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jaycee, Ventura, California — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:22:34 GMT

Ok, super duper Tuesday has come and gone and Barack is still standing tall. This would be a good time for all of you who want to endlessly repeat that he’s a lightweight, all talk and no accomplishments, hasn’t paid his dues, has no specific plans, blah, blah, blah, to stop displaying your ignorance in public and get to know the candidate. He carries a truly impressive set of accomplishments, his performance yesterday among them. You don’t emerge from the Harvard Law School program with honors, for instance, unless you possess one of the sharpest minds in the nation. And everything he has accomplished has been ALL ON HIS OWN. He started with no advantages whatsoever and a lot of strikes against him, and look how far he has come.

I know, it’s pretty scary. People who get to know him tend to move in his direction and you don’t want to do that. But if we learned anything in the run-up to the war, we should know that repeating something over and over does not make it true. I don’t expect you to read his books, but you obviously have internet access and all the information to swat down this ridiculous spin is readily available to anyone who is serious about casting an informed vote.

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ObamaRama — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:24:47 GMT

NY,CA,MA(LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL),NJ. Barry is the Spinal Tap candidate, playing the small venues. If McCain, "Didn't close the deal", because he can only seem to win in states that repubs LOSE in the GE, what does that say about Barry?

Huge win in the BIG states for the next president of the USA Hillary Rodham Clinton. Congratulations to Hillary and her team...

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RobK, Seattle, Wash. — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:32:15 GMT

By Clinton winning mainly MA, CA, and NY, it bodes ill for the General Election since she can't win that many "red" states.

Basically, a vote for CLinton is a vote for McCain in Nov.

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Lynette, NYC — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:38:44 GMT

Howard Dean and Chris MAtthews were having an interesting conversation yesterday and Dean was asked, is there such a time when these two candidates should make an alliance so as not further divide the democratic party. Dean said there is a time for that, but as of yesterday it was not the time. It seems like its half and half. Rather than make it ugly, something should be worked out.

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San Francisco Voter — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:54:47 GMT

Clinton won California because of a MASSIVE gap amongst Latino(a)s and Asians. I'll let that fact stand without comment, although it probably deserves some.

She lost in all the highly-educated sections of the state, such as the Bay Area. Obama would win CA in a landslide in November, as he would in MA and NY. For those trumpeting NY, MA, and CA wins, you may want to think a bit harder about the national election.

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J, OH — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:54:54 GMT

“There is no doubt … we hope and pray every night to run against Hillary Clinton,” - Ari Fleischer, on CNN last night.

Which is exactly why we need to make sure Obama wins the nomination. Clinton, no matter how good she may be as president, no matter how much experience she has, simply will not win the general election. Sorry folks, just how it will be.

I'm sure some Hillary supporters will try and spin it that he's using reverse psychology, but you are just trying to fool yourself. Everyone sees it but you.

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Robert, Buffalo — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:55:11 GMT

A week ago, Clinton was leading in 20 of 22 Super Tuesday states. Now the results are mostly in, and it appears that Obama will win 14 of 22 states, many of which he was down by double-digits only a week ago. This is an extraordinary victory--not nearly enough to clinch the nomination, but a sign of things to come. Plus, as RobK from Seattle notes above, Clinton has shown an ability to win voters and states that Democrats almost always win. In a general election, Obama will easily win California and New York, plus many others. It is Clinton who must now deal with the question of electability. She must also counter the increased scrutiny that will now be paid to her Iraq votes and her family's financial connections to the Saudi royal family and a major businessman in Dubei, who have given over 100 million dollars each to the Clinton library and the Clinton foundation, respectively.

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Emily , Fredericksburg, VA — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 14:58:07 GMT

Democrats need to understand just two things.... firstly, if it comes down to Obama & McCain, the Republic machine will continue to steamroll over America. Hillary can beat McCain, and face down the Republican machine in the House & Senate. Obama lacks the intestinal fortitude. His many votes of just "present", tells us he will play it safe everytime, rather than stand up and make a decision. Hillary will fight for her beliefs and her campaign promises and bring glory back to the Democratic party and the nation. Hindsight will be too late. Democratic party - WAKE UP!! Secondly, hating the Clintons is no excuse to derail the country even further. Put your personal differences aside and do what's best for the country. It may be your last chance, at least for another 4-8 years. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23006771/?GT1=10856.

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RGO, California — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:01:05 GMT

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Geoff in Brooklyn — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:02:25 GMT

I note that it is totally WRONG for anyone in the media to start suddenly reporting super delegate totals. All along the totals have been based on delegates won by the voting. Obama has been a bit ahead since Iowa, and he has EXTENDED his lead every voting day since. Tie in NH, win in NV, win in SC, overall win on super tuesday. Ultimately the superdelegates will have to follow the voting trend. Thus, the number of delegates won should be reported, ESPCIALLY since that has been what is reported to date, and it is unfair to suddenly shift. Shifting would give the impression Clinton gained on super tues. But in fact she LOST ground (though just a tiny bit).

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Randy W — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:02:47 GMT

I am a white lifelong Republican that will change parties to vote for Obama as our President. I would be proud to tell the world this is our leader. Hopefully the people of the Democratic party will close this nomination in his favor. Clinton will divide not only her party but the nation as well if nominated.

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Pat Huntington NY — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:02:52 GMT

Lynette, NYC, I agree with your position. I think that whichever candidate wins the most "pledged" delegates by the end of the primaries [forget about super delegates], then the other candidate should concede the nomination at the point so as to avoid a bitter fight at the convention. The Dems need to come across as united as possible for as long as possible to counter what will happen with the repukes, who will have their established nominee within a matter of a month or so.

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Lynne, Little Rock, AR — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:02:54 GMT

Hillary's win in Massachussetts and California sends a message. People hate the Kennedy's and old John Kerry too. Oprah did no good either for Obama in California so she needs to keep her fat ass back in Chicago.

The country saw the weakness of Obama's candidacy so HIllary won the states that matter and almost won Missouri, she gets the same amount of delegates from that state or maybe like Nevada a little more.

She's absolutely great and she beat the establishment too, She and her husband President Clinton.
She will be wonderful for our country such a strong lady, Congratulations Senator Clinton.

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JohnnyU, WA State — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:04:44 GMT

I agree with jaycee & also with RobK,
We have the opportunity before us to elect a leader of truly great stature in Barack.
So many things need to be changed in our great country. We need a change in the foreign policy that CREATED the situation in Iraq. Do you know that Hillary has taken more money from the "military-industrial complex" than ANY other candidate. Are you SURE you trust her to change things?
If McCain gets elected, where are we getting the money & the personel to fight his warS??
Are you sure Hillary would be much different??

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Parisa, CA — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:05:51 GMT

Hillary CAN win, but only when all the negativity stops about her not being able to win in the general election. That's just spin.

And as someone who has watched every single one of Obama's and Clinton's debates/speeches, I agree that Obama makes a convincing argument. Some of the things he has said gave me the chills. But Clinton is "tied" with him WITHOUT endorsements from Oprah, the Kennedy clan, or half of Hollywood. I don't think how he's winning this is right.

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Hillary 2008, 20012! — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:10:17 GMT

Hillary's wins were spectacular. She beat Obama in CA despite his Hollywood endorsements, she beat Obama in MA despite the Kennedy endorsements, and she beat Obama in NY by a wide margin despite his attempt to beat her on her own turf. Yes, Obama may have won more states than Hillary, but she won more delegates, and the states Obama won in, for the most part, were states with high black dem. voters. But for the black vote, Obama would not be news anymore.

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Gunn — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:11:55 GMT

In CA, she won because it seems like name recognition is what matters to most Hispanics, not a desire for change. I guess they don't mind seeing the usual poisonous atmosphere of Washington. if they help elect Hillary this primary season, it is no doubt she will lose as demonstrated by her wins in overwhelmingly liberal states and Obama's in overwhelmingly red states. This will certainly help McCain, who I doubt can address the immigration issue and instead end up making a compromise to please conservatives, who may be happy to have all the illegals in this country thrown into chaos. I hope the ultimate victor will be either Hillary in November (which is unlikely) or Obama this nominating season and in November.

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Colleen, Ithaca, NY — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:13:06 GMT

"Change will not come if we wait for some other person or if we wait for some other time... We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek"

- Barack Obama, Feb 5, 2008

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Sander, Zoetermeer, somewhere between the 52nd and 70th state — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:13:46 GMT

I think a dragged out race could help the Democrats, as long as they keep it positive. If the republican nomination is finally settled in a month or so and the Democrats are still going then they will have the stage for themselves. They all ready seem to take more attention, but this scenario could really be an advantage for them going in to November. They have the money. So I say keep it up to June, Let Montana be the decisive state.

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Ron, TX — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:13:57 GMT

Barack Obama: Ready to WIN ON DAY ZERO! Let's put those RED STATES into play fellow democrats! Obama won -10- red states, Hillary only won -4-. OPEN YOUR EYES AMERICA!

http://washingtontimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080206/NATION/476091143/1001
"The senator from Arizona beats the senator from New York in 14 of 17 head-to-head polls taken since Dec. 6, but he wins just five of 17 against the senator from Illinois over the same period. Analysts say Mrs. Clinton is so divisive that she would drive moderates and some independents to Mr. McCain. Mr. Obama, conversely, could draw from the pool of supporters who have delivered wins to Mr. McCain in a host of presidential primaries
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TEC-spring-TX — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:16:37 GMT

Thanks to First read we all can express our free and independent thoughts. Thanks first read for being here for all people with different opinions and affiliations.
Also thanks to all who voted in Super Tuesday especially those who voted for their candidate despite all of the rhetoric written at first read and those awful on air pundits that asked you to give your vote to their candidate, because your candidate was not liberal or not conservative enough to win the nomination. Every citizen has the right to vote and express his or her desire for this country’s leadership, even if it is to vote for a Ralph Nader or some other minor candidate.

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Marbw — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:17:40 GMT

If you look at predictions prior to about a week ago, Hillary Clinton led most if not all of the states. CA, NY, MA were always hers to lose. Barack Obama was below 20% in Massachusetts, yet ends up winning about 41% of that state's vote. CA looks like it might end up being a 10% spread(for HRC) even though Barack Obama was so far behind a few weeks ago. He has improved his numbers amongst whites(men and women). His Latino #s have gone up. For someone who came from nowhere, Barack Obama has taken on a former first lady(wife of a popular ex-prez) and impressed me. HE WON IDAHO, ALASKA, AND UTAH FOR PETE'S SAKE(WHO WOULD HAVE THUNK IT).

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Bethany, Chicago, IL — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:20:21 GMT

GO OBAMA!

He's the only hope for the Dems in Nov.

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$hillary$ not4America — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:20:36 GMT

Democrats in turmoil!!! Clinton gets the "crack" vote. Dems say brokered convention is on the horizon. Democrats frustrated with Clinton. Obama takes more delegates

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David - MO — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:21:09 GMT

Obama has more legislative experience than Hillary! Hillary spent more time as lawyer in a large law firm than anything else then being a good wife to a Govenor and President being on boards for him. She does not have the experence to be President nor the ability to control Bill if they are back in the White House.

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bobdole, seattle wa — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:22:15 GMT

i don't see any way that clinton can win in november - she is the most effective uniter in the country, unfortunately she unites republicans and leaves 50% of the democrats indifferent. she will be lucky to get 2 or 3 republican votes nationwide and would do well to get 30% of indepenents against mccain. so unless democrats turn out en massse and republicans stay home she will be creamed. in addition she will face a constant resistance from the senate republicans and liebermans - think of a four year long filibuster.

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Billy, Normal, IL — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:28:12 GMT

You'll find it reported soon that it was EARLY VOTING that caused the Obama losses in California, Mass, and Arizona in particular. These votes were mostly sent in before Obama's surge.

In California and Arizona, it's astounding how close Obama got considering how many early votes were cast!

Someone report that. Give us the numbers who voted early in comparison to those cast yesterday. You'll see an amazing story of how well Obama did on Super Tuesday.

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CitizenJ — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:29:28 GMT

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Lynne, LR, AR — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:31:17 GMT

The white lady Arizona Governor did not do Obama much good either nor did that Stupid Claire McKaskill from Mo., Were it not for all of the African Americans in St. Louis he would not have won MO. He only won by 1 point so virtually he tied, in fact Clinton may get more delagates than he does from MO. Obama really is no different than Jesse Jackson when he ran in 1984 and 1988 -
His lack of experience and Muslim ties plus the Louis Farrakhan,nation of Islam who Obama's pastor Jeremiah Wright supports, Rezco and the present votes are just a few of the issues to be very concerned about him.
America is not that stupid , well you know young people 18 years old are that stupid, not just about him but many things. They have just graduated high school and therein lies a lot of his support.

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J, OH — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:32:15 GMT

By losing the two biggest and most diverse states in the nation (in a big way), it appears that Mr. Obama might have some major problems in the general election. ..Basically a vote for Obama is a vote for McCain in Nov.
RGO, California (Sent Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:01 AM)

You know very well that is a load of spin. Of course she won her OWN state of NY, not by as much as she should have though.

As for California... you know very well that millions of mail in ballots went out long ago when she had a massive lead. Yet if you look at the numbers already reported, project out each precinct to 100% based on the current distribution (meaning no one gains or loses any ground) then you have:

Hillary Clinton: 2,162,719 - 55%
Barack Obama: 1,739,126 - 45%
John Edwards: 178,750 - 5%

Considering how far back he was just 2 weeks ago, he made up a TON of ground to counter the mail in ballots.

And..

“There is no doubt … we hope and pray every night to run against Hillary Clinton,” - Ari Fleischer, on CNN last night.

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Pacheck. Huntington Beach, Ca. — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:35:35 GMT

How weird the psudo-intellectuals spout their analysis of what we all just saw with our own eyes. You would think that listening to all the polls being wrong and all the armchair "experts" predicting end results based on fuzzy logic that they would go away. The bottomline is, listen to all, then vote your heart. Take responsibility for your own feelings. A vote for A is not a vote for B.

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Nashville_fan — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:41:10 GMT

I am really proud of all the support Senator Obama got on Super Tuesday! :)

Obama '08

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Michael, Portland — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:42:27 GMT

Every "Underdog" candidate(from either party)for the last 50 years has used "Change" as their mantra, hoping that the ill-informed and mis-informed, idiotic Amercian Public would buy into it. If you want to talk about college and grad school accomplishments as the criteria for being ready for the presidency, it's hard to beat Hillary's record at Georgetown and Yale Law School. The truth is, Obama has not laid out one specific plan as to how he is going to, truly, IMPLEMENT his "Grand Touchy/Feely" philosophy; the reason being is that he knows he can't deliver. He didn't deliver as an Illinois Legislator, he hasn't delivered as a two-year senator, and he won't deliver as President. The thought of him even being in office scares me more than BUSH!!! However, nobody wants to say things like this for fear of being labelled a racist(which I am the farthest thing from, by the way, as I was involved in the civil rights movement as a young person in the 60's and I'm still a human rights activist). One more thing. I am appalled at how MSNBC, in particular, is so overt in their Pro-Obama stance. I mean, they might as well be his own personal electronic media campaign team. It's ridiculous and they put it right in our faces. WAKE UP AMERICA! I am also shocked at people like Chris Matthews, who was around and in his formative years when the true political giants like the Kennedy's and King were among us. Anyone his age or mine(50's)that thinks that Obama even comes close to what those great leaders represented, either in rhetoric or action, is completely delusional. Hillary is the right person for the job. She is battle-tested, articulate, and compassionate, but tough when she needs to be. So, WAKE UP AMERICA, and stop "THE BEAST" (the 24-hour news machine) from influencing you because they feel they need a provocative story that they can endlessly spin to you.

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Down but not Out — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:43:13 GMT

A vote for Hillary is a vote for McCain. If Hillary wins the nomination the Republicans will win the general election. No more dynasties!

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RENEA, MI — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:44:01 GMT

HILLARY IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH WASHINGTON!HILLARY IS THE QUEEN OF EARMARKS IN RETURN FOR CAMPAIGN DONATIONS.HILLARY THINKS LOBBYIST ARE A GOOD THING! THE BIG MONEY THAT COMES HER AND BILL,S WAY FROM WALL STREET. HILLARY WILL NOT CHANGE A THING ABOUT THE WAY WASHINGTON CONDUCTS ITSELF. HILLARY IS PART OF THE PROBLEM NOT PART OF THE SOLUTION!

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Ann, Des Moines, IA — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:44:04 GMT

GO BILLARY!! As a Republican, I totally agree with Ari Fleicher - White Water, Pardongate, Travelgate, Filegate, Vince Foster, Lincoln bedroomgate, "I never had sex with that woman" (Talk about a fairy tale!!!), etc. etc. Hilary makes claims that she was involved in EVERY aspect of Bill Clinton's presidential terms - BRING IT ON!! We're gonna have a field day.

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jdr — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:45:48 GMT

So it is the uneducated, seniors, hispanics and women that gravitate to the Clinton camp most. She panders, lies, spins and manufactures what they need to hear to keep them rounded up. However, a movement is alive and well. For the duration of this long campaign Obama was behind by double digits. Imagine where Obama is compared to where most thought he'd be in December. Of course he has momentum. And with time the states coming up will be on his side. They will have an vote that is more grounded and rational. We know that voters, when better educated, support Obama.
(For an example of Hillary's lying tactics google Lorna Brett Howard and see why she switched from Hillary to Barack.)

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Lu — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:46:04 GMT

To those who say Hillary's big states wins were decisive I would point out that the general consensus is that Obama will still get slightly more delegates primarily because his two big state wins, Illinois and Georgia, were by much bigger margins. So in spite of getting California and NY, Clinton's margin of victory in the popular vote was only .03%.

The Dems are in for a long ride.

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Eddie, NJ — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:48:10 GMT

The thing that impresses me about Hillary Clinton is that she stands on her own. That's the biggest news for me. For the past 2 weeks, Barak Obama has received large endorsements (ie. Kennedys, Kerry, Oprah, Hollywood stars) and they've campaigned for him. The media has covered it well and it's given Obama "a lot" of exposure.

Then there is just Hillary campaigning on her own with her husband and no big name endorsement campaigning for her. She stands on her own and delivers. What strength! It's the type of thing I admire about her. She doesn't need a gang to back her up.

With all that said, she won the big states. All those endorsements did not deliver for Obama. The most embarrassing of them all is Massachusetts. Wow! The governor, 2 state senators and the Kennedy name could not deliver the state? Please spare me the spin of how she led in polls. Obama was endorsed for over a week, enough time to turn the state over to him.

Finally, the argument of red states and blue states. I remember Joe and some others last night picking on McCain because he won "blue states", states that he most likely will not be able to deliver in November. Can Obama and his supporters not say the same about the "red states" he won? Can he as John McCain deliver these states that are not considered swing states? I think not. Do I think Hillary could deliver “red states”? No, I don’t. So please spare us the baseless points about Obama and McCain making swing states of solid red and blue states.

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Electoral Votes favor Hillary — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:48:25 GMT

Obama can not even win the blue states on his own. What does that tell us? Red states are red for some reason, they have more Republicans. They are not turning out because they are confused right now. Come election day, electoral votes will take away the red states.

But without Hillary, we can not win the Blue States. If you see the map of how states are divided , Hillary won all the states we as Democrats win. It is essenstial to have a following in those states or we will make one of those a tossup and then lose electoral votes and white house.

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David, Ocala, Florida — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:51:43 GMT

By moving into first place in the delegate count (plus super delegates), Clinton won a minor victory; but winning the battle doesn't win the war. Obama picked up numerous small States that Clinton did not campaign in, and he also managed to win razor thin victories in MO and CT. His support seems to have peaked, showing the same strength over the past several weeks. The good news for him is this support appears on par with Clinton, and he's raising more money. The bad news for him is that his extra cash won't really help since there is no more "Super" any-day. When WA, NE, and LA caucus, both candidates will have enough money and then some. When VA, MD, and DC poll, that's flat out one single television region. So Obama's money advantage came a week too late. Still, he won't complain. Obama NEEDS to do well the next few weeks, because Clinton's firewall of Texas and its large hispanic vote looms a month away, and Obama is not doing well at all with that voting block.

For the republicans, their system is set up to crush the minority vote. Thus, even if McCain won CA by 1%, he still wins everything. Majority rules supreme. Yet, despite the winner-take-all system, Romney leaves the day with 200+ delegates and Huckabee with close to the same amount. There is DEEP division in the Republican party considering that their primary was still split. It will be interesting to see how much traction Huckabee gains now. If conservatives now back Huckabee as a viable contender, McCain may stumble. And if neither pick up 50%, Romney becomes a major power broker.

As for tone, the democrats like both their candidates. If the debates stay civil (and they show every intention of adhering to that idea), then consolidation will be immediate once a winner is declared, even if it was only with 51% of the vote. With the republicans, things are much more rancorous. While Huckabee has alligned himself with McCain to date, he may have thought VP would be nice. NOW, he may not be so nice as he is widely percieved (suddenly) as the real conservative option. And Romney hates both of them. Things have the potential of getting ugly here, much more so than on the democrat side.

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Lyn, MD — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:53:58 GMT

I'm not so sure that the Kennedy's or "Oprah" didn't help. Obama was down 20+ points in 20 states and had a little more than a week to turn it around. As Hillary loves to say she's been out there for ever. This guy won the majority of those states in which he had no name recognition over an institution. The closer the final total the more delegates you get.

BTW Obama won by 33& in Il, Hillary won in NY by only 17%. Any democrat will carry NY CA MA and NJ in the GE but who can make middle America competitive. He is picking up Lation votes, she is losing AA votes (big time) Who is a better candidate in the GE

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Nedly, Cleveland, Ohio — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:54:21 GMT

I agree with jaycee, RobK and JohnnyU.
Voting for Hillary is voting for John McCain. But even if she were to win in the general election, how different than McCain is she on the Iraqi war? How different than McCain is she on the Next War, the Iran war? She already voted to authorize the Iran war, and so did McCain.

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Danny — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:56:22 GMT

Colleen, that quote was from Bill Clinton in 92. Look it up.

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j fl — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:57:59 GMT

All this blathering about nothing. The Clintons will be in the White House again and if she chooses Obama as her running mate, he will then have his time in the spotlight. He has not yet paid his dues. OLDER folks know what this means.

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MA voter — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:58:50 GMT

San Francisco Voter: since when is winning not winning? I am not sure what your point is that the reason she won is the gap of Latinos and Asians - she won.

I am not sure anyone is trumpeting NY - but I do think that MA, CA, and NJ were big wins for her as she was starting to be counted out by the press. The wins in those sates (particulary in MA with 2 senators and a governor endorsing Obama) were big.

Who cares that they will be Dem wins in November. Obama's wins in Red states won't turn to Dem wins in November no matter who the nominee is.

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Mark S, NC — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 15:58:55 GMT

"Yes, Obama may have won more states than Hillary, but she won more delegates, and the states Obama won in, for the most part, were states with high black dem. voters. But for the black vote, Obama would not be news anymore."

Alaska. Connecticut. Colorado. Idaho. Iowa. Kansas. Minnesota. North Dakota. Utah. Perhaps New Mexico. Are you serious?

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Phred, NH — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:03:54 GMT

Well now, this statistical dead heat ought to get things fired up as the process moves along. Do the candidates remain pleasant and cordial? Do they attack each other like pit vipers? We shall see, as a nation we shall see...

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ny reality — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:03:58 GMT

Hillary Clinton’s been accused of a lot of things, but being stupid isn’t usually among the list. Everyone makes some mistakes, it’s only making the same mistake twice that’s really stupid. I think Hillary learned her lesson about going negative on race in South Carolina. Her slide stopped when she stopped doing that and I think she realizes that. So whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee, I really don’t think the Democratic Party is going to be broken in two by it. But for all of you who were listening to the Republican pundits praying for Hillary to run against John McCain because they think she’s so easy to beat, I have to remind you that the Democrats were praying for Ronald Reagan to win the nomination in his day because they thought the same thing. Be careful what you wish for. And for all of you who feel that the independents will run to John McCain away from Hillary if Obama is not the nominee, I have two sentences for you - direct quotes from John McCain: “We will be in Iraq for 100 years.” And: “My friends, there will be more wars and more wars and more wars.” Yeah, that sounds like a real winning argument for independents and crossover Democrats to me.

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ny reality — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:04:51 GMT

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Zak — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:05:25 GMT

Obama has no chance to win the general election in November 08, McCain and the GOP will simply destroy him by taking on his record as a drug user and they will present him as weak on national defense and security.
I believe Hillary is the best choice for the Democrats, she's the one who is most prepared to face McCain and his GOP machine, she's the one who can make the difference and win the general election on November 08.

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Gary — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:09:52 GMT

Hilary and Clinton both served their terms in the white house. Should she become president it will be like electing Bill Clinton for a third term. It is time to bring a change, new face, new constituents. Let's show to the world that we are not as divided as we may appear to be.

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Gary, NY, NY — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:15:20 GMT

We need to unite as Americans. The time has come to show the world that we can get along. Obama is a great candidate for president. He will be the president for every body not just one particular group.

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Kathy, Middle of Idaho — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:15:34 GMT

If I hear one more comment about Obama's lack of experience, I'll probably scream! He has as much experience as John Kennedy had. What on earth was George Bush's experience? Failed business person. He couldn't even make a profit in OIL!! Hilary has no more experience than Obama. He's bright and he's inclusive. He doesn't scold, he seeks to bring people together without blame. Obama IS a rock star. I met John Kennedy when I was 12 years old, Obama radiates the same power and charisma.

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Elden, Ft. Lauderdale, FL. — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:16:06 GMT

I was amazed reading some of the commentary on this page with respect to Obama winning in red states. That's precisely the point, he is only winning in states where the democrats have basically never won and will not win in a general election. Obama is played up by the media because they love a story, but Bill Clinton is right to elect Obama is a roll of the dice, we know absolutely nothing about this guy accept that he has the most liberal voting record so far in the senate! By the way I am black man!

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Ann, Des Moines, IA — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:16:40 GMT

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J. Merle Stanley, Westchester, NY — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:18:38 GMT

Super Tuesday PROVES Hillary's electability!
She won in N.Y. and N.J. in spite of DeNiro's endorsement of Obama at a ralley in Jersey two days ago; she won in Massachusetts despite Ted Kennedy's and John Kerry's endorsements up there; she won Arizona even though Governor Napolitano endorsed Obama; and, she won big in California in defiance of Maria Shriver's support for Obama, and opposition from Oprah's Hollywood crowd.
Furthermore, we keep hearing from the media about how Obama's momentum is gaining and how he's going to knock her out.
But, it never happens.
Hillary is "The Comeback Kid II." She has shown that she can win, even when the establishment of the Democratic Party comes out against her in force.
Imagine what she could do as The Democratic Candidate in a general election with that establishment behind her.
Obama is a slick talker.
But, if he couldn't apply the knockout punch in Mass. and Ca., after the endorsements of Ted Kennedy, Caroline Kennedy, John Kerry, Maria Shiver, Robert DeNiro, and Oprah's Hollywood 'posse,' then he would never be able to win a general election.
Last night, Hillary showed us what she can do. She's the best, most electable candidate The Democratic Party has.
Let's unite behind her, for the good of our country, and our party!

HILLARY FOR PRESIDENT 2008!
"Change is the residue of design, and design is the by-product of experience."

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cris, Fort Worth Texas — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:20:00 GMT

I want to see numbers regarding votes cast Dem vs Rep. I know not all that voted for Hillary woudl vote for Obama or vice versa....and the same is true on the Repub side. But anyone know where to find stats like that.

and again....so excited to have a voice. Come on Texas primary!!

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Campdog — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:30:16 GMT

The concept of red or blue state doesn't mean the same thing in a primary election as it does in a general. So what if a republican does well in a blue state...this just means that he got more votes from one group of republicans than he did another....it has nothing to do with how the entire state will vote in a general election.

Clinton is not at all liked by the right but she does have a chance with those centrist republicans that want a well planned withdrawal from Iraq as well as a strong defense. In addition, conservative democrats and liberal republicans both want a real action plan for economic growth.

Let's not forget that there will be a ticket that includes bot Pres. and VP candidates and this nomination process may be as much to form a ticket as it is to determine who will be the presidential candidate.

I see polling information re: how each candidate would fare in a head on competition but I would be interested in knowing how an Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama ticket would compete against any Republican ticket.

We are passionate about our candidates now but in the end we need to make some choices and form the ticket that will win back the White House and give us the power in the senate and house to enact the reforms that both of our candidates support.

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Ron Hyde, Springfield IL — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:32:21 GMT

The fix is in though with the Super Delegates. Hillary's had those in her back pocket forever so Barack doesn't stand a chance. Barack will have the peoples vote, but not the Democratic Machine vote. Nothing like disenfranchising the people from who they really want elected.

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JT, Nashville, TN — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:34:23 GMT

To all of you who are trumpeting the fact that Barack won in many of the "red" states:

Usually, a democrat will with the Democratic primary in a "red" state. It says absolutely nothing about the general election. Also, in those red states, those were open primaries or caucuses. I would wager that lots of Republicans voted in Alaska, Utah, North Dakota, Colorado, etc., many Republicans showed up to vote for Obama as he is the easiest target for the McCain machine to come. And if we're talking about red state wins, let's look at Oklahoma, Tennessee, Florida, Nevada, Arizona. With all his surging momentum, Obama should have done much better than he did even though it's still basically a tie. But Hillary plowed through Mass., Calif., TN, OK, AZ and split the delegates in Missouri and New Mexico. She has decided advantages in Ohio, Texas and Pennsylvania - 3 of the biggest prizes left. And should the DNC decide to allow Michigan and Florida their delegates back, then she surges way forward as those were huge wins for her.

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SN — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:38:11 GMT

Is there any information regarding the Decline-to-State (unaffiliated) vote in Los Angeles County. Those voters had to indicate Democratic on their ballots and also vote for their particular candidate. From my understanding, if they neglected to mark Democratic on their ballots, then those ballots would not be counted toward the Presidential Primary. I only ask because there could be a significant amount of votes that otherwise could have gone toward Senator Obama but now won't be counted. Anyone have more info on the matter? Just thought I'd share.

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Mark S, NC — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:41:15 GMT

There are several comments on this board regarding Obama's wins in "red states" and how he will obviously not be able to transfer that into wins in those states in November.

Au contraire. This is exactly the point.

What Obama has been saying all along, and what the Clinton supporters are too short-sighted to get, is that we have the potential in this election to break out of the red-blue divide we've been in for the last 30 years. Can he win Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, Alabama in the general? Probably not. Could he win Colorado, Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Missouri, Arizona, Montana, Virginia, North Carolina--maybe even Mississippi? Quite possibly, if he continues to build the cross-party coalitions he's been very successful at building thus far in this election. Could Hillary win those? Maybe a few, maybe not. This is what we mean when we speak of "transformational". Obama is, Hillary is not.

On the other side: if Hillary is nominated, and McCain is the nominee, she will (guaranteed) lose every current red state with the possible exception of Arkansas. And she will be fighting McCain on Blue State turf (New Jersey, Delaware, New Hampshire, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Oregon).

Even Tom Brokaw said on the air last night that we can't judge this election by past models. It's time for new models. It's time for Obama.

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JD, Pittsburgh, PA — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:45:26 GMT

It is so interesting to see the primaries unfold. Super Tuesday had some interesting twists that will now play out in the coming months. I foresee both primaries getting ugly. On the Republican side the battle lines have already been drawn between the far right conservatives and McCain as the front-runner. On the Democratic side the Super Tuesday contrast between the 4-1 African American vote and a somewhat more balanced white vote for the candidates foreshadows the race issue resurfacing in a big way. The biased media commentators, and I mean all of them, are loving the way it’s playing out.

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ny reality — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:45:43 GMT

For everyone who's convinced that the high turnout is only due to Obama's running, let me remind you that Democratic turnout has been more than double Republican,and considerably higher than either party from 2004. While this might be due in small margin to the new kid on the block, did you ever think it's simply that after seven years of Republican lunacy, that Democrats are just energized in general and will not fail to show up in November no matter who the nominee is? I just give this as a reminder for everyone who is frightened of a fractured Democratic party and are voting based on this probably baseless, warrantless fear. And for everyone who believes that John McCain would be unbeatable because of all of the independents and crossover Democrats, unless Barack is the nominee, I give you two sentences which are direct quotes from John McCain which should be played on TV over and over again before the election: "We will be in Iraq for 100 years." AND: "My friends, there will be more wars... and more wars ...and more wars.

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bob guinto, Boston Ma. — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:55:38 GMT

I think it is time for the party activist to realize what it takes to win. But I think the fact that voters who have not participated in the past are doing so in huge numbers should be paid closer attention to. One youth put four cartoons to together to address four main areas.

The presidential candidates are asking each of us to consider who will make the greatest impact. Will Obama, Clinton, Romney or McCain be your voice to declare war on your most important issue?

When trying to market or promote your brand does Google give you a fair shake?

The federal government is giving billions to not grow food and people cannot feed their families.
Foreclosure, has been a real drain on everyones credit access, the investors do not want the homes. If the owner is found and wants to auction the house under foreclosure instead of negotiating with the home ownerr, they are not prevented from bidding to buy your home for its true value.
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ZekeRobb, East Lansing, Michigan — Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:58:10 GMT

I have seen some comments about Hillary being able to stand up to the republican machine and some express doubt that Obama can. First of all, the Republican attack machine was built on attacking the Clinton's. They are very comfortable doing so and will NEVER run out of new ammunition. Second, the attack machine only garners support and credibility when the subjects like Clinton, Kerry, Pelosi, etc. have failed to prove their integrity on critical progressive issues like war, diplomacy, poverty, and so on. People have gotten the sense from these Democrats that they are out of touch with the common folks that they fight for--that they are rich but fight for the poor; that they want to pull out of Iraq, but they voted to authorize the invasion. This argument can NOT be made about Obama. He fought on the streets, opposed the war, and he doesn't come from an elite family or household. He is a self-made progressive who has consistently sacrificed his private interests for his view of the public good. This is about electability and if democrats want to win, we have to nominate someone who can expose the Republican attack machine for what it is--a senseless and partisan defender of the status-quo. If Hillary turns up the heat as she promises, all that it will do is give unnecessary credibility to the Republican attack machine that is predicated entirely upon a Clintonian Democrat on the ticket. If we redraw the map, we win. Obama is the only one who turns out unprecedented numbers of young people, independents, first time voters, African-Americans, and disaffected Republicans. Clinton will turn out the same old democrats from the same old states.