing Florida and Michigan their rightful places at the table. This issue will be negociated and settled and to think otherwise is absurd.

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Jim Frego, Grants Pass, OR Capt. US Army (ret.) — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:20:22 GMT

Bill Bennett a talking head on CNN tonight call the Democratic Race in Florida an "AMBUSH"!
Please send Emails to info@heritage.org so they and Bill learn what an AMBUSH is.

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S. Weston, Cincinnati, OH — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:20:45 GMT

WTF!!!!! I can't believe the unabashed power play - this is truly disgusting.... more divisiveness, more unscrupulousness - ALL FEB. 5TH STATES PLEASE REJECT THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN!!!!!!!! - at least get it here to Ohio where we will get the victory for Obama!!

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Rob in CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:20:50 GMT

Char Gallager... are YOU nuts??? Hillary did NOT run unopposed in FL. Obama and Edwards were on the ballot. Indeed, Obama's national cable TV ads aired in FL, and no one else had TV ads in the state. So one could argue that the only one who "campaigned" in the state was Obama, because he was the only one who had TV ads running there. But of course you Obama fanatics think that doesn't count. It only counts that Hillary slammed him in the vote today, and you don't like it. Well, get used to it. You're gonna be in for a big shocker one week from now, too.

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Janet Davies, South Bend IN — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:20:56 GMT

Just when you think the Clintoons can't come up with anything more ghastly, they do this. SNL couldn't write better material.

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Travis Fritsche, West New York, NJ — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:21:16 GMT

MSNBC, please report and not editorialize. Your blatant hatred of Hilary Clinton is disgusting. All of the democratic candidates held fundraisers in Florida. Your article that states "Still, Clinton winked at that pledge, holding two closed fundraisers in recent days and scheduling a rally with supporters after the polls closed in Florida," makes it sound like she was breaking the rules and all of the other candidates followed the rules. The rules specifically stated that the candidates could hold fundraisers. You have made your reporting so slanted towards Obama, that I do not think I can view your website any longer. I used to love your articles, but you need to rename your website Wewilldoeverythinginourpower,evenmakeupthenews,soObamawillbepresident.com instead of msnbc.com.

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m Cohen Westchester County NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:21:54 GMT

Sorry guys--even if this is just a beauty contest, Clinton has almost 300,000 more votes. That means 300,000 more people prefer her to Obama. How can than not mean anything? Even Donna Brazile who was just on CNN says it is a big moral boost for Clinton. The way you people talk it seems as if you think she was pulling the lever in the voting booth. I can assure you if she had won only by a little bit, the Obama people would be spinning this. Florida has demographics much closer to the BIG states on Super Tuesday. February 5th is just around the corner! GO HILLARY!

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Jordon, Springfield IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:22:00 GMT

What's the matter Hillary, starving for a little attention?

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Zina, Las Vegas, NV — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:23:35 GMT

It's clear that the white voter support of Hillary in FL will NOT be questioned like the African-American support of Obama in SC.

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Nathan Hale, Washington, DC — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:23:48 GMT

Hillary should read the polls - the people who made up their minds in the past month voted for Obama. When people pay attention to the race, they choose Obama. On to Super Tuesday.

HRC can take some consolation that a lot of CA voters have already voted absentee and that she won those voters 53-30.

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Nick Johnson, San Anselmo, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:24:01 GMT

hey come on. everybody knew that this primary season was getting crazy. somebody had to say enuf is enuf. be the grown ups if you will. how many Dems stayed home because the vote didn't translate into delegates? it's totally unrepresentative and undemocratic to "count it now"

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:25:20 GMT

Just heard something interesting on the news. Clinton won big in the early voting, but tonight's vote was actually much closer than polling.

Not that it matters. For anyone who wants to look at this objectively, Clinton started off with something that could be called an organization in Florida through previous contacts. Obama didn't have this. Campaigning is more than rallies - we didn't get to see a head-to-head competition of organizational abilities, in which Obama has thus far been able to cut significantly in some states and even overcome in others huge initial leads for Clinton.

There was an unofficial shadow group - Florida for Hillary. It wasn't affiliated with the Clinton campaign officially, but it clearly was operating where I don't believe Obama had any such group.

And still there's indications that Clinton's campaign was involved in Florida - most notably from reports that they were scoping out rally sites in Miami, though never pulled the trigger on that one. But then all the references to the state by Clinton and her surrogates over the past week.

And clearly someone provided all the signs and stuff for the non-campaign victory party.

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Campdog — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:25:27 GMT

"It's kind of like a kid that wins a medal in the Special Olympics. Everybody feels good, but it doesn't mean anything."

Except to the kid that won......

Everyone was on the ballot....people voted for their choice. And while the majority may have voted for a person that is not your choice, there is no denying the fact that Clinton won. Forget the delegates and the spin....she won.

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Rick LoveaLL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:26:45 GMT

I am very P'd off about your coverage of your coverage of Hillary Clinton. I worked for Joan Finney (the First Deomcratic Gov) as her Legislative Rep) You guys are forgetting Al Gore. She will be the one that takes the nation forwoar. Save the earth but save America first. Please call me for details.Rick Loveall, Wichita, KS. 316/409-7500.

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Josh, Grand Rapids — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:27:46 GMT

She'll steal an election anyway she can. This disgusting sense of dynastic entitlement that drives her campaign is what keeps politics mired in cynicism. The Clintons don't fight fair and they never have, Obama comparable to Jesse Jackson? God help us if this woman gets the nomination. Especially considering the field of Republicans running...

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Clare Jackson, Kansas City KS — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:27:54 GMT

Forget all the loons Hillary, you'll get those delegates! Take it to court if you have to. You deserve everyone of those delegates at the convention. Just because Obama was to stupid not to campaign in Flordia doesn't mean you couldn't campaign there. Way to trick Obama by showing up at the last minute. The guy is a little dense and slow off the mark, if you know what I mean, and I know you do. And Bill is not a racist! And even if he is, so what, you are our Royality!!

Hillary '08

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SUZANNE — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:28:47 GMT

She is so pathetic, truly she has no shame.

I got a fundraising call from the DNC this evening . I told them I'd give the maximum if Barack Obama is the nominee. It's true, I will. But if it's Hillary, not one dime.

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Opa2 — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:28:52 GMT

Anybody who thinks those delegates are not going to be seated is out of his ever loving mind. As I said before, the DEMOCRATIC party is not going to write off Florida and Michigan in a close election. and despite of the huge advantage the democrats had earlier because they did not have to defend Bush, they are rapidly losing it with their stupid arguements. McCain is now the presumptive republican nominee and his reputation alone will make this a close one again. The democrats simply can not afford to write off those two states.

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Chip — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:29:38 GMT

The candidates agreed to abide by the rules and limits laid out by the DNC. They ALL pledged to this. However, in typical Clinton fashion, Hillary decided that she didn't like the rules any more because they didn't suit her purposes now. So, she just ignored them and then pretends that everyone else is wrong by abiding to them. This is so purely Clintonesque that I am sure even us non-politicos in rural America see it for what it is. She made an agreement and then lied about it and changed it after the fact. Now that might be a recommendation to some for presidential "experience" but for me, I have had it with this sort of thing. If you give your word on something, abide by it. If she can't abide by her word on this, what makes anyone out there think she is telling the truth in her campaign promises? Selective lying and rules adherence is what we don't need any more of....Dang, who is she using for campaign advice now? Alberto Gonzales???? Sad part is, she would use him or anybody else if she thought she could win. I like to win also, but if it means dropping to even lower standards for presidential conduct than we have now, I will not only accept defeat, but welcome it. If we Dems can't do any better than Hillary, good luck to McCain.

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Rob in CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:29:59 GMT

Clinton did run oppposed...She ran opposed obama and edwards. Check cnn!!

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OB Son — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:30:59 GMT

I guess you do these things if you are desperate for attention.

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Scorpio — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:32:59 GMT

The woman is certifiably nuts. She won unopposed. It's kind of like a kid that wins a medal in the Special Olympics. Everybody feels good, but it doesn't mean anything.
Char Gallager, Viginia Beach VA (Sent Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:09 PM)
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She’s a Scorpio. Almost every Scorpio I know are Liars, the blame others for their failures and celebrate even when the cheated

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Florida, New York, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:33:00 GMT

Hillary Clinton Floridians, do not realize when they are being used? If she was not leading in the polls, do you really believe that she would be down there fighting to make sure that your voices get heard? Hillary Clinton is so phony. She is down there pretending that she really cares about Floridians and its disgusting. The sad part is that you fools actually believe her. No wonder you guys allow the Republicans to win your state every year. You guys don't pay attention and are easily duped. How many of you fools voted for George Bush or did not vote at all the last two elections?

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Rick,ky — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:33:02 GMT

Howard Dean is The Man behind the DNC. Billary opperative Terry McCaulif, was booted Out as Chairman. Against the wishes of the Party, in 2006, Dean went with the Now forgotten 50 State strategy. Democrat's retook Both houses of Congress. You can Bet The Farm, he see's all this Red State Support for Barack.All 3 branches of Government Owned by the DEMOCRAT"S. Howard Dean is Not gonna let That pass-by.

Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, Then President Clinton. That's the Food Chain. Don't Forget It !!!!!!!

Barack Obama for President!!!

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Denise — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:33:38 GMT

OMG, how is Senator Obama going to explain this

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid353515028/bctid1396506113

This is unbelievable. I am in tears

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Jim — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:33:51 GMT

Clinton has ZERO Integrity , this Florida thing will hurt her just like her scum bag acts in SC did.

She is George Bush in a pant suit , opens her mouth and another Lie comes out.

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Danny Campbell, Michigan — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:34:47 GMT

I totally agree that the media is behaving with total bias against Hillary Clinton. I'm not one of conspiracy theories, but it has been so painfully obvious the last 2 weeks.

While there are no 'delegates' in Florida, it is wrong to disenfranchise over 2.5 million voters (more than all the prior states). Pundits (and some Clinton haters) are acting as though the voices of 'the people' don't matter. That's wrong and undermines democracy.

Obama's campaign has been less than 'gracious' these last few days, and it is not very attractive for someone running on a platform of 'hope', 'civility' and a 'new politic'.

Obama was the ONLY candidate to run ads in the state (as he did here in Michigan) with his sly deal with CNN (we can only run them nationally).

Finally, these 210 delegates mostly likely WILL be seated at the Dem Convention in Denver, so they "do" matter.

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Laura Jones, East St. Louis — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:34:52 GMT

Hillary and Bill are two of the biggest drama queens the world has ever known. They are like two spoiled eight year olds at a birthday party that aren't getting enough attention. Now they have to make a scene over nothing to get people to pay attention to them. Pathetic.

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J. Lendell — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:36:26 GMT

Clinton spin machine starts in three, two, oops, already started.

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Brenda, Orange County Ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:36:55 GMT

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Travis, West New York, NJ — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:37:34 GMT

Ben, all of the candidates campaigned in South Carolina. John Edwards is from there and Obama practically moved in.

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Brian Olson — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:37:40 GMT

I won't watch MSNBC anymore because of all the "Hillary-hating Pundits" on the network. The only show I will watch is Dan Abrams, who treats ALL the candidates fairly.

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M Cohen Westchester County NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:37:40 GMT

Just for the record-all the candidates pledged only one thing--not to campaign in Florida. Only Obama ran commercials there as part of a national cable buy. Neither Edwards or Clinton did. No other promise was made by the candidates.

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I'm special, the rules don't apply to me! — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:37:43 GMT

John Edwards is right, there are 2 Americas!

One for Billary and one for the rest of us!

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Josh Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:38:00 GMT

Thanks Hilldo, for giving me another reason to give money I dont have to the OBAMA campaign.

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Connie Huang — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:38:52 GMT

The Clintons are to laugh at.

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Charlottesville, VA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:39:52 GMT

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Mona, Norwalk, CT — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:40:26 GMT

msnbc has the worst coverage ever ...it was like a Obama campaign team ...talking about how great Obama is ....I think there is going to be MSNBC backlash...unfortunately helping Hillary

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PBrown — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:40:35 GMT

is the lady that desperate?
university park, md (Sent Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:19 PM)

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Yes she is and so are her supporters....They are about as pathetic as she is...

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Zeferimus, Denver Colorado — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:40:44 GMT

I still can't figure out what rule Hillary broke. With the south carolina win and Kennedy endorsement dominating the news all day yesterday, one would expect that would move a lot of votes! NBC is turning into 'National Barackting Company' The feeding frenzy is maddening to say the least.

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Sarah Bloomberg Encino, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:42:24 GMT

As a Democratic woman who has already voted for Hillary, I owe the entire Democratic party an apology. I cast my absentee ballot last week, but had I known Hillary would try and break the rules of the DNC, I would never have voted for her.

I am a democrat before anything and support my part over any candidate, including the clintons. I am ashamed that hillary is trying to change the rules for her own benefit. This is a tragedy for the party and the rules designated by OUR party.

Please, just one Hillary supporter, change your vote to Obama or Edwards for me as it would ease my conscience.

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Florida, New York, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:42:44 GMT

Rob in CA,

Hillary Clinton actually approached Edwards about making that back room deal and he turned her down. He subsequently approached Obama and he [Obama] turned him down.

I guess Obama isn't that type of politician after all.

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Shayla Bakersfield CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:42:55 GMT

I think it interesting how Hilary supporters also tried to change the rules in Nevada when the race was tightening up in the weeks before the caucus.
Also exit polling is showing that early voters went for Hilary and late deciders were split pretty evenly...which shows that momentum is moving Obama's way.

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Zeferimus, Denver Colorado — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:42:56 GMT

Way to go Travis. I am disgusted at all the faces of MSNBC and their eagerness to annoint Obama.

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Char Gallager, Viginia Beach VA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:43:04 GMT

Rob in CA --> Char Gallager... are YOU nuts??? Hillary did NOT run unopposed in FL

Rob, if it takes you more then two sentences to explain how Hillary "won" Florida, you're spinning. By the looks of things, you're up to a fairly good size essay.

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Rick,ky — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:43:38 GMT

Barack's campaign, just made a LIAR outta Billary again, with her own word's from before Iowa.

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Jay Link, Chicago, IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:44:30 GMT

With 83% of the Florida vote in, Hillary won by almost 300,000 votes.... 300,000 ????
I think is is very clear that she will be the democratic nominee come Super Tuesday....
Obama supporters are not very gracious when their chosen one gets his butt kicked...

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justin — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:44:51 GMT

this is perhaps the most contrived and biggest joke in american political history.

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Kristen, Atlanta, GA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:45:09 GMT

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colene, new york, new york — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:45:21 GMT

...her supporters were heard to be chanting "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!" "FAUX MORE YEARS!"

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LaShanda, New Carrollton, MD — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:45:59 GMT

Billary is off her rockers! Will she not stop, say, and do anything to win. You cannot change the rules in the middle of the game. And for the DNC to even consider such a thing is crazy. If she had lost Florida, then she'd be the won saying it was nothing but a beauty contest. You Clinton supporters can love her all you want, you know that her push to seat these delegates mid-game is nuts. If things were going her way, she would care less about Michigan or Florida. Wake up people. We do not need another theif in the night as president.

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Denise, California — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:46:23 GMT

OMG, how is Senator Obama going to explain this

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid353515028/bctid1396506113

This is unbelievable. I am in tears

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FJR, Arlington, VA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:46:59 GMT

BFD....Hillary won? What did she win? A headline....another opportunity to change the rules, oh yeah, We are the Clintons, we don't need no stinking rules! What does anyone see in these people? Hillary is manipulative and will say whatever to whomever; Bill is a liar and a cheater. If Hillary is the Dem candidate; McCain will be the next president. Way to go Dems!!

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Dwayne, Syracuse FL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:47:35 GMT

A page from the G. Bush play book. If Bush and steal Florida and get away with it on a technicality then why can't Clinton. They are one in the same. One just wears Red and the other Blue. Yet this is the kind of President that many in our Country wants.

Barak is certainly no saint, we have a right hold our praise until we have seen results, but if you want to talk about a leadership that worries me, Clintons worries me deeply. I was a strong believer in Hillary Clinton. I began to loose faith when she decided not to run in 2004, that wss the time that we needed her the most and she decided to give G.Bush another pass. She, like on so many other times, used her calculated judgment and missed her moment and it cost the country. She did it with Irag and Iran and she has miscalculated and made poor judment calls at least 4 times within her campaign. Let's face it she is a follower and she is riding the credibility and of Husband.

Like Bush, she feels that we owe her.

HRC has a lot of loyal friends but let's face it, she has terrible, terrible judgement.

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JD, Seattle, WA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:47:44 GMT

Does Hillary remind anyone else of Omarosa from The Apprentice?

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Michael, Tampa, Florida — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:48:00 GMT

Clearly the people of Florida have spoken and their voices have chosen Hillary Clinton as the nominee for the Democratic party.

Barack rhetoric about UNIFYING I guess only counts when it gets him votes...but not when it comes to hearing the voices of the people of Florida or Michigan.

Barack...uniter...what a joke! Florida was the beginning of the end for Barack Hussein Obama.

Hillary '08 and beyond....!

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tom b, Minneapolis, mn — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:49:36 GMT

Clinton did not brake any rules. If the delegates get seated, it will only be after the nomonie is selected. Some of these anti Hillary coments are really ignorent. Hillary recieved 200,000 more votes than McCain, the republican winner in Florida. Both McCain and Romney got more votes than Obama. Hillary did not campaign. Obama was running T.V. ads, which is a clear violation of the rules. Please stop the nonsense, Clinton Haters. The Clintons are winners. It is time to rally around them. Lets get rid of the political loosers of the past (Kennedy, Kerry, Daschell, and now Obama). The old democratic establishment who couldn't win a presedential election until the Clintons came along. Despite the unfair coverage of the media beating the Clintons to a pulp, they will still prevail.

P.S. You Clinton haters should quit being so emotional. I guess this is why you want Obama, all emotion and no substance or record to fall back on. Think with your brain not your ignorents.

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Cal — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:50:57 GMT

Voters of Michigan and Florida,

You got shafted, it is true. You have your State Democratic Parties to blame. Take your issues up with them.

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Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:50:59 GMT

Agreed Travis. The website as well as on TV. So much bias and disdain for HRC. At least pretend to be an impartial journalist. Thanks.

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MSNBC4Obama! — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:52:07 GMT

Hillary received more votes than the republican "winner" John McCain. Very impressive.....

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Marge English-Pennsylvania — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:52:48 GMT

"The simple fact is that hillary won and they lost. this is different from michigan because all three were on the ballot. This is a touching subject and i would advise Obama not to continue to say that florida did not count, because in that statement he is disenfranchising floridian"

What did she win???? In this particular instance Florida didn't count!!! If it had Hillary would have added some delegates.

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jeff freeman, burton, michigan — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:52:58 GMT

Thank you Jeff freeman

Dear DNC as a lifelong democrat and from a family that has voted democratic since 1930, I am deeply disturbed , angry ,shaken at the arrogance of the dnc to disenfranchise my vote and the vote of my entire family both here in Michigan and in Florida . This does not represent democratic principles. Our founding fathers gave their lives for and founded this nation to escape this very tyranny that you are imposing on us please abandon this course of action soon before irreparable harm is done to both the party and our nation

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Dana — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:54:23 GMT

MSNBC is a Clinton hater and Obama LICKING station. Their reports have been biased towards Obama. Jeezzz.
And I thought Fox Network was anti-Clinton.

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Lisa Quinn — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:55:10 GMT

First comes agreeing not campaign in MI and FLD.

Second comes keeping your name on the ballots in MI and FLD. It's just an oversight, nothing really.

Third comes doing just "a little" campaigning in the two states.

Fourth comes winning the states, even though your name was the only one on the ballot in one, and only you showed up in the second state to campaign.

Fifth comes the screaming, whining, and pouting that you should have the delegates.

This is Hillary's and Bill's definition of "fair".

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JT, Texas — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:56:09 GMT

All of you that favor Senator Obama please consider this. I believe the last president of this nation was elected because he was going to be the great uniter. He was a Washington outsider that was going to unite the Democrats and the Republicans and change the way business is done in Washington. Today we have the highest deficit we have ever had, are embroiled in a war that John McCain says may last 100 years, have spent billions of dollars on that war and have gas prices that are out of sight.

Now you have the second coming of JFK that is promising to unite us and change the way business is done in Washington, and to do this he is enlisting the aid of many of hardest core Washinton insiders you can think of. I for one find think it sounds like the same old song being sang by a different singer. Just like all of you I would love to believe we were going to see the change he promises, but it is hard to believe that when he surrounds himself with the very thing he says is wrong with Washington. For the sake of this country I hope I am wrong if he is elected, but as for me, I will pass on voting for him. At least with Clinton I know that the past policies employed by Bill Clinton brought us a balance budget and a surplus. I know I personally was much better off financially than I am now.

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brady brown, seattle — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:57:21 GMT

in every poll before campaigning began, clinton was ahead of obama, sometimes 2 to 1. once clinton and obama came to said state and presented their arguments, we see close primaries all over the country. the plain truth is hillary has name recognition. obama is too new just to vote for him cuz he sounds good if you're a rank and file democrat. i honestly think if obama and clinton campaigned, we would have seen a much closer race. wait, it wasn't a race. it was a beauty contest. it don't mean shiiet.

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brady brown, seattle — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:57:21 GMT

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Augie Doggie — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:57:52 GMT

HRC can take some consolation that a lot of CA voters have already voted absentee and that she won those voters 53-30.
Nathan Hale, Washington, DC

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I don't know, I don't think 83 votes are going to matter that much. And besides, why are they counting and announcing the results before next Tuesday?
Something tells me you are not telling the truth.

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TS, Howell, NJ — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:59:22 GMT

I agree with the poster Travis Fritsche fully. I have lost respect for MSNBC and dont want to watch your news coverage and will not buy anything that is advertised in Chris Matthews's shows. Other than Keith Olbermann and Tom Brokaw the TV coverage has become a sounding horn for Obama and has become worse than Fox News (which most of us know is anything but fair and balanced). Shame on you MSNBC! Your election coverage did not even show the vote counts of the democratic party in Florida. Granted that they were stripped off of delegates but other channels like CNN and Fox atleast showed the vote counts of both parties. You did not want to show that Hillary Clinton was winning, you did not report that Obama did campaign there and you continue to help fix this election. It is your kind of people that call themselves journalists whose reporting created the condition for America to support the Iraq war. You are putting down not Hillary by not showing the vote counts but showing immense disrespect for the people of Florida that went to the voting booths to cast their Ballot. Shame on You First-Read and MSNBC!
I dare you to post this and not censor this under your excuse of moderation.

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Janice, Eastern, NC — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:59:44 GMT

Thank you "Mr. Travis Fritsche of West New York, NJ" who posted at 10:21 PM!!! You are right on top of things with your comment. I could not agree with you more regarding how obviously slanted NBC/MSNBC are against Senator Clinton. It seems that they want Obama to just have an easy "slide and ride" into office - so they let him get away with EVERYTHING while scrutinizing every syllable that comes out of Hillary and Pres. Clinton's mouths!! Obama's eloquent speeches turn into wimpy whines everytime somebody says something challenging to him. I am so tired of the slanted reporting until I have written to Brian Williams and Tim Russert to announce that I am switching to ABC if they don't present the news in a non-biased format. This is not fair and only makes me support Hillary all the more! Thank you again Travis and to "Hillary...You Go Girl!" from a 45-yr old African American woman in NC!!

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Steven,KDH, N.C. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 03:59:51 GMT

Rob...CA....Clinton had robocalls going in Florida. It has already been reported on this evening by Keith Olbermann. Obama's ad was cleared by the Party officials. Those calls weren't. For some reason you Clintonites think we don't see Hillary. Well, you're wrong. We've had plenty of time to get to know her, and we just don't trust her. And we sure as hell don't hate the Repubs. like you guys do. Not enough to give the Clintons the White House again. It's time to work together. Hillary will not unite. The Obama supporters are a solid force now. We will win. Feb. 5th states.....Now's you're time. Things don't have to be the same old way. We are a great country that's just forgotten how to be great. Vote Obama and let's be who the world needs us to be.

"Why should anyone think that a small group of people can change the world?"....."Because it's the only thing that ever has."

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offthegrid — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:00:03 GMT

While there were no delegates at stake it would be ridiculous to say that the outcome has no meaning.

I also agree that the media has turned on Hillary Clinton. I heard Tucker call her 'the little woman' a night or two ago and its well documented that Matthews is incapable of a neutral position all the while spewing sexist remarks. If Matthews remarks were geared towards race rather than sex he have been fired long ago.

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Rob in CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:01:26 GMT

Char... let me put it succinctly.

Hillary won 50% of the vote.

Obama won 33%.

Short. Sweet. Hillary won.

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Walt D., Orlando — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:03:02 GMT

All you Hillary Haters, lay off!! Everyone should be allowed their fantasies!

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FJ Stratford — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:03:08 GMT

Go Hillary! You can bring about the necessary improvements that this country sorely needs!

You won Florida EVEN WHEN OBAMA BROKE HIS PROMISE BY AND ADVERTISING IN FLORIDA!

Hillary Hillary Hillary!

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NinaK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:03:48 GMT

Watching the news on TV today, I heard that Bill Clinton was making phone calls to Florida citizens and the people in power there. One of the newsmen even said it would have been great to tape these calls to see just what Bill was saying. Yep, more manipulation of the voting process by the Clintons. WINNING BY CHEATING AND MANIPULATION IS NOT A TRUE WIN!! but the Clintons don't care HOW they win as long as they win!! I hope the DNC stands firm in its decision to not count the Florida delegates. To give in to the Clintons would be a disaster and the Clintons would once again revel in their corrupt power to cajole, manipulate, and control. God Help Us All!!

And what the heck was Hillary doing in Florida, anyway? And holding a rally? This rally was not planned overnight, its been a while in the making! You better believe there were some dirty games going on behind the scenes!!

Makes you want to vomit!!

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Nans Almond — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:04:29 GMT

Tomorrow, Hillary is going to Disney, and is going to play dress up with Snow White.

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Jay Link, Chicago, IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:04:40 GMT

To all the Barack supporters. I Have a question. If Barack won by the same margin in Florida, would you still say, the 1.5 million Florida votes counted for nothing. I would like an honest answer.

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Help Your Self — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:06:25 GMT

I was an undecided democrat, until tonight! Hilliary seems mentally unstable! Will someone please ask her what she won?!? She is totally delusional! Well, I can cross one out of the three off of the list.
Kristen, Atlanta, GA

Kristen - good for you. When you are done crossing all the names off, come take a look at the Republican candidates.

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FJR, Arlington, VA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:07:03 GMT

Michael, obviously you don't understand the meaning of hope and unity....as the Clintons injected race, you, by using Obama's middle name in a derisive manne, clearly let us know your worldview.....the world is changing and you and others like you will be left behind. It's the past versue the future...we want a better future.

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Somewhat yes but perhaps no, Conflicted, California — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:07:45 GMT

Just remember, boys and girls, Hillary is sincere whether she means it or not; she is truthful all of the time sometimes; she is fully qualified partially; and she is a duplicitous ass absolutely all the time.

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Nick T, Stockton, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:08:07 GMT

The commercials Obama bought were National, they were not specifically targetted towards Florida. I guess he missed out on the "National except Florida" special.

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Billy, Normal, IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:08:19 GMT

Spin it however you want, but this election is full of bad news for the Clintons. They now depend on early voting and no campaigning to win, as the results show a dramatic shift in momentum.

Not to worry, though... the "poor Hillary" strategy has already kicked in. In the news today, she claimed about the big-snub, "I held my hand out in unity and support, and I'm still holding out my hand. I hope to shake his hand someday soon." In other words, take-two of "That hurts my feelings (pout)."

You can bet the Almost-Tears-Moment is now scheduled for a key moment before Super Tuesday. Obviously, the writer's strike has forced her bankrupt campaign into showing reruns.

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jane — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:08:29 GMT

Awesome! Hillary won Florida. She has won 4 out of 6 states so far. Obama only won big in a state where there was a large African-American population to boost him.

Though no delegates were awarded from Florida, Hillary's win here definitely proves she still has a strong backing from voters in this country. I have every confidence she will win the nomination. She deserves. Hats off to Ms. Clinton.

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Frankie Crosby, Columbus Georgia. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:08:42 GMT

OMG!!

More piss poor coverage by MSNBC. It's OK Super Tuesday will be the final "yoke" on MSNBC's mouth... No more crying for Obama, because the nomination will be complete...

MSNBC, Weak minded pundits, were not eating crow, crows were flying out of their faces... You could actually see it in there eyes.

I have never seen such fascination with the Republicans, as the MSNBC crowd put on display tonight... It was so bloody obvious what they were doing... Keith Olbermann even called it "The Democratic Thing" with his lack luster pretending of no interest, in the Florida Primary... What a bunch of suck sour grape losers...

Hillary kicked Obama's bottom, with a massive sized boot in Florida, more votes than any other Democrat, "Give me a break" she trounced him, and she got more votes than any other Republican too, it's amazing how a news organization, DON'T COVER THE NEWS, like MSNBC. Talk about a rout...

Obama won the black vote "again" and that was the story... He lost the White and Hispanic vote, big time... Does this sound familar, oh yes it does and it will repeat... Ted Kennedy and the "extreme left" tried to rush in and save their baby, but it was just a ploy all that (BS) about racism, and Bill Clinton...Was politics as usual, all trying to hide the "Fact" that Obama is polarizing... STOP WITH THE LIES, WE SEE RIGHT THROUGH THEM.... We don't need lying pundits on msnbc to try and tell us how to think...

CNN AND FOX, were much more balanced in there coverage, than, Obama's mouth piece msnbc news.... In fact they were *far more compressive* in there coverage... Really just a bunch of sour grape losers, I can't describe it any other way.... Just cover the news is all we care about, but this overt subversion is beyond ridiculous...

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tiredofignorance MN — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:09:42 GMT

I voted for Bill Clinton, twice. Will not vote for Hillary. I will be at the Caucus in MN to support Obama, but have heard enough from Hillary and Bill to last me a lifetime.

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M Cohen Westchester County NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:10:11 GMT

This is lunacy. Obama allegedly "snuffs" Hillary at the SOTU and he's a pariah. Hillary _signs a pledge_ abiding by DNC rules that Michigan and Florida don't count, and then flagrantly violates that pledge in front of the entire nation. We're supposed to reward her for gaming the system? We're supposed to see that as a good quality in a president? Hello, where have you people been for the last 7 years???

Charlottesville-sorry you are very wrong. The candidates DID NOT make a pledge that the primaries would not count. They made a pledge not to campaign in Michigan or Florida. Only Obama broke that pledge by airing TV commercials as part of a national cable buy. Edwards and Clinton chose to do market by market buys specifically so commercials would not air in Florida. Now Clinton creamed Obama in what I admit is purely a popularity contest and all the Obama people are crying foul! For what? For getting more votes? Sorry folks--that is what happens in a democracy--people vote.

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ST, Houston, TX — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:11:17 GMT

Hillary's latest attempt to get the nomination is truly sad for her campaign. Hillary is proving her critics right in continuing to show herself as under-handed and power hungry. The mere idea that she wants to declare victory - much less a tremendous victory - in Florida is just dispicable. On some level, I am upset by her latest antics because it's extra media coverage that she doesn't deserve, but on the other hand, I have to laugh because anyone half-way rational will see right through this.

At the end of the day, I don't care what happens with these FL or MI delegates, but I just want to be clear about one thing: these delegates from FL and MI should NOT under any circumstances determine the nominee, should there be a delegate tie somehow. It's one thing to want to honor the voices of FL and MI (though admittedly their voices consisted more of name-recognition), but it's entirely different to make them count in the same as if the DNC rule was never set. It would be fundamentally unfair for supporters of lessor-known candidates and therefore un-democratic for this nomination to be predominently determined on name-recognition alone. I, for one, would NEVER vote for Hillary if she got the nomination this way. And after experiencing how Bush stole the election from Gore, I think many Democrats out there would share my sentiment of not wanting to be cheated.

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Henri, Fort Lauderdale FL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:11:56 GMT

Hmm - 'campdog' has a good point: "No body asked the people that vote in Florida or Michigan if they agreed with the rule. Since when do political parties punish voters for wanting their voices to be heard." Thank you, sir.

And a wee FYI; I'm sure that I saw Mitt Romney in TV ads in the last couple of weeks too.

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Jerry — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:13:50 GMT

people keep their eyes on all kinds of trivial factoid and emotional cues that commentators and talk show hosts present them. Even half of the democrats are brainwashed by Republicans to habor the incredulously underserving hatred against the Clintons. Bill Clinton is the only president in the last twenty years to bring the country good time and budget surplus. Yet nobody seems to appreciate that. No wonder we are on fast track to bankrupt this great nation, and some people wants to make sure of that by preventing Hillary to even get a chance to try to do some good for the country. I honestly don't think any other candidates are competent enough to have a remote chance to get this country back onto the right track.

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Paul Miller, Woodbridge, VA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:14:00 GMT

You know, let's set aside all this Obama vs Clinton stuff for a second. The Democratic Party has a hell of a problem.

As some above have said, it isn't politically wise not to seat Florida delegates. However, it isn't wise to seat them, either. That could alienate the early states, and encourage other states to defy the rules next time.

Plus if those delegates give Clinton a win over Obama for the nomination, the party could very well split. And Clinton supporters, please, y'all know you'd be manning the barricades if the positions were changed and that happened to Clinton.

So what does the DNC do?

Clearly it hopes that either candidate wins by a larger margin of delegates than is at play here.

Because if that doesn't happen... Wow. Could be a bigger story than the issue of who our next president will be. But that only solves part of the problem. The DNC either risks alienating Florida and Michigan party members, or risks alienating party members from other states.

And let's not forget who is to blame for this mess. Whoever it was in Florida who decided to push the date forward, knowing the consequences the DNC was openly stating.

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mona,richmond,ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:14:11 GMT

Hillary won Florida and she didn't get any delegates but you should recognize the voice of the people and take pause to recognize that. You can't recognize South Carolina for the number of people who voted there and then disregard the population of Florida. If Obama had won Florida we would be having a different conversation but he didn't so now it's time to belittle the significance of the people's vote in Florida.

When did MSNBC become FOX2? Keith Olberman and Tim Russert simply cannot contain their hatred for Hillary Clinton. Its just seeping through their pores when they talk about her.We are going to have a female president for the United States in 2008 boys...deal with it!!!!

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Tony, Rochester NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:15:12 GMT

Hillary Clinton's "Great Victory"? Sounds an awful lot like "Mission Accomplished". Another clear indication of how she will lead on Day One. Why doesn't this bother Clinton supporters? The spin-at-all-cost tactics they used to decry they now cheer on. Manufactured events, artificial accomplishments, planted questions, stagey photo-ops Didn't we just leave this party? The smugness, the smirks, the stubburn denial of how a battle is going. It's so familiar it hurts. Anything to win, and if you're not winning, pretend that you are. Great.

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Ann — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:16:33 GMT

Why do we want a known liar as a president. If she made a pledge to the good ppl of Iowa, NH, and NV what makes you think she will not lie as President...

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Rene — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:16:59 GMT

What a joke she is! How could she stoop so low. I have no respect whatsoever for her. She just doesn't play fair

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mona,richmond, ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:17:15 GMT

JD, Seattle WA.

Sorry Omarosa reminds me more of Michelle Obama!! Seriously do an image search. They could be sisters maybe twins.

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Nonya, USA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:17:39 GMT

Can Florida just secede from the Nation and save the rest of us the trouble of living with Bush/Clinton?

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David Andreasson, Eagle River AK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:19:50 GMT

The Hillary bandwagoners here seem to be ignoring what Russert said about the Florida votes.

That HRC won by the "mail in" ballots that came in when she was riding a wave and the media was dissing Obama.

He said that if you compare that with the amount of people who walked through the doors TODAY and voted for Obama, Obama WINS.

Hillaryites are celebrating prematuraly.

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Joseph, San Francisco, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:20:03 GMT

Reading some of these comments really gives me a braincramp...
-hillary clinton voted to give authority to go to war, unprovoked against another country...
TWICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!! It makes me want to pull my hair out
In Iraq and then again in Iran. She voted to classify the Iranian military as Terrorists. What do you think that vote was!!!!!!!... a defacto invitation for Bush &co. to attack iran... and it would of happened too if the intelligence community hadn't purposely leaked the NIE reports that bush has been getting for the past few years about the Iranian nuclear program being dead in the water. forget the personality and media BS.. clinton supporters must have their eyes shut. talk about checking your ethics at the door. she shouldn't even be a viable candidate after the iran vote. I mean, she is the ONLY candidate taking money from PACs and special interests.....and that isn't spin, folks. Don't you guys know how this stuff works?
Clinton supporters just don't even want to consider what it would be like to have a courageous, liberal, and ethical president that could put an end to the last 20 of washington BS and REACH across and UNITE all americans to deal with the serious issues facing us. and that isn't spin either. look who the obama supporters are,... independent women senators and governers who haven't been in washington for ages (ie, favors)..
please, for the sake of us all, and especially fellow californians, WAKE UP!!! OBAMA IS IT... he's the great american leader we've been waiting all these years for! I wish he was a woman... I'd love to have a female president. but, Please...

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Keith in DC — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:20:07 GMT

All the Democrats pledge NOT to campaign in Florida. Who was the one Democrat to break the pledge? Senator Clinton. She was there in Sarasota meeting with voters before the election. Enough said.

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Mike LA, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:20:32 GMT

Dwayne from NY-

I echo your excellent post. Hillary missed her chance when we democrats needed her more then ever. I prayed each and every day that she would run and I would have supported her with everything I has, but she abandoned her party for polical calculation.

Now she mocks her party leaders, bu contesting Florida after the fact when she specifically said that it wouldn't count. I unfortunately can not trust her as my president and I can not vote for someone I do not trust.

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Maria, Miami, FLA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:21:15 GMT

This is silly. There are no delegates. The Clinton campaign should abide by the rules and stop the insulting spin.

Hillary is the anti-feminist candidate.

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Bernadette Jones, St. Louis, MO — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:22:40 GMT

All this jib jibberish! I lived in Florida 17 years and let me tell you, NOTHING will stop the Floridians! That doesn't make sense saying they are being punished like a kid. That's just plain stupid. My Floridians will find a way into the DNC, and their delegates will count! Mark my words, right now Floridians are pissed Obama and Edwards didn't give them the respect they deserve. Running a few measly ads? Florida is always about bucking the system, and with those two showing no spunk, courage or respect for them when the DNC reverses it's decision all their votes will go to Hill. I voted when Bush stole the election the first time, and let me tell you, Floridians are STILL pissed, tired of not having their voices count. So for them to have the DNC say their voices don't matter that's just makes them fight even harder. Go Hill, do the damn thang girl! When you understand the minds of the Floridians you will know Barack or Edwards could've had a chance but they don't anymore; not in Florida anyway.

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Terry — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:22:57 GMT

If Obama and Edwards put up resistance to including Florida and Michigan delegates at the national convention then they are risking the alienation of millions of people. If the situation was reversed, do you think Obama and Edwards would be more inclusive of those millions of people? I think its very republican like if a candidate wants to tell voters in a couple of states that "your vote doesn't count". Voter suppression is what republicans are best at and perhaps Obama is a closet republican.

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This Means Nothing, Illinois — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:23:17 GMT

What a triumph... FOR ME TO POOP ON!

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Brian, Pittsburgh PA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:23:35 GMT

I suspect that Clinton's attempts to get Florida's votes counted would win her a lot of votes.

That being said, I think we are still seeing the fall out from the SC debate, which was one of the most widely watched primary debates in history, and in which, both Clinton and Obama got ugly. Clinton can afford to get ugly but b/c so much of Obama's appeal was in the fact that he was seen as the good politician.

The next 7 days are the most important in the campaign. Obama needs to go back to being a hope monger. If he can get back to the guy that campaigned in Iowa and New Hampshire, he will win. If not, he will lose.

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Fabian,Toronto, Canada — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:25:30 GMT

Folks, don't forget this woman's last name is Clinton. A president of two terms. Now how can anyone compete with that. I can understand, you guys, saying it's a beauty contest, but the clintons are running for the third time for heaven's sake. HRC should be ashamed of herself for wanting to change the rules so that they can fit her wishes. If she were not married to Bill, she would be done by now.The fact is other candidates did not get a chance to make their cases in Florida, so the voters went for someone they know and that's Bill Clinton's wife.

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ObamaRama — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:25:55 GMT

I for one am glad that the Obama-Nation has found a couple of straws to grasp before they do the Wylie Coyote next Tuesday. Rationalize and insult away, take your best shots, come up with your most creative snarks, as you won't really matter much next Wednesday. The handwriting is on the wall, women come out in RECORD numbers and most vote for Hillary. Hispanics, Whites, Asians, blue-collar and seniors ALL go for Hillary. Tonight is EXACTLY what you will see in state after state next week. Which states will Barry win? DC? He will have BLOWN over a HUNDRED and TWENTY MILLION dollars of YOUR money for NOTHING.

So, cling to those straws; Late deciders went for Barry, but not by much, but people who made up their minds that day went for Hillary, go figure.
And remember, even though he lost by over 300,000 votes (More than he GOT in SC) it didn't count so no one will care that he got CRUSHED. It's been fun, and it;'s going to be fun this week, but the best part will be next Tuesday night and next Wednesday. I can hardly wait, how 'bout you, Obama-Nation?

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ObamaRama — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:26:07 GMT

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iowan` — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:26:33 GMT

A new and pathetic low, even for these sanctimonious has-beens, the Clintons.

This said, the capacity of the American people for manipulation of their essentially optimstic nature cannot be underestimated, as evidenced most recently, most personally by the 'forward' of the infamous 'Hussein' e-mail to me, earlier tonight, by family members in a Feb 5 state who are circulating it as though it had never been sent...months ago. Perhaps we get the government we deserve. Woo hoo to the incredible BS of McCain ("I will stay in Iraq forever and cut taxes and oppose spending". Okay, Grandpa) and sophistry of Clinton. I'm kinda gettin' why the Founders dug the Electoral College. Social liberal though I may be, my fellow Americans can be incredible dumbsh*ts from time to time.

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Pat Ryan, Hillsboro KY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:29:55 GMT

Barack rhetoric about UNIFYING I guess only counts when it gets him votes...but not when it comes to hearing the voices of the people of Florida or Michigan.

It's really hard to debate a person this dumb, but here goes. Barack didn't not "hear" the votes of Michigan or Florida. Unlike Hillary, he abided by the rules set out by his party. Obama followed the rules set forth by his party months ago. Hillary ignored the rules, and now is trying to steal those delegates at the last minute. At the very least, it's un-American and unfair. It is the Clinton MO though. What you can't win, steal. What you can't steal, take it to court.

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Kate NC — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:30:06 GMT

Will all of you at MSNBC please let up on the kool-aid. When someone doesn't agree with you or Obama you can't wait to shut them up. I actually felt sorry for Pat Buchanan tonight trying to make his point about Latino voters. Quit campaigning for Obama, you guys are worse than FOX and that is saying a lot. Besides Obama campaigned FIRST in Florida not Hillary! The only person who played by the rules was Edwards!

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leon houston — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:30:30 GMT

my only consolation(though it is shallow), mccain will be a huge inprovement over oilman bush. we will not get universal healthcare, we will not get removal of our army from the united states of iraq, we will not get union membership increase, and we will not get a more vibrant economy, and we will not get relief from gouging oil companies.but at least we will not have bush and that will be a comfort.

my fellow democrats, mccain and the republican smear machine will destroy clinton or obama and you have proven to have fallen for the glitz of those two over plain bread edwards, but at least it will not be the spoiled rich kid who sent young men to die while he patroled fort worth. once again democrats have chosen idealism over a middle class in crisis

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Tim, Austin, TX — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:30:38 GMT

This has turned out to be an interesting night for the Democrats. Right now with almost all of the precincts reporting Clinton has 50% and Obama has 33%. It would have been a much closer race I think had both decided to campaign in Florida. Clinton won strictly based on the support of name recognition and familiarity. For Obama to take 33% and to come all of this way is an amazing accomplishment in itself.

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Mary, Iowa — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:31:28 GMT

ONCE AGAIN...just because Clintons SAID Obama said Florida voters didn't count does NOT MEAN HE SAID it!!!!!

Where is the investigative part of the journalism? Your professors must be embarrassed.

It was clear to us here in Iowa who has integrity and who doesn't.

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Ian — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:32:42 GMT

I find it interesting that the entire MSNBC crew tonight inferred that there might be something unseemly about Hilary's declaration of "Victory in Florida". Yet, given the opportunity to actually ask her about it, Chris and Keith proceeded to throw softballs. God forbid you cowards might ask her to comment on the fact her victory was due in large part to the large number of absentee ballots cast weeks ago and that, in fact, the votes cast tonight strongly suggest a much closer contest.
This is a repeating pattern with you two - not just with Hillary but with all candidates. Where are your balls and what is your purpose?

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Sister Mary Ellen Ross — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:32:42 GMT

Hillary certainly is a troubled person. We should all pray for her.

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jeff, miami — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:32:48 GMT

Obama run TV ads (the only one), had 2 (!!!!!) fundraisers, had a grassroots support team from Chicago working here for one month (google it)!
It's too late, Obamanites! The party is over for you! ha-ha!!!!
Salute to Madame President!

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BRAVEHEART, Imperial Beach, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:32:50 GMT

I haven't posted for months because this site is so filled with anger. Please put down your can of vitriol and recognize that this divisiveness is not good for the country or either party's nominee this November. Team Clinton is good at spin, but some objective reporter should be giving us the straight story:

Committed Delegate Count (voted in primaries and caucuses) MSM "winners" listed first

Iowa - Obama 16, Clinton 15, Edwards 14
New Hampshire - Clinton 9, Obama 9, Edwards 4
MI - zero
Nevada - Clinton 12, Obama 13
South Carolina - Obama 25, Clinton 12, Edwards 8
FL - zero

All spin aside, Senator Obama has either won more delegates or tied Senator Clinton in every contest to date. MSM and Team Clinton can claim "victory" in NH, MI, NV, and FL...but it is a hollow claim.

That said, Senator Obama leads with 63 committed delegates to Senator Clinton's 48...but he still needs 1,962 more to earn the Democratic nomination...so as I wrote earlier, everyone put down your can of vitriol, we have a long way to go...and frankly, I would rather hear/read what you like about your favorite candidate (especially their ideas and future policy plans) than read what you dislike/hate about someone else's favorite candidate.

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J. Fisher, Detroit, MI — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:32:51 GMT

"HRC can take some consolation that a lot of CA voters have already voted absentee and that she won those voters 53-30."

Come on, where did you get this number. Polls are one thing, but it is nearly impossible to exit poll absentee voters. And it is also nearly impossible to call absentee homes and poll them. One of three things happened here. 1) you made up this number for your own amusement (if so grow up) 2) this is an unscrupulous "push" style poll meant to lie to the public, 3) someone else made this up and you believed it.

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jeff, miami — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:33:12 GMT

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Tom/North Dakota — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:33:57 GMT

You go girl...

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EHH — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:35:20 GMT

Simmer down folks!
this thing is going to the convention. It won't be over on 2/5.
Anyway, did anybody happen to catch HRC's interview? Direct question regarding her quote stating that the Florida primary "means nothing", naturally, she didn't even remotely give an answer (I defy anyone here to come up with a time where she actually has directly answered a question) but the maniacal laugh was priceless. Not many people can pull off an uncanny impersonation of Jack Nicholson as The Joker and still look "presidential"! :-)

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Patrick Casey. Salt Lake City, Ut — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:36:06 GMT

How many phone calls did NBC/MSNBC take from outraged viewers before they caved and announced the results of the democratic vote? I will lay odds of a hundred to one that had Obama won by the same margin as Clinton. Russert, Matthews, and the rest of the "nattering class" at NBC/MSNBC (sadly K.O. as well) would have called it a massive victory for him. Now unlike many of his phony supporters in the media who's support would disappear the minute he won the nomination, I think Obama would make a great President, but I resent like hell, having him stuffed down my throat.

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Plubius, Wyoming — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:38:01 GMT

The DNC must issue a solution immediately regarding both Michigan and Florida. Address the issue NOW and don't remain silent. The only LEGITIMATE solution is to have another primary that actually counts in May. Yes it will cost a great deal of money but more importantly the voters of each state will have their votes count and candidates can legitimately campaign in the states. Announce this now so that campaigns can organize. Avoid a showdown over this issue in August. Don’t play into Karl Rove’s hand. Make it legitimate for Michigan and Florida. Make it legitimate for the candidates. Make it legitimate for the Country. The DNC needs to show some leadership!

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Will, Sterling, Va — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:38:34 GMT

I wish the Clintons would go away. That is a joke, calling that a victory. Floridiots.

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Alex G, Los Angeles, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:38:39 GMT

I think the press once more give reasons to Mr Clinton to complain about preferential treatment. If Obama would have won or even come close to beat Hillary all the press would be raving about his perfomance, but because he got hammered (as much as Clinton in SC) now it is a beauty contest. Let me tell you Feb 5 won't be a beauty contest and Obama will look pretty bad after that.

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melissa — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:39:10 GMT

Excuse me, but she is not the only one who is going to want these votes to count. No can win without them,and really if Obama can't stand the heat he should get instead of crying like a little baby boy.
Also Obama you idiots broke the rules himself by playing those horrible ads over and over. So Obama people should just keep their mouths shut you all look and sound like fools.
And all three of their names were on the ballots.
Obama is like Kennedy, Kerry a loser.

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Sarah Francis, Cleveland — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:41:22 GMT

Hillary reminds me of one of those tin-horn dictators. Running up an obscure hill, planting a flag, and shouting "I claim this hill in the name of The Clintons". Whoop-ee.

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Joe — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:41:29 GMT

Any body else see parallels between the lawsuit in Nevada to change the rules of the caucases and her efforts (despite her pledge) to change the rules in Florida? The rules are fine until they work against her, then they are unfair and must be changed! I'm a Democrat, but I believe how you win matters, and I'll have a really hard time supporting her in November if she wins like this.

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ME- Fresno, Ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:41:34 GMT

What a power house Hillary is!!! She dosn't have the media backing her like Oboma and she is still going to win. If Oboma had to stand own his own he would fall on his face. Bring on Oprah but I'm will still vote for Hillary.
Go Hillary!

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KC Dallas Tex — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:41:44 GMT

Ultimately, this is about integrity. Two of the candidates have it. One doesn't.

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Joe — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:42:34 GMT

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Kevin, Torono, Ontario — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:43:00 GMT

Im not even American but you Clinton Haters are not too bright. How your economy fourished when Bill was around. Look at it now, and you think Obama will do better with a couple years experience?

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Fred Cox, Washington, DC — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:44:40 GMT

You know what I am an Obama supporter but I have to admit Hillary knows how to cheat. All the canidates promised not to campaign in FL only Hill could see how to covertly campaign and pull a win from this. Now I have to decide do I want an honest or underhanded president. I guess I will still stick with honest. I don't feel the need to vote for the winner.

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Bobby, TX — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:44:54 GMT

Brenda fm Orange Cty...You are mistaken. Obama went to the DNC and asked that specific question about his National Ad. No deception...I agree that the punishment of voters (because their leaders cheated) is a cause of concern, but I think it is wrong to go there and proclaim yourself the victor...The honorable thing to do would have been to skip it all together, which was agreed upon. Look for both Obama and Edwards to attack her at the debate because of all of the money that was lost in fund raising...I think the more she calls attention to Florida and Michigan, the more people will question her true motives in those states. Like it or not, the other side has a tremendous following (that is growing). The Mid-west is going to follow Obama (Kansas Gov's endorsement is huge) and I expect a tight fight for California and NJ. She might win NY, but it will be closer than anyone predicts. I think it will come down to the end, the convention, before things are decided. If it is a tie, I think Hillary loses. If she has a slight lead in delegates, then she will win the nomination (but lose the general election). If Obama has a delegate lead, he will be the next President...

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ME- Fresno, Ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:45:40 GMT

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AlexG, Los Angeles, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:45:54 GMT

What is the moderator doing? How do you let pass Scorpio comment? Not only Scorpio denigrates special olympics which is pretty low, but also calls 1/12 of the population liars. UNBELIEVABLE!!! Do your job moderator.

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RGO, California — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:46:01 GMT

To all of you STUPID americans and there are lots of you ... Hillary did NOT run unoppose in Florida. Both OBama and Edwards were on the ballot and Hillary beat their behinds like there was no tomorrow....

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Mary Ann, Seattle, Wa — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:46:58 GMT

This is just more of the ridiculous one-sided media coverage. I saw that others noted that same issue. It reeally is BAD and I can hardly watch and read the coverage. I an a strong supporter of Hillary, but I am pretty confident that I am a level headed judge of the coverage and it is unabashedly biased. Hillary did not campaign in Florida and all candidates had fund raisers in the state. Obama actually ran ads when no one else did. The fact is that floridians stated their preference based on all they have watched, read, heard, etc.. There has been no lack of media coverage of the candidates and no shortage of opportunity to learn about them. I think it is quite impressive that she won by such a large margin despite the one-sided media coverage.

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Kam Leung, South Windsor, connecticut — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:47:04 GMT

Please open your eyes, don't let the TV comercial and famours person's endorsement to confuse you, vote the who has ability, experience and good intention to lead this country, look at what he/she DID to this country, not only TALK, forget about their name, agenda or color, be smart

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laura elwin, Sammamish Wash. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:48:08 GMT

Most of the people commenting are really uninformed:
Hillary Clinton did not run unopposed in Florida primary. If you were watching CNN who happened to run a side of the screen covering the votes coming in for Clinton/Obama/Edwards would have informed you that votes were coming in for all three candidates.
Just because Hillary got some 50% and more votes than John MCCain, and Obama got approx. 33%, you are all ragging on Hillary Clinton. She knows how the Democrate voters in Florida had to fight for their votes to count when Gore was robbed that she cares to try and have their votes count now. If Obama had received 50% of the votes there he would be doing the same. Florida's votes will count in November and that is what counts...Hillary Clinton won more votes than MCCain or Mitt. I do believe that all the negative hateful comments are coming from Repubs.
Obama did run an Ad in Florida, Hilliary did not.
And by the way, he did a slick SNUB which he denied with such a flimsy excuse...or it was two different excuses...Claire tapped him on the shoulder and he was trying to avoid dealing with the "ackwardness" of the day. Whatever! He was rude and immature.
His comment to Keith and Chris regarding Hillary
getting 50% in Florida was so "sweet".... He sounded really negative and I thought that he was going to be nicer. Oh right, he wants everyone to be nicer to him. I do believe that under that big smile is someone who could really throw a temper fit. (now I
am being nasty...but I just don't think that he is so likeable. He could have had a gracious remark about the Florida vote. I thought that Hillary answered back with dignity and was not confrontational which Obama's comment was.

MSNBC did not show the Democrat votes coming in like CNN. What's the reason for that MSNBC??? You have become the new FOX. Chris Matthews had the funniest smile of sorts while Sen. Clinton answered questions.
He knows how nasty he has been to her and I think that Chris has become a very little man. So MSNBC wants to report that the votes equal zero. Okay, let"s see what happens in Florida in November!!!

Laura, WA

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Fred Cox — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:48:18 GMT

My fav Clinton tactic accuse the other guy of doing exactly what you did. The classic was when Clinton said you (Obama) associate with crooks. I about died laughing shall we all forget white water the king of all crooked land deals.

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laura elwin, Sammamish Wash. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:48:43 GMT

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Alex Crest — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:49:48 GMT

Does Hillary remind anyone else of Omarosa from The Apprentice?
JD, Seattle, WA

Ehhh, maybe just a little. Omarosa is a little more humble then Hillary.

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Chuck K, Buffalo, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:50:16 GMT

Obama supporters are not very gracious when their chosen one gets his butt kicked...

Jay Link, Chicago, IL (Sent Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:44 PM)
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Ummmmm... hypocrite?

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kile — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:50:48 GMT

According to latest polls hes gaining on her in California and they are tied in Conneticut,
I feel the winds of change blowing.
No time for beauty contests she only rushes somewhere to gain attention. She left the people who voted for her in South Carolina for dead.
Not very first lady like and certainly not presidential.
Honestly she is displaying weakness of the highest calibre which isnt in in keeping with the President of the United States

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NinaK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:51:34 GMT

There is no doubt the Clintons are mentally unstable.
How many times did Hillary change her persona in Iowa, remember the "likeability tour", then the "softer Hillary", remember how she named everything the Hill-a-something or other? Then in New Hampshire she pretends to cry (I didn't see her wiping any tears away) using the gender card. Oh yes, New Hampshire is where she "finally found her voice"! Then in Nevada, she & Bill tryed to defranchise the voters using the Teachers' Union. You bet, they were behind that--good friends of theirs were major players in that union., then we get ready to go to South Carolina and the criticism of and attacks on Mr. Obama intensify and get dirtier. Now she pulls this crappola. Also, now they are trying to make Bill Clinton "gentler". In amidst all the Clinton campaign Hillary and Bill, their campaign, and their supporters and surrogates have continually used lies, distortions, race baiting, and slash-&-burn tactics to attack Senator Obama.

JUST WHO IS HILLARY CLINTON? HOW MANY INTERCHANGING PERSONALITIES DOES SHE HAVE? The only thing stable about her is her huge hips and big butt!! Guess someone told her how strong" she looks when she waves her arms around dramatically. This is another of her new Personas as of late. Oh, and let's not forget, she's even learned to speak a little softer! She reminds me of the "Faces of Eve". She is a fraud! She is corrupt! She is a liar! She is weak--has to have her cheating lying hubby to hold her up. Hillary is devoid of honesty, character, and integrity. Hillary is not to be trusted, in fact, she is downright scary!!

By contrast the Mr. Obama we see today is the same Mr. Obama who announced his run for the Presidency.
The Mr. Edwards we see today, is the same Mr. Edwards we saw when he announded his run for the Presidency.

JUST WHICH OF THE PERSONAS IS REALLY HILLARY CLINTON?
get ready folks, we'll be seeing many more persona changes as the campaign goes on. Yep, she's unstable!

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Sherri — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:51:55 GMT

I agree, Dan Abrams is the only one fair to all candidates. The media in general is horrible to Hillary. If Obama won tonight, trust me that would out shine McCain's win for the pundits! People are not supporting Obama for all his know-how but to prove they aren't racist. How anyone can think 18 months in the Senate is enough baffles me(especially if your last name is Kennedy). If Hillary only had 18 months under her belt, they wouldn't even let her on the ballot! I am sick of having a president without experience! We need a Clinton once again to clean up after a Bush!!!

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Pete, Austin, Texas — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:52:05 GMT

Requests to The Media for investigative reporting:
1) How do the early four states feel about Hillary tossing them overboard? Do they feel lied to because she's going to try to get Florida and Michigan delegates seated?
2) Are super-delegates worried about the long-term effects of Hillary's continued slash-and-burn strategy?
3) What percentage of Hillary's Florida "win" comes from old early-voter ballots? What percentage of voters who decided in the last few days went for Obama?
4) Why could Hillary -- who is well-known in Florida compared to Obama -- not beat him by a margin anywhere near as close as he beat her in SC, where they both campaigned vigorously, with The Clintons doing everything they could to knee-cap him?

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goldenstate — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:52:42 GMT

I think Hillary will win big on Super Tuesday. She's leading in the major states. I'm glad she did well in Florida.

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Rick, Chicago Ill — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:55:59 GMT

Denise, what does Barack have to explain? It's an excellent commercial from his campaign featuring a woman who happened to endorse him. Well, not just any woman.

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SJS, Kansas City, MO — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:56:21 GMT

Deal with it: Hillary won big time, and the votes--these are actual citizens being represented, folks--will be counted by summertime.

Maybe Florida Dems are reflecting a larger reality: Obama is an untested, one-speech-deep media darling who isn't ready to be president.

Go HIllary! See you on Super Tuesday!

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Vince, Madison NJ — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 04:59:14 GMT

Here's how I see it...The DNC shouldn't have wiped out Florida or Mich. delegates when they did...BUT, they did it and when they did I didn't hear a fuss from either Clinton or Obama...so now that she won it wouldn't be right to give the delegates to Clinton...clinton supporters know this is true deep down. Obama didn't campaign there and Obviously does not have the name recognition that CLinton has...What did suprise me was that Clinton won almost 2:1 voters who voted a month ago via mail-ins...but Obama won those who voted today! That is suprising, I think both campaigns would acknowledge that off the record. I think Clinton will prob. wind up the nominee, BUT 3 months ago I would have given her 5:1 odds and now its more like 5;4...Feb. 5th is going to be interesting...especially since there is no winner take all states...People forget, when Obama "blew-out CLinton" in Iowa he got like 2 more delegates, she got 1 more in NH...I think he got 1 more in Nevada...other then for momentum, and pride...winning by 1-2 pts. doesn't matter as much as people think...the race is going to be decided by who "blows-out" the other in more states.

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Jen — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:02:08 GMT

(WaPo's Milbank piece) ...Campaign mgr Patti Solis Doyle who last summer committed Clinton to signing the Florida boycott pledge, saying, "We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process, and we believe the DNC's rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role."

Umm, how is saying "I will do everything I can to seat the delegates" not changing the rules halfway through the game with the rules already established??? The very rules they purported they would "respect and honor?" HillBillyShrillaryBillary thought they'd be coronated by now... LMAOROFL

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mike, dallas, TX — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:02:54 GMT

I hope CNN will consider John King moderate the next CNN democratic presidential debate. John is very smart, conscientious and informative.The last two debates moderated by Blitzer were high in fire works but low in substance because he lost control by encouraging a 'Jerry Springer show 'like atmosphere. Let us face it, we didn't see that kind of a breakdown of discipline when Tim Russert moderated.

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Dan, Seattle — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:03:28 GMT

Congratulation HRC! It must feel awesome to win in such a convincing manner. It was similar to Obama's route in SC.

In a similar vane, you could have helped Gore in 2000 by pleading that he was the true winner since he won the popular vote. That pesky electoral college.

Play by the rules, please. Oh, that's right, that's not your MO.

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Chris Portland, OR — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:03:46 GMT

Just wait until February 5th, when all of this Clinton-bashing backfires on all the little Obama supporters, and they start whining about how the got cheated. The nastiness towards the Clintons has been unbelieveable, and is a disgrace to our party and our nation.

Hill `08

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Charles — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:06:49 GMT

Well, it is too bad that the Democrats disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of voters in two states - seems very undemocratic... after all the state should be able to choose when to have its primary. I wonder about the legality of this. However, the Democratic Florida vote is an indicator. Unlike the Zogby, CNN and other polls - there is nothing like having hundreds of thousands of voters register their preference. Florida has meaning - it shows Hillary to have much wider support in a diverse state. I suspect that Feb 5 is not going to be a happy day for the Obama camp ( I do like Obama ) however I think it is going to be very tough. I am no fan of Hillary but I will end up voting for her not because she has a charming personality which she seldom exhibits but (1) because she has repeatedly demonstrated that she studies hard and can articulate her views clearly (usually unimaginativly in list form) (2) she really has deeper experience with Congress, (3) Bill is a huge asset (he has been their before) and finally because in the same way that George Bush was pushed on the electorate (with little real experience) and with few knowing enough about him - I feel Obama is being pushed on an eloquent "change" message and again with the electorate not really knowing what we are getting. We have already endured a naive and hopelessly out-of-his-league President - I don't want to place my bets on another one - just because they're a democrat. I honestly don't want to take a chance on someone that hasn't been thoroughly examined by a skeptical media and seems to lack deep experience. The current media examination has been pretty weak and has mostly been an anti-Hillary Campaign by Chris Matthews and others. I wish they would put an end to their grudges. In any case - let the games begin on Feb 5th ;-)

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Latino Voter in Arizona — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:07:52 GMT

The significance here is that more Democrats came out to vote than Republicans. Further, the significance here is that a large and diverse population showed up to vote. And, they came out to vote in big numbers for Hillary Clinton. They showed a high level of excitement. They will be seated at the convention--and they will be seated for Hillary Clinton!

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Sarazip Wolf Creek OR — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:08:53 GMT

Yep. Billary will do ANYTHING. Whitewater / Monica / impeachment / disbarment. Do we want that back in the White House?

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R C — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:09:09 GMT

Hillary Clinton gave her word to Iowa and New Hampshire that the delegates in Florida and Michigan would not count. New Hampshire should be crying now that they trusted her. When Hillary leaves a state she no longer cares what they think.

Let's not forget that she belittled Iowa when she left by saying it was a caucus and undemocratic.

She never publicly thanked her hard working volunteers in South Carolin she just got up and left town. Once she uses people she discards them. She shows very little loyalty

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Bill Johnson, Anaconda, Montana — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:10:29 GMT

The good news is that those voters who voted during the past 30 days went for Obama. When voters get to know him, he wins. For the next week all Oboma supporters in all of those primary states have to be talking up Obama. He will pull this thing out yet.

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Bill Johnson, Anaconda, Montana — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:10:29 GMT

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Kenny — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:13:33 GMT

Facts:

(1) Barack ran television ads (as late as today) in Florida in defiance of the DNC's rules. Clinton did not do this. They both had fundraisers they attended in Florida.

(2) Hillary asked the DNC to allow FL delegates at the convention long before the primary season started. AFTER the nominee is chosen, people. SHE ASKED FOR THEM TO BE SEATED ONLY AFTER THE NOMINEE WAS CHOSEN so they could participate in the political process AFTERWARDS. SHE HAS NOT ASKED FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR THE CANDIDATE!!!

WE ARE SO EASILY MANIPULATED.

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BubbaDownSouth — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:17:11 GMT

Rob in CA said:

"No one should be naive about this whole issue of seating the FL delegates at the convention. The Democratic Party is not going to insult the state of FL 2 months before the most important election in a generation! They'll seat the delegates, as well as the ones from Michigan..."

You are correct.
I think Barack is wearing Monica' Lewinsky's old blue dress again. He needs to quit whining.
You can't piss and moan about Hillary, when you are doing worse things.
Barack and some of the others were dumb enough to have their names taken off the Michigan ballot. Not Hillary, she has the ability to think strategically. If you can't think strategically, you don't deserve to be President.
In Florida, all three candidates were on the ballot and Hillary was the runaway favorite. In addition, Barack bought cable advertising in Florida. Clinton did not. And, she will have tremendous momentum going into Feb. 5th. She will win all of those states, except Illinois. It will be known as Hillary Tuesday, like the day after Thanksgiving is known as Black Friday. The numbers are the numbers.

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Adam, Sacramento — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:17:46 GMT

This is kind of like the team that goes 4-0 in the preseason arguing that record should qualify them for a playoff position.

If clinton felt that way she could have taken this position in november. She could have told iowa and New Hampshire You shouldn't have a special advantage in your primary dates. Florida and Michigan should be able to hold their primary outside the agreed timeframe and still get delegates.

Then she could be arguing today florida was contested. Instead she told the voters of Iowa and NH I support your special place. Then as soon as there vote was cast she changed position and said Umm Florida and michigan should count?

Is that the kind of politics we really want. She is supporting florida a little late. You might say she was against florida before she was for it.

Kind of like she was for the war before she was against it.

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Atiq, Dhaka, Bangladesh — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:17:51 GMT

It seems a CRAZY campaign between the duo - Hillary and Obama. So far, being an outsider, based on the info - I prefer Obama though I can't vote him!

Hillary with her husband seem to campaign for a desperate drive - just like in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and around - to form and have a family dynasty in Politics - more than the authority and commitment and ability. Anyway, choose the best leader and let him/her lead the nation and world with peace...

Hope it will be published.

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R C — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:24:24 GMT

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DB, St. Louis, MO — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:25:24 GMT

Obama won most of the FL 2008 straw votes. Hillary won most of the 2007 FL straw votes. The future vs. the past again. Obama will only agree to seat the FL and MI delegates only AFTER the nominee is selected.
Given the rules, and the way this primary season is playing out, this is likely to be a "brokered" convention, and the nominee will be chosen by John Edwards and the majority of the Super Delegates, (most of whom the Clinton's have already alienated). The choice will be made on the basis of who can beat McCain, and, in most pol's and pundit's opinion, that's not Hillary. The party will not commit suicide three election cycles in a row. You heard it here first.

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Jim — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:26:28 GMT

Florida's votes should have been allowed (as well as Michigan's), but that decision was made long ago. All three candidates agreed to not campaign in Florida. That notwithstanding, Clinton's "win" wasn't very impressive considering she danced around the rules by showing up in Florida three times right before the campaign for "fundraising."

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Tim, Colorado Springs, Co — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:27:00 GMT

Not that it matters, but I am extremely disappointed in the voice of America these days. To negate the voting of two entire states is completely wrong! And to see many . . . I mean 'many' Americans support this is absolutely mind boggling. If I were a Floridian I would not vote for 'any' candidate that went along with this so-called rule. It is as unamerican as anything that I have ever heard and is as arrogant and crazy of a political gesture I could ever have imagined. Is this the United States of America? Where are your scruples Americans? Why would you support or vote for anyone who would go along with this type of exclusion of the American voter? The DNC is wrong and any candidate who went along with this is even worse and shows his/her true aspirations and integrity toward the American public. I don't support Hillary to be President, however, I do think that she is at least giving creedence to the people who have supported her in Florida. This I believe is the 'right' thing to do, no matter what her motivations. On the other hand, you have Obama and Edwards who have turned their back on 'two' different states because they simply don't mean anything to them. Sounds like the executive who ignores the custodian! Again, where is your heart and soul America . . . can't you see what is happening?

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NinaK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:27:48 GMT

Denise posted: OMG, how is Senator Obama going to explain this

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid353515028/bctid1396506113

This is unbelievable. I am in tears
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Denise, thank you for sharing this very touching video. I misted also. President John F. Kennedy was the best!! I am sure Caroline sees the parallels between her father and Senator Obama and this is something she wanted to do for Senator Obama. When she endorsed him, her title was, "A President Like My Father". I admire her greatly for her courage.

Am sure Hillary and Bill will be all over this one! But how can they be critical of Caroline's wishes? If they have ANY respect for President John F. Kennedy and his family, they WILL LEAVE THIS ONE ALONE. If they don't then shame on them!

Thank you Caroline! I loved your father and your family, Jackie, John and you! I remember seeing you and John playing in the Oval Office while your father worked at his desk. I remember all of you playing on the lawn in front of the White House. Yes, Caroline, those were great days for America! I still love you!

I was around when President Kennedy was in Office, I remember that fatal day we lost him. It was a sad, sad day for America and I believe a portion of our spirit died with him that day. May he rest in Peace.

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Debra, Titusville, FL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:29:35 GMT

Regardless of whether you're for Hillary or Obama, there is no other way to describe her actions tonight except ridiculous. It looked like an act of desperation from a candidate who had just manufactured some sort of self-appointed victory. It was embarassing for her, and she certainly did not come across as presidential.

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Shelly, Ga — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:31:09 GMT

I'd just like to thank MSNBC for handling this story fairly and reporting it factually. Hillary is insane and desperate. No one is saying that Floridians don't count. Of course, they do. However, the rules were set by the DNC and agreed on by Obama, Edwards and Clinton earlier on. She only wants to make a big deal out of Florida now because she is behind. She can feel that Obamas momentum is about to blow her away. Barack Obama is not like any other candidate. Barack Obama is the candidate of our time! THE CANDIDATE! THE ONE! Like a MLK, JFK, or RFK. People like these come around every 40 years or so. You just can't compete with that. Hillary is a former first lady with a popular husband...she has the connections. She still can't shake Barack Obama! Why is that? Surely she should have left Obama in the dust by now....lol. Instead he is giving her a real run for her money and she can't believe it. I think her supporters would do better to come over and support Obama because Clinton is done. I'm sure she felt that after the Kennedy Family endorsement. That was real. You just can't compete with that. Oh, and Hillary, you didn't get any delegates hun. You put together a party and gave a speech that no one listened to and I'd bet even those who listened can't remember anything you said. Forgetable...... What a waste..You could have been campaigning in states were delegates were on the line instead. Also Obama earned a great number of votes for someone who did not campaign in Florida and where Independents were not allowed to vote...WATCH OUT!

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Sean, Nashville, Tennessee — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:33:32 GMT

Why am I not surprised that Hillary went down to Florida? The Clintons will do anything to win. They want to steal the election from Obama by trying to make the delegates count. The DBC established the rules, decided months in advance. You can't just change the rules when it doesn't go your way.

Hopefully Democrats everywhere realize that it is time to pass the torch to someone new and different. Ted Kennedy understands this. The days of the Old Clinton Guard are over. We need someone who inspires us. That person is Barack Obama.

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Marie — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:34:38 GMT

Simon Rosenberg, longtime Clinton friend and supporter, wrote "But there is a line in politics where tough and determined becomes craven and narcissistic, where advocacy becomes spin, and where integrity and principle is lost. I am concerned that this Florida gambit by the Clinton campaign is once again putting two of my political heroes too close - or perhaps over - that line." http://ndnblog.org/blog/7

I put it this way: If you and I are walking down the street to a shop, you start running and when you reach it, turn back and yell, "beat you!!!" is that a victory? No, because I didn't know we were racing, and I wasn't prepared.

The candidates said they would not campaign in FL; did not campaign and did not treat it as they had a race. Thus, Hillary did not "win."

Furthermore, she could care less about voter participation. It is not about any of the candidates saying FL doesn't matter; it's about the other candidates honoring a pledge, as wise or unwise at it may have been for the DNC to extract such a pledge.

I hope Latinos follow Ted Kennedy, and sniff out the lies of the Billary machine.

If not Obama or Edwards, I vote McCain.

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Mike Jordan, Malibu, Calif. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:35:16 GMT

Chris and Keith: PLEASE READ THIS. I've always loved MSNBC, my first choice, always, when it comes to cable news. BUT NOT ANYMORE! Their obvious Obama lovefest, spinning every bit of news to glorify the new savior, is sickening. I like Obama, and I like Hillary. But I do not like my ex-favorite MSNBC being so biased with starry-eyed praise for one candidate and so negative against the other. Get some balance, or I'm off to CNN! And I guarentee, I am not the only one.

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P. Walker, Memphis, TN — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:36:43 GMT

I, for one, would love to see a viperous and lively campaign in both Florida & Michigan for the Democratic Party nomination for president.
To this end the state democratic parties in both states should petition the Democratic National Committee to allow them to offer to set up & pay for a competitive campaign in both states with voting to be held, say on the 2nd Tuesday in June.
This would allow every candidate and their supporters the opportunity to campaign there.
It would also demonstrate to the citizens of these states that their state parties are aware of the losses suffered by their members in their states and are willing to make good.
Finally, it would be an awesome book end to an awesome primary season on the democratic side.
In this way there would be none of the;
You broke a promise,
or
You do not respect us.
or
You are not interested in us or our positions.
I think that perhaps as an alternative, if the states demonstrated regret for their actions that clearly violated party rules, the National Committee and the remaining candidates should devise a means to split the costs of these rescheduled primaries.
To seat or otherwise give credence to delegates that are being awarded based upon a campaign that did not occur would be the biggest mistake in a long line of them to this point.
Again..
Reschedule these primaries far enough out for all of the candidates to plan their strategies and let's run a couple of hard fought, good primaries that, in the end would place these states in a position of extreme primacy in this year of protracted campaigning.
Just an idea though.

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Dori Thompson, Albert Lea, Minnesota — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:39:30 GMT

What a despicable display from Hillary! She made a promise to her team mates, then took a dump in their oatmeal. What happened to uniting and not dividing?Watching her news conference tonight made me sick to my stomach. Lies, deception, she cares for us! Bull! She has only cared about her political career. That is the only reason she stayed married to a man who cheated on her several times, remember Jennifer Flowers?, Monica Lewinsky? There were more I just can't name them, what woman in her right mind does this? That's just it, she's not in her right mind. I personally would have had more respect for her if she had divorced slick Willy and TRULY made it on her own!
Please dear God, help us not to have Hillary on the ballot. Dear Hillary supportors, may the scales be lifted from your eyes so that you may see the truth.
Go Obama, YES WE CAN!!!!

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Nancy Bekker — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:42:03 GMT

SHAME ON MSNBC. Since when did your news department become a wing of the Democratic Party. There was an election in Florida and it is your responsibility to fully cover it. Instead, you were used as a tool of the DNC. A great network really blew it this time. It is not your job to toe the line, just because the DNC made a ruling. It is your job to cover the news. It was just terrible the way you were used, downplaying a real election in which 1.5 million Democrats voted, almost relegating it to non-news. If you want to have credibility, cover the news. If you want to be a mouthpiece for the DNC, then tell all of us so we can go to CNN for our news. At least they posted the results in the ticker. You couldn't even do that! Oh, did you need permission from Howard Dean and couldn't get it? Shame on all of you!

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T Crawford — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:42:32 GMT

for all of you complaining about nbc's obama bias...
paul bagala, james carville, craig crawford
if you actually follow this stuff you'll know what i mean, all unabashedly spin in the name of Clinton, without temperance or shame. for eight months the media attention was so strongly in clinton's corner. do you quickly forget the age of inevitability? can you really even think for a second that the unfavorable press of the past week (yes only one week, she got a free pass in NH and Nevada, relative to the tricks they were pulling) is undeserved? should deception be rewarded by silence? it was only when obama called her out at a national debate that this came front and center.
and if you really think that evidence of another president willing to employ cut throat, underhanded, write the rules as you go, divide and conquer strategies is not newsworthy then you should really rethink which country you'd prefer to live in...

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True This, NY NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:46:17 GMT

McCain will win in November. Hillary is too divisive and very dirty.

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Obama News Network, LA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:46:46 GMT

Wow! The reporters on Obama News Network were pained to even mention the results of the Democratic primary in spite of the fact that Senator Obama spent millions on tv ads there on cable. If Senator Obama had won the primary they would have shown the results. I can't believe that Obama News Network didn't even show the returns. I assume that when Senator Obama loses the nomination that they'll be showing reruns of Hardball on election night in November instead of showing the returns.

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Bryce K. Dixon — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:51:43 GMT

Hillary won fair and square in Florida and she is going to be the DNC nominee. The Obama supporters and all their negative response is not going to change the vote tally, so there.... I do agree that the news pundits are high anti-Hillary, but its the peoples vote that counts.... so get over

Hillary 08!!

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Hypocrisy rules Obama — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:52:12 GMT

Florida Fact check: (Since Chuck & co wont say it):

Whose name was on the ballot: Obama, Edwards, Clinton
Who had fundraisers in FLA: Obama, Edwards, Clinton
Who campaigned in FLA personally: No one
Who ran ads in Florida: Obama

When all 3 names are on the ballot and when people are allowed to see ads, then how can anyone call it unopposed?

May be some intelligent electorate have lost their intelligence.

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Gary D , Amherst NH — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:55:50 GMT

History has proven that the "mob" psyche will cause thousands upon thousands to follow blindly in the face of contrarian obviousness. Obama is indeed an untested entity in areas that will require presidential attributes, however, Hillary Clinton has shown her abusive power hungry side. Before you jump on board with Hillary please read how she treated her own white house staff. She is evil incarnate. In NY she speaks with a NY accent. In the south she speaks with a southern accent. She may have found her voice but beyond her personage her spirit speaks with "forked tongue". Let's give dignity back to America. The Clintons "dirtied" the White House. Our country today is not suffering from the Republican tenure but from the immoral degradation created by the Clintons....and that is based on just what we know about. There was supposedely a lot of "hush" money being parlayed during those Lincoln Bedroom sojourn days or nights...Well, I know that the criminal element is rousting for Hillary .....ahhh...those presidential pardons. Pardons should be based on deserved substance and not just on brazen presidential privilege. Vote Hillary and get a "get out of jail" card.

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Aidyn — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 05:59:57 GMT

Congratulations Senator!!!

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John Willington — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:00:49 GMT

Are you kidding me. Who made the decision to move the polls, it sure wasn't every single person of the many millions of voters. Somebodies stupid mistake of moving the poll date should ABSOLUTELY NOT eliminate many millions of voters! We have a voice and we should be heard! We are not responsible for a simple mistake made by someone who wasn't thinking first. Our votes count, so COUNT them. Plain and simple.

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NinaK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:01:12 GMT

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Joe, Houston — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:02:48 GMT

It has also been verified that Obama/Clinton dropped ads and visited Florida. Come on Edwards, you should have renegged on your promise! It appears everyone else does it!

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Catherine, Pearland, Texas — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:04:42 GMT

I congratulate Senator Clinton on the Florida vote. It is a miracle that she is doing as well as she is. I was unprepared for the sexism in the media and the hatred for President Clinton whom she is tarred and feathered with. For example, remarks like Chris Matthews made about her winning only because of being a wronged woman have been abusive and biased beyond belief. There has been so little said about her fine record in the senate which even Republicans were impressed with until she ran for office. Senator Obama talks about uniting when Clinton has a record of working with both sides of the aisle. On CNN last night, Anderson Cooper interviewed Senator Obama after the state of the union address and asked him how he differs with Senator Clinton's policies. His reply totally skirted the issue. He basically said that all of the democratic candidates had policies reflecting important issues but that he was the only one qualified to make the changes. Did anyone see that discussed in the media today - no! - I don't think so! If it would have been Senator Clinton waffling on that question, it probably would have made headline news. Also, I have only heard one time in the media and just as a sort of an off the cuff remark about the fact that Senator Obama sought out the company of Ted Kennedy from the moment he got to the senate and that Kennedy has been his mentor. Senator Clinton, no doubt, would have been accused of "courting" Kennedy's sponsorship if he had mentored and endorsed her. In his endorsement of Senator Obama, Kennedy spoke of "stale" and old approaches to problems by other candidates. What would you call Senator Obama's health care plan which leaves out an estimated 15 million Americans - how about just calling it another old stale half-hearted approach to the health care needs of millions of Americans. Senator Obama will be handled very carefully by the media because he is African American and make no mistake about it in America being accused of racism is far worse than being accused of sexism. So - Senator Clinton, the vote in Florida is hopefully a reflection of the fact that the democrats in Florida have ignored the vitriolic media messages and voted for you because you have stated your policies in writing and in speeches and in debates and they preferred those policies to the other candidates - and that while Senator Obama is a very skilled orator he frequently only speaks in a form of persuasion sometimes referred to as "glittering generalities". Keep up stating your position on issues and just maybe despite running against the media, rampant gender bias, and the other candidates -you just may win the democratic nomination and the presidency.

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Chris, Alger Ohio — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:04:46 GMT

omg people listen to Clare Jackson, Kansas City KS she is crazy does she not understand to say obama is "stupid" for obeying the rules is really stupid on your part and remember since the delegates werent going to count how many people stayed home and didnt vote? so really you cant say hillary won..therefore if the delegates do get counted im sure obama will have a re-vote because alot of people didnt vote for that reason

Obama '08!

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BubbaDownSouth — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:07:38 GMT

JD, Seattle, WA

Actually, Michelle Obama reminds me more of Omarosa from the Apprentice than Hillary does.
Hillary reminds me more of "The Donald", except Hillary has "bigger balls" (more Chutspah) than "The Donald."

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T Crawford — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:08:09 GMT

of the 59% of all voters who made up their minds either LAST YEAR or ahead of time by absentee, Hillary did well. however, those that have made up their minds in the past month (the people actually paying attention to the race in real time) tells a much different story. exit polls from the new york times.
as ususal, hillary wins over age 45, obama wins under. the real battle of self identifiers may not be gender or race, but generation...
also, obama wins large swaths of north florida, more evidence of red and purple appeal.

voters by when they made their decision...

clinton obama Edwards
Today
10% 34 30 29
Within three days of primary
7% 38 46 14
In the last week
7% 31 39 26
In the last month
16% 40 47 12
Before that
33% 63 27 9
Voted absentee
26% 50 31 14

feb 5th is going to be one hell of a race...

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OneCommonMan, Seattle, WA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:08:15 GMT

Obama Supporters, Quiet!
1) Obama broke the rules against campaigning by running an ad on cable television - and he still lost.
2) Clinton, Obama and Edwards were all on the ballot.
3) Over two million democrats voted when even after being told their votes would not count.
4) Clinton did not campaign in Florida and is the only candidate fighting to give the voters rights in Florida. We Lose Florida in the General Election if we don't Recognize the Delegates.
5) Obama made a big mistake saying that Floridian Democrats have no say in this election. Add that to his hypocrisy in running television ads and he has damaged his credibility.
6) Clinton, regardless of all of this, Won the Primary in a Landslide Victory that serves as a prelude to Super Tuesday! As Florida Goes, Goes the Nation!

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cheryl az — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:15:45 GMT

All 3 candidates were on the ballot and Obama ran ads all week long and some reported he ran as many as McCain. In addition the candidates had the people who were campaigning for them out there trying to get votes. One guy had a cut out of Obama parading the streets. Obama also had fundraisers there too. They just could not personally campaign there. Whether it counts or not we should not minimize the voters. I would be furious if I voted and then they said it didn't count. The voters didn't make the decision so why sould they be punished. Even if Obama or Edwards won I would feel the same way. I thought it wasn't fair for Michigan either. I see nothing wrong with Hillary thanking the people who voted for her. I hope all the candidates appreciate it when we as americans give them our vote.

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OneCommonMan, Seattle, WA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:21:12 GMT

I just watched Oberman and Williams interview Hillary. What is the deal with Keith? I don't know if I can watch him anymore. For so long he was a voice for my wife and I as he railed against Bush in his commentaries. He has such disdain for Hillary and it comes off as sexist and dark; akin to his continual assault on sick young women like Brittany.

Come to think of it, the entire MSNBC team is anti Hillary. Listen to Norah. Look at her glazed, in love with Obama eyes. When she reports Hillary's win in Florida, she only says, "Hillary got more votes than the other two candidates". Not "landslide with campaigning". She says, "what she calls her win" when referring to Hillary's mind boggling win!

Lastly, why is CNN and FOX news showing the Florida Dems results at the bottom of the screen but MSNBC only shows the Republicans?

Wow, this news show is losing credibility at high speeds!

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Michael James — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:22:01 GMT

It was a three way tie in Florida since all Democratic candidates won zero delegates.

In every state where Senator Obama has campaigned, he has either won big or Hillary's campaign dirty tricks have made it a close race.

The Florida results tonight should actually be very, very, very worrisome to the Clintonites. The early voting went HRC's way, however, that was before the tidal wave of endorsements and positive media coverage of Obama. The Florida exit polling showed that, among people who voted today, they broke evenly between Senator Obama and Hillary.

Oh, by the way, to use a sports metaphor, allowing Clinton to actually receive delegates from this farce would be about the same thing as allowing a spring training win to count in the regular season standings. The rules were clear from the beginning that there was to be no campaigning and no delegates would be awarded. I guess I'm not surprised that Clinton is trying to cheat her way to some extra delegates, but it's amazing to see such a brazen attempt to circumvent the rules of the Democratic party -- you know, the one whose nomination she is seeking?

In closing, I will remind the Hillary-bots that Senator Barack Obama has more pledged delegates vs. Hillary.

Thank you, good night and may God bless the United States of America.

Barack Obama = Change We Can Believe In

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Russell wells,Maine — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:29:23 GMT

Boy the queen is not the queen yet and bill not the king..I hope super tuesday changes it and the indep and undecided better wake up or it going to be 4 yrs of having a queen with a king really running the show and if The My firend wins he wont be shooting straight..between now and super tuesday i encourage the indep and undecided to consider Obama, or Mitt its better than what we get...I like Ron Paul is a straight shooter and but press doesnt like him and he doesnt have the money and the media needs the money to stuff there pockets iterso hes a long shot...oh well politics as usual and they are taking this country right down the -- iter. The rep and the dem in the senate cant even agree to the stimulus unless they get there own package in im floored at the billions more they want just to say it was our party who got it...I hope they change you and get you out of washington..And your only doing it because some of you are up for re election..What a bumber you come first... and those who have served this country will have nothing to come home to....Thanks to washington politcs of we come first.

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OneCommonMan, Seattle, WA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:30:25 GMT

Wolf Blitzer just congratulated Hillary on her WIN IN FLORIDA! This guy has class. Out classes this MSNBC crowd!

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Teddy Simon, Chicago, IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:31:07 GMT

I agree with all the posts about MSNBCs love affar with Obama and I am a journalist. I don't mind that they like him but there is not even a shread of an attempt to remain neutral. Tonight there were all these "facial quirks" and litte "snide comments" as they talked about Clinton. This is what women deal with everyday. By the way for the first time in my life I emailed a senator's office (ted Kennedy) and told him in strong terms he too should have remained nuetral and let people make up their own mines. CLinton supports can go to his and email him too.

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Bull the Dog — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:31:36 GMT

"Clinton was the only candidate to step foot in South Carolina..." I don't know if this person missed the mark or is simply ignorant, but Clinton did vigorously campaign in South Carolina on Thursday, while her husband has been tere since Monday before the Saturday voting.
A lot of th people on this forum display pure ignorance and some will say anything to influence tohers, and still others will accuse the media whenever their favorite candidate makes a gaffe.
Many voters seem to be fed bullshit than fact-checked information.

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Mr. sensible, NH — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:42:21 GMT

To the people the JUDGE the rest of us as Hillary haters....

Have you stopped for a moment to consider that maybe some of us did NOT exactly believe what Hillary speaks at a great value? Some of us have enough know-how and ability to seek the facts and truths.. Some of us didn't blindly, onesided or foolishly choose to support a candidate just because they seem to be honest.

Some of us know HOW to take the information to the next level and try to find ALL other possibilities to confirm its fact or fiction. It's hard to go along with a person when you find credible resources that may differ what the candidate is selling. Have the Hillary supporters considered that?

I don't think people just automatically decide they are going to dislike or dispute a candidate based on their gender or race. For most of us, we realize that it is 2008 and times have changed. Hillary started out her campaign making things in her favor seem a lot bigger than they truly are.

She started out her campaign by being the first to belittle fellow democrats. She started out this campaign by taking the risk of airing false information. It's easy to say people seem to hate her but, have ALL of you Hillary supporters EVER considered it may be for GOOD reason? Not having any thing to do with her race or gender but, EVERYTHING to do with her ability to be candid, loyal, honest, dependable. What I am hearing from people that are watching her debate very closely is that there is a PROBLEM with her and bills loyalty, honesty and integrity.

What is coming out in the media nowadays are people that have worked with Hillary in the past and they are finding dispute with a lot of her claims! People, when you have people that are counteracting her claims because they are in question of their integrity, that is a REAL PROBLEM! We are talking about the most powerful position in the United States; does that need to be dealt with so carelessly? We have already demonstrated such irresponsibility to our politics that we have done NOTHING to stop this sort of thing from happening until now. What she is doing is old and dirty politics. It smears dirt on her campaign and it also tends to effect the other democratic candidates around her. This is NOT fair to us, to the other candidates and to the Presidency!

Again, I don't think ANYONE deliberately hates Hillary; we just question the antics she is driving and, why is she riding on a problem that no longer needs to exist? disloyalty and dirty politics... This is NOT a show of strength; it is a show of power hungry greed at the expense of the people... She really needs to STOP the dirty campaigning and explain to you, me and the entirety of America what the "experience" factor involve and HOW does she deems this is greater than others. Most important, how does a personal association with the former President (or governer) equal experience?

Her senator track record shows no greater (if not less) than some of the other candidates and she isn't doing a great job explaining HOW she obtained this presidential "experience" she continues to sell. All I have heard is that she was the "First Lady." This doesn't tell me ANYTHING about her knowledge of the presidency and how SHE thinks she obtained it. It tells me what we ALL knew back in the 90's; that she was the first lady!!

I can't throw a vote on an account of nothingness and I yet try to understand how can a person toss votes in her direction for her greatest two UNJUSTIFIED words, "experience" and "first lady." She needs to break this WAY down and show me the relatives between these two and how she feels they equal her having "experience" as the President...

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C F Ahlquist — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:43:30 GMT

This is not an attack on the comments of others, it is a formal complaint on the nature of the remarks as they attack children and disabled individuals.
I can't believe whomever looks at and approves these posts allowed Hillary Clinton to be compared to a child with disabilities who "rides the short bus" "wins the special Olympics and then brags about it" and other outwardly discriminatory and defamatory remarks about disabled children. I ask that this post be removed as it is a slap in the face to all disabled children, especially those who have won medals in the Special Olympics. Further, it is a shame that the voters of Florida are being punished for prior acts. SO WHAT if a candidate wants to thank them and celebrate the victory there?

Moderator, for your use, this is the post I am requesting be removed:

It does appear that Hillary rides the short bus.

Mark Leonard, Pittsburgh (Sent Tuesday, January 29, 2008 10:19 PM)

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Voting4Obama, LHC, AZ — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:49:26 GMT

MICHAEL in Tampa---be careful, your bigotry against Obama is very transparent. The only thing Floridians have spoken to is their insatiable appetite for voting for crooks and liars. First BUSH---now BILLARY. Only people voting are those who can't remember "from day one" who they're voting for or when to change their Depends.

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Bob, NY, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:50:36 GMT

Obama actually was first to break the pledge when he talked to reporters after a fundraiser back in September according to the Tampa Bay Tribune. He then claimed that he did not know it was part of the pledge but he did break it.

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Robert, Sacramento, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:50:45 GMT

Once again we see that Hillary will do anything to win. They over play by the rules when it benefits them. She refused to remove her name in Michigan and claimed victory there. If she is so concerned about the voters of Florida, why didn't they settle the dispute prior to the election. We will now see another legal battle in Florida, because Clinton won't play fair.

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Dharma Ward — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 06:55:58 GMT

If BARACK was so UNIFYING he would try to unify the country and have the votes of the great state of Florida counted. He is just as much a play by the rules politician as the rest of them. And as far as the Kennedy endorsements go, I am from Mass and frankly Senator Kennedy is a has been--he has NEVER been offered any good jobs in the White House and maybe this is his big chance. Also, Caroline Kennedy has stayed out of politics and while I DO respect and appreciate the sacrifice she made for this country forty years ago when she was six and her dad was taken from her, it is a little bizarre for her to be saying that Barack is most like her father. Seriously, what she has learned about her dad's politics she learned from others. No disrespect intended but this is becoming a popularity contest.
The Kennedy endorsement was politics as usual. FINALLY, NO ONE ever says anything about the fact that BARACK has been virtually truant from his duties in Washington--long before he started running. Is this the kind of change he is going to bring -- by not showing up? Why didn't he show up the majority of the time?

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Hillary for REAL Change — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:11:41 GMT

Hillary believes Florida voters matter! Lobby the Florida and National DNC and let them know you want your votes to count and Florida's delegates to be seated at the DNC Convention in August! This election is the most important election of your lives! Florida MUST be a part of this historic vote. If they won't count these votes and seat these delegates, lobby the DNC and demand they set a new caucus or primary date for Florida to vote again, that will do it! NOW is a good time to raise your voices and make sure they are heard and your votes count Florida. Contact the DNC! Vote for Hillary for REAL change, Hillary all the way!!

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Myrna Simon, Oklahoma City, OK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:17:11 GMT

I am a Sen. Obama supporter for now but I would like to see the Florida delegates seated anyway. The DNC and State party of Florida are the ones with the disagreement, not the voters. We had a similar problem in 1972 and lost the election by a landslide.
If we have eight more years in Iraq we will be bankrupt and this will seem very pity. Can you stand eight more years of a Bush-like on steroids?

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Steve Daytona Beach — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:18:01 GMT

First, let's set the record straight: Hillary did not break any rules set down or agreed upon prior to the vote in Florida. Next, let's move on to all the whining this party did in 2000 about how every vote should be counted. Today I guess that translates into those votes should only be counted when they are for Obama. Then I guess we can discuss how they got 9 "at-large" precincts in the las vegas casinos just so the hotel union could try to sway the vote for the person they supported (mind you, it was the union bosses that supported Obama. However the union members supported Hillary, so that one backfired) At every turn in this campaign, Barack Obama has whined about being unfairly targeted(who injected race into the campaign), about how sometimes he doesn't know who he's running against (Oprah...by the way, where did she go?), and his famous quote from Iowa: "you can't say yesterday you are against something and then today have them spend three-quartes of a million dollars on your campaign" (check this link out about outside spending for Obama: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/30/us/politics/30donate.html?hp ). Finally, I can remember just a month ago when all the pundits where wondering who Kennedey would support and speculated it would be Hillary because of her long standing relationship with him, how all you Obama supporters were saying "so what? he's a murderer and a drunk" yet today he is the second coming of the Christ. Here is another link to what the rest of the Kennedeys are saying. Notice, instead of basing their support on fluff and poetic sermons, their support is founded on solid reasoning and past experience: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-kennedy29jan29,0,1618955.story

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wavey — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:23:49 GMT

VICTORY OF TRICKERY BY BILLARY!!!

KEY POINTS OF THE BILLARY TRICKERY:
Billary told their FLA. supporters that they would change the Dem rules and have the Billary delegates seated and voting in the Dem convention. BILLARY SUPPORTERS CAME OUT TO VOTE.
Obama and Edwards were respectful of the Dem rules. THEY DID NOT TELL their FLA. supporters that they would change the Dem rules and have their delegates seated and voting in the Dem convention. OBAMA AND EDWARDS SUPPORTERS DID NOT COME OUT TO VOTE IN COMPETITIVE NUMBERS.

THAT IS HOW BILLARY TRICKERY WON IN FLORIDA.

BILLARY WILL DO OR SAY ANYTHING TO WIN.
BREAKING, TWISTING, OR MANIPULATING THE DEM RULES MEANS NOTHING TO THEM.

THAT IS HOW BILLARY ALWAYS WINS--
AND NOW IN FLORIDA-- AGAIN--THE VICTORY OF TRICKERY BY BILLARY!!!

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Susannah Atlanta, GA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:30:32 GMT

Ben, you're severely uninformed. Barack Obama not only campaigned in South Carolina, but his wife actually told African Americans to vote for him because he is black. She specifically said that, "Black America will wake up and get it." Furthermore, Obama traveled around SC with a gay baiting minister/gospel singer named Donnie McClurkin who stated (at a concert with 10,000 people present) that "God delivered me from homosexuality". Bbbbut wait, I thought that Obama was supposed to be the great messianic "unifier". Yeah, some "unifier"--he thinks he's too good to even shake Hillary's hand. However, MSNBC will never report any of this stuff, because their network has officially become one big commercial for Obama, as well as one big Hillary hate-fest.

The articles about McClurkin, Michelle Obama, and "The snub" are linked below:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/obamas-gospel-concert-tour/

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/11/sweet_blog_special_black_ameri.html

http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/01/29/more-on-the-obama-snub-of-hillary-clinton-at-the-sotu/

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NinaK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:34:55 GMT

Hillary:

Lies big time
Distorts facts
Played the gender card (likeability tour)
Played the race card (MLK statement)
Her campaign sent out shameful negative Obama E-mail
Clinton claims no knowledge, fires two aides
One of her campaign managers made shameful Obama
attacks; Clinton denies any knowledge, manger is
either fired or quit on his own. Hillary ends up
apologizing to Obama
Johnson made racial and drug inuendos while Hillary
stood beside him. Hillary stood by what Johnson
said. Johnson sends Obama a letter of apology
Hillary lies about Obama's records in Illinois and
the U.S. Senate
Hillary's campaign sends out e-mail falsely
decrying Obama's stance on Women's Rights
the night before the New Hampshire Primaries
Bill angrily calls Obama's stance on Iraq a fairy
tale
Bill disdainfully calls Obama a kid
Bill angrily says Obama is a roll of the dice
Bill uses the racial card
Bill keeps belittling and antagonizing Obama
Bill keeps losing his temper, even with reporters
Coumo makes racial comments about Obama "jiving"
The Clintons try to defranchise the Nevada voters
via the Teachers' Union. Bill gets really angry
with reporter. Frankly he voluteered too much
information which ONLY an insider would know.
People get fed up with the Clintons,
Obama wins South Carolina trouncing Hillary
Florida, NO campaigning per DNC ruling
Union and minions campaign for Hillary anyway
Hillary wins the vote - women, seniors, latinos
Hillary claims victory, is trying to turn
DNC decision around to her favor. Had Obama won,
this would not be an issue for Hillary
Hillary keeps changing her persona; does anyone
know who Hillary Clinton really is? I don't!!

I expect we'll see quite a few more Hillary persona changes throughout the rest of this campaign. So, IF she should get the nomination, do we know which of the many Hillaries we would be nominating? I wouldn't

By contrast, Mr. Obama is the same person now that he was when he announced his candidacy. He is REAL! He is GENUINE! We KNOW who Brack Obama is. We KNOW WHO we would be nominating.

By contrast, Mr. Edwards is the same person now that he was when he announced his candidacy. He, too, is REAL! He too is GENUINE! We KNOW who John Edwards is! We KNOW WHO we would be nominating.

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Susannah Atlanta, GA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:35:22 GMT

Barack Obama not only campaigned in South Carolina, but his wife actually told African Americans to vote for him because he is black. She specifically said that, "Black America will wake up and get it." Furthermore, Obama traveled around SC with a gay baiting minister/gospel singer named Donnie McClurkin who stated (at a concert with 10,000 people present) that "God delivered me from homosexuality". Bbbbut wait, I thought that Obama was supposed to be the great messianic "unifier". Yeah, some "unifier"--he thinks he's too good to even shake Hillary's hand. However, MSNBC will never report any of this stuff, because their network has officially become one big commercial for Obama, as well as one big Hillary hate-fest.

The articles about McClurkin, Michelle Obama, and "The snub" are linked below:

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/29/obamas-gospel-concert-tour/

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/11/sweet_blog_special_black_ameri.html

http://thedemocraticdaily.com/2008/01/29/more-on-the-obama-snub-of-hillary-clinton-at-the-sotu/

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Knowsbetter — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:36:13 GMT

Oh my friends, who would have thought that Dems would not let every vote count! Rules? You mean the rules of the same old divided politics of the past DNC, the same old divided politics you Obama kool-aide drinkers chant about over and over? Seems like the same old Politics! Nothing will change, Obama is already surounded by the polarizing politicians of the past, yesterdays news (Kerry and Kennedy)Their gong to teach him how to run the country. Some Change!

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Veronica,Temecula,Ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:49:16 GMT

My only question to all that support Obama is if they have forgotten 911? He grew up Muslim and although he states he is Christian now those traditions and beliefs stay with you throught your life no matter what anyone says. And altough he was not involved I just cant imagine supporting someone whose people did us so much harm.That just opens up the doors we dont want opened.

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Dori Thompson, Albert Lea, Minnesota — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:53:32 GMT

HIllary is a dirty, dirty despicable liar. The Clinton brand of dirty politics lives on. Her proclamation of victory made her seem like she was slowly going insane before our eyes, like an old Betty Davis movie. "Hush Hush Sweet Hillary" you can pretend that you are for all the people's needs, but you are only for your own. Why else would you stay with a husband who repeatedly cheated on you? Now you hide behind his coatsleeves, grow some balls. Want to know what is ironic? One of Hillary's biggest group of supporters are single mothers, and Barack was raised by one. I think he understands the plights of many, may god help us all and keep Hillary off the ticked or we'll be driven to McCain.

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Dori Thompson, Albert Lea, Minnesota — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 07:53:33 GMT

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Maria, Mattoon IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:19:35 GMT

Are you guys all nuts? I can't believe some of the things that Clinton supporters are saying in these comments.

Listen, people, Florida doesn't count. All of the candidates pledged not to campaign there because the state legislature foolishly moved its primaries up the calendar in violation of party rules and it wasn't going to count in the primaries. South Carolina counted, that's why both Clintons spent every waking moment of every day trying to win there, and they failed. They can't manufacture a victory where none exists.

This is just the kind of tactic you can count on from the Clintons. Six months ago I respected them, but now I see that they're incapable of being anything but divisive. They've already torn our party apart, and they would do the same thing to the country if given half the chance.

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Daniel P eugene oregon — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:30:45 GMT

I was a Clinton suporter ,but i am thinking twice after this latest display.Hillary is starting to look and sound like a member of the committe ,SEND THEM TO THE FARM .From the classic movie a boy and his dog.

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Laura P. El Paso, Tx. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:36:12 GMT

Listen up everyone, Hillary beat Barack hands down. And she'll do it again next Tuesday. Obama is just a politian who sold out and his time is up a week from now. Just face it.

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Laura P. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:41:52 GMT

Although I love MSNBC and always watch Mica and Joe in the morning and pretty much have the station on all day in my home, I'm very disappointed with your coverage of Clinton and Obama. It's extremely lop-sided. Mica seems like she would pee with excitement if Obama says hello to her, and everyone else has made their hatred of Hillary clear. Please be more professional. This isn't FOX NEWS.

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Andy, Baltimore, MD — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 08:49:04 GMT

I wouldn't be too hard on MSNBC. For every Hillary-"hater," there's a Craig Crawford to spin her every action in a positive light.

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John Love, Rockford, IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:04:29 GMT

Michael, from Tampa, Florida...

You just nullified your own comment. Thank you.

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Kev — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:06:20 GMT

The Obama Campaign has not been totally honest about Florida.
The following appeared in the Tampa Tribune Newspaper in September of last year:

By WILLIAM MARCH and ELAINE SILVESTRINI The Tampa Tribune

Published: September 30, 2007

TAMPA - Barack Obama hinted during a Tampa fundraiser Sunday that if he's the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, he'll seat a Florida delegation at the party's national convention, despite national party sanctions prohibiting it.

Obama also appeared to violate a pledge he and the other leading candidates took by holding a brief news conference outside the fundraiser. That was less than a day after the pledge took effect Saturday, and Obama is the first Democratic presidential candidate to visit Florida since then.

To read the complete article, please go to:

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2007/sep/30/obama-vows-do-whats-right/?news-brea

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marie smith — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:50:12 GMT

hillary is better then obama/by the way ted kennedy insults John k. memory when he suported obama////////////////likewise no one really cares for Ted kennedy.......... florida voted so Florida votes should count...................

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Elias, Durham, NC — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:51:10 GMT

Char Gallager "The woman is certifiably nuts. She won unopposed. It's kind of like a kid that wins a medal in the Special Olympics. Everybody feels good, but it doesn't mean anything."
LOL!!! LOL!!! LOL!!!
Well, it doesn't - as long as Americans don't let the Clinton machinery hoodwink the nation!

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marie smith — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 09:51:22 GMT

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Steve Jennette — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:05:45 GMT

I can't wait for Craig Clinton, oops, I mean Crawford, to call this "brilliant politicking" this morning. I wish he would get a cast on his tongue instead of his leg. As for Ms Clinton, you MUST know that this makes you look like a flip flopper, just like your vote on Iraq which you now try to disclaim.

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shirley — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:09:43 GMT

To all the Obama supporters Hillary is a fighter and she will win. Obama ran commercials in Florida as part of a national cable buy neither Edwards or Clinton did. And a note Rezko walked away with millions and continued to contribute to Obama until he was caught. St. Obama, as much as the national press would like to annoint him president, simply does not have the judgement needed to be the leader of this country.

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American Voter — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:28:12 GMT

The Clinton's are still desparate scum bags.The thought of them back in the White House is nightmarish to the majority of us.

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Rick, Tampa — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:42:12 GMT

Shame on all of you who say that my vote doesn't count for anything. Try and win an election without us. As for MSNBC, there opinions are so slanted in favor of Obama, I will be looking elsewhere for fair political debate. Shame on Chris Matthews and Keith Olberman. I hope people are taking notice of the hatchet jobs these two perform each and every night. I never thought I'd say this, but Fox IS more balanced than MSNBC. I'm a new CNN watcher.

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Tom Ft' Lauderdale,Fl — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:50:19 GMT

I just wonder what the reaction would have been if Obama won.

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Jeff Rathdrum ID — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:51:24 GMT

I would personally love to see both states count. But just letting them count now would be unfair. How about say a week after the last state primary the DNC lets them do another primary, that way everyone can campaign, and the people will have a say.
I'm sure all the Clinton supporters will except this right!!!! And Obama and Edwards would get to be heard too.

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James Thomas — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 10:59:38 GMT

I note the vitriol and pettiness in many comments supporting Hillary Clinton in these blogs. Why must they taunt supporters of her opponents and misrepresent the significance of any inconvenient information to their cause?

It is due to these factors not to mention the cheap shot nature of the Clinton campaign that I can not support her. I must point out that she and her supporters are in real danger of poisoning the well. How can she expect to unify the party if she and her supporters can't even be civil with those who disagree with them? The Obama/Edwards vision is for a large inclusive party not marred by ad hominem rhetoric. Sadly the calculated vitriol of the Clinton campaign may win the nomination but virtually dooms the party in the general election. Is that worth it? I submit that it is not. I disagree with you like many of my fellow Americans. Is it too much to ask not be ridiculed, vilified or condescended to because of that disagreement?

I vote for hope. I vote for what we can be, not for what we have been. You can make fun of me or attack me but that is where I stand.

Obama '08!

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John Alexander — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:14:33 GMT

I know you Obamaites HOPE the Florida delegates are not seated, but HOPE has a funny way of smacking you in the face when you least expect it. These delegates will be seated, the DNC has sent its message and they are not as dumb as you faux-democrats HOPE they are.
Perhaps all you fence sitting independents should start a third party in case Senator Obama is not nominated by our party. You gave us Bush, either by voting for him or sitting on the fence, we ain't taking your new pick.
The vote count was stupendous, We dems are fired up and will not be swayed by a candidate that pretends to be a democrat. Senator Obama will have to change up his strategy before Super Tuesday, no more jargon, more substance in his speechs, if not the HOPE message will peter out, repeating the same old thing over and over might work for young minds that cannot stay on subject for long but older, more experienced voters (trolls if you will) want issues verbalized so they can watch the candidate, the written word in not as strong as the visual messages that people are looking for.
Most attacks On Senator Clinton sound like republican myths, maybe you should join that party, you have their jargon down pat.
I am a proud troll for Hillary, your words will never harm us, it will harm your candidate though. Keep it up, we all enjoy your emotional clap trap, it shows how desperate you are.

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cc, Boston, MA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:17:50 GMT

Many of these postings are funny. Sad but funny.

If you look at the FL vote you would see that most of the votes where mailed in back in December. Taking them out of the count Barack won. They but some would not see that because there where so many votes cast. I wonder how many they paid for? We're talking about the Clintons they would do anything to win.

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Reggie Boykins, St. Louis, MO — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:25:55 GMT

My Dear Hillary,

You're spending too much time away from Bill.

My dear woman, I think you're loosing it. There is nothing for Democratic candidates to claim in Florida at this time. You are exhibiting very poor judgement by assuming that the good citizens of Florida have bestowed something to you.

Where is your grace under, "fire?" If you wish to be the president of a nation, you must stop acting like a wife in distress.

Tighten your "grip" Hillary, you're loosing it.

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Mary in Chicago — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:51:23 GMT

This is the most accurate information provided regarding Obama and Rezko - "8 things you must know about Obama and Rezko."
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/757340,CST-NWS-watchdog24.article As an individual voter, we should know facts about their relationship. No spins and no twists. The trial starts soon. Chicago politics can be really ugly...

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Ron Ignotz, Brimfield, MA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:56:26 GMT

Obama, Edwards and Clinton were all on the Florida ballot. All three have held multiple fundraisers in Florida following the pledge not to campaign there (closed fundraisers were permitted by the DNC). The day following his pledge not to campaign in Florida, Obama held a fund raiser followed by a press conference. The press conference was in violation to the pledge but Obama's resopnse was "I didn't know." After the South Carolina primary, Obama ran TV ads in Florida, again in violation of the campaigning ban. This time his excuse was that it was a national buy and Florida could not be blocked out. Has anyone wanted to watch a football game that was blacked-out in your area? So much for integrity, Mr. Obama. You have rapidly learned the art of breaking the rules then appologizing afterward.

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NoMasBushsYClintons, San Antonio, TX — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:58:06 GMT

When we were kids, I remember playing games with other kids and if someone tried changing the rules in the middle of the game, we called them a cheater and didn't play with them anymore.

This is exactly what the Clintons are doing....they are cheaters.

Wake up America!!!

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sean — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:09:06 GMT

When she only captured 55% of MI to 45 uncommitted, it was looked at a slam. Yet now she got 51% with Obama 20 points behind and people says it means nothing. While the delegates don't count, and there wasn't campaigning, how come there isn't significance of her beating Obama by 20 points?

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Morris Levis, West Islip, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:15:07 GMT

these (michigan and florida) votes are going to play a role in november...hillary did what any of us would have done and that is acknowledge their support after the election....the fact still remains that yes, hillary appeared in florida, but not until the conclusion, and obama absolutely flooded the major florida markets with advertising in the days leading up to tuesday....obama would have accepted victory in the same fashion...how would mathews and olberman have treated obama if he was on there declaring victory??....they would have been ALL OVER that one, we wouldn't hear the end of it!!!!

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Stunned GA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:28:16 GMT

Rob in CA...Are you as delusional as the Clintons. Hillary won an uncontested beauty contest based on name recognition in Florida. You can tout the primary numbers, but they mean nothing since massive numbers of Independents did not have an opportunity to weigh in. The votes in the ballot initiative that included Independents and clearly show there are more than enough votes to erase the number advantage you feel Hillary has. Hillary's history indicates she can not pull Independents, which guarantees Florida will remain a RED State in November.

Why should independents go to Hillary? She is clearly a puppet to give Bill another term. The former president's stumping leaves no doubt this is HIS campaign, not HERS. Hillary's name anywhere on the Democratic ticket will eliminate our chances to retake the White House. The Clintons are polarizing and divisive. Bill shows his antiquated Dixiecrat roots everytime he opens his mouth.

Even more confusing than your thoughts are the National Organization of Women's support of Hillary. NOW should be urging support of credible women candidates (Diane Feinstein, Shirley Franklin, Barbara Boxer, Claire McCaskill, Barbara Mikulski, et.al.), not falling behind a woman that still stands by a man who did not improve the status of women appreciably during his two previous terms. His use of office to sexually exploit women is 180 degrees away from NOW's position. I am disillusioned that NOW feels compelled to support a puppet candidate.

Democrats have a chance to move the party forward, but not by voting for Hillary because she is a woman. I think it is long past time to have a female president, but I always figured it would be a woman the majority of Americans could rally to and be proud of electing. Hillary is not that woman. I applaud your enthusiasm, all the while hoping your fellow Californians are more thoughtful.

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Jamie, Des Moines, Iowa — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:37:16 GMT

Hillary won the Florida primary hands down. I am sure Obama will be surprised when the delegates are awarded and Hillary gets all of them. It will not then appear to be 0 to 0. Obama acts like a high school kid when he turns his back on Hillary at the State of the Union. Hillary is the diplomat we need as President and the State of Florida have voiced their approval!!

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ATONE WINONA MO — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:38:33 GMT

WHAT MATTERS IS WE ALL REMEBER TO VOTE DEMOCRAT WHEN IT DOES COUNT I'LL TAKE ANY OF THE THREE THE. PARTY HAS TO STAY TOGETHER BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS ARE GOING TO ANY OF THE THREE IS BETTER THAN OUR DRAFT DODGEING COKE USING DRUNK DRIVING D AVERAGE PRES WE HAVE.....

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Yog — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:39:59 GMT

If all stats are importand for HRC then why she didn't go to Michigan after she won there?????

This is insult for Michigan...

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Steve W. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:45:29 GMT

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George L., Miami Florida — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:51:08 GMT

I take great exception to people from other states in the country stating that Floridians votes were skewed because so many people stayed home...obviously we didn't. We spoke and it was for Hillary.

And as for everyone in other states presuming they know what we saw here in Florida for campaigning, I saw much more "shadow support" for Obama than Hillary.

Why can't people understand that we are aware here of what is going on in the campaign. We see it all just like everyone else. And we voted.

And one more note: Most of the democrats in this state were completely against the moving of our primary date to January 29. This was a maneuver by a republican-controlled state legislature. And it had the effect they wanted. It makes everyone else in the country belittle the results. But we will not be belittled. We voted. Whether or not our delegates are seated, we will be heard.

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JC/CT — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:51:37 GMT

Every Day Hillary Clinton does something that makes us all realize that she is as much of a opporutnist as her husband. Both of them will say or do anything - true or false, legal or illegal - to get publicity.

Now they are determined to get back into the White House via whatever skewed means they can create.

Just to remind you, here's some Clinton history.

"Bill Clinton was impeached.

Yes, he was. A majority of the U.S. House of Representatives voted to impeach Clinton on a count each of perjury and obstruction of justice. And although he was acquitted after a sham trial in the Senate, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit out of court with Paula Jones for $850,000, was cited for contempt of court, was fined and disbarred for five years from practicing law in Arkansas, and resigned from the Supreme Court bar rather than suffer further humiliation as the first U.S. president to be permanently disbarred from practice there.

All of this was a consequence of his blatant lies under oath to a grand jury and to the American people, as well as his various attempts to cover up his and Hillary's convoluted dealings in the infamous Whitewater scandal. This is the caliber of man whom voters are now supposed to trust when he sings the praises of his better half.

THIS IS A MAN who transferred control of sensitive, weapons-capable technology from the State Department to the Commerce Department run by former DNC chairman Ron Brown, which then ended up in the hands of the Red Chinese at about the same time that a passel of cash was funneled into the coffers of Clinton & Company through PRC operatives. Our national security couldn't be in better hands.

And speaking of Clinton cronies, maybe President Hillary will solve our energy problems by rescinding an Executive Order signed by her husband in 1996 which designated 1.7 million acres in Utah as a national monument. The now untouchable land is the site of the world's largest deposit of environmentally-safe, clean-burning coal; 62 billion tons of it. The owner of the second largest? Clinton bagman, James Riady's Lippo Group of Indonesia.

Here is a man that issued tainted pardons to relatives, terrorists, murderers, drug dealers and fugitives from American justice. Yet, Mr. and Mrs. Clinton feel no compunction when lecturing Obama about his associations with "slumlord" Tony Rezko. This is a couple who basically backed a truck up to the White House to collect "souvenirs," trashed Air Force One and whose staffers vandalized West Wing offices in a childish display of pique. Yet this twosome now seeks to paint their opponent as immature.

Recent reports say that Hillary's handlers are preparing to decide whether Bill must go on the shelf, as the feeling is that his Rumpelstiltskin days, when he could spin anything into gold, may be over. Because, just maybe, all or some of the above may be recalled from the dustbin of history where it has been deposited by liberal writers and reporters eager to preserve the Clinton "legacy."

From the American Spectator, by Lisa Fabrizio

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Phred, NH — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:52:20 GMT

There once was a Senator named Hillary
Who with her husband was nicknamed Billary

A fine President she thought she would make
Only thing is she turned into a flake

In the Florida primary twas victory she claimed
But there were no delegates to pick up as aimed

And so onto Super Tuesday the candidates go
This really should be one heckuva show

I urge everyone to the polls to vote
For the losers the day will strike a sour note

As Americans we always have a choice
Our vote after all is our loudest voice

Let the candidates continue to punch and spar
Thank you fellow Americans who have voted thus far

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UNDER DOG — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:56:28 GMT

AHHH February five, the end of the day will have BO with tears in his eyes! HE HE HE HE
And today we do not have to hear how the anointed one BO has Florida in his pocket with the rest of his "change". I "hope" his ad was worth the humiliation. The media will have to think up a good spin for the loss that BO was happy to lose. He can never win Florida. He is only a winner and a whiner in South Carolina!

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B, Ohio — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:57:34 GMT

As a long time Clinton supporter I'm appalled at how poorly Hillary and Bill have acted in this campaign so far. She agreed long ago to Michigan and Florida being stripped of delegates (I don't agree, but it should have been handled last year, not now). She agreed to Nevada's caucus set up in Las Vegas (again, should have been dealt with last year). People have said for years she will do anything to win, and now she's just giving them proof of that. It's sad.

Sorry, you can't change the rules mid way when they go from benefitting you to hurting you. She thought she'd get the Culinary Worker's endorsement, that Michigan wouldn't matter (even though she kept her name on there anyway after Edwards and Obama removed theirs), and would easily have it wrapped up by Florida.

You can't change the rules midway. That just makes you look really bad. It gives the other campaign's valid attack points, even if it gets you the nomination, it very well may cost you the election. Play by the rules, or we'll have another Republican president.

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Sean — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:02:50 GMT

FJR, Arlington, VA: She won 51% of the vote without camapaigning. It actually speaks better than if she had won 51% with campaigning.

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Jane Lang, boca raton fl — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:06:01 GMT

When it became obvious that the media was going to report the vote count in Florida, I contacted the Obama campaign to ask for advice on how to get the candidates message to Floridians. I was repeatedly told that Senator Obama was going to honor his pledge to the DNC. No questionable ethics there.

What pundits and ill informed bloggers are omitting from the the report about the high voter turnout is that there was a proposition regarding real estate taxation on the ballot. It is hoped that the proposition will help the deeply troubled real estate market in Florida.

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Yog — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:06:36 GMT

If all stats are importand for HRC then why she didn't go to Michigan after she won there?????

This is insult for Michigan...

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margaret, marietta, ga — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:08:55 GMT

Hillary Ally Drops Mailer In Florida -- Despite Candidates' Pledge Against Campaigning
By Greg Sargent - January 29, 2008, 6:44PM
AFSCME drops a new mailer in Florida urging a vote for Hillary. The mailer was sent our way by a political operative, and while by law this has to be uncoordinated with the Hillary campaign, the union is obviously carrying out activity on her behalf despite the candidates' "pledge" against campaigning there.

The Hillary campaign aggressively made the case today that despite the pledge, the voters of Florida deserve to be heard and that the state's delegation should be seated.

Also note the heavy push-back in the mailer on Obama's "change" message (which is done without mentioning Obama). Click on the images to enlarge:

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Jerri, Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:10:05 GMT

ALL AMERICAN VOTES SHOULD COUNT...and Hillary showed them last night that it did. Delgates or no delegates, thye have the right for their voices to be heard. I just think it is truly funny how bias places like MSNBC are towards Obama. Had he won the votes last night, I am sure the headline would have been different. I imagine the Florida and the Michigan voters took notice that they counted to Clinton. So much for Obama being the "uniter"...if it were up to him, he would cut Florida off the map.

As for the person who said that Hillary was the only one who stepped into South Carolina, you are wrong. Obama was there more then she was.

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Steve W. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:10:18 GMT

I've heard and read people saying things like Hillary ran unopposed, the vote doesn't count, it's fake, and a bunch of other ridiculous things. First off, in Florida both Obama and Edwards were on the ballot. Hillary kept her promise and didn't campaign in the state. She landed in Florida after the polls had closed. In fact, Obama was the one who had political ads running in Florida...although they ran there because they ran on networks that broadcasted nationwide. Presently, no Florida delegates will be seated, but the vote counts. When 1.7 million democrats say who they want to be President, I think you have to pay attention...delegates or no. On that topic, Florida should have their delegates seated. That's not a pro-Clinton comment, that's a common sense comment. Michigan and Florida are two very important swing states in the general election. How eager to help do you think state democrats are going to be if they're told that they have no say in choosing their nominee? The DNC's decision could very well be a political suicide pact. They should have done what the Republicans did and just cut their number of delegates in half.

As to the other comments, that this is just a political move on Hillary's part...no kidding. All of the people running for president are politicans. Obama had some momentum coming out of South Carolina and with all the fuss the media has made over Kennedy's endorsement (btw, when was the last time the media cared about a Kennedy endorsement?), and Hillary acted to try and lessen it. That's politics. Finally, I hope I'm not the only one getting sick of all of these Kennedy-Obama or Kennedy-King comparisons. Obama gives a great speech, but I've yet to see any real accomplishments. Nor have I seen him describe any real particulars about what he would do if elected and how he would go about it. How about before we call someone the new John F. or Bobby Kennedy, we have some accomplishments to back it up? I really like Obama, but I'm also really getting annoyed hearing Obama talked about as JFK reincarnated.

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RENEA,PLYMOUTH,MI — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:13:17 GMT

THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN FROM THE PEOPLE IN 2000.FROM MICHIGAN,NEVADA TO FLORIDA THE ELELCION PROCESS IS BEING STOLEN BY THE CLINTON,S.EVERONE MUST FOLLOW THE RULES NOT JUST WHEN IT SUITS YOU.WE ALREADY HAVE THOSE KIND,S OF STUNT,S IN THE PRESENT WHITE HOUSE!

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HP Boston — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:14:15 GMT

Conragulations Hillary! Now on to California and another big win for the Democrat with the knowledge and experience to lead from day one!

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Ira J. Friedman, Clearwater, FL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:21:05 GMT

I always believed MSNBC gave fair and balanced coverage of the news. Your coverage of the Florida primary has changed my opinion. You apparently feel it is appropriate to let readers know that John McCain won 36% of the popular vote in the Republican
primary, but, for some reason, you felt it was not appropriate to let readers know that Hillary Clinton won 50% of the popular vote cast in the democratic primary. In my humble opinion, news is news, whether you agree with it, like it, or dislike it. You did not report the news in this case. You made an editorial decision on your homepage, not to report the strength of the Clinton popular vote. I can only assume, as I'm sure that many others will, that this was done with a biased viewpoint, borne out of either displeasure with one canidate, or preference for the other. In either case, it is certainly did not rise to the level or the type of reporting I am used to seeing on MSNBC.

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Buckaroo Banzai — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:26:30 GMT

Hillary supporters are dooming this nation to 4 more years of republican rule that we cannot afford.

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Amazed, Atlanta — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:32:30 GMT

Uh, Char.. she didn't win unopposed.. both Obama and Edwards were on the ballot in Florda. What is certifiable is the denial of the obvious. She won. Get over it.

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Josey, Cranston RI — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:34:45 GMT

Hey Mike K. from Denver, your the scumbag and D.Cortez from Houston, if she succeeds in getting delegates from florida, Obama will get some of them too you jerks. Don't you listen to the news. they will probably thank her you jerks. Before you degrading and diminishing the fact that she got most of the Florida Democrat vote, do you research or keep you unwanted opinions to yourselves. You people sound so Ignorant. Obama didn't campaign in florida and NEITHER did Hillary so she still won the people's vote - he didn't . We all want Hillary in!

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Monica Vaughan, corpus christi — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:35:55 GMT

I agree with the comment about MSNBC. I had to turn them off--I couldn't take their editorializing without providing much news on Hillary and the democratic returns. They hid them, as if they work for the DNC and have to go along with the DNC blackout attempt. At least CNN ran the returns even if they couldn't bring themselves to discuss the meaning of such a huge democratic turnout and win for Hillary--more votes than McCain even. The bias of MSNBC against Hillary is just monumental and disgusting for an organization that is supposed to REPORT news. That democratic election event was major news even if it didn't follow the rules of the DNC. And yes, when they did manage to say anything about the democrats, it was to make it sound like Hillary broke her pledge not to campaign, when she did not. She followed the rules. But Obama actually ran a campaign ad! And he was not criticized or mentioned as a rule-breaker at all.

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God Help US — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:44:20 GMT

You loonies kill me. Some of you keep saying "she'll do anything to win". Do I need to remind you about John Kerry in 2004? Who did NOT do anything to win? Who subjected us, collectively, to 4 more years of republican hell by taking the elusive "high road"?

Pardon me, but I'd rather have a seasoned politician who knows HOW to win, on my SIDE, than some kumbaya singing rooking who complains everytime someone outsmarts him. Think about it folks.. do we want a democrat in the whitehouse, or do we want to be crying in our beer next November.. AGAIN. Consoling ourselves that "we are above those big bad republicans". Yeah, but those guys are in POWER and we AREN'T. Use your heads.

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beth, safety harbor, fl — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:45:57 GMT

we all have to remember that floridians voted early and many who voted for hilary EARLY did not have the advantage of viewing the latest clinton fiascos. i would imagine that the vote in november (the one that REALLY counts) will elect obama as president because the nation will have dismissed the clinton-duo for the frauds that they are. as a floridian who voted for obama yesterday, i look forward to feb 5th and campaigning for the next 9 months for obama to become the next president and start to heal this country

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Mike, Chicago, Ill. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:47:23 GMT

If Clinton is so gracious then answer this Hillary supporters, how come she had the audacity to give a victory speech thanking Florida supporters, but did no such thing for the people in S.C. who not only supported her, but also campaigned for her? S.C. last time I checked awarded her delegates. Oh I forgot, S.C. like Iowa doesn't matter when picking Presidents. Sorry it looks like that statement is true for Florida this primary.

Edwards/Obama'08

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Chris, Detroit, MI — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:48:56 GMT

I was annoyed as hell that my state government waited so long to choose a primary date that it resulted in Michigan being stripped of its delegates. I was annoyed and angry that I couldn't cast a primary vote for the candidate of my choice, and had to decide between staying home, voting for Hillary, or voting Undecided. The day I cast my primary vote, all I could think was, "If the DNC goes back on its promise and ends up seating delegates from Michigan, I will be more angry than I have ever been at this political process."

Did I want to be disenfranchised in my primary? No, but I made peace with that and I will have a voice in November. If our uncontested primary ends up having a hand in deciding the eventual Democratic nominee, or if Florida's muddied primary results are included in the nominating decision, I don't know what I'll do, but I know what I won't do: vote for the Democrat, and that's even IF the nominee chosen is the one for whom I'd intended to vote.

No matter who ran ads, no matter who had fundraisers, the fact remains that Michigan and Florida did not have legitimate primaries because of the delegate question. Let Hillary take her moral victories, hollow as they are, but don't presume to speak for people from Michigan, at least, who never got the chance to see Obama or Edwards or Hillary come to the state and speak to issues which matter to us. Hillary took us and our votes for granted, and now argues that they should count. Well I don't want my vote to count. If she had lost to "Undecided" in Michigan or to Obama or Edwards in Florida, would she be making these arguments? No. This kind of self-serving vote grubbing is sickening.

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Elizabeth — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:50:31 GMT

Sen. Obama got approval by the SC Dem. Comm (w/ approval of DNC) to run the cable ads since there was no way to eliminate Florida stations. After that, Sen. Clinton continued to scream that HE broke the rules but nevertheless PUT ON HER OWN ADS! -- Clinton violated the agreement, plain and simple, by her pandering to FL voters in the days before the primary, going there on Sunday, announcing that she would be there Tues night and timing her endorsement by Sen. Bill Nelson right before the vote. Claim the 'victory' if you want but please don't pretend that anyone but she violated the spirit and possibly the letter of the agreement. ----- And has she explained to her SC volunteers and supporters why they didn't deserve a 'thank you' while those in FL did? Tacky, tacky.

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Monica, Orange County, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 13:50:44 GMT

I have a suggestion; first so everyone is clear Hillary right up until the last minute to take her name off the ballot in Mich, as the rest of the field was doing indicated she was aslo, and then did not. Now that is an easy way to pickup delegates later (ethical?).
Hillary's campaign complains constantly about TV coverage; Well she got a lot of air time lastnight without winning anything more so then Obama or Edwards;you did not see them anywhere. Bill goes out on the campaign trail and has more media following him around then some of the actual campaigners; much less their spouses. So why not have coverage of Bill equaled to that of the other spouses? If Elizabeth and Michelle only have say four media people following them then limit Bill to the same number?
As for what will happen when McCain and his party start to bring up their attack on the Clintons, including what they have done since Bill left Office,think Dubia partnership and more. I remember how discussing the last four years of them in the white house was if she and you her supports win how much it will be for the rest of the country to have to listen to all the disgusting details, nothing will get done. There is a reason people get bad press all the time, it the choices they make, so we will have the Clintons to add to the list of Brittany, Lindsey and Paris. Thanks

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CYNTHIA, LOWELL, AR — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:02:01 GMT

IF SENATOR OBAMA HAD PULLED AN UPSET IN FLORIDA THEN
I AM SURE EVERY NEWS ORGANIZATION WOULD HAVE HIM ON
THIS MORNING TELLING US ALL HOW THE VOICES OF THE
GOOD CITIZENS OF FLORIDA NEED TO HAVE THEIR VOICES
HEARD. AND THAT ALL VOTES SHOULD BE COUNTED. THAT
HE HAS THE MOST DELEGATES AND THE MOST VOTES.
WELL IF YOU TALLY ALL THE VOTES FROM ALL THE STATES
HILLARY HAS THE MOST VOTES OF ANY CANDIDATE IN EITHER
PARTY. RECEIVING OVER 3/4 OF A MILLION VOTES IN
FLORIDA IS AN AMAZING ACHIEVEMENT THAT I AM SURE SENATOR OBAMA WOULD HAVE LOVED TO CLAIM FOR HIMSELF.
THE STIKING THIN ABOUT FLORIDA IS THE BREAKDOWN OF
THE VOTE WAS ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE SOUTH CAROLINA, IF
SENATOR OBAMA DOESN'T STEP UP HIS SUPPORT ACROSS THE
BOARD HE WILL NOT SUCCEED IN A NATIONAL RACE. AND
DON'T TELL ME HE HAD ACROSS THE BOARD SUPPORT WHEN
HE RAN FOR THE SENATE--HE RAN AGAINST ALAN KEYES....

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Eagles4Life, Maimi, FL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:04:40 GMT

Rob and all those who don'tr seem to understand this. It doesn't matter if his national AD ran there, there was not supposed to be a delegate count. So Hillary could have ran 15 national ADs there and Edwards could have ran 30, that is not the point. The point was and is that the delegates were not supposed to count. Now don't get this whole thing wrong, everyone wants the voice of the people of Florida and Michigan to count, Obama included. The agreement from the starts(and they all signed it) was that the DNC(which Hillary is a part of) stripped Florida of its delegates. Now that Hillary saw that ashe might have the upper hand there, she wants the delegates to count. She didn't talk about this last month or last year when the delegates were stripped. This is a party rule that she wants to break. I have a lot of respect for Hillary but the way she is doing things(as if she is above everybody else) is not the way I want my president to act in 2008. It is a new year and a new decade. I am sick of cowboy mentalities. I wish she just let things ride and not go deliver a victory speech. The truth is even though their names were on the ballot, it means nothing. Floridians may have watched the national news, but never got a chance to see the candidates, check out their sincerity and what they all have on the table, ask them questions personally etc. That never happened so declaring yourself the winner of an uncontested race is just not the way to go. I am disappointed in her for this. Hillary, please play by the rules, you are not above the law.

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John Didds ,Jacksonville ,FL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:06:23 GMT

it's not the % is the numbers 300,000 more votes....! That is people speaking, take the speeches out, take the past out, we heard her meesage from others. She was the only one that came down to see us after the polls closed. I feel that my voice was heard by her. Once an Obama man now a Clinton fan. If you don't live here you don't understand what it means. If you live in another state then you have or may have a chance to go to a rally. You have your delegates count. We here in FL have such a short come and it is about time that atleast one candiate comes to give us a rally.
Thank you Hillary Thank you so much.

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Union Baby, Tennessee — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:13:56 GMT

One week from today will tell the story. And for anyone who thinks Obama can win the deep south, I've one name you should never forget: Harold Ford, jr. He was the most qualified and organized candidate but lost the Tennessee US Senate election to a sleeze bag construction company owner who is guilty of knowingly hiring illegals to work for him.
Been in Tennessee all my life, Obama's camp looks nice, looks busy, but we all know that on Super Tuesday he will never get the votes down here to move on. It is just a fact, not a nice fact, but true non the less. And he can't win the nomination without us, so I'd say the guy is in real trouble down here. Might be a good time to remind all the bubba's that he is half white and really does love and respect his mother and her family for taking care of him.

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No Clinton Dynasty — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:14:37 GMT

No Clinton Dynasty!!! America will not fall for this.
Everyone knows that there was no campaigning in Florida.

Billary will say and do anything to get elected including trying to change the rules in the middle!

We have one chance to take back the White House and only one person can lead us to it...Barack Obama.

McCain will be the Republican nominee and we nominate Hillary will will lose in Nov.

Obama is a uniter, Billary are dividers.

Past vs. Future Obama 08

PS. BREAKING NEWS...John Edwards to drop out of race.
I bet he endorses Obama!!!

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JP — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:14:54 GMT

Michigan and Florida didn't play by the rules, and so they get punished? Tell you what folks, if Dems alienate Democrats and Independents in those states... they run the risk of losing MI and FL come general election time. And if they win neither FL nor MI, they can kiss the White House good bye. Is it REALLY worth it? Do you really want to kiss the Presidency goodbye just to prove a point to two states? If the Democratic Party was smart they would have done what the GOP did, and that's count half the delegates so the race would still count for something. Not a smart move.

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Missouri — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:15:06 GMT

Lies, back room bulling, lawsuits, paying ministers to back you to get their congergation to vote for you,... is this the President you want? If so, vote for the Clintons. If you want someone who will follow his word then vote for Obama.
P.S. for those who think you can buy media nationally and then ask for 1 state to be left out without a higher cost - you are wrong.

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Lisa, Columbia, MO — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:17:07 GMT

MG - I beg you not to vote for Hillary.

Here's why anyone who wants a Democrat as President should NOT vote for Hillary:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/politics/story/CBE2B36DBA4149DD862573DD000F1FCF?OpenDocument

MO is a bellweather state and almost consistenly picks the next President. The latest polling shows a Clinton vs. McCain matchup. Clinton is the ONLY Democrat that loses to McCain. Obama and Edwards BOTH edge out McCain in polling.

I admit I was leaning towards Richardson or Biden, then Edwards. Obama was never my 1st choice. But he is now. Read this, Hillary fans:

"In fact, Obama bests all three top Republicans by slightly larger margins than Clinton or Edwards in identical matchups"

And this is why, if Hillary is elected, you can bet the next President will be John McCain:

"It's the independent voters who make the difference, and determine who's ahead. Their cooler opinion of Clinton could be a problem in November, Ali said.

'With Hillary at the top of the Democratic ticket, it could be anyone's race because she's so polarizing,' Ali said. 'She's the one person who energizes the Republicans.'"

Want further proof? I checked out the FoxNews homepage on Monday. Virtually no mention at all of Obama and his win in SC. There was, however, in the top left hand corner of the page, a photo of Clinton with a big blue link to an article about how Clinton got beat in SC and was trying to get FL to count. They are DYING for her to be the Democratic nominee so all the on-the-fence voters will come out and vote Republican.

I care more about having *A* Democrat in the White House than I do about *which* Democrat is in the White House. Please reconsider Hillary if you want a Democrat in the White House because with her on the ticket, it's not going to happen.

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Stunned GA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:18:17 GMT

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Marylynne, Halifax — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:21:00 GMT

People criticize the media but they are only exposing the Clinton antics. Like George Bush the Clintons count on the fact that the public only have time for the soundbites and showboating. The media is doing their job

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JR, New York, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:21:32 GMT

Ok so all this nonsense is making me sick. Everyone leaving the same comments and whining is boring. Rules and blah blah blah... In politics everyone does what they can to get votes, lies or distorts the truth in some way, yes even Obama and Edwards. Obama has more delegate votes right now so why the complaining? Scared? Think Obama should've won or would've won if his name was on the ballot? Well, his name was on the ballot... I know maybe Hillary made it so his name was in invisible ink, Hahaha, oh well. To say FL does not countis ludicrous! Please! Everyone knows its crucial to win FL! Dont deny it or say they werent supposed to count. Ugh, Cry me a river! HILLARY won... THE END.

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Brenda , Amesbury, MA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:22:14 GMT

I think it is a shame the way the dnc (local and national) has treated Hillary Clinton. She wins in MI and FL but gets no delegates and in Nevada she wins and Obama gets more delegates. If Obama gets the nomination, but wouldn't have if these states count, it will be by default.

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Robert H Tampa/Houston — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:25:44 GMT

YOU PEOPLE ARE HILARIOUS! Hillary received almost the same amount of votes as Romney and Guiliani- COMBINED! She beat Obama by 400,000 votes- more than everybody who voted for him and her in South Carolina-COMBINED. It is true that no delegates were won- but ANYBODY who says that hundreds of thousands of democrats voting means nothing is lying! Another thing- why was Maureen Dowd- no Hillary fan- one of the very few writers to point out that no woman has ever been elected to ANYTHING in the state of Iowa! In it's history! No Gov, Senate or House! Yet Hillary gets smashed for making a close race of it and losing when her husband and McCain didn't even campaign there, Reagan lost there- you would think the world starts and ends in Iowa. No candidate has ever won the democratic nomination who lost New York, Florida and California- if Obama loses California- he might not be eliminated mathatically- but his campaign will be over.

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DKM — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:27:58 GMT

WHAT were the Dems thinking? Now we have a situation where Hillary, who has no problem throwing the party under the bus to win, will yell about how these voters have been disenfranchised. And she's right. Only, there is the inconvenient fact that Barack Obama and John Edwards may have done MUCH better in Florida, as they have in every other state where they have campaigned, if they had campaigned (or had "fundraises" like Hillary) She still may have won, but NOT by as much as she did - she is effectively blackmailing the Dems - Now if the deligates are not seated, the Dems face a problem in the general election - if they are, it may put her over the top. ...so she is saying "Give the the deligates or the Dems can just lose the election" ...I think it puts the lie to her claim that she wants the Democrats back in the white house.

I'm not an Obama supporter, but I have to say that with her actions here, she proves that she really will do or say ANYTHING to win....I think it is ironic that she has no problem getting the nomination by some of the same means that W got the Presidency...Change...Really???

All of that said, Hillary's bad behavior here could have been avoided if the National party would not have been SO SHORT SITED. They should have seen this one coming...

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michael, garden grove, ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:35:18 GMT

you america so dumb the last time voted for bush, you be dumb again to vote for bama this time,waking up stupid

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Carl Spearson, CA — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:38:08 GMT

If Hillary was a race car driver, she'd insist that no other cars be on the track, and then she'd be all excited when she won.

The woman is lame.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:38:36 GMT

Sad day for John Edwards (and supporters) who will drop out today. Will he release his delegates or will he support Barack? In any case, when Florida is able to seat its delegates at the convention, Barack and Hillary will be virtually tied in delegates from that state. That beauty contest will have little meaning in determining the outcome, one way or another.

If Barack can pick up 1000 delegates on the Super Tuesday (and if he pulls off a hat trick with Al Gore's endorsement this week this could be a reality), he will get the nomination. I wouldn't be suprised if the guvenator doesn't go along with his uncle (in-law) and endorses Barack as well (providing for that coalition effect - based on anti-war feeling). This could be the week that was in the primary season. It's all very interesting.
Obama '08

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Steve Phoenix, AZ — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:40:36 GMT

The people spoke! If I lived in Florida my vote would be important to me, get ready to say Madame President!

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Dianna, Owasso, Oklahoma — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:44:41 GMT

I want a President who does what he or she says he or she is going to do. Clinton signed an agreement knowing full well the delegates would not be awarded most importantly in the primary process. She was completely ok with that until it became a close race between her and Obama. She is transparent and the tactic is disgusting. I am here in Oklahoma and I can tell you many republicans have told me they will vote against party lines if Obama wins and vote with Party lines if she does. She is wildly un-liked and it is time for everyone to wake up. She needs to be called out on this behavior it is wrong. Anywhere they both Obama and Edwards have campaigned she has not had sweeping wins. However Obama can make a different claim. Do not count Obama out and do not assume this is anything more than it is Hillary Clinton try to grab positive headlines no matter the cost (i.e. breaking an agreement) to win. Say no to do anything say anything politics and get fresh blood in the White house.

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eric D. — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:46:36 GMT

Woman or no woman, she's just shameless. I think we need a little more integrity in the white house than this. Trying to change the rules in the middle of the game--that does NOT show integrity.

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Rick,ky — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:46:50 GMT

Every 4 years, somehow, Florida voter's seem to screw up the process. How does this happen every 4 year's.The MSM bring's it to light, yet, Florida always finds a way to Disenfranchise Themselves with such ease.It is astonishing that this happens every time.

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Dianna, Owasso, OK — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 14:47:34 GMT

To : M Cohen Westchester County NY

The pledge stated they where aware the delegates where not to be seated and it specifically sited the primary race. It has been a long held party belief that for the main election after the primary is decided the delegates will count and their voices will be heard. The fact is 2 candidates listened to their parties wishes and 1 did not she should not be rewarded in anyway. I find it repellent.

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John Bronx New York — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:01:30 GMT

I keep hearing this argument that somehow Florida voters have been unfairly disenfranchised in the primary process.

The Fact of the matter is Florida Voters and their elected officials and Democratic Party Representatives disenfranchised themselves by trying to game the system and attempting to unfairly move Florida's primary date ahead of the other states. Had Florida and its elected officials and voters been allowed to unfairly stack the deck this way, Florida primary votes would have, in essence, disenfranchised the rest of Democratic primary voters in other states by having Florida votes and primary results cause a disproportionately greater effect on the outcome of the Democratic Primary process. Florida was not entitled to unfairly leapfrog ahead of the rest of "us" Democratic Primary voters, and the DNC properly penalized this state and its elected officials for trying to game the system.

What I find even more astonishing, is to add insult to injury, the Clintons are breaking the rules, yet again, by claiming Florida voters were disenfranchised when the elected officials and Democratic Party representatives of Florida are clearly to blame, and the Clintons are essentially supporting a state whose officials and representatives were unfairly trying to disenfranchise the rest of us.

The Clinton's conduct in now trying to get Florida's results to count is especially egregious given that all the candidates agreed early on that Florida should not be rewarded for trying to game primary system to the detriment of the rest of us.

We have a term for the Clinton's actions in NYC "Chu-utzpah"

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David Perez, Clearwater, Florida — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:25:27 GMT

Well I don't see how she can claim victory here in Florida. Since no one did real campaigning here most people know very little about the candidates. Except for Hillary who's husband was President for eight years. When these people went to vote the choice for most of them was between Hillary and some other guys. With this in mind almost everyone that knew about Obama here voted for him. What that says is that in a real campaign the results would have been very different. The Clinton's are in an all out win at all costs race and America is going to wake up to this. Lets hope we wake up before the end of the primaries because everyone in the Republican party knows that they can beat Hillary hands down.

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Aesop — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:30:40 GMT

Let's all step back for a moment...

If I knew that my state's delegates were stripped, it would seem to me that my vote would not really matter. I mean, it matters in that I'm an American and have the opportunity to vote, but it doesn't matter for results.

Therefore, if I knew that my vote didn't matter because it wouldn't empower my delegates anyway, I probably would not be inclined to even vote. While I'm not disputing that Ms. Clinton received a large number of votes from the people, I'm guessing that Florida residents who would have voted for Mr. Obama, Mr. Edwards or anyone else might have just stayed home. They had no incentive to cast their votes.

For this reason, I don't agree with Ms. Clinton's "victory party," though I am not full of vitrol for her as some of you appear to be.

I'm saying all this as an undecided, non-Floridian, but it seems quite logical to me. Why vote when it doesn't truly matter?

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Sue — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 15:35:09 GMT

Many people did not vote in the Primary where many Dems don't vote in the primary in Florida, but wait until November. It seems ost of her supporters were absentee, many military who did not know she voted for the war.
Hell, I had to inform many of the military that she did authorize the war and that didn't read the NIE report...oh the horror on their faces!
In November she is toast or we get McCain.
And this crap about rallying behind her if she is the nominee; is hogwash!
As far as the failed healthcare, I am Bush despiser, but as long as he has been in office, he has been concentrating on the multi-billion dollar war, so there was no revamp to the healthcare system, which means, the same healthcare was there before he got there. Wonder who his predecessor was...oh yeah Clinton!
Give me a break...

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Youarenuts, California — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:09:39 GMT

To:Char Gallager, Viginia Beach VA

You are the one that is nuts if you think 1 million people voting don't count. Your vote should not count.

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RENEA PLYMOUTH,MI — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:17:42 GMT

IF HILLARY CARED ABOUT THE VOTER IN FLORIDA AND MICHIGAN SHE WOULD OF URGED BOTH OF THE STATES TO KEEP THERE PRIMARIES ON THE FEB 5TH DATE.I DID NOT NOT HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THE VOTERS COUNTING WHEN BOTH OF THE STATES WERE STIPPED OF DELEGATES BECAUSE THEY MOVED UP THERE ELECTIONS.

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Marc, NY, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:44:42 GMT

Obama and his supporters (ie, T. Kennedy) should continue to focus his message re. change and keep plowing ahead aggressively in important swing states before Tuesday. Hillary's desperate "I won FL" victory speeches won't change the fact that the momentum is now with Obama. Interesting to see Bill suddenly very quiet and restrained. Good boy Bill. Now go fetch more votes for me.

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Mitchell Feldman, Vestal, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:45:21 GMT

Thank you Sue:

The most important factor determining my opposition to Hillary (and there are so many) is that she voted for this ill-begotten war.

How do we justify the death of 4000 American
servicemen and women, when it is based on the political ambition of a candidate running for president (and that doesn't even take into consideration the issue of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives, mercilessly slaughtered as a result of the havoc that we have wrecked).

Hillary Clinton was a party to this crime and she even voted against the Levin-Reed amendment that ceded all Congression war-making authority to the president. She supported the president again, in his 2007 bid to authorize force against Iran in the Lieberman/Kyl resolution (after she had claimed that the president had misused her trust in 2002). Does that make sense?

Is that the kind of judgment we want in the White House? Are these decisions based on lack of preparedness (she admits to not reading the NIE)? Is this the kind of learning that we expect from experience? Or is all of this simply the old politics of expediency, where principle is sacrificed for ambition?

Hillary is without a doubt the wrong candidate for the Democrats in November. Obama represents the intellect, the judgment, the integrity that we need to change the way that things are done in Washington.
I look forward to voters in the Super Tuesday states helping to move us closer to his presidency.
Obama '08

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:45:37 GMT

Republican turnout was greater than Democrat by 236,000+ votes.

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Erin Elgin, IL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:57:02 GMT

One thing people are forgetting is that the voter turn out was more due to the fact that there was a property tax to vote for on the ballot. Also we need to look at the fact that those that decided their vote closer to voting day chose Obama. How can they make the delegates count when it was not a fair contest. If they wanted them to count then everyone of the candidates should not have made the decision to not campaign in FL. You don't get to change your mind now.

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Marc, NY, NY — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:59:40 GMT

Maureen Dowd of the NYT didn't speak too highly of Hillary either. Is she in a vast left wing conspiracy with MSNBC to bring down Billary? Puh-leaze.
Fact is that Billary are a very divisive couple who tend to polarize the public more so than Obama or Edwards. As an independent who voted for Bill back in '92 and '96 (no regrets), I prefer to stay home than vote for Hillary. No one among the Reps. like her and many within her own party can't stand her supercilious personality.

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LL Daytona Beach, FL — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:19:10 GMT

"It depends on what your definition of 'campaign' is."

Great line about Hilary sneaking into FL after agreeing not to, from one of the commentators last night.

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Lennon, Conway, Arkansas — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:47:16 GMT

Look. I'd like to make something clear. The state government of Florida KNEW the consequences of their actions when they chose to move up their primary. They KNEW that the Democratic Party would refuse to seat their delgates and they did it anyway. The voters in Florida have noone to blame but their own state government for disenfrachising them. A government that THEY elected.

And at the time all the canidates agree'd that it was a good idea. Obama ran a national ad that aired in Florida. oh no. since when was florida NOT a part of the nation? doesnt compare to the already present Clinton infrastruction that was already in Florida and "unofficially" campaigned for them anyway.

Yet Clinton jumped all over Obama for his ad, berating him for days for "breaking the vow". And then a week later shes standing in Florida declaring victory and swearing up and down that she will get their delegates seated. Who's breaking the vow now Hillary?

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Mike Magrisi, Henderson Nevada — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:52:10 GMT

Fellow Dems - please understand the obvious that republicans will come out in droves to beat down Hillary if she becomes our party's nominee. I for one, will likely vote for McCain. She is so transparently concerned with only herself and will break every rule put in place that does not benefit her. How many dems did NOT go to the polls last night knowing their votes wouldn't translate into actual delegates? And please STOP whining about MSNBC's "bias" against Hillary that doesn't exist; They are merely reporting her desperate behavior.

Don't let the past win and return us to the bitter partisanship that Hillary is the poster child for - not to mention a sure loser in November. Be smart dems.....

Go Barack - YES WE CAN!!!

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HP Boston — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:56:06 GMT

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Richard, Washington State — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:42:56 GMT

Right now the Democrat party seems to be made up of one large pot and one large kettle and they're calling each other black (no racial implication intended, though I'm sure you all will find a way to say there was.)

May not last forever, but it's fun to watch now.

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Democrat 101 — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:53:36 GMT

Bob from NY:
I am unable to find anything on the Tampa Bay's site or other sources to support your belief that the Tampa Bay reported Obama first broke the DNC pledge not to campaign. Also, I don't think talking to reporters amounted to breaking the pledge. I'll continue to research this, though.
I have noticed that a lot of what was stated on this post is FALSE, particularly by those against Obama. We have to be careful in making statements that cannot be supported by facts.

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rita,san pablo,ca — Wed, 30 Jan 2008 21:06:17 GMT

To all the Obama supporters commenting on Hillary's mental status....really that is the best you can come up with....an insanity plea! Well I guess when you really can't find anything wrong with her that is the last resort ha?

I wouldn't be surprised if MSNBC starts talking about her mental health soon.

As for Obama when he needed the black vote in South Carolina...he was MLK...now he needs votes that are not so black so this week he is JFK...yday in Kansas he was raised by a single parent living on food stamps when he attended one of the wealthiest priviledged schools in Hawaii...if he were a woman, he would probably say he was Mother Theresa.He is like that Michael Jackson song, " His black, his white, his black, his white." I'm sure he will start courting the black vote again soon when he goes into more black populated areas in various states. Now how you gonna use yo brotha's Pookie and Ray Ray like that.