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Chuck, NY — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:26:55 GMT

Wow, what an incredible number of responses to my post last Friday (maybe the largest single topic response I have ever seen in First Read). I succeeded in getting everyone to stop and think why they are voting for either Senator Obama or Senator Clinton. I congratulate all of you for taking time to respond, and your thoughts and observations were great.

One very glaring conclusion I saw in all of your posts (and yes I read the first 500+) was a need for closure if you support Senator Obama. I could not agree more. I believe we have reached the point of closing out W’s reign, and the demonizing years of Rush Limbaugh and his ilk. The country wants to move on, and I believe Senator Obama will usher in a new phase of American politics to the benefit of all. I am 54, and I cannot remember the last time I witnessed a debate of policy issues that was scholarly or academic. I think we have been at each others throats since Reagan, and demonizing has ruled the day ever since. Senator Clinton, or any GOP candidate this year, will not provide closure to anything. We need to close out this era!!!

I am casting my vote for Senator Barack Obama.

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iowan — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:32:39 GMT

Rock-Paper-Scissors

Obama beats McCain; McCain beats Clinton; but due to status quo not yet broken, Clinton may beat Obama (in primaries). Not new news as McCain has been beating Clinton in polls the last 3 years...is this the choice you wish to give yourself in November?

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Jade7243 — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:34:07 GMT

Chuck, the OBAMA camp is not letting expectations get out of control. That is YOUR problem. You media types play this game of "expectations" and set these movable hurdles and bars, not us voters. You all are so busy "scripting" this election that you all must have writer's cramps. You are the ones who have created all of these scenarios, in hopes that one of them may play out. I have heard no predictions from Obama or his spokespeople -- and I was at his Albuquerque event -- when he meets with voters. I have not seen him "guarantee" a victory -- unlike Hillary who, in an interview with Katie Couric pre-Iowa declared emphatically "It will be me."

So let's face it, your expectations are out of control. Take two Tylenol and call me on Wednesday morning.

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Amy B Portland, ME — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:38:46 GMT

I think Obama needs an endorsement from some unexpected quarter, like Bill Gates or former senator George Mitchell, to push him forward. Of course, the Iowa win should be his best endorsement, but California doesn't listen to Iowa.

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Paul, Annapolis, MD — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:40:27 GMT

Wait a minute. There's no chance Obama is expected to win California. Most polls still show Clinton in the lead there, and she's been up 20+ points when voting started weeks ago. She's going to dominate that early voting and he'd probably have to win on election day by 5% or better to make that up.

I can't believe for a second that a close loss in CA would be "not meeting expectations" in any way. If the punditry are thinking he is in a good position there, they're either biased against him or miscalculating the situation in that state.

How could he miss on expectations? Lose Georgia, win by 15 or less in Illinois. But not by losing California!

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MH — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:42:38 GMT

It will be Hillary or McCain, but I'll never vote for a man whose greatest achievement was Chicago community activist. As the ex CEO of GE said today, "He is a great speaker, but I'll never vote for him."

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Simon — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:42:41 GMT

Um, not to tell you your business, but one of the passages doesn't make much sense. You say above that the Edwards supporters who shifted to Clinton are "frankly more lucrative 'gets'" because three are superdelegates. But three of the Edwards supporters who shifted to Obama are also superdelegates -- the representatives listed. So who exactly are the three unnamed DNC members who shifted to Clinton more lucrative than?

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jerry/corpus christi texas — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:45:22 GMT

John McCain better just stick to campaigning on ths issues and don't bring up the Pats. I wonder how many times has the Arizona Cardinals been to the Super Bowl? Or even the NFC Championship game? or at least the Division semifinals? Better just sit that one out John.

The RNC yesterday happily passed around an AP clip, which noted that Clinton “might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.”

That would not surprise me at all. Hillary won't be giving any of her positions until IF she is elected, and by then the American taxpayer will feel pain like never before. If it is McCain and Clinton, it will be a contest of two people who just aren't up to snuff when it comes to the economy.

With people in California just loving to pay over 50% of their pay in taxes, I can see them voting for Hillary in big numbers. Whether you are rich or dirt poor, if you are not paying over 50% of your hard earned money to the state of California, you are just not doing enough.

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Rick,ky — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:46:57 GMT

The Clinton campaign seriously miscalculated the backlash of one of the Most Dependable voting block's in the Democratic party.
Van, how about them National polls? OOPZ!
The word out this morning isn't good for Billary's campaign.Clinton resentment in D.C.(Super Delegates).Possible $$$$$ problems after tuesday!

The Fact that Hillary said she would GARNISHEE people's wages to Mandate her Health care plan.

I'm gonna ask this question of Hillary's Main message, EXPERIENCE.How does she use that against John McCain? Any Taker's?

Barack Obama for President!!!!!!!!!!

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JohnnyU, WA State — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:47:01 GMT

After putting ALL the candidates of both parties under my personal microscope I've thoughtfully chosen to support Senator Obama. I sincerely believe he's our best choice for a better future.

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:47:54 GMT

Tsk, Tsk, Tsk,.....once again MSNBC's First Read proves itself to be incapable of simply providing the news without any bias, or "spin."
"If Clinton wins the Golden State, it will be because of those folks who made up their mind weeks ago…"
And what's to say that folks who made their minds up weeks ago, won't go to the polls tomorrow and vote exactly the way they decided to, originally?
I have two words for you First Read;
YELLOW JOURNALISM
If Hillary wins in California, which she is very to, it will simply be because California Democrats want her as their candidate. Period.
As for Maria Shriver's endorsement of Obama; did it ever occur to First Read, that she is married to a very prominent Republican (Ahhhhhaaaalllld) who supports McCain, and that maybe the Republicans wants the weakest candidate to run against them in the fall. Maybe she and Ahhhnnnaallld worked this out so that her endorsement of Obama would actually help McCain in the fall.
Unless you expect us to believe that Mrs. Schwartzenager doesn't support her husband, or his agenda, and I doubt that very much.

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT, 2008!
Change is the residue of design, and design is the by-product of experience.

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elsie, ct — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:49:37 GMT

Here's a novel idea that would really unite this country, and be unbeatable: Obama/McCain.

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Bill, Corpus Christi, Texas — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:54:31 GMT

I think the latest polls showing the Dems in a dead heat looks good for Obama. I think the polling system probably has an inherent flaw, in that they generally call home phones. Obama has a huge following among 18-25 year old voters, who exist with cell phones, and another huge segment of the population uses Caller ID to avoid picking up calls from company names they don't recognize.

I bet Obama's supporters are being hugely under-counted based upon their parents and grandparents being the ones answering the land-line phone.

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Linda, Los Angeles — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:55:16 GMT

Due to mail-in votes, Clinton will win California. The question is not whether, but by how much. If Obama keeps it within 15%, it will be a huge win since it will indicate he kept the delegate number close.

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diane — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:57:55 GMT

First off, I'd say the polling in head to head and in the national polling is one in the same. They are a reflection of people either making up their minds or switching. And as such, in the head to head it will reflect that movement to the Obama camp.
As for playing down California. Everyone is pretty aware there is early voting and many democrats have already voted. Given that, many are not expecting Obama to win. Most are wondering if he can be close in the delegates.
For the candidates home state polls. I've noticed that Hillary's lead in NY is smaller than Obama's is in Illinois.
I live in Illinois and would not be surprised at all if he did get some districts at 65 or so percent.
He is extremely popular here and has alot of support and loyality.
I will be casting my vote for Obama tomorrow.

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j fl — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:58:07 GMT

clinton will win the nomination and choose Obama as her running mate. This guy has to pay his dues before hes going to even be vice president of anything.

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Ron, TX — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 14:58:16 GMT

There shouldn't be early voting. It makes zero sense. In California for example, people have now wasted their vote on Edwards, and can't change their vote. And polls today have Obama tied with Clinton, whereas polls two weeks ago had Clinton ahead by 20%. If 20% of the early voters changed their minds, their vote is already cast, and it's too late to change it, even though the primary date hasn't even arrived.

It will also be interesting to see how Clinton discusses the superdelegate situation. It's very interesting how she'll say that Michigan's and Florida's voters shouldn't be "disenfranchised", but disenfranchisement is clearly going to happen if a handful of ivory tower democrats choose Clinton even though Obama is winning the delegates-via-votes by the people of America. Of course, I doubt she'll bring THAT up, just like how she doesn't bring up the fact that her "pro bono work" at the Children's Defense Fund lasted less than a year, while she worked 15 years at a corporate law firm defending big business.

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Jane, Cary, NC — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:01:36 GMT

Come on, Chuck. Nice try. Chris Matthews called the Joe Scarborough Show this morning and warned of this setting up by some in the Clinton camp and some in the media that if Obama doesn't now WIN CA it will be a huge disappointment. You bought into it apparently. The Obama camp has NEVER said they will win CA. They hope to get many delegates - but they have never said they expect to win the popular vote! People have been sending in absentee ballots for weeks so it is unlikely that Obama will win - but he will do very, very well in the delegate count. For you to say the media will now say it is a disappointment if Obama now does not WIN CA is ABSURD! As Chris Matthews pointed out the media did the exact same thing in 1984 with Mondale. It was set up that if he did not win GA it was all over. When he DID win GA - but lost a bunch of other states to Gary Hart, the media only played up Hart's loss in GA. BTW, you implied on MSNBC this morning that Obama was RAISING EXPECTATIONS by putting out Oprah, Maria, Caroline, Michelle, etc.! Well, isn't that just called CAMPAIGNING?? What are they supposed to do?? They want to get out as many votes as possible. But to extrapolate from that that the Obama campaign is saying because of this they will WIN CA - and that it will somehow be a HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT in the media if they lose CA, (which is what is almost what EVERY POLL shows will be the case in the popular vote) - is an "expectations trick" by the media. I'm really shocked that you would buy into it. THE STORY IS THAT OBAMA HAS MADE UP A 20 POINT DEFICIT IN THE NATIONAL POLLS IN TWO WEEKS!! AND THAT THE LONGER THIS CAMPAIGN CONTINUES, THE BETTER IT IS FOR OBAMA AS HE HAS THE "BIG MO!!"

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Hank Balto MD — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:01:42 GMT

Senator Obama going to say to republicans when asked why he favors granting drivers' licenses to illegal immigrants as Obama has admitted twice in debates? About Obama's present position that undocumented workers will not be covered in his healthcare proposal, yet when he was running for the Senate he said that children of undocumented workers should get the same healthcare benefits that citizens get? when they begin to ask him about negotiating in unstructured summits with the leaders of Iran, North Korea and Cuba without preconditions? What will Senator Obama say when Senator McCain asks him why he said in 2004 that he did not know how he would have voted on the Iraq war authorization and that his view of the Iraq war was not different from President Bush's? What will Senator Obama say when Senator McCain compares Obama's votes to fully fund the Iraq War in the Senate to Obama's rhetorical opposition to that war? What is Senator Obama going to say when Senator McCain questions Obama's claim to be "the most qualified person in America to conduct the foreign policy of the United States"? What is Senator Obama going to say when Senator McCain says that Obama is not one of the most qualified members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to lead this country in today's dangerous world but instead one of the most absent? Senator Obama has not conducted a single policy hearing as chairman of the subcommittee on European Affairs of the Foreign Relations Committee?

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Hank Balto MD — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:01:42 GMT

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Susan, MN — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:02:00 GMT

This is getting ridiculous. Obama people were whining and whining about having to run against both Hillary AND Bill? Well it seems to me, Hillary has much stronger competition...she has to run against Obama, his also-big-mouthed spouse, Oprah, most of the Kennedy clan....and lets not forget, JFK, MLK, RFK and even Paul Wellstone as Saturday, here in MN Obama claimed that legacy as well. I realize when you don't have much of a record of your own, you have to take attention away from that, but this is getting ridiculous. He's been so pumped up by the media, that this race has become very close. Scary, when we don't yet know who the man is.
I'll tell you people one thing...we in MN loved Paul Wellstone and Paul Wellstone was much more than talk. He backed up his every word with action and conviction. And he would NEVER have used tactics like those nasty Harry & Louise adds (that did untold damage to the idea of universal health care and left us in this horrible position we are in today) just to win. (and Obama supposedly WANTS universal health care?).
And don't forget, people Obama has mandates that could end in garnishment of wages and penalties as well...why does every article seem to forget that. I guess it could be because the man doesn't have any truly in-depth, solid plans AT ALL.
BUT HE SURE DOES TALK PERTY!

Wake up people. Only now is he truly beginning to be looked at deeply. As soon as his gun control stance and the other scams get bigger news, we could be stuck with him as a candidate. Actions speak louder than words, people. Too bad this man's actions arent backing up all that pretty, uplifting talk!

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Marbw — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:05:14 GMT

Joan Baez endorsed Senator Obama today in the San Francisco Chronicle:
Editor - I have attempted throughout my life to give a voice to the voiceless, hope to the hopeless, encouragement to the discouraged, and options to the cynical and complacent. From Northern Ireland to Sarajevo to Latin America, I have sung and marched, engaged in civil disobedience, visited war zones, and broken bread with those who had little bread to break.

Through all those years, I chose not to engage in party politics. Though I was asked many times to endorse candidates at every level, I was never comfortable doing so. At this time, however, changing that posture feels like the responsible thing to do. If anyone can navigate the contaminated waters of Washington, lift up the poor, and appeal to the rich to share their wealth, it is Sen. Barack Obama. If anyone can bring light to the darkened corners of this nation and restore our positive influence in world affairs, it is Barack Obama. If anyone can begin the process of healing and bring unity to a country that has been divided for too long, it is Barack Obama. It is time to begin a new journey.

JOAN BAEZ

Menlo Park

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Hillary 08 — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:05:41 GMT

1) The New York Times on its front page explains how Sen. Barack Obama told voters he stood up to the nuclear power industry and how he passed a bill to require reports of any radioactive leaks after hearing from his constituents. But The Times discovers, after a lengthy examination, that the bill was watered down after meeting with Exelon, the company whose plants created the issue and whose key executives are big contributors and bundlers to his campaign. Answering written questions for the NY Times, the campaign, in the words of the paper, never "directly" explains why Sen. Obama would tell voters he passed a bill that in fact was not passed and did not become law.

2) The Chicago Tribune features a similar story on a different topic. While Sen. Obama on the stump tells people about the plight of Maytag workers who lost their jobs, ("Obama's fundraising collides with his rhetoric") the Tribune documents that the union covering those workers believes they got no help from the Senator, who was again taking significant contributions and bundling from one of the company's directors and biggest investors.

3) And yesterday there was an AP story where Senator Obama told the voters of Idaho: ''And then there are people who say, 'Well, he doesn't believe in the Second Amendment,' even though I come from a state -- we've got a lot of hunters in downstate Illinois. And I have no intention of taking away folks' guns.'' But he didn't disclose to those voters, as the AP said that "he does support gun control and has a record of voting for it in the Illinois Senate. He backed limiting handgun purchases to one a month, but he made no attempts to ban them." When he originally ran for the state legislature 12 years ago, he filled out a questionnaire saying he ''supported banning the manufacture, sale and possession of handguns.'' He gave the voters of Idaho no indication whatsoever of either his record in the State Senate or his prior views on the questionnaire.

where are these posts, first read. It's about time to start treating this race fairly!

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Marbw — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:06:17 GMT

California First Lady Maria Shriver Announces Support for Barack Obama(click on video below)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62_ajoKkuHA&eurl=http://my.barackobama.com/page/content/hqblog

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Rick, Germany — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:06:26 GMT

By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer
Sun Feb 3, 11:40 AM ET WASHINGTON - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

And so it begins. Do it her way, or, do it her way.

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Marbw — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:07:00 GMT

Kate Michelman, the former president of NARAL Pro-Choice America, has endorsed Barack Obama for President of the United States...

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John, Lake Worth, Florida — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:07:10 GMT

This is not over! As we all know, things happen in California first. Romney now has the momentum and is leading in Cali. This will spread the rest of the country. Super Tuesday will not be the end. Then Romney can take McCain one on one the rest of the way. All true conservatives need to get on the bandwagon for Romney. Come on in Paul supporters, Fred Heads, Huckabee supporters and friends of Rudy. Let's take back our Republican party by voting for Romney!

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Marbw — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:07:43 GMT

ST. PAUL – Writer and humorist Garrison Keillor today announced his endorsement of Senator Barack Obama for President.

In a letter to Senator Obama, Keillor wrote:

“I'm happy to support your candidacy, which is so full of promise for our country. Seven years of a failed presidency is a depressing thing, and the country is pressing for a change and looking for someone with clear vision who is determined to break through the rhetorical logjam and find sensible ways to move our country forward. That's you, friend.

“I can't think of a happier prospect for next January than to see you and your wife and children stepping out on the platform in front of the Capitol for the inauguration. The sight of this will bring to an end a long sour chapter in our history. It will be an enormous moment. And of course it will be exciting to have a president who can speak with grace and power to the American people. Your campaign is a great tonic for America and that's why so many young people are excited about it. I congratulate you on your awesome achievement so far and pledge my support toward victory in November.”

Keillor is best known as the host of Public Radio’s A Prairie Home Companion and is also a best-selling author and humorist.

“I’ve been entertained and inspired by Garrison Keillor’s work through the years,” Obama said. “His tales of life in Lake Wobegon tell the story of life in quintessential middle America. I’m honored to have his support and, as president, I will wake up every day thinking about how I can help make life better in places like Lake Wobegon all across the country.”

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RGO, California — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:07:53 GMT

Jerry writes .... "With people in California just loving to pay over 50% of their pay in taxes, I can see them voting for Hillary in big numbers. Whether you are rich or dirt poor, if you are not paying over 50% of your hard earned money to the state of California, you are just not doing enough" another entry from an ignorant Republican from Texas who knows NOTHING about California. The great thing about this election is the death of all republicans coming from Texas who have ruined our nation. Maybe after Nov '08, we will no longer have to read anymore "meaningless" blogs from Texas Republicans .... Hasta La Vista Jerry

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Marbw — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:09:38 GMT

Rory Kennedy: Two fine choices, one clear decision - Obama---

Rory Kennedy, a documentary filmmaker

In my years making documentaries, I have traveled to remote regions, from small villages in South America, to townships in South Africa, to the hollows of Appalachia. Every trip, every film, I meet people who still keep photographs of my family on their walls. They cry when they meet me, simply because they were touched by my father, Robert Kennedy. In part, this is because my father supported policies and legislation that helped the disenfranchised. But it is also, and perhaps more importantly, because they felt that my father understood their pain. Senator Obama has that quality too. He has an open heart and an energizing spirit.

Recently, my mother, Ethel Kennedy, said of Obama: "I think he feels it. He feels it just like Bobby did. He has the passion in his heart. He's not selling you. It's just him."

I agree. Obama is a genuine leader. We Americans - women included - desperately need that kind of leader now. Not a president of a particular gender or a specific race, but a president with a different vision, one who inspires a sense of hope.

To elect Barack Obama is to choose a new direction, set a new course - to steer America toward a better place, better for women as well as men, better for us all.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/02/ED39UQKTS.DTL

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Lou Pruce — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:12:05 GMT

So, Hillary, ya have'n fun yet girl? Is this the fun part? You still think you're winning?

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Eric, NY, NY — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:15:34 GMT

The California results matter a lot since they give a delegate "bonus" of 11 delegates if you win the state. Moreover, MA and MO could be interesting as if Hillary wins the press locally will ask why the people who endorsed Obama could not bring the states home for him. The spin will all be about the size of the states won, how many states won, how many delegates won, and the total popular vote won. Look for Obama to have a better showing in much of this perhaps except for delegate count.

As for the media questioning Obama's record versus his speeches perhaps this is something they should have done a while ago.

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Marybeth, Henderson, NV — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:17:07 GMT

Health Care:

Obama: OPTIONAL. This is less likely my employment coverage will wain.

Clinton: MANDATORY and potential garnishment of wages if citizen does not pay. Likely my employment coverage will wain, if not this year, it rests on the horizon. This will be another deduction from my paycheck I JUST CANNOT AFFORD! I am suspect she has the big businesses in mind.

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HP Boston — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:18:10 GMT

OH the spin! I am still asking what is a Barack Obama? We are dizzy from the the hype and the appearance of the saviour from out of the wild blue yonder!

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Carol Johnson, Topeka, Kansas — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:18:56 GMT

The media - i.e. First Read - and James Carville - are setting up FALSE EXPECTATIONS on CALIFORNIA! GOOD GRIEF! NO POLL AND NO ONE IN THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN HAS SAID HE WILL WIN CA!! He has dramatically risen in the polls but there were many - almost 50% - of the ballots ALREADY CAST via the ABSENTEE BALLOT process. So everyone knows that Hillary will win the popular vote. BUT - if Obama can capture a large number of the delegates THAT should be the story! The media is shameless in trying to CREATE a story. To now say that it will be a disappointment to both Obama and the media if he loses the popular vote in CA is a trick worthy of Clinton guru Mark Penn.

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Chris NY, NY — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:22:27 GMT

Just a question... What has Obama ever accomplished in the Senate that is bi-partisan or non-partisan in any way? What has he ever done that unites Democrats, Independents and Republicans in solving a problem?

The answer is nothing. (Ethics reform was not bi-partisan, ask John McCain.) Talking about hope is unifying but meaningless. It is just like George W. Bush - "I'm a uniter not a divider", "humble foreign policy", "no nation building", etc. etc. Nice words, but zero results. You have to actually work with the other side in order to have an achievement.

Hillary has been effective in working with Lindsey Graham, Trent Lott, Newt Gingrich, John McCain, and other Republicans. Real work, real solutions, real results - not just words.

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Sharon Stone — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:23:39 GMT

Barack Hussein Obama has no experience. He is a great speaker and has charisma, but in the end he says nothing.

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benvictor — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:24:07 GMT

Congratulations "blue collar" Giants. Great home State victory, Hillary. Now, Hillary's blue collar voters and diverse other supporters are set to bring victory to Hillary on Super Tuesday. Teddy and his clan are devastated. Oprah must address the ratings war. Congratulations Giants and your Senator Hillary on victory in Super Tuesday.

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enough of chuckie — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:24:13 GMT

Ah---Harry and Loise has been put into the campaign by Obama.He should have checked first how the original Harry and Loise ended up.Harry got ill went to the hospital and found out his healthcare would not pay his medical bills.Harry died and Louise was left to pay his hospital and doctor bills.She ended up losing everything including her home.Not a pretty ending but seems to be happening all over the country.Did the republicans claim Hillary would garnshee or was it Hillary?

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CJ — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:25:20 GMT

The grassroots/country wants Obama...and the "party" wants Clinton who will prevail?

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goDems — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:25:44 GMT

Keep being swayed by polls, people. The problem is, those polls take in account ALL Hillary's negatives and none of Obamas. People do not really know him yet, other than the hype. Once his gun control and other liberal stances along with new questions concerning his "favors" for donors comes out as it is further and further investigated(as should have been done all along) comes out, he will lose independents and those "obama republicans", plus more.
He panders and lies and misrepresents both his own record and Hillary Clinton's as well. If people believe he is truly a "different" kind of politician, they dillusional.
God help us all...

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R.amanda,all done — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:26:02 GMT

No more Repub. in the white house, we have learned our lesson. Vote Democratic. Bush damaged the Repub. but you will never hear Limbaw or Hannutty or OReilly mention one word against him! You put another Repub. in the white house and you will wind up with more BUSH,more Limbaw, more Hannutty & more OReilly.

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independents for truth — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:26:43 GMT

we would like to point out something hillary said on television sunday. hillary said, she may consider garnishing wages or some other forms of penalty if people don't pay the mandated premium for universal healthcare.

this is something we have been speaking about since the campaign began. she will not be fully honest about it, but gave a waffling answer after being pressed a third time on the subject.

with the clinton's americans must think about hillary's answers being politically correct depending on her audience. we will never know what she is truly thinking or will actually do.

she said she is for the working class, but voted for the bankruptcy bill that favored lenders and creditors.

the expectations issue is a misrepresentation on the part od msnbc and the media. for obama to be behind hillary by double digits 2 weeks ago and recently and obama closing the gap says that he has exceeded all expectations.

please don't try to set him up as failing if he doesn't win california. that is not fair to us voters.

it is sad that the early voters don't get the chance to recast their vote. at the time those votes were casted obama was an unknown quantity and voters casted their votes based upon the clinton's name recognition. we think they would vote very differently now based upon his exposure to california. anyway, go obama.

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R.V. — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:28:21 GMT

Romney is NOT going to win anything except the biggest EGO contest...What a buffoon...! The only reason he is running is he wants to feed his ego even more, if that is possible. He has no sense of humanity for anything except the big profit$$$. We don't need a president like that....we just had that type and look what he did to our country.

The Demoocrats will be cleaning up after the GOPer's, as usual, with a winning ticket of Hillary/Obama!

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Marbw — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:31:48 GMT

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Blaine — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:33:34 GMT

Zogby has Obama with significant momentum coming into Tuesady, especially in California. Yesterday alone he beat her 49%-32% and now leads her 46%-40% over all in their tracking poll. If he makes no mistakes between now and tomorrow, he just might overcome that mail-in/early vote and hold his own.

I sure hope so. Hillary hasn't said anything meaningful all campaign long. Giving general answers to specific questions and laughing/cackling alot doesn't cut it right about now.

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Dirk, Brunswick, Georgia — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:34:06 GMT

Chuck- Yes, Obama is now expected to win California. How can he not, with Shriver, Kennedy, and Oprah behind him?

Obama is an empty suit. 'Can give a great speech, but has no executive experience. Yet, he's expected to win in California. Hopefully, Californians will come to their senses and pick Hillary, but I don't expect that.

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independents for truth — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:34:08 GMT

we are trying to understan why some people here discuss differences and issues and some continue after so long to lie, slander and insult rather than point out the reasons they support their candidate intelligently? is hate or division a part of your nature???

do you just think that if a person is not your candidate you must tear them down as republicans do democrats???

is it your nature to just be poisonus???

we are trying to understand the hate level. though we don't support hillary, we see know need to disrespect her with names, slander and lies.

why is this ugly type of politics that the clinton's and the republicans have been using since the 90's so necessary to some of you???????

why can't you be intelligent in your discussion????

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SW, SF, CA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:35:11 GMT

First Read,
You are being SPUN again on California. What is wrong with you guys? Doesn't it get embarrassing after a while? Nobody in the Obama camp thinks he's going to win California; she has a MASSIVE institutional advantage here and huge leads from all the older voters that sent in absentee ballots early. Be professionals and take some pride in your work. Stop letting Mark Penn and James Carville commandeer your brain.

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:37:54 GMT

'...Yesterday’s Washington Post/ABC poll had McCain beating Clinton, 49%-46%, yet Obama beating McCain, 49%-46%. And according to a new Cook Political Report/RT Strategies poll, McCain leads Clinton, 45%-41%, while Obama beats McCain 45%-43%...'

Billayr will lead us to DEFEAT
Obama will WIN

This contest WON'T BE OVER on Super Tuesday
We can see the momentum heading Obama's way

A statistical tie in national polls, a statistical tie in CLAIFORNIA ! CALIFORNIA !
The Clintons practically LIVED HERE during Bill's failed Presidency.

Billary is having trouble holding California
Watch the results.... Billary will LOSE the SF Bay Area. FLAT OUT

One pundit said this week end said Obama would NEVER offer the VP slot to Clinton........ Who wants two VPs ?

Obama is gaining and the nomination may be decided in Ohio AFTER Super Tuesday

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Warren E. — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:39:48 GMT

[OH the spin! I am still asking what is a Barack Obama? We are dizzy from the the hype and the appearance of the saviour from out of the wild blue yonder!]

And who is Hillary Clinton? What 35 years of experience? The only experience she has seems to be with lining her pockets with cold hard cash. And just now we are hearing about how she gets universal health coverage - by taxing the living breath out of every worker in the country.

Funny what you find out when Hillary stops spinning.

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Sierra, SF — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:41:00 GMT

Ron, TX: '...There shouldn't be early voting. It makes zero sense. In California for example, people have now wasted their vote on Edwards, and can't change their vote...'

Sorry, Ron.... that's the wave of the future in Cal
Permanent absentee voters are gaining in strength
My whole family is registered as permanent absentee
It gives us a chance to study the issues/propsitions and vote from home.

It'll bite Obama this time, but it's here to stay

Obama '08

PS
Edwards is endorsing Breck extra body shampoo ;-D

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j fl — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:41:30 GMT

Joan Baez has no brain left from extensive drug abuse in the 60's and Maria Shriver married Ahhhnold, who is a stinken republican and she would follow her husband off a cliff at this point. And Keillors writing is quite inpressive but he's a total wus of the male species, quite like Obama himself. Yet another John Kerry, nice but totally unable to go up against the right wingers, ANY republicans. Wimpy, wimpy, wimpy. Thats why Chris Matthews, Scarborough and other repubs are frothing at the mouth for Obama to win. Its called advanced politics folks. REALITY! The Clintons know and understand this.

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Chris Penn — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:44:16 GMT

Obama is intimitated by Hillary AND his own wife for gosh sakes! Everybody needs to get their heads out of their butts and vote for Hillary. She can and will win if nominated and the republicans know this.

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Bubba Smith — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:46:23 GMT

Talk about making the "correct" decisions, Obama selected the "favorate" New England to win the Super Bowl, They "loose". Hillary Clinton, chose New York and they "win". Now there is some good decision making,come see why...hillaryclinton.com

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Class Warrior, D.C. — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:47:01 GMT

If Obama can beat the Republican in the Gneral, that it had better be Obama in the general election, don't you think?

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Independent in CA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 15:47:34 GMT

As a Californian I am concerned that we have an important part to play in this show - but I don't know that anyone has told the average Californian who may not yet be fully engaged and realise how much is at stake.....

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Emily Boswell, Austin, Texas — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 16:24:08 GMT

Chuck Todd - My husband and I have argued about whether you were biased in favor of Hillary. I have always thought yes - my husband, no. But this morning with this post and your appearance on MSNBC he has come over to my side.

It is such Clintonian spin - a Mark Penn dirty trick - to say it will be a disappointment to both Obama and the media if Obama loses in California. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Obama was double-digit points behind Hillary two weeks ago. The ABSENTEE voting has been going on for a month. SO... is it really logical to believe that Obama could make up the 50% of votes that have ALREADY BEEN CAST? He is surging now, and will probably win the majority of late-voters, but to say he can overcome 50% that were cast as long as a month ago is to buy into a sleazy spin by Mark Penn. To say that it will be a huge disappointment if Obama loses the CA popular vote is an absolutely pro-Hillary statement. You convinced my husband, Chuck, therefore, that you must be in Hillary's corner. Thanks, Chuck - you proved me right.

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DONNA M — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:01:48 GMT

FRO THE LIFE OF ME I CAN'T UNDERSTAND ANYONE WOULD VOTE DEMOCRAT. WHETHER HILLARY OR OBAMA, YOU CAN BE ASSURED YOUR TAXES WILL RISE AND RISE. ARE WE ON THE WAY TO BECOMING A SOCIALIST COUNTRY? IS OUR ROLE MODEL THE EUROPEAN SYSTEM? LOOK WHERE ITS GOTTEN THEM. THIS COUNTRY HAS ALWAYS BEEN HEAVILY CAPITALISTIC AND ITS SERVED US WELL FOR CENTURIES. REMEMBER-BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR.

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D Tan, NJ — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:03:27 GMT

I can't vote for a President who doesn't have a track record of public works. ACTION speaks louder than RHETORIC WORDS people. What did BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA ever do to our country? Can you really see this country's future if we vote for him?
We need someone who can save our plunging economy - and the CLINTONs have that track record. Unless you want to wake up one day and find out that the value of your home is less than what you owe, because your neighborhood is not safe to live at. Or if you buy milk, and a dozen eggs would cost you $10 (more than the minimum wage). It's not too late people, know your priorities, write the pros and cons, chose the best for yourself and your family, most of all don't forget to vote!!!

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SCOOTER PECK, SPRINGFIELD, TN. — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:03:50 GMT

HAS ANYONE THOUGHT OF "BOYCOTTING" NBC, MSNBC, CNN, FOX ETC. FOR SLANDER OF HILLARY AND PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON AND TRYING TO SWAY AN IMPORTANT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION WITH THEIR MEDIA BULLYING. I AM SICK OF ALL THIS TWISTING OF THE FACTS AND TRYING TO SWAY THE VOTERS TOWARD A SELECTED UNKNOWN, UNTESTED CANDIDATE SUCH AS OBAMA JUST TO GET HIGHER RATINGS. I REALLY LIKED THE MAN JUST MONTHS AGO UNTIL THE CABLE TV STATIONS AND RADIO JERKS STARTED A CAMPAIGN OF THEIR OWN! YOU HAVE STARTED A RACE WAR IN THE 2000s THAT WE CAN NEVER RECOVER FROM. I WANT A PRESIDENT WHO IS BATTLE TESTED AND READY TO STAND UP AGAINST THE SMEARS AND LIES THAT THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOTED FOR! I HAVE ALWAYS DEFENDED BUT NEVER VOTED FOR HER HUSBAND, BUT COME TO ADMIRE HIS HANDLING OF THE COUNTRY'S ECONOMY AND POLITICAL MATTERS OF THIS PROUD NATION. I, FOR ONE, WILL NOT VOTE IF OBAMA WINS THE PRIMARYS. I AM SO DISAPPOINTED IN CHRIS MATTHEWS, KEITH OBERMAN, JOE SCARBOURO, TIM RUSSERT, WOLF BLITZER, ANDREA MITCHELL AND ALL THE OTHER "PREVIOUSLY ETHICAL" JOURNALISTS. YOU ARE NOW OFF MY "MUST WATCH" LIST. MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU ALL!.

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kevin SD CA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:05:00 GMT

Now that the conservative media have brainwashed people to support Obama (national polls, and Clinton bashing) The Media has begun TODAY to RIP OBAMA to shreads and burry him with his record.

It is truely a good day for Republicans.

Videotapes of debates and speeches that were obtained by The Washington Times show that Mr. Obama took positions during his Senate campaign on nearly a half-dozen issues ranging from the Cuba embargo to health care for illegal aliens that conflict with statements that he has made during his run for the White House.

For example, in MSNBC’s Oct. 30 presidential debate, Mr. Obama hesitantly raised his hand and joined with most of his Democratic rivals to declare he opposed decriminalizing marijuana. (See clip below.)

But as a U.S. Senate candidate, Mr. Obama told Illinois college students in January 2004 he supported eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana use or possession, a debate video shows.

“I think we need to rethink and decriminalize our marijuana laws,” Mr. Obama said during a debate at Northwestern University. “But I’m not somebody who believes in legalization of marijuana.”(See clip below.)

When confronted with the statements on the video, Obama’s campaign offered two explanations to The Times in less than 24 hours. At first, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor said the candidate had “always” supported decriminalizing marijuana, suggesting that his 2004 statement was correct. Then after The Times posted copies of the video on its Web site, www.washingtontimes.com, yesterday, his campaign reversed course and declared he does not support eliminating criminal penalties for marijuana possession and use.

Assuming Obama can’t tell when he is lifting up his arm to vote (green “Yes” voting buttons and red “No” voting buttons also confuse Obama), why did he not bother to clarify his position the day after the debate? Who is this guy? Check out the videos.

And it’s not just confusion about pot smoking. There is more smoke coming out of Obama.

Mr. Obama’s differing answers on marijuana are among five conflicts between positions he took while running for Senate in 2004 and those he now articulates while running for president, a review of debate tapes shows. Experts said the likely reason for the changes was that Mr. Obama ran as a liberal during his Senate run but has become more centrist as he pursues the broad coalition required to win the White House. [snip]

In a 2003 forum on health care, Mr. Obama said he supported the children of illegal aliens’ receiving the same benefits as citizens, “whether it’s medical, whether it’s in-state tuition.” Asked specifically whether he included “undocumented” people, Mr. Obama replied, “Absolutely.”(See clip below.)

But in a CNN debate Jan. 21, when Mr. Obama was asked whether his health care proposal covers illegal aliens, he said “no” and that he first wants to cover the U.S. citizens and legal residents without health care.

In 2004, Mr. Obama told an audience at Southern Illinois University, “I think it’s time for us to end the embargo with Cuba. … It’s time for us to acknowledge that that particular policy has failed.”(See clip below.)

However, he stopped short of calling for an end to the embargo in a Miami Herald op-ed in August. He said he would rely on diplomacy, with a message that if a post-Fidel Castro government made democratic changes, the U.S. “is prepared to take steps to normalize relations and ease the embargo.”

“Senator Obama has consistently said that U.S. policy toward Cuba has failed,” Mr. Vietor said.

In an October 2003 NAACP debate, Mr. Obama said he would “vote to abolish” mandatory minimum sentences. “The mandatory minimums take too much discretion away from judges,” he said.(See clip below.)

Mr. Obama now says on his Web site, www.barackobama.com, that he would “immediately review sentences to see where we can be smarter on crime and reduce the ineffective warehousing of nonviolent drug offenders.”

When shown transcripts of the videos, Mr. Vietor said: “The American people want a president who is going to be honest with them and talk about how we can tackle the challenges we face.”

The Times obtained the video footage of the public debates from a variety of sources, ranging from open sources such as YouTube to political operatives who oppose Mr. Obama’s presidential campaign or his Senate bid in Illinois. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, for instance, recently released footage on its Web site of a 2004 speech in which Mr. Obama spoke about universal health care, accusing him of a flip-flop.(See clip below.)

Mr. Obama told an AFL-CIO group in June 2003: “I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer, universal health care plan.” But in a recent debate he said he has never endorsed such a plan.

Just who is this guy? It’s like buying a nickle bag of pot and getting oregano.

Today, the New York Times (finally) bothers to examine (at this late date) Obama’s voting record and entanglements.

When residents in Illinois voiced outrage two years ago upon learning that the Exelon Corporation had not disclosed radioactive leaks at one of its nuclear plants, the state’s freshman senator, Barack Obama, took up their cause.

Mr. Obama scolded Exelon and federal regulators for inaction and introduced a bill to require all plant owners to notify state and local authorities immediately of even small leaks. He has boasted of it on the campaign trail, telling a crowd in Iowa in December that it was “the only nuclear legislation that I’ve passed.”

“I just did that last year,” he said, to murmurs of approval.

A close look at the path his legislation took tells a very different story. While he initially fought to advance his bill, even holding up a presidential nomination to try to force a hearing on it, Mr. Obama eventually rewrote it to reflect changes sought by Senate Republicans, Exelon and nuclear regulators. The new bill removed language mandating prompt reporting and simply offered guidance to regulators, whom it charged with addressing the issue of unreported leaks.

Clinton 2008!!!!!

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Anonymous — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:05:05 GMT

The reason the Clinton's threw out the California bait is because they want the nedia to focus on that state (where they are pretty safe due to early voting) and not on the big surprise. She's going to lose New Jersey and Missouri - states where she was up by double digits a week ago. It's all a magic trick by Carville. Watch California! Ignore the losses in states she would have won by a ton last week. The Clintons are still slick.

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WT — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:08:39 GMT

Obama has caused many Americans to re-think who and what they are. We all long for the days when we were all Americans. Not red-Americans or blue-Americans. Not conservative-Americans or liberal-Americans. Now, it appears this is reaching into the ethnicities of America, also. Maybe it is time to lose the ethnic prefix to our Americanism, too? I wrote an essay that was published in several papers across the country last week about this subject. The title was, among others, "Drop the Dash; Be a full American" and the supportive response was huge! check out www.dropthedash.com and leave comments on the guestbook. let's make America the country it was meant to be....a country full of Americans...Drop the Dash!!!!

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Ken Collins/ Wagoner, Iklahoma — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:10:25 GMT

Wake Up America !!!!
Let's not step in it again !!!
No Slick Willy or Venomous Hillary PLEASE!! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!
Sen. Barack Obama for President of these United States !!
Chuck Todd and Keith Olbermann should make reservations at the local emergency room after Sen. Obama wipes Hillary and Slick Willy off the map !!!!!

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Marilyn, Marion — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:11:31 GMT

Obama does not have my vote! I don't understand voters and the news media falling all over this guy when he is an "unknown" candidate with very little experience, yet he can "preach" a pretty sermon! Let's see what the news media says come 2/25/08 when REZKO trial starts! The "saviour" you all are falling for may just "fall from grace"...at least I won't look "stupid"!

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Sam Ramirez ,Burbank,Ca — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:13:17 GMT

I find it hard to believe anyone would take Hillary seriouly.If you went to upstate New York they hate her up there, but because of the population of New York City they put her into office, after bubba paid good money for it by releasing a few hundred Puerto Rican criminals, but no body remembers that.

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K.G. Sonora, ca — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:13:36 GMT

Interesting all the Kennedy endorsments of Obama and even the comparisons of him to JFK and Camelot. Wasn't JFK at least as much of a womanizer as Bill? I think we have forgotten the only difference was the inablility of the press to expose him. So if you are going to compare Obama and JFK better leave the "morals" of any Clinton out of the mix.

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T.C.Kirk — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:14:26 GMT

How can anyone vote for John McCain, a man who divorced his wife, who worked day and night to get him free, after she was critically injured in a serious car accident while he was in Viet Nam. He came home to a woman who was injured and chose to dump her and find someone who met his expectations for his dreams. Is this who you want as a canidate.

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Gina — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:18:09 GMT

It is absolutely amazing to me when there is a discussion about EXPERIENCE and a belittling of Obama and glorifying of Hilliary.

Obama has pulled HIMSELF up by his bootstraps, is brillant, is ahead of the curve and a visionary that has pulled up his sleeves and WORKED. Although it is said that he is a great "speaker"--i.e. entertainer, ministral, etc... but no substance-- this is insulting and ignorant.

On the other hand--- Hillary is married (loveless fake marriage) to an ex president, had ONE major public initiative which she lead which FAILED miserably, NEVER had an elected office until the Senate seat for which she ran in a state that she didn't live in...hmmmm why not Arkansas???, Anyway--her "experience" was that she slept with a President--well maybe not "slept" with as we know that that was not happening.... but anyway was publically married to a former President. What the heck else has she done except for stand by her man as he lay with hundreds of women? Oh, I'm sorry she insulted me-- a working, educated woman in a male dominated profession by CRYING on national TV in order to get silly people to vote for her.

Further, look at all of the special interest, lobby dollars that have poured into her campaign. We know from Whitewater and other scandals that the Clintons are easily bought.... do you think that they are not coming back to cash in on the dollars that they put in?

I am a self made woman with my own credentials, vision and ethics. I am voting for Barack Obama in 2008 and have never voted for a Republican-- however if Hilliary wins the primary I will vote for ANYONE but her.

I am sick of George Bush AND the Clintons--- trust me this is a way for Bill to get back in the White House and I think that in this country 3 terms are not allowed. I don't want the dirt and mess of another Clinton in the White House. Certainly not a woman that is in a loveless, shameful, sham of a marriage to a seriel adulterer and is herself a bold liar. This is what we want for this country? As a woman-- I don't want this to be how women achieve in politics or any other profession--based on their husbands! Insulting!

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John K. Las Vegas,Nv. — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:18:25 GMT

All I have heard from Obama is that he is going to change Washington. He hasn't said how he is going to change Washington. Our constitution was written and signed about 235 years ago. We don't need it wrecked any more than it has been.

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Ramon, los angeles, ca — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:22:53 GMT

The position of President requires a "Leader" not a 'Manager'(or 'Administrator'). A leader inspires, leads and unites. A manager performs day-to-day tasks of making sure the little things are humming along. This is why the actor Ronald Reagan was great because he led and let managers(the Secretaries) do the managing or administering. All the President(leader) has to do is pick the right managers to do the micromanagement for him. Between, hillary and obama, hillary is the good administrator but obama is the better leader hands down. There lies the difference.
If you guys want more of the hatefulness and divisiveness in both the clinton and bush administrations, then elect hillary, just don't be surprised if the republicans are going to use her for continuous rounds of spiteful hateful attackes and vice-versa. If your a masochist and enjoy hearing and watching on TV that kind of mudslinging then be my guest, and not only that you will be perpetuating revolving door dynasties: bush-clinton-bush-clinton.

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Carole Fishman, Las Vegas, NV — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:29:01 GMT

In all my years of voting, I have never seen a candidate run for president who runs on a speechwriters words, sounds good, one gets so impressed. But where is the media, who most people rely on for info, on questioning so much on Sen. Obama. Yesterday morning I read the front page of the NY Times on Sen. Obama and the nuclear energy bill he says he passed (he didn't) and not one talking head on TV even brought it up. Other than a reporter many weeks back from the Washington Post writing about the church that Mr. Obama belongs to...not one talking head discusses this. But I'll bet the Republicans are sitting and waiting and chopping at the bit if Sen. Obama gets the nomination. What gives???????

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Thomas Smith, Washington, D.C. — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:29:04 GMT

I just don't get all the hype over Obama. His rhetoric sounds like the same thing we heard eight years ago from George Bush -- another inexperienced candidate who promised to bring a kinder, gentler America together. We lived in a dangerous world then and underestimated what we would need in a president and I fear we may be doing the same thing again.

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Brooke, San Diego, CA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:31:25 GMT

It is rediculous to me that people are crying about casting early ballots in CA. Why would people change their mind so much in one day? Maybe because Oprah has popped back up and with out her Obama wouldn't stand a chance. The guy has no experience and a sketchy background.

I attended a rally for Mrs. Clinton where she talked in depth about her stance on ALL of the issues. She is poised, graceful, humble, and articulate and I am convinced that she is by far the smart choice for President! In my opinion, with the mess our Country is in right now, we are fools to not put her in office!

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Liz K — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:33:44 GMT

Look, Romney should win the GOP nomination. Period. Don't hold his wealth against him; if you do then you're simply jealous. He is spending hiw OWN money to run for President because it's a cause he's believes in and he CAN make a change! Simply being a war hero DOES NOT (and let me repeat again) DOES NOT make you qualified for President. It qualifies McCain in ONE issue: National Security. We've heard him admit he doesn't have a clue about the economy and he's all for amnesty. Consider how he would do with multiple issues and then tell me if you think he'd be a good President. He took cheap shots at Romney and you ALL know it. Why do you want a President with no character? Get over your personal biases with Romney and look for who would be the MOST qualified at beating a Democrat! It's not about you, it's about this nation. Do what's best for the Republican party. Speaking of which, still no clue why Huckabee and Paul are even in this race....

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Peter , Phila,PA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:46:54 GMT

I'll never vote for a man whose greatest achievement was Chicago community activist. As the ex CEO of GE said today, "He is a great speaker, but I'll never vote for him."

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Beck, Houston, TX — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:47:37 GMT

"do you just think that if a person is not your candidate you must tear them down as republicans do democrats???"

Ummm, have you been watching the debates and speeches. If I had a dollar for every time I heard, "We need to end the tyranny of the Republicans," or "we need to stand together against the evilness of the Republicans," I'd be able to retire early. All that I've heard in the past few months, is one Republican or another, or all in general, being blamed for every single evil act in the world, or being blamed for every problem. Look at your own words, you're attacking an entire party while accusing them of the same actions. A perfect example of the hypocracy that's unfortunately shown by so many Democrats lately. Morally, the only choice I have this election is to vote Republican, as all I hear on the other end is false accusations and proposals which rob from the lower class and attack businesses (which just affects the lower class even more by jacking up consumer costs and eliminating job opportunities), all in the guise of helping the needed. Watch the debates, there's a very noticeable difference between the Democrats and the Republicans running this term, and it's not the left that's taking the majority of the attacks.

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K, Seattle — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:51:53 GMT

Thanks Chuck; I just hope that more and more people keep doing the same thought process; really going thru the issues to make their choice.

Go Obama Go! YES WE CAN!

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Mary — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:52:37 GMT

Gina 1:18 PM ....
Well said. Why is the media NOT reminding the public that Clinton, while playing president, was offered bin laden (more than once) by Sudan and the Clintons refused. Also Clinton had one of the pilots who flew into the WTC on 9/11 in custody an released him. Refusing to keep that terriorist in prison. Is this what we want again... another 9/11 after they were finished playing president again.... AND Clinton is the reason that all our jobs went to other countries. The American people need to be reminded of all the Clintons have done for our country.

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Joe — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:52:52 GMT

I say this. a INDEPENDENCE PARTY!!! There will be no REAL change until a real change is made. Not a single one of these candidates are going to try and make any change at all. Why? Because they are all tied to PAC money and Big Business. Until we get that out of government than there will be no change.
Go to MNIP.ORG for what we are about.
I will never vote for either party again.

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Terry,Dayton OH — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:52:53 GMT

How is being first lady for eight years experince for the commander in chief it's not, if you elect Hilary you elect Bill not Hillary.

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Brooke San Diego, CA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:53:40 GMT

Someone mentioned on here that Hillary is "spinning" the truth about her healthcare plan, how about the media is spinning the truth on her healthcare plan. I heard it straight from Mrs. Clinton herself and she wants a system that has people paying in what they can based on income. Get a clue: HEALTHCARE needs serious reform and she is the ONLY candidate that cares and will get us there!!!

FACT: In a State University auditorium full of students and educators 3/4's of the room raised their hands that either themselves or someone they knew did not have ANY healthcare benefits, including myself!

FACT: Taxpayers spend BILLIONS of dollars every year to cover the un-insured. I persoanally know someone that has ran up a bill of over $750,000 that is coming straight out of the pockets of you and I!

FACT: Hillary Clinton is the only candidate who has demonstrated that she cares and is actually going to get something done about this issue. She is presenting a plan that is not only good for the lower and middle-class citizens but the economy over-all!

Get a clue people, in my opinion the Republican owned media institutions slandering Mrs. Clinton are shaking in their boots because they know she is actually going to do something for the Middle Class and people like you and me! Are we really stupid enough to let them do this to us!?!?

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Ross — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:54:30 GMT

Why is Huckabee still here? Why is he targeting Romney in his stump speeches lately doesn't he know McCain is ahead in the polls? Strange.

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Marley, down south — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:54:54 GMT

If the candidates for President included Clinton..I WILL VOTE FOR ANOTHER REPUBLICAN OR THE INDEPENDENT...to me that would be the lesser of two evils...I as a woman have worked under administrations with both a male and female in power and I got more respect for the male in power than the female...this has happened under 2 females and 2 males and everytime the woman in power treated all females like dirt and showed little or NO RESPECT for other females....SO I could only imagine what Hillary Clinton would do since it was only the women who mess around with Bill...it was all their faults and not Billy Boys fault... SO I SAY NO TO ANOTHER CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE>>>HELL NO<<<<<<

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Marley, down south — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:54:55 GMT

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Craig Buehler, Dayton, NV — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:55:07 GMT

Nothing will change if you vote for Obama or Romney or any one of the "two party system" candidates. The faces and names will change but it will still be the same ole crap. It's too bad that the only candidate with a plan to change this country has been ignored by the media, as they were paid to ignore him.

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Daniel, TN — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:56:21 GMT

While I don't support any of the Democrats running this term, Obama stands a reasonable chance as voters seem to be switching to him rather rapidly. Many are starting to comment on her "experience", realizing that she has no relevant experience to lead in the White House. After so many months, questions are finally being asked regarding her extensive resume. The most basic way of putting it, if someone has 30 years experience as a, for example, a lawyer, then despite the strong work experience the person has no qualifications to be a doctor. She lived in the White House as First Lady. Sleeping there doesn't grant experience; the cook lived there longer, does that make him qualified? She has legal experience. Ok, how does that grant experience as an economist, which is supposed to be the main focus and job for the President. As a Senator, looking at her time in service it can be seen that she still doesn't have the necessary economic experience. As far as relevance goes, Obama has a smaller resume but more of it applies to the actual job that both are fighting for. I think that if she keeps focusing on experience, she stands no chance of winning. More and more I see questions being asked regarding that actual experience, and she can state very little which actually fits with the specific job being applied for, and she proves that lack of experience with every proposal of hers, failing to note to the people the extensive cost and how every so-called assistance program costs the individuals more than they receive in return. Even ignoring her shady past and unethical practices, she simply doesn't have the knowledge and capabilities, as shown in her actions and work experience.

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KG, Sonora,Ca — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:59:20 GMT

Gina

You seem to know an awful lot about the personal bedroom life of Hillary. Who's your informed source? I am sure Obama's court would love to have it. They could do some real damage to the Hillary court. Base your judgements of the candidates on what's important not on emotional drivel. If you llike Obama because you think he's really the best vote for him but leave the low unsubstantiated slurs out of it. Politics is dirty enough.

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SJS, Plymouth, MA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:59:31 GMT

We've had a businessman in the White House for the past seven-plus years and look what that has achieved. I am voting for a candidate who is comfortable with diversity and who will restore the U.S.'s status in the world. Neither Abraham Lincoln nor John F. Kennedy had any CEO experience or, for that matter, much political experience when he took over. Yet, they rate far above some of the presidents who had "experience" in politics or as a CEO. We need Barack Obama!

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Anna Mikulskas, Naperville, Illinois — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:00:18 GMT

One question: What has Mr. Obama done for the citizens of Illinois so far. We still don't have usury laws, the Check-and-Go's still suck the blood of the citizens and are still in business. Employers still have all the rights (not like in California). And, by the way, what are those CHANGES he is talking about?

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AJ, Middletown, Ohio — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:01:44 GMT

It's amazing to me how everyone talks about how Obama is "all talk and no action". Please define to me what deems "action to be action". He graduated Magna Cum Laude for Harvard Law, worked as a civil rights attorney in Southside Chicago, taught constitutional/civil rights law and Unv. of Chicage, worked tiredlessly for as an Illinois legislator and US Senator. Yes, he is a brillant speaker, but all you have to do is check the facts to see that he is so much more. He was very specific about the issues in the debate, and if you need further proof, check out his website. He has overcome so much in his life, and the fact that he is able to be a viable candidate for president, says that he got to this point by more than just rhetoric. Try perserverance, diligence, hard-work, intelligence, courage, suppport, and a fighting spirit. Give the man some credit. He's not a village idiot like our current president, and to compare him is just plain absurd.

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Not For Obama — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:03:42 GMT

I have thought about and living here in Illinois...Ive decided to go for Clinton. PS MSNBC you run the most biased of all the news channels..Period Are you guys in Obama's pocket or are you afraid if you say anything you'll be called Racist and be the next Imus??? Msnbc is one (though small) I'm voting for Hillary! She should thank you MSNBC

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las.ky — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 19:03:57 GMT

If Obama wins anything, he should thank the media. He is a "speaker", only, but are we really seeing the man for what he is. The media always wants a good story. He does not have the experience to lead the country, unless he gets himself another "Dick Chaney" to tell him what to do in foreign policy issues. We know how that works. Clinton is strong and knows what she is doing and has worked with all the issues America is troubled with at this time. If we think for a moment America would be better off without a "political" person leading the country I am sure all our enemies will be very pleased with Obama as America's president. I and many many others will cast our votes for Clinton. The ones who cast their votes for Obama should, instead, tune into a good movie and cheer for the slick talker to get the next contract. Hillary!!!!!

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first time voter, NJ — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:10:16 GMT

Why isn't Barack Obama using his middle name HUSSEIN? For someone who talks about equality, maybe he doesn't want to be prejudiced because the name reminds us of "someone evil" who meant us harm.

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hudson, san diego, ca — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:11:26 GMT

I'm a african-american female registered dem. in the state of ca. I'm following the money and past performance, sadley I'm unwilling to vote for Obama or Clinton. Is it too late to change my party affiliation?

Hudson, San Diego

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LB FL — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:14:33 GMT

A month or so ago I viewed a tape on youtube about Obama refusing to place his hand over his heart during the national anthem. This disturbed me so bad, to think that we might actually have a president, who refuses to wear a flag pin ( seems meaningless, yes} but what message does this send to other countries? I mean we are at war in 2 countries, patriotism should count especially in a presiden.And this made me wander if he wasn't sending some kind of message to the Arab coutries. He is part Mosslim isn't he? I disagreed with the war from the begining but made me wander what his reasons were for voting against the war. I got this youtube video of Obama in an email and have never seen it televised on any news station. WHY? I think it is something the american people should see before they cast their vote. Wonder if maybe the republican run news media is saving it to play when it comes down to Obama and the republican nominee. Go to you tube and check it out. Very disturbing to me.

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Virginia Hiatt Fort Lauderdale Florida — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:17:01 GMT

It is delusional to think that politics will be any different in the future if Obama wins the Democratic nomination. If Obama wins, he will be attacked just as viciously and constantly as Hillary will be. Look at the internet trash about him being a Muslim because you will be seeing that in national ads. It amazes me when people say Hillary is too devisive. It is not Hillary that is devisive, it is the country that is divided. What happens is Republican politics, pure and simple. Either candidate will be slandered, lied about and swift boated. Vote for the one you think can take the heat, or the one you think can rise above it, or whatever other criteria you have, but don't vote for Obama because the other side has not as yet demonized him. The winner of the nomination will be demonized enough by the Republicans without the help of Democratic voters.

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Afia, MI — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:17:19 GMT

People keep harping on Obama's lack of executive experience, but fail to acknowledge that Hillary Clinton also lacks executive experience. Being married to a former president doesn't make you presidential. Obama was a state legislator for some 6-8 years. As a result, Obama and Hillary Clinton have almost the same amount of legislative experience, but neither candidate has any executive experience.

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Tom Kinser, Indianapolis, IN — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:53:07 GMT

Present votes, missed button votes, did everyone miss his explaination on a present vote for a bill he authored...he said it came to his attention it would not pass judicial scurtiny...if he is such a brillant lawyer,,,why did he author a bill that would not pass judical review? Talk about pandering..Obama is truly a scirpted POLITICIAN...WAKE UP AMERICA BEFORE ITS TOO LATE!!!

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Alan, Anchorage, AK — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:53:17 GMT

I wouldn't expect an early "surge" of votes unless the unemployment rate is grossly mis-understood at 4.9%!Shouldn't everyone be at work and after 5 or 6pm they rush to cast?
I really don't understand why,when Obama's & Oprah speak in front of a predominately Afro-American crowd,they alter their dialect.(ie: SC Vs. NH ). It doesn't seem to make the content of the speach any better or any worse...I myself get annoyed because it causes distraction.I keep wondering the "why's" instead of paying attention to the content.

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dwayne ( new york) — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 20:59:20 GMT

for the first time we the young people has a voice i american politic. forget the millions and billions to be elected. we finally have a voice. thank you obama. money will not win this election. w efound our voice through barrack obama. its a matter of the hope and the intellectual that obama brings on the table unlike the dumb and dumber bush & cheney C average at yale.

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Brian C. Lansing, NC — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:00:51 GMT

I'm just terribly disappointed in you as I am all the main-stream media for brainwashing the public into believing that there is no Ron Paul. You don't mention him, or the fact that he, unlike any other candidate, actually answers questions posed to him whether you like the answer or not. There is but one choice for us to break from the status quo, Ron Paul: the thinking persons choice!

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Dick Burton Bedford Indiana — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:04:07 GMT

Well i personally think that you crybabies on both sides of the isles need to just stop the bickering back and forth with each other, and just get out your own vote.Who ever wins is going to. No matter how much you try to change thier minds.Our maker gave all of us freewill to think for ourselves and do our own thing be it right or wrong. You all sound and act like a bunch of sheep anxiously waiting to be led to slaughter. Wake up people, Smell the coffee. The press is woking you to thier way of thinking.Use your own mind.don't let anyone sway your way of thinking. Please vote for the candidate of your choice be it DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN,Your vote is your vote.No one can change it and they should let you make up your own mind. If you goof up then you don't to have answer to anyone but you and you alone. don't let anyone influence your decision. If they screw up you can give them heck. If they do good then i will by all means pat them on the back also. So good luck to you and WHO YOU VOTE FOR. AND "GOD PLEASE BLESS US ALL".

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purpleblood — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:04:48 GMT

wow i am concerned! if these bozo's are all we have running for president then we will be a socialist state within 20 years.

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marie thomson — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:05:19 GMT

Polls say it is Romney and Clinton ahead in Cali. That is what the ballot will read in November. Both Zogby and Rasmussen look like Romney is rising while McCain is slipping and Clinton is holding her own against Obama.

Washington is broken, FIX IT MITT!!!!!!!!!

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Rastaman — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:07:03 GMT

To the moderators....y'll all bull shit artiste, that fart the whole day....So go to hell...I support the "GANGSTA" to win. McCain.Hillary/billary, Obama, Romneyand Fuckabee will all burn in hell....

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CJG, PA — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:08:19 GMT

I agree with the one person above wouldn't it be great to have Obama/McCain. The best of both parties, diversity, experience and a man who handles himself well. I am voting for Obama but I think it would be great if the two could be Pres/Vpres. Best of both worlds and good for the US CJG-PA
S.

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Ivan,Garland,texas — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:08:33 GMT

Jus like the Giants, Hillary will win....

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John — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:12:28 GMT

As a Republican I'm supporting Hillary. If she does not get the nomination I guess I will vote for MaCain.
I think Hillary is the best qualified to do the job that needs to be done.

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Ken, Chicago, IL — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:15:32 GMT

Obama should not only be thanking the liberal news media if he wins, but he should be thanking the Lord that he is half black. If he were just another white candidate running, he would have been one of the candidates that have already dropped out of the race. I say this because he has no record of running anything, he has no voting record to speak of, he has done nothing for us here in IL. and he has not explained one change he is going to make by definition. People don't want open promises, we want and need these plans explained in detail...HOW? The only 2 things Obama has going for him is the fact that he is good at performing speaches and he is half black....I see nothing else that he has proven or anyone of his supporters have proven...just open ended promises.

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Now I See — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:16:53 GMT

Is this country truly audacious enough to believe in hope again?

I read the previous comments about Senator Obama's experience. Huh. It appears many have forgotten that Mr. Bush was a two-term Governor of the very large state of Texas when he became President. Many argue that being Governor is a stepping stone to the U.S. Presidency because of the great experience of managing a state which apparently gives one insight into managing the country. Bush surrounded himself with those whom were deemed the "Dream Team" of skilled policymakers and, brilliant thinkers on issues of defense. Yet we have a 21st Century Viet Nam in Iraq with NO END in sight. The Taliban and al Qaeda have both regrouped in Afghanistan because we squandered our goodwill with the rest of the world by going after a threat that wasn't eminent. President Clinton, because of his domestic scandal with a White House intern, was unable to fully focus on American’s business, such as bin Laden, thus leaving him free to help orchestrate the 911 attack. President Clinton also ignored the genocide in Rwanda and the Congo. Madeline Albright who was his Secretary of State at the time, refused to acknowledge that the mass killings in Rwanda was in fact genocide. At the same time acknowledging that what happened in Bosnia was genocide. I bring Albright name in because she has been seen on the campaign trail with Senator Clinton. It seems to me many of those from the Clinton Whitehouse years will be part of (if elected) the Hillary Whitehouse.

Both Bush and Clinton's poor economic policies have the country heading for a catastrophic recession via allowing lending institutions to use loan shark practices. Both administrations created the illusion that more middle class Americans were doing well, when in actuality more Americans were buying homes they couldn't afford, buying beyond their economic capacity via credit card debt, and now the chickens have come home to roost. President Clinton said his administration was building a bridge to the 21st century; however, some folk were left stuck on the Gretna Bridge in New Orleans, like the Katrina victims. Millions of working poor Americans never made it across during the alleged success of the Clinton years. More children dropped out of school. More American jobs were shipped overseas (Ross Perot anyone?). I could go on but when people start looking back on the Clinton years with nostalgic eyes, I have to chuckle a little bit because they certainly are doing the same thing that they accused the Obama supporters of doing now.

If Hillary Clinton experience is quantified by her many years as a corporate attorney, then I say no thanks.
If Hillary Clinton’s experience is valued because she advised and served on the board of Wal-Mart, then I say no thanks.
If Hillary Clinton experience is claiming to provide health coverage by garnishing the wages of the working poor and middle class, then I say no thanks.

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Renae, Phoenix, Arizona — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:18:03 GMT

"By relying on governors to certify that the border is secure, McCain is shirking responsibility," Napolitano said.
This is McCain's State Govenor from AZ speaking. McCain's border stands are unacceptable! Being a rep of Arizona, he should know what a big issue illegal immigration is! Mitt Romney is the best choice!

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Susan Leihy, Santa Rosa, California — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:19:21 GMT

Obama is a wonderful speaker, but he has been running a campaign of "vagueness" without any challenges by the media. I believe the media is afraid to question, or criticize, Obama for fear of being called racist.

Yet on the other hand, you have Senator Clinton under lots of scrutiny that none of the males running are under.

I don't know how anyone can be for the Republican candidates that are running. None of them are pro-choice, and all want to turn over Roe vs. Wade. Also, they want to continue the fiscal policies of the Bush Administration. Then, McCain has stated that we will be "in Iraq for 100 years!" It seem as if the Karl Rove Republican machine has gotten behind McCain because of his support for Bush in 2004, and for his continued support for anything Bush wants. To me, electing McCain is re-electing Bush. Romney will say anything, and then contradict himself the next day.

I am voting for Senator Hillary Clinton because she does have experience, and is smart and capable. She was not treated like a "Ming Vase" as first lady. She was out in the Federal government agencies working on policy. That is how she came up with her health program by visiting the Medicare agency. She is a proven Senator. I do not hold it against her for initially voting for the war due to the pack of lies that were being given to Congress by the Bush Administration. There was a report issued recently citing 900+ lies about the War by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and Colin Powell! She has changed her position on the war.

Also, I have heard in person many criticisms of Clinton by Obama that I would title "sexist" - yet no one will report about it. He has belittled her the way many professional women have been belittled in the workplace.

Obama believes that Reagan was a "good President." Obviously, he does not understand history. At the end of the Reagan Administration, the states and cities were just as they are today-- in disrepair because federal dollars were curtailed to the local governments during his Administration.

I remember the 90's under Bill Clinton as being a time of prosperity, and our country being admired by other countries.

I am voting for Senator Clinton because she will:

1) End the War in Iraq

2) Ensure quality, affordable health care with real choices for all Americans.

3) Reduce our dependence on foreign oil.

4) Make government work again by ending the Bush era incompetence and restore confidence in government.

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mark — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:22:25 GMT

You people are nuts and so full of yourselves that can not even see through rose colored glasses. This Obama thing is a misleading bunch of bull. Money being spent for no reason. He could not lead a pack of donkeys to the stables. But with all these so called high dollar endorsements of late you all think he can lead this nation. Boy you people been really smoking something.
You need to really think about the future of this nation, your children, grandchildren and the rest of the world. Because the real stuffs coming soon.

Obama is not it folks.

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BP — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:23:14 GMT

All the Kennedy girls and Oprah should stay home have tea, and count their MILLIONS. Incecure women do not vote for a women only strong women & men will support a women. Hillary is the only one who can take on the Republicans. Obama can read a good speech but that won't make you a good leader. HIllARY all the way.

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Nancee Phoenix — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:23:19 GMT

Is anybody out there, regardless of who you are voting for, getting a bit nauseated from all of the Kennedy endorsements? I find it quite arrogant that the Kennedy's think that we care. Let this family clean up their act internally and leave the voting to the people.

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Roy ,Kirksville, Mo — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:25:19 GMT

Let pray Hillary will win over Obama. I know Hillary`s best for pesident of USA .Keep it for 8 years..Not need Obama , he can wait other 8 years .
Go Go Hillary!!!

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john san diego ca — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:09:30 GMT

since reagan, we for change, have a voice and our opinion. romney and mccain are not consrvatives. they have their faith(i guess) obama prays to Jesus in his ads as does huckabee. my vote is for Barrack. im conservative, and this is rare, im with kennedy. we are not a conservative america we are not a liberal america. we are the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

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Lindsey, CA — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:10:26 GMT

The entire Kennedy Family has devoted their public lives to service, how dare you make light of that fact. You may not like them endorsing Senator Obama, but don't negate the enormous contribution 'that' family has made to this country!

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R.G. Rhyne, Newton, North Carolina — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:14:09 GMT

The two ex-governor candidates and ex-mayor candidate choose to ignore enforcement of the1996 immigration law. Yet, they followed government mandates to spend our money on the illegal aliens through our social services, schools and hospitals. I am a believer that their action speaks louder than their words. You know, Albert Einstein had a way to prove stupidity. He said, “If you continue to do the same thing over and over again expecting a different outcome then the answer is obvious, you’re stupid.” So, if you are going to do the same thing over and over again by voting for a republican or democrat and are expecting a different result from their service then you fit Albert Einstein’s definition. So, show your intelligence get behind Tom Millican and help him become the first citizen’s president since George Washington. http://www.tommillican.com

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jjazz, Los Angeles, CA — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:17:04 GMT

Hey guys! You've got it all wrong. Romney's the man! I'm banking on him. He's got my vote. Sorry dems.

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JM Walnut Creek California — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:27:59 GMT

Obama ia arrogant young and inexperienced. We as a country dont need that kind of leader; so please vote for Hillary Clinton

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tom san luis obispo ca — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:31:12 GMT

if rommey wins will he let us all see the golden plates of angel moroney

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Zackie, M — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:32:47 GMT

Barack Obama is the only choice! We are a fortunate nation to have such an outstanding champion. He will provide solid leadership in and outside the U.S.

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Suzyb, Houston, Tx — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:36:56 GMT

Obama doesnt have any experience. He wouldn't even be where he is today if it wasnt for Oprah. And, he wouldn't have the endorsement of the Kennedy's if it wasn't for Oprahs money being thrown at there charities. Please, he wouldn't have any endorsements at all if it wasn't for either people trying to gain favor w/Oprah or Oprah gaining favor with them with her money. This guy has all the makings of just another corrupt politicians. Maybe if I was in bed with Oprah I might see his charm or charisma but so far it still eludes me. This whole spectacle of there selling this guy is just that, a spectacle. And, if he were by some miracle to win anything I would have to make my residence in another country. Lastly, Oprah has had a handful of latinos on her show in all her almost 30 yrs of business and now she's out speaking spanish and vying for our vote...huh!

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SARAH SMITH WINTER PARK, FLORIDA — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:40:34 GMT

There is only one candidate that has the qualifications to be PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES,and that person IS HILLARY CLINTON. OBAMA is wonderful, young and energenic but what can he offer as President? How can he be in charge when he doesn't have any experience? The only reason that he is getting all these famous people behind him is that they are against Hillary. So many people just don't like the CLINTON. WHY I DON'T KNOW. we all did well when Bill was president. Think about this before you vote. GO HILLARY.

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EMS, New Jersey — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:44:59 GMT

Give me a break..

Romney and Clinton are only in it for political ambitions.. Democracy as a whole will fail if these 2 are nominated.. You women should be ashamed of yourselves if you are voting based on gender.

Mike Huckabee is a nice guy but he also has his own religous agenda. He cannot win..

Ron Paul is nuts sometimes.. I like the fact that he is a constitutionalist.. he can't win.

John McCain.. He is too old, his politics are too tired and at this point his view on the war and terrorism is fouled at best. He and his mother need to retire to the old peoples home.

Obama offers a fresh view, new politics, better ideas and he does not owe any favors to lobbyist and special interest groups.

People who vote for these other people are either out of touch with what America needs, are voting based on gender or just plain freaking nuts..

GO-BAMA!

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anu hotep, Oakland, Ca — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:49:43 GMT

To Todd, Murray & Montanaro, I must say as an unbiased reader of your column & from a person who has not voted for the last three presidents of this country, your conventional favoratism for the Clinton's campaign here in california may reflect a bit more like prejudice than bias in efforts to state that the candidate who wins california the most influential state in the union. I ask that you provide your readers with actual facts as opposed to speculation the country is already at a major & unique crossroads. As we usher in the age of accountablity beyond The bush family & The clinton family an image of faith will be provided for the people in the form of Barack Obama. NO need to question the fact that Clinton need be on ticket if the Clinton campaign beckons to assist the citizens of this nation lets's hold her to it!!!!

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teopa — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:50:59 GMT

Previous post: "Our maker gave all of us freewill to think for ourselves and do our own thing be it right or wrong. Use your own mind.don't let anyone sway your way of thinking. Your vote is your vote. So good luck to you and WHO YOU VOTE FOR. AND "GOD PLEASE BLESS US ALL"

My two cents: Oligarchy isnt good for democracy. Just say NO to dyNASTY. Billary put the crown DOwn!

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Don Sorensen, Middleton, MA — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:02:08 GMT

PLEASE - Just don't let Romney do to the country what he did to Massachusetts!!

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Susan,Knoxville,TN — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:20:00 GMT

McCain jinxed the Patriots.

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bernard larsen — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:30:07 GMT

No one has a problem with the leader of our country being the wife of the former leader? we are moving away from being a republic to being an inherited monarchy? and Dems were worried about bush eroding freedoms?

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Dhavynia — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:37:28 GMT

I think MSNBC is sponsoring Obama all the way because all I hear from their news is how he's the golden child. I do not think that they are actually paying attention to what the readers and listeners are actually saying. If the American people want change, why would they give the opportunity to someone that has little experience like Obama?

Does anyone really think that Americans will vote for a candidate because he's being sponsored by a Kennedy?

Does the media think that Americans are so shallow that we will vote for someone because Oprah says so? Give me a break!!!

I want someone with experience and to me that someone is Clinton. I hate to say it but if Obama does get elected to represent the party, I will vote for the republican candidate. If Bush brought this country to its current phase, what makes me think that someone with no experience will do better?

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alexis smith, clendale,calif. — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:38:55 GMT

i am an obama supporter. i want the white people to vote for OBAMA SO THE WHITE PEOPLE WILL SUBMIT OR WORSHIP OBAMA. THIS IS THE WAY OF THE WHITE PEOPLE BY SUPPORTIGN BARACK OBAMA IT MEANS TOTALL SURRENDER OF THE WHITE PEOPLE TO THE BLACK. IT IS HIGH TIME THE WHITE PEOPLE ARE THE SLAVES OF BLACK PEOPLE.

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Jeffrey Smith Brillion Wisc. — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:41:09 GMT

DEADHEADS FOR REAL CHANGE
Why you should boycott the Dead Show

Little Brothers and Sisters
When has the Dead ever jumped on a soapbox for politicians? I've been around you guys since 1966 and NEVER saw you do it. We made a commitment to seeing in an age of non-violent,environmentally conscious,people oriented movements. Remember it was Bush's Daddy that put up Operation Dead Stop, the scene was over run by COINTELPRO and DeadHeads were bastardized as lazy dirty useless Hippies. You and I both know nothing was further from the truth. It was hippies that got the EPA. It was Hippies that created the first free food and Free Clinics back when our Government could'nt give a damn about the poor. They still don't.
I can get behind being active,hell I'm running a counter culture style campaign for president myself,but to say DeadHeads back some democrat that only did'nt vote for the war because he was'nt in Congress at the time and has never cast a real vote since he's been in,flies in the face of everything we've fought and some died for,for the last fourty years. Don't get me wrong,I don't think any of the so-called candidates are worth a bag of shit, because they are all supported by corperations that only care about profits and not the fact they are killing every living thing with their pollution. That these people really don't give a damn about the poor,elderly,or all the hungry and ill children. There's not one of them that's a true Peacemaker. Not one of them is interested in changing the policies that got us 9/11. My Ideas may be radical,utopian and drastic but after the 'moving so far to the right as to be unrecognizable',as Nixion proclaimed, they need to be. Yes I'd like to see see Bush and Co. jailed for their actions that took us into Iraq,and, they should be, shit Kesey had to leave the country for doing very much less. I'm all for people having a choice,that's real democracy. But don't roll out 'Wave that Flag' and DeadHeads Support So and So, since most of them live in the income bracket that will see the least amout of tax relief effort sent their way. The Democrats and the Republicans have become the same Party and what they have done to all of us, is what it is, Tyranny. If you want to hop up on a soapbox for someone at least do it for a cause that really stands up for the People,the Environment, Non-Violence and creating policies that bring us to Peace,not just a choice of the lesser of two evils.You and I both know what that spells...SELL-OUT.
I still see Mickey,Phil and Bob as Brothers and don't worry all of you together would'nt come close to being in the 90% tax bracket I talk about the wealthy being held accountable to,but the machine behind the candidates is.
Power through Peace,Power for the People
Jeffrey7
People Over Tyrants Party

Draft Candidate for Presidentwww.youtube.com/RevJeffrey7

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Ringneck1 — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:50:01 GMT

All of you Clinton fans must read the Article "CLINTON DONORS OVERLAP" just write it in your web search bar and it will pop right up for you.

This article will explain most of the real scams the Clintons have pulled off for the last 15 years.

Clinton followers must get their heads out of the sand and read these facts. It's for the money "LOUIE"

These two have pardoned many many people because of multi million dollar pledges to the Clinton Library Foundation which they can launder to their own pockets.

You will see in the article where Clinton Pardoned Marc Rich AFTER, Yes AFTER a $450,000.00 Donation, is that what you really want?

Really this 2-1/2 page article is for your own good for your own good.

If Clinton gets in, Myself and most of the Obama and Edwards people, or 1/2 of the Democrats will more than likely vote Republican, What ever it takes!

STOP HER NOW
Ringneck1

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Lindsey, CA — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:07:11 GMT

I wonder why Marian Wright Edelman hasn't weighed in on Hillary Clinton's candidacy for President. I mean Clinton name drops the Children's Defense Fund every chance she gets, right? Interesting absence in the list of Mrs. Clinton's supporters. Could it be that Mrs. Edelman was greatly disappointed in how little the issue of children matter during those Clinton White House years.

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George Wallace — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 02:58:31 GMT

Cluck, All i hear when i hear Obama speak besides hatred and vileness and bigotry is blah blah blah ,bla blah blah.Hope snd change.Let me say it again,Vote for me i am hope and change!?!? Whatever that means?????? He is for nothing except himself and furthering his agenda and he will be about as honest as he has been so far which is not at all and the same as the current congress which promised to run a positive term and get over all the political bickering and congessional investigations.First thing they did was attack attack attack.Obama says im running a positive campaign and the MEDIa like you have been saying how great he is for running a positive campaign, while all along going afterHilliary with attack attack attack. Sotuh Carolinian's vote for me Hilliary is racist.Then when Bill calls out the Media fr the biased and double standardness of their reporting,they blame him and say he and Hilliary brought up the rae card to cover Obama's butt as they have done the whole time.A lot of people know how Obama has gotten where he has gotten so far and the extremely dirty tricks he has played and the typical MEDIA backing of these dirty tricks.Par for the coarse.Makes you question anything in History in the last 20 years or more. Now i understand whhy there are so many conspiracy theorists.

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carolyn, philadelphia, pa — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:20:19 GMT

I must applaud you Chuck. For the first time someone on msnbc or nbc has exposed a little dirt on Obama. I am a republican and I hope that Hillary wins the nod but I must admit that I have never seen as much bias towards a candidate as yall have given Obama. It's actually a little disgusting. I just wish you guys could hide that big crush yall have on Obama a little better. Its a shame when the only reporter that has gone after Obama up until this point has been Meridith Viera.

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M Cohen Westchester County NY — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:26:16 GMT

If Obama sent in his resume, he wouldn't even be called in for an interview. In the words of Erica Jong, he is smart and attractive, but has little experience. In addition to her work in politics, Hillary's life long pro bono work has been for women and children, two groups often oppressed. She would be a real voice for these groups, that we have never had in this country in addition to reforming healthcare and ending the war in Iraq in a responsible way. (Yes she made a mistake voting for the war, but what politician has not tried to move to the center in order to get elected?). For the past 8 years this country has had a president without enough experience. Look what happened. It appears it's going to happen again. While Obama offers hope to some, in others he elicits fear. In a time of war and economic crisis, how can we elect someone with no resume? Won't we ever learn?

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Wm., Schererville, IN — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:52:56 GMT

Obama is no more well loved in Illinois than the rest of the Democratic machine in the state. It is simply a one party state, with essentially total media contol out of Chicago - one dares not cross "da mayor." There's no ideology in Illinois; it's who has the best shot at bringing the bucks in from D.C.